Why does Motorola hate Sprint?

[sprintpcsuser89]

We were talking about phone designs the other day...

Why exactly does Motorola not make phones for Sprint?
Alltel is on CDMA and they have several Motos (V710, V265, V262). They also have the Blackberry and several Kyoceras.

Did Sprint and Moto have a falling out or something?

[Matt]

Yeah! Moto slept with Sprints girlfriend. :hee:

[cnynctry]

Maybe Sprint doesn't like Moto for some reason.

[contendurr]

I think it might be becuase motorola makes a lot of phone that r sim card enabled and since sprint doesn't use sim card it's pain 4 motorola 2 make a lot of phone that r sprint enabled

[hotnspicychic03]

Alltel and verizon are not sim card enabled either... And the moto e815 is the big ev-do v cast phone out now... Shouldn't be too much effort 2 make a sprint phone versus verizon. The v60v was the most recent 1 we got and that was somewhat entry level.

[Dan]

It seems when SPCS 1st came on the market, they had some moto's that were over priced. If they cant move enough units of a certain phone model, then the cost per unit will go up.

If Moto and Sprint wanted a working partnership, they would have 3-4 moto models available at anything from a "free w/ rebate" to a high end phone.

[mtvsux]

I could have sworn i saw a motorola available on the sprint site recently. My brother called me and told me he wanted the motorola on the sprint site but they did not have it in stores. i checked online and there it was. only now, i don't see it. but it *was* there. i swear. you guys prolly know what i'm talking about.

[Carterism]

I could have sworn i saw a motorola available on the sprint site recently. My brother called me and told me he wanted the motorola on the sprint site but they did not have it in stores. i checked online and there it was. only now, i don't see it. but it *was* there. i swear. you guys prolly know what i'm talking about.

Yeah, there was one for sprint. It's a moto v60v. I think they took it off the site and you can't find em' in stores either so if you want one, ebay is your place. Be cautious always on ebay though.

[Matt]

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I could have sworn i saw a motorola available on the sprint site recently. My brother called me and told me he wanted the motorola on the sprint site but they did not have it in stores. i checked online and there it was. only now, i don't see it. but it *was* there. i swear. you guys prolly know what i'm talking about.

v60v. Voice only Motorola. It was sold not long ago.

[tuolumne]

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maybe because sprint is happy with manufactures that actually are above the industry average in terms of overall customer satisfaction...

[Matt]

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maybe because sprint is happy with manufactures that actually are above the industry average in terms of overall customer satisfaction...

That was one survey. Here we go again.

[mtvsux]

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v60v. Voice only Motorola. It was sold not long ago.

that's the one. what happened to it, it was on the site like 2 weeks ago? And why don't they make a less wide version of the razr. blech! heck, take the cam off, and give people options for a cool, thin, flat phone!

[triggarhappy]

I forgot the whole story but yes Motorola and Sprint did part from one another back in the days. I know that Sprint and Nokia did at once because Nokia said they would make a Vision phone but never did, so thats why most of nokias phone that when they finally came out were free. But I do not remember the whole story on that one.

[sprintpcsuser89]

I forgot the whole story but yes Motorola and Sprint did part from one another back in the days. I know that Sprint and Nokia did at once because Nokia said they would make a Vision phone but never did, so thats why most of nokias phone that when they finally came out were free. But I do not remember the whole story on that one.

Thanks. Someone with a real answer.

Quite frankly, Sprint simply doesn't offer a good variety of phones design wise....most of them look very similar to each other. Motorola makes the best phones.

[triggarhappy]

Thanks. Someone with a real answer.

Quite frankly, Sprint simply doesn't offer a good variety of phones design wise....most of them look very similar to each other. Motorola makes the best phones.


yes they do as I currently use the motorola v710 for alltel. I think with the merger this all should change, I hope so casue if it does not I am not sure if I will be adding another line to my current nextel account.

[sprintpcsuser89]

If Moto and Sprint wanted a working partnership, they would have 3-4 moto models available at anything from a "free w/ rebate" to a high end phone.

Exactly.
Offer three Motos like Alltel...
1. High end with all the bells and whistles that would cost $199 with new service
2. Mid range that would be about $69.99
3. And a free one that isn't much more than a phone.

Even the v262 looks better than most of the Sprint phones.

[OldPhoneGuy]

I've been happily using my Timeport for the last 4 years but Ol' Faithful is finally starting to fade. Techs at Sprint have said that service will continue to get worse for customers not using their latest models. I too was displeased to see one (or now none) Motorola phone available, especially since I have a ton of Motorola accessories inclusing TrueSync software for saving my phone book. I bought a v60v from eBay but I can't find accessories anywhere. I have purchased several that were advertised as 'v60 series compatible' but had to take them back when I discovered they were not.

[lennyj17]

Thanks. Someone with a real answer.

Quite frankly, Sprint simply doesn't offer a good variety of phones design wise....most of them look very similar to each other. Motorola makes the best phones.

and Moto Does, please, have you seen the GSM line (V220, V535, V540, V551, V300, V400, Etc), all IDen phones look the same big and bulky,(EXCLUDE THE I830), CDMA (E815, V710, and A840),

I will say that moto does make the most stylish and sleek looking phones, but when the phone is only good as a paper weight, but the 2 motos i've had Both Suck in the RF/Call Quality dept and the was the T720 and V60C

Now Sanyo may not make the cool and hip looking phones but damn if they dont get the job done, ive had the 5150, 5300, 5500 and my brother has the 7400, not one problem out of any of them, those phones were soldiers..........

you just need to ask the question what is more important to you style or quality........

[tuolumne]

Most manufactures have their rehashes....

Motorola...their entry level flips, their high end flips.
Samsung...their A500 design scheme

But they both have highly innovative designs to draw attention away...

Motorola...Razr, Pebl, Slvr, Q
Samsung...P735, A970/940, A800, D415, D500, D600, E720

Just becuase some of the line is rehashes, doesn't warrant a cause for somebody to classify them as "dull" in the design/innovative departement.

[Matt]

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Thanks. Someone with a real answer.

Quite frankly, Sprint simply doesn't offer a good variety of phones design wise....most of them look very similar to each other. Motorola makes the best phones.

and Moto Does, please, have you seen the GSM line (V220, V535, V540, V551, V300, V400, Etc), all IDen phones look the same big and bulky,(EXCLUDE THE I830), CDMA (E815, V710, and A840),

I will say that moto does make the most stylish and sleek looking phones, but when the phone is only good as a paper weight, but the 2 motos i've had Both Suck in the RF/Call Quality dept and the was the T720 and V60C

Now Sanyo may not make the cool and hip looking phones but damn if they dont get the job done, ive had the 5150, 5300, 5500 and my brother has the 7400, not one problem out of any of them, those phones were soldiers..........

you just need to ask the question what is more important to you style or quality........

My phone works fine. There are some nasty, close minded, negative people on this forum. What a shame.

[triggarhappy]

and Moto Does, please, have you seen the GSM line (V220, V535, V540, V551, V300, V400, Etc), all IDen phones look the same big and bulky,(EXCLUDE THE I830), CDMA (E815, V710, and A840),

I will say that moto does make the most stylish and sleek looking phones, but when the phone is only good as a paper weight, but the 2 motos i've had Both Suck in the RF/Call Quality dept and the was the T720 and V60C

Now Sanyo may not make the cool and hip looking phones but damn if they dont get the job done, ive had the 5150, 5300, 5500 and my brother has the 7400, not one problem out of any of them, those phones were soldiers..........

you just need to ask the question what is more important to you style or quality........

those 2 phones did suck but ther current line today are alot better then those two. Heck I got the Motorola v710 and the new Nokia 6255i and Nokias are known for picking up the best rf but my 710 has out shinned that.

[tuolumne]

V710 was a very problem prone phone from day one (rushed to market), even Motorolas CEO admits this. Motorola took a second attempt with the E815 and did great.

[Freak4Dell]

Motorolla's phones aren't all that much different from any other company's. I mean, come on. A lot of them do look the same, and even the coolest one isn't all that nice. I'm talking about the Razor. It's nice and all, but not worth $200 with service. It would be a lot nicer if they made one that was not as wide.

Anyway, as to Sprint and Motorolla, I believe they had a disagreement a while back, but I heard that they're thinking of partnering up again.

[hookedonitunes]

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68712#post641189

[bluecoyote]

While many people have their 'individual preferences,' it's hard to fault the RAZR's design- and at $200.00 (which is a natch above our Samsung A880), it's a good phone. Having you know... owned one, Sprint would be well served with the RAZR.

The RAZR is also the most reliable MOTO phone I can remember using. And I'm sorry- it's solid metal. We've all got chintzy painted-plastic silver phones (well, most of us) and we're not ones to talk.

Moto does tend to re-hash their phones, but you can't blame them- their UI is fairly nice (though the address book is hell on earth) and each re-hash offers subtle improvements in the UI. (Motorola understands "cool" in their designs- something Sprint's phone manufacturers most certainly do NOT. Compare the menu animations on a Sprint phone to a Moto phone. Look at the svelte (if junky) Moto V710 next to the Samsung A880. Yes, the Sammy has an intenna, but it doesn't look nearly as slick.

Even Moto's iDEN phones are coming around. the I860 is pretty slick.

I'm all for more Sprint Motorolas, though I'd first like some Sprint NOKIAS. Hey Sprint, how about Nokia? You know we could have the Nokia 6255i? Could have.

[DjDynasty]

The Nokia & Motorola thing with Sprint is Because Sprint wanted them to use a CDMA chipset by Qualcomm, and they wanted to use their own internally designed chip set to save on royalties. Nokia was so bad about it, very few CDMA carriers would touch Nokia for a long time, which gave them the foot hold on the GSM market. Moto doesn't like being locked out of the Ready link patents.

[tuolumne]

What are you trying to say? That Sprint only gives the RL SIGs to Samsung and Sanyo?

[CoreyTheGent]

Sprint and Motorola used to slap box on the corner all the time but it was mostly in front of their friends. Then one day, a girl that Motorola liked was watching the latest slap boxing match. Motorola, trying to impress her, got tough and started throwing serious punches when Sprint started winning, escalating the situation.

Legend has it that the fight ended in a tie. Either way, Sprint hasn't forgiven Motorola since. They never speak, never even acknowledge the other's existance.

[lennyj17]

Sprint and Motorola used to slap box on the corner all the time but it was mostly in front of their friends. Then one day, a girl that Motorola liked was watching the latest slap boxing match. Motorola, trying to impress her, got tough and started throwing serious punches when Sprint started winning, escalating the situation.

Legend has it that the fight ended in a tie. Either way, Sprint hasn't forgiven Motorola since. They never speak, never even acknowledge the other's existance.

Well they had to for the bastard child know as V60v

[Quill]

I'm all for more Sprint Motorolas, though I'd first like some Sprint NOKIAS. Hey Sprint, how about Nokia? You know we could have the Nokia 6255i? Could have.

As I've totally given up discussing the RAZR around here, I'll just snip that bit out, though I do agree.

The statement above in quotes I totally agree with. I've never met a Nokia cell phone that wasn't solid and dependable. My mom has had hers nearly two years (3589 on Qwest) and is reluctant to give it up. But, if she did, I'd just get her another Nokia.

I'm thinking I'll be getting two more phones between now and the first week of January. One will be that crappy little LG texting phone just cuz I want one and the other will be the Nokia 6682 because I think that will be my next workhorse phone. You Sprint folks need a good Symbian phone.

Oh, and on topic ... Sprint could use Moto phones, too. All you folks with those two and three year old Sanyo flips that have muddy earpieces would rejoice if you could use a good mid to high end Moto flip. That Moto SLVR is hot and I think the CDMA RAZR would sell well, especially since it will have a better camera, etc.

[bluecoyote]

Agreed, Quill. Never had a bad Nokia, though Nokias efforts (6255 and 3205) were somewhat dismal (and quite well illustrate the challenges with a CDMA phone- battery life and OS modifications) , Nokia's ground-up CDMA efforts have been phenomenal.

I wanted the 6255i badly, this is a phone Nokia intended for Sprint from day 1, but we still don't have it. They could price it higher than the LG Mm535 and I'd still get it. While I like my LG, I really do miss the European cell-phone functionality... you know, things like a full-blown calendar that synchronizes with your computer, the ability to synchronize your contacts, etc.

[CoreyTheGent]

lenny, whatever Motorola did to you, you've just gotta let it go. Holding up all that resentment inside isn't going to harm anybody but yourself. If Moto violated you in some shape or form, you must face it like a man and take back your dignity.

[lennyj17]

lenny, whatever Motorola did to you, you've just gotta let it go. Holding up all that resentment inside isn't going to harm anybody but yourself. If Moto violated you in some shape or form, you must face it like a man and take back your dignity.

What and buy another,........ no thanks

[tuolumne]

Nokia's ground-up CDMA efforts have been phenomenal.

I gravely contest that statement. Sprint and Verizon don't seem to agree based on the fact that they don't have more than one Nokia, and neither does the consumer feel content with the Nokia brand, according to current surveys, where Nokia is either below the industry average or even the last in some cases (JD Power and Associates). That point shines even more clearly through when you add in the fact that Nokia has lost 7% of it's N. American market share in the past year to Motorola, Samsung, and LG respectively, ultimately bringing them down to the 4th place market share ranking.

Now Blue, if you are going to respond, respond to the issue at hand. Dont' go backtracking and bash Samsung.

[mcurtiss1970]

you gravely contest?

[sprintpcsuser89]

I've never met a Nokia cell phone that wasn't solid and dependable.

I just cannot stand the Nokia interface.

[ssaifull]

i would love to see some moto's come our way, atleast for variety's sake. sadly, the only one that's been announced is a dual-mode CDMA/iDen phone to come in late '06 or early '07, and i'll bet that's gonna be the size of a standard nextel phone (i.e. a brick).

[contendurr]

i can't stand nokias(seem like childish play phones) and i eventually got tired of motorolas . I'd stay wit a Sanyo 4eva and if they eva were 2 go out of stock(i hope that neva happens) i would go right to a Samsung. Motorolas and Nokias aren't my favorite line-up of phone. (personal options, plz no one get offended)

[Matt]

No one should ever be offended by personal opinion. Because that is all it is. One persons opinion. Good, better, best is always opinion. My favourite ice cream is strawberry. Should someone whos favourite is chocolate be offended? No, of course not. Enjoy what you want, when you want, and if someone has a problem with it, screw em.

They don't pay your mobile phone bill. so it doesn't matter.

In general it's ignorance that bothers me.

[bluecoyote]

Tuo, JD Power doesn't rigorously test cell phones, I do. My opinion is worth more than J.D. Power's. If you take a look at who has won JD Power awards, it tends to be a little on the sketchy side. My opinions are often in line with others who rigorously test cell phones (Mobileburn, etc.) There is no way to verify the validity of J.D. Power's sampling.

When I want to form an opinion about a phone, I buy it with my own cash and use the hell out of it.

[jschu22]

I am convinced that some has gotten a hold of BC's password and is posting in his name. I tend to disagree with him, but he usually makes a little more sense than this and the other thread he started.

[shredsnow17]

We were talking about phone designs the other day...

Why exactly does Motorola not make phones for Sprint?
Alltel is on CDMA and they have several Motos (V710, V265, V262). They also have the Blackberry and several Kyoceras.

Did Sprint and Moto have a falling out or something?

motorola screwed up some things with sprint's network a few years back. but motorola does NOT hate sprint, in fat, quite the opposite. sprint and motorola are working together on a new network infrastructure to provide WiMax (search sprint motorola on google). each cellular manufacturer has agreements with networks. sprint has agreements with samsung, lg, and sanyo that probably somewhere state that sprint cannot provide any phones from other manufacturers for a certain period of time, however long the contract is. there will be some sprint motorola phones coming soon...speculation is that the dual-mode cdma/iden phone will be a motorola. and there WILL be a dual mode phone, says so on the sprint website

[Deval]

I am convinced that some has gotten a hold of BC's password and is posting in his name. I tend to disagree with him, but he usually makes a little more sense than this and the other thread he started.

:lol: thats messed up

[Deval]

No one should ever be offended by personal opinion. Because that is all it is. One persons opinion. Good, better, best is always opinion. My favourite ice cream is strawberry. Should someone whos favourite is chocolate be offended? No, of course not. Enjoy what you want, when you want, and if someone has a problem with it, screw em.

They don't pay your mobile phone bill. so it doesn't matter.

In general it's ignorance that bothers me.

:good: perfectly said

[Matt]

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Tuo, JD Power doesn't rigorously test cell phones, I do. My opinion is worth more than J.D. Power's. If you take a look at who has won JD Power awards, it tends to be a little on the sketchy side. My opinions are often in line with others who rigorously test cell phones (Mobileburn, etc.) There is no way to verify the validity of J.D. Power's sampling.

When I want to form an opinion about a phone, I buy it with my own cash and use the hell out of it.

Well la dee da. aren't you fancy?

[JNA]

"The Nokia & Motorola thing with Sprint is Because Sprint wanted them to use a CDMA chipset by Qualcomm, and they wanted to use their own internally designed chip set to save on royalties. Nokia was so bad about it, very few CDMA carriers would touch Nokia for a long time, which gave them the foot hold on the GSM market. Moto doesn't like being locked out of the Ready link patents....."

DJ pretty well summed it up right here.

Several years ago Motorola made the strategic decision to develop it's own CDMA chip versus simply adopting the proven Qualcomm unit and this was a major sticking point. Moto's chip was not quite the same as Qual's and there were some issues.

Also, Motorola has tended to hedge it's bet on the TDMA/GSM side of the house with the idea that it could develop an entire range of handsets for both domestic and international (primarily European) systems rather than multiple lines of CDMA and TDMA for each market. Once it had sold Nextel on iDen and essentially had it's own exclusive marketer for it's products....I'm sure they saw little reason to expend too much energy on CDMA which would require some not insignificant changes to it's product.

Motorola always seemed a little shy of the data capability/pictures, etc capability that many new customers were pushing for. In this area Moto has lagged in the domestic market and it is really beginning to show.

But, now, it doesn't really matter. Motorola will be greatly associated with Sprint and thus have to venture into more CDMA...

[Quill]

Tuo, JD Power doesn't rigorously test cell phones, I do. My opinion is worth more than J.D. Power's. If you take a look at who has won JD Power awards, it tends to be a little on the sketchy side. My opinions are often in line with others who rigorously test cell phones (Mobileburn, etc.) There is no way to verify the validity of J.D. Power's sampling.

When I want to form an opinion about a phone, I buy it with my own cash and use the hell out of it.

I'm going to say the same thing but in a completely different way. JD Powers and Associates typically rates products by doing consumer surveys, IIRC, rather than testing and reviewing them. User reviews on amazon, phonescoop and cnet are far more reliable indicators of quality, IMO. Even cnet editorial reviews —flawed though they may be — at least have hands-on, real world experience with the products. But, I would definitely lend more weight to someone who has used the phone -- whether it's bluecoyote or other users, cnet or the folks at Mobileburn -- than to a bunch of unscientific consumer surveys. But, that's just me.

[Freak4Dell]

Does Nokia even make high end phones? If they do, I guess not many people like them, because I have never seen a Nokia phone that was anything more than a phone. I've never even seen a Nokia flip phone.

[Dan]

I'm going to say the same thing but in a completely different way. JD Powers and Associates typically rates products by doing consumer surveys, IIRC, rather than testing and reviewing them. User reviews on amazon, phonescoop and cnet are far more reliable indicators of quality, IMO. Even cnet editorial reviews —flawed though they may be — at least have hands-on, real world experience with the products. But, I would definitely lend more weight to someone who has used the phone -- whether it's bluecoyote or other users, cnet or the folks at Mobileburn -- than to a bunch of unscientific consumer surveys. But, that's just me.


JD Power rates products on a survey of many customers using a certain manufacturers product. Opinions posted on websites selling products are of those who either loved or hated the product enough to post comments about it. In reality, you could post to a site to review a product you have never touched or used, just because you want to bash it.

When I go shopping for a new phone, I compare reviews of other users, some of what people say on review sites, and my own personal experiences. Since i have used SPCS, I have used one sony phone and since then I've been on samsungs. The reason why I keep using samsungs is simple..... never had one that wouldn't do the basic job a phone is designed to do, which is to take and place calls :scare:

Some of us have a brand loyalty, be it to samsung, sanyo, lg...... whoever. As long as it isn't fanatical and you can actually admit when a company makes a "crappy phone" like the N400, then its just a personal opinion and should never be rudely put down.

I look forward to more motorola phones on sprint, and not a basic phone like the v60 at a overpriced selling point :fingers:

[Matt]

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Does Nokia even make high end phones? If they do, I guess not many people like them, because I have never seen a Nokia phone that was anything more than a phone. I've never even seen a Nokia flip phone.

They make several high end phones for European and Asian markets.

[DjDynasty]

Does Nokia even make high end phones? If they do, I guess not many people like them, because I have never seen a Nokia phone that was anything more than a phone. I've never even seen a Nokia flip phone.


The 8800 Series is high end, the 9000 series, the Vertu is made by Nokia. I've got every Nokia that has a 1900 GSM Band in it, and every Nokia listed for GSM on Nokia-usa.com

I will admit Nokia has some crap designs, their menu system hasn't gotten prettier over the years. It's the same simple...crap, but it functions, and there is no learning curve. But the problem with no learning curve, is you don't explore as much, and don't figure out there are new features as quickly. Like voice dial. I go back and forth with nokia's. Some have it, some don't. I finally quit using it for a while and forgot which ones did and didn't. The biggest POS to me is any Nokia with the Navi-Key. 5100, 3390, 1100

[Quill]

*Snip*
When I go shopping for a new phone, I compare reviews of other users, some of what people say on review sites, and my own personal experiences. Since i have used SPCS, I have used one sony phone and since then I've been on samsungs. The reason why I keep using samsungs is simple..... never had one that wouldn't do the basic job a phone is designed to do, which is to take and place calls :scare:

*Snip*

I look forward to more motorola phones on sprint, and not a basic phone like the v60 at a overpriced selling point :fingers:

See, that's exactly how I think people should shop for a phone. That's how I do my research and ultimately make my decision. I'm not saying JD Powers and Associates is bad, just that customers surveys alone are not enough to base a decision on, something you might agree with.

I'm not really brand loyal. I used to be a major Sanyo fangirl until I switched and had to use other brands ... Now I just want to use as many cell phones as I can get my hands on. ;)

I think it would be great if there were more Motorola phones on Sprint. Variety is the spice of life and it makes good business sense for every carrier to have a wide variety of phones so you can appeal to all different types of users.

[scotsboyuk]

The 8800 Series is high end, the 9000 series, the Vertu is made by Nokia. I've got every Nokia that has a 1900 GSM Band in it, and every Nokia listed for GSM on Nokia-usa.com


The 8800 series is not high-end, high priced certainly, but not high-end. The 8800 is a 'premium handset'. The reason I say this is because the 8800 has rather basic features in many regards e.g. VGA camera; little in the way of true multimedia support, etc.

That isn't to say it isn't a good handset, but compared with the N90, 6680, SE W800, etc it isn't really high-end.

[DjDynasty]

The 8800 series is not high-end, high priced certainly, but not high-end. The 8800 is a 'premium handset'. The reason I say this is because the 8800 has rather basic features in many regards e.g. VGA camera; little in the way of true multimedia support, etc.

That isn't to say it isn't a good handset, but compared with the N90, 6680, SE W800, etc it isn't really high-end.
When the 8800 series was released, the 8200 series had also been released. So at that time, it was a high end model. Now, it's pretty basic. But that was 6 years ago. A little factoid for the cell phone geeks. Watch QAF. Every Phone you've ever seen in Brian Kinney's hand, I own.

[Matt]

Brian Kinney is a **** though. heh

oops off topic. :)

[mcurtiss1970]

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They make several high end phones for European and Asian markets.

i'd consider my 6230 mid-high range. and the upcoming 6682 to be high-range

http://www.mobilestartup.com/images/6682.jpg

[Quill]

i'd consider my 6230 mid-high range. and the upcoming 6682 to be high-range

http://www.mobilestartup.com/images/6682.jpg

Me too ... drool. Me likey the 6682. I think I'll buy myself one for Christmas.

It's too bad neither Nokia nor Moto would grace CDMA users with such phones.

Oh, and PDX, *** is QAF and who the hell is Brian Kinney?

[WallyFSU@qwest]

I am surprised to see Qwest is going to still sell Motorola products. Some time this year Qwest will be selling the Moto v710, probably replacing the T731 they no longer sell.

[Quill]

I wonder how much the Sprint-Nextel merger will affect Qwest's wireless phone lineup?

[Deval]

funny you mention Quest...they tried to sell me on the 8200 when I was in Minneapolis...till I showed her my LG 535 and gave her my business card :lol:

[hotnspicychic03]

funny you mention Quest...they tried to sell me on the 8200 when I was in Minneapolis...till I showed her my LG 535 and gave her my business card :lol:
lol...at least she was trying to do her job... cant blame a girl for trying :-)

[tuolumne]

i'd consider my 6230 mid-high range. and the upcoming 6682 to be high-range

http://www.mobilestartup.com/images/6682.jpg

Ugh, that phones is huge....

Smaller Series 60 phones Nokia....Smaller.

[Deval]

lol...at least she was trying to do her job... cant blame a girl for trying :-)


Yeah, I dont think this should affect their phone selection alot

[Quill]

Ugh, that phones is huge....

Smaller Series 60 phones Nokia....Smaller.

Uh, no it's not huge. That photo is deceptive. Side by side photos of it with a 6230 show it is slightly taller and wider than a 6230. It's an excellent size.

Look at photos in this HoFo thread for a better idea of its size.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=667565&highlight=6682

[Dan]

Maybe the thread should be called, why did sprint and motorola hate each other, and what can we do to fix their friendship?


I think with the release of a hybrid phone sometime next year that sprintel and moto will have a wonderful new relationship......

[Chris Price]

Sprint found out Verizon was getting the V60x when they were getting stuck with the V60c. Sprint wanted V60x's and Motorola said VZW had an exclusive on them.

Mind you, this was when converting to 3G voice-only phones was priority one for Sprint. So, Sprint said Motorola could walk, kept their first batch of 10,000 V120c's and 1,000 V60's, and Motorola left.

Oddly enough, the first Motorola to return to Sprint's lineup was the V60x in a limited promotion with Mercedes Benz. I'm not sure if the people running SEBU now were the same ones at that time, but, it is very odd that SEBU finally got what they wanted four years later.

[the2ndflood]

Motorola does not hate Sprint, Sprint has a problem with Moto over prices and software for thier phones. Sprint needs phones to be a nice price, dependable and have the correct software to fully utilize the Sprint network. Moto is stubborn with that. So Sprint started using Sanyo, because they will work hand-in-hand.

Hopefully Motorola will now start to help out Sprint.

Russell

[Jaggrey]

Sprint found out Verizon was getting the V60x when they were getting stuck with the V60c. Sprint wanted V60x's and Motorola said VZW had an exclusive on them.

Mind you, this was when converting to 3G voice-only phones was priority one for Sprint. So, Sprint said Motorola could walk, kept their first batch of 10,000 V120c's and 1,000 V60's, and Motorola left.

Oddly enough, the first Motorola to return to Sprint's lineup was the V60x in a limited promotion with Mercedes Benz. I'm not sure if the people running SEBU now were the same ones at that time, but, it is very odd that SEBU finally got what they wanted four years later.
See I knew I wasn't crazy when I saw my friend's V120c with a Sprint logo. That was the only one I ever saw tho. And to this day I still haven't seen the Moto V60 that Sprint carried.

[Deval]

yeah they even had the v60 line with BMW/MB

[YPG]

Motorola does not hate Sprint, Sprint has a problem with Moto over prices and software for thier phones. Sprint needs phones to be a nice price, dependable and have the correct software to fully utilize the Sprint network. Moto is stubborn with that. So Sprint started using Sanyo, because they will work hand-in-hand.

Hopefully Motorola will now start to help out Sprint.

Russell

From what I heard at My associate's meeting this week, Sprint decided to stop working with Motorola because their phones were expensive and the technology was not up to par with those of other manufacturers (Sanyo).
Buuuuuuut...
Motorola should be rolling out phones for Sprint soon. The first dual PTT phone should be out in 2006 and made by Moto!

[rf_output]

:haha: Motorola Radios are the best period.

I know alot of you may not know alot about Motorola itself has been the world class leader in the Radio Market for several years and has been in America since the dawn of radio in the early 1900's just for a quick histiry lesson ...


The Quasar Works in a drawer TV was new technology
Motorola has its own line of Semiconductors
2 way radios were at one time vaccum tube
The Moto TV was renamed Quasar & later dropped out
Alot of Ham Operators chosen Motorola because of its engineering design
They made Pagers before Uniden was on the Market
Motorola was the devloper of the iDen technology, Flex Technology for their communications products
Their Bag phone another well engineered quality product


:)

I just scratched the surface there was a history of motorola a few yrs ago on TV for example State of Michigan has Motorola for their Digital Trunked 2 way communications system, they had a few GE old brick radios but GE is not in that market anymore. If you were to type in your fav search engine any of these models...


Mitrek
Maratrack
Micor
CDM 1550
MCS 2000 flash port
MTX 300
Astro
Sabre
Minitor
Spirit


You would see alot of discussion for Community Governments Amateur Radio Comments etc..

also in Making Motorola is building a new kind of internet device that I am under liberty not to disclose presently, the issues are at FCC & ARRL discussion that is another topic and is something I do not want to discuss here.

[rf_output]

See I knew I wasn't crazy when I saw my friend's V120c with a Sprint logo. That was the only one I ever saw tho. And to this day I still haven't seen the Moto V60 that Sprint carried.

I had the Time Port and the V 120 e good technology @ the time but I went 1st. time for Sanyo , my ex brother-in-law was an engineer for Sanyo that had a Sears contract @ 1 X but I noted LG is Sears new Appliance mfgr.

I would be curious of what Moto has for new stuff but I mainly subscribe to their Commercial Engineering stuff or order any CDs or DVDs of advertising.

[rf_output]

Motorola does not hate Sprint, Sprint has a problem with Moto over prices and software for thier phones. Sprint needs phones to be a nice price, dependable and have the correct software to fully utilize the Sprint network. Moto is stubborn with that. So Sprint started using Sanyo, because they will work hand-in-hand.

Hopefully Motorola will now start to help out Sprint.

Russell

Say Russel..

Motorola has spent alot of time and money building and designing very high quality equiptment for years If I could show you for example say a Motorola Astro 2 way they use alot of sheilding in different boards moreover double sheilding and using a feed thru capacitor when going from one point to another, Motorola prides itself in Engineering Design a Radio that has very low Emissions RF wise that meet or even exceed FCC Certification, alot of us TECHIES know that ! Kenwood back in the 1970's when CB radio was a fad you probably remember it Kenwood designed a Stereo to be RF tight as possible using Metal Chasiss as well metal sheilding for certain parts of the reciever their ad claim was CB interference was much lower or no interference from CB sets at all, and at a Electronics Lab we discussed Motorola was probably not enetring the CB Market, but they did !

Motorola will not by any means produce a cheap product or have unsafe emissions by any means but there may be some cases that certain models may not met that standard and I may not be aware of such.

yes I own a Sanyo, also I own a Icom V-8000 and a Yeasu Vertex VX-150

alot of Repeater Builders who are die hard Motorola people will tell you how well design they are and ocasionally discussion of other Brands.

Yes I am a Techie and I am getting a Degree in IT I was also offered to apply for Assistant Cheif Engineer but I had to have a IT degree, I may persue other degrees later on.

I also encourage other people who want to get into Electronics that feild is wide open despite naysayers ( dime a dozen useless comments) weather you want to get into Celluar Communications, 2 Way Radio, Broadcasting, Electronic Engineering, Amateur Radio as a Hobby, ( BTW I hold a Extra Class License )

Now if you want poor junk quality :scare: thats another story.

[NASCAR14FAN]

We were talking about phone designs the other day...

Why exactly does Motorola not make phones for Sprint?
Alltel is on CDMA and they have several Motos (V710, V265, V262). They also have the Blackberry and several Kyoceras.

Did Sprint and Moto have a falling out or something?
Moto mostly did offer (or SPRINT ordered) krap! But now, Moto really needs to step up thier game Dual mode and NEXTEL phones. We'll def get better stuff when dual mode comes out.

[smali26]

I totally agree with you