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If Sprint does not get this thin(g) ASAP, it'll be a huge mistake. RAZR thin (0.5" ), QWERT keyboard, 4 hour talking. 320x240 screen (landscape!), Windows mobile 5:
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=856
A preview video there.
I no longer wait for the Treo 700P, but this one. Will Smsung also come out something like that soon? Maybe a year later (based on how long the A900 took).
Dave B.
03-17-2006, 01:29 AM
that is the ONLY PDA phone I would EVER even consider getting...
Matt
03-17-2006, 01:31 AM
It's hot, but it seems as though Verizon (evil red empire) will get it first.
reemusk
03-17-2006, 01:48 AM
I'd switch to the ERE if i had too, I.E. if that phone came to the V :)
rokclimbertx
03-17-2006, 02:21 AM
thats really nice.... mmmmmmmmm
Sonin66
03-17-2006, 02:31 AM
yea another company would get it before sprint would. there havnt been that many moto's come over to sprint since the old days
wow, you feel so strongly about that you posted it 3 times! :)
Ok, maybe the 700W, but I get the feeling there a lot of PalmOS folks out there that will not trade - that is unless Palm trades out for them!
sorry, got stuck with the back button
gla17624
03-17-2006, 02:34 PM
That phone does look pretty nice...
yea , like all motorolas, it "looks" nice, but inside it's held together by rubberbands and duct tape (if it's anything like other motorolas). it's ashame that motorola only makes phones that are poorly crafted and buggy. :hee:
stephinok
03-17-2006, 03:21 PM
With Sprint/Nextel, you will see more motorolas as Nextel was all motorola.
moosemanmoo
03-17-2006, 03:34 PM
If you look at size comparison pictures of it against the Treo, you can see that it's significantly wider. I already wish my Treo had a Blackberry 7100-ish keyboard so it wouldn't be as wide as it is now, but the Q seems like too much. Same goes for the Nokia E61.
Deval
03-17-2006, 03:35 PM
hmmm...if its anything like the Treo 700 from verizon, I'll pass...yeah its thin, and all, but from what I hear, since windows mobile 5 cant support QVGA screens, it will look like crap.
Fixup
03-17-2006, 05:01 PM
yea , like all motorolas, it "looks" nice, but inside it's held together by rubberbands and duct tape (if it's anything like other motorolas). it's ashame that motorola only makes phones that are poorly crafted and buggy. :hee:
That was exactly my comments about Samsung stuff. Samsung used to be very buggy too, but seems much better on this now, based on the A900 I just got. Played it a whole day and did not find any bug/crash, amazing. Let's hope Samsung will beat this one again.
It is only 8mm wider than Treo 650, not bad at all, but the landscape screen is much preferable. Still narrow enough for one-hand operation, assuming the keyboard and OS would do it right.
Xtremegene
03-17-2006, 05:11 PM
windows mobile 5 cant support QVGA screens, it will look like crap.
Where did you hear WM 5.0 does not support QVGA? I know for a fact that the Dell Axim x50 series, which originally came with WM 2003SE, could be upgraded to WM 5.0. While the high-end x50v was VGA, the lower end models were both QVGA. Similarly, the newer x51 series all come with WM 5.0, and still only the high-end x51v is VGA.
Anyways, it is sort of weird how Motorola likes thin yet wide things. Other than that, since it looks like the Q will use the smartphone version (?) of WM5, there isn't going to be stylus input either.
Deval
03-17-2006, 05:15 PM
Where did you hear WM 5.0 does not support QVGA? I know for a fact that the Dell Axim x50 series, which originally came with WM 2003SE, could be upgraded to WM 5.0. While the high-end x50v was VGA, the lower end models were both QVGA. Similarly, the newer x51 series all come with WM 5.0, and still only the high-end x51v is VGA.
Anyways, it is sort of weird how Motorola likes thin yet wide things. Other than that, since it looks like the Q will use the smartphone version (?) of WM5, there isn't going to be stylus input either.
according to a review I read, the reason the Treo700 didnt have a QVGA screen was a WM5 limition...could be wrong?
JRider
03-17-2006, 05:27 PM
according to a review I read, the reason the Treo700 didnt have a QVGA screen was a WM5 limition...could be wrong?
I actually think it's because it couldn't support 320x320. I could be wrong as well though.
Deval
03-17-2006, 05:43 PM
ohh...just wondering...I dont know...not my cup of tea (smart phones) too much of a pda, and not enough of a phone, if you ask me (i've used treos and 6700s)
Fixup
03-17-2006, 08:29 PM
"since it looks like the Q will use the smartphone version (?) of WM5, there isn't going to be stylus input either."
Nice, I never liked the stypus thing. Now I'm sure I'm waiting for this one not the 700P. The only thing I worried about the Q was one-hand operation. If it does not use a stylus at all, that's no more a concern.
Thank Microsoft for dropping the stylus. I know this is a hard thing for Palm, because stylus is its symbol.
Tigrrre
03-17-2006, 08:30 PM
*cough* quality control *cough*
Yay4Juggs
03-17-2006, 08:32 PM
fyi...my 6700 is qvga
Tigrrre
03-17-2006, 08:38 PM
and so are both my a800, and a900 :D
Deval
03-17-2006, 11:10 PM
fyi...my 6700 is qvga
True
dfwtxpatrick
03-18-2006, 08:14 AM
There's no Treo killer here!
I just did a side by side comparison on Phonescoop. The Q phone vs the 700w.
What I see is not making me want the Q phone. Whats so funny is that the original PDA phone from SPCS was called the Q phone as well, it was a hunk of junk!
While the Q phone is thinner than the treo 700. It is wider and a smidge taller than the Treo. And the overall screen is smaller. The Treo lists to have a longer talk time and standby time as well.
I know when I get the chance to upgrade to the Treo 700, the Q phone wont be a consideration in any way for me.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Fixup
03-20-2006, 01:34 AM
Some similar thinking here.
While I was thinking about going to Q, something show up for me to miss my Treo 650:
1) Some must-to-have applications that are only for Palm OS and/or Treo:
mVoiceMail, the only program that can play GSM voice messages. I use J2 for free Fax and voice messages. As far as I know, there is no GSM player for Windows Mobile and PPC.
XIINO, this is the only web browser that opens a web page in no time. It is not perfect or the best, but once I'm spoiled by its speed, I use other broswers only for those pages that Xiino cannot handle well.
eDiary, this freeware makes it so easy to record anything I want to in my daily life.
Dir Assist, a mobile yellow book.
ChatterMail or SnapperMail, I don't know anything like those in WM and PPC.
....
2) Thoughtful design in every detail. The Q looks good, but, as someone already pointed out, what's inside is still unknown. If the Mot designers are not as thoughtful as Handspring, then there is no way for me to trade my Treo.
I just wish Palm will not put any stupid thing into 700P, just make it a 650+EVDO. The 700W does not allow BT DUN, how stupid is that!
josh33_unc
04-18-2006, 10:00 AM
samsung version you ask for?
samsung sgh-I320 for cingular
http://img.phonescoop.com/img/n/1589_186x250.jpg
http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=1589
compared to motorola Q for verizon
http://img.phonescoop.com/img/n/1299_200x400.jpg
http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=1299
Jaggrey
04-18-2006, 10:42 AM
according to a review I read, the reason the Treo700 didnt have a QVGA screen was a WM5 limition...could be wrong?
I read that it wasn't so much WM5 didn't support the resolution, but something like more apps would run in the 240x240 than 320x320. Further, the next upgrade for screens would be 480x480 and not 640x640.
itll kill a treo before a blackberry
You think the Blackberry is better that the treo? My girlfriend has a blackberry, and my buddies girl has a Treo, there's no comaparison IMO, the Treo seems way nicer in almost every way, but that's just personal opinion I guess.
slypher
04-18-2006, 07:42 PM
nice phone, but definitely not a treo killer. it doesn't have a touchscreen, its considered a smartphone. and we all know how moto is when it comes to new phones.
i really like the way it looks though.
Merlyn_3D
04-18-2006, 08:35 PM
It won't be a treo killer until they pull that windows mobile crap off there.
OKSOONERFAN
04-18-2006, 08:53 PM
ok I have to ask? what is it about WM5 that makes folks so upset? I am seriously waiting for the treo 700 to come out, and I am not familiar with Palm os. I need the functionality of wi-fi, true browsers like IE or Opera (can it go on a treo) and e-mail, as well as BT and a variety of things like the ability to play media. I do not think the Palm version can do that, can it.?
slypher
04-18-2006, 09:44 PM
i have a treo now, however i'm in the process of making the switch to wm5. i have to be honest, there is not nearly as much software available on the wm5 as the palm os. granted the wm5 devices may be more powerful, but i don't think they are more flexible....yet. don't get me wrong i love my treo. but there are some phone features that it just can't do, bluetooth voicedialing being the main one. so i am gonna try the 6700 (not selling the treo yet though). but as far as playing media, email, and BT (music and phone use NOT voicedialing) the treo does a really good job handling those tasks. just my two cents.
holan
04-18-2006, 09:47 PM
yea , like all motorolas, it "looks" nice, but inside it's held together by rubberbands and duct tape (if it's anything like other motorolas). it's ashame that motorola only makes phones that are poorly crafted and buggy. :hee:
Have you ever taken apart phones?
I have taken apart Motorla phone for T-mobile and Nextel for housing exchange or part replace ment.
Just to let you know, you are both correct and incorect.
Based on what I've seen. The entry level phones, are really crappy.
The high end phones, especially with nextel, are built solid.
Buggy, can't argue with you on that. But hey there's always warranty.
Well, I can't live without touchscreen. Had a black berry once. Loved it. It was usable, but it wasn't the same.
Merlyn_3D
04-18-2006, 09:51 PM
ok I have to ask? what is it about WM5 that makes folks so upset? I am seriously waiting for the treo 700 to come out, and I am not familiar with Palm os. I need the functionality of wi-fi, true browsers like IE or Opera (can it go on a treo) and e-mail, as well as BT and a variety of things like the ability to play media. I do not think the Palm version can do that, can it.?
The software just feels incomplete. When you use the treo, it's like a complete package. Everything out of the box is so easy to use, quick, and has a pretty UI. Windows mobile, on the other hand, feels like MS just went 80% of the way then stopped caring about UI. The UI just stinks. Other features (slightly better stability, multiple apps at once) are commendable, but first and foremost, you have to think about UI, and how someone's gonna navigate the device.
PalmOS treo's are so finely tuned so that you can navigate to every feature with just one hand.
holan
04-18-2006, 10:30 PM
mVoiceMail, the only program that can play GSM voice messages. I use J2 for free Fax and voice messages. As far as I know, there is no GSM player for Windows Mobile and PPC.
http://www.motionapps.com/products.jsp?mvm
I may be mistaken. But it looks like it has for WM. As a side note, more and more software companies are starting to develop for both OS's
XIINO, this is the only web browser that opens a web page in no time. It is not perfect or the best, but once I'm spoiled by its speed, I use other broswers only for those pages that Xiino cannot handle well.
Can't argue with that. Then again, I haven't tried the MANY alternative web browsers for Pocket PC. Not to mention, I also upgraded to my phone because of wifi and EVDO.
eDiary, this freeware makes it so easy to record anything I want to in my daily life.
PPC has DKDiary.
Dir Assist, a mobile yellow book.
PPC Version - Direct Assist http://www.imate.com/p-8219-direct-assist.aspx
I have still to test this . I wonder if it as good as Palm Dir Assist. I saw a lot of OTHER ppc software which was subscription based. But the website above jus like your Palm dir assist has no subscription.
ChatterMail or SnapperMail, I don't know anything like those in WM and PPC.
Yes Push E-mail is big. This was a major selling point when I sold Blackberry's for T-Mobile and Nextel. IT made blackberry users, "crackberry" users.
Here is the solutions for Pocket PC.
(1) Microsoft Exchange Server. Do you own one? Probably not. BUt hell with Blackberry you would have to spend Big $$$ to have it be able to link with Exchange.
With PALM, heck it's near impossible.
Why Exchange? Secure E-Mail, The ability to Wipe off all confidential information on your phone if it, and the ability to synchronize my tasks wirelessly.
Heres the answer you were looking for...
(2) http://www.space2go.com/faces/index.jsp
Yup just like SnapperMail or Chatter Mail
....
I just wish Palm will not put any stupid thing into 700P, just make it a 650+EVDO. The 700W does not allow BT DUN, how stupid is that!
Processing Speed of the equipment such as pc or pda is another factor of internet speed.
As for BT DUN, There is a registry hack that works with HTC phones like the 6700 which is WM5 based. not sure if it'll work for the 700.
There I've done all the research for you.
Closing:
Please don't flame me. I'm jus an open-minded person.
I've owned the following Palm OS devices:
Sony Clie Monochrome. Sony Clie Color. Samsung i300. Samsung i330.
I owned a blackberry.
I LOVED Palm. and yes I hated Microsoft. In fact I came up with stupid things like the PPC doesn't utilize the grafitti pad of writing. more and more mIcrosoft finds solutions. Why? So they can make money.
Like a Windows OS, you'll see it on more handsets. Look Motorola, Samsung, HTC, and More (Including The infamous Treo)
Because of this, programs that was once palm specific are more readily available for the Pocket PC. If not by the same company, another company will capitalize on that.
Key point: Microsoft can tie their products to other products. The fact that it utilized Microsoft Exchange blew my mind. I liked the Pocket MS Office on my OPPC more than I likd on my pal. Yes there is a difference.
I feel for you. i really do. it took a long time for me to let go of WordPerfect, Eudora, Linux, Novell, and more. I'm not saying Microsoft is the best (I am currently using firefox for my browser). All I'm saying is to study trends, look for alternatives, keep an open mind, and never pick a fight that you can't win.
MacPCS
04-18-2006, 11:40 PM
how can you have a "Treo killer" that doesn't have a touch screen, has a lower-res screen than a treo, and runs WinMo?
answer: YOU CAN'T!
tbakergobuck
04-19-2006, 12:44 AM
I think when the 6700 first came out a lot of people complained that you couldn't use it one handed but now you can do a lot more one handed. I'm using the Treo 700 picture speed dial on my 6700's today screen which is very easy to use one handed and makes texting faster because it has a texting option in the drop down box.
gutterkizmet
04-19-2006, 07:47 AM
I would want this phone if it folded in half .... why doesn't anyone make clamshells anymore?
tbakergobuck
04-19-2006, 11:00 AM
I would want this phone if it folded in half .... why doesn't anyone make clamshells anymore?Would be nice but couldn't have the nice keyboard. I don't care how dust particles stick on the display. A flip pda would be nice and more compact.
krudl3r
04-19-2006, 10:16 PM
Video of Q (and other motos).
http://www.slashphone.com/118/4137.html
And what's all this talk about WM5 can't do QVGA??? Geez.
Fixup
04-19-2006, 11:04 PM
Holan, thank you so much, saving me lots of time to search for the corresponding apps for WM5.
mVoice is made by motionapps, and yes, they are porting it to 700W.
mail2web gives you a free Exchanger account that allows you to push everything (email, datebook, tasks etc.) to WM5 devices. The web interface is the best I've seen so far. With mail2web, you can do email everywhere you go, on a WM device or on a desktop, and for free. I feel so sorry for those who still pay monthly fee for Blackberry etc. Just this great free service alone gives me enough reason to switch to WM.
I fully agree: you cannot pick up a fight that you cannot win. If WM offers more features and lower cost, why not go for it? Even Palm itself has switched and made the 700"W".
MacPCS
04-20-2006, 02:02 AM
so on WinMo how are you actually supposed to use it one-handed? and gotta love how the touch-screen input is just fantastic on that OS... and stupid bugs like the DST one? gimme a break.
Jaggrey
04-20-2006, 08:48 AM
Palm hasn't "switched"... they're still producing Palm OS devices. They're just doing what every good company should do - giving people what they want (in this case Treo form factor with WM5).
gutterkizmet
04-25-2006, 12:40 PM
Would be nice but couldn't have the nice keyboard. I don't care how dust particles stick on the display. A flip pda would be nice and more compact.
Why couldn't you have the nice keyboard? Just make it fold between the keyboard and the screen (see the Samsung i-500 or Treo 300) and adjust all the sizes accordingly. I dont care if folded it is larger than a standard flip phone - it is a PDA! - but I also don't want the screen and keyboard exposed.
I had an i-300 in my pocket a few years ago and while carying something I jammed the corner of a box into the screen - causing major damage. I used a treo 650 for a while, but the keyguard annoyed the hell out of me. I couln't leave it off or I would do stuff on accident in my pocket, and when on I hated using the device.
JUST MAKE A FLIP!!!!!
gutterkizmet
04-25-2006, 12:45 PM
by the way in response to the PM I received ...
The phone in my avatar is not a version of this Q phone it is the Qualcomm Q that was out on Sprint back in 1997. It was like a Motorola StarTax only on Sprint long before Sprint had the StarTac. Qualcomm actually got sued over the design. The phone was $600, came with 2 batteries, and even with both fully charged it was hard to get through the day!
Before I left my employment with Sprint just over 2 years ago (I was there over 5 years), I was in the process of trying to amass a collection of a functional phone of every model Sprint had released, and the Q phone was one of the only phones remaining I did not have. When I left in January 04, I stopped my collection.
Jaggrey
04-25-2006, 01:21 PM
Do u still have all those phones?
reemusk
04-25-2006, 05:59 PM
I smell a TP bonanza!
If you got a G1000....
gutterkizmet
05-03-2006, 09:33 AM
Do u still have all those phones?
I actually left them in my office in a nice display set-up for the rest of my team. The only ones I kept were the ones that I actually had used or paid for... so yes I still do have a bunch of them collecting dust, but the majority were ones I scavenged from returns, or demo's ... who knows what happened to them in the 2.5 years since I left...
SaltyDawg
05-03-2006, 11:41 AM
Sprint is seriously slacking in the phone department! What happened to Sprint? Sprint used to always have the coolest phones... Now Sprint is way behind the times. Especially in the PDA department...
This Q phone is going to Verizon? And Cingular is getting a similar Samsung? Where is Sprint in all of this?
Verizon already HAS a Treo 700w, they're also getting the same Treo 700p that Sprint is getting. They also already have the PPC-6700 that Sprint has. And they have that Samsung i730 as well. Now we find out they're getting this q phone too?
What the heck is Sprint doing? We have ONE PPC phone- the same 6700 that everyone else has, and ONE Treo- the older 650 that everyone else already has. Sprint better get on the ball here. These cheap data plans don't mean a d@mn thing if there aren't any nice phones...
ocanyc
05-03-2006, 01:11 PM
I'm really looking for a PDA phone from sprint, since I'm a customer but they are lacking. This Motorola Q pda phone is very pretty, but come on. I mean if any PDA phone has the Windows OS on it with no Wifi, well then that just dont make no sense. Anyway, I would've been jealous of verizon if I knew this thing had Wifi but it dont. Hope sprint brings in the new shipment real soon, or I may just leave.
morningstar1844
05-03-2006, 07:29 PM
It's hot, but it seems as though Verizon (evil red empire) will get it first.
some people say that Sprint does not get the same phones as Verizon. But of course this is not true with the Palm Treo's
Jaggrey
05-03-2006, 07:48 PM
I think with Palms it's a lil different since they don't pump out a bunch of phones a year like Samsung and LG do.
neogina
05-03-2006, 08:02 PM
This sammy looks cool for a PDA but its for verizon again ? what happened to sprint??!
some people say that Sprint does not get the same phones as Verizon. But of course this is not true with the Palm Treo's
Sprint and Verizon also had the exact same PPC-6600, and the only difference in the 6700 is the color. Well, actually, the Verizon PPC-6600 has EVDO, and the Verizon 6700 has Picture Mail.
Sprint is REALLY slacking lately. Other carriers are getting more phones. In fact, other carriers are getting all the phones Sprint has plus more. And to make it even worse for Sprint, when the other carriers get the same phones as Sprint, the other carriers have more features on them...
the2ndflood
05-03-2006, 08:11 PM
If Sprint does not get this thin(g) ASAP, it'll be a huge mistake. RAZR thin (0.5" ), QWERT keyboard, 4 hour talking. 320x240 screen (landscape!), Windows mobile 5:
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=856
A preview video there.
I no longer wait for the Treo 700P, but this one. Will Smsung also come out something like that soon? Maybe a year later (based on how long the A900 took).
The Moto Q is a nice PDA, but it's no Treo killer. Not even close.
bluecoyote
06-11-2006, 01:26 PM
I used this the other day while deciding whether or not to keep my PPC 6700. If this phone was out on Sprint I'd buy it in a heartbeat. While Windows Mobile is still a junky OS, it is far less headache inducing than Pocket PC (though not nearly as geeky.) In fact, much of it felt more on par with a Series 60 smartphone. The phone itself feels a little cheap, but they all pretty much do (and what's up with the Blackberry 7130 feeling like it's hollow?)
The OS is reasonably nicely done, which is a bit of a surprise. It handles QVGA well.
Is this a Treo Killer? Maybe the Treo 700W Killer, but that's about as far as I'd go. It's still running Windows Mobile, and you still can't quit applications.
I can imagine leaving Sprint for it, but wouldn't recommend it. If you're hellbent on Windows Mobile and/or, it's probably the way to go, but this thing still falls well short of anything S60 (especially the gold-standard E61 on GSM) If you're going to leave Sprint for a smartphone, that's where I'd go.
And it's not a Blackberry killer.
MacPCS
06-11-2006, 03:05 PM
it's not an anything killer. it runs Windows Mobile SMARTPHONE! not even Pocket PC!
also no touch-screen, low internal memory, low res display (QVGA is soooo regular-phone, throwing that **** on a PDA Phone is just cheap.
Malatesta
06-11-2006, 03:13 PM
it's not an anything killer. it runs Windows Mobile SMARTPHONE! not even Pocket PC!
also no touch-screen, low internal memory, low res display (QVGA is soooo regular-phone, throwing that **** on a PDA Phone is just cheap.
yeah but it's BT works with most devices, it doesn't crash, it doesn't reset it doesn't get the White Screen of Death, it doesn't cost more than it's really worth, can do slingbox and it actually gets real evdo speeds, not p*ssy 300 kb. :lol:
most importantly: doesn't have annoying fanboys.
Deval
06-11-2006, 06:18 PM
***...wait it doesnt have windows mobile 5?
FloorMatt
06-11-2006, 06:26 PM
***...wait it doesnt have windows mobile 5?
Who said that?
It has Windows Mobile Smartphone Edition (which I'm guessing they're considering it at "5", as well) Smartphone = No Touchscreen and no Pocket Office apps (other than Outlook); it's meant to be a smartPHONE.....so, made to use one handed.....you hope.
PPC-6700 (and others) have Windows Mobile Pocket PC Edition.......and I don't guess I have to explain that. :)
tbakergobuck
06-11-2006, 07:25 PM
yeah but it's BT works with most devices, it doesn't crash, it doesn't reset it doesn't get the White Screen of Death, it doesn't cost more than it's really worth, can do slingbox and it actually gets real evdo speeds, not p*ssy 300 kb. :lol:
most importantly: doesn't have annoying fanboys.:good:
I'm just waiting for Sprint to get a somewhat compact pda/cell phone that hopefully is a flip. :fingers:
Malatesta
06-11-2006, 07:35 PM
:good:
I'm just waiting for Sprint to get a somewhat compact pda/cell phone that hopefully is a flip. :fingers:
yeah, I'm not sure about a flip anytime soon though I'll certainly keepy my eyes open. I think the "flip pda" market is kinda dead due to the limitation on the screen sizez that are possible.
bluecoyote
06-11-2006, 08:03 PM
Yeah, the form factor of the Q (really, the Blackberry form factor) is definitely appealing for those who want something as convenient as a phone but as powerful as a Pocket PC, which isn't met by full-blown Pocket PC devices.
The problem is as Floormatt said, they neuter a lot of the functionality of the OS- a little ridiculous considering how Palm and Nokia give practically a full office suite with theirs.
Windows Mobile works, just not very well. Palm still has a much better UI but for the love of criminy, OS5 is getting horribly dated for power users (I really loved the Palm OS, too, but Multitasking is long overdue, as is protected memory and a real file structure.) Here's to hoping the Nokia-Sanyo partnership gives us some Symbian phones so Palm, Windows Mobile / Pocket PC can be trotted out back and shot between the eyes.
Ndprunner22
06-11-2006, 08:26 PM
i heard its not touchscreen, which means i will never be touching it for purchase
Deval
06-11-2006, 08:36 PM
ok thats garbage...I'll take a 6700
Jaggrey
06-11-2006, 08:37 PM
i heard its not touchscreen, which means i will never be touching it for purchase
right... none of the Windows Mobile Smartphone Edition phones have touchscreen.
bluecoyote
06-11-2006, 08:43 PM
Touch screens do not belong on phones. They don't serve much of a purpose if the one-handed-operation is implemented correctly. The most asinine part of the 6700 is that a stylus (or thumb) is necessary to navigate things like the call logs.
Also, the Q is a much better phone than the 6700, which is awkward to use as a phone (god I hate going through touch-tone phone menus... you try to enter something and realize the phone screen isn't up) . Those used to using a normal phone will feel far more at home. I'd take one over the 6700 because I found Windows Mobile 5 Smartphone edition to be far, far, FAR faster than WM5 Pocket PC. But the same problems still exist (no way to quit applications without hacking or going to the control panel)
Deval
06-11-2006, 08:44 PM
For those who would want a PDA phone, lack of touch screen sucks monkey butt
bluecoyote
06-11-2006, 08:48 PM
The best PDA phones I've used don't have them (Nokia 9500, E61) or don't need them at all (SE P910). I highly doubt any Blackberry users are clamoring for a more Pocket PC or Treo-like experience requiring a stylus.
That is a dated method of input not necessary for 99% of mobile application uses. It was fine in the days of handwriting but with built-in thumboards they are no longer necessary.
Deval
06-11-2006, 08:49 PM
For you perhaps...but others who use PDA phones always like a touch screen
bluecoyote
06-11-2006, 08:57 PM
Someone objectively justify a situation where having two hands tied to the cell phone/pda and ALSO requiring a separate pointing device is better than one handed operation correctly implemented, because I can't name a single instance in the course of using the device I preferred it over OHO.
Exceptions exist if you're working with say, a CAD document on your handheld, but I get the feeling I'm the only person on this forum who does that.
SaltyDawg
06-11-2006, 10:13 PM
Someone objectively justify a situation where having two hands tied to the cell phone/pda and ALSO requiring a separate pointing device is better than one handed operation correctly implemented, because I can't name a single instance in the course of using the device I preferred it over OHO.
Exceptions exist if you're working with say, a CAD document on your handheld, but I get the feeling I'm the only person on this forum who does that.
Good grief man, just stop. You may very well not want or need a touch screen. Good for you. Everyone has their own opinion and needs. Yours may very well be valid for you, but that doesn't mean everyone else shares them.
You say Blackberry users aren't interestred in using a Windows Mobile or Palm device? Well I'm guessing there aren't too many Windows Mobile or Palm users interested in using a Blackberry either.
Oh, and as for your example of what people could possibly use a touchscreen for? I have a pretty nice home studio where I make music. I also use a program called Griff (http://www.planetgriff.com/) to make music on my PDA (phone). It's more of a sketch pad where I quickly save ideas and then make the track on the studio at home. But none the less, it requires a touch screen. There's NO WAY it could work without a touch screen. Well, maybe it could work without one, but it wouldn't be anywhere near as efficient. Heck, it probably wouldn't even be usable.
So, again, don't assume the whole world thinks and acts like you. Everyone is different and we all have our own individual needs and preferences. A lot of us need a touch screen. A lot of us actually prefer a touch screen. You may not, and that's fine. That's exactly why MS makes the smartphone OS, and the Pocket PC OS.
Deval
06-11-2006, 10:43 PM
hear hear!
Anyone whos an avid treo user will tell you that having a touch screen is great when you need it...for games, etc....try playing bejeweled without a touch screen...its harder
jschu22
06-11-2006, 10:47 PM
While I dont make use of the TS very often (even those that dont like the device have to admit how well it works without a stylus) I wouldnt want to give it up.
cac9478
06-11-2006, 10:50 PM
Good grief man, just stop. You may very well not want or need a touch screen. Good for you. Everyone has their own opinion and needs. Yours may very well be valid for you, but that doesn't mean everyone else shares them.
You say Blackberry users aren't interestred in using a Windows Mobile or Palm device? Well I'm guessing there aren't too many Windows Mobile or Palm users interested in using a Blackberry either.
Oh, and as for your example of what people could possibly use a touchscreen for? I have a pretty nice home studio where I make music. I also use a program called Griff (http://www.planetgriff.com/) to make music on my PDA (phone). It's more of a sketch pad where I quickly save ideas and then make the track on the studio at home. But none the less, it requires a touch screen. There's NO WAY it could work without a touch screen. Well, maybe it could work without one, but it wouldn't be anywhere near as efficient. Heck, it probably wouldn't even be usable.
So, again, don't assume the whole world thinks and acts like you. Everyone is different and we all have our own individual needs and preferences. A lot of us need a touch screen. A lot of us actually prefer a touch screen. You may not, and that's fine. That's exactly why MS makes the smartphone OS, and the Pocket PC OS.
Well said!!! I personally love having a touchscreen. I remember I switced to an A900 for about a week and got rid of it because i would constantly touch the screen on it because I can get where I need to go faster. How are you supposed to sketch things out without a touchscreen. You cannot draw something on the Q. For me to consider something a smartphone it must have a touch screen, cause if not it is just a dumb phone with a fancy OS.
Malatesta
06-11-2006, 11:37 PM
The problem is as Floormatt said, they neuter a lot of the functionality of the OS- a little ridiculous considering how Palm and Nokia give practically a full office suite with theirs.
How do the neuter a lot of the functionality? Just not having Office (which I barely ever use?). I mean, if you know you need office on the phone then you can do two things:
1) by a different phone
or
2) use a 3rd party office application which even MS recommends if you need it
problem solved.
as far as the ever-so-tired "one handed use" thing this is complete garbage. Just buy (for a whopping $7.99) AE Button Plus (http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=21070) to remap your buttons in 2 minutes. For instance my "OK" button works like this:
single click: minimize current program
double click: close current program
triple click: task manager to switch between current apps
for more functionality that is both easy and free to setup just look in this thread (http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100485)
I use my 6700 98% of the time one-handed, no stylus and spent less than $20 on it. Furthermore, for those of us who'v used PPC 2002/2203, using a stylus is both second nature and fast and I actually prefer it sometime.
Freak4Dell
06-11-2006, 11:53 PM
I agree with most people here that this is definately not even close to being a Treo killer. I don't like the Treos because of the keyboard being exposed like that, but I'd take a Treo over the Q anyday. The combination of width and thinness just seems like it would make it really annoying to hold when making a call. The only reason I feel comfortable holding my a900 over the RAZR is because it's slightly narrower. The only reason I think it won't be too bad holding a 6700 during a call is because the thickness would fill my hand in.
I agree with Deval as far as the touchscreen goes. A PDA phone without a touchscreen is just retarded. Samsung might as well put WMSP on the a900 or the a920, and sell it for $200 more than it is already. Sanyo could implement it into their 9000s to make more profit. As long as that phone doesn't have a touchscreen, it's not a PDA phone to me. If it doesn't have Pocket Office, it's not a PDA phone. If it doesn't have the capabilities of a computer, it's not a PDA phone. I don't care if you have WM5 or Palm OS. Both of those can run office applications, which reassures that it's a PDA. Both the Treos and the 6700s are basically tiny computers, especially the 6700, which makes it more reassuring that it's a PDA.
Basically, I think this phone looks like crap, seems like it would feel like crap, and the OS is most definately crap. Hence, the phone is crap. I hope Sprint sticks with Treos and HTC devices.
jschu22
06-12-2006, 12:01 AM
This thread (which is 3 months old I might add) has almost become irrelevant for two reasons- Its based on something that was speculation at the time, and in reality time will most likely tell that it will "kill" nothing and this has become almost exclusively about Windows vs Palm, like every thread Malatesta puts his username in. Despite what you say, its fanboy against fanboy and do not even attempt to take the victim route, its a waste of time. That doesnt mean your wrong. You prefer the Windows-based devices and others prefer a Palm device. Thats why we have the choice, not because some people are stupid and others arent.
Freak4Dell
06-12-2006, 12:09 AM
Haha, yeah, you're right.
I wasn't really arguing Palm vs. Windows, though. Mine was more Windows vs. crappy Windows.
Malatesta
06-12-2006, 12:52 AM
I somewhat expected an enthusiastic reply, but not this. There was nothing close to an attack such as this to you, just merely an opinion based on what I have read of your posts. Even if misrepresented by me, it was not deserving of that reply.
My appologies then as I was taking this part:
and this has become almost exclusively about Windows vs Palm, like every thread Malatesta puts his username in.
fairly personal and went on to think that "you" in the rest of that post was referring to me which, yes I was somewhat offended at.
However, I was clearly over reacting and for that I sincerely appologize. :hug:
moderators should feel free to delete my post above.
crogs
06-12-2006, 12:59 AM
don't feel like reading through 6 pages to see if it was mentioned, but this is not a treo killer. This is only a glorified i600. You still can't edit documents, only view them. And a touchscreen makes editing anything that much easier. The combination of a touchscreen w/stylus and d-pad nav make for an extremely functional device. Plus you can't use all the apps from wm5 either. Smartphones are very limited in functionality compared to WM5 devices. If you just want to send and receive emails and text messages then great, but as people mentioned it is more of a blackberry killer than a treo killer.
jschu22
06-12-2006, 01:06 AM
My appologies then as I was taking this part:
fairly personal and went on to think that "you" in the rest of that post was referring to me which, yes I was somewhat offended at.
However, I was clearly over reacting and for that I sincerely appologize. :hug:
moderators should feel free to delete my post above.
Like I said, I expected some response from you, but I wasnt planning on something heated because I wasnt meaning to attack you. In reading many of your posts it was my opinion that you have a definite preference (which is fine) and that preference is shared and not shared by an almost equal amount of users here, suggesting that there wasnt a "fanboy" issue for one particular side. That being said, regardless of how significant, my post was a catalyst in bringing out your reply so I share some of the blame.
FloorMatt
06-12-2006, 01:52 AM
*grabs the peace pipe*
Palm OS, WinMo, Touchscreen/Pocket PC, and Non-Touchscreen/Smartphone people! HEAR ME OUT.
First off, each OS has a fanbase. I prefer Palm OS.....however, I'm not opposed to WinMo (and may try a WinMo phone someday).
Second......there are reasons that Smartphones exist. There are those that don't care about a touchscreen (for one) because they're looking for something more phone-like. HOWEVER, they'd like to have a little extra "power" in the mobile computing department; not enough to be a "Pocket PC", but enough to do some browsing and e-mail (effectively) plus other organizer abilities. All of that, possibly linked to a computer (as your base).
Pocket PC people want to go the extra mile; they want that PC for the road (that isn't the size of a laptop) that they can be productive with. Not only e-mail, browsing, and organizing, but also: Word Processing, Spreadsheets, Slideshows, and perhaps....the sky's the limit (depending on your occupation)......it could be anything.
Take a look at BlackBerry people; none of their devices have a touchscreen. Why? They're all about portable communication, but with organization on the side. It's catering to certain groups of people
For me, my PDA that I've had for over 2 years (the Sony CLIE UX50) has stopped working; this has gotten me to look at the other possibilities out there. I have been wanting to wait until "the one" comes out.....and I think I may still.
My PDA was unique......it acted pretty much like a laptop to me, however, I felt that too many things relied on the touchscreen. And for what I do with the PDA, I know that the touchscreen will not be something I NEED; in fact, it hindered me. (I know the Treos have this problem solved, for the most part) This has gotten me thinking that I would prefer more of a Smartphone device w/ QWERTY. I'd hope it be a blend of both worlds (smartphone, plus some productivity......I'd like to have at least Word and maybe Excel); from the way I've been using my PDA....an enhanced Smartphone seems to fit me. The only problem is, I have to wait for one to be released for Sprint. :p And in reality, I could do without actual Word (editing) support; but I would like a Notepad at minimum.
So, there. :hee: Pardon the longwind.
josh33_unc
06-12-2006, 02:04 AM
Wirelessly posted (the rolltide treo 650: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/hspr-H102; Blazer/4.0) 16;320x320)
*grabs the peace pipe*
Palm OS, WinMo, Touchscreen/Pocket PC, and Non-Touchscreen/Smartphone people! HEAR ME OUT.
First off, each OS has a fanbase. I prefer Palm OS.....however, I'm not opposed to WinMo (and may try a WinMo phone someday).
Second......there are reasons that Smartphones exist. There are those that don't care about a touchscreen (for one) because they're looking for something more phone-like. HOWEVER, they'd like to have a little extra "power" in the mobile computing department; not enough to be a "Pocket PC", but enough to do some browsing and e-mail (effectively) plus other organizer abilities. All of that, possibly linked to a computer (as your base).
Pocket PC people want to go the extra mile; they want that PC for the road (that isn't the size of a laptop) that they can be productive with. Not only e-mail, browsing, and organizing, but also: Word Processing, Spreadsheets, Slideshows, and perhaps....the sky's the limit (depending on your occupation)......it could be anything.
Take a look at BlackBerry people; none of their devices have a touchscreen. Why? They're all about portable communication, but with organization on the side. It's catering to certain groups of people
For me, my PDA that I've had for over 2 years (the Sony CLIE UX50) has stopped working; this has gotten me to look at the other possibilities out there. I have been wanting to wait until "the one" comes out.....and I think I may still.
My PDA was unique......it acted pretty much like a laptop to me, however, I felt that too many things relied on the touchscreen. And for what I do with the PDA, I know that the touchscreen will not be something I NEED; in fact, it hindered me. (I know the Treos have this problem solved, for the most part) This has gotten me thinking that I would prefer more of a Smartphone device w/ QWERTY. I'd hope it be a blend of both worlds (smartphone, plus some productivity......I'd like to have at least Word and maybe Excel); from the way I've been using my PDA....an enhanced Smartphone seems to fit me. The only problem is, I have to wait for one to be released for Sprint. :p And in reality, I could do without actual Word (editing) support; but I would like a Notepad at minimum.
So, there. :hee: Pardon the longwind.
word...good LONG posting
MacPCS
06-12-2006, 02:56 AM
yeah but it's BT works with most devices, it doesn't crash, it doesn't reset it doesn't get the White Screen of Death, it doesn't cost more than it's really worth, can do slingbox and it actually gets real evdo speeds, not p*ssy 300 kb. :lol:
most importantly: doesn't have annoying fanboys.
BT works just fine on the treo, and it's definitely not been crash prone for me either. got no WSOD. I didn't pay more than it was worth, and the speeds are perfectly fine.
as for the fanboys.... www.qusers.com ;)
and for TV, I've got Sprint TV which is enough :p
plus the Q is stuck on verizon, can't run WinMo apps unless they're specifically written for smartphone edition (read: none of them) so again, Q wins...what?
Sonic22
06-12-2006, 05:05 AM
sprint is going to carry the motorola Q dont know when but they are and also sprint will not ever carry the samsung A960. Sprint did not want to carry it thats why bestby carries it.
bluecoyote
06-12-2006, 06:54 PM
How do the neuter a lot of the functionality? Just not having Office (which I barely ever use?). I mean, if you know you need office on the phone then you can do two things:
1) by a different phone
or
2) use a 3rd party office application which even MS recommends if you need it
problem solved.
as far as the ever-so-tired "one handed use" thing this is complete garbage. Just buy (for a whopping $7.99) AE Button Plus (http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=21070) to remap your buttons in 2 minutes. For instance my "OK" button works like this:
single click: minimize current program
double click: close current program
triple click: task manager to switch between current apps
for more functionality that is both easy and free to setup just look in this thread (http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100485)
I use my 6700 98% of the time one-handed, no stylus and spent less than $20 on it. Furthermore, for those of us who'v used PPC 2002/2203, using a stylus is both second nature and fast and I actually prefer it sometime.
But that's the thing... why should I pay to fix things MS got wrong with the OS? As behind-the-times as the Palm OS has become, even it's not this stupid. There's not even a contextual menu option to quit, and I'd buy Microsoft's "we manage your memory automatically" BS if they actually did it transparently to the user. Heck, there's no quick way to even see what you have running without a hack (and magicbutton requires a stylus- wonderful, because when i'm in a hurry and want to quit applications, I surely have time to fish out my stylus and stare down at the screen. Oh yeah.)
I'm not saying a touchscreen is useless on a phone, but excellent OHO beats half-hearted OHO+touchscreen any day of the week for 99.9999% of phone users. Again, you are lying if you seriously mean to tell me dialing phone numbers or going through voicemail menus on your 6700 is anywhere near as convenient as say, the Motorola Q. Actually, i'm not sure how the PPC6700's in-phone setup could get any worse. Again, I'm not saying the touch screen is useless, but no OS should rely on it. WM5 and to a lesser extent Palm (mostly older legacy apps) still do, and that's simply unprofessional. Symbian can do it, MS should be able to too. Why they can't graft in commands for legacy apps is beyond me, but it's not like we should expect forward thinking from MS.
MS only has two OS's because they're both half-assed attempts (it's Microsoft) , and neither is good enough to cover the whole market, because each was really a lame attempt to copy a trail someone else explored (Pocket PC with Palm, Windows Smartphone with S60.) So now instead of having one loser mobile OS, it has two! But this is EVDO and it's what we've got, and it could always be worse.
In all fairness, Pocket PC gets the job done- it doesn't need the frequent resets my Tungsten C did, and MS treats its customers a little better than Palm did (ask anyone with an OS 4.x device or lower how they feel about having their web browsers shut off) , and given proper coaxing, is livable.
I just try not to think of the little b*stards at Cingular with a 9500.
Deval
06-12-2006, 06:57 PM
As long as you believe your opinion, thats cool...but don't be ignorant to other's choices/reasons
Jaggrey
06-12-2006, 08:48 PM
As long as you believe your opinion, thats cool...but don't be ignorant to other's choices/reasons
:good:
centauress
06-12-2006, 09:18 PM
As long as you believe your opinion, thats cool...but don't be ignorant to other's choices/reasons
Nice sentiment, but that should hold for BOTH sides.
The 600/650/700 users indicate that the 6700 'is impossible to use one-handed'. When evidence is given that the viewpoint is false, the use the Repugnican tactic of repeating their argiment, without change.
They also insist that 'you have to buy third-party to get the functions the Treo has'. Thereby forgetting that they got the same functions from the same, or similar, third-party software. But they deny when it's pointed out.
And finally, they insist that Treo is pure. TREO was once the imprimus for Palm-only devices. What's for sale now? The TREO 700W, a device that runs WinMo! And in the near future, there won't even BE PalmOS to put on a future TREO! But 'deny, deny, deny and attack' if it's pointed out.
So, if you're going to soapbox about tolerance, please do so at both sides of the debate.
Jaggrey
06-12-2006, 10:09 PM
Please don't generalize... not ALL Treo users respond the way that you're implying. Thanks. :wavey:
Deval
06-12-2006, 10:45 PM
Nice sentiment, but that should hold for BOTH sides.
The 600/650/700 users indicate that the 6700 'is impossible to use one-handed'. When evidence is given that the viewpoint is false, the use the Repugnican tactic of repeating their argiment, without change.
They also insist that 'you have to buy third-party to get the functions the Treo has'. Thereby forgetting that they got the same functions from the same, or similar, third-party software. But they deny when it's pointed out.
And finally, they insist that Treo is pure. TREO was once the imprimus for Palm-only devices. What's for sale now? The TREO 700W, a device that runs WinMo! And in the near future, there won't even BE PalmOS to put on a future TREO! But 'deny, deny, deny and attack' if it's pointed out.
So, if you're going to soapbox about tolerance, please do so at both sides of the debate.
you feel better now? I have my Treo 700p in my hand right now...and my 6700 @ work charging...I've used and abused both...thank you
centauress
06-12-2006, 11:25 PM
Please don't generalize... not ALL Treo (http:///#) users respond the way that you're implying. Thanks. :wavey:
I'm generalizing like the Treo-screamers do. The ones that are most vocal that the Treo (#) (add model number) is the ONLY device and that (choose a PPC model) is total sheizen because it is using (choice of WM make).
I, myself, have used both; I've found that the major determinations for which device are:
What is the OS of the desktop (#) you're using? Mac (#) users will generally gravitate toward the Palm OS (#). They like the GUI interface of the Mac, which is mimicked in Palm (#).
Are you a 'flash-geek'? If you want to show off that you're 'cutting edge', you'll whip out your Treo. (Time after time, I've seen this happen here in S.F. "Look at me, I've got a fancy Treo 600/650/700!" "Can it do this?[show off function]" "Idunnow...") 'Tech-geeks' gravitate toward the WinMo. (Seen this, too. Contributed to it, as well...:rolleyes: )
Are you impatient? Treo if you are, WinMo if you aren't. Treo people want function NOW. WinMo people knows that perfection is an evolving thing...
After checking my informal survey results, that's what I find here as well. Within survey distribution, of course...
you feel better now? I have my Treo 700p in my hand right now...and my 6700 @ work charging...I've used and abused both...thank you
You're welcome. I wasn't dissing on either of you or your opinions, just the thought that you're wanting the WinMo users to be nice and not acknowledging that the Palm users are just as bad, if not worse...
Jaggrey
06-13-2006, 08:54 AM
Gotta love the fanboyism (not you, just others here). For the record I'm not a mac user :p Ha! Theory disproved! :lol:
centauress
06-13-2006, 11:10 AM
As I said, within survey distribution. There are always survey results that fall outside the bell curve. But 95% do fall within...
Deval
06-13-2006, 11:16 AM
As I said, within survey distribution. There are always survey results that fall outside the bell curve. But 95% do fall within...
in what aspect...3/4 of UMDNJ use Treo 650/700 palm based, and I can promise you that 90% of those do not use macs.
Tyzing
06-13-2006, 11:57 AM
not going to lie, I just went to the last page to fastfoward all the bickering, but I want to know whats the chance of me being able to get this for Sprint? I want to lose my treo
josh33_unc
06-13-2006, 12:03 PM
not going to lie, I just went to the last page to fastfoward all the bickering, but I want to know whats the chance of me being able to get this for Sprint? I want to lose my treo
you want to lose the touchscreen ability of the treo also?
Malatesta
06-13-2006, 12:04 PM
not going to lie, I just went to the last page to fastfoward all the bickering, but I want to know whats the chance of me being able to get this for Sprint? I want to lose my treo
It's kind of up on the air right now. I have heard that Sprint should get but that it might not be for a few months (maybe not even till the end of the year). I've also heard that Sprint is supposed to have a "strong PDA lineup" coming up the 2nd half of this year and 1st of next...
Yeah, not to specific but that's all I've heard of so far. It is a nice phone and I wouldn't mind taking it out for a spin for compairison.
MacPCS
06-13-2006, 12:50 PM
As I said, within survey distribution. There are always survey results that fall outside the bell curve. But 95% do fall within...
I don't use the Palm OS because it mimics Mac OS, because it isn't even close. it';s nowhere near Mac OS in usability, stability, anything. That being said, it's still superior to windows ;)
dluxarun
06-13-2006, 12:51 PM
motorola refused to print Sprint logo on the phones, thats y sprint doesnt market moto phones .....stupid corporate ego..
Malatesta
06-13-2006, 01:08 PM
motorola refused to print Sprint logo on the phones, thats y sprint doesnt market moto phones .....stupid corporate ego..
Wow, that really stinks... :rolleyes:
Guess they don't have a problem putting Verizon's logo on then?
...Stinks that you don't know
a) what you're talking about
b) how to use Google Image
:lol:
dluxarun
06-13-2006, 01:12 PM
maybe moto charges money to put logo but sprint doesnt wanna pay ...just speculating....my friend used to work for moto and he told me that motorola refused to print Sprint logo on the phones, thats y sprint doesnt market moto phones
Malatesta
06-13-2006, 01:16 PM
maybe moto charges money to put logo but sprint doesnt wanna pay ...just speculating....my friend used to work for moto and he told me that motorola refused to print Sprint logo on the phones, thats y sprint doesnt market moto phones
I mean anything is possible I just can't imagine that Moto at the end of the day, would turn Sprint down or away over something so trivial. We're talking a lot money here from one of the largetst carries.
Obvioulsy there is some reason that Sprint is reluctant to do business with them, maybe it's the overall cost of the phones to the carriers or support (lackthereof) but I just don't think it's the "logo" issue, you figured they'd be flexible on that.
via phonescoop:
Date Posted: Dec 20, 2005, 10:31 PM
Source: FCC
The FCC today revealed a new Motorola clamshell bound for Sprint. The C290 will be a basic PCS Vision phone with 1xRTT data. It does not possess a camera, external display or other advanced features beyond a speakerphone. However this phone is still noteworthy because it is the first Motorola that Sprint has carried since the V60v. It could signal that Sprint has rekindled their relationship with the manufacturer.
there's also from Chris Price:
Sprint can't release Motorola CDMA phones that can't run Java apps they approve.
Deval
06-13-2006, 01:17 PM
I think people are trying to think too much into it...there are legit reasons...maybe the software is too buggy, who knows?
Jaggrey
06-13-2006, 02:02 PM
There's also the Moto C290 that has the Sprint logo, so that kinda nullifies that whole argument right there.
MacPCS
06-13-2006, 02:09 PM
well it's not too hard to poke holes in an argument that Moto just won't put the sprint logo on something...
bluecoyote
06-13-2006, 08:20 PM
Uh, I think the J2ME argument is correct, not the logo argument.
The PPC 6700 isn't impossible to use one-handed, it's just a pain in the ***** to compared to its contemporares. With a stylus it's no major headache, but when you've got a coffee in one hand and your PPC in the other, just try quitting the calendar so you can launch IE. . Or try using a not-quite WM5 ready application (TCPMP) . And hey, I use a PPC 6700, and I've had a Treo 650, and it's directly replacing my Tungsten C, and has done duty alongside a Nokia 770, 3650, 7610, N90, 9500, among others, and a SE P910.
I'm a Mac user and I'm using a PPC (to be honest, it's not the best combination.) My former roommate was an anti-mac hardcore geek and used a Treo.
I'd say most Mac users would use Symbian if they had the chance, given how well SonyEricsson, Nokia, and Apple all get along (iSync compatibility is spot-on perfect- better than Palm!) , and the fact that most Mac users nowadays have higher standards regarding how an OS should perform than their windows counterparts.
But hey, I'm stubborn enough to stick with Sprint, so I'm willing to put up with Windows Mobile for that awesome EV-DO connection.
Freak4Dell
06-13-2006, 09:01 PM
Well, you could always go to the 700p. That has EVDO, right?
golferal
07-25-2006, 06:45 PM
After the Sprint/ Nextel merger, Sprint has to be close to, if not THE largest Motorola seller, since almost every Nextel phone is made by Motorola. Why the hell can't Sprint flex some muscle and get the Q, or at the very least bring us something to compete with it, like maybe the Samsung SGH-I320?
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