How to fit more songs on the A900

[SprintNewbie]

Hey guys, been getting a couple of requests on how I was able to fit so many songs on my Blade, so I figured I would make a thread of it so you can all get the info. Basicall go here:

http://www.download.com/Easy-CD-DA-Extractor/3000-2140_4-10495485.html?tag=lst-0-1

and if that link doesn't work, just do a search for Easy CD-DA Extractor.

Then convert your mp3's to .mp4 (aacPlus V2), at 32 kbit/s 44100hz Stereo (don't do parametric stereo, doesn't sound as good)

and vualla! It takes an mp3 at 128kp from 6mb down to around 1 mb, and sound just as good. :tu:

now if anyone knows a good way to compress video, please share. I would love to be able to get a few episodes of Family guy on my phone.

[ALAOLACOLA]

Hey guys, been getting a couple of requests on how I was able to fit so many songs on my Blade, so I figured I would make a thread of it so you can all get the info. Basicall go here:

http://www.download.com/Easy-CD-DA-Extractor/3000-2140_4-10495485.html?tag=lst-0-1

and if that link doesn't work, just do a search for Easy CD-DA Extractor.

Then convert your mp3's to .mp4 (aacPlus V2), at 32 kbit/s 44100hz Stereo (don't do parametric stereo, doesn't sound as good)

and vualla! It takes an mp3 at 128kp from 6mb down to around 1 mb, and sound just as good. :tu:

now if anyone knows a good way to compress video, please share. I would love to be able to get a few episodes of Family guy on my phone.
A 128kbps MP3 sounds just as good as a 32kBps MP3. BONUS! Makes me wonder why MP3s aren't already in the space saving format. I think iPod users need to take note here and stop wasting their iPod's capacity on 128 or higher MP3s.

[dgeezer]

You can also do the mp3 to m4a conversion using dbpoweramp.

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/

The basic version is free (not a free trial) and it will handle a bunch of different conversions.

[dgeezer]

Here is more info than you might ever want to see about audio encoding:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding

[Dunpeal]

You can also convert MP3 to MP4, and much more, using Roxie Easy Media Creator that has Sound Editor intergrated with it.

Sound Editor lets you do amazing things including pumping pumping up the volume.

I am not a freeware fan due to too many risks with viruses/spyware/malware/keylogger issues.

[sluggerx5]

anyone else have any software suggestions cause my easy cd extractor trial ran out and dbpoweramp just doesn't do it for me.

[MRTRIPOD]

itunes converts as well!!!!!!!!!!!

[Eric5964]

Does the phone play mp4? I tried some of the itunes files and media player files...they do not play in this phone

EricE

[sluggerx5]

it should play

[bmk]

i have 98 songs on my a900 and they sound great. Here is what i do:

1. Get the LameMp3 Encoder at http://www.free-codecs.com/download_soft.php?d=1154&s=22 - Then Unrar to someplace that wont annoy you (i put it in my documents)

2. Download Audacity 1.3 Beta

3. Open Audacity 1.3 Beta then go to edit > preferences

4. Click the "Batch" tab

5. Click the "Empty Chain" Button

6. In the table to the right, there is a value like thing that says - END -, double click it, select Import from the list, then press ok. After that, double click the -END- again and select Stereo to Mono then press ok. Double click -END- again and select ExportMp3.

your table should look like this:
Import
Stereo to Mono
ExportMp3
- END -

7. Go to the "File Formats" tab now and at the bottom, click the "Find Library" button and locate where you unextracted the Lame Mp3 Encoder and select it

8. Now you have a size option here: a) if you want high quality, make the bitrate (to the left of the Find Library button) to like 24 or something. This way will take a little bit more space than the next option. b) if you want to fit the most songs possible, make the bitrate 16. Honestly, i think this is the best option. It sounds great still and you can hold about 100 songs on the a900.

9. After you chose your option, press ok in the preferences and then go to file > process batch and select all the mp3's that you want to convert then press ok at the next table that lists all the songs that you want to process and just wait for it to finish. It will take longer depending how many songs you chose. ALSO(THIS IS IMPORTANT), YOU NEED ALOT OF DISK SPACE ON YOUR HARD DRIVE. EACH SONG YOU CHOSE WHILE PROCESSING WILL TAKE ABOUT 100MB EACH ON YOUR HARDDRIVE



anyways, the processes mp3's will be in a folder called "cleaned" in folder where all your songs were. thank you.


damn that took along time to write

[EDGE23]

Does the phone play mp4? I tried some of the itunes files and media player files...they do not play in this phone

EricE
did you right clicked the song and chosed convert to AAC?,,i put my whole itunes library in my 9000. :p

[chrisoaf]

i have 98 songs on my a900 and they sound great. Here is what i do:

1. Get the LameMp3 Encoder at http://www.free-codecs.com/download_soft.php?d=1154&s=22 - Then Unrar to someplace that wont annoy you (i put it in my documents)

2. Download Audacity 1.3 Beta

3. Open Audacity 1.3 Beta then go to edit > preferences

4. Click the "Batch" tab

5. Click the "Empty Chain" Button

6. In the table to the right, there is a value like thing that says - END -, double click it, select Import from the list, then press ok. After that, double click the -END- again and select Stereo to Mono then press ok. Double click -END- again and select ExportMp3.

your table should look like this:
Import
Stereo to Mono
ExportMp3
- END -

7. Go to the "File Formats" tab now and at the bottom, click the "Find Library" button and locate where you unextracted the Lame Mp3 Encoder and select it

8. Now you have a size option here: a) if you want high quality, make the bitrate (to the left of the Find Library button) to like 24 or something. This way will take a little bit more space than the next option. b) if you want to fit the most songs possible, make the bitrate 16. Honestly, i think this is the best option. It sounds great still and you can hold about 100 songs on the a900.

9. After you chose your option, press ok in the preferences and then go to file > process batch and select all the mp3's that you want to convert then press ok at the next table that lists all the songs that you want to process and just wait for it to finish. It will take longer depending how many songs you chose. ALSO(THIS IS IMPORTANT), YOU NEED ALOT OF DISK SPACE ON YOUR HARD DRIVE. EACH SONG YOU CHOSE WHILE PROCESSING WILL TAKE ABOUT 100MB EACH ON YOUR HARDDRIVE



anyways, the processes mp3's will be in a folder called "cleaned" in folder where all your songs were. thank you.


damn that took along time to write

A mono MP3 encoded at 16kbps will not sound good to most people. It may sound somewhat ok coming out of the phone speakers (I even doubt that), but hook some headphones up and it will sound terrible.

[Bklyn295]

sounds neat nice find

[ianjohnsa]

Then convert your mp3's to .mp4 (aacPlus V2), at 32 kbit/s 44100hz Stereo (don't do parametric stereo, doesn't sound as good)

So I am to believe that this aacPlus V2 you speak of is capable of higher compression than normal AAC with no noticeable decrease in quality?

Can someone confirm this? It sounds great if it is true...

[bmk]

A mono MP3 encoded at 16kbps will not sound good to most people. It may sound somewhat ok coming out of the phone speakers (I even doubt that), but hook some headphones up and it will sound terrible.


it sounds fine in my headphones

[wBkM85]

i have 98 songs on my a900 and they sound great. Here is what i do:

1. Get the LameMp3 Encoder at http://www.free-codecs.com/download_soft.php?d=1154&s=22 - Then Unrar to someplace that wont annoy you (i put it in my documents)

2. Download Audacity 1.3 Beta

3. Open Audacity 1.3 Beta then go to edit > preferences

4. Click the "Batch" tab

5. Click the "Empty Chain" Button

6. In the table to the right, there is a value like thing that says - END -, double click it, select Import from the list, then press ok. After that, double click the -END- again and select Stereo to Mono then press ok. Double click -END- again and select ExportMp3.

your table should look like this:
Import
Stereo to Mono
ExportMp3
- END -

7. Go to the "File Formats" tab now and at the bottom, click the "Find Library" button and locate where you unextracted the Lame Mp3 Encoder and select it

8. Now you have a size option here: a) if you want high quality, make the bitrate (to the left of the Find Library button) to like 24 or something. This way will take a little bit more space than the next option. b) if you want to fit the most songs possible, make the bitrate 16. Honestly, i think this is the best option. It sounds great still and you can hold about 100 songs on the a900.

9. After you chose your option, press ok in the preferences and then go to file > process batch and select all the mp3's that you want to convert then press ok at the next table that lists all the songs that you want to process and just wait for it to finish. It will take longer depending how many songs you chose. ALSO(THIS IS IMPORTANT), YOU NEED ALOT OF DISK SPACE ON YOUR HARD DRIVE. EACH SONG YOU CHOSE WHILE PROCESSING WILL TAKE ABOUT 100MB EACH ON YOUR HARDDRIVE



anyways, the processes mp3's will be in a folder called "cleaned" in folder where all your songs were. thank you.


damn that took along time to write


how do you get them on the phone? what folder do you put them in and how do you go about getting them played? i'm lost :indiff:

[Helion]

Thanks for the post, I just converted and dumped a ton of music on my phone. Alot more than I had on there previously and they sound good through the speakers and headphones.

Here is my folder I transfered to my phone.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b43/sicbackyard4/musicfiles.jpg



Jason

[JRoss]

I got about 40 on there. Is that about what everone else is getting?

[Helion]

I got about 40 on there. Is that about what everone else is getting?

Thats about what I'm getting.


Jason

[socca1157]

Wirelessly posted (Sexy Blade!: Samsung-SPHA900 AU-MIC-A900/2.0 MMP/2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1)

Same, thanks alot sprintnewbie!

[alpac915]

Hey guys, been getting a couple of requests on how I was able to fit so many songs on my Blade, so I figured I would make a thread of it so you can all get the info. Basicall go here:

http://www.download.com/Easy-CD-DA-Extractor/3000-2140_4-10495485.html?tag=lst-0-1

and if that link doesn't work, just do a search for Easy CD-DA Extractor.

Then convert your mp3's to .mp4 (aacPlus V2), at 32 kbit/s 44100hz Stereo (don't do parametric stereo, doesn't sound as good)

and vualla! It takes an mp3 at 128kp from 6mb down to around 1 mb, and sound just as good. :tu:

now if anyone knows a good way to compress video, please share. I would love to be able to get a few episodes of Family guy on my phone.

Thanks for the tip!

[SprintNewbie]

Hey guys, just updating about the video. found a program that allows you to PICK the bit/rate of the video quality (up until now, the ones I found were preset) Anyway, I was able to compress a FULL episode of Family Guy down to 7mb. The audio sounds fine, and the video is ok, slightly lower quality than sprint tv. the program is called 5star Mobile Video. search or you can get the program here:

http://www.soft32.com/download_127295.html

and convert the files to 3gp2, for mobile device. under quality, put it low. then hit settings and bring the video rate down to 32. leave the audio alone. set the screen size to 176 x 144. leave the Fit to option and split size at unlimited. and convert. see how the quality of the video works for you, if not just keep bringing the rate higher until its at an acceptable level, however the higher you go the bigger the file.

[Dunpeal]

Here are 10 MP3 songs that total 165MB with approximately 1hr and 10 minutes of playtime. What type of music ? Hard Trance.

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/738/mp33bk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I used Quick Time Player Pro to convert all 10 MP3 songs to MP4 32kbps @ 32.000khz in Mono for a total of 17.2MB that is very clear and loud on the A900 Media Player. Mono sounds much more clearer than Stereo that uses more space.

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8049/mp44yt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

With this method we can load about 3 Albums of music which can estimate to over 256MB MP3 data that can be converted to MP4 to fit perfectly onto the A900 47MB mass storage with the same sound quality as MP3

D.... :wavey:

[Manic Mailman]

Thanks for the info OP, 108 to 18 mb! I am now officialy in love with my A900.

[KingKnife]

Great posting.. Now only if we could get a good battery to listen to all this music. lol(crying inside)

[wBkM85]

lol, really

i put my files with a quality of 48 i believe...sounds great.

should i downgrade even more to put more songs on this thing? how does everyone else's sound on lower quality levels?

[alpac915]

So I am to believe that this aacPlus V2 you speak of is capable of higher compression than normal AAC with no noticeable decrease in quality?

Can someone confirm this? It sounds great if it is true...


I converted my mp3's to mp4 aacplus V2 and the sound quality is awesome. There is no decrease in quality. But is there a freeware program besides dbpoweramp that I can use instead of Easy CD-DA extractor because it is only good for 30 days.

[GrooveRite]

M4a (accplus v2) is the way to go people! Quality is AMAZING!!! Thank you Sprint Newbie!!! Now who can get a key to kill the 30 day period on this prog?!?!? lol

[BobboZR2]

I don't know what everyone is talking about regarding 32kbit/s mp4 (aacplus v2) sounding just as good as 128kbit/s mp3. I converted a couple of songs and was comparing them against each other (using headphones on my laptop while switching between the songs as they play) and the 32kbit one doesn't sound anywhere as good as the 128kbit one. The 32kbit/s one sounds more "hollow" or "distant".

I converted the songs as instructed in the initial post using Easy CD-DA. I followed the instructions to the letter.

Either I'm missing something or you guys don't have very discerning ears.

[SprintNewbie]

well, if the 32kbit doesn't sound good to you, just keep increasing the bit rate until its at an acceptable level for you. Just make sure its at 44100hz, stereo. However, the higher the kbit the larger the file will be.

[Helion]

I don't know what everyone is talking about regarding 32kbit/s mp4 (aacplus v2) sounding just as good as 128kbit/s mp3. I converted a couple of songs and was comparing them against each other (using headphones on my laptop while switching between the songs as they play) and the 32kbit one doesn't sound anywhere as good as the 128kbit one. The 32kbit/s one sounds more "hollow" or "distant".

I converted the songs as instructed in the initial post using Easy CD-DA. I followed the instructions to the letter.

Either I'm missing something or you guys don't have very discerning ears.

Your laptop would show a considerable difference but on the phone it is quite hard to tell.


Jason

[BobboZR2]

well, if the 32kbit doesn't sound good to you, just keep increasing the bit rate until its at an acceptable level for you. Just make sure its at 44100hz, stereo. However, the higher the kbit the larger the file will be.

Yes, I understand how that works. However, the above posters were making it sound as if there was no loss in audio quality with this compression format. I beg to differ. Perhaps when played through the speakers of the A900 the difference is harder to notice, but please don't imply that the sound is similar when played back through headphones.

I appreciate the information that was provided, but after reading this thread I was fooled into believing that aacplus v2 was the next best thing since sliced bread.

[BobboZR2]

Your laptop would show a considerable difference but on the phone it is quite hard to tell.


Jason

Yeah, that's what I figured (see my above reply). Perhaps that should be mentioned earlier in the thread. I don't know if it has much to do with the quality of the compression as it does with the quality of the small external speakers on the A900. A compressed file played through any kind of small speaker would be more difficult to discern against an uncompressed file playing throught those same speakers.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with being able to perform this compression to get more songs on my phone (I'm performing the compression on my entire music collection right now). I guess I'm just disappointed since I was lead to believe the aacplus v2 format was just as good as 128-196kb/s mp3 audio.

Oh well, I guess you can't have everything. If I want more songs on my A900 I'm going to have to sacrifice some of the sound quality I suppose.

[SprintNewbie]

to each his own, i guess. What is kinda wierd is that I do notice it more on my laptop, but when I play the music on my car stereo through the phone, I can't tell a difference. Maybe its the bass that hides it, but through my car stereo or the head phones I can't really tell the difference except for a couple of high notes. Plus the compression on the mp4 is much cleaner than mp3, compare a 40 kbit of mp4 to one in 40 kbit mp3.

[GrooveRite]

Yeah, that's what I figured (see my above reply). Perhaps that should be mentioned earlier in the thread. I don't know if it has much to do with the quality of the compression as it does with the quality of the small external speakers on the A900. A compressed file played through any kind of small speaker would be more difficult to discern against an uncompressed file playing throught those same speakers.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with being able to perform this compression to get more songs on my phone (I'm performing the compression on my entire music collection right now). I guess I'm just disappointed since I was lead to believe the aacplus v2 format was just as good as 128-196kb/s mp3 audio.

Oh well, I guess you can't have everything. If I want more songs on my A900 I'm going to have to sacrifice some of the sound quality I suppose.

Considering the the file is ALOT smaller than a MP3, I think it sounds GOOD for what it is. I had reduced a Mp3 file down to 64 kbps with sound forge and brought it down from 84.5MB to 23.2MB (DJ Set for 60 min) and it doesnt even come close in quality to how it sounds as a M4a. Yes it wont sound EXACTLY like MP3 quality....BUT....it comes close IMHO.

[GrooveRite]

I've also noticed that the files are bassier(sp?) and the highest volume goes till 7, 8 just sounds the same loudness as 7. Anyone have any ideas why this is happening??

[BobboZR2]

For what it's worth, it does sound quite impressive coming out of the A900 speakers. The difference is hardly noticible considering the considerable decrease in file size/bit rate. The higher quality ones do sound "brighter" than the more compressed files, but the difference is negligible.

Despite my earlier rant, I can live with it. As long as I don't listen to the file anywhere but through my A900's external speakers, it's all good. :)

[GrooveRite]

For what it's worth, it does sound quite impressive coming out of the A900 speakers. The difference is hardly noticible considering the considerable decrease in file size/bit rate. The higher quality ones do sound "brighter" than the more compressed files, but the difference is negligible.

Despite my earlier rant, I can live with it. As long as I don't listen to the file anywhere but through my A900's external speakers, it's all good. :)

Couldnt have said it better myself! :)

[theChosen1G]

GREAT thread! MP3 > MP4 sound just as good and I can't tell the difference on my phone. Thanks for sharing the info OP.

[GrooveRite]

Anyone know the difference between MP4 and M4a files as far as quality and/or sound is concerned?!?! Is or isnt there any?

[SprintNewbie]

there isn't any. The only difference I have noticed is when I make ringtones. for some reason if I upload an .mp4, when it goes into my content it goes into an "other" folder. But when its .m4a it goes right into my ringers folder. and thats the only difference I've noticed.

[GrooveRite]

Thanks SprintNewbie! I appreciate the info!

[GrooveRite]

Can anyone recommend me software (free or paid) that i can use to cut MP3's and amplify so i can make my own ringers. Please let me know of software that have BEST results. Thanks in advance!!

[laursifer]

I believe lots of people use Audacity, among some others, but Audacity is the only one I can ever remember and it's free.

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

I personally use Nero Wave Editor, but that's not free. It came with the suite of Nero products and I don't think you can buy it separately, though I could be wrong. If you don't have a use for the entire package of Nero goodness, it's quite a lot of money to pay for one little audio program.

http://ww2.nero.com/nero7/enu/Nero_Wave_Editor_3.html

[GrooveRite]

I believe lots of people use Audacity, among some others, but Audacity is the only one I can ever remember and it's free.

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

I personally use Nero Wave Editor, but that's not free. It came with the suite of Nero products and I don't think you can buy it separately, though I could be wrong. If you don't have a use for the entire package of Nero goodness, it's quite a lot of money to pay for one little audio program.

http://ww2.nero.com/nero7/enu/Nero_Wave_Editor_3.html

Thank you Laursifer, much appreciated! :)

I'm using WavePad right know (totally forgot I had it) and am using it for now. I just want to know what the best software thats out now so I can make my ringers CLEAR and LOUD. I dont know how well the results will be from using WavePad so I'll DL Audacity and make comparisons myself. Anyway, thanks once again for the info! :wavey:

[laursifer]

Oh, oh, oh... if you haven't already seen it, this thread will probably help you:
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75513

[GrooveRite]

Beautiful!!! Thanks So Much!!! :wavey: :clap: :headbang2 :music:

You know, I do use the search engine and look around (believe me, I look around everywhere! lol) but its so hard to find when you have so many threads of similar stuff and not to mention that theres TONS of it as well. Thanks ALOT for directing me there! :ridebike:

[laursifer]

My pleasure :) I know the search function is kinda rough. It's like a big monster! We try to help when we can.

[SprintNewbie]

Can anyone recommend me software (free or paid) that i can use to cut MP3's and amplify so i can make my own ringers. Please let me know of software that have BEST results. Thanks in advance!!

You can also use the easy cd-da to convert file into .wav format, then with sound recorder (comes with windows) you can use that to cut the song down and turn the volume up. then when you have it like you want it, just convert it to .m4a format with easy cd.

[q177onique]

Do you know how to turn uploaded mp3s into ringers?

[SprintNewbie]

Do you know how to turn uploaded mp3s into ringers?

Well, this is how I have put ringers on my phone.

First download the program thats on the first page of this thread.

With that program Convert your .mp3 into .wav (cd quality)

Then use sound recorder (included with windows, go to start, all programs, accesories, entertainment) and locate your converted .wav file. then cut the file down to the part of the song you want as your ringtone. I just use the options in edit where it says "delete before current position" and "delete after current position" then if you want you can also increase the volume by going under "effects". save it when your done.

Then go back the easy cd-da, locate your edited .wav file. then convert this file into .m4a (aacPlus V2) for my ringtones i use the bit rate of 40k/bits, 44100 hz, stereo.

after you convert your files go to focus (if you look at the tabs at the top of this page, it located right next to "Forum".

Use focus to upload your ringer to your phone. Just enter you phone number, the name of the file (just can't be too long or the phone won't download it), then click browse, locate the new .m4a file and upload.

You will then get a text message that when you open it, it will be a web address. just click the left soft key of the phone (should say go)

it will then ask you if you want to download the file and warn you against so cause its not a sprint approved file, just select down load file.

And your DONE! :clap: the file will be in your ringers folder with the name you gave it when uploading on forcus (not the name thats on your pc)

Just be aware that you may be charged 10 cents for the text message and for the data used to upload the file, it all just depends on what is included in your plan.

[q177onique]

Thank u!!! You are the best!

[GrooveRite]

You can also use the easy cd-da to convert file into .wav format, then with sound recorder (comes with windows) you can use that to cut the song down and turn the volume up. then when you have it like you want it, just convert it to .m4a format with easy cd.

I have been using Easy CD-DA and I used WavePad to cut the file down. I already have a few MP3 files that i converted to M4a for my media folder. I just grabbed one of those files and chopped it in WavePad. :)

Now what i wanna know is.....would it be best to increase the volume when its in MP3 format rather than M4a or does it not matter?? I also found out that M4a files are audio content only files while MP4 files are codecs for audio and video.

[SprintNewbie]

prbably mp3, its beter to mod the sound when it the least compressed so there is less distortion, i think.

[GrooveRite]

prbably mp3, its beter to mod the sound when it the least compressed so there is less distortion, i think.

I was thinking the same ... :tu:

[w7excursion13]

I like the Xilisoft Video Converter which converts your video and audio files. The free version lets you convert up to 5 minutes and you have all those video and audio options in one program. I have converted some of my mp3's to m4a and as low as 700kb and they sound like they are supposed to, loud. :)

[Westcoast0701]

Is there anyway to get the album artwork for the songs?

[PeteyV]

I have been using Easy CD-DA and I used WavePad to cut the file down. I already have a few MP3 files that i converted to M4a for my media folder. I just grabbed one of those files and chopped it in WavePad. :)

Now what i wanna know is.....would it be best to increase the volume when its in MP3 format rather than M4a or does it not matter?? I also found out that M4a files are audio content only files while MP4 files are codecs for audio and video.


All, Thanks for your tips, as I just got my Blade this week, but why didn't they just give us some more memory? Or at least a slot?? This is way too much work to get 40 songs onto a phone!!

Anyone, investigating if more memory is possible to add??

[Tigrrre]

...it is not too much work, people need to stop being lazy.

i currently have 52 songs on mine.

[Deval]

Actually if you have quicktime pro, you can get the files down to 600-700kbps for the entire song, and it still sounds decent

[Tigrrre]

quicktime pro doesnt do AAC+ encoding.

mediacoder (rarewares.soniccompression.com/mediacoder/dlfull.htm) does..

[Deval]

quicktime pro doesnt do AAC+ encoding.

mediacoder (rarewares.soniccompression.com/mediacoder/dlfull.htm) does..

just in m4a format it sounds great

[PeteyV]

Yeah, but I don't want 50 songs. I want 200 songs or even more. If there were just more memory like .5 gig, you could have all this + the compression to be even more efficient. If there were an expnsion slot, I would pay for the memory, I am not demanding it is on the phone.

Plus, I am in the middle of my conversions now, any!! :)

[Tigrrre]

200 songs (~8kbps)...will sound like AM radio quality...i think i have an encoder for that bitrate around...

[ScottAIS]

Does anyone else get an "unsupported format error" when browsing your uploaded songs in the A900 file manager? I used the process outlined by SprintNewbie and I cannot see any music when browsing the player.

[Tigrrre]

emm...dont use the file viewer to try and play music, hit the left softkey and select media in mass storage.

[ScottAIS]

Thanks. I was using file manager to make sure my files were actually on the phone and that the player through Sprint music store showed no files. Evidently I was trying the wrong utility to play my music. Thanks again.

[Tigrrre]

no biggie, glad to help :)

[rimplestultskin]

MediaCoder's perfect.

Only open-source program that encodes AAC+ that I found, and it's amazing. Shrunk a 4.8MB WMA file into less than a megabyte, without any loss of quality, even on my desktop pc(then again, onboard sound and speakers built-into monitor, but still...)

[Tigrrre]

oh yeah, it's great, of course, itd be better if the a9xx sammy's supported eAAC+ (parametric stereo), then we could go all the way down to 20kbps :D

[rimplestultskin]

I shrunk it down to 16kbps with mediacoder, and either my ears are completely shot or my computer speakers are garbage because I STILL didn't notice any difference from a 128 MP3. Do the files get smaller if I turn off parametric stereo?

[Tigrrre]

16kbps?

was it in mono?

[rimplestultskin]

Yeah, I guess. I'm not too familiar with MediaCoder, but I have it on 3GPP AAC+, 16kbps with parametric stereo turned off. Shrunk my songs down by about a factor of 9.7 I think.

[Tigrrre]

pretty nice :)

28kbps is the lowest ill go though.

you could try 24kbps w/regular stereo on CT AAC+, but you need to have winamp pro for that.

[GrooveRite]

Anyone know the differences between Easy CD-DA Extractor 9.0 and MediaCoder??

[rimplestultskin]

MediaCoder=open source, freely available, both the program itself and the source code, under the GPL.

In other words, it's completely free to use(versus CDDA extractor which bugx0rz you for a registration code which is an un needed expense) for the user, and the developer can freely grab the source code and tweak it to fit their needs. Same reason firefox owns all web browsers out there.

[GrooveRite]

MediaCoder=open source, freely available, both the program itself and the source code, under the GPL.

In other words, it's completely free to use(versus CDDA extractor which bugx0rz you for a registration code which is an un needed expense) for the user, and the developer can freely grab the source code and tweak it to fit their needs. Same reason firefox owns all web browsers out there.

Thanks for the quick reponse!

Well, CDDA extractor isnt costing me anything right now (or ever) so I'm gonna stick with it for the time being. I'm gonna try out Mediacoder and see if it easily converts MP3's like CDDA does for me. I'll stick with whatever is best (and less of a hassle aswell) though.

[rimplestultskin]

Extractor will stop working and ask for a registration code soon enough.
General rule of thumb, open source programs are almost always free(the exception being enterprise level programs such as business-grade linux) because the source code is freely available.

[jacksonman]

Yeah, I guess. I'm not too familiar with MediaCoder, but I have it on 3GPP AAC+, 16kbps with parametric stereo turned off. Shrunk my songs down by about a factor of 9.7 I think.
Any idea why I am erroring out when I try the3GPP AAC+? I am doing a trial using CT AAC+ right now.

[GrooveRite]

Any idea why I am erroring out when I try the3GPP AAC+? I am doing a trial using CT AAC+ right now.

Thats the reason why i stopped using mediacoder......too much of a hassle for me.

[Phenom1]

Hey guys, been getting a couple of requests on how I was able to fit so many songs on my Blade, so I figured I would make a thread of it so you can all get the info. Basicall go here:

http://www.download.com/Easy-CD-DA-Extractor/3000-2140_4-10495485.html?tag=lst-0-1

and if that link doesn't work, just do a search for Easy CD-DA Extractor.

Then convert your mp3's to .mp4 (aacPlus V2), at 32 kbit/s 44100hz Stereo (don't do parametric stereo, doesn't sound as good)

and vualla! It takes an mp3 at 128kp from 6mb down to around 1 mb, and sound just as good. :tu:

now if anyone knows a good way to compress video, please share. I would love to be able to get a few episodes of Family guy on my phone.

thanx a lot i used this yesterday now i have about 50 songs plus room for more. :tu:

[Galley]

RealPlayer 10.5 will also transcode files "on the fly" as they transfer to the A900. It won't place them in the proper, however. You will need to move them in Explorer.

[score4fps]

What about us Mac users? I can't seem to get access to the folders on the phone, they're all locked!

[jaydub1106]

Thats the reason why i stopped using mediacoder......too much of a hassle for me.


ask deval how he got it to work... the problem is ur MEDIACODER is missing the .dll file that tells it how to transcode into 3gp aac+..ur going to need that file.. and then u need to put it in the CODEC folder of Media coder...ask deval... as a matter of fact, there is a thread around where someone uploaded that file...

[cigdem.ayaz]

Hello everyone
I have been trying to download songs into my phone all night! I was able to convert my mp3s to mp4 (aacPlus), but I didn't see anything in the box with V2 next to it.... Anyhow, so I converted them to the one without the V2 next to it, and I put the songs into my phone and everytime I try to play them the phone gives me a message that says "unsupported document format by fileviewer". Now I dont know if this is with the converting or maybe I am just not in the right place to play them? I just clicked on the song assuming it would play? Did anyone else have this problem? Can anyone please help me? I really dont know what I am doing wrong. Thanks in advance!

Hey guys, been getting a couple of requests on how I was able to fit so many songs on my Blade, so I figured I would make a thread of it so you can all get the info. Basicall go here:

http://www.download.com/Easy-CD-DA-Extractor/3000-2140_4-10495485.html?tag=lst-0-1

and if that link doesn't work, just do a search for Easy CD-DA Extractor.

Then convert your mp3's to .mp4 (aacPlus V2), at 32 kbit/s 44100hz Stereo (don't do parametric stereo, doesn't sound as good)

and vualla! It takes an mp3 at 128kp from 6mb down to around 1 mb, and sound just as good. :tu:

now if anyone knows a good way to compress video, please share. I would love to be able to get a few episodes of Family guy on my phone.

[Deval]

Hello everyone
I have been trying to download songs into my phone all night! I was able to convert my mp3s to mp4 (aacPlus), but I didn't see anything in the box with V2 next to it.... Anyhow, so I converted them to the one without the V2 next to it, and I put the songs into my phone and everytime I try to play them the phone gives me a message that says "unsupported document format by fileviewer". Now I dont know if this is with the converting or maybe I am just not in the right place to play them? I just clicked on the song assuming it would play? Did anyone else have this problem? Can anyone please help me? I really dont know what I am doing wrong. Thanks in advance!

you are playing them in the FILE MANAGER, instead of MEDIA PLAYER

[MountainDew]

you are playing them in the FILE MANAGER, instead of MEDIA PLAYER


If you click on it on the File Manager isin't it suppost to launch the Media Player?

[Deval]

nope....you can view a file in the OPEN box of MS word, but that doesnt mean you can actually open it in MS WORD

[ink jammer]

Thanks

[janders01]

Thanks for the very specific directions!!!! It worked great and I now have 80 + songs on my blade. Sounds OK especially through earphones.

[GrooveRite]

Thanks for the very specific directions!!!! It worked great and I now have 80 + songs on my blade. Sounds OK especially through earphones.

This thread seriously deserves an award :headbang2 :clap:

[ink jammer]

I have tried alot of things and I can not get the drivers from Samsung it trys to download anycall 2000 and I did the english version but it still has ????? !!!!!! @@@@@@@ and it not readable. I got my MSL numbers from sprint but cant get the QSPT to work will not notice my phone.

[laursifer]

You have to make sure QPST is seeing the COM port the phone is plugged into through the QPST Configuration application. Go to Add New Port and you should be able to get it to see it. It is possible, since many of us do it. It can just be a little tricky.

I dunno about the drivers... I was able to download mine just fine :/

[markyt30]

The aacplus v2 sound good it is worth a little sound sacrifice to get the storage space. Especially on the a900 wish it had the memory card. The Mediacoder program also work great for these functions.

[changofelix]

i cant play music in the media player either

[Apuyoc]

where did you get audacity 1.3 beta

I went to download.com and they only have a 1.2.4b version. is that ok to use

[godzilla<3]

it sucks that you can't put your custom-made great-sounding ringtones on the a900..it makes me angry

[markyt30]

You can put them in using the focus uploader. The only thing is you must have them in a aac format. What format are your custom ringers in right now.

[godzilla<3]

right now they are all in aac format. does the focus uploader put them in "my content"?

[godzilla<3]

i cant use the focus uploader because i cant access the internet on my phone. is there any other way to get them without accessing the internet?

[laursifer]

Nope.

[markyt30]

You must have the internet because it sends them to you as a text message and then you have to use the internet to load the programm in the text. Now the question is do you not have the internet or are you not paying for it. Because on my a900 I can still get on the internet even though I am not geting billed monthly but they do charge you by the kilobyte or something.

[godzilla<3]

well i could go on the internet if i wanted to, but see the last time i did that the bill was outrageous. but maybe if im sneaky and quick they'll never notice. i wonder if i went on the internet just to get my ringtone and then get off if they would still charge me

[How2006]

Thanks, worked great for me

[Fat Tony]

The best way to fit more songs on your A900!

Sell it on ebay and get yourself a Sanyo 9000 with a one or two gig card.

[markyt30]

They will notice that you went on the internet and they will charge. But if you do one and it is cheaper than 2.99 then you are still beating their price and the only way to find one is to try I guess. :fingers:

[laursifer]

well i could go on the internet if i wanted to, but see the last time i did that the bill was outrageous. but maybe if im sneaky and quick they'll never notice. i wonder if i went on the internet just to get my ringtone and then get off if they would still charge me

Uh, yeah, they will still charge you. You will get charged $0.02/KB for all data transferred. If you've never had Vision on your account, call and try to get a month for free (won't be hard--just say you wanna try it out). Download everything you want/need in that month and then cancel it when your free month is up.

[godzilla<3]

thats a good idea, thanks
=]

[macpat]

Does this only work with 900's

[laursifer]

Does this only work with 900's

Absolutely not. It's more sought-after for the A900 because it lacks an expandable memory card, but you can use the methods in this thread for any phone to save more space on your memory cards.

[macpat]

Absolutely not. It's more sought-after for the A900 because it lacks an expandable memory card, but you can use the methods in this thread for any phone to save more space on your memory cards.


Ok because I have a 7500. I was wondering if I would be able to do this and move the songs using the Sprint music back up tool. I will give it a shot and see what happens.

[slowboiled]

Dude...your the man, I now have over 40 songs, and a few full chris rock comedy specials on my phone to pass the day away at the office. Thanks again for the tip brother.

[Sams_Ung900]

This info is extraordinary. Thank you very much.

[jjfc00]

OK SO IM probly back tracking here but I need help. I can only seem to get 12 mb of mp3s on my phone. I under stanad the whole compression thing and am going to try that. but how are you all using all your phones memory? I don't have net access on my phone so I just upload everything strait from my PC. I know this is supposed to have 50 mb storage but how do I use as much as possible?

[Deval]

just use the compression thing, and connect the USB cable that the phone comes with into the PC, and save them in the MEDIA folder

[evanator888]

i have 98 songs on my a900 and they sound great. Here is what i do:

1. Get the LameMp3 Encoder at http://www.free-codecs.com/download_soft.php?d=1154&s=22 - Then Unrar to someplace that wont annoy you (i put it in my documents)

2. Download Audacity 1.3 Beta

3. Open Audacity 1.3 Beta then go to edit > preferences

4. Click the "Batch" tab

5. Click the "Empty Chain" Button

6. In the table to the right, there is a value like thing that says - END -, double click it, select Import from the list, then press ok. After that, double click the -END- again and select Stereo to Mono then press ok. Double click -END- again and select ExportMp3.

your table should look like this:
Import
Stereo to Mono
ExportMp3
- END -

7. Go to the "File Formats" tab now and at the bottom, click the "Find Library" button and locate where you unextracted the Lame Mp3 Encoder and select it

8. Now you have a size option here: a) if you want high quality, make the bitrate (to the left of the Find Library button) to like 24 or something. This way will take a little bit more space than the next option. b) if you want to fit the most songs possible, make the bitrate 16. Honestly, i think this is the best option. It sounds great still and you can hold about 100 songs on the a900.

9. After you chose your option, press ok in the preferences and then go to file > process batch and select all the mp3's that you want to convert then press ok at the next table that lists all the songs that you want to process and just wait for it to finish. It will take longer depending how many songs you chose. ALSO(THIS IS IMPORTANT), YOU NEED ALOT OF DISK SPACE ON YOUR HARD DRIVE. EACH SONG YOU CHOSE WHILE PROCESSING WILL TAKE ABOUT 100MB EACH ON YOUR HARDDRIVE



anyways, the processes mp3's will be in a folder called "cleaned" in folder where all your songs were. thank you.


damn that took along time to write

Where did you find the audacity 1.3 Beta?

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