[stads09]

Originally Posted by dnt

Have you even tried to connect it to your computer a do a #777 to dial out? I bet you it wont work UNLESS you have PAM on your account. It tries to connect but never happens. Probably some sort of account switch with the pam feature. If you can figure out how to get that problem solve I'll tell you how to "turn off" the nai on the fusic.

how do you disable NAI on the Fusic? Also, Ho wdo you find out what your "service code" is?

[r0fl]

Originally Posted by stads09

how do you disable NAI on the Fusic? Also, Ho wdo you find out what your "service code" is?

you can not disable the PAM NAI on any phone except samsungs. it is a samsung only menu option.

[stads09]

There has to be some way to use this phone as a modem without paying extra for PAM which i think is a rip off. I am already paying for vision...why should I have to pay $40 to use my phone as a modem when it costs the same thing to use a wireless access card. At least with the broadband card I can still make calls with my phone. When you are tethered you lose voice. Way to go Sprint, you make no sense. You would have to be a moron to pay for PAM given what I just said. They are seriously being "internet nazi's" here. Saying you have to buy PAM in addition to Vision in order to access the web via PC is the same thing as your internet carrier telling you you can use the internet but you can only use it with a laptop...if you want to use it with a Pocket PC, desktop, or tablet you will have to pay for another service plan. Please somebody figure out how to configure thsi FUSIC so we can once again use what we pay for.

[dm33]

Originally Posted by stads09

There has to be some way to use this phone as a modem without paying extra for PAM which i think is a rip off.

Although I certainly agree that prices should be lower... you might notice that Verizon charges $80/mo for equivalent service, and most other carriers charge similar prices or more commonly don't offer something of equivalent speed.

[rush2112]

Originally Posted by stads09

There has to be some way to use this phone as a modem without paying extra for PAM which i think is a rip off. I am already paying for vision...why should I have to pay $40 to use my phone as a modem when it costs the same thing to use a wireless access card. At least with the broadband card I can still make calls with my phone. When you are tethered you lose voice. Way to go Sprint, you make no sense. You would have to be a moron to pay for PAM given what I just said. They are seriously being "internet nazi's" here. Saying you have to buy PAM in addition to Vision in order to access the web via PC is the same thing as your internet carrier telling you you can use the internet but you can only use it with a laptop...if you want to use it with a Pocket PC, desktop, or tablet you will have to pay for another service plan. Please somebody figure out how to configure thsi FUSIC so we can once again use what we pay for.

Dude,

You are paying for data usage on a phone which doesn't require much bandwidth. But, when you want to use your computer to do all the things on the internet that you do at home, that requires alot more bandwidth and you have to pay for that. And the fact that you say that if you have an aircard you can still use your phone, remember that if you do this then you are paying 59.99 for the aircard then whatever your rate plan is for voice. It is cheaper to just pay the extra 40.00 for your phone to offer what you want. If you have to talk on the phone at the same time then purchase an aircard and be done with it. If you don't want to pay the extra for the PAM plan then what if Sprint offered you the capability to teather your computer with regular vision at no additional charge. It would take you all day to do whatever you wanted to do at that slow speed. Bellsouth offers DSL but at 3 price levels, which happen to relate to the amount of bandwidth you want. I don't expect them to give me the fastest option for 9.95 and you shouldn't expect Sprint to either. Bottom line, if you want the higher data rates you have to pay for them. There are phones that you can disable to make them work but those soon will be a thing of the past.

[stads09]

Originally Posted by rush2112

Dude,

You are paying for data usage on a phone which doesn't require much bandwidth. But, when you want to use your computer to do all the things on the internet that you do at home, that requires alot more bandwidth and you have to pay for that. And the fact that you say that if you have an aircard you can still use your phone, remember that if you do this then you are paying 59.99 for the aircard then whatever your rate plan is for voice. It is cheaper to just pay the extra 40.00 for your phone to offer what you want. If you have to talk on the phone at the same time then purchase an aircard and be done with it. If you don't want to pay the extra for the PAM plan then what if Sprint offered you the capability to teather your computer with regular vision at no additional charge. It would take you all day to do whatever you wanted to do at that slow speed. Bellsouth offers DSL but at 3 price levels, which happen to relate to the amount of bandwidth you want. I don't expect them to give me the fastest option for 9.95 and you shouldn't expect Sprint to either. Bottom line, if you want the higher data rates you have to pay for them. There are phones that you can disable to make them work but those soon will be a thing of the past.

I pay for UNLIMITED DATA. I will repeat. UNLIMITED DATA. Not bandwith. Some vision phones are capable of more bandwith than others. According to you those users who have phones with lower bandwiths should pay less and those with larger should pay more. The fact of the matter here is that I am paying for UNLIMITED DATA. That means that whether I download 300kb's of data per month or 300 GB's of data per month I will pay the same. Now of course with a larger bandwith you can download more amounts more quickly, however, let's remember that our phone is the modem here and that's how we are connecting to the internet...so how could we possibly have a larger bandwith if when we access the internet by vision or tethering we are doing so thru the same device, our phones. We will only get the bandwith the phone can support. And the air card is only $40, I talked to sprint. And trust me, it is not a thing of the past. These phones are mini computers. And any computer can be programmed accordingly to make it work as desired. There will always be someone who will figure it out. Thats just the way it is. The reason I won't pay for PAM has nothing to do with the price anyways. This is my opinion on PRINCIPAL alone. And I refuse to pay for something I already pay for. Those of you who like paying for your bills twice a month instead of once; I guess PAM is for you.

[rush2112]

Originally Posted by stads09

I pay for UNLIMITED DATA. I will repeat. UNLIMITED DATA. Not bandwith. Some vision phones are capable of more bandwith than others. According to you those users who have phones with lower bandwiths should pay less and those with larger should pay more. The fact of the matter here is that I am paying for UNLIMITED DATA. That means that whether I download 300kb's of data per month or 300 GB's of data per month I will pay the same. Now of course with a larger bandwith you can download more amounts more quickly, however, let's remember that our phone is the modem here and that's how we are connecting to the internet...so how could we possibly have a larger bandwith if when we access the internet by vision or tethering we are doing so thru the same device, our phones. We will only get the bandwith the phone can support. And the air card is only $40, I talked to sprint. And trust me, it is not a thing of the past. These phones are mini computers. And any computer can be programmed accordingly to make it work as desired. There will always be someone who will figure it out. Thats just the way it is. The reason I won't pay for PAM has nothing to do with the price anyways. This is my opinion on PRINCIPAL alone. And I refuse to pay for something I already pay for. Those of you who like paying for your bills twice a month instead of once; I guess PAM is for you.

1. Your unlimited data is only for Power Vision Apps on the phone, not teathering with computer..
2. Remember that vision was cheaper than power vision?
3. If you want more at faster speeds and want to use the computer then you have to pay more. Where in the Power Vision contract states that you get unlimited teathering to a computer? They are selling you Power Vision access to apps on the phone. Period.
4. Your 40.00 plan for an aircard won't give you your 300gb of data you so desire. It's 59.99.
5. Again, Sprint will make sure that in the future that Power Vision phones will all eventually not be able to disable NAI.
6. Why do you refuse to pay for faster service? 20.00 per month= phone apps. Add 40.00 unlimited data teathering with computer. 59.99 per month= use data card to get your unlimited data and still be able to talk on your phone. This is how it is, not only with Sprint but with the other carriers as well. If you don't think Sprint gives you the best option, go to T-Mobile or Cingular.

[Deval]

[stads09]

Originally Posted by rush2112

1. Your unlimited data is only for Power Vision Apps on the phone, not teathering with computer..
2. Remember that vision was cheaper than power vision?
3. If you want more at faster speeds and want to use the computer then you have to pay more. Where in the Power Vision contract states that you get unlimited teathering to a computer? They are selling you Power Vision access to apps on the phone. Period.
4. Your 40.00 plan for an aircard won't give you your 300gb of data you so desire. It's 59.99.
5. Again, Sprint will make sure that in the future that Power Vision phones will all eventually not be able to disable NAI.
6. Why do you refuse to pay for faster service? 20.00 per month= phone apps. Add 40.00 unlimited data teathering with computer. 59.99 per month= use data card to get your unlimited data and still be able to talk on your phone. This is how it is, not only with Sprint but with the other carriers as well. If you don't think Sprint gives you the best option, go to T-Mobile or Cingular.

First of all I really think you are being naive to think that Sprint will someday be able to eliminate teathering alltogether unless you have PAM. That is just ignorant I think. These phones are able to be altered in ways that Sprint(manufacturers)doesnt think the average user will be capable of...Second, what difference does it make if you use 300 gb of data per month with your phone or with teathering? 300gb is 300gb. Next, I WAS offered the air card for 40 per month. This discussion is moot because I know and you know that somebody will figure out how to do it and it will then spread. I just think it should be one combined service for lets say $30...If that was the case I would not be having this disussion...because that is a fair price...And again I am not willing to overpay on principal because this isnt even a feature that I use all that often, in other words I will still subscribe to internet for my home. A lot of peopel who use PAM use it as their primary internet connection.

[r0fl]

Originally Posted by stads09

First of all I really think you are being naive to think that Sprint will someday be able to eliminate teathering alltogether unless you have PAM. That is just ignorant I think. These phones are able to be altered in ways that Sprint(manufacturers)doesnt think the average user will be capable of...Second, what difference does it make if you use 300 gb of data per month with your phone or with teathering? 300gb is 300gb. Next, I WAS offered the air card for 40 per month. This discussion is moot because I know and you know that somebody will figure out how to do it and it will then spread. I just think it should be one combined service for lets say $30...If that was the case I would not be having this disussion...because that is a fair price...And again I am not willing to overpay on principal because this isnt even a feature that I use all that often, in other words I will still subscribe to internet for my home. A lot of peopel who use PAM use it as their primary internet connection.

so...you'd get combined service for $30...but not $40 (thats how much combined service is btw)

as for the difference between 300GB on your phone and 300GB on your computer...you will never achieve that amount of data usage in a month using vision from your phone.

you are just a greedy little customer

[stads09]

i wont acheive that amount on my cpu either. I am just using it as an example, not a literal amount. 300gb was for the sake of arguement. However, I do use about the same amount on my cpu as I do my phone. I watch about 2-3 hours of sprint tv live a day. I use my cpu to check my email once at night when i get home frm work and look at ebay for liek 20 minutes and thats about it. That is an average day for both. So please don't tell me that I download more on my cpu. I should clarify. The $25 vision package plus PAM for $30 would be fair. Again, it's only my opinion. You call me "greedy"? So you wouldnt rather pay for the service the way I described? If you did would you be greedy then too? I am just making a suggestion as to what I think "fair" is. Apparently you think the current offer is "fair". That is perfectly fine, I respect your opinion. I made my point. I dont have anything else to say about this.

[lukkypuppy]

Because of the amount "terabit" use (Not sure what they had called it) difference from the Internet on the phone compared to the use of the phone for the Laptop. You will need to add some $39.99 Sprint plan that allowes you to get online with your phone as a modem.
I have done bunches of research on this for the past month since I got my phone. Beause, I would LOVE to be able to use my laptop on the weekends at work. (NO "open wireless" anywhere around)
But I was recently told by a client at work, about some way you can pay this $30 something fee for a YEAR, that would bypass that sprint monthy fee and still allow you too connect your phone as a modem. I'm still working on this!

[JavaDog]

:S Just an idear, but would it be possible to almost proxy http requests through a java based program on the phone? if Opera Mini can pull http requests and it's a simple .jad couldn't you write one that forwarded it through the USB connection to the computer almost using your phone as a proxy, but not notifying sprint that it's not tethering? Since it'd be an application requesting data.

Soon it could be branched out into other requests (E-Mail, SSH, Etc...)

just an idea, not sure if it'd work or if you can even do that through USB, maybe bluetooth?

[jschurawlow]

Guys, as far as NAI goes on the fusic there's no way known as of yet to disable it, and I've tried several methods of trying to workaround (directly in the phone's programming).

Needless to say, if anybody figures out this one feel free to enlighten us. Quite a few of the phone's programmed setttings seem hard-set even to where if you modify it on qpst after soft reset the phone reverts back to original settings (this goes for other settings as well).

[monkeyninja]

Would it not be cheaper to add a new line of service on a phone that you know works as a modem. Add a line 9.99(12.70) Power Vision 15.00 =27.70+tax(30.00).And find someone to take over your old line. You can also swap #'s(keeping old #).?????