Sanyo Katana coming soon: Here's what the specs are now: (Pics)

[bluecoyote]

The Sanyo Katana is currently undergoing the final states of development at Sanyo. It is intended to be Sprint's 'premium' phone, combining features, form, and function. Expect it to retail around $600.00 here's what has been settled on so far:

Camera:
2MP CMOS. No optical zoom or focus, but camera quality should be a 'significant improvement' over the Sanyo 9000.

Form Factor:
All metal, about 5% thicker than the current Samsung A900. The phone will be silver, though more of a 'gunmetal' finish. The design will be VERY squarish (almost iPod-like in its simplicity.) The best way I can describe the outside is that it'll look similar to an LG G4050 only the LCD bezel runs the entire vertical length.

Battery:
Sanyo will be using a new li-polymer battery and should have battery life at or around 5 hours talk time.

Screen:
The screen will be identical to the MM-9000, though should feature a brighter backlight that uses less power. So expect a QVGA display.

UI:
The UI will take the direction of the Sanyo 7500 and be custom skinnable.

Memory Card:
MiniSD.

Weight:
About the same as the Sanyo 9000

Points of interest:
Sanyo is planning on adding an additional means of text input on this device. The keypad will be underlayed with organic light emitting diode displays that change from standard 1-9 to a text input board. Due to licensing issues I cannot offer insight as to whether it'll be FastTap or another another method.

Sanyo wants people to be able to read and respond to text / IM's from the outer LCD (functionality of say, the Motorola TXTR) , so the phone will slide horizontally to allow you to use the outer LCD to type a reply text message. The screen will have a 16:9 aspect ratio so you can watch media on it in landscape form. The resolution will be roughly around 132 x 176.

The phone will also have an 'emergency' non-replaceable battery that can be enabled/disabled with a switch. The idea is to provide an extra 5 minutes talk time 1 hour gps time, or 2 hours standby time in case if the main battery dies in the event of an emergency. This battery will be mounted behind the earpiece. It will self-condition and supposedy last the life of the phone (probably 3 years)

The phone will have an extendable internal antenna to help with reception.

Bluetooth will be implemented but I have no idea about ObEX. Sanyo's having a duckens of a time getting it to work.

Everything else is standard Sanyo fare.

Sanyo wants to have this phone on Sprint shelves by June.

[Rinnegato]

Any word on Powervision capabilities? Or is it true with the rumors that this wont be EVDO capable?

[NASCAR14FAN]

The Sanyo Katana is currently undergoing the final states of development at Sanyo. It is intended to be Sprint's 'premium' phone, combining features, form, and function. Expect it to retail around $600.00 here's what has been settled on so far:

Camera:
2MP CMOS. No optical zoom or focus, but camera quality should be a 'significant improvement' over the Sanyo 9000.

Form Factor:
All metal, about 5% thicker than the current Samsung A900. The phone will be silver, though more of a 'gunmetal' finish. The design will be VERY squarish (almost iPod-like in its simplicity.) The best way I can describe the outside is that it'll look similar to an LG G4050 only the LCD bezel runs the entire vertical length.

Battery:
Sanyo will be using a new li-polymer battery and should have battery life at or around 5 hours talk time.

Screen:
The screen will be identical to the MM-9000, though should feature a brighter backlight that uses less power. So expect a QVGA display.

UI:
The UI will take the direction of the Sanyo 7500 and be custom skinnable.

Memory Card:
MiniSD.

Weight:
About the same as the Sanyo 9000

Points of interest:
Sanyo is planning on adding an additional means of text input on this device. The keypad will be underlayed with organic light emitting diode displays that change from standard 1-9 to a text input board. Due to licensing issues I cannot offer insight as to whether it'll be FastTap or another another method.

Sanyo wants people to be able to read and respond to text / IM's from the outer LCD (functionality of say, the Motorola TXTR) , so the phone will slide horizontally to allow you to use the outer LCD to type a reply text message. The screen will have a 16:9 aspect ratio so you can watch media on it in landscape form. The resolution will be roughly around 132 x 176.

The phone will also have an 'emergency' non-replaceable battery that can be enabled/disabled with a switch. The idea is to provide an extra 5 minutes talk time 1 hour gps time, or 2 hours standby time in case if the main battery dies in the event of an emergency. This battery will be mounted behind the earpiece. It will self-condition and supposedy last the life of the phone (probably 3 years)

The phone will have an extendable internal antenna to help with reception.

Bluetooth will be implemented but I have no idea about ObEX. Sanyo's having a duckens of a time getting it to work.

Everything else is standard Sanyo fare.

Sanyo wants to have this phone on Sprint shelves by June.

Do you have any pics you can share?

[Tigrrre]

EVDO?

this still sounds like a winner...but also sounds like it will cost more than the $249 that some people have been saying it will be.

[bluecoyote]

It will be Powervision capable! He hasn't sent me the pictures / design sketches yet, but Sanyo went through a lengthy design process for this one and hired a whole new department to oversee the making of this phone, and they've been very tight-lipped about it.

And it's going to be well north of $249.00 .

[Tigrrre]

i hope it has eAAC+ support...

this WILL be my next phone....alongside the 700p :D

[ssaifull]

Sounds like a bunch of BS, comparing to what we've heard earlier. But we'll see.

[Rinnegato]

It will be Powervision capable! He hasn't sent me the pictures / design sketches yet, but Sanyo went through a lengthy design process for this one and hired a whole new department to oversee the making of this phone, and they've been very tight-lipped about it.

And it's going to be well north of $249.00 .
Wow... Don't tell me I'm going to have to buy a new phone again... lol

[theChosen1G]

$600:eek:

If I'm reading right, this is going to be a slider phone?

Any word on AD2P (or whatever the bluetooth stereo protocol is called)?

[Tigrrre]

if it is all that BC just said it is....then it will be worth the potential $250-$500 :D

[Tigrrre]

whoa! $600?

oh...decisions decisions...

*starts saving up my pennies*

[bluecoyote]

Update / Clarification On EVDO:
"There's going to be a total of 3 Katana devices, which will be referring to the form factor. The first one, heading for Sprint in June, will be the high-end priced around $600.00 as it currently stands. Sanyo may very well try and squeeze the price down to help sell the initial supply. They do NOT want to compete with the Samsung "Blade," and this is intended to cut above it and cater to the more professional crowd."

"About 2 months later in August will be the replacement for the 8300. This will still have the Katana slide/flip form factor but will not have expandable memory, as well as a smaller screen but the same external display. It will, and I repeat WILL have EV-DO, though. That part of the design has pretty much been finalized so there's not even a question about it, as it's the only way we can get the appropriate battery life"

"The third of this series will go head to head with the LG PM-225, and feature an internal display equivalent to the Sanyo 8300 and a monochrome external display. While the phone will feature metal construction, it will be of the regular flip form factor and have a standard keypad. It will also not feature multimedia streaming or EV-DO."

"These phones are intended to define Sanyo's design for upcoming phones for the next 2-3 years, especially with the Nokia transition. Sanyo won't introduce new form factors after this until about a year after the merger."

[Felicia]

Sounds like a bunch of BS, comparing to what we've heard earlier. But we'll see.


I was thinking the same thing!

[pmb333]

how about bluetooth on the 8400?

[viperboy]

:needpict: :hee:

[Ronkh]

my 9000 is starting to get worried........

[Tigrrre]

is it powering on and off for no apparent reason ron? :hee:

[gribbal]

still no bluetooth?

[Gourd]

"These phones are intended to define Sanyo's design for upcoming phones for the next 2-3 years, especially with the Nokia transition. Sanyo won't introduce new form factors after this until about a year after the merger."

Based on this statement, the Katana might have to be THE phone to buy for the next 2 years or so...

[EliteSoja]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (MobilePhone SCP-5300/1.0) NetFront/3.0 MMP/2.0)

Hey Blue Could U See If The 5700 Coming Out Please?

[VibrantRedGT]

Slim slider phone, c'mon. Also with a hefty price, nah, I'll pass. :td: My 9000 does everything I need except get me a beer out of the fridge.

[ScrewDaShack]

im not reading the whole thread, but you said it will be EVDO? I ask because at the sprint training in PA this past week they were told it will NOT be EVDO....

[jschu22]

I hope that BC isnt planning on saying "Ha-Ha, Gotcha!" in six days. Thats not typical of you Blue so Ill give you the benefit of the doubt. Sure sounds unbelieveable... But I want to believe it.

[Ronkh]

is it powering on and off for no apparent reason ron? :hee:


nope, it's quiverring thinking about the katana

[KevC84]

If it sounds too goo to be true then it probably is. Some of the features are outrageous. This is America not Asia. I call BS too. I mean I hope it's true but I am being a little more realistic.

[Tigrrre]

well, it did say, as of now...they could always dumb down the specs for the "average" american feature set and wallet :irked:

[Sprint_Insider]

The Sanyo Katana is currently undergoing the final states of development at Sanyo. It is intended to be Sprint's 'premium' phone, combining features, form, and function. Expect it to retail around $600.00 here's what has been settled on so far:

Camera:
2MP CMOS. No optical zoom or focus, but camera quality should be a 'significant improvement' over the Sanyo 9000.

Form Factor:
All metal, about 5% thicker than the current Samsung A900. The phone will be silver, though more of a 'gunmetal' finish. The design will be VERY squarish (almost iPod-like in its simplicity.) The best way I can describe the outside is that it'll look similar to an LG G4050 only the LCD bezel runs the entire vertical length.

Battery:
Sanyo will be using a new li-polymer battery and should have battery life at or around 5 hours talk time.

Screen:
The screen will be identical to the MM-9000, though should feature a brighter backlight that uses less power. So expect a QVGA display.

UI:
The UI will take the direction of the Sanyo 7500 and be custom skinnable.

Memory Card:
MiniSD.

Weight:
About the same as the Sanyo 9000

Points of interest:
Sanyo is planning on adding an additional means of text input on this device. The keypad will be underlayed with organic light emitting diode displays that change from standard 1-9 to a text input board. Due to licensing issues I cannot offer insight as to whether it'll be FastTap or another another method.

Sanyo wants people to be able to read and respond to text / IM's from the outer LCD (functionality of say, the Motorola TXTR) , so the phone will slide horizontally to allow you to use the outer LCD to type a reply text message. The screen will have a 16:9 aspect ratio so you can watch media on it in landscape form. The resolution will be roughly around 132 x 176.

The phone will also have an 'emergency' non-replaceable battery that can be enabled/disabled with a switch. The idea is to provide an extra 5 minutes talk time 1 hour gps time, or 2 hours standby time in case if the main battery dies in the event of an emergency. This battery will be mounted behind the earpiece. It will self-condition and supposedy last the life of the phone (probably 3 years)

The phone will have an extendable internal antenna to help with reception.

Bluetooth will be implemented but I have no idea about ObEX. Sanyo's having a duckens of a time getting it to work.

Everything else is standard Sanyo fare.

Sanyo wants to have this phone on Sprint shelves by June.

I will be AMAZED if 20% of this is true. Expect the Katana to be an entry level thin phone.

[Tigrrre]

Slim slider phone, c'mon. Also with a hefty price, nah, I'll pass. :td: My 9000 does everything I need except get me a beer out of the fridge.

the 9000 is great...but....if this phone were to come out...it would be my dream phone....a thin slider on sprint! and a sanyo too! :Popcorn2:

[spano45]

The specs seem very specific so it makes me believe it more...instead of the usual completely vague tid bits of information that is given then everyone lets there imagination ride speculating on what it will be lol :hee:

[Tigrrre]

well...there's speculation...and then there's fantasy...while this leans more on the fantasy side....it is very specific....meaning either....BC has too much time on his hands and needs something to do QUICK, or it's true (for now @ least), before sprint decides to cripple it in one way or another to keep us phone addicts buying :p

[VibrantRedGT]

the 9000 is great...but....if this phone were to come out...it would be my dream phone....a thin slider on sprint! and a sanyo too! :Popcorn2:

Really? I thought slider phones were played out years ago? Sprint still has 1.5 year old Samsung A800's still on the website. Can't sell out of that slider. I like the clams. :headbang2

[Tigrrre]

...uhhmm...

the a800 came out in may 05...not october 04, it still sells BC they need to compete on the 2.0mp front, and w/the a940 discontinued... :deal:

[Jonathanlc2005]

im not reading the whole thread, but you said it will be EVDO? I ask because at the sprint training in PA this past week they were told it will NOT be EVDO....

where at in PA and when was this?

[Jonathanlc2005]

The Sanyo Katana is currently undergoing the final states of development at Sanyo. It is intended to be Sprint's 'premium' phone, combining features, form, and function. Expect it to retail around $600.00 here's what has been settled on so far:

Camera:
2MP CMOS. No optical zoom or focus, but camera quality should be a 'significant improvement' over the Sanyo 9000.

Form Factor:
All metal, about 5% thicker than the current Samsung A900. The phone will be silver, though more of a 'gunmetal' finish. The design will be VERY squarish (almost iPod-like in its simplicity.) The best way I can describe the outside is that it'll look similar to an LG G4050 only the LCD bezel runs the entire vertical length.

Battery:
Sanyo will be using a new li-polymer battery and should have battery life at or around 5 hours talk time.

Screen:
The screen will be identical to the MM-9000, though should feature a brighter backlight that uses less power. So expect a QVGA display.

UI:
The UI will take the direction of the Sanyo 7500 and be custom skinnable.

Memory Card:
MiniSD.

Weight:
About the same as the Sanyo 9000

Points of interest:
Sanyo is planning on adding an additional means of text input on this device. The keypad will be underlayed with organic light emitting diode displays that change from standard 1-9 to a text input board. Due to licensing issues I cannot offer insight as to whether it'll be FastTap or another another method.

Sanyo wants people to be able to read and respond to text / IM's from the outer LCD (functionality of say, the Motorola TXTR) , so the phone will slide horizontally to allow you to use the outer LCD to type a reply text message. The screen will have a 16:9 aspect ratio so you can watch media on it in landscape form. The resolution will be roughly around 132 x 176.

The phone will also have an 'emergency' non-replaceable battery that can be enabled/disabled with a switch. The idea is to provide an extra 5 minutes talk time 1 hour gps time, or 2 hours standby time in case if the main battery dies in the event of an emergency. This battery will be mounted behind the earpiece. It will self-condition and supposedy last the life of the phone (probably 3 years)

The phone will have an extendable internal antenna to help with reception.

Bluetooth will be implemented but I have no idea about ObEX. Sanyo's having a duckens of a time getting it to work.

Everything else is standard Sanyo fare.

Sanyo wants to have this phone on Sprint shelves by June.

ok i have a few questions and my opinion...

is it going to be like the V phone from verizon...
EVDO?
how does extendable internal work really?
why no pics and it comes out in June?
does this emergency battery never get replaced?


opinion...
i kind of see it alittle like BS because of all this technology never being brought out in the 9000 and now they bring everything inside this phone. did the all of a sudden decided to turn on thier "thinking hats". if it turns out like te V phone i think it would look hot like the "new razr" and will sell. the BT we know will be with it but all that about light emitting diodes and emergency battery really sets in the BS. so far i like the design. and why put the UI of the 7500, its slower then the 9000


:deal: SPRINT YOU ARE REALLY TESTING MY PATIENCE WITH THE 9000 I JUST BOUGHT. STOP BRINGING IN COOLER PHONES. I WAS ALREADY BROKE LAST TIME :money: :ranting1:

[Tigrrre]

1. god i hope not *shudders*
2. according to BC, yes.
3. ever seen a 6016i?
4. keyword "tight-lipped"
5. of course not.

[bluecoyote]

Again, this is coming from someone at Sanyo who is consulting on the design, and I can't just post everything they send me because they don't want to lose their job :-P . Because of the significance of these phones, they don't want to circulate them until they are close to announcement. Remember how long the 5600 was circulated? And by the time it came out everyone was tired of its design.

Sanyo has cut a lot of costs manufacturing their phones (they're now spending more in design & development) trying to carve out an identity in the phone arena, and the "Katana" devices are meant to be Sanyo's springboard into the Sanyo-Nokia merger becoming part of Nokia's CDMA design studio.

If you want to know the reason why, it's because the short-term debt they accrue will be gobbled up by Nokia, and Nokia's encouraging it for the sale because it helps them gain a better foothold. Sanyo as a corporation was VERY stingy with their wireless division, but now that the reigns have been loosened a little (plus as Sanyo phones are struggling to get shelf space) you'll see some more daring designs.

Bluetooth will not be in the entry-level one. Again, Sanyo is having a LOT of problems with Bluetooth- moreso than the OLED keypad, and Sanyo's order of business is to have Nokia help them out with these things when the merger is complete. So don't be surprised if Bluetooth appears only on the high-end Katana (which may actually run Series 60 in a later design evolution a couple years from now)

[Jonathanlc2005]

cant you just PM me so i can get a rough idea besides that. like draw it or something. i can keep a secret

[fredrx]

[QUOTE=bluecoyote]It will be Powervision capable! He hasn't sent me the pictures / design sketches yet...QUOTE]

June release and no "design sketch" yet? ... I doubt it

[Edwood]

It's all bullsh*t until the pics show up on the FCC site.

How many "upcoming" new phones have come and gone? :rolleyes:

-Ed

[SmplyD]

Yeah, it definately sounds like a bunch of BS mixed with rumor and conjecture.

As far as EV-DO, I will stake my professional reputation now saying there is no way they will be releasing a high end Sanyo without at least one version EV-DO capable.

Sprint is much too interested in receiving the recurring payments for Power Vision to not be able to cash in on that revenue source.

[ScrewDaShack]

It was friday, i will ask him where.

[johnny hotsauce]

Slim slider phone, c'mon. Also with a hefty price, nah, I'll pass. :td: My 9000 does everything I need except get me a beer out of the fridge.

That's what I got my wife for... LOL, She would so kill me if she saw that, thank God she doesn't go to forums... hehehehe :fingers:

I agree though, my 9000 does more than I need so I don't think I'll be switching for a while. Besides, I just switched carriers, got new phones and I have to let the bank account recover from the beating before my wife gives me one.

Now, if this thing has everything BC says it will have it would probably be best to let the phone work out it's bugs before we go crazy and spend our piggy banks on this thing and have it be a buggy flop that we have to keep swapping out until one finally works. I have a feeling BT is going to be horrible since this will be Sanyo's first BT handset in the U.S. and BC mentioned that Sanyo is already have a lot of fun problems getting it to work.

Just my $.02 :headbang2

[ScrewDaShack]

i wont be switching till october, and thats only if this iden cdma phone makes it worth my while...IE everything my 9000 does plus the DC

[johnny hotsauce]

i wont be switching till october, and thats only if this iden cdma phone makes it worth my while...IE everything my 9000 does plus the DC

I'm actually glad to be rid of DC. I swear, I always got chirped at the wrong time or place or at the one time that I forgot to turn the damn speaker off. Even worse was if someone didn't send you an alert and just chirped through and blurted out something that you didn't need said when you're in a business meeting. I know it's my own fault for not turning off the speaker in time but sometimes you just forget or don't get a chance to when a meeting gets called on a minutes notice.

[VibrantRedGT]

Nobody hates DC more than me. I was with Nextel for 4 years. DC is good for a quick things but to have a conversation its annoying. I'm tired of people yelling at their phones in public places. That DC chirp makes cringe. This is why mobile to mobile rules. I still have friends and family with Nextel. Oh, the fact that you couldn't roam on nextel is even worse. Anyway I'm glad Sprint merged with them (M2M).

[sitlet]

2MP CMOS. No optical zoom or focus, but camera quality should be a 'significant improvement' over the Sanyo 9000.

significant improvement? how is a cmos in improvement? the only thign that would be an improvement is a ccd camera. making a 2mp cmos is like putting spinner rims on an old rusty car. its not going to make it much better.

[johnny hotsauce]

Nobody hates DC more than me. I was with Nextel for 4 years. DC is good for a quick things but to have a conversation its annoying. I'm tired of people yelling at their phones in public places. That DC chirp makes cringe. This is why mobile to mobile rules. I still have friends and family with Nextel. Oh, the fact that you couldn't roam on nextel is even worse. Anyway I'm glad Sprint merged with them (M2M).

So far I'm pretty happy with my move to Sprint, it's only been 2 months but I haven't experienced any of the problems that people constantly bad talk Sprint about. The CS has been flawless the couple times I had to use them, the coverage area has been excellent, no dropped calls, no places where I get no signal, text works, Power Vision is awesome and the calls are crystal clear. With the execption of CS, everything has been the complete opposite of what I was going through with Nextel.

I also seem to like the Sprint community better between here and Hofo. They're more down to earth, helpful and don't have the attitude that you're a loser if you're not with Nextel like I ran into in those forums.

[Tigrrre]

nexthell :td:

[james2K]

I also seem to like the Sprint community better between here and Hofo. They're more down to earth, helpful and don't have the attitude that you're a loser if you're not with Nextel like I ran into in those forums.

Yeah nextel people are like that for sure. The ones I see in stores live and die by their 2way buttons, and all I hear is how the merger screwed things up for them after Sprint took over. Little do they know how badly the merger changed things for CDMA...but as a store employee I have to keep my mouth shut, no matter how badly I want to express my hatred for nextel.

[Guy]

This thread is drifting way off topic. Lets get this thread back on track.

[Tigrrre]

ok....so about the phone...

:needpict:

[r0fl]

all the info totally does not match what i learned today

[Tigrrre]

care to share? :)

[r0fl]

read my thread i just posted

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95084

[Tigrrre]

done...pics? sketches? lol..

[pcsXB]

Expect it to retail around $600.00 .


Thats not true, not even close.

[kdr_nrz]

not trying to stir the pot here but everything that i have heard says that the kitana will be a cheap entry level phone. while i have not heard any this from sanyo i have heard this from several different channels of information. either way i think it is going to be a nice phone.

[Deval]

*sniff sniff* damn smells like a load of BS

[YoungCEO]

*sniff sniff* damn smells like a load of BS
Sadly, I have to agree :haha:

[stfuownzu]

*sniff sniff* damn smells like a load of BS

Agreed :wink:

[Jonathanlc2005]

Agreed :wink:

agreed

[Merlyn_3D]

*sniff sniff* damn smells like a load of BS

Heh...the moment I read that it'll be a slider AND a flip, I suspected...haha...too good to be true.

[johnny hotsauce]

Heh...the moment I read that it'll be a slider AND a flip, I suspected...haha...too good to be true.

It'll be a flip slider! :headbang2

[pmb333]

It'll be a flip slider! :headbang2

A flider no no ... a slipper. ;)

[Tigrrre]

:hee: i like that...

[GaryK]

or maybe it will be just a FLIPPER

[Tigrrre]

wouldnt that just be a regular clamshell?

[aschlect]

or maybe it will be just a FLIPPER

.....no, as pmb333 said, it'll be a slipper ! :haha: You can wear it as a shoe and use your bluetooth headset for calls.

[pacman9900]

I dont think sprint has the balls to bring out a 600 phone thats not a PDA. I mean common how marketable is that. When I heard my specalations It wasnt any were near what homeboy said. I mean thats outrages He tries to use big words and make it sound real but new customers 150 off of 600 aint even a discount. The Katana will be a little over entry level. I hear way better than the A900. Sanyo cant bring out a phone after a previous model (a-900) and not make it better. thats like playing madden 06 when madden 07 is out you smell me/... Sanyo has 7 phones models to replace this year and here is the list


VI-2300>PM 3100 :cool:

MM-5600> MM5700 :headbang2

VI-6400>MM-Katana-6600 FINNALLY :Popcorn2:

MM-7500>MM-7600 :music:

MM-8300>MM-8400 :Popcorn2:

MM-9000>MM-9100 :clap:

???>MM-8600(Never heard of it but from homeboy its possible time will tell) :fingers:

[CrazyX]

:needpict: :hee:

exactly. :clap:

[CoreyTheGent]

Too good to be true. I'm sure not falling for this **** again. I hate to be a cynic or possibly dissuade you from providing good info in the future, blue, but I need some hardcore evidence before I start going crazy over this.

I'll say one thing: it's all logical, not a single bit of the story is completely ridiculous (unless you're tuolumne who claims Sanyo doesn't have the "R&D" to accomplish such a feat).

[lgmayka]

My interpretation of this thread is that bluecoyote is relaying proposals from Sanyo designers. These phones will only see the light of day if Sprint approves them for sale. The claimed June delivery date for the high-end $600 phone is simply a stretch goal in order to get Sprint's approval.

Time will tell whether Sprint actually approves the high-end phone; and if it does, more time will tell whether Sanyo can deliver it before 3Q06.

[EliteSoja]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (MobilePhone SCP-5300/1.0) NetFront/3.0 MMP/2.0)

Hey Pac When Will U Be Getting More Info On The 5700?

[Sprint_Insider]

Ok, a little editing on pac's math to what the real replacements are


VI-2300>PM 3100>VI-2400

MM-5600> MM5700>already replaced, called the mm-9000

VI-6400>MM-Katana-6600>ok

MM-7500>MM-7600>none, this thing has been out like 2 months people

MM-8300>MM-8400>maybe

MM-9000>MM-9100 >none

???>MM-8600(Never heard of it but from homeboy its possible time will tell)+>PM-3100

[SanyoEngineer]

As an employee of Sanyo, I can confirm that bluecoyote's statements are correct, although I should tell you blue that Sanyo has requested this information not be given to the public, so I'd appreciate it if you told your source to keep their mouth closed about these things before they receive FCC approval.

There are a few things that are not correct- the MM-6600 is the lower-end Katana and that will be the first, NOT the last to hit Sprint. While the designers originally did start with the higher-end Katana, it will feature a smartphone OS, not the UIOne OS from Qualcomm as you said. Take a guess as to what OS it's going to run.

Edit: Just as an addendum, The process which Sanyo has created these phones is almost entirely different from their previous lineup. For those who want to know, Sanyo did in fact hire an outside design and engineering group to re-develop every aspect of a Sanyo phone that could be scaled across the entire lineup while providing a future niche for Sanyo. These are going to be some exceedingly well-engineered phones and I hope they sell well.

[johnny hotsauce]

As an employee of Sanyo, I can confirm that bluecoyote's statements are correct, although I should tell you blue that Sanyo has requested this information not be given to the public, so I'd appreciate it if you told your source to keep their mouth closed about these things before they receive FCC approval.

There are a few things that are not correct- the MM-6600 is the lower-end Katana and that will be the first, NOT the last to hit Sprint. While the designers originally did start with the higher-end Katana, it will feature a smartphone OS, not the UIOne OS from Qualcomm as you said. Take a guess as to what OS it's going to run.

I would hope WM 5.

[Tigrrre]

eww...oh god no.

i hope symbian.

[allies]

bring on the high end katana :)

[EDGE23]

As an employee of Sanyo, I can confirm that bluecoyote's statements are correct, although I should tell you blue that Sanyo has requested this information not be given to the public, so I'd appreciate it if you told your source to keep their mouth closed about these things before they receive FCC approval.

There are a few things that are not correct- the MM-6600 is the lower-end Katana and that will be the first, NOT the last to hit Sprint. While the designers originally did start with the higher-end Katana, it will feature a smartphone OS, not the UIOne OS from Qualcomm as you said. Take a guess as to what OS it's going to run.

Edit: Just as an addendum, The process which Sanyo has created these phones is almost entirely different from their previous lineup. For those who want to know, Sanyo did in fact hire an outside design and engineering group to re-develop every aspect of a Sanyo phone that could be scaled across the entire lineup while providing a future niche for Sanyo. These are going to be some exceedingly well-engineered phones and I hope they sell well.
please dont turn sanyo into crapsung, some users actually prefer more features than a good looking phone, but it wwould be really cool if sanyo could have the looks and features. :)

[Tigrrre]

ehh...im sure they wont..

if they used wm5 though, that would be awful :(

i hope series 60!

[johnny hotsauce]

ehh...im sure they wont..

if they used wm5 though, that would be awful :(

i hope series 60!

I don't think WM5 would be that bad, I do agree that symbian would be a better choice.

[Tigrrre]

...i wouldnt touch wm5 w/a 10 foot pole after having the VZW i730, and 700w for a week. :(

[laursifer]

...i wouldnt touch wm5 w/a 10 foot pole after having the VZW i730, and 700w for a week. :(

I agree. I got to play with some WM5 devices the past couple of weeks. Buggy, buggy, buggy. Doesn't take much to cause a hiccup. WMP10 also wasn't updated AT ALL, which was a huge mistake as well. What a crappy media player. Then you have the problem with a lot of software not even working on WM5 devices because of the whole one-handed navigation thing, though software updates can (and may have already) fixed that. Web browser is still junk and ActiveSync is a tool of the Devil.

[Tigrrre]

^ the truth right there...i broke record time in freezing wm5 in 20 seconds after boot on the 700w :hee:

mac os would truly make a smartphone.
though series 60 comes quite close :)

[Sprint_Insider]

anyone just think bluecoyote created another persona to confirm his speculations?

[Tigrrre]

i doubt it.

anyone w/access to IP logs that can confirm this?

[pacman9900]

Dear Mr. Sprint Insider


Ok OK I been studying sanyo for a while, since the PM-8100 was created, and Im also an Employee at sprint. Dammit if I had my own cpu and didnt have to use this restricted CPU INTRANET at work I would tell yall I little secret sanyo got planned and a pic of the Katana I just gotta get approval from my Main source.(BUT DAT PHONE IS SEXY) well unfortunatly I cant!! But Oh My man, do you know about sale revenue??? You dont stop a current series after it makes you so much money bro. The 5000 series is Sanyo's bread and butter. The only reason the MM-9000 was created wasnt to replace the 5600 its was to help Launch Evdo. Sanyo didnt have enough time to make it a whole lot different from the 5600 hundred so they made it better and fixed the bugs that made the 5600 bad. the 9000 series is a whole brand new series Check the FCC site it proves it. The 5000 series isnt discontinued there will be a MM-5700 mark my words Sanyo needs all the moeny and marketability they can get. It only makes since. Now the MM-9100 will be better than the 5700 but the MM-5700 will be created. NOW!! if all ends fail then 6600 will take its place and have more than one version of the Katana but if you think about what I said it makes so much since!

ps> my replacements at the bottom are stating the current models that are being replaced by newer models in 2006 let me elaborate for you Genius!

06'' RELEASE DATES ARENT 100% ACCURATE TO A "T"

May 2005/Sanyo MM-5600>>End May-July 06/Sanyo MM-5700 :clap:

Jan 03/VI-6400>>June 06/MM-Katana-6600 :tu:

Dec 11th 05/MM-7500>>December 9th 2006/MM-7600/ :tu:

July 25th 05/MM-8300>June-August 06/MM-8400 :tu:

November 8th 2005 MM-9000>November 23rd 06 MM-9100 :tu:
:clap:


Sincerly, Pacman9900( DA GENIUS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WITH CELL PHONES!)

[Tigrrre]

if you are lying....im sending jake after you!

the release dates sound about right though.

[CoreyTheGent]

As an employee of Sanyo, I can confirm that bluecoyote's statements are correct, although I should tell you blue that Sanyo has requested this information not be given to the public, so I'd appreciate it if you told your source to keep their mouth closed about these things before they receive FCC approval.

There are a few things that are not correct- the MM-6600 is the lower-end Katana and that will be the first, NOT the last to hit Sprint. While the designers originally did start with the higher-end Katana, it will feature a smartphone OS, not the UIOne OS from Qualcomm as you said. Take a guess as to what OS it's going to run.

Edit: Just as an addendum, The process which Sanyo has created these phones is almost entirely different from their previous lineup. For those who want to know, Sanyo did in fact hire an outside design and engineering group to re-develop every aspect of a Sanyo phone that could be scaled across the entire lineup while providing a future niche for Sanyo. These are going to be some exceedingly well-engineered phones and I hope they sell well.For the record, this could be anyone who came along, registered a new user name and decided to advance this joke. It in no way validates blue's info, only hard evidence will validate blue's info, IMO. This could all be crap or simply pipe dreams from Sanyo employees with no guarantee that Sprint's going to accept these handsets just like LGM earlier stated.

Now, logic aside, the "Take a guess as to what OS it's going to run" statement doesn't necessarily mean this magical Super Katana will run Windows. Considering the Nokia venture and rumors of a Symbian Sanyo coming to Sprint for the past couple years, it could very well be a Symbian device.

Other than that, there's too much bull**** in this thread and the date's too close to April 1st for me to take any of this seriously. I'll wait for some pictures and FCC IDs.

[r0fl]

this thread is ridiculous, with no hard evidence and alot of misspellings. add to that, posts by people with 1 post count trying to backup this claim

[Deval]

in other words, lets all fuel the fire :tu:

[Matt]

What an interesting IP match. ;)

[Matt]

and may I remind a certain user of rule #17 in the SU guidelines.

"17. Multiple forum user accounts by the same person are forbidden. Should you ever wish to change your username, please contact one of the Administrators."

[Deval]

:lol: BURN

[SanyoEngineer]

You are aware that most proxy-based browsers, J2ME browser, or WAP-based services do not assign individual IP addresses? (I bet it even shows up next to it, too) I'm not Bluecoyote, nor am I any other member on this board. Take my word for what it is if you want.

[Matt]

You are aware that the IP I searched was not wap based. I know what the IP was and I know what is going on here.

[theChosen1G]

Please tell :Popcorn2:

[Matt]

I think most people know.

[theChosen1G]

I think most people know.

I don't, that's why I'm asking. :)

The only thing that can be said it that the sanyo guys is 100% LYING about being a unique member...but I'd rather not jump to conclusions.

[mcurtiss1970]

aquawolf?

[nonymoustipster]

I'm sure there will be skeptics, but this is for real. Normally I don't contribute but the rumor mill here is getting out of hand.

Some of what is being reported is true. Specifically that this is not meant to go head-to-head with the a900. The target price point is around $100 after rebates. If I had to guess I'd say mid-to-late Summer.

That's not to say that there aren't multiple models coming bearing the Katana moniker. This is the only one that I see real evidence of. To those wondering why such low res pics, they came from a 9mb ppt and I figured less evidence by taking pics of screen vs. leaving and electronic paper trail by emailing attachments and such.

[theChosen1G]

I'm sure there will be skeptics, but this is for real. Normally I don't contribute but the rumor mill here is getting out of hand.

Some of what is being reported is true. Specifically that this is not meant to go head-to-head with the a900. The target price point is around $100 after rebates. If I had to guess I'd say mid-to-late Summer.

That's not to say that there aren't multiple models coming bearing the Katana moniker. This is the only one that I see real evidence of. To those wondering why such low res pics, they came from a 9mb ppt and I figured less evidence by taking pics of screen vs. leaving and electronic paper trail by emailing attachments and such.


Looks authentic to me. Even has the New Sprint Logo. :headbang2

From first pic:

Bluetooth
VGA camera
2.2" screen
QVGA display
3 full hours talk time and 7 days standby


If this has a hard speaker phone button and reasonable size internal memory or expandable, bye bye A900. :wavey:

[r0fl]

haha there it is! it also is going to have an extended battery if anyone was wondering

[Chicago]

FINALLY! Someone brave enough to post pics!

[s2000gtx]

damn it look nice i really like the black but the sark blue one stand ouu a little better

[lgmayka]

There are a few things that are not correct- the MM-6600 is the lower-end Katana and that will be the first, NOT the last to hit Sprint. While the designers originally did start with the higher-end Katana, it will feature a smartphone OS, not the UIOne OS from Qualcomm as you said. Take a guess as to what OS it's going to run.
1) You seem to be confirming that the only member of the Katana line arriving in 2Q06 (before June 30) is the low-end, non-EVDO model.

2) Are you asserting that later Katana models have already been accepted by Sprint? Or are they merely proposals from Sanyo at this point? As long as Sprint has an exclusivity clause for Sanyo wireless phones in the United States, Sanyo is not going to fully develop a new model for the American market until after Sprint has accepted it.

3) Are you asserting that this high-end Smartphone Katana will actually be both clamshell and slider? I think that's what bluecoyote was trying to describe. And that despite the greater functionality, its size will be phone-scale and not PDA-scale?

4) Will this Smartphone OS accept viruses? Frankly, I don't want a phone that accepts viruses. I myself am much more comfortable with a phone that accepts only Java apps living within the "sandbox" restrictions.

[Edwood]

Again, nothing on the FCC site regarding a new CDMA Sanyo. :rolleyes:

-Ed

[zackrhodes]

Again, nothing on the FCC site regarding a new CDMA Sanyo. :rolleyes:

-Ed

Lately sanyo seems to wait to give the fcc the info until right before the phone is released. for example the 7500 first showed up on the fcc site on 11/21 and was released 12/7. so no new info on the fcc does not mean much.

[zackrhodes]

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=28296

i like the blue one. but my only fear is that this will be looked at as a razr ripoff. i.e. the lip on the bottom.
but looking at the size of the keypad, and if it is typical sanyo size, than this phone might not be as wide as the razr, maybe as much as a 1/4 of an inch less. lets hope so, sanyo needs something to set it apart not just blend in.

[pacman9900]

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=28296

i like the blue one. but my only fear is that this will be looked at as a razr ripoff. i.e. the lip on the bottom.
but looking at the size of the keypad, and if it is typical sanyo size, than this phone might not be as wide as the razr, maybe as much as a 1/4 of an inch less. lets hope so, sanyo needs something to set it apart not just blend in.

Those phones look pretty acurate but I dont remember the camera being positioned like that?? plus That is not the model I seen or held. It looks like 50% accurate but the model I seen didnt have a VGA camera I know for sure it was a mega pixel and the button wasnt positioned like that. Maybe they are comming out with different versions like he said, damn time will tell. I dont like entry level phones basically because they dont offer everything I need in a phone I have A 9000 why whould I change for that garbage. that phone in the pic is specifically for females!

[james2K]

I'm sure there will be skeptics, but this is for real. Normally I don't contribute but the rumor mill here is getting out of hand.

least we finally have pics, thanks!!

[huskerpat]

I like the looks of the black one. I'm due my upgrade in June, so hopefully these'll be available shortly thereafter.

[CoreyTheGent]

First off, thanks a lot for the pics, nonymoustipster. We need more brave souls like yourself to break those NDAs and give us solid info even at the risk of losing your job.

Sanyo's finally bringing a phone that looks like it was shipped directly from Japan and it has such weak specs. :irked: If there are multiple Katanas (and I'm inclined to believe that there are), why couldn't the best one come first or all of them at once?!

No way Sanyo's wasting all of the resources it took to develop that handset on one puny phone.

[huskerpat]

In my opinion, they need a phone like this to go toe to toe with the razr at the lower price point. I can switch carriers and get a razr for $80.

[CoreyTheGent]

In my opinion, they need a phone like this to go toe to toe with the razr at the lower price point. I can switch carriers and get a razr for $80.The A900, however, is currently going for $99 with a 2yr contract. Verizon's giving away two of the V3c, albeit with downgraded screens, for $99. This phone with Power Vision and a 1.3mp camera should be going for the same price after a few months on shelves.

[huskerpat]

When I went shopping last week, the A900 was going to be $200 after my $150 discount. I haven't seen it offered for $99 around here.

[parrott84]

Update / Clarification On EVDO:

"The third of this series will go head to head with the LG PM-225, and feature an internal display equivalent to the Sanyo 8300 and a monochrome external display. While the phone will feature metal construction, it will be of the regular flip form factor and have a standard keypad. It will also not feature multimedia streaming or EV-DO."

"These phones are intended to define Sanyo's design for upcoming phones for the next 2-3 years, especially with the Nokia transition. Sanyo won't introduce new form factors after this until about a year after the merger."

I am assuming that this is the phone we have a picture of as it seems to match up nicely. The first picture says
*'a stylish, ultra-thin clamshell camera phone at a very aggressive price'
*'fashion savvy, trend oriented, tech connected singles'
*'bluetooth, VGA camera, 2.2" QVGA Display'
*'3.5 full hours talk time 7 days standby'

In the pictures we see normal keypad (kinda) poosible monochrome external display and it does look like metal construction. This phone is a regular flip factor as far as we can tell. The only thing that doesn't fit is the internal display. No video mention leads us to assume no MM feature. I like the way this phone looks alot but if the phone in these pictures is the phone that Bluecoyote talked about then also expect no EV-DO or Memory Slot. Thats my .02. Now lets bring on the pictures of the other 2 phones.... :clap:

[Tigrrre]

too RAZR like....on the camera...

[Matt]

Only a VGA camera??? ACK.

[parrott84]

too RAZR like....on the camera...

Very RAZR like in every way even down to the round hinge on the flip

[mcurtiss1970]

say what you want about the A900 being a razr wannabe...this one isn't even subtle about trying to look like one

[dravonix]

hey, sprint knows how to stea, i mean recieve our money.

you gotta give them that

(fix wap posting!!!! opera still doesn't work!)

[anandroid]

So, in essence, this is going to be a ghetto version of the Blade?

[dravonix]

I'm sure there will be skeptics, but this is for real. Normally I don't contribute but the rumor mill here is getting out of hand.

Some of what is being reported is true. Specifically that this is not meant to go head-to-head with the a900. The target price point is around $100 after rebates. If I had to guess I'd say mid-to-late Summer.

That's not to say that there aren't multiple models coming bearing the Katana moniker. This is the only one that I see real evidence of. To those wondering why such low res pics, they came from a 9mb ppt and I figured less evidence by taking pics of screen vs. leaving and electronic paper trail by emailing attachments and such.


i'll be the skeptist.
the photos, while the phones look like the s***, are very blurry,

possibily photochoped.

but this is only because of all the **** that was going on before the PV phones came out.

besides, wouldn't you also have some FCC photos?
or are you from sanyo or something.

(and if they are photoshoped, i give thee kudos, it's a very good job. -the bluuriness. :rolleyes: )

[Tigrrre]

say what you want about the A900 being a razr wannabe...this one isn't even subtle about trying to look like one

noticed it definitely..

[Guy]

No expandable memory?? :(

[Tigrrre]

i heard it did have expandable memory...

[parrott84]

There will be 3 levels apparently and this one will probably not have expandable memory

[james2K]

this phone's not meant to compete with the blade...less features, less $$ to get one

I'll prolly grab one when they drop to arrive, albeit late, into the thin phone game with a phone I can actually depend on. Sorry everyone...

It'll make a great phone for line 2 with GF'd vision...

[Tigrrre]

ill get the high end one...maybe.

[Caldwell21]

I'm going to be broke before my birthday...I just got to get it...maybe I should wait though to see if it's buggy or not...

[parrott84]

i'll be the skeptist.
the photos, while the phones look like the s***, are very blurry,

possibily photochoped.

but this is only because of all the **** that was going on before the PV phones came out.

besides, wouldn't you also have some FCC photos?
or are you from sanyo or something.

(and if they are photoshoped, i give thee kudos, it's a very good job. -the bluuriness. :rolleyes: )

If you look at the picture the mouse pointer is on one of the phones, and i am sure it is blurry from the dirty monitor screen. I think the pics are legit.

[Tigrrre]

I'm going to be broke before my birthday...I just got to get it...maybe I should wait though to see if it's buggy or not...

c'mon....it's a sanyo...bugs?

[SingSongBird]

Since when has sanyo done squared off phones?

[He123321]

I'll pick this entry level thin phone in a heart beat. Black one for me, and the pink for the wife.

[BigSteve]

All the wait and NO SPEAKER PHONE!!!!!! Maybe sanyo will have the speaker phone on the other two late models.

[lgmayka]

When I went shopping last week, the A900 was going to be $200 after my $150 discount. I haven't seen it offered for $99 around here.
Fry's has the Sanyo 9000 and Samsung A900 and A920, each of them for $99 after discount/rebate.

[parrott84]

while you can't see the speaker phone it does look like it has a dedicated button on the front so i would expect the speaker to be on the back, also RAZR esk i believe, but i don't know for sure. However the 8100 was the last Sanyo phone without a speaker i believe and i don't think there is a current model in Sprints line up withour speakerphone but i could be wrong.

[Redhed]

c'mon....it's a sanyo...bugs?

You beat me to it!

[r0fl]

i'll be the skeptist.
the photos, while the phones look like the s***, are very blurry,

possibily photochoped.

but this is only because of all the **** that was going on before the PV phones came out.

besides, wouldn't you also have some FCC photos?
or are you from sanyo or something.

(and if they are photoshoped, i give thee kudos, it's a very good job. -the bluuriness. :rolleyes: )
I can vouch for those pics of the 6600 being real and their are a ton of people here who can vouch for my info always being dead on.
as for FCC photos those are kept confidential usually until the release or sometimes after

[Merlyn_3D]

Hmm.....if that's the Katana, what's it got that the A900 doesn't? It supposedly isn't even an EVDO phone, is that correct?

[r0fl]

Remember the blade retails for $349 so this is aim'd at the people who cant afford to pay $200 or more for the slim look. and this phone is not evdo

[psychojoe3354]

Seems to match everything I've seen/heard. Gonna pick one up simply cause it's new. (I still love my blade though)

[VibrantRedGT]

That's a hefty price tag.

[krudl3r]

http://www.howardforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=59916

[Jonathanlc2005]

not too bad but still the inside looks like a T720 by t-mobile

[Tigrrre]

lol....t720...blechh

[Jonathanlc2005]

second that, i bought that phone for 125 dollars with a year contract at t-mobile, signal was horrible and the color was like 4 colors. plus hated the attachable camera. traded it for a samsung S105 and never went back to motorola

[zackrhodes]

http://www.howardforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=59916

thanks for the link krudl3r

from the other pics i thought it was just flat on the face but this pic shows some nice shape on the lid, which imo makes it less razrish, and better looking than the 900. i can't make out what it says below the new sprint logo???? edit : does it say "ultrathin mobile phone"
i'm starting to like this phone.

[Deval]

http://www.howardforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=59916

thanks for the link krudl3r

from the other pics i thought it was just flat on the face but this pic shows some nice shape on the lid, which imo makes it less razrish, and better looking than the 900. i can't make out what it says below the new sprint logo???? edit : does it say "ultrathin mobile phone"
i'm starting to like this phone.

Yeah seems like that...I think its a perfect phone for bring in customers who want slim phones, and not pay out the ass for them. $200 for an A900 vs $100 for this? Hmmm, you do the math

[Tigrrre]

i really do hope they change the looks around on this phone, because right now it is looking FUGLY

[psychojoe3354]

http://www.howardforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=59916

HAH! It looks like the Batmobile! :haha:

[Matt]

Oh I am sorry but that is hideous.

[Tigrrre]

rofl!

i thought the same thing....the old one at that.

[nxtr]

well now I am convinced, that my A900 will be with me for quite a while!!!

V/R,
Nick

[pacman9900]

second that, i bought that phone for 125 dollars with a year contract at t-mobile, signal was horrible and the color was like 4 colors. plus hated the attachable camera. traded it for a samsung S105 and never went back to motorola

I see you have the MM-9000 and once you go high end you dont go back. NON EVDO HA!!! I could never use Modem speeds again it sucks! I mean EVDO change the whole interface on how you operate on your phone. Just look at the transition in how you recieve Picture mail SO DAMN GREAT not much loading and no more waiting! wow! anyway The phone looks sexy. But that isnt the one I seen and held as I stated before. PLEASE DONT SCRAP AWAY THE KATANA I SEEN SANYO! EVDO, MP-CAMERA EXTERNAL VIDEO DISPLAY BLUETOOTH WOW! WHAT A DREAM!!! But for now nothing can replace this dream MM9000! I have been waiting on a phone like this since sanyo 5500

[krudl3r]

HAH! It looks like the Batmobile! :haha:

I was thinking it looks more like the Star Wars Rebel Snowspeeder... just need to mount some cannons (dual antenna) on there...

[RattDawg]

http://www.howardforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=59916


Anyone notice the pixelation around the Sprint logo?

[Tigrrre]

i noticed it looks sharper than the rest of the image.

anyone have a larger copy of the pic?

[Deval]

anyone reading too much into an image?

[zackrhodes]

Yeah seems like that...I think its a perfect phone for bring in customers who want slim phones, and not pay out the ass for them. $200 for an A900 vs $100 for this? Hmmm, you do the math

Especially since it has a 2.2 qvga screen, and no visible antenna, it will sell well. I just hope sanyo will beta test it and not let the customers find all the bugs like samsung is doing with the a900 and others.

btw the sprint logo looks like it was added with the words "ultrathin mobile phone" below it, which to me seams like something a marketing person would do, not someone trying to make a fake.

[Tigrrre]

actually, a marketing person wouldnt use that wording.

[ssaifull]

Nice! I agree, it has batmobile-esque looks. Pretty sharp and since it's a Sanyo, you can expect a certain degree of stability.

[ImmerStark]

anyone just think bluecoyote created another persona to confirm his speculations?


yes

[ImmerStark]

I'm sure there will be skeptics, but this is for real. Normally I don't contribute but the rumor mill here is getting out of hand.

Some of what is being reported is true. Specifically that this is not meant to go head-to-head with the a900. The target price point is around $100 after rebates. If I had to guess I'd say mid-to-late Summer.

That's not to say that there aren't multiple models coming bearing the Katana moniker. This is the only one that I see real evidence of. To those wondering why such low res pics, they came from a 9mb ppt and I figured less evidence by taking pics of screen vs. leaving and electronic paper trail by emailing attachments and such.

I smell something blue, may we have an ip addy check on isle 5?

[NM08SRT8]

Not sure if pictures or this link have been posted, but here's a link from our fellow friends at HoFo...

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=881019

[Tigrrre]

oh, it's been posted.

[NM08SRT8]

ooh ok, my bad then, i got an error and my firefox turned off, so i just went to the last page and posted the link instead of going through the rest of the 9 pages lol, i guess before i ask anymore questions, i should read through this thread first..

[Deval]

Especially since it has a 2.2 qvga screen, and no visible antenna, it will sell well. I just hope sanyo will beta test it and not let the customers find all the bugs like samsung is doing with the a900 and others.

btw the sprint logo looks like it was added with the words "ultrathin mobile phone" below it, which to me seams like something a marketing person would do, not someone trying to make a fake.

From what I've seen, Sanyo phones are traditionally stable...so we won't have to worry about software bugs

[harris]

Wirelessly posted (MM7400: Mozilla/4.0 (MobilePhone MM-7400/US/1.0) NetFront/3.1 MMP/2.0)

...i wouldnt touch wm5 w/a 10 foot pole after having the VZW i730, and 700w for a week. :(

I agree. I got to play with some WM5 devices the past couple of weeks. Buggy, buggy, buggy. Doesn't take much to cause a hiccup. WMP10 also wasn't updated AT ALL, which was a huge mistake as well. What a crappy media player. Then you have the problem with a lot of software not even working on WM5 devices because of the whole one-handed navigation thing, though software updates can (and may have already) fixed that. Web browser is still junk and ActiveSync is a tool of the Devil.

I'm sorry but I have to correct you. Activesync is the devil.

[SmplyD]

Fry's has the Sanyo 9000 and Samsung A900 and A920, each of them for $99 after discount/rebate.

Yeah, but only if you allow the Fry's people to create your new plan (minus all the freebies and discounts).

I know this is just a little off-topic, but has anyone re-signed a contract, accepting a crappy plan with the intent to contact eCare to get your extra freebies and discounts added later, and done it successfully?

[SmplyD]

Okay, for all you guys who think this phone rips off the RAZR... due to the design and construction of thin phones, there is inevitably going to be design similarities between one or more thin phones.

This thinness trend (undoubtedly started by the RAZR, but was nonetheless inevitable anyway) produces thinner phones with more features, following the market as to what most consumers want. I don't know anyone who, with all other things being equal, would choose to carry a big brick around in their pocket when a sliver will do the job just as well and in fact, may even be a little more durable due to the alloy of the case. Anyone who thinks thin phones are here today, gone tomorrow should fit right in with some of the crack smokers I used to know. Will Ferrell and Ben Stiller have lampooned the evolution of phones into microscopic flecks, but smaller really is better (too a point) and that's what we're seeing now. I'm personally really excited.

I may be overstating the obvious here, but if they can fit all the features of a 9000 with BT and a 2.2" QVGA into that small package, I'd stomp over my 94 year old paraplegic grandma to get one! Since I just so recently upgraded, I'll probably wait until the high end katana starts being sold at Fry's for a reasonable (sub $250) price-point, and do an ESN swap. I just got my plan the way I like it (check my sig) and wanna keep it for awhile without being nuked. I wouldn't qualify for the phone rebate anyway.

It's definately an exciting time, I'm glad Sanyo seems to finally be getting with the program. Sanyo has long been a leader in cellphone technology and UI design, and if they can continue to bring that kind of innovation to this new form factor, there is noone to stop them but themselves!

[Tigrrre]

they didnt have to have the ugly RAZR lip.

[Matt]

I got your lip right. :D

[KAT]

i really do hope they change the looks around on this phone, because right now it is looking FUGLY
I totally agree, I'm just not into all the angles and curves, personally I really like the flat simplicity of the a900 as far as aesthetics go.

[zackrhodes]

I totally agree, I'm just not into all the angles and curves, personally I really like the flat simplicity of the a900 as far as aesthetics go.

but had sanyo made it flat it would really look like a razr900 design rip off. they did add angle and curves to make it stand out a little from the others. you and thirdshift may not like it but i am sure alot of sprint customers will.

[Edwood]

but had sanyo made it flat it would really look like a razr900 design rip off. they did add angle and curves to make it stand out a little from the others. you and thirdshift may not like it but i am sure alot of sprint customers will.


Looks even more like a Razr knockoff than even the Samsung A900. Right down the camera area and the hinge. Look at the sideview.

That is if those leaked renderings (those are obviously not real product photos) are the real thing.

-Ed

[Tigrrre]

i sure hope sanyo doesnt actually release that heap.

[GallantFox]

No matter what it looks like or how they design it, people are going to have differences of opinion. I happen to think it looks cool and would buy it in a heartbeat if it were available now.

-GallantFox-

[Deval]

Again...maybe when we get a picture of it in someone's hand, etc. the opinions will change...in all honesty, it will see...reguardless of the opinions of the people on here

[poorlyduck]

I just gave it some brightness and I notice the sharpness around the camera eye, the sprint logo and text under it and the sanyo logo, doesnt look like it faked?

[Tigrrre]

the sprint logo and "ultrathin mobile phone" look photoshopped.

[poorlyduck]

the sprint logo and "ultrathin mobile phone" look photoshopped.

definitely, they didnt even do it right, the sub text always is thiner than the main text but there u can see the ultrathin mobile phone is bold and bright the same as Sprint logo also is that the quality of the image for a new phone? they took the picture with what with -0.5mp camera?

[Tigrrre]

yeah, this might not even be the fabled katana, while i wouldnt put it past sanyo to put out something so ugly in present day, i doubt this is it.

[SmplyD]

I would put money that this is not a faked photo. It may have some discrepancies, but don't all pre-production leaks?

This is just a prototype that may or may not undergo some design changes as they move to production.

[Tigrrre]

i HOPE this isnt it, or if it is, that they will change the design for the high end version (dont even know if that will exist)

[KAT]

And like another poster said..... I'm wondering why the Sprint logo is so obviously pixelated. I've gotten that same effect by taking a image, reducing it's size, realized I made it to small, and then try to enlarge it again. This looks to me like this logo came from somewhere else, and resized to look correct on the phone. You can even see a borderline around the logo where this pixelation stops, showing normal pixels every where else on the phone. I'm not accusing anyone of photoshopping, but I kind of see this as a red flag, if nothing else.

[Deval]

maybe is a crappy ass picture to begin with?

[Dave B.]

DAMNIT! see this really urks me, i actually LIKE the looks of that phone. I just really wish that they would've switched the features on this phone and the A900. I'd MUCH rather have that phone with EVDO, MP camera, Media Player etc. and just have the A900 being a mid-level phone. Such a shame cause if this phone had everything the A900 does, I would gladly switch when this phone came out, but like stated above, once you go 'high end' phone you dont go back. I cant even IMAGINE using anything non-EVDO!

[Deval]

DAMNIT! see this really urks me, i actually LIKE the looks of that phone. I just really wish that they would've switched the features on this phone and the A900. I'd MUCH rather have that phone with EVDO, MP camera, Media Player etc. and just have the A900 being a mid-level phone. Such a shame cause if this phone had everything the A900 does, I would gladly switch when this phone came out, but like stated above, once you go 'high end' phone you dont go back. I cant even IMAGINE using anything non-EVDO!

yeah but keep in mind, the A900 is $200 with activation, so when your normal joe-shmoe dumb F walks in the door, its slightly above their means...but a $100 phone, which looks really thin/cool, is perfect for them

[Tigrrre]

dont think the a900 will lower in price by then?

[BigSteve]

yeah but keep in mind, the A900 is $200 with activation, so when your normal joe-shmoe dumb F walks in the door, its slightly above their means...but a $100 phone, which looks really thin/cool, is perfect for them

LMAO :haha: :lol:

[Jamal03]

I found something a little different

http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=881019

[Tigrrre]

same ugly heap..

[Jamal03]

Looks like im a little late on that ^ :lol: looks like i didnt read all the info.

[sooner_luvr]

When is this phone coming out?

[zackrhodes]

When is this phone coming out?

nothing written in stone, iirc some have said may or june.

[KAT]

maybe is a crappy ass picture to begin with?
Yes, it is also a crappy ass picture to begin with.

[MacUser]

If, it for real... I'll take one when it comes out thank you! :Popcorn2:

[Tigrrre]

Yes, it is also a crappy ass picture to begin with.

crappy ass phone to begin with :laughing:

[Matt]

Well, lets not pass judgement until we have seen it.











But from the pic it is UGGY!

[Carterism]

I want it because one of em' is pink. :p

[Matt]

Here carter http://pdxmatt.textamerica.com/?r=3745712

[Tigrrre]

^^^^ ugglllyyy 2

[Matt]

but it's pink. Behave.

[Tigrrre]

yours?

[Matt]

oh hell no. mine is blue

http://usera.imagecave.com/PDXMatt/000_0014.jpg

GAYZR

[Carterism]

Here carter http://pdxmatt.textamerica.com/?r=3745712

yeah when that first came out it made me want to switch! but then i couldnt leave sprint because of my plan and then the cingular pink came out and that was toooooo cute! i'm hoping the sanyo pink one will be like the cingular razr pink. is that your phone? if so, i'm jealous!!

[Tigrrre]

oh hell no. mine is blue

http://usera.imagecave.com/PDXMatt/000_0014.jpg

GAYZR
was it originally sky blue?

[Matt]

Nah. Just plain ole silver

[CoreyTheGent]

Okay, for all you guys who think this phone rips off the RAZR... due to the design and construction of thin phones, there is inevitably going to be design similarities between one or more thin phones. ...True, but this phone is much closer (at least when closed) than any other slim handset that has surfaced. As I said on HoFo, Samsung did a much better job at differentiating its product from the RAZR. Sanyo could've done just the same and I'm sure it was on the minds of its designers, but for some reason they chose to roll with this.

Motorola definitely did a better job at melting the lip into the RAZR's overall design. Sanyo looks like they just slapped it there. Very poorly done but perhaps that picture is of an old unfinished prototype.

I don't approve for now but I'll wait to actually see and hold the phone. Thus far it's got too much of that blocky Japanese conservatism, like an old Camry. It's so nice to see something completely fresh from Sanyo, however, that I can't hate.

[Felicia]

I like the Katana the way it is, the design is infectious and I see why Sanyo copied Motorola. If Motorola can sell millions I bet the Sanyo hope they will do the same. The a900 is hideous IMO! Sorry a900 guys!

[NotoriousNeo]

I like the Katana the way it is, the design is infectious and I see why Sanyo copied Motorola. If Motorola can sell millions I bet the Sanyo hope they will do the same. The a900 is hideous IMO! Sorry a900 guys!

You have awkward tastes then. The groove in the Katana makes it look very ugly. The A900 and V3c keep it very simple, yet elegant.

[Tigrrre]

rounded off edges on the screen and the "lip" make it worse.

[KAT]

You have awkward tastes then. The groove in the Katana makes it look very ugly. The A900 and V3c keep it very simple, yet elegant.
While I really don't see the point in telling others that their personal tastes are not quite correct for liking what they like, I'll have to agree with you on the looks of the a900 and the V3c. Just because something looks different doesn't necessarily mean it looks better, but I'm not shocked that Sanyo is trying to look a bit different. I wouldn't mind a new thin Sanyo that had similar lines to the a900, V3c, even though I know Sanyo would get reamed by many for being a design rip-off, just like we heard with the Blade compared to the RAZR.

[Deval]

all this, and the picture isnt even a final release model...damn, I cant wait

[NotoriousNeo]

While I really don't see the point in telling others that their personal tastes are not quite correct for liking what they like, I'll have to agree with you on the looks of the a900 and the V3c. Just because something looks different doesn't necessarily mean it looks better, but I'm not shocked that Sanyo is trying to look a bit different. I wouldn't mind a new thin Sanyo that had similar lines to the a900, V3c, even though I know Sanyo would get reamed by many for being a design rip-off, just like we heard with the Blade compared to the RAZR.

Hmm, well, it's only my opinion after all, just like hers was hers. As for the Sanyo design, I see why Sanyo would want to maybe alter it a bit but it's not like it matters, the thin aspect is what draws comparisons so no matter what they do their phone will be considered another RAZR copycat...which I find incredibly stupid because phones would've gone that way anyways, Moto just did it first.

[KAT]

all this, and the picture isnt even a final release model...damn, I cant wait
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I know this is a preliminary design, I just hope they don't stick with it that's all. They do have that option eh?

[pacman9900]

Hmm, well, it's only my opinion after all, just like hers was hers. As for the Sanyo design, I see why Sanyo would want to maybe alter it a bit but it's not like it matters, the thin aspect is what draws comparisons so no matter what they do their phone will be considered another RAZR copycat...which I find incredibly stupid because phones would've gone that way anyways, Moto just did it first.


ok ok everybody is getting amped up for nothing. 1st Everybody complained this thread is usless without any pics and know we got some type of pics NOT 100% but atleast a clue and people still complain??? This phone is gonna sell like THE PS3 When it launches Fast, quick and garunteed to sell out. Not cause of the look, but because everybody wants a sanyo thin/slim phone. I know plenty people that didnt buy the A-900 just because its samsung. Sanyo has the easiest user interface of any manufacture hands down. The reception and button placement is placed so perfectly. Put it this way, If one of you guys dont get one, You will atleast test it out, touch it or know someone that will purchase one. HONESTLY YOU kinda dont have a choice its SANYO!! :haha:

[KAT]

Hmm, well, it's only my opinion after all, just like hers was hers. As for the Sanyo design, I see why Sanyo would want to maybe alter it a bit but it's not like it matters, the thin aspect is what draws comparisons so no matter what they do their phone will be considered another RAZR copycat...which I find incredibly stupid because phones would've gone that way anyways, Moto just did it first.
Agreed, I'm not to surprised about people talking about stealing designs in the very beginning of a new style/trend, but I figure as time goes by all this stuff about who ripped off who will eventually just fade away, since I see this thin thing as more than just a trend, with many more phones from different carriers getting skinny as well. Actually, from the features I see on this phone so far, I wouldn't part with my 9k for it anyway. I want a thin Sanyo real bad, but I'm not gonna peddle backwards feature wise just because it's thin.

[Tigrrre]

ok ok everybody is getting amped up for nothing. 1st Everybody complained this thread is usless without any pics and know we got some type of pics NOT 100% but atleast a clue and people still complain??? This phone is gonna sell like THE PS3 When it launches Fast, quick and garunteed to sell out. Not cause of the look, but because everybody wants a sanyo thin/slim phone. I know plenty people that didnt buy the A-900 just because its samsung. Sanyo has the easiest user interface of any manufacture hands down. The reception and button placement is placed so perfectly. Put it this way, If one of you guys dont get one, You will atleast test it out, touch it or know someone that will purchase one. HONESTLY YOU kinda dont have a choice its SANYO!! :haha:
a high end version would make some of the ugly fade away.

[CoreyTheGent]

all this, and the picture isnt even a final release model...damn, I cant waitI figured it wasn't but how much is actually going to change for the final product? Probably tighten up some gaps and everything but I doubt it'll be radically different from what we see.

[Redhed]

a high end version would make some of the ugly fade away.

I agree... even though I don't even think it's ugly.

[Felicia]

You have awkward tastes then. The groove in the Katana makes it look very ugly. The A900 and V3c keep it very simple, yet elegant.


My tastes aren't akward, they're unique! LOL . I like what I like! I can't help it!
I would think the Katana is simple and elegant since it basicly copies the V3c. Oh well, no sense in arguing about it, to each his or her own! :)

[Tigrrre]

yes, and the v3c is ugly too.

[Felicia]

yes, and the v3c is ugly too.


You never liked it, so your opinion doesn't count! LOL

[SmplyD]

...since I see this thin thing as more than just a trend, with many more phones from different carriers getting skinny as well. It is just that - a trend. The market is trending towards slimmer phones... I think you may have meant more than just a fad. Just semantics really.Actually, from the features I see on this phone so far, I wouldn't part with my 9k for it anyway. I want a thin Sanyo real bad, but I'm not gonna peddle backwards feature wise just because it's thin.You won't have to. The first Katana to be released may be a cheaper phone more for the basic and low-end users (i.e. mass market). Probably when they get the figures on how well it's doing they will release slim-factor phones across all of their comparable feature sets. I'm not sure if they will be able to cram external memory into that form factor, but other than that I imagine they will release a version with as good or better stats than our 9000.

As has been mentioned, the technology and consumer demand is trending towards thinner phones, because really, who wants to carry a brick around in their pocket when a sliver does the job just as well or better? I know I am certainly waiting for the day I can trade in my 9000 for something slimmer with a bigger screen.

[Deval]

I still dont understand where everyone seems to assume that they are coming out with 4 different models of this 'katana'?

[Tigrrre]

because it needs to compete with the a900.

[TheWhiteRabbit]

Some child deleted my thread which is pretty cool and mature, must be an insecure fellow that would rather delete threads instead of talking to me, but here it is again :lol:

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Information-on-the-ultra-slim-Sanyo-Katana-cellphone-revealed-article-a_1206.html

[Matt]

Now was that so hard to post in an existing thread? It's not wise to insult the forum mods.

[Tigrrre]

rofl...


same old crappy ugly pics too :haha:

[TheWhiteRabbit]

Now was that so hard to post in an existing thread? It's not wise to insult the forum mods.

"Wow, I'm a cool administrator that deletes threads, can I be any cooler?" Like I said, what you are saying is bull, nobody posted "SANYO PICTURES", so everything you're saying to me is being contridicted by your ignorance yet again. :lol: :haha:

[Tigrrre]

there were pictures (albeit ugly and photoshop looking) posted in the thread before, if you couldnt be bothered to look before, that's your problem

also, it's not wise to mess with mods, i see you are now temp banned. have a nice night :)

[KAT]

It is just that - a trend. The market is trending towards slimmer phones... I think you may have meant more than just a fad. Just semantics really.You won't have to. The first Katana to be released may be a cheaper phone more for the basic and low-end users (i.e. mass market). Probably when they get the figures on how well it's doing they will release slim-factor phones across all of their comparable feature sets. I'm not sure if they will be able to cram external memory into that form factor, but other than that I imagine they will release a version with as good or better stats than our 9000.

As has been mentioned, the technology and consumer demand is trending towards thinner phones, because really, who wants to carry a brick around in their pocket when a sliver does the job just as well or better? I know I am certainly waiting for the day I can trade in my 9000 for something slimmer with a bigger screen.
I'll be waiting for the same day my friend, A sleak, slim Sanyo clam with at least all the features of the 9000, and a 4050 size screen, (a guy can dream can't he?) and it is SO mine. And as far as 'cramming' external memory in such thin phones, I'm wondering if anyone is working on a MM SD. That would be a 'mini mini SD' card. I think I read about a 4 GB mini SD, so you'd think they could cram a 512 or a gig in a even smaller card, making it easier to slip in phones with such confined spaces, everything else is bound to get smaller, the only thing I still want bigger is the internal, (and external if possible) display(s).

[Tigrrre]

they can do it, look at the t809 :)

[Matt]

mini mini SD card? Like a MicroSD? Smaller than a postage stamp. About 1/2 the size of a postage stamp actually.

[Tigrrre]

microSD is smaller than that ;)

[Matt]

Almost too small. I lost a 128MB MicroSD in my sofa never to be found again.

[Tigrrre]

imagine a smaller card! :scare:

[KAT]

mini mini SD card? Like a MicroSD? Smaller than a postage stamp. About 1/2 the size of a postage stamp actually.
Oops, I guess they already make such a card, I have heard of a MicroSD. So..... I guess the next question is will they ever make a phone that would exept such a card, since it seems the trend is going to be cramming more things in smaller spaces, you'd think devices like this would be a good candidate for a even smaller card. Ok, it's late, and i'm starting to ramble...

[KAT]

they can do it, look at the t809 :)
But is it a clam?

[Matt]

Several phones use the MicroSD. The Samsung a920 and T809 (GSM) do, as well as my Motorola v635.

[Matt]

But is it a clam?

It's a slider. My clamshell Moto v635 is clamshell and uses MicroSD.

[KAT]

It's a slider. My clamshell Moto v635 is clamshell and uses MicroSD.
Ok, Ok, disregard my great idea for a even smaller card, didn't know it was already being done, and I don't pay all that much attention to phones with other carriers. Needless to say I feel kinda goofy now. I didn't think the t809 was a flip phone. Some sliders have some real nice big screens on them, but I just can't relate to the slider/candybar thing. I'm a clam boy all the way, and can't stop wondering why we haven't seen a flip with a 4050 size screen since... well, the 4050. Actually, I did see a Moto flip at the Sprint Store that had a real nice size display on it, obviously bigger than the 9000, I think it was a 870 something or other, but know nothing else about that phone. So anyway, how much memory can they stuff in these Micro SD's?

[Tigrrre]

1gb currently.

2gb in testing.

[johnny hotsauce]

Ok, Ok, disregard my great idea for a even smaller card, didn't know it was already being done, and I don't pay all that much attention to phones with other carriers. Needless to say I feel kinda goofy now. I didn't think the t809 was a flip phone. Some sliders have some real nice big screens on them, but I just can't relate to the slider/candybar thing. I'm a clam boy all the way, and can't stop wondering why we haven't seen a flip with a 4050 size screen since... well, the 4050. Actually, I did see a Moto flip at the Sprint Store that had a real nice size display on it, obviously bigger than the 9000, I think it was a 870 something or other, but know nothing else about that phone. So anyway, how much memory can they stuff in these Micro SD's?

It was the Motorola iDEN i870 for Nextel, great screen but definitely smaller screen size than the Sanyo MM-9000. The Moto takes MicroSD (transflash) and the Moto will work with the new 2 GB cards.

MM-9000/i870 (http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/compare.php?id%5B%5D=815&id%5B%5D=803&id%5B%5D=&id%5B%5D=&id%5B%5D=)

[RyanM]

That phone will sell like hotcakes especially considering all the low end newer Sanyo models I see people carrying around these days. As for me, I need alot more features to bring me to a new phone.

[KAT]

It was the Motorola iDEN i870 for Nextel, great screen but definitely smaller screen size than the Sanyo MM-9000. The Moto takes MicroSD (transflash) and the Moto will work with the new 2 GB cards.

MM-9000/i870 (http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/compare.php?id%5B%5D=815&id%5B%5D=803&id%5B%5D=&id%5B%5D=&id%5B%5D=)
Thanks for the comparison link, but I believe the 240 X 320, and 176 X 220 are pixel counts. I measured both screens with a measuring tape, and the i870's screen is not only taller than the 9000, but wider as well. It won't have the resolution the 9000 has, but still be bigger, but with less pixels. I was talking about the actual physical dimensions of the screens, not pixel count. The i870's screen reminded me of the 4050 size display.

[johnny hotsauce]

Thanks for the comparison link, but I believe the 240 X 320, and 176 X 220 are pixel counts. I measured both screens with a measuring tape, and the i870's screen is not only taller than the 9000, but wider as well. It won't have the resolution the 9000 has, but still be bigger, but with less pixels. I was talking about the actual physical dimensions of the screens, not pixel count. The i870's screen reminded me of the 4050 size display.

I may be wrong on this but I believe that the i870 is 2.2 in and the MM-9000 is 2.1 in. I remember my old i860 was 2.2 in as well and I believe that Moto used the same screen in the i870 and also in the i605. I actually thought it was a pretty decent screen but I must admit that the ones in my MM-9000 and MM-A900 blow it away in clarity.