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Old 09-01-2004, 04:19 PM   #1
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Why can't Sprint get phones like this?

Here is a new phone from T-Mobile that does everything I'm looking for in a phone, but is currently only made for T-Mobile. Sprint reps have no idea when a similar product will be available.

New HP iPac PDA with wireless, bluetooth, camera, SD slot . . . .
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Old 09-01-2004, 04:27 PM   #2
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the smartarse in me will say because it's GSM

the realist in me will say "someday soon"
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I have to agree that i would get that phone if it was available for Sprint. It has built in Wi-Fi which makes me want it hands down. Forget Bluetooth. I'm around Wireless networks so much that Wi-Fi capability would come in handy. Not only that but its not the size of a football. It's actually smaller than the treo600 barely which is the other thing that would make me buy it.
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Because you can't scratch the finish off with your fingernail! Otherwise why would Sprint want it?
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HP 6315 and wifi

That is kinda cool phone; I played around with it the night while taking a bath. The wifi is a ok. I did not try the the bluetooth. Returned the phone because they do not have service in Pecos, TX and they will not allow their sim card to roam on the Cingular network. So I didn't try the phone out too much. I could use the phone a mile from my house. But the pocket pc operating system is more difficult than Palm's I have a lot of Palms (now the Treo and I have decided to buy the new Treo 650 for Cingular and proably the 650 for my Sprint account. They really did their homework on that phone with the exception of wifi.

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I have to agree that i would get that phone if it was available for Sprint. It has built in Wi-Fi which makes me want it hands down. Forget Bluetooth. I'm around Wireless networks so much that Wi-Fi capability would come in handy. Not only that but its not the size of a football. It's actually smaller than the treo600 barely which is the other thing that would make me buy it.
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Here is a new phone from T-Mobile that does everything I'm looking for in a phone, but is currently only made for T-Mobile. Sprint reps have no idea when a similar product will be available.

New HP iPac PDA with wireless, bluetooth, camera, SD slot . . . .

They do it's called the 2032 but it's a little bit bigger.
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....Not only that but its not the size of a football. It's actually smaller than the treo600 barely which is the other thing that would make me buy it.
Not so. It's substantially longer and wider (about same thickness). Not dissing it (very interesting design) but I just can't see myself holding it up to my ear in public (I was embarrased by the old Treo 300 for the same reason). The Treo 600 at least is acceptable in that regard.
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Yeah I was really looking forward to this device..... but it is bigger than the 600 I think.... I don't like Palm but that pda/phone is much better or will be with the 650. Now the Daxian is a whole different story though!
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Not so. It's substantially longer and wider (about same thickness). Not dissing it (very interesting design) but I just can't see myself holding it up to my ear in public (I was embarrased by the old Treo 300 for the same reason). The Treo 600 at least is acceptable in that regard.
If you go by the volume, its just as small, but overall we're both right, you more than me.
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It would have been really cool if they would have taken a page from Danger with their sidekick and made it so the keyboard was attached and just rotated from a position above the screen to the active position. It would also have provided partial screen protection.
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The G1000 is a direct comparison to this phone, though it's bigger of course because the keyboard isn't detachable. I just talked my brother into buying the HP unit and played with it, it's a nice unit but kinda slow, the proc is less than 200 mhz and isn't an Intel PXA, it's designed for battery life instead of performance. The wifi and bluetooth work well enough but I don't really care about Bluetooth and my G1000 works just fine with a Socket Wifi SDIO card. The G1000 has been out for well over a year and has better performance than the HP device and many of it's features, it shows how ahead of the game Sprint was. Just wait for the Daxian to come out either this month or next on Sprint, it's not much bigger than that HP unit but has an integrated keyboard that is revealed by sliding up the screen, plus it's got the more powerful processor...
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It would have been really cool if they would have taken a page from Danger with their sidekick and made it so the keyboard was attached and just rotated from a position above the screen to the active position. It would also have provided partial screen protection.
The new Daxian unit is very similar, the screen slides UP to reveal the keyboard!
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Not so. It's substantially longer and wider (about same thickness). Not dissing it (very interesting design) but I just can't see myself holding it up to my ear in public (I was embarrased by the old Treo 300 for the same reason). The Treo 600 at least is acceptable in that regard.
If its got bluetooth - why would you hold it to your ear at all ?

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If its got bluetooth - why would you hold it to your ear at all ?

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Well, I can't see myself carrying (much less wearing) the bluetooth headphone at all times. I just don't look good as the communications officer on Star Trek.
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I had a chance to use this phone as a loaner from T-Mobile who is trying to sell us a business plan.

I admit it is pretty cool. The Wi-Fi connection is great.

But only as long as you are connecting to an open access point. It was very flaky with any encryption - especially with Shared (versus Open) network authentication. Now I had it before it was even released, so maybe new drivers will be released, but as is, the Wi-Fi was very hit or miss.

But regardless, it sucks as a phone - unless you are using it with a headset. It is uncomfortable to hold and talk on and the screen automatically gets oily from (at least my) face. And, unless you keep the keyboard thingy attached (which makes it huge), there is no number pad so you have to use the on screen dial pad.

The camera is ok in bright light. In normal indoor conditions, the pictures are pretty grainy and dark.

Finally, the wireless internet access was close to useless. It may be that the GSM network in Baltimore is poor, but it would take forever to load anything even when it was showing ok to good signal strength.

I am much happier with my new Samsung i500.
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