Sanyo 9000, Is It Discontinued?

[rdcrds]

I have read so many say yes then people say no.Whats the deal? i don't want to buy a phone then its gone already.

Anybody really know not just a rumor?

[Rachel]

I have read so many say yes then people say no.Whats the deal? i don't want to buy a phone then its gone already.

Anybody really know not just a rumor?


Not the last time i checked at work I can check at work on Tuesday just to make sure

[ikandi]

there is a rumor that it will be discontinued soon

[losplatanos]

is that really important, phones are discontinue all the times

whats annoying is to discontinue a phone and not have a replacement on time

because i was force to get a 8300 because when i sign up the 5600 was discontinue and the 9000 was not out yet and i needed a ready link phone, so the 8300 was the best thing out at the time

then i walk in radioshack and see a 5600 so even after the 9000 is taken off the sprint website it will still be around for a while at stores and ebay

[Darkflight]

No the Sanyo 9000 is NOT discontinued, and has no plans to be discontinued for at least a few more months.

[Chris Price]

Originally, the 7500 was going to fill its space, however, the memory card will keep it in the lineup until it is replaced with... something better.

[a_c_s]

It is not discontinued and remains in fairly high demand...even if it were discontinued, why would it matter? The phone does not have any major flaws or bugs and will continue to be supported by Sprint either way....the 5600 was discontinued 3 months ago and since that time about 50 new games and 30+ new apps have been made available for that phone...eventually all phones get discontinued so this shouldn't be a major deciding factor unless a bigger/better replacement is right around the corner, which does not appear to be the case in this instance...

[lgmayka]

The most obvious indication of the 9000's fate is whether TeleNav becomes available for it. TeleNav is already available on all the other recent Sanyo models. If the 9000 is really a well-supported phone, TeleNav will shortly become available on the 9000 too. But if TeleNav continues to be Missing In Action on the 9000, this model is "not long for this world."

[iceman]

I just picked up my Sanyo 9000 today at a Sprint store in NYC, so I would have to say no. Also if you look on the Sprint website you still see they are selling this phone. I would admitt that I went to 4 Sprint stores last week and no one had the phone. But they all said that they were waiting for the next shipment to come in.

One of those store order the 9000 for me, and I picked up this phone on today. This phone is great, I had the 5600 but I have to say that sanyo improved on the 5600 with the 9000.

[a_c_s]

The most obvious indication of the 9000's fate is whether TeleNav becomes available for it. TeleNav is already available on all the other recent Sanyo models. If the 9000 is really a well-supported phone, TeleNav will shortly become available on the 9000 too. But if TeleNav continues to be Missing In Action on the 9000, this model is "not long for this world."

This is not necessarily true as Garmin works fine on the 9000, so Sprint might not care all that much about how long it takes TeleNav to update the software...at least people that want GPS can get it via Garmin in the content manager...Also, TeleNav is not supported on any PV phones currently, despite working on some of the older Samsung models, so I don't think the fact that TeleNav is currently missing in action is any kind of indicator about the lifespan of the 9000...just my $0.02...

[pimpagent]

ive went to the sprint store on numerous ocasions, and every time they told me the same thing. The 9000 and a940 is discontinued

[iceman]

ive went to the sprint store on numerous ocasions, and every time they told me the same thing. The 9000 and a940 is discontinued


Pimpagent

If you are in NYC, I picked up my sanyo 9000 at the Sprint store on Lexington and 56th street. I picked up this phone on Monday Dec 12, they had to order the phone for me, but I got on Monday. Their telephone number is 212 826-0727.

[sel1965]

No!

[Gatorbait]

I've talked to a Sanyo sales rep. and the official word is that the phone is discontinued.

It's still unclear whether or not a replacement is immediately around the corner (maybe a Bluetooth-enabled version?)

One theory is that Sprint contracted with Sanyo to build a fixed number of these phones for Sprint (the number I've heard mentioned is 50,000), and they expect a full sell-through by the end of December or January. Oddly enough, ESPN's MVP phone due to launch in February is using the exact build as the Sanyo 9000 with a different faceplate.... HMMMM.

(Pure speculation here....) Perhaps this phone was never intended for Sprint at all and because of delays with the launching of the ESPN Service, Sanyo sent a few (50,000) Sprint's way to help with the pre-Christmas EV-DO launch???

[sel1965]

I've talked to a Sanyo sales rep. and the official word is that the phone is discontinued.

It's still unclear whether or not a replacement is immediately around the corner (maybe a Bluetooth-enabled version?)

One theory is that Sprint contracted with Sanyo to build a fixed number of these phones for Sprint (the number I've heard mentioned is 50,000), and they expect a full sell-through by the end of December or January. Oddly enough, ESPN's MVP phone due to launch in February is using the exact build as the Sanyo 9000 with a different faceplate.... HMMMM.

(Pure speculation here....) Perhaps this phone was never intended for Sprint at all and because of delays with the launching of the ESPN Service, Sanyo sent a few (50,000) Sprint's way to help with the pre-Christmas EV-DO launch???
Won't be this month or next.

[ssaifull]

(Pure speculation here....) Perhaps this phone was never intended for Sprint at all and because of delays with the launching of the ESPN Service, Sanyo sent a few (50,000) Sprint's way to help with the pre-Christmas EV-DO launch???

I would have to disagree, as we knew about the 9000 many months prior to it's release. I think Sanyo fans will have to wait a while until the next high-end Sanyo is released.

[lgmayka]

I've talked to a Sanyo sales rep. and the official word is that the phone is discontinued.
...
One theory is that Sprint contracted with Sanyo to build a fixed number of these phones for Sprint (the number I've heard mentioned is 50,000), and they expect a full sell-through by the end of December or January.
This theory is at least consistent with the currently known facts. It means that from Sanyo's point of view, the phone is discontinued, because Sanyo is no longer taking any new orders for the phone. From Sprint's point of view, the phone is not discontinued until Sprint actually takes delivery of the full number it has ordered.

Sprint executives, of course, would assure employees that the model is not discontinued, so as not to prematurely dampen its sales.

[renizay]

its not gonna be discontinued.. at least anytime soon, so ralax everyone... i dont see wut the big deal is, even if it was to be discontinued... ud still be able to buy it from places other than sprint...so, ralax.... dont worri bout ittttttt

[ssaifull]

This theory is at least consistent with the currently known facts. It means that from Sanyo's point of view, the phone is discontinued, because Sanyo is no longer taking any new orders for the phone. From Sprint's point of view, the phone is not discontinued until Sprint actually takes delivery of the full number it has ordered.

Sprint executives, of course, would assure employees that the model is not discontinued, so as not to prematurely dampen its sales.


I agree with lgmayka's scenario... sounds the most plausible.

[pimpagent]

the 9000 is a promtional phone for the power vision this is why the life of the phone is now dead. They had to order it because it is no longer being carried at sprint retail stores. Lets end this topic with the final answer of: DISONTINUED PHONE

[sel1965]

the 9000 is a promtional phone for the power vision this is why the life of the phone is now dead. They had to order it because it is no longer being carried at sprint retail stores. Lets end this topic with the final answer of: DISONTINUED PHONE

The how was I able to buy one at a Corp Sprint store yesterday? It isn't discontinued yet.

[G1 Megatron]

I've gone to the Sprint Store twice in the last 3 weeks to ask about this very topic. The first time I went and asked was it true that the 9000 was being discontinued in December, the Rep looked at me as if spoke to her in Japanese or something! :scare: :D She said it would be stupid to discontinue the phone, as it only came out 2 weeks ago (this was November 27). I agreed with her on that. Basically, she didn't believe it would be discontinued, but didn't know for sure. For the second visit to the Sprint Store in 3 weeks, I asked a different person about it. He said with PLENTY of confidence that the 9000 was NOT being discontinued anytime soon. Though they didn't have any in that day, he said they're expecting a new shipment in a few weeks :clap: I mentioned how some speculate that the 9000 was a tester phone for EV-DO and never was gonna be around long. He also not said not to worry about this issue, the phone is here to stay. Just relax. So, I will...for now.... :Popcorn2:

[Marconi]

Current official EOL is 12/30/2005 for the 9000.

[SmplyD]

I've gone to the Sprint Store twice in the last 3 weeks to ask about this very topic. The first time I went and asked was it true that the 9000 was being discontinued in December, the Rep looked at me as if spoke to her in Japanese or something!

I don't know if you guys have had the same experience as me, but it doesn't matter what Sprint store location I go into around the Dallas/Ft. Worth metroplex, but the sales reps there are idiots! They seem to have very little info about what is going on with Sprint phones or services. When the power vision hard launch occurred last month, I went in asking about it, and it didn't even seem they knew what Power Vision was.

It is a 98% certainty that I will know more about what's going on with Sprint (of course mainly due to this site) than any Sprint rep I talk to in the store. I usually ask if the rep has ever heard of sprintusers.com, and so far I have not talked to a single one who knows what this site is. I guess they just mainly show up to collect a paycheck and don't really care about learning more about their job.

[lgmayka]

I guess they just mainly show up to collect a paycheck and don't really care about learning more about their job.
To be fair, I must point out that it is primarily the employer's responsibility to train employees on company time. If the employee can't or won't learn, that's his fault; but if the employer refuses to give the employee time to learn, that's the employer's fault.

[AlphaWolf]

On this subject, has there been any official word on whether or not a 5700 model will ever be released? So far everything I have seen looks to be speculation. AFAICT Sanyo doesn't even plan on making a 5700.

[Ricky]

So what are we 9000 owners gonna do if we need to go thru lockline?

[ZiggyZ]

Users of the phone will end up just receiving a refurb 9000 as a replacement unless new ones are available and/or the latest comprable phone.

[kewlazme]

Its no longer on the Sprint site from what I can see. I'd like to buy one today tho, do you think Sprint Stores still have them in stock ?

-EDIT-
I just called 3 sprint stores by my house, all of them are out of stock, all of them say the phone has not been discontinued yet and they it just came out a month or so ago... but who knows what they know.

[stfuownzu]

RadioShack still has them :) Plenty really.

[pelermon]

Yep C/S told me 12/31/05 it is discontinued.

She mentioned something about a 3500 next, no details except March or April.
Can't wait that long but I will not buy a non-BlueTooth or non expandable memory phone.
Would really like wi-fi.

I currently have all that, with the 6700. But battery sucks and I'm not comfortable stuffing this in my pocket.

I was headed for the 9000, then decided non-BlueTooth was not acceptable.

Unless they can speed up the shutter speed of the 940, the 920 seems the be the "Best of Breed" right now.

Sanyo needs to step up. 2.0 mp- BlueTooth - Wi-Fi - Expandable memory (Which they have. Please stay with miniSD.) - Design.
Then I'm with em.

[kewlazme]

RadioShack still has them :) Plenty really.

yea I just called best buy and they said they have some too. I'll be going to get mine today in about an hour :)

[sel1965]

Why would they discontinue this phone when they don't have anything comparable yet to replace it? Sprint may have ordered a new shipment and it hasn't arrived yet, and the warehouse is out of stock hence the reason it's not on the website anymore. I just don't think they are going to shoot themselves in the foot with a very good selling phone take it out off the market when they don't have anything to replace it yet and probably won't for another 3 months at least.

[pelermon]

It doesn't matter "why"
It is what it is.

I just saw the 920 next to the 9000.
9000 isn't even in the same class.
Sanyo needs to step it up.

[sel1965]

It doesn't matter "why"
It is what it is.

I just saw the 920 next to the 9000.
9000 isn't even in the same class.
Sanyo needs to step it up.

Open up the phone then you will see the difference, there is no mistaking a QVGA screen over a TFT screen. That's the "why"! The Sanyo performance wise is hands down better than the samsung, sanyo just didn't waste a lot of frills where it didn't need to go. That will come in time. Sorry hope I didn't burst your bubble there! Oh I have the a900 and the a940 as well!

[zackrhodes]

Why would they discontinue this phone when they don't have anything comparable yet to replace it? Sprint may have ordered a new shipment and it hasn't arrived yet, and the warehouse is out of stock hence the reason it's not on the website anymore. I just don't think they are going to shoot themselves in the foot with a very good selling phone take it out off the market when they don't have anything to replace it yet and probably won't for another 3 months at least.

my theory is that since the espn phone will be out soon they do not want to sell the same phone. if people want the 9000 they will have to buy the espn version. they maybe alowed the 9000 to be released in limited production so that regular sprint customers could "beta" test the phone so that if there were any bugs they could be fixed so the espn crowd wont end up with a buggy phone.

[sel1965]

my theory is that since the espn phone will be out soon they do not want to sell the same phone. if people want the 9000 they will have to buy the espn version. they maybe alowed the 9000 to be released in limited production so that regular sprint customers could "beta" test the phone so that if there were any bugs they could be fixed so the espn crowd wont end up with a buggy phone.

The ESPN phone cannot be used if you are a sprint cust so that shoots that down as well.

[zackrhodes]

The ESPN phone cannot be used if you are a sprint cust so that shoots that down as well.

well if that is the case then the deal espn has with sprint might state that only they have the right to sell that phone. also that makes me more than ever believe that the 9000's sprint release was a espn beta test.

[Cnorwapo]

If that is the case then Sprint took us all for suckers who purchased the phone.....or maybe we were Ginnie Pigs

1. no case for the phone
2. no extended battery
3. etc etc

[lgmayka]

1. no case for the phone
2. no extended battery
3. etc etc
The case, and the extended battery, for the 5600 fit the 9000 quite well.

[SmplyD]

I have been looking at the 9000 with envy, waiting until after the 1st when I get all my Christmas money to upgrade my plan and buy the new phone. Now I look and the website doesn't have the phone anymore.

I am a high-end phone user, I will accept nothing less. First of all, the main requirement for a phone of mine has to be QVGA, period, no ifs, ands or buts. The 9000 seemed to be the perfect fit for me, since I have had my 5300 for three years. I would have liked for some external mods, so much so that I briefly considered going to the a900, but once I played with that phone in person, and the lack of support and memory (flash or otherwise), the decision was pretty clear.

I've never really cared for Samsungs... I know some people are loyal to that company, but it's just not my bag. I'm a Sanyo man myself - they are just superior in the areas that are important to me (although Sanyo innovation has been sorely lacking lately). But now the 9000 seems to be discontinued, and there is no high-end Sanyo phone which is comparable. I certainly will not be able to hold out until the 2nd quarter of next year before I upgrade my 3 and a half year phone. What am I to do? If Sanyo isn't careful, I will have to buy a Samsung, and before you know it I (and probably several others) will be loyal Samsung users... not by choice, but by circumstance.

Sprint and Sanyo, let's get it together!!

[zackrhodes]

If that is the case then Sprint took us all for suckers who purchased the phone.....or maybe we were Ginnie Pigs

1. no case for the phone
2. no extended battery
3. etc etc

well think about it; why the odd model number, 9000? at first everyone thought it was that all new sprint evdo phone model numbers would start with 9. but now that the 7500 is out we know that that is not the case. eveyone thought at first that this was the update of the 5600, but now we know better it is just a slightly upgraded 5600 with evdo. and we all now await the "holy grail", the sanyo 5700. as i have stated, imho the 9000 was just a test so that espn would feel confident in putting thier name on a rock solid phone. oh and i am sure the espn phone will have a ton of accessories that will work on the 9000. :)

[pelermon]

Open up the phone then you will see the difference, there is no mistaking a QVGA screen over a TFT screen. That's the "why"! The Sanyo performance wise is hands down better than the samsung, sanyo just didn't waste a lot of frills where it didn't need to go. That will come in time. Sorry hope I didn't burst your bubble there! Oh I have the a900 and the a940 as well!

Bubble ? Silly boy.
I don't have either one yet either (I have a 6700), but I sure hope I can get one of those obsolete 9000's. ---------------------------- not

Thats great - screen quality is the only thing that really matters.
I have it all wrong.
Now I see your right.


Hmmm so you have a 900 & 940 (crap) nice try. You missed it. Try 920

oh --- your the guy that thinks the 900 is "awsome"

hee hee

Kids


Sorry sel - But your the one that thinks its cute to get obnoxious.

[sel1965]

Bubble ? Silly boy.
I don't have either one yet either (I have a 6700), but I sure hope I can get one of those obsolete 9000's. ---------------------------- not

Thats great - screen quality is the only thing that really matters.
I have it all wrong.
Now I see your right.


Hmmm so you have a 900 & 940 (crap) nice try. You missed it. Try 920

oh --- your the guy that thinks the 900 is "awsome"

hee hee

Kids


Sorry sel - But your the one that thinks its cute to get obnoxious.

Some people need those types of phones in order to keep themselves straight. The rest of us just need a phone that makes and receives calls like it's supposed to. Which thankfully all of the mentioned phones do very well without error! Oh wow and think they do all look good too! I'm so glad to have it all! Nice perfect working phones 2 of 3 QVGA screens great working cameras, man maybe you should crawl back under the rock you came from you just might find a friend to talk to! Kids, more than likely the only kid here is you! The lack of respect for others in todays youth is showing in you!

[ELI]

Just checked the SPRINTPCS.COM website. It is no longer showing as one of the phones they're selling. I really like the idea of voice activated dialing without voice training. A neighbor of mine has a Cingular Motorola phone. I pushed a button and told it what numbers to dial and it dialed them. I told it the name of a person in the contacts list and it dialed it. That's a good feature when in your car. I believe the MM9000 has that feature. But it doesn't have Bluetooth! I just bought the Jabra A210 adapter and the Jabra BT500. Prety good. But I'd really enjoy the convenience without having the A210 dangling to the phone. Hoping that Sanyo will come out with a new MM9000 type phone with Bluetooth.

[jaw3net]

It's no longer on the Sprint website. Any idea what will replace it? The 5700 perhaps?

[Marlon_JB2]

I'd guess the 5700 will replace it... if it exists?

[ScrewDaShack]

Well the 5700 for now i think but the 9040 isnt far from launch at this point. If you were thinking of getting a 9000 dont let this change your mind, it was a limited edition phone : )

[ssaifull]

Well the 5700 for now i think but the 9040 isnt far from launch at this point.

there is no 5700 nor 9040 on the FCC website. that means that they only exist in your imagination.

[ScrewDaShack]

The 9040 prototype from our last meeting is expected to be released early march. I never once said they were already produced. As for the 5700 its still my opinion that one was a rumor that got out of control because i have still yet to see one.

[fl00d_pr0z]

If there were test phones, they would be on the FCC site

[fl00d_pr0z]

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84198&highlight=9000+discontinued

[ScrewDaShack]

they had it bro

[ssaifull]

The 9040 prototype from our last meeting is expected to be released early march. I never once said they were already produced. As for the 5700 its still my opinion that one was a rumor that got out of control because i have still yet to see one.

alright then. tell us about this "9040 prototype". what did it look like?

[CoreyTheGent]

So, the infamous 9040 actually does exist? Please, give us the meat and potatoes already, S2S. I want every single detail. When was this meeting held, what did the 9040 look like, what's the difference between it and the 5700, etc.

I'm not doubting you, just hungry for info on any upcoming Sanyo.

[fl00d_pr0z]

Odd that a phone would exist that hasn't been FCC tested.

[ssaifull]

Odd that a phone would exist that hasn't been FCC tested.

Phones at latest hit the FCC website 30-45 days before release. Seeing as S2S is claiming an early March release, it should hit the FCC within the next few weeks. I am doubtful because no one yet has corroborated "9040" or its existence. Recently, atleast.

Corey, we must not let our hunger blind us ;)

[ScrewDaShack]

They said they are hopeful for a march release, but things dont always go that way. I mean look at Half-Life 2, if your a gaming fan, there we multiple leaked betas but it was postponed over a year n a half.

The 9040 they had was almost identical to my 9000 expect that it was all silver with a black center (around the screen). The screen is longer, like that of the 5600, but wider than the 5600 was. It had a minisd slot, camera, etc. If it wasnt for the screen i would have said it was a 9000 in a new color scheme. As for features it was the same as the 9000 EXCEPT that they actually stated the expandle memory was to 2gig (unlike the 9000 whicxh only states one but can use 2) and it WILL be bluetooth.

The meeting was actually for the sprint reps (not RS) but my friend is a manager and i was allowed to go with him. It was last tuesday in Vineland. I'm hopeful that they will release the phone when they say they will, because i am kinda disappointed my 9000 isnt a bluetooth a phone.

If im wrong ill be the first one to admit it, i got no reason to bs anyone to try and make myself look smart. I could make up stuff all day but when it doesnt come to surface i would just look like a jackass, so why bother? Lol. I can only go off what was said, and hope that they dont leave me hanging out there.

[ScrewDaShack]

Since someone asked, the hinge design seemed exactly the same to me but my friend thinks it was a tad thicker than the 9000.

[AlphaWolf]

There are far too many indications to me that the 5700 is purely rumor.

They said they are hopeful for a march release, but things dont always go that way. I mean look at Half-Life 2, if your a gaming fan, there we multiple leaked betas but it was postponed over a year n a half.

Well, that is mostly due to valve being pretty bad when it comes to software engineering (not only does every bit of software they release come out years after its release date, it also comes out incomplete.)

As for features it was the same as the 9000 EXCEPT that they actually stated the expandle memory was to 2gig (unlike the 9000 whicxh only states one but can use 2) and it WILL be bluetooth.

They knew it would be expandable to that, but they couldn't advertise it as such until a 2GB minisd card actually came out.

[james2K]

I hope we see the 9040 S2S. Seems logical I guess, limited edition 9000 to get PV to market then the slightly upgraded version afterward. As long as there's something in the lineup from sanyo like the 9000 thats cool. Even if it's not the end-all sanyo. Silver with all black center? Sounds like the 5600. I like the 9000's color scheme better. I don't need bluetooth either.

[ScrewDaShack]

I like the black 9000, but my store didnt get any so i settled for my baby : )

OT: yea valve was ungodly horrible so its kinda a bad analogy, but man it was insane how they kept pushing it back.

[KAT]

Ok, so so far we have a 9000 with different color scheme, wider internal display, and BT. Sounds good so far. I don't care what they call it, the 5700, 9040, 98345jut73, I just want the next high end Sanyo that doesn't have less features than the 9000. S2S, any more info you may have forgot about in your post about the 9040 would be greatly appreciated, or any new info as it comes in, of course.

[AlphaWolf]

I think it would be best to take everything you hear about sanyo's future "flagship" phone with a grain of salt honestly.

[KAT]

I think it would be best to take everything you hear about sanyo's future "flagship" phone with a grain of salt honestly.
Yeah I know, hard not to get impatient sometimes, can't find the 9000 around here, just hungry for new info on whatever Sanyo's next top phone will be, "Flagship" or not.

[ssaifull]

Yeah, until any of this is corroborated by a reputed source, I'm gonna put it in the 'rampant speculation' category. Not trying to knock you S2S, but you are new here.

[CoreyTheGent]

To be honest, SS, it sounds perfectly logical. It's the same tired game Sanyo's been running on us for the past couple years. Hopefully by 2007 they'll have the 5th-Generation-5600 with a 2mp camera.

[AlphaWolf]

Hmm...I don't understand, how would it be 5th generation? What similar phones came before the 5600?

[CoreyTheGent]

The 1st Generation was the 5600

The 2nd Generation is the 5600 with EV-DO (9000)

The 3rd Generation is the 5600 with EV-DO and Bluetooth (9040)

The 4th Generation is the 5600 with EV-DO Rev A and Bluetooth (9080)

The 5th Generation is the 5600 with EV-DO Rev A, Bluetooth, and a 2mp camera (9100)

All in the same tired casing with subtle changes to make us believe some thought actually went into the phone's design.

[ssaifull]

Will Sanyo return to greatness? Only if they can once again deliver a 5500-esque handset. They really need to look to their past and see what took them to the top in Sprint's lineup. Innovative, sleek design. Nice, comparatively compact form factor. That's what they need to do. And of course, add Bluetooth. Other than that, they are already golden, that's one reason I still have hope. Their UI is so fast and improved, it puts Samsung to shame. I'm sure if they came through and delivered with such a phone, many would jump back to Sanyo--I know I surely would. The only reason I have a Samsung is by default because Sanyo is slipping.

[ssaifull]

The 1st Generation was the 5600

The 2nd Generation is the 5600 with EV-DO (9000)

The 3rd Generation is the 5600 with EV-DO and Bluetooth (9040)

The 4th Generation is the 5600 with EV-DO Rev A and Bluetooth (9080)

The 5th Generation is the 5600 with EV-DO Rev A, Bluetooth, and a 2mp camera (9100)

All in the same tired casing with subtle changes to make us believe some thought actually went into the phone's design.

LOL what a morbid scenario! I do appreciate the hyperbole though... but you clearly elucidate the same point I'm trying to make--Sanyo needs to work on their designs!!! They got the brains but NO beauty whatsoever!

The 7500 is an odd looking step back in the popular 7000 series. The 8300 sports only minor improvements over the 8200 and is a rehash, pretty much. And the 9000 is a complete rehash, whose neglected design and large size are detractors.

[CoreyTheGent]

... The only reason I have a Samsung is by default because Sanyo is slipping.Yeah, you and every other Samsung handset owner around here. It would be my only reason for purchasing a Samsung in the Sprint lineup, by default. I'm already tired of Motorola/Verizon and ready to run back to Sanyo but, until they give me a reason to, I might as well buy another damn V3c and just wait it out.

I will remain out of contract, however. I will remain waiting for you, Sanyo...

[Ovaltine224]

The phones havent been discontinued. They are still on the Sprints website, just not in public viewing because they are out of stock

[SECI]

*sigh*
People, remember the 9040 rumor originally came from a "meeting" in which Sanyo showed a "black" 7500 with side LED lights and Bluetooth:( That didn't pan out and I don't expect this one either.

[KAT]

Yeah, you and every other Samsung handset owner around here. It would be my only reason for purchasing a Samsung in the Sprint lineup, by default. I'm already tired of Motorola/Verizon and ready to run back to Sanyo but, until they give me a reason to, I might as well buy another damn V3c and just wait it out.

I will remain out of contract, however. I will remain waiting for you, Sanyo...
Yeah, if Sanyo doesn't come out with one or two serious handsets within the next six months or so, I don't know what to say, Samsung has really had the upper hand latley, whether you like them or not....... But I haven't given up on Sanyo yet, it seems they have to do something soon if they want to stay competitive, at least in the high end market.

[CoreyTheGent]

*sigh*
People, remember the 9040 rumor originally came from a "meeting" in which Sanyo showed a "black" 7500 with side LED lights and Bluetooth:( That didn't pan out and I don't expect this one either.Yeah, I'm waiting for the new ultra high-end 2mp Samsung A960, myself. It's gonna combine the great camera of the A800 with a slim clamshell form-factor. Look for it to take the a940's place in a month or two.

[james2K]

Here's a quick question. When has sanyo ever been more revolutionary than evolutionary with their designs? Rehashes are what they do...look at...everything. The blade and 920 were very tempting to me, but there still isn't a phone in the lineup with QVGA and memory card, so the 9000 was the way to go. I can't blame anybody for dropping their sanyos right now tho, the designs in ALL their phones are growing old.

[ssaifull]

Deval has stated that most of the preliminary specs that were mentioned for this phone, the A960 were off... personally I think it will be an upgrade to the A880.

[reemusk]

it's this simple...

Sanyo isn't going to have three high end phones with the same features...camera, expandable memory, etc etc.


look how many times the a800 was off the site and back on. ppc-6600...SCP-5500...


It could be EOL, and I don't see why not, but that doesn't mean it has to have a replacement immedietly following it.

[reemusk]

Here's a quick question. When has sanyo ever been more revolutionary than evolutionary with their designs? Rehashes are what they do...look at...everything. The blade and 920 were very tempting to me, but there still isn't a phone in the lineup with QVGA and memory card, so the 9000 was the way to go. I can't blame anybody for dropping their sanyos right now tho, the designs in ALL their phones are growing old.


i WISH there were some things they would re-hash...5500 buttons. I'm anti-8300 buttons (8200, 8300, 7500, 9000). Although I am glad they brought the style of the four soft keys and circular menu selector to the next level of models.

[KAT]

Here's a quick question. When has sanyo ever been more revolutionary than evolutionary with their designs? Rehashes are what they do...look at...everything. The blade and 920 were very tempting to me, but there still isn't a phone in the lineup with QVGA and memory card, so the 9000 was the way to go. I can't blame anybody for dropping their sanyos right now tho, the designs in ALL their phones are growing old.
I agree with you, personally, I'm really not torn between Sanyo and Samsung, even at this point. To each their own, but the 9000 seems to be as good as any phone out there, and I'd still rather have that phone than some fancy Samsung with no card or QVGA. I'll go with substance over design, but again, the 9000 doesn't look bad to me at all anyway. Damn, I'm almost ready to just go out and get the phone now if I could find one and be done with it.

Edit: I hope I don't sound as if I'm knocking Samsung phones, I'm not. If a Samsung came along that really did it for me, well, I never say never.....

[NightWinggl]

I know the reason it got discontinued with Sprint is because it was a test Market phone with the a940, but It's kind of annoying to the all 5600 users who need replacements for their phone, not to have comparible phone replacement in Sprint stores.

Adding insult to injury it really bother some when you work at Shack have 3 Sanyo 9000s in stock, and the Sprint store across the Street has none and won't be getting any.... So they can't Warranty replace it... arg...

[james2K]

I agree with you, personally, I'm really not torn between Sanyo and Samsung, even at this point. To each their own, but the 9000 seems to be as good as any phone out there, and I'd still rather have that phone than some fancy Samsung with no card or QVGA. I'll go with substance over design, but again, the 9000 doesn't look bad to me at all anyway. Damn, I'm almost ready to just go out and get the phone now if I could find one and be done with it.

Edit: I hope I don't sound as if I'm knocking Samsung phones, I'm not. If a Samsung came along that really did it for me, well, I never say never.....

Yeah, at the time when the A700 and 7400 were the only multimedia phones I got to use both for a few months on end each and both were excellent. They both had very similar features, didn't lose anything either way really. I'm just at a stage where I needed to 'take it to the next level.' So even though this phone (9000) is a remake of the 5600, it suits my needs better than any current samsung model. If you are a fan of sanyo designs, this phone is a good one. The grey with the stripes is very nice looking, in a sort of conservative way I guess. So in turn, I wouldn't buy a phone that I thought was ugly.

[KAT]

Yeah, at the time when the A700 and 7400 were the only multimedia phones I got to use both for a few months on end each and both were excellent. They both had very similar features, didn't lose anything either way really. I'm just at a stage where I needed to 'take it to the next level.' So even though this phone (9000) is a remake of the 5600, it suits my needs better than any current samsung model. If you are a fan of sanyo designs, this phone is a good one. The grey with the stripes is very nice looking, in a sort of conservative way I guess. So in turn, I wouldn't buy a phone that I thought was ugly.
Well, I guess what some think as 'ugly' can be somewhat subjective, eh? Look at the new a960, many seem to think that is ugly, but if it really has all the features you'd want in a phone, many would probably just get used to the design, even grow to like it, simply because it's such a hot rod phone (hopefully) that has all the goodies you want. I was very hot on the a700 when it first came out, I also thought it looked good. When I went to get it, they were out, and the Sprint guy showed me the 7400, saying get that, it's a better phone anyway. Believe it or not, I could not stomach the looks of the thing, and passed. Then I did some research on it, and read tons of reviews, mostly all positive. I decided to get it, loved it, and now I think it's one of the nicest looking phones around. I also liked the idea that it didn't quite look like all the rest. So I guess if a phone came out that had every single feature I wanted, it would have to be beyond ugly for me to pass on it, and I can't imagine why anyone would build a phone that ugly anyway. I will pass on any slider or candybar design tho, it's gotta be a flip for me.

[lgmayka]

Sanyo isn't going to have three high end phones with the same features...camera, expandable memory, etc etc.
What are you talking about? If Sprint discontinues the 9000, then the Sanyo product line will have no phones with either a memory slot or a QVGA screen. Haven't you heard that the 5600 was discontinued some time ago, and the 7500 is a midrange phone with neither QVGA nor memory slot.

[lgmayka]

Yeah, I'm waiting for the new ultra high-end 2mp Samsung A960, myself. It's gonna combine the great camera of the A800 with a slim clamshell form-factor.
Haven't you heard? The FCC has released the A960's specs. It is a mere midrange phone:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=810153

It has neither a 2MP camera, nor a QVGA screen, nor a memory slot.

[fl00d_pr0z]

With the 9000 now discontinued there seems to be a hole in Sprint's lineup.

[KAT]

What are you talking about? If Sprint discontinues the 9000, then the Sanyo product line will have no phones with either a memory slot or a QVGA screen. Haven't you heard that the 5600 was discontinued some time ago, and the 7500 is a midrange phone with neither QVGA nor memory slot.
Well, if this phone isn't dicontinued, it might as well be, I think I might have a better chance at winning the Lotto than to get a 9000 around here, what are they thinking then? Do they wanna make some money with this product or not? It's about time they get to steppin' and re-stock just about every Shack and Sprint Store in the USA don't ya think? It makes no sense to me either way, they lose money by discontinuing so soon, but if it's not disco'd, they don't have any to get, and lose money again, sounds like a lose/lose situation for Sanyo, and it's customers.

[Sanyo77]

Maybe it just wasn't selling. At my store the Samsungs are going MUCH quicker. There seems to be a multimedia phone craze and Sanyo is missing out with no Bluetooth...

What Sanyo needs is a new 6000 series phone. Sanyo invented the thin phone, they can perfect it.

[reemusk]

What are you talking about? If Sprint discontinues the 9000, then the Sanyo product line will have no phones with either a memory slot or a QVGA screen. Haven't you heard that the 5600 was discontinued some time ago, and the 7500 is a midrange phone with neither QVGA nor memory slot.


the 7500 a mid range phone? the retail price suggests not.

yes, i am aware of the demise of the 5600.

but are you aware that these people are taking about 2-3 phones coming out with the same features?

[lgmayka]

the 7500 a mid range phone? the retail price suggests not.

yes, i am aware of the demise of the 5600.

but are you aware that these people are taking about 2-3 phones coming out with the same features?
You are correct that the 7500's price is out of proportion to its (lack of) features: No memory slot, no QVGA screen, not even Bluetooth. It is clearly the least-featured Sprint EV-DO phone yet.

I am aware of 'talk' about mythical phones that have no confirmed existence yet: 5700, 9040. You are correct that it is extremely unlikely that more than one of these rumored models will actually emerge at the high end.

[JessicaAlbaFan1]

Quick question:
If there aren't any Sanyo 9000's to send out (say from Lockline or whatever), what do you get as a replacement?

[Printing]

Quick question:
If there aren't any Sanyo 9000's to send out (say from Lockline or whatever), what do you get as a replacement?
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[xxxFUELFORFIREx]

:) my friend just ordered a 9000 3 days ago and recieved yesterday.

[ScrewDaShack]

remains yet to be seen as to what will replace the 9000 on an insurance claim

[Ovaltine224]

anyone know what will replace a 535 on an insurance claim?

[Printing]

anyone know what will replace a 535 on an insurance claim?

Maybe this:

[KAT]

the 7500 a mid range phone? the retail price suggests not.

yes, i am aware of the demise of the 5600.

but are you aware that these people are taking about 2-3 phones coming out with the same features?
To me the retail price for the 7500 suggests that it's over priced, especially since the 9000 which IMO is a way better phone goes for the same price.

[AlphaWolf]

Quick question:
If there aren't any Sanyo 9000's to send out (say from Lockline or whatever), what do you get as a replacement?
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LOL :D

Actually they *try* to give you an 8300, which is equally bad when compared to the 9000 or the 535. They seriously try to rob you blind here.

[fl00d_pr0z]

I would not consider the 7500 a high end phone either, but that's just my opinion.

[rquinn19]

I would not consider the 7500 a high end phone either, but that's just my opinion.

At the present time I'd have to consider it high end just because of EVDO.

edit: even though it doesnt have removable memory it does still have one of the largest internal memorys. I loved my 7400 and i wouldve had no problem upgrading to the 7500 and liking it.

[SmplyD]

I think it would be best to take everything you hear about sanyo's future "flagship" phone with a grain of salt honestly.

I would just be happy for Sanyo to have a flagship phone, which obviously is not the case right now.

[Ovaltine224]

Maybe this:

can you like leave this forum

[SmplyD]

Maybe it just wasn't selling. At my store the Samsungs are going MUCH quicker. There seems to be a multimedia phone craze and Sanyo is missing out with no Bluetooth...

What Sanyo needs is a new 6000 series phone. Sanyo invented the thin phone, they can perfect it.

If you go back in time just a little bit, you will see posts of rumors of the 9000 being discontinued just a couple of weeks after it was released. It seems Sprint only ordered a limited number from Sanyo initially and it was just a limited edition phone to launch with EV-DO. Sure enough, those rumors came to fruition and the phone was disco'd at the end of December just like predicted.

It seems like the people who are going to be upgrading to use the new Power Vision service would also be the ones interested in the high-end phones, specifically with QVGA screens. I mean, when you're talking about watching TV and video on a tiny cell phone screen, wouldn't it make the most sense that people would want to watch that on the biggest screen real estate they could get? Despite that, only two QVGA phones launched with Power Vision, and one is now discontinued. Doesn't make much sense to me. I would imagine Sprint would want to maximize the amount of people signing up to PV in the first months of its launch to make it as successful as possible. They could have gotten a lot of help with that from Sanyo, but alas, it does not seem destined to be.

[SmplyD]

my theory is that since the espn phone will be out soon they do not want to sell the same phone. if people want the 9000 they will have to buy the espn version. they maybe alowed the 9000 to be released in limited production so that regular sprint customers could "beta" test the phone so that if there were any bugs they could be fixed so the espn crowd wont end up with a buggy phone.

The ESPN MVP does not work with the Sprint network. The MVP phone is only for the ESPN branded cell network (which uses the Sprint network). Even though they are the same networks, you can't use the phone with your Sprint account.

[Ovaltine224]

samsungs are selling fast because they all look different from one another and look good and are innovative. when you look at sanyos bland line, they all are similar, and just mere updates from past models. but then again, with sanyo straying away from the popular aspect, their phones seem to be the most stable and reliable.

and i too wonder why they would limit release the 9000. Hopefully theres another in the works. or mayb they wanted the 9000 to be only available for the ESPN edition. im still waiting to see how the 3100 turns out. but from prototype makeups, it looks like another bland looking sanyo phone.

but what i dont understand is why cant companies program a phone so its not sooo buggy. I mean, when i heard about OTA updates, i thought that this was a way for companies to push out phones faster with not enough testing and just fix problems with them from time to time OTA. and the difference is there. my a660 is still working fine after 2 years. My 535, with OTA, is dying on me now after 6 months.

[Chris Price]

Heh, there may be another 535 update out soon... FOTA in action.

[Ovaltine224]

Heh, there may be another 535 update out soon... FOTA in action.

u have any idea what its going to fix? cuz my screen keeps going out and my battery has 15mins talk time (yes i no, pathetic). i wanna use my warranty and get it switched before an update comes out haha i want that 900

[Chris Price]

I really don't want to get into specifics because it may not be released... it's not a crucial update, but it will fix some quirks with the phone if it is released.

[Ovaltine224]

I really don't want to get into specifics because it may not be released... it's not a crucial update, but it will fix some quirks with the phone if it is released.

please do. i wanna know whats comin up.

[Chris Price]

It sounds like your problems are hardware, it sounds like it's out of warranty, but if it isn't I would get it replaced.

[Ovaltine224]

It sounds like your problems are hardware, it sounds like it's out of warranty, but if it isn't I would get it replaced.

o ya its still under warranty. i work for sprint myself, but im just lookin at what i can get for it. my store doesnt do replacements but i no some people at a store that does and ima try and get the most i can

[Chris Price]

The easiest way for you may be just to send it in to LG directly... they were one of the first to handle direct warranty processing.

[Ovaltine224]

ya but then i would get the same phone. im tryna get a diff new one. which i surely will

[Chris Price]

True, but, it's a lot easier to sell off a new/refurbished 535 than a dying one...

[SmplyD]

Even though it doesnt have removable memory it does still have one of the largest internal memorys.

What is the internal memory capacity for the 7500?

[KAT]

What is the internal memory capacity for the 7500?
I think it's 70 mb, which isn't so bad, now, if it only had a card slot as well......

[Ovaltine224]

they shoulda made the a900 around 70mgs too

[Chris Price]

Well, both are about 70, but, you have to take into account about 5 for the system memory, 11 for java and downloads, so in the end the goal was to have 45 MB accessible on both devices for music dedicated content.

[Ovaltine224]

oo so the 7500 has 45? i read that it had 70 right out of the box for everything.

[Chris Price]

If I recall correctly, haven't spent a lot of quality time with the 7500, it was a difference in implementation. Samsung implemented "hard limits" to ensure that java/game/rintone/app memory was sealed off to a firm 11 MB, Sanyo I think went with it so that the 70 MB was shared amongst all features. But, someone with a 7500 should confirm that...

[Ovaltine224]

u got any info on whats replacing the 9000?

[SmplyD]

u got any info on whats replacing the 9000?

Yeah right... that's the Holy Grail of Sprint information right now. Noone seems to know anything but whispers and conjecture.

[Ovaltine224]

lol whatever happened to the 9040? was that just a mere speculation?

[SmplyD]

There is no solid information for either the 9040 or the 5700. Doesn't look like we'll know anything until it shows up on the FCC website, if ever.

[Ovaltine224]

im hopin for successors to the 535, 9000, and 4050(which i doubt)

[zackrhodes]

The ESPN MVP does not work with the Sprint network. The MVP phone is only for the ESPN branded cell network (which uses the Sprint network). Even though they are the same networks, you can't use the phone with your Sprint account.

i understand that, but sprints and espn's relationship is closer than just use of the network. Other providers who use the sprint network don't get to use sanyo phones. only sprint can use sanyo (in the us anyway).

but if you were starting your own cell network, using the sprint network, why not have them release a limited number of the phone, you will soon exclusively use, to make sure it works and works well. Otherwise you may end up with a lot of unhappy sports fanatics.

[james2K]

:good:

That's a very plausable scenario. I hope they have another production run for the 9000. We need to let sprint know that this phone is needed in the lineup and that many people still want to buy one.

[SmplyD]

You would think that the BigWhigs at Sprint would have someone using this site to take notes and keep their finger on the pulse of what their most dedicated users think about their company, thus allowing them to be in touch with what their loyal customers need and want.

Unfortunately they realize that even though we are their most loyal accounts, they also realize that we are in the extreme minority, and most of their millions of customers are happy with the free phones they receive on sign-up and need no more customer care than the minimum the company can get away with and sign up new customers while keeping the recurring customers, as long as the hassle switching to a new provider outweighs the inconvenience of the spotty customer service Sprint and every other cell phone companies provide.

I have a love-hate relationship with Sprint. I know that we have one of the better companies with a number of benefits and trade-offs... but at the same time, I know that Sprint is constantly looking for new ways to take advantage of their loyal customers in order to increase the bottom line of their shareholders and executives. In some respects I almost hope they go too far to instigate a huge backlash, which will in turn make them rethink their strategy in order to regain their market share and win back the users they will have alienated.

[lgmayka]

Aficionados--"experts" like those of us who post in these forums--help guide the opinions and purchasing decisions of many other actual and potential customers around us--family, friends, even acquaintances who notice our phones.

[james2K]

So in turn they won't bring a phone back for 10 of us sprintusers right? Was sorta juiced last night and felt a revolution coming on!!

[Printing]

I just got off the phone with Sanyo's Wireless phone consumer division. They told me that Sprint hasn't ordered any more 9000's and If I want that phone I should sign up for the MVP service since that is the same phone witha few added features. They also said they had not even heard rumors of a phone to replace the 9000. I said I wasn't that interested in ESPN so the extra cost of those plans would be a waste.

I then called Telesales and explained my dilema. They confirmed that the 9000 has been removed from their system, and they cannot order them anymore. She strongly suggested I get an a900 but I declined. The only other suggestion she had was to look at Nextel's selection. That way I wouldn't have any ETF charges and PCS to PCS would still be included. Any Ideas on a good Moto phone?

[Printing]

THE Sanyo mm9000 is officially DEAD with Sprint. It cannot be ordered through telesales. There are a few still floating around in Sprint stores and RS, but that is it. Sanyo confirmed to me that Sprint hasn't ordered any more 9000's. They are not developing a replacement high-end phone. The MVP phone will be the top of the line Sanyo for a long, long time. No 5700, no 9040.

[ssaifull]

THE Sanyo mm9000 is officially DEAD with Sprint. It cannot be ordered through telesales. There are a few still floating around in Sprint stores and RS, but that is it. Sanyo confirmed to me that Sprint hasn't ordered any more 9000's. They are not developing a replacement high-end phone. The MVP phone will be the top of the line Sanyo for a long, long time. No 5700, no 9040.

This is simply not true. Current telesales stock is at 165 units with another order coming in on Wednesday 1/11/06.

You say they are not developing a replacement high-end phone, and you can almost get away with that, because we haven't seen evidence yet that they are. But remember, lack of evidence (or intel) is NOT evidence. I think you proffer such a statement as reverse psychology, hoping against hope that someone in the know comes out and refutes your claim.

And IMO, the Sanyo MVP for the ESPN MVNO has no bearing on the Sprint lineup and it's offerings.

[Printing]

Why would Telesales say tell me that they have no 9000's if there are some in inventory? The rep. even suggested that I consider moving to the Nextel side if I don't like any of the current Sprint offerings. And where is this order coming from if Sanyo hasn't had any new orders from Sprint. And yes, I do hope that someone "in the know" can refute these statements if possible. All I am basing these statements on are 2 conversations with a Sanyo wireless consumer rep. and a Sprint telesales rep. less than 2 hours ago. The Sanyo rep seemed very informed and did not say that she couldn't give me any information because of confidentiality agreements, she simply was not aware of any current or future plans to develop a successor to the 9000. She did say that if Sprint orders more 9000 phones they would be happy to build them but as of todat, they have not done so.

[SmplyD]

This is simply not true. Current telesales stock is at 165 units with another order coming in on Wednesday 1/11/06.
How oh how I would love to believe this!! What is your source ssaifull? Why would telesales have the phone, but the website does not?

Also, if I were wanting to upgrade my contract through Customer Care or *2, would they be able to ship me one of those few remaining 9000s with the rebate?

The rep. even suggested that I consider moving to the Nextel side if I don't like any of the current Sprint offerings.
Are you for real?? If I decided to leave any company because of their lack of service/phones/whatever, what kind of an idiot would I have to be to just join the other side of the same company. If I am leaving a company it's because I'm going to make a statement... if Sprint pissed me off enough to leave, why would I in turn go through the hassle of cancelling my contract, rejoining through a "different" provider, and having my money all go to the same bank account??

Besides, Nextel phones suck. She needs to get her head checked.

[SmplyD]

Any Ideas on a good Moto phone?
I would say the RAZR, but we all know what a piece that phone really is.

[Keeping it Real]

Aficionados--"experts" like those of us who post in these forums--help guide the opinions and purchasing decisions of many other actual and potential customers around us--family, friends, even acquaintances who notice our phones.

Too bad that's completely irrelevant in the large picture.

You here can make alll the bizzare reasons as to why Sprint should do something different regarding a phone release, but to your suprise, they actually know what they are doing, to make money...hey! What a concept! Sprint is a money making profitable company who will do whatever suits their buisiness model best. They are not here to please the 1% minority who cry over the lack of a huge year and a half old phone that wasn't even SELLING in the first place.

How about we leave the running of the company to Sprint and reserve the arm-chair CEO comments for another time.

[lgmayka]

How about we leave the running of the company to Sprint and reserve the arm-chair CEO comments for another time.
That's a nice conversation killer, but it doesn't wash.

First, it assumes that the CEO of Sprint is the Wizard of Wall Street who knows better than anyone else in the universe how to make money ethically. Ha!

Second, it assumes that the CEO of Sprint is also a mind reader and knows what his customers want and think without their ever voicing an opinion. Do you really believe that? What other superpowers does he have?

[lgmayka]

Sprint is a money making profitable company who will do whatever suits their buisiness model best.
What you seem to be saying is that instead of just talking about what we'd like Sprint to do or not do, we should actually affect Sprint's bottom line by taking our business elsewhere, and taking the business of our family and friends along with us to another carrier. Many current customers of Sprint would agree with you on that course of action.

I am actually amazed by how often Sprint employees recommend that course of action in these forums.

[rdcrds]

Too bad that's completely irrelevant in the large picture.

You here can make alll the bizzare reasons as to why Sprint should do something different regarding a phone release, but to your suprise, they actually know what they are doing, to make money...hey! What a concept! Sprint is a money making profitable company who will do whatever suits their buisiness model best. They are not here to please the 1% minority who cry over the lack of a huge year and a half old phone that wasn't even SELLING in the first place.

How about we leave the running of the company to Sprint and reserve the arm-chair CEO comments for another time.


Am i missing something or are you taking about another phone? the mm9000 ius not 1 year and a half old my friend if im reading correct.

[hookedonitunes]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (MobilePhone MM-9000/US/1.0) NetFront/3.1 MMP/2.0)

i think they were talking about the 5600

[Keeping it Real]

That's a nice conversation killer, but it doesn't wash.

First, it assumes that the CEO of Sprint is the Wizard of Wall Street who knows better than anyone else in the universe how to make money ethically. Ha!

Second, it assumes that the CEO of Sprint is also a mind reader and knows what his customers want and think without their ever voicing an opinion. Do you really believe that? What other superpowers does he have?

Uh Hello!! Sprint has an entire department to worry about the handsets on the network, who's role is to deduce what phones customers will buy the most of, subsequently adding subscribers to Sprint! The educated people at CEBU are not stupid, and if they didn't order any more MM-9000s, there was a reason, whether it be poor sales, or disagreements on price with Sanyo...Nobody can sit here and set in concrete why CEBU made the decision they did...but hey...guess what...CEBU is there to trim the operation, cut costs, and detremine what handsets are best suited for the Sprint network...CEBU consists of a multitude of resources that goes beond Sprint's CEO, who has little to do with the handsets on the network.

[Keeping it Real]

What you seem to be saying is that instead of just talking about what we'd like Sprint to do or not do, we should actually affect Sprint's bottom line by taking our business elsewhere, and taking the business of our family and friends along with us to another carrier. Many current customers of Sprint would agree with you on that course of action.

I am actually amazed by how often Sprint employees recommend that course of action in these forums.

oh yes...sprint's WORST nightmare...attack of the Sprint Users Users to get everybody to LEAVE Sprint!!! All over the big bad Sanyo MM-9000! :lol:

[JessicaAlbaFan1]

I spoke with Lockline on Sunday trying to figure out what phone they would send out to 9000 users and the rep told me that there were not any 9000's in the wherehouse and that the phone is on backorder and that I would be waiting a while for a replacement. She couldn't however, tell me what other phone might it be replaced with...

[Keeping it Real]

Well, both are about 70, but, you have to take into account about 5 for the system memory, 11 for java and downloads, so in the end the goal was to have 45 MB accessible on both devices for music dedicated content.

That's the problem, though. The Sanyo MM-7500 doesn't even support USB Mass storage to put MP3s onto those MBs via the USB cable...All that the space is good for is MP3s downloaded from the music store.

[SmplyD]

Too bad that's completely irrelevant in the large picture.

You here can make alll the bizzare reasons as to why Sprint should do something different regarding a phone release, but to your suprise, they actually know what they are doing, to make money...hey! What a concept! Sprint is a money making profitable company who will do whatever suits their buisiness model best. They are not here to please the 1% minority who cry over the lack of a huge year and a half old phone that wasn't even SELLING in the first place.

How about we leave the running of the company to Sprint and reserve the arm-chair CEO comments for another time.

First of all, it's our right to b*tch, moan, and rant about whatever we want to on here. Secondly, Sprint may be making money right now, but it's the foundation they are laying right now that determines how and if they will continue to be profitable in the future. For all I know they may grow to surpass Wal*Mart, but for some reason I doubt it... handsets are the most important thing for cell phone providers - that is what draws new customers to the network. If Sprint doesn't carry handsets that compete with the slick and stylish new phones of other carriers, not only will they not attract as many new customers, they will find that previously loyal customers are hemorraging over to the other companies as well. Lastly, if we don't like something that Sprint is doing, we should speak out. What would you suggest, that if there is something we don't like about the company that we should just keep mum. This board isn't here so we can just sit around sucking Sprint's d*ck. Obviously if there is something we don't like, we should discuss it, and theoretically there are enough Sprint reps and others on here that if we create enough of a groundswell, hopefully we would be able to get something changed. But mostly, we just like to create debate with the like-minded individuals on the board.

[lgmayka]

they actually know what they are doing, to make money.
Absolutely false, with respect to handsets (which is what we are talking about). Sprint employees in these forums swear up and down that Sprint loses money on every handset it sells, even at full retail price. So in the handset market, Sprint is a total loser!

But, one might reply, Sprint does not see itself in the handset market at all. It sees itself in the wireless network market. It simply uses its pernicious monopolistic control over handsets in order to distort the market in favor of its network.

That tyrannical monopoly over handset interconnection is precisely the problem here.

Let's imagine for a moment a free market in which the FCC has mandated open handset interconnection on digital wireless networks, just as it did long ago for both wireline networks and analog wireless networks. Immediately, a company like Sanyo could mount a major ad campaign, touting the Sanyo MM-9000 as the single personal device that can do everything! The MM-9000 can play the role of:

- A wireless phone and pager
- A PDA (with a PC synching application that Sanyo could sell at a low price)
- A portable Web browser (with Opera Mini)
- An MP3 player (with a large-capacity memory card that Sanyo could sell at a decent price)
- A portable DVD player (with that same large-capacity memory card, plus a program like DVD Catalyst that Sanyo could sell at a low price)
- A GPS (with a GPS application that Sanyo could sell at a low price)
- A portable television set (with a streaming TV application that Sanyo could sell at a low price)
- Etc.

Such a device, properly marketed, could take the country by storm! Finally, everyone could carry one device that just does it all!

Naturally, other companies would quickly come out with worthy competing products, bringing prices down and spreading the technology throughout the land.

But instead, Sprint uses its monopolistic control over handsets to deliberately prevent this! Sprint doesn't want customers to use their phones as MP3 players--it would take away from Sprint's hoped-for Music Store sales. Similarly, Sprint doesn't want customers to use their phones as portable DVD players, because it might detract from sales of its own video clips.

Sprint is also apparently unenthusiastic about using a phone as a GPS, a Web browser, or a PDA, though I haven't figured out why. Why does Sprint fail to market its GPS applications, or the child-locating service of findumwireless.com? Why doesn't Sprint tell its handset suppliers to include Opera Mini and a PC synching application? I myself have no explanation for such marketing blunders. Anyone who thinks that Sprint knows how to make money should have to answer these questions.

[Keeping it Real]

You act as if Sprint isn't letting Sanyo run Television ads. Wrong. Sanyo can do whatever they want, but the truth is, Sanyo doesn't feel the need to.

[lgmayka]

Sanyo can do whatever they want, but the truth is, Sanyo doesn't feel the need to.
False, for a couple of reasons.

1) Sprint is still the official legal manufacturer and warrantor of Sanyo phones. Even besides that, Sprint retains all rights over the Sprint name and logo, anywhere they appear (e.g., on a phone in an ad). The net result, in practice, is that no handset supplier can run a single advertisement for a Sprint phone without Sprint's prior approval.

And you can bet that Sprint will only approve ads that mesh well with its own strategic plans. Any attempt by Sanyo or Samsung to liken their phones (the models with memory slots) to an MP3 player or portable DVD player would be quickly quashed by Sprint, who wants customers to buy its own overpriced songs and video clips.

2) Sprint's byzantine system of subsidies, discounts, and rebates ensures that models meeting Sprint's strategic goals sell well, and models not fitting into those plans sell poorly. Here's the most obvious bias: Because Sprint rewards new lines of service so heavily, while actually penalizing handset upgrades, Sprint ensures that entry-level phones--which are more appropriate for new lines of service--sell well, whereas full-featured phones--more appropriate for upgraders--sell relatively poorly.

Once customers have gotten a cell phone for "free" (i.e., an entry-level phone on a new line of service with $150 discount), they will forever after be reluctant to pay hundreds of dollars for a cell phone, even for one whose functionality combines that of a PDA, a GPS, an MP3 player, a portable DVD player, and a Gameboy.

[AlphaWolf]

- A portable DVD player (with that same large-capacity memory card, plus a program like DVD Catalyst that Sanyo could sell at a low price)

Technically this is illegal. The MPAA would throw a fit if anybody provided any kind of device for playing DVDs in any way shape or form without purchasing a license from the DVDCCA. And a requirement of the DVDCCA licenses is that all DVD players have strict content control restrictions, macrovision, etc.

[lgmayka]

Technically this is illegal. The MPAA would throw a fit if anybody provided any kind of device for playing DVDs in any way shape or form without purchasing a license from the DVDCCA.
Perhaps I did not make myself clear. I am referring to the existing ability of the Sanyo MM-9000 to play MPEG4 movies converted from a DVD. Many legal, commercially available programs facilitate this conversion from DVD format to a portable format suitable for play on a PocketPC, Palm PDA, or cell phone. Here are just a few, available for open purchase at handango.com and/or pocketgear.com:

DVD Catalyst
HandoVideo Converter
CarryDVD For All Devices
deset Pocket Video Maker
Video Vault PDA
Pocket DVD Wizard
Pocket DVD Studio
DVD to Pocket PC

I use DVD Catalyst, which is available from pocketgear.com. I originally used it to convert commercial DVD movies to 640x480 DivX for my Toshiba e800 PocketPC. I now use it also to convert movies to 176x144 MPEG4 for my Sanyo MM-9000.

The conversion from one medium to another, simply for the convenience of the owner, clearly falls under Fair Use rules. One could argue that all these programs violate a 1998 law which appears to outlaw circumvention of copy protection schemes; but the fact that these programs have been openly, commercially available for at least a year at reputable Internet stores indicates that Hollywood correctly sees this as a way to increase DVD sales.

My point is that, in a free market, Sanyo could openly advertise that the Sanyo MM-9000 gives one the ability to watch commercial movies, recorded TV programs, etc., on one's phone, the only device that most people are willing to carry with them everywhere. In effect, the MM-9000 is a portable DVD player and an iPod video in your pocket! Such advertising would not only greatly boost sales of the MM-9000, it would also create a demand for phones that could play 240x180 (instead of the 176x144 limitation of the 9000).

[ssaifull]

How oh how I would love to believe this!! What is your source ssaifull? Why would telesales have the phone, but the website does not?


Simple, I just called telesales, got a knowledgeable rep who was willing to help. She gave me that exact number and the order date. She had no reason to lie, and I have no reason to lie to you either.

As for the website not having the phone, I have no idea. It strikes me as odd as well.

[laursifer]

As for the website not having the phone, I have no idea. It strikes me as odd as well.


Not so hard to believe. Same was the case with the A900 for a while, and plenty of other phones in the past.

[james2K]

Just called, they have 145 left so if you want one get it soon!!

[Printing]

I just sent this message to Sprint. I will post the reply if and when I get one.


Question:As you can see, I am using a very old phone and need to
upgrade. I like the Sanyo mm9000, but I have heard that it is
officially EOL as of 12-31-05. I really don't want to buy a
discontinued phone, since it would be very difficult to
replace if defective or damaged. I am also reluctant to get
this model if a newer model with more features is right
around the corner.
So my main questions are:

1. Is the
Sanyo MM900 stil available from Sprint, and if so what would
my cost be?

2. When will a Sanyo phone be released to
replace the MM9000 with similar or more features? (Please
don't mention the MM7500, it's not even close.

Thank you
for your attention to this issue,

[laursifer]

(Please
don't mention the MM7500, it's not even close.


:lmao: Anyone wanna bet they're gonna mention the 7500? Those ecare reps try to read Johnny 5 style (read: Short Circuit, the movie).

[SmplyD]

Good e-mail Printing... keep us posted.

Laursifer, nice pic... how long have you been sitting on that one?

JOHNNY FIVE, IS ALIIIIIIVE!!!!

[Hilliker]

I don't think it is. I hope not because I want to change my phone to the 9000

[hookedonitunes]

Well I called Sanyo like someone else did on this thread, and talked to a lady named Diane. She was very nice and said that Sprint has decided not to order any more 9000's and that Sanyo would be happy to make more if only Sprint would place a bulk order. So, I guess time's running out for those who want one. She said she called Sprint last week because of all the calls she's gotten about the 9000 and that they had about 150 left in stock and that she's heard that some Radio Shacks still have some. All information we've already heard...

[Printing]

I sent this message to Sprint on Thursday, Jan., 12.

Question:As you can see, I am using a very old phone and need to
upgrade. I like the Sanyo mm9000, but I have heard that it is
officially EOL as of 12-31-05. I really don't want to buy a
discontinued phone, since it would be very difficult to
replace if defective or damaged. I am also reluctant to get
this model if a newer model with more features is right
around the corner.
So my main questions are:

1. Is the
Sanyo MM900 stil available from Sprint, and if so what would
my cost be?

2. When will a Sanyo phone be released to
replace the MM9000 with similar or more features? (Please
don't mention the MM7500, it's not even close.

Thank you
for your attention to this issue,

Here is the reply:


Thank you for emailing us.

We do offer Sanyo 9000. The cost of this device is $379.99. Also, as
of now the EOL for the Sanyo 9000 is January 18, 2006. Also, Sprint
offers wide range of handsets which are not only best in technology but
also have exceptional features including the appearance. Sprint
continuously strives to provide new products and services to our valued
customers. Yes, we will be launching new handsets which will have the
features of MM9000 very soon. You are requested to be updated with our
Web site for the availability of new handsets. Please click on the
hyperlink given below to access the Phones and Accessories section of
the Web site:

http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/PhonesAccessories/Phones.jsp

Have a great day.

Henry S.
E-Care
Sprint together with Nextel
"Where our customers come first!"

Refer someone to Sprint and get $25. Dial #REF or visit a store for
details.

[harris]

Wirelessly posted (MM7400: Mozilla/4.0 (MobilePhone MM-7400/US/1.0) NetFront/3.1 MMP/2.0)

Finally we have a straight answer about the EOL for the Sanyo MM9000.

[davidneary01]

FINALLY!!!someone who actually took the time to write sprint...what a novel idea...i always thought speculation was the best route to the truth...

[ssaifull]

eCare spittin out the date of January 18th is the same as any other rep in the past checking on the EOL date in the system--it isn't all that reliable since this date seems to change almost weekly.

Yes, we will be launching new handsets which will have the
features of MM9000 very soon.

That is not a very solid statement. And from that statement alone, we cannot infer that a high-end Sanyo handset is on it's way. I really wish it was though.

[hookedonitunes]

I am pleased that "Henry S." is so knowedgable and helpful.
Since this is the first official word from direct from Sprint about the 9000 and it's successor, I am also going to post this in a new thread so it doesn't get lost in this multi-page one.

You have to be careful of the wording, though. They said they will offer products with the same features, but they didn't say that there will be a successor to the 9000, nor that all of the features will be available in one phone. There very well could be a successor to the 9000, but I'm a little leery of Henry's peculiar wording.

[ssaifull]

You have to be careful of the wording, though. They said they will offer products with the same features, but they didn't say that there will be a successor to the 9000, nor that all of the features will be available in one phone. There very well could be a successor to the 9000, but I'm a little leery of Henry's peculiar wording.

Isn't that the same thing I said?

Anyways, I went to the Sprint Store today to check out the MM-7500 and asked the Assistant store manager who I know and she said that the 9000 is indeed discontinued and after they run out of their current stock they cannot order anymore.

[Sirlawrence]

This is not necessarily true as Garmin works fine on the 9000, so Sprint might not care all that much about how long it takes TeleNav to update the software...at least people that want GPS can get it via Garmin in the content manager...Also, TeleNav is not supported on any PV phones currently, despite working on some of the older Samsung models, so I don't think the fact that TeleNav is currently missing in action is any kind of indicator about the lifespan of the 9000...just my $0.02...
Please tell me what is "TeleNav" and does the Sanyo now have it?? What is going to be the replacement for the MM9000 as I have recently been told that this phone is
discontinued and also listed as such on "phonearena".

[C1787GJ]

I have some 9000s available in my Radioshack Store in Southeastern MA. just got the 920 in too. getting some more 900s in as well. I still like the 9000 the best though however I miss the Sanyo "Click" noise like the older phones used to have. The 8300 was the first model without the click noise :(

[Dubspoon]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (MobilePhone RL-4920/US/1.0) NetFront/3.1 MMP/2.0)

so the 5700 is a pipedream

[lgmayka]

Please tell me what is "TeleNav" and does the Sanyo now have it??
TeleNav is another GPS application. It competes with Garmin Mobile, Garmin Mobile Lite, and the Maps and Directory components of On Demand. As far as I know, TeleNav will not work properly on any of the EV-DO phones.

[Dubspoon]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (MobilePhone RL-4920/US/1.0) NetFront/3.1 MMP/2.0)

Please tell me what is "TeleNav" and does the Sanyo now have it??
TeleNav is another GPS application. It competes with Garmin Mobile, Garmin Mobile Lite, and the Maps and Directory components of On Demand. As far as I know, TeleNav will not work properly on any of the EV-DO phones.

so tiger lbs is fake

[Dubspoon]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (MobilePhone RL-4920/US/1.0) NetFront/3.1 MMP/2.0)

Please tell me what is "TeleNav" and does the Sanyo now have it??
TeleNav is another GPS application. It competes with Garmin Mobile, Garmin Mobile Lite, and the Maps and Directory components of On Demand. As far as I know, TeleNav will not work properly on any of the EV-DO phones.

so thier lbs is fake

[lgmayka]

so thier lbs is fake
No, TeleNav is a genuine GPS application. It runs on some of the Sanyo phones, like the 5600, 7400, and 8300. But apparently, some element of the GPS Application Programming Interface is different on Sprint's EV-DO phones, because all reports indicate that TeleNav will not run on either the 9000 or the Samsung A900, A920, or A940.

Garmin and On Demand issued updates to become compatible with the EV-DO phones. TeleNav did not.

[james2K]

I got a version of telenav that I got from a...*ahem*...another site that works fine on my 9000.

[lgmayka]

I got a version of telenav that I got from a...*ahem*...another site that works fine on my 9000.
I just tried TeleNav again on my 9000, and somehow it now appears to work correctly! I don't know what has changed, unless I perhaps got a firmware update for the 9000 in the meantime?

[james2K]

Couldn't tell ya lg...worked the 1st time for me

[SmplyD]

I got a version of telenav that I got from a...*ahem*...another site that works fine on my 9000.TeeHee :eyebrows:

Was trying to find a wink smiley, but doesn't appear there is one.

[james2K]

TeeHee :eyebrows:

Was trying to find a wink smiley, but doesn't appear there is one.


I think this qualifies as a wink ;)

I really hope sprint's lack of support for telenav on the 9000 is not an indication of things to come.

[toddc79]

where do we find this telenav program ? i'd like to try it some day maybe without shelling out money for something that might not work....

[Ricky]

I heard that the program works, but does not get a gps fix. Are you guys able to navigate with it on the 9000?

[james2K]

yep it works pretty good on the 9000, although the vers. i'm using is for the 5600 I think

[lgmayka]

I heard that the program works, but does not get a gps fix. Are you guys able to navigate with it on the 9000?
It works, but apparently requires a stronger GPS signal than Garmin Mobile does. Garmin Mobile, in turn, requires a stronger GPS signal than On Demand does.

So for me:

- On Demand immediately gets a GPS fix, every time.

- Garmin Mobile occasionally fails to get a fix. I then have to cancel the operation, extend the antenna, and click on View Map again.

- TeleNav often fails to get a fix. I have to exit entirely out of the program, extend the antenna, hold the phone up and away from the dashboard, re-enter the program, and try again.


Note that Garmin Mobile is the only one of the three that can display your position on a scrolling map as you drive. For the passenger only, of course. ;)

[a_c_s]

I tried Telenav again myself on the 9000 after reading this post...it worked perfectly on my way to work in a cab in NYC...I don't think the TeleNav software has been updated, and I have not updated my phone's software in 6+ weeks, so perhaps TeleNav made a fix on their end?

In any case, TeleNav does appear to work now on my 9000, although I have not used it enough to comment like others as to how hard it is to get a fix vs Garmin...I've had pretty good success with Garmin on the 9000...

[birdman]

i did get telenav to work 1 time on my a940, i dont think it has ever worked since but i did get it working once. Garmin works like a charm ~

[Sirlawrence]

I sent this message to Sprint on Thursday, Jan., 12.

Question:As you can see, I am using a very old phone and need to
upgrade. I like the Sanyo mm9000, but I have heard that it is
officially EOL as of 12-31-05. I really don't want to buy a
discontinued phone, since it would be very difficult to
replace if defective or damaged. I am also reluctant to get
this model if a newer model with more features is right
around the corner.
So my main questions are:

1. Is the
Sanyo MM900 stil available from Sprint, and if so what would
my cost be?

2. When will a Sanyo phone be released to
replace the MM9000 with similar or more features? (Please
don't mention the MM7500, it's not even close.

Thank you
for your attention to this issue,

Here is the reply:


Thank you for emailing us.

We do offer Sanyo 9000. The cost of this device is $379.99. Also, as
of now the EOL for the Sanyo 9000 is January 18, 2006. Also, Sprint
offers wide range of handsets which are not only best in technology but
also have exceptional features including the appearance. Sprint
continuously strives to provide new products and services to our valued
customers. Yes, we will be launching new handsets which will have the
features of MM9000 very soon. You are requested to be updated with our
Web site for the availability of new handsets. Please click on the
hyperlink given below to access the Phones and Accessories section of
the Web site:

http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/PhonesAccessories/Phones.jsp

Have a great day.

Henry S.
E-Care
Sprint together with Nextel
"Where our customers come first!"

Refer someone to Sprint and get $25. Dial #REF or visit a store for
details.
What email did you use please in order that they may email me when they get a
replacement/upgrade for the MM9000 ( I was getting ready to purchase after much
research as an upgrade to my Sanyo SCP 5500).
Thanks in advance for your reply!

[Printing]

What email did you use please in order that they may email me when they get a
replacement/upgrade for the MM9000 ( I was getting ready to purchase after much
research as an upgrade to my Sanyo SCP 5500).
Thanks in advance for your reply!

I just used the regular contact info on the sprint.com site. I wouldn't get too excited about Sprint informing you about any new Sanyos though. You will probably hear more about it in these forums once some of the Sprint/Nextel employees loosen up a bit.
As for me, I think I am going to go ahead and get a 9000. Even though the next phone will probably be superior, I am starting to believe that it may not be "just around the corner". And when it does come out, it may be just as hard to find as the 9000 was and probably more expensive. You can still find 9000s if you try (ebay, RS, and a few Sprint stores). Good Luck!

[Ricky]

Hopefully, whatever new superior phones come out will replace our 9000's if we need to use lockline. Right now, my LL insurance is just as good as having no insurance.

[Dubspoon]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (MobilePhone RL-4920/US/1.0) NetFront/3.1 MMP/2.0)

The 5.7K was just talk?

[james2K]

the 5700 may soon exist, but we have no solid information on this phone. It was hyped as many to have every phone feature known to man, but it's vaporware until some solid info leaks or if it shows up on the FCC as AEZ-SCP57H. Until then, there is no 5700.

[KAT]

Went to the Sprint Store in Glendale, Ca yesterday to look at a new battery for my 7400, I'm sure I could get a better price for one on the internet somewhere. Went looking at all the phones as usual, and low and behold, the very last phone in the corner of the building was the 9000. I was quite surprised they had one, and it was the 1st time I had one in my hands. I played around with it for a bit, and liked it alot. I asked a worker how many they had in stock, and he said he thought there was just one left, and went in the back to take a look. He came back and said "Sorry, there's none left" I asked him when more would come in, and he had no idea if they would ever get more in. So they have the phone on display, but you can't get the damn thing. You can't get the display model, because they are activated with a account.

He also said it just wasn't selling, that's why their not to concerned about getting more. Apparently, most people just don't care about about, or use all the features it has to offer, and everyone is just going for looks, hence the a900 is the hot seller, and since most people aren't interested in the bells and whistles, they never notice any real bug issues with the Blade since they just want to make calls, not much more, so if the phone just looks cool, I guess that's enough for them.

I've also read posts here that claim one reason for the 9000's quick demise is that Sprint just isn't making enough money on the phone since you can circumvent so much of Sprint's media/data plans that Sprint would rather have you pay for. I don't know how true this is, but if it does hold some merit, you can bet that the 5600/9000 successor won't be as easy to do such things, making the 9000 a good catch, and maybe the last of it's kind in this respect. This is a reason I would try and hunt one down, since it may offer certain 'freedoms' that even it's successor will no longer offer.

But with very little, if any fresh info on the next top Sanyo, it's real hard for me to know what the right thing to do is, since i can't afford to buy phones on a whim, or just cuz I happen to be bored with one.

[Ovaltine224]

yea that makes total sense. the 9000s looks are very bland compared to the rest in the line.

hopefully this will encourage Sanyo to step up their game and come out with something soon

[Printing]

[QUOTE=KAT "Sorry, there's none left" I asked him when more would come in, and he had no idea if they would ever get more in. So they have the phone on display, but you can't get the damn thing. You can't get the display model, because they are activated with a account.


I had a similar bad experience at my Sprint store last night. I had decided to get the 9000 and deal with the PV plan issue if & when it came up. When I asked for the 9000 that I knew they had in their cabinet,( they have never been on display), the phone wasn't in the box. They found it in a drawer with about 20 other phones of various ages and conditions. It had quite a few scratches, but I said I would still take it if they would offer a small discount. The rep said he could not sell me a demo phone but if he could there still would be no discount. I am almost ready to give up on the 9000 and maybe Sprint as well.

[lgmayka]

I am almost ready to give up on the 9000 and maybe Sprint as well.
Do you have a Fry's near you? The one near me has the 9000 for $248 before discount/rebate.

[PhoneJunkie]

[QUOTE=KAT "Sorry, there's none left" I asked him when more would come in, and he had no idea if they would ever get more in. So they have the phone on display, but you can't get the damn thing. You can't get the display model, because they are activated with a account.


I had a similar bad experience at my Sprint store last night. I had decided to get the 9000 and deal with the PV plan issue if & when it came up. When I asked for the 9000 that I knew they had in their cabinet,( they have never been on display), the phone wasn't in the box. They found it in a drawer with about 20 other phones of various ages and conditions. It had quite a few scratches, but I said I would still take it if they would offer a small discount. The rep said he could not sell me a demo phone but if he could there still would be no discount. I am almost ready to give up on the 9000 and maybe Sprint as well.



Like someone posted before, try Radioshack. You can look on their website and see what stores still have them in stock. I have seen Radioshack stores in my area that still have new Sanyo 7400's, 5600's, 8200's as well as the 9000.

[Printing]

Do you have a Fry's near you? The one near me has the 9000 for $248 before discount/rebate.


Thanks, but I just checked Frys' website and the closest one is about 600 miles. The MM9000 isn't that hot! I also checked RS online and there are some stores within about 100 miles that have it. I just wish Sprint wouldn't make life so difficult. I should be able to go into any Sprint store and buy any of the phones in their lineup. If they don't have it that day, they should be able to have it sent from another store within a day.

[KAT]

Do you have a Fry's near you? The one near me has the 9000 for $248 before discount/rebate.
I just called the Fry's in Burbank which is about 15 minutes from me, and "Shane" in the cellphone dept. does have the 9000. When I asked him how many they had in stock, he said "Oh, ALOT!!!" The price he quoted me was $247.00 before rebates. So with my one year rebate, I could pick it up for about $172.00, not bad! But my quandry still continues, do I pick it up now, or wait for the next Sanyo? :scratch:

[SmplyD]

But my quandry still continues, do I pick it up now, or wait for the next Sanyo? :scratch:I say go ahead and buy it now. If you jump on the bandwagon now, you should be able to keep the phone working for you until you're eligible for a new $150 rebate... by that time rev.A would have just been released, and no doubt they will release a cool new phone that will be top of the line for rev.A... you can probably wait until then.

[heliosnine]

Yeah, I would say go for it too. The 9000 is a great, solid, reliable phone, and you'll never go back to regular 1xRTT speeds, once you get used to EVDO. And as SimplyDerek mentions, rev.A is a ways off, considering Sprint has only just gotten rev.0 EVDO off the ground. $172, or even $247 is a great price for the 9000.

[EDGE23]

GET IT!!, i got mine yesterday from fry's and no regrets

[KAT]

Thanks for the input, just a couple of questions, I never got a phone from any place other than a Shack/Sprint. I'm assuming you have to take the phone to a Shack/Sprint Store to get it activated, and is the rebate instant when purchased at Fry's? How does this all work.

[KAT]

Never mind, just talked to my buddy at the local Shack, he filled me in on what I needed to know.

[KAT]

Holy crap, I just thought I'd check out the Sprint coverage map for my area surrounding L.A., and it looks like I don't get EVDO in my town. I'm hoping it's a older map that has yet to be updated, but I'm not sure I wanna make this switch now, what a bummer to upgrade to the 9000, and still have the media, TV, news clips ect freeze, pixilate, load, buffer, ect ect just like my 7400 does now. :frustrate

[james2K]

Try a sprint store close to your area and see if any of the demo phones are getting evdo. You'll know by the white box with the little triangles where the vision arrows used to be. That icon means that PV is available, even if the phone itself is not active.

[KAT]

Try a sprint store close to your area and see if any of the demo phones are getting evdo. You'll know by the white box with the little triangles where the vision arrows used to be. That icon means that PV is available, even if the phone itself is not active.
The closest Sprint Store to me is in Glendale, a town that I know has EVDO, I guess I could see if the a900 at the Shack which is about 2-3 miles from here shows it's working. I live in a mountainous area, that could be a problem. I'm really hoping I can get the service here, I'll know soon enough..... :fingers:

EDIT: The guy at the Shack is gonna call a Sprint rep and tell him my exact location where I live, and hopefully he'll get back to me with the news I wanna hear.

[lgmayka]

what a bummer to upgrade to the 9000, and still have the media, TV, news clips ect freeze, pixilate, load, buffer, ect ect just like my 7400 does now.
My nephew has a 7400, my niece has an 8300, my brother has an A900, and I have a 9000. For the first few weeks, and then again later due to a glitch, I was limited to 1xRTT on the 9000 (i.e., no EVDO). My observation is that, contrary to popular belief, the data transfer speed (1xRTT vs. EVDO) is not the biggest determiner of Sprint TV watchability (frame rate, etc.). Rather, processor speed (and/or code optimization) appears to be the primary factor.

My evidence:

- On the 9000 and A900, Sprint TV over 1xRTT is only slightly worse (lower frame rate, etc.) than over EVDO. It is quite watchable IMHO.

- On the A900, even MobiTV is quite watchable, with a decent frame rate. It is almost unwatchable on the three Sanyo models, regardless of 1xRTT vs. EVDO.

- Sprint TV on the 8300 is much better than on the 7400, though they both use 1xRTT.

[KAT]

Thanks for the interesting, and heartening news! So then since the 9000 has a better/faster processor, the MM stuff still shouldn't be much of an issue, regardless. I'd be glad just to be able to watch media all the way through with no hiccups, I'll worry about the frame rate later! I have noticed though that I have better luck viewing clips, TV ect late, or very late at night, (with the 7400) I chalked it up to be just less people using the service, making the network less 'clogged'. Sometimes it works quite well, but most of the time doesn't. Or can a processor fluctuate in performance at certain times? At least I have the 14 day trial period to check it all out.

[lgmayka]

I'd be glad just to be able to watch media all the way through with no hiccups, I'll worry about the frame rate later! I have noticed though that I have better luck viewing clips, TV ect late, or very late at night, (with the 7400) I chalked it up to be just less people using the service, making the network less 'clogged'. Sometimes it works quite well, but most of the time doesn't. Or can a processor fluctuate in performance at certain times?
No, but a less capable processor (also with less memory, etc.) cannot buffer as efficiently in order to smooth over the momentary fluctuations in data transfer speed.

Have you upgraded your 7400 to the latest firmware (1.030SP, I think)? I don't know if that would help, but it can't hurt.

Just now I put my MM-9000 into 1x Only Mode, and tried out the live channels and video clips. They are all quite watchable, and their frame rate and sound quality is only slightly lower than with EVDO. However, now that you mention the difference that time of day makes...

I do now remember that when I was forced into 1x Only Mode for an entire week, I noticed that at a restaurant near a shopping mall, during the lunch hour, I was getting excessive stopping and buffering of video. As you can guess, for video clips this is merely an annoyance, but for live video it's almost intolerable, because you lose portions of the broadcast while the phone is buffering.

So I must admit that in some circumstances, the extra available bandwidth of EVDO does make a considerable difference.

[KAT]

Well, I just called Sprint Tech to get the info on EVDO coverage in my immediate area, and NO, I DO NOT get coverage here....... of course, if I go just 2-3 miles to my west or south, it pops in. :frustrate Maybe I can get my girlfreind to sell the house, and move down the street....... not the best news, but as long as I know the 9000 will perform better in this regard than the 7400, I guess it's still worth considering, thanks for the much needed input. And who knows, maybe they will expand coverage here in the near future... :fingers:

[KAT]

Just called Fry's to make sure 9000 is still there, but the guy told me that the rebate is only good for new sprint customers, is this true? I can't use 1 year rebate there? and if this is true, can I still use it at Sprint Store, or Radio Shack for another phone down the line?

[lgmayka]

Just called Fry's to make sure 9000 is still there, but the guy told me that the rebate is only good for new sprint customers, is this true? I can't use 1 year rebate there? and if this is true, can I still use it at Sprint Store, or Radio Shack for another phone down the line?
He probably meant that Fry's can only do instant discounts for new lines of service. For upgrades, you have to mail in the rebate form. Fry's should have the rebate form, but if not, a Sprint store should have a copy.

[mfayfer]

I believe you can order it directly from Sprint. That's how I got mine.

[Dubspoon]

I just got my 9K yesterday, from Fry's... not really impressed

[Ovaltine224]

wut dont u like about it?

[shespnz]

The reason why Sprint decided to discontinue is b/c the phone passes over the authentication that sees it being using as a phone as modem. All the other power vision devices will go through the auth and will receive an error message if they are being used as a phone as a modem.

[lgmayka]

I just got my 9K yesterday, from Fry's... not really impressed
Will you be more impressed if you buy a larger-capacity miniSD card and load it with movies converted from commercial DVDs?

Or will you be impressed by one of the GPS programs that run on it?

Or Sprint TV Live?

[Dubspoon]

I lied, the phone gets better and better every day, I just wish I'd have had enough money to buy flat out, thn i could've called in to activate, and would've been made aware of the PV issue and loosing my unlimited text

[JDivine609]

I was thinking of getting the Sanyo MM9000, but was told that it was discontinued by two different Sprint stores. I was told that is because the sales are not that great.

[EDGE23]

I was thinking of getting the Sanyo MM9000, but was told that it was discontinued by two different Sprint stores. I was told that is because the sales are not that great.
yeah,, no ones knows for sure, the phone is still around, lets just leave it at that. you could get one from fry's brand spanking new, or buy one off ebay :)

[mfayfer]

I find the mm9000 to be the best phone I've ever had, since I've been with Sprint (over 5 years). For me, simply, the fact that I can use the EVDO network is tremendous, but, with all the other features, it is a slam dunk. As we all know, Sanyo is the best for signal reception. Well, I live in a rather remote area where Verizon does not work and T-Mobile?...uh...I don't think so. With Sprint, specifically with Sanyo phones, I can get up to 90% signal strength. I've had several Sanyo phones, but, the 9000 is, by far, the richest in features. I will, however, probably upgrade to whatever Sanyo follows with.

[bobby.b]

Not on the website at all...I say its discontinued..

[gothicx00]

It is officially discontinued, acording to every sprint rep i've spoke to and according to phonescoop... it's a shame too... i can't believe sprint dc'd it with out a comprable replacement.... ::shoos away the a920 crowd::

[toddc79]

The reason why Sprint decided to discontinue is b/c the phone passes over the authentication that sees it being using as a phone as modem. All the other power vision devices will go through the auth and will receive an error message if they are being used as a phone as a modem.
you sound as if that's a bad thing.... maybe for sprint... but not for us haha.... i never abused tethering, i always used it as a last resort "ie: my connection at home is down, i need to check email or do a little web browsing...or im on the road and want to check my mail...." a meg here a meg there none of this 10 gigs in a day bs..... so i guess i dont count, but right now i've got an 8300 which does me no good for PAM period, will have a 9k within the next couple days.....

[rdcrds]

someone help a newbie at useing it as a modem help me? how do you tether with it? what do i need to do that? not that i want to abuse it since i have cable internet but always a good backup.

[toddc79]

someone help a newbie at useing it as a modem help me? how do you tether with it? what do i need to do that? not that i want to abuse it since i have cable internet but always a good backup.
a phone cable and a computer with a usb port :-P does the 9k come with a cable ? i didn't get mine yet.

[james2K]

someone help a newbie at useing it as a modem help me? how do you tether with it? what do i need to do that? not that i want to abuse it since i have cable internet but always a good backup.

See if this helps:

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80720&highlight=sanyo+9000+modem+connection

[DJ_MYKE]

IS THIS PHONE DIS-CONTINUED?.......NO, IT IS NOT. Infact, if you go to the "GENERAL DISCUSSION " thread, I have just posted up some very "GOOD NEWS" regarding this phone. :headbang2 I also believe that this phone is in a great deal of high demand because of the fact that their have been so many "PRO'S" and far less "CONS" about this phone but how ever if you have time, go to the "GENERAL DISCUSSION" area of my thread--Sanyo MM-9000 "GOOD NEWS" & check it out. :wavey: :Party:

[arogers]

I have a been told by a sprint representative that the MM9000 has been discontinued,
and at least here in Boston can't find it anywhere; the ESPN phone is not in the Sprint stores (won't be in the Sprint Stores) but is available at Best Buy. My 9000 that I just bought in December had a problem and I received a 7500 as a replacement.

[gothicx00]

I will repeat for clarification. This phone is discontinued All the facts support it, and everyone from sprint reps to RS sales reps will tell you so. Wireless companies don't discontinue a phone and then magically put it back out for sale. At the very least they'd give it a face lift and change the model number. That way they save face and don't look stupid. Simply put guys, if you don't have one by now, and your local Sprint Store or Radio Shack doesn't have one, chances are you aren't going to get one.

[Jamespb]

Does anyone have inside information as to what new phones will be coming out

[SmplyD]

I will repeat for clarification. This phone is discontinued All the facts support it, and everyone from sprint reps to RS sales reps will tell you so. Wireless companies don't discontinue a phone and then magically put it back out for sale. At the very least they'd give it a face lift and change the model number. That way they save face and don't look stupid. Simply put guys, if you don't have one by now, and your local Sprint Store or Radio Shack doesn't have one, chances are you aren't going to get one.
Not neccessarily true. While you will obviously still be able to buy used 9000s off eBay and the like, if you look hard enough you should be able to find one new from a third party vendor. Fry's by my house still has about 6 on the shelf, and there have been reports that other locations still have many available. If you really want this phone, you should be able to get it, just not from any of the authorized retailers (i.e. Sprint and Radio Shack).

[Ovaltine224]

Not neccessarily true. While you will obviously still be able to buy used 9000s off eBay and the like, if you look hard enough you should be able to find one new from a third party vendor. Fry's by my house still has about 6 on the shelf, and there have been reports that other locations still have many available. If you really want this phone, you should be able to get it, just not from any of the authorized retailers (i.e. Sprint and Radio Shack).

ya but they could be just sellin off what they have left. all my sprint stores have em. so i believe that it is discontinued, off the rotation, but still in market

[SmplyD]

I know that the 9000 is discontinued, meaning that nobody is going to be receiving any new shipments of the phone. Once the current stock is sold off, you will not be able to find the phone new.

[JDivine609]

I was just at a Sprint store last night and I was told the Sanyo mm9000 was not discontinued. They're improving on a couple of bugs, mainly the camera. Compared to the mm7500, the mm9000's camera is kind of bad.
I would've gotten the 7500 if it weren't for the small screen.

[horsplagrl]

I was on the phone with a rep from spint last weekend about getting a new phone, dude was really cool, not one of those dorks who has a bag phone still, he said that it was not available to be ordered through sprint but that some places still had them. He said to call around or buy one off ebay. He said of all the phones as of late phone people love the most is the 9000, he said second was the 7500. He told me considering my wants and needs to go with the 9000 but If I couldnt find one the 7500 would be cool too, I went with the 9000, screen size.

[dark_talon]

The following phones are no longer offered in Telesales: Sanyo 9000 EVDO, Samsung A880, i730, i315, Samsung A820, i305, A940 EVDO, LG 325, i205, V505 and the IM240.
right from my work site, but lots of thoses are sit out there on the web or at stores.

[tman]

Just got off the phone with Sprint verifying my retention plan (they were very helpful and friendly, btw). I mentioned I was getting the 9000 and the rep said how great a phone it was and that they were shocked when it got discontinued (and how lucky I was to find one) - he said the reason was that there was a bug where on some phones minutes were not registering so people were getting free extra minutes. Maybe I'll hit the jackpot! (actually he said they always found out eventually but that it could take a few months).

[horsplagrl]

I have a been told by a sprint representative that the MM9000 has been discontinued,
and at least here in Boston can't find it anywhere; the ESPN phone is not in the Sprint stores (won't be in the Sprint Stores) but is available at Best Buy. My 9000 that I just bought in December had a problem and I received a 7500 as a replacement.

THAT would tick me off!!

[toddc79]

Just got off the phone with Sprint verifying my retention plan (they were very helpful and friendly, btw). I mentioned I was getting the 9000 and the rep said how great a phone it was and that they were shocked when it got discontinued (and how lucky I was to find one) - he said the reason was that there was a bug where on some phones minutes were not registering so people were getting free extra minutes. Maybe I'll hit the jackpot! (actually he said they always found out eventually but that it could take a few months).
i don't believe the minutes not being registered bug.... but i've made a few long calls on the sprint network that have yet to show up almost over a week ago..... which is weird usually takes an hour at the most before they're visable on my usage.

[KAT]

THAT would tick me off!!
That would tick me off to, but really, what else is there for a suitable replacement currently? There's only two phones that barely come close to the 9000's features, which is the 7500, or the Samsung 920.

[tman]

i don't believe the minutes not being registered bug.... but i've made a few long calls on the sprint network that have yet to show up almost over a week ago..... which is weird usually takes an hour at the most before they're visable on my usage.

maybe that is related to what he was talking about (no idea, of course). for instance, if you crossed into your next billing cycle since you made those calls, they would not show up on that month's bill. (Of course, they still wouldn't be free though. I think the rep said it may take 'a month or two'. I didn't get into specifics with him though. oh well - who knows?).

It helped me believe what he was saying that I didn't bring it up first - we were talking about the fact that it was discontinued and he said "do you know why it was discontinued?", etc.

guess we may never know if there was any specific reason. it does seem odd since they didn't have a replacement ready - maybe Sprint was counting on the Sam A920 to replace it in the stable feature-wise (obviously, many people would prefer to have the 9000 though). Since I'm not in the industry I have no idea how long the contract was w/Sanyo to sell the 9000 or even if that's how it gets done, though.

[james2K]

ugh, not this thread again... :indiff:

[lgmayka]

I mentioned I was getting the 9000 and the rep said how great a phone it was and that they were shocked when it got discontinued (and how lucky I was to find one) - he said the reason was that there was a bug where on some phones minutes were not registering so people were getting free extra minutes.
In his own garbled way, the rep was almost certainly referring to the fact that the Sanyo 9000 does not have Modem NAI capability. Modem NAI is the mechanism by which Sprint is able to prevent a customer from surreptitiously using his EVDO phone as a high-speed modem (e.g., for a laptop) without subscribing to a special Phone As Modem plan.

Ironically, Modem NAI can be turned off on some/all of the Samsung EVDO phones, but Sprint apparently assumes that most customers don't know how to do this. (And Sprint may close this loophole on the Samsung phones with the next firmware update.) In contrast, adding this capability to the Sanyo 9000 would require substantial firmware development--which Sprint has historically considered infeasible.

Please, Sprint employees, don't bother trying to deny this. Multiple Sprint employees over the last several months have hinted at the lack of Modem NAI as the reason for the 9000's shocking discontinuation only a couple months after its introduction--though such employees often garbled the story a little as the quoted employee above did, perhaps to avoid the accusation of releasing proprietary information.

[Darkdashing]

In his own garbled way, the rep was almost certainly referring to the fact that the Sanyo 9000 does not have Modem NAI capability. Modem NAI is the mechanism by which Sprint is able to prevent a customer from surreptitiously using his EVDO phone as a high-speed modem (e.g., for a laptop) without subscribing to a special Phone As Modem plan.

Ironically, Modem NAI can be turned off on some/all of the Samsung EVDO phones, but Sprint apparently assumes that most customers don't know how to do this. (And Sprint may close this loophole on the Samsung phones with the next firmware update.) In contrast, adding this capability to the Sanyo 9000 would require substantial firmware development--which Sprint has historically considered infeasible.

Please, Sprint employees, don't bother trying to deny this. Multiple Sprint employees over the last several months have hinted at the lack of Modem NAI as the reason for the 9000's shocking discontinuation only a couple months after its introduction--though such employees often garbled the story a little as the quoted employee above did, perhaps to avoid the accusation of releasing proprietary information.

interesting, this may explain the utter lack of supply in these phones.

[johnny hotsauce]

interesting, this may explain the utter lack of supply in these phones.

Exactly :headbang2

[abluesguy1990]

Originally Posted by abluesguy1990
I have 2 for sale on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...AMESE%3AIT&rd=1