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desertfox
04-13-2006, 11:26 PM
When I am watching tv on my ORB.com; every 5 min a message with beep pop up on screen:
"Clip is aboput to time out. Press a key to continue playing the clip".
I wanna know if anybody know on how to shut down this pop up message.
It is annoying.
thank you. :bang:
Wirelessly posted (Yo! Peep Game!: Mozilla/4.0 (MobilePhone MM-9000/US/1.0) NetFront/3.1 MMP/2.0)
When I am watching tv on my ORB.com; every 5 min a message with beep pop up on screen:
"Clip is aboput to time out. Press a key to continue playing the clip".
I wanna know if anybody know on how to shut down this pop up message.
It is annoying.
thank you. :bang:
is it every five minutes? I thought it was every fifteen...
laursifer
04-14-2006, 11:16 AM
It seems to differ. So far, you can disable it on the A900, but not any other phone.
ready4URlink
04-22-2006, 07:54 PM
Yo, does anyone know how to deactive the five minute-limit timer while watching live tv?
-when you're watching a live show, say FOX news for example... if you don't press any keys for five minutes the phone beeps, vibrates and displays a message that your clip will end unless you press any key to continue...
-- I don't this happens when you watch a short clipping, versus Live TV.. haven't tested it on that aspect.
I know its in place in case I guess someone falls asleep or forgets its on TV and to prevent excessive un-monitored battery use it does that. But, trying to a watch an hour block gets annoying....if you have to keep "remembering" to press a button.
Any feedback,...gracias!!!
SmplyD
04-22-2006, 08:10 PM
Yes this is true. I have gotten that message a few times, but I usually don't watch my phone for the length of an entire program (Bill O'Reilly for example). I'm not sure how to disable it, but they should do something like deactivate that warning when the phone is plugged in or something.
ready4URlink
04-23-2006, 12:14 AM
haha, heck yea. That's the show I'm talking about. I work grave yard, so I glue my eyes to the tv. and I watch The O'Reilly Factor @ 1am, then I watch Your World with Neil Cavuto and then FOX & Friends. so.... uh yea? any ways to disable it?
Jonathanlc2005
04-23-2006, 12:30 AM
same here. i guess im not the only fox news fan.
anyone know how to disable that?
khefka
04-23-2006, 01:08 AM
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96276
That is for the a900, but I think some replies cover what you can do on other phones.
ready4URlink
04-23-2006, 02:45 AM
Hmm, I'm getting that we need our MSL codes to edit any options...and then Im gathering that this function is NOTavailable for the Sanyo 9G and only for the Blade. >:(
rnunez
04-23-2006, 11:38 AM
This was posted a while back and I saved a copy. Hope it works for you.
Media Time-Out "Press any key to continue" - No Longer a Problem!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
When streaming media to my phone (orb) on my a900, I would get this incredibly annoying message every five minutes or so of inactivity from my part, meaning I hadn't touched a button in 5 minutes which is frequent if I'm listening to tv, and not always keeping an eye on the screen. This would really drive me nuts so I called up *2 and asked for technical support and explained what was going on and the only resolution they had was to reset all my settings. This would not fix the problem.
I had searched on this forum and others for a fix to this and although I'm sure its been posted on here before, I for the life of me couldn't find it. After having given up on this and just accepted the fact that i couldn't listen to tv without constantly adjusting the volume, I went to change my buffer rate one day and noticed there was also an option to adjsut the multimedia time-out. This option like a few others are not visible from the view mode of ##DATA# only the edit mode. So I gave it a try and it Worked!
To get to to the 3G Data Prog (changing this options i list do not require your msl code)
*All of this is done at your own risk, I disclaim all responsibility for your phone, this worked for me, it should work for you but it may not, if you mess with options other than the ones i list, and it screws up your phone don't complain here.
1. dial ##DATA# (##3282#) when you press the last # it should bring you right into the Programming menu.
2. Select Multimedia, for me its option 6.
3. Select Multimedia Edit, for me its option 2.
4. Select Timeout, for me its option 4
The Time-out optins listed for me are
5 Minutes
10 Minutes
20 Minutes
No Time-out
5. Select the time-out you would like. (Of course I chose No Time-out)
6. After you've selected the timeout of your choice and hit menu/OK you can then just continue to hit back until you've exited the Programming Menu.
You're all Set, no more timeouts!
dbldwn02
04-23-2006, 12:26 PM
Has anyone tried this on a 7500? Just bought it and don't want to mess it up.
Ronkh
04-23-2006, 12:35 PM
9k asks for the msl number
if anybody decides to get their msl and try it, please let me know if it works
shaze
04-23-2006, 02:35 PM
Hi there,
I'm trying to use Orb, and have got the software and all the speed settings working; everything works awesome, all codecs etc. But no matter what I stream, it is interrupted or cancelled by something 2 minutes or so into whatever it is playing and returns to the last orb menu.
After searching I beleive this to be the fault of a programmable option of my series of phone called the MMTO (Multi-media Time Out) or something to that degree. I have even found out how to access both menus, but my MSU (Master Serial) only works for the phone reprogramming menu, but not the debug menu.
Going into Settings > Display > then pressing 0 prompts for a "Field Serv" code of some sort. All the tech's at Bell Canada have no idea what it is, or that it was even there. (And I was forwarded to Data Support and Engineering)
So I'm calling Samsung on Monday to see if it is a feature they control, and request my Field Serv code. But if anyone shares the same experiences, or if you use the same phone, but don't have my problem, please post in here. (I may have firmware 7?)
I must get this code, I am willing to offer money, bribes and sex to obtain it. Please message or email me if you know anything.
ready4URlink
04-23-2006, 03:31 PM
From what I've read, the 9000 doesnt have that option to reset the time out time, even if u have the MSL code.
ready4URlink
04-23-2006, 06:25 PM
I just called an Advanced Technical Support Tech... I had them scratching their heads on this one. "Unfortunately, the Sanyos does not have this option in the settings menu or on a ## code menu" She claims she talked to other techs there and they've heard of this issue, and only know of the Samsung handsets that have this option.
....so, should we throw in the towel? OR, will 9000 users prevail and come up with a solution??? Who knows... I hope.
Ronkh
04-23-2006, 06:41 PM
never give up........
never surrender...........
someone needs to get thier msl and find out for sure
w7excursion
04-23-2006, 07:26 PM
I only see Gateway, MCD Generator, and Buffersize in the Edit Multimedia. So which one is it? Im not sure and dont want to screw my phone up.
Ronkh
04-23-2006, 07:55 PM
I only see Gateway, MCD Generator, and Buffersize in the Edit Multimedia. So which one is it? Im not sure and dont want to screw my phone up.
dunno
wait for one of the techies to chk in
eclin
04-25-2006, 12:14 AM
Im having the same problem with Orb. :frustrate
The menu you are trying to get into won't help though thats the "Debug" Menu.
You need to get into the "3G Data Prog" menu by entering ##3882 "ok" button (works for Bell a920s)
just dial it from the main screen not from any menus.
Regardless A920s (Sprint or Bell) dont have a "multimedia time out" option in this menu.
It's been disabled or is somewhere else.
A900s do have this menu item available/enabled.
The lowest time out option on the A900 is 5 minutes, which means you can stream for 5 mins before being prompted to continue or it stops.
Im beginning to believe that Orb just wont work on Bell a920s because Bell has limited this type of streaming on their network. :mad:
You'll notice that all the so-called Channel Listing videos we can view in the Multimedia Player are no longer than 1:30 - 2:30 minutes anyways.
Bells version of Unlimited TV :laughing:
Hope im wrong and maybe some Gurus can shed some light on the problem. :kingofhil
Sonin66
04-25-2006, 12:31 AM
the a900's media time out can be completely turned off as to my understanding. but the a920's/a940's dont have this in either phones menu which is kind of weird. and to the op, i doubt if samsung will give you the field code for you phone
shaze
04-25-2006, 01:35 AM
I got the code, 192174 for anyone curious... And, I found out it was my ****ty router all along, Orb works perfectly on my A920 now hooray!
eclin
04-25-2006, 05:57 PM
Good news Shaze.
I've got a Linksys and ive got UPNP enabled.
Port 0554 is forwarded to my Orb computer too.
Still no joy!
So what did you set on your router to fix it?
shaze
04-25-2006, 06:18 PM
Well, I could always get Orb to work, even on my old D-link DI-524 router. (I had to disable UPNP on orb and frwd port 80) The problem I was having is that anything browsing streaming content through port 80 on got disconnected after about a couple minutes. (This happened to me before Orb as well, with my webcam on my site on port 80)
So I removed the router all together from the situation and *poof*, streaming worked perfectly. I have tried every possible setting, including adding a udpport D-word registry key offered by an Orb Support Rep to no avail. (But I'm pretty sure it's my crappy router, or port 80 is blocked/****ed by my ISP) I then had my friend try to setup Orb behind his Linksys (I don't know the model but it's new, running on some open source firmware), he forwarded port 554 and 80 to his local IP and left Orb's settings to default.
The above settins worked perfect for me, I logged into his Orb account and watched a couple movies etc.
Hope this helps, I don't get my new Computer or Router till Friday, so I'll do some testing with port 80 to see if it's my ISP or router.
Shaze.ca
eclin
04-25-2006, 08:24 PM
I put my ORB pc into the DMZ zone and it actually streamed a 4 min mp3.
Not working perfectly but it's an improvement.
Im using a Linksys BEFSR41 with the latest firmware (1.46.02, Aug 03 2004)
Don't see Linksys upgrading the firmware after almost two years.
Guess it's time to kick that old Linksys to the curb and try something new.
Thanks for the tip Shaze. :tu:
lancelot916
04-27-2006, 07:57 PM
hey guys,
I still can't get this working. It's still getting the time out thing after 5 min. I tried this from ORB:
The following ports are used to stream Windows, Real, and 3GP media in Orb::
Windows Media: Orb uses the standard TCP port 80. This is the usual HTTP port so for this, if you do not host a Web server in your LAN and no other application "grabs" this port, you should not need to change anything.
for Real and 3GP Media: you need to be able to connect to TCP port 554 and UDP ports 13398 to 13401.
No help to me. Ideas?
shaze
04-28-2006, 09:47 AM
I'm on a router hatin spree this last week, a lot of my friends and co-worker's various routers having been dying. It just seems to me that they aren't designed to take such "1337" amounts of data from individuals who like to consume.
lancelot916: Try getting rid of the router all together first, then work backwards; make sure no firewall crap is being set etc. Garunteed connectivity is the problem, also most major ISP's now block the commercial ports from "residential" consumers such as ourselves, so try switching those up in Orb.
ready4URlink
04-29-2006, 12:54 PM
So, should we admit defeat now?
Cookster
04-29-2006, 09:37 PM
Just tried it on my phone. It is requiring me to enter MSL code to edit the Multimedia settings....now I gotta call sprint.
james2K
04-30-2006, 12:17 AM
I have my MSL and there is no setting for the timeout on the 9000
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=979127&postcount=15
ready4URlink
05-09-2006, 04:13 PM
Okay....so I gave up. I have a Blade now (A900)...lol not too bad at all
james2K
05-09-2006, 05:03 PM
Okay....so I gave up. I have a Blade now (A900)...lol not too bad at all
BOOOOOOOOOOOOO :td: :td:
just kidding have fun and keeep that 9K around just in case ;)
smcinaz
05-20-2006, 02:54 PM
This was posted a while back and I saved a copy. Hope it works for you.
Media Time-Out "Press any key to continue" - No Longer a Problem!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
When streaming media to my phone (orb) on my a900, I would get this incredibly annoying message every five minutes or so of inactivity from my part, meaning I hadn't touched a button in 5 minutes which is frequent if I'm listening to tv, and not always keeping an eye on the screen. This would really drive me nuts so I called up *2 and asked for technical support and explained what was going on and the only resolution they had was to reset all my settings. This would not fix the problem.
I had searched on this forum and others for a fix to this and although I'm sure its been posted on here before, I for the life of me couldn't find it. After having given up on this and just accepted the fact that i couldn't listen to tv without constantly adjusting the volume, I went to change my buffer rate one day and noticed there was also an option to adjsut the multimedia time-out. This option like a few others are not visible from the view mode of ##DATA# only the edit mode. So I gave it a try and it Worked!
To get to to the 3G Data Prog (changing this options i list do not require your msl code)
*All of this is done at your own risk, I disclaim all responsibility for your phone, this worked for me, it should work for you but it may not, if you mess with options other than the ones i list, and it screws up your phone don't complain here.
1. dial ##DATA# (##3282#) when you press the last # it should bring you right into the Programming menu.
2. Select Multimedia, for me its option 6.
3. Select Multimedia Edit, for me its option 2.
4. Select Timeout, for me its option 4
The Time-out optins listed for me are
5 Minutes
10 Minutes
20 Minutes
No Time-out
5. Select the time-out you would like. (Of course I chose No Time-out)
6. After you've selected the timeout of your choice and hit menu/OK you can then just continue to hit back until you've exited the Programming Menu.
You're all Set, no more timeouts!
Does ANYONE have any idea on how to do this with the A920?
I Have my MSI, if it matters.
I do not have the choice for TIMEOUT on my phone.
smcinaz
05-20-2006, 04:18 PM
Does anyone know of anyway to defeat/turnoff/kill the 5 minute multi-media timeout feature of this phone? It is incredibly annoying. Anytime you stream anything from the net-audio, radio, TV, etc. (like from your Orb) the built in multimedia player automatically kicks out every 5 minutes unless you hit a button.
I know there is a way to do it with the a900. Short of switching phones, how can I do it with the A920?
Also, is there a way of downloading and installing an ALTERNATIVE media player in this phone beyond the one that comes with it? Maybe it could be set to not time out?
I would appreciate any help you can provide.
maffy
05-20-2006, 04:23 PM
quite sure this cant be done on the a920. no other media players to install as well.
Thoreau
05-20-2006, 05:10 PM
So THAT'S why the damn thing has been kinda sketchy streaming music lately. I've always got the phone in my pocket when I'm streaming and have never actually seen a timeout notification. The music always just seemed to stop for no apparent reason and kick back out by the time I got the phone out and looked at the screen.
ready4URlink
05-20-2006, 05:39 PM
as far as I know, only the A900 (Blade) can alter the timeout timer....correct me anyone if I'm wrong.
smcinaz
05-20-2006, 05:54 PM
There has to be a way.....this sucks. I sent an email to Samsumg tech support, maybe t hey will have a way.
5 minutes=bullshi+.
romey365
05-20-2006, 09:47 PM
Thanks!! It worked! no more annoying press a button to continue every 5 mintues
smcinaz
05-20-2006, 10:20 PM
With the 9000, you are stuck with the timeout?
Sonin66
05-21-2006, 12:49 AM
yea as far as i know, the a900 is the only samsung that can edit its time.
h20wakebum
05-21-2006, 01:19 AM
and how praytell do I edit this? I have the a900 and the same time out problem. Please tell me how to change it.
Robert
smcinaz
05-21-2006, 10:24 AM
How do you turn off the 5 minute timeout on the A920? Is there anything Sprint can do to make this happen, or is there a debug or other setting for it?
I do not see what a router has to do with it-I have bypassed the router with Orb and it makes no difference-there is somethin in the phone that automatically shuts off multimedia internet streaming if you do not hit a button every 5 minutes.
smcinaz
05-21-2006, 11:16 AM
$50 Paypal Cash To Anyone That Can Solve This For Me!
New91
05-21-2006, 11:18 AM
For some reason mine doesnt do that, try checking if you have the latest firmware.
smcinaz
05-21-2006, 11:29 AM
For some reason mine doesnt do that, try checking if you have the latest firmware.
I have the latest firmware available via "Update your phone".
Is there another source?
Sonin66
05-21-2006, 11:49 AM
$50 Paypal Cash To Anyone That Can Solve This For Me!
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96276
neilson
05-21-2006, 11:58 AM
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96276
1. dial ##DATA# (##3282#) when you press the last # it should bring you right into the Programming menu.
2. Select Multimedia, for me its option 6.
3. Select Multimedia Edit, for me its option 2.
4. Select Timeout, for me its option 4
It'd be all good, Except the A920 HAS no "Option 4" for Multimedia Edit.
You're wrong! You're wrong!
Thoreau
05-21-2006, 12:03 PM
Just confirmed on my A920 (latest firmware). No option for Multimedia Edit.
smcinaz
05-21-2006, 12:07 PM
NO KIDDING.
Come on, guys...........WHAT IS THE SOLUTION?
Sonin66
05-21-2006, 12:08 PM
1. dial ##DATA# (##3282#) when you press the last # it should bring you right into the Programming menu.
2. Select Multimedia, for me its option 6.
3. Select Multimedia Edit, for me its option 2.
4. Select Timeout, for me its option 4
You're wrong! You're wrong!
i never said it was for the a920, i told the op that it was for the a900. now lick my :ohcrap: :laughing:
Sonin66
05-21-2006, 12:09 PM
there is no option to turn it off like the a900. stop asking the same question over and over!
smcinaz
05-21-2006, 12:13 PM
Don't be a freaking quitter.
Find an answer and get the reward and the thanks of HUNDREDS of users.
Sonin66
05-21-2006, 12:28 PM
smcinaz, there might be a way but no one knows what the service code is. why dont you try asking sprint what that service code might be!
smcinaz
05-21-2006, 12:38 PM
I have ALL of the service codes for access with my phones. I have called Sprint but they are so cluless it is REMARKABLE.
Sonin66
05-21-2006, 12:45 PM
well if you have all the access codes, then you should have not problem with doing this. the link i gave out could help you get to the menu that you need to be in
smcinaz
05-21-2006, 12:50 PM
Dude, can you get a grip, PLEASE.
That link was for the A900. You already know that. Yes, I have all the codes, but, so far, no setting for timeout on multimedia. That is why I am poisting here. THERE HAS TO BE A WAY. Firmware change or hack something.
$50 Paypal reward.
Sonin66
05-21-2006, 01:13 PM
lol relax guy! there is no way right now. the service code that you have, should be able to edit the timeout like on the a900. try and find out for yourself
smcinaz
05-21-2006, 01:17 PM
God you are a trip. How many ways do I need to say the same thing? IT IS NOT THERE AS A CHOICE ON THE A920? HELLO? HELLO? HELLO?
Geeze.
There has to be a way. Setting, code, hack, something.
$50 Paypal Reqard If YOu Can Solve This.
jeff94
05-22-2006, 01:08 AM
God you are a trip. How many ways do I need to say the same thing? IT IS NOT THERE AS A CHOICE ON THE A920? HELLO? HELLO? HELLO?
Geeze.
There has to be a way. Setting, code, hack, something.
$50 Paypal Reqard If YOu Can Solve This.
This (http://jefftown.net/Documents/URNAH.m4a) describes you.
Relax. We don't need bribes, so stop flashing your $$ around. It can't be done currently.
HELLO? HELLO? HELLO?
smcinaz
05-22-2006, 01:30 AM
Yet another loser quitter heard from.
Sonin66
05-22-2006, 01:42 AM
as you see, no one has responded with the answer since i left. lol there is no option yet to change this. you are the trip! i keep telling you this and you keep on...wait and see if someone post the answer. and you shouldnt start calling people losers
ready4URlink
05-25-2006, 10:27 PM
With the 9000, you are stuck with the timeout?
Yep, as far as I know....only the A900 *Blade* can turn off the Media-TimeOut. I could be wrong, but I've only heard of that one handset. Which is why I mainly switched to it.
ready4URlink
06-21-2006, 01:08 PM
Hmm...this may have already been discussed/answered....So, does the Fusic have this feature?? If not, I'll stick with the Blade.
laursifer
06-21-2006, 02:39 PM
Nope, no feature like this on the 550, at least not that I've found.
stevew2005
06-22-2006, 03:57 AM
I don't know if this is a Sprint issue or a Samsung phone that's "broken as designed", but it totally sucks on an a920. Sprint needs to fix this and provide a way to disable this "feature". It's a total pain in the ass and if they don't fix it, I'll vote with my money and cancel Ultimate PV.
What really bites is that it also effects Orb streaming and basically renders it useless. You should be able to turn on a stream of mp3's, close the lid, and enjoy. The concept of timeouts is just plain idiotic since it's an unlimited service. Why the heck would you ever want it to time out? If you want the session to end, just hit exit. There's no need for an automated exit (timeout) except to save Sprint EDVO bandwidth as a default. Not customer friendly as usual on their part. The only way to get Sprint to notice is to complain to retention and vote with your wallet. :irked:
stevew2005
06-22-2006, 04:09 AM
This is NOT a router issue. If you're getting any streaming via orb, then it works and not the router. The TO is another issue. It happens on a920 (and other phones) while watching Sprint TV, etc. There's absolutely no reason for that since the service is supposed to be unlimited. The only reason Sprint would make a default TO is to force an automated exit and save on EDVO bandwidth. Think about it. What other possible reason would they not provide a way to disable this TO "feature"? It's available in earlier MM models like the a900. Why not the a920 or a940? What's the benefit to the customer? Unless you consider having to hit a key every 5 minutes a benefit. $%@# Spint.....
stevew2005
06-22-2006, 04:17 AM
It seems that the TO is adjustable only an a900 phone. It happens on a920 and a940 phones while watching Sprint TV, etc. It renders Orb streaming useless too. There's absolutely no reason for that since the service is supposed to be unlimited. The only reason Sprint would make a default TO is to force an automated exit and save on EDVO bandwidth. Think about it. What other possible reason would they not provide a way to disable this TO "feature"? It's available in earlier MM models like the a900. Why not the a920 or a940? What's the benefit to the customer? Unless you consider having to hit a key every 5 minutes a benefit.
The answer is money, only it's not by throwing money at users in an attempt to magically resolve the issue. The answer is to vote with it and tell Sprint retention to fix it or we're going to drop their service (or at least their TV crap that's hamstrung by the TO). Sprint needs to feel our pain with some of their own.
laursifer
06-22-2006, 08:05 AM
I don't think you'll see a user-friendly way to disable this, ever. Sprint runs a business. You're not the only one trying to save money. So are they. Bandwidth is expensive. You have an A920, use a memory card.
We all agree that it sucks, yes, but Sprint's not going to be receptive to that for obvious reasons: money.
stevew2005
06-22-2006, 08:49 AM
No offense, but that's BS. They're already getting my money for 2000 minutes that I don't use and now PV, which they've hamstrung with an unfriendly time-out. They've been getting my money since Spectrum days. If they want to continue to get over $100/month, they need to listen. If money is the only thing important to them, then that's the message we should send them. Vote with your wallet and let them know that you're not happy and will take your money elsewhere.
laursifer
06-22-2006, 09:17 AM
No offense taken, but it's not BS. Seriously... take a look in the Tips & Trades forum and see how many people spend weeks of their lives screwing Sprint out of money just because they want a smaller bill.
Saying that money is the only thing important to them well... that's not true at all. I mean sure, it's important to them. It's important to all of us. If you owned a business, you'd operate the same way--you find a balance between profit and customer satisfaction. Lean more to one side than the other, and your business crumbles. I reiterate, bandwidth is very expensive. With the size of Sprint's handprint on the map, if all of the sudden they let everyone use media without a timeout, their bandwidth costs would probably put them out of business.
I would never take my money elsewhere, and Sprint knows that and as such they treat me pretty damn well. I'm a loyal customer who is more than happy to pay her bill for the services she uses. I won't find these deals anywhere else; if I were to take my money elsewhere, the same plan I have now would cost almost twice as much. Threatening them with saying I'll take my money elsewhere unless I get my way is a level I don't stoop to.
AlphaWolf
06-22-2006, 09:48 AM
Anybody know anything further about this? This is annoying the crap out of me on my MM-9000. Sprint needs to see to it that an option is added to be able to turn this crap off.
laursifer
06-22-2006, 09:51 AM
*sigh*
We know. It sucks. There's actually another thread right below this that we've been talking in. I still think it'll never happen. Economically, it's not in Sprint's best interest.
If you want to avoid it, you just gotta watch/listen to stuff off your memory card.
And I'm not trying to side with Sprint on this one, you guys. I think it sucks too. But I see the reality of it, that we'll probably always be stuck with this timeout feature. There's a hidden option to turn it off on the A900 probably because there's no external memory on the phone.
laursifer
06-22-2006, 10:18 AM
We had about six of these threads, so I went ahead and merged all of them together. Continue... :)
ready4URlink
06-22-2006, 12:14 PM
This is REALLY the main reason why I switched from my humble MM-9000 to the not-so-humble---but-outstanding-somewhat MM-A900.... And this will probably be the reason I stay with this handset for a while, until Sprint (if ever) recognizes that the " Media Time-out" issue has to go.
So, on that note...good luck to everyone....and if the MM-9000 or Fusic evers get that option...I'm dropping this A900 like a used chicken bone.
laursifer
06-22-2006, 12:35 PM
...I'm dropping this A900 like a used chicken bone.
:lol: Hahaha... Yeah, this timeout "feature" or whatever is what caused me to cancel Sprint TV Live. Though I did just sign up for it again, because I suck.
xandro
11-30-2006, 11:37 AM
Okay, so I think I've isolated where the media stream timeout setting that's hidden from the *hidden* service menu is on my fusic.
in the mmcdata file in the embedded filesystem:
wap -> mmc -> mmcdata
here is the relevant snippet from my hexdump...
00004D00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70 68 6F 6E 65 3A 6D 65 ........phone:me
00004D10 64 69 61 2E 73 74 72 65 61 6D 2E 74 69 6D 65 6F dia.stream.timeo
00004D20 75 74 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ut..............
00004D30 74 65 78 74 2F 70 6C 61 69 6E 00 00 00 00 00 00 text/plain......
00004D40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 ................
00004D50 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........5.......
Now, if my theory is correct, simply changing the "5" ("35" in hex) to a "0" ("30" in hex) should eliminate the 5 minute timeout on the media stream.
like this...
00004D00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70 68 6F 6E 65 3A 6D 65 ........phone:me
00004D10 64 69 61 2E 73 74 72 65 61 6D 2E 74 69 6D 65 6F dia.stream.timeo
00004D20 75 74 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ut..............
00004D30 74 65 78 74 2F 70 6C 61 69 6E 00 00 00 00 00 00 text/plain......
00004D40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 ................
00004D50 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........0.......
I proceeded to locate a freeware hex editor and used it to make this change to my mmcdata file. However, since there appears to be a lot of other crucial configuration data stored in this file, I'm afraid to actually copy the modified file over to my phone. (That, and the fact that I've actually never worked with a hex editor before.)
Just wondering if there is anyone here brave enough or experienced at this sort of thing to know whether this might just work, or if I'm simply asking for trouble. ;)
eTribe
12-01-2006, 07:16 PM
Just an observation. When I play the SIRIUS Hits (FREE) Music & Radio channel on my Samsung A920 it will play and play and play and never timeout. All other media I meet the same fate as everyone else (5 - 6 minute timeout).
Is this because SIRIUS is satellite radio vs. an internet stream? Was just curious because it makes you wonder if any other streaming radio could play without interuption.
I selected SIRIUS Hits, then SIRIUS Hits 1 and then closed the screen. It played for 20 minutes or so before I hit exit. It also did it with the screen open. The only thing is that the screens go blank (turn off) from the colorful "light show".
Anyone else experience this? Does that mean there is hope for us media fans to have continuous music of some sorts?
xandro
12-02-2006, 12:26 PM
It worked!! No more 5 minute "please press a key" timeout on my Fusic.
Before proceeding I did all sorts of unnecessary research on binary file editing, tested out the process by making similar changes to less intrusive game & app files, formulated a half-baked recovery plan, then proceeded nervously with palms sweating to load my modified mmcdata file. Lo and behold it worked exactly as I had expected. Just this simple change of the "5" to a "0" and the timeouts are no more.
Not sure if other phones have this same mmcdata file or something similar. But I suppose it's worth looking into if the 5 minute timeout annoys you as much as it did me.
I wouldn't recommend that any novices try this. And if anyone does, proceed with extreme caution and at your own risk. A wrong move modding this file could potentially mess up your phone.
Thats sweet, I may have to try this on my 920. :Popcorn2:
ready4URlink
12-03-2006, 09:44 PM
Does the Krazr and Razr have the option to disable the multimedia time out too? Or the M1 or A610
xandro
12-04-2006, 12:57 PM
Does the Krazr and Razr have the option to disable the multimedia time out too? Or the M1 or A610
Not sure. But from everything posted here it seems the A900 is the only phone with this option actually visible in the service menu. On other phones you'll probably need to resort to hex editing as I did.
Actually, if anyone with the A900 would like to share, I'd love to see what the mmcdata and mmcnamelist files look like on this phone (if it has these files).
This section in particular on mmcdata has me curious...
00004570 70 68 6F 6E 65 3A 72 65 73 65 74 00 00 00 00 00 phone:reset.....
00004580 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00004590 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 74 65 78 74 2F 70 6C 61 ........text/pla
000045A0 69 6E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 in..............
000045B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 02 00 ................
000045C0 00 00 70 68 6F 6E 65 3A 72 65 73 74 61 72 74 73 ..phone:restarts
000045D0 65 73 73 69 6F 6E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ession..........
000045E0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 74 65 78 74 2F 70 ..........text/p
000045F0 6C 61 69 6E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 lain............
00004600 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 ................
00004610 02 00 D7 2F 00 68 6F 6E 65 3A 72 65 73 74 6F 72 .../.hone:restor
The streaming player exiting when the flip is closed is another thing that bothers me on my phone. I think the "phone:restartsession" setting might have something to do with it, but I'm not sure, and have no idea what this could be changed to. This doesn't happen on the A900, so I'd like to compare files to see what is different between phones. Either post this part of your hexdump or PM me if can send the whole files (there is no personal data in these - just proxy ip's/urls/ports, version info, and media settings).
frostyfrog
12-04-2006, 04:17 PM
I would love for someone to find out how to do this on the A920. IT is so annoying, even watching Sprint's ABC channel it does this. Every 5 minutes exactly. Not to mention Orb or anything else worth using. Please find out!! Thanks in advance!! :fingers:
eTribe
12-04-2006, 06:45 PM
I have a A920 also and would love to know how to turn that 5 minute thing off. Not a Hex expert so wondering if there is a simple step by step solution to follow.
laursifer
12-04-2006, 07:41 PM
Since xandro JUST figured this out, your best bet is to read everything he's posted, do research like he did, and try it on your own. Otherwise, you're just gonna have to wait until someone else with an A920 goes through the trouble of figuring it out. Since so many people hate that timeout feature though, it might not be too long of a wait ;)
slydog64
05-01-2007, 08:55 AM
How do I find the service code for my a900m?
slydog64
05-01-2007, 09:04 AM
how do you get the service code?
tomc585
05-01-2007, 09:12 AM
Call cust srvc and tell them you want to change the multimedia time-out setting. They will walk you throught it by first givving you the MSL code to enter. Have paper and pen handy so you can write down the code. Its a 6 digit number.
slydog64
05-01-2007, 09:13 PM
That was easy! They gave me the msl code for three different phones i have.
thank you for the advice on how to get the msl number!!
tomc585
05-02-2007, 08:46 AM
Easy as pie right? Glad to have helped.
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