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bluecoyote
10-16-2005, 11:31 AM
The LG VX9800 is the first phone in a LONG time to prove that LG can build world-class handsets. It's almost hard to believe this is the same company that builds such mediocre phones as the PM-225, PM-325, and such garbage as, well, every Cingular LG ever made.

BC Got his hands on this little number, expecting that, in true LG fashion, the phone would let him down.

Well, the phone did let me down, but, for the first time EVER, none of it was LG's doing. In fact, LG did everything right except for their choice of carrier- putting this phone on Verizon is a waste of technology.

1) The form factor is great - yes, it's chunky, yes, it's big, but it's more pocketable than a Treo or Blackberry. They keypad is marvelous, and the hinge can tilt 180 degrees, like the Nokia 9500!

2) The Sound quality and reception are great - In true LG CDMA fashion.

3) The battery life is good - Rare for an LG CDMA phone- 5+ hours of talk time is pretty damn good.

4) The Screens are both bright and extra-legible - the interior display is gorgeous- surfing the web on it was a pleasure.

5) Great camera - much improved over the MM535 and VX8100.

6) It uses MiniSD - YES.

7) The phone is functional open as well as closed - A big problem with the F9100 (and most LG's) is solved here- you can browse the web, send text messages, etc. with the phone open or closed. AWESOME.



So ok, this sounds like the perfect phone, and had it been released on Sprint, it probably would've been. Unfortunately...

1) That d@mn Verizon UI is here- just as ugly and inefficient as ever. If I'm techno-literate enough to know to buy a high-end phone, why does it have to act like I'm stupid? Why, to view my pictures, to I have to go to "VIEW PIX" ? Huh? Furthermore, on a screen this size, a cramming 12 items under every menu list is ridiculous. 5 icons isn't enough, morons. If Sprint ever pulls this crap I'm leaving them.

2) Awhile back I claimed that VCast would kill Sprint multimedia. YEAH RIGHT! VCast is what you get when you put Microsoft in charge of your multimedia. Unlike with Sprint, you can't view your own videos. You can't view your own streaming videos. You can't even listen to your own streaming audio. All you can do is listen to your own mp3's on the MiniSD Card.

That's downright unacceptable, but that's Microsoft and Verizon for you. Needless to say, V-Cast is downright terrible- the amount of content seems to be ever-dwindling. When you think we get Live TV at about 80% quality for 60% of the price...

3) Verizon crippled Bluetooth, or LG isn't smart enough to implement it. One of the two.

4) The web browser is crippled- Verizon, Like Virgin mobile, has taken a Walled Garden approach to web browsing. While you can get around it more or less, a LOT of sites are banned. Again, if Sprint ever pulls this crap I'm dropping them, but Sprint, unlike Verizon, seems to have some sort of respect for their customers.

5) No J2ME - this is nothing new, but boy does it stink! BREW (Get it now) is no substitute for J2ME, as it locks your phone's content down tighter than a gnat's behind. So what does no J2ME mean?

A) No Reqwireless Webviewer / PocketWeb on your phone.
B) No J2ME Email client on your phone (no email clients are included) , which means there's no way to view attachments.
C) To get an email client, you must pay $20.00 a month for Verizon's email application.


Aren't you glad you have Sprint?

FloorMatt
10-16-2005, 11:50 AM
I'm glad I have Sprint. :clap: I can't wait to have my Sprint MM phone.....with EV-DO and fully-profiled Bluetooth. I will go up to this one VZW rep I have tortured before......and laugh in his face. And if he DARES to say "It's the network", I'll bust him good! :fight1:

danny.boi
10-17-2005, 01:28 AM
1) That d@mn Verizon UI is here- just as ugly and inefficient as ever. If I'm techno-literate enough to know to buy a high-end phone, why does it have to act like I'm stupid? Why, to view my pictures, to I have to go to "VIEW PIX" ? Huh? Furthermore, on a screen this size, a cramming 12 items under every menu list is ridiculous. 5 icons isn't enough, morons. If Sprint ever pulls this crap I'm leaving them.

2) Awhile back I claimed that VCast would kill Sprint multimedia. YEAH RIGHT! VCast is what you get when you put Microsoft in charge of your multimedia. Unlike with Sprint, you can't view your own videos. You can't view your own streaming videos. You can't even listen to your own streaming audio. All you can do is listen to your own mp3's on the MiniSD Card.

That's downright unacceptable, but that's Microsoft and Verizon for you. Needless to say, V-Cast is downright terrible- the amount of content seems to be ever-dwindling. When you think we get Live TV at about 80% quality for 60% of the price...

3) Verizon crippled Bluetooth, or LG isn't smart enough to implement it. One of the two.

4) The web browser is crippled- Verizon, Like Virgin mobile, has taken a Walled Garden approach to web browsing. While you can get around it more or less, a LOT of sites are banned. Again, if Sprint ever pulls this crap I'm dropping them, but Sprint, unlike Verizon, seems to have some sort of respect for their customers.

5) No J2ME - this is nothing new, but boy does it stink! BREW (Get it now) is no substitute for J2ME, as it locks your phone's content down tighter than a gnat's behind. So what does no J2ME mean?

A) No Reqwireless Webviewer / PocketWeb on your phone.
B) No J2ME Email client on your phone (no email clients are included) , which means there's no way to view attachments.
C) To get an email client, you must pay $20.00 a month for Verizon's email application.


Aren't you glad you have Sprint?


1,2, and 5 to be fair are opinions, I'll give you that.

3 is true, but what did you really expect?

4 is disappointing I can see, but the phone was never dubbed as a HTML handset nor the replacement to the Sidekick. BTW, Virgin Mobile will be bringing down their walled garden approach to their browser.

Nevertheless, I can't see all the would be Verizon Wireless customers running to Sprint Nextel over this. Check out Q3 numbers and you'll know what I'm talking about. :)

bluecoyote
10-20-2005, 04:39 PM
If all you do is make calls, I can't imagine a consumer knowing the difference. As someone who uses 3g features, Verizon is absolutely unacceptable. Verizon dumbing down their phones that cost $50.00 is one thing, but this is a high-end phone.

It's not an html handset, but at least don't cripple an already weak browser by limiting where it can go. Verizon's "Go to URL" has certain sites locked out. Even a web browser like the one on the MM535 would be acceptable (the MM535's a real trooper in this department, actually) , but the combination of a crippled browser and email and no J2ME to alleviate this suffering is unacceptable.

Ovaltine224
10-20-2005, 05:10 PM
my friend just got this phone yesterday and showed me today. its SICK! too bad verizons system and UI suck. but otherwise, one of the sickest phones ive seen so far

iHATEt-mo4LIFE
12-27-2005, 11:35 PM
Aren't you glad you have Sprint?


After reading this I am very glad I went with Sprint instead of Verizon.

HT2791
12-28-2005, 08:31 AM
mmh im glad

dad an i are in sprint, moms in verizon :deal:
she's got couple months left on her contract, then maybe if some new phones come to sprint, i can give her my A940 :lol:

CDMAisGOD
12-29-2005, 04:43 AM
The LG VX9800 is the first phone in a LONG time to prove that LG can build world-class handsets. It's almost hard to believe this is the same company that builds such mediocre phones as the PM-225, PM-325, and such garbage as, well, every Cingular LG ever made.

Aren't you glad you have Sprint?

That phone is really nice. Do you think Sprint will ever get it? Then the LG VX9800 will be used to it's fullest.

And yes, I have always been glad to be with Sprint.

VerizonWbaby
01-07-2006, 12:02 AM
Hi Bluecoyote

I played with this phone in the Verizon store and i bought it because it is better then my RAZR. but you are so right! the Brew and lack of Java is horrible. it is a great phone but i am trying my hardest to find Brew content to transfer onto my VX9800.

misterSelf
01-08-2006, 07:41 AM
this sounds like the perfect phone, and had it been released on Sprint, it probably would've been.
...if you believe that, you are truly myopia personified. Perfect phone? Are you kidding me? It doesn't matter who releases it, and what they disable or enable, a phone is never perfect, just perfect for those you like it. When Cingular originally released the RAZR, and had it exclusively, they disabled the video recording feature; when T-Mobile released it, they enable it. Neither decision makes the phone any more or less perfect for those who want it, because people want different things in a phone and make purchasing decision(s) based on what they want in a phone.

 
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