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lgmayka
11-28-2005, 07:25 PM
Although these forums have seen much discussion about Garmin Mobile and TeleNav, both of which cost $10/mo, I have seen little-to-nothing about what claims to be a wonderful inexpensive alternative for EV-DO phones: On Demand's Maps capability.

As you all know, EV-DO phones come with On Demand. Five of its capabilities come free with the phone (or rather, with Vision on the phone): News, Sports, Weather, Money, and Movies. The other four capabilities require subscription: Directory, Maps, TV Guide, and Dictionary. On the Web site of Handmark (programmer of On Demand), the only subscription price listed is for the entire program with all capabilities, for $7/mo. But on our EV-DO phones, each of the four missing capabilities can be purchased separately. Amazingly, the Maps capability currently costs only $1.50/mo. This would be a truly wonderful price if Maps could actually do what it claims to.

Maps claims to be able to map your Current Location, automatically, without any further input from the user. Knowing that all MIDP2.0 phones have both GPS capability and a J2ME programming interface for accessing GPS location, any reasonable person would assume that On Demand's Maps would therefore show you your current location accurately via GPS. Right?

Wrong. While at home, Maps consistently comes up with a location several miles from my house--the same location, no randomness. I can only assume that Maps is merely showing me the location of my cell site. Interesting, but almost totally useless.

By the way, the map itself is atrociously designed. Neighborhoods are an extremely light pastel blue. All streets, from the smallest to the largest (except actual expressways), are white, making them indistinguishable from each other and almost indistinguishable from neighborhoods.

In short, it would be a wonderful application, if it weren't so worthless.

Does anyone have any better experience with this? Does it actually find your location correctly? Note that Garmin Mobile does find me correctly on my Sanyo MM-9000, though TeleNav does not.

a_c_s
11-28-2005, 10:11 PM
TeleNav has not been updated to work with any of the new phones...that's why it won't give you a fix...Garmin didn't work on the 9000 until the update came out...

lgmayka
11-30-2005, 05:52 AM
The horror story gets worse. I stupidly downloaded a supposed later, fixed version of On Demand (1.2 instead of 1.0) from a well-known unofficial Web site. This supposed 1.2 version totally disables the application's locating capability! With the real 1.0 version, On Demand was at least able to locate me within a few miles (probably my nearest cell site); with this bogus 1.2 version, it merely displays Sprint's headquarters in Overland Park, Kansas.

Why did Sprint release an unfinished application like On Demand, and then fail even to provide a legitimate update?

imtravis
11-30-2005, 07:46 AM
Unfortunately the phrase "from a well-known unofficial Web site" basically states that Sprint hasn't released it yet (otherwise, it'd be on the Sprint website). Just a thought. Usually betas, are just that, betas. You may want to see if there's a way you could downgrade and wait for Sprint to actually release it via their website.

lgmayka
11-30-2005, 08:55 AM
You may want to see if there's a way you could downgrade and wait for Sprint to actually release it via their website.
Yes, thank you, I did. Ordinarily, this app (even the bogus 1.2 version) is "content locked" against deletion. But I modified the .jad file to turn off the Content Lock, re-downloaded it on top of itself, and deleted it (the bogus 1.2 version). Once that version was deleted, the original version (apparently in flashable ROM) resurrected itself.

So I am back to an app that would be an amazing bargain at $1.49/mo, if only it could get my location within 2 city blocks instead of within 2 miles.

lgmayka
12-04-2005, 01:22 AM
The source who posted version 1.2 has now posted version 1.1, and amazingly, it now finds my exact location correctly! The Map capability has a 30-day trial, after which it will be $1.49/mo. But that's a lot cheaper than the $9.99/mo that Garmin Mobile and TeleNav require.

lgmayka
12-07-2005, 10:16 PM
Although GPS location now works well with On Demand v1.1 on the Sanyo MM-9000, the Map capability, by itself, only allows Current Location or an address. So although I already have Google Local Mobile, I decided to try the Directory capability of On Demand. Sure enough, Directory integrates beautifully with Map. I can use Directory to look up a business, person, address, or phone number--either near the Current Location or near some other zipcode or city and state. When Directory presents the result(s), I can choose Dial (the phone number), Map (the address), or Route (to or from the residence or business).

Unfortunately, Directory and Map still do not provide real-time location tracking, either on a map or on a route.

Nevertheless, I will probably subscribe to Directory (for another $1.49/mo) after my 30-day trial expires.

 
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