View Full Version : How To: Animations? CMX/.PMD
ringmaker4205
01-15-2003, 02:44 PM
OK I read the other post but no one gives exact instructions or links on how to create Animatins. Lets make this the page that discribes how to do it. Please post Instructions, links, tips, any thing that might help people.
Thanks!
Xlife
01-15-2003, 04:01 PM
Well we can't give exact instructions any better than what was in the last thread because the program is in japanese. There are two links to the program in the the other thread as well, it's just that the site is in japanese. But anyhow, the program is http://www1.odn.ne.jp/ysk/ktpic100.lzh u can expand the file with winACE or WinRAR (i don't think winzip will work correctly, at least not in wizard mode). When you get the program open it and click on the wizard with the magic wand, change the radio button to the second option (it has ".pmd" in it) and choose the pmd option from the dropdown menu. Then click what we assume is a browse button beside the text field and find an animated gif on your system. one of the buttons has a ">" character on it, that's what we assume is the next button. Keep clicking it to get through the process, we don't know what many of the other options do because of the whole japanese thing. when the next button is grayed out there will be another text field and a button. type in a file name and click the button and it will save your .pmd file in the same directory as the animated gif. that's the best i got...maybe someone else can elaborate.
ringmaker4205
01-15-2003, 04:05 PM
OK but one question what is an "animated gift" as you called it. a small movie, or animation done in paint?
Xlife
01-15-2003, 04:12 PM
i meant animated gif. as in a .gif file. it's a picture file with mutliple frames strung together in an animation. Gifs can be solid state or animated, but for animated screensaver purposes you'll obviously need an animated file. you can search the net and find tons of them whether they're on a site archiving free animations or on another site where it's just being used.
Xlife
01-15-2003, 04:15 PM
This is an animated gif...
Frog.gif
Sorry, forgot to address the paint part of your question. No you can't create animated gif files in paint. You can see programs like Jasc's animation shop, or some online utilities (I believe there is one called gif creator or animation station or something). Both of these types of tools will let you take multiple picture files and will link them together in a gif. A program like animation shop will give you more options converning frames per second, transparency, looping, etc.
ringmaker4205
01-15-2003, 04:23 PM
OK so do you use anything in particular, that you might recomend or know where to get one of these programs? And you could link animated picture files couldn't you?
Xlife
01-15-2003, 04:28 PM
Umm...a search engine? You're gonna have to look for something on your own. I mentioned Jasc's Animation Shop. I have Animation Shop 3. It, however, is not a free utility.If you wanted to purchase it you could head over to www.jasc.com or find some other creative way of procuring it that i'm not EVEN suggesting out or respect to our webmaster(s). In any case there are lots of things out there if you take the time to look, and there are lots of animated gifs already made. (if you don't know anything about it, i doubt that you will make anything close to the quality of images already available for free all over the net...). Since animation files are just linked together still images, yes you can link together a whole lot of still images. You'll get ridiculous file sizes of course, but you can do it.
ringmaker4205
01-15-2003, 05:27 PM
OK got my free 3d animation creator. it is really powerful, but their is a 72 page manual!(OH NO!!!!!) thanks
dannydos
01-15-2003, 05:50 PM
damn it i can't get it to work i used acewin to open it but it's not happening
Xlife
01-15-2003, 06:32 PM
try WinRar
064cobra
01-15-2003, 07:40 PM
I'm surprised that we've haven't figured this one out.
It's got to be a simelar process...
-Cobra
dannydos
01-15-2003, 08:50 PM
so guys we just need someone that can read japanese right.... to get this program figured out.
Xlife
01-15-2003, 09:06 PM
yeah someone who could read japanese would help us figure out the program, but I have a sinking feeling that the compatiblity issues will not be solved by the program (i know that you sanyo users don't HAVE compatiblity issues! lol). Hopefully it knowing all the menus and selections will allow us to increase the FPS and deal with the issues of it not handling transparency and the backgrounds coming through some images and other forms of distortion. It might tell us what size the .gif needs to be in the first place.
dxfan
01-16-2003, 12:59 AM
i got a jap frind who cna come over next weekend hell look at it
xj911
01-16-2003, 01:44 AM
just use babel fish to translate the help page. It's not much help though trust me.
I'm not sure if this program lets you convert an animated gif over to a pmd file and let you keep the same framerate. it seems considerably slower, and doesn't seem to work for any phones besides Sanyo phones.
here's an example I did:
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/johnghazzagh/ryu3.gcd
it's a big file, but if you have a Sanyo phone you should be able to save it as a animated screensaver.
good luck...
b96miata
01-16-2003, 07:49 AM
The frame rate is less in the way the file is made, and more an issue of the phones themselves. It seems as if it pretty much redraws the whole screen every frame, and that takes time. You can tell it to go as fast as you like, I just don't know that current handsets can keep up. Hopefully as the vision service matures more, the handset manufacturers will come out with more powerful phones that have a broader range of compatibility. Keep in mind though that there will always be a "bargain" market for phones and those will not always work as well as the latest and greatest. (then of course there are phones that are expensive and are just crap, like my a500).
Nihilanth
01-16-2003, 09:15 AM
Will a .PMD animation work on a sanyo 4900/5300? I was under the impression it only accepted CMX files (which is a proprietary format, and the software to make it costs $500 from one of qualcomm's partners)
b96miata
01-16-2003, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by Nihilanth
Will a .PMD animation work on a sanyo 4900/5300? I was under the impression it only accepted CMX files (which is a proprietary format, and the software to make it costs $500 from one of qualcomm's partners)
pmd=cmx (more or less) as far as I can tell anyway. application/x-pmd is the mime type that sprint gave out for cmx.
best way to determine if your phone will take anything, is to try it.
xj911
01-16-2003, 10:01 AM
"The frame rate is less in the way the file is made, and more an issue of the phones themselves
It's not true, becuase on the preview part of ktaipic (right b4 you save) its that slow there too. the eyeball posted in the other thread worked fine, and sprint's animations work well too. It's something else with that ktaipic program...
xj911
01-16-2003, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by Nihilanth
Will a .PMD animation work on a sanyo 4900/5300? I was under the impression it only accepted CMX files (which is a proprietary format, and the software to make it costs $500 from one of qualcomm's partners)
actually at this time, pmd files are only working on sanyo phones. Samsung and LG phones have an error message applied. I'm not too sure about other models such as hitachi but I'm sure they would have the same error.
b96miata
01-16-2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by xj911
actually at this time, pmd files are only working on sanyo phones. Samsung and LG phones have an error message applied. I'm not too sure about other models such as hitachi but I'm sure they would have the same error.
they do work on samsungs ;) I wouldn't have bothered to take it this far if they didn't. Only problem is they only show up as ringers, which is not too useful. sanyo's can assign them as a screensaver, and lg's can't play them at all.
I think the eyeball looks better because its a pretty small image and only 3 frames. I tried taking the fire animation I made a while back and speeding it up in psmplayer, and it barely budged. I could be wrong but I think we're really hitting the performance barrier on some phones. Same way now that I have a big wallpaper instead of a factory one, my main screen takes longer to come up when I open the phone.
xj911
01-16-2003, 10:12 AM
yeah i understand what your saying, but I don't know why it would be that slow on the actual proggie if it were not actually that slow. Although the pmd file I posted earlier is only 3 frames, but there's gotta be a trick to speeding them up. Dangit why couldn't they just use animated gifs? :(
Ringers might not be too bad, if you could add sound somehow and assign it to someone, might not be too bad. :)
b96miata
01-16-2003, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by xj911
yeah i understand what your saying, but I don't know why it would be that slow on the actual proggie if it were not actually that slow. Although the pmd file I posted earlier is only 3 frames, but there's gotta be a trick to speeding them up. Dangit why couldn't they just use animated gifs? :(
Ringers might not be too bad, if you could add sound somehow and assign it to someone, might not be too bad. :)
well adding sound would be nice... but if you get psmplayer (available various places) You can make pmd's that are *just* sound. It sounds stupid, but, if you feed a midi file through it, it comes out significantly smaller, and sounds exactly the same. Nice way to crunch down the size of your ringtone collection. I haven't found a way to accomplish this with qcp's but I imagine they're already about as compressed as possible.
xj911
01-16-2003, 10:21 AM
I just edit my midi's down to about 30 secs cause I usually don't take longer than that to answer the phone. :)
I also tweek them a little to make them sound better on the 4900, since it's not as loud as the a500 i used to have.
I posted some of the midi's i cut if you want to use them:
http://board.midibuddy.net/t10488.html
b96miata
01-16-2003, 10:23 AM
Oh and no one likes to use gif anymore because of the nasty patent issues surrounding it. I know it's still for the most part king on the web, but knowing how qualcomm is with intellectual property, its easy to see how cmx (we make money on every chip with it, and can get $$$ by selling companies the right to make authoring tools) won out over gif (pay money to unisys/compuserve/ibm/whoeveritisthisweek for every chip) Also, it's worth noting that cmx is actually much more suited for the application. It provides for mixing sound and graphics, compression of midi data, and (if I'm not mistaken) simple vector animation, which would drive the size down even more. We'll see how cmx continues to fare when the mobile svg standard starts getting use, though I wouldn't be surprised to see a revised cmx that simply brought svg under the umbrella as one of the formats it could contain.
xj911
01-16-2003, 10:25 AM
well then I wish the software wasn't so expensive. :(
Xlife
01-16-2003, 12:53 PM
i still haven't heard back from the email addy i got in the help file. Granted, it was a bug report addy..but wouldn't that mean that someone on the programming side would receive it. I send the email in english and japanese in case they couldn't read it. oh well.
gogoneko
01-16-2003, 03:28 PM
Well since I have lived in Japan and read it fairly well I will try downloading this on my Japanese computer later tonight. Maybe it will work? Anyway, I'll report the results.
Xlife
01-16-2003, 03:32 PM
you don't need a japanese computer to d/l it. Windows just has to have the language pack installed (it probably already does)
064cobra
01-16-2003, 03:42 PM
Are you serious?? !! ??
Maybe he has to be in Japan to see it too.
It's a good thing half the parts in his computer were made in Japan. He'll only be able to read it if his computer monitor was made in Japan.
:)
--I'm sure he's well aware of that!--
-Cobra
gogoneko
01-16-2003, 04:22 PM
nope don't have to be in Japan =) you can have a computer set in Japanese "mode" I guess you would call it - it's basically bought from Japan. Therfore everything runs Japanese things smoothly (Java, system applications, etc...) And I don't know about the monitor in Japan thing since a monitor just spits out what it's given but, hmm... lol anyways I'll post on this later =)
Xlife
01-16-2003, 08:34 PM
he was trying to be sarcastic in response to my reply, even though my reply was given because u said you'd d/l it to your japanese computer. Some people think they're clever =)
064cobra
01-17-2003, 12:29 AM
Come now. That was a funny sarcastic.
He found it funny.
I was laughing while typing it.
-Cobra
dxfan
01-17-2003, 12:41 AM
lets get back on track here
dxfan
01-17-2003, 12:47 AM
someon try this make it a gcd the http://www.enigma.mc****.com/music.pmd
Content-Type: application/x-pmd
please and post the gcd so we can see if the musichas a beter sound quality than a regular mIDI
dxfan
01-17-2003, 12:57 AM
http://orange80.virtualave.net/melody.html
b96miata
01-17-2003, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by dxfan
someon try this make it a gcd the http://www.enigma.mc****.com/music.pmd
Content-Type: application/x-pmd
please and post the gcd so we can see if the musichas a beter sound quality than a regular mIDI
If it was created from a midi....there is no way the sound quality would be better.... The advantage of turning midi's to pmd is the smaller size, its still really the same data
disforw
01-17-2003, 09:36 AM
it says here that a PMD file is an Adobe PageMaker Document
http://extsearch.com/
xj911
01-17-2003, 09:50 AM
LOL,
your thinking of the wrong .pmd file.
The pmd we are talking about is associated with cmx files, which are animated ringtone files.
ringmaker4205
01-17-2003, 04:16 PM
OK anybody got that program to work in english yet, or figure it all out?
xj911
01-17-2003, 05:11 PM
I got it to work, but i can't get the framerate right.
oh yeah, can't get it to work as a screen saver unless you have a sanyo phone.
Here's a couple of my latest attempts:
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/johnghazzagh/pbj.gcd
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/johnghazzagh/fhill.gcd
dxfan
01-17-2003, 05:30 PM
this seems to be the sharewre version of the progrma because i say it listed right under the full so i think maybe the frame rate is because its share ware? like a restriction
xj911
01-17-2003, 05:37 PM
Man someone purchase it! LOL, I'll see if i can translate that page with babelfish and find out what's up.
dxfan
01-17-2003, 06:30 PM
PMD stands for Pocket MELODY data ( i believe)
xj911
01-17-2003, 06:45 PM
Pocket melody? Sounds like a girly name for a fart. LOL :D
Xlife
01-17-2003, 08:31 PM
it's not shareware.
gogoneko
01-17-2003, 09:31 PM
Ok well, I finally went to that guys website and translated the stuff. I'm not sure what program you guys are downloading the the three he has in his download section are called EZ Keitai (cell phone) picture, auto mobsync, and shisumon. I'm almost positive shisumon is just short for system manager, so that really has nothing to do with mobile phones ^^;; Now, I have tried installing this on my Vaio, but it says it cannot find a certain file (i think it was like LHA, it kept telling me nothing was able to run without it, not even win zip really) so if you guys know the problem, please be so kind to tell me? =) Thanks , bye for now.
064cobra
01-18-2003, 04:56 AM
I believe you have to use WinRAR to get it to unpack properly.
-Cobra
xj911
01-18-2003, 09:58 AM
Yeah Winrar will unpack it. lzh file. :)
gogoneko
01-18-2003, 12:52 PM
Eh heh, where's that ^^;; winrar.com did not respond .. so I'm going to go to download.com now and serach! =)
xj911
01-18-2003, 12:57 PM
ya download.com should have it. If you can't find it let me know and I will email it to ya in zip format.
gogoneko
01-18-2003, 01:14 PM
Hey I just got it - It has a lot of little editing thingies for the image too, like sepia, greyscale, solarization, Negapoji (negative), blurring, Edge, noise, Shapu (then you can pick from middle, left, right) emboss, darken, etc... you can then select the amount of colors, even black and white if you want. the two scaley things under all the basic menu stuff are "brightness" and "contrast" . The buttons with cute pictures (from left to right) are "group" "anime" "animate mail" and "mail to your phone" - most of that is propriatery to EzWeb and AU phones in Japan thugh so, all we're worried about is anime. When you click on the anime button (with the bunny) the first thing you have to pick is format. There's PNG, and PMD. Under that you have to make another selection. You can make a png from a file, or from a gif anime file. Then you can press next and start adding files. To add files there shuld be alittle button with an A next to it. Click next, yada yada, till you get to an area with the files you selected highlighted in gray. now you can also add text. now you can save by pressing the button with an S at the end. Hope this clears some of it up, any japanese questions please ask me =)
xj911
01-18-2003, 01:25 PM
Awesome man! Do you think you could figure out how to increase the framerate? everything I make is superslow. :D
gogoneko
01-18-2003, 01:43 PM
Hm... I've searched around all over and I can't find frame rate anywhere. You know for some reason my phone will not download PMD files =( someone know why? I have 5300 by sanyo.
xj911
01-18-2003, 02:13 PM
the tech here has a sanyo 5300 and it works fine on his phone. (cept for the framerate thing)
try one of these:
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/johnghazzagh/ryu3.gcd
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/johnghazzagh/fhill.gcd
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/johnghazzagh/pbj.gcd
let me know if those work for ya.
gogoneko
01-18-2003, 02:16 PM
Hey that worked! where do you convert pmd files to gcd?? lol
xj911
01-18-2003, 02:36 PM
I didn't just used good old notepad. :)
Content-Type: application/x-pmd
Content-Name: (name)
Content-Version: 1.0
Content-Vendor: (vendor)
Content-URL: http:// (url here)
Content-Size: (size)
gogoneko
01-18-2003, 03:07 PM
Oh! heh well that solves it. hmm - question - my friend has a server and he let me use it for gcd files and such (yes he put the pcs tag thingy on the server too) but the problem is - they only work if the file is under 20 k! does anyone know how to fix that, or where I can upload gcd files to? That would be a huge help... my site (which is listed under the links in sprintusers.com wap site as JT star) is having difficulties with downloads because of that. Thanks for your time! =)
sanyoMan
01-18-2003, 07:36 PM
the .gcd, .png, .pmd files that are used to upload animated screen savers are incompatible with sanyo 5300 phones. when you d/l these types of files, there is a 907 data error upon completion. do you know how to get riid of this?
Xlife
01-18-2003, 09:58 PM
obviously they're not incompatible if he just got it to work with his 5300. I think the problem some of you are having is that you don't know that a .gcd file is not a multimedia format. It's more or less a text file (with a .gcd extenstion instead of a .txt) that gives information about/points to a file that the phone can handle. For example, a gcd for an animated screensaver is not a "converted" version of the .pmd file, it's just a file telling the phone that you're trying to download an animated screensaver, as well as where it is located. There are programs now that will write gcd files for you automatically, or you can do it online with sites such as 3gupload.com or the focus tool available right on this site!
064cobra
01-19-2003, 12:07 AM
What I've learned about 907 & 908 from my own server...
When the server sends a response to the phone that it didn't expect or doesn't understand. Usually (in my case) my server had responsed with an HTML error page instead of the .gcd data.
When the mime was added, these errors stopped. Does that mean that's all it is?...probably not..cause I'm sure others cured their errors by doing something else....
...if that helps any...
-Cobra
xj911
01-19-2003, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Xlife
obviously they're not incompatible if he just got it to work with his 5300. I think the problem some of you are having is that you don't know that a .gcd file is not a multimedia format. It's more or less a text file (with a .gcd extenstion instead of a .txt) that gives information about/points to a file that the phone can handle. For example, a gcd for an animated screensaver is not a "converted" version of the .pmd file, it's just a file telling the phone that you're trying to download an animated screensaver, as well as where it is located. There are programs now that will write gcd files for you automatically, or you can do it online with sites such as 3gupload.com or the focus tool available right on this site!
or you can use notepad. ;)
xj911
01-19-2003, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by 064cobra
What I've learned about 907 & 908 from my own server...
When the server sends a response to the phone that it didn't expect or doesn't understand. Usually (in my case) my server had responsed with an HTML error page instead of the .gcd data.
When the mime was added, these errors stopped. Does that mean that's all it is?...probably not..cause I'm sure others cured their errors by doing something else....
...if that helps any...
-Cobra
Yeah that's the problem in most cases. You have to be able to add mime types on your server, if not, then you have to contact your provider and have them add the mime type.
SanyoMan
01-19-2003, 03:26 PM
so in order to put animation files such as extentions (.png, .pmd, etc. ) you would have to put a link to them through the .gcd file?
because i have tried the method of putting the animation files straight to the phone (bypassing any .gcd file), and it does not work.
Xlife
01-19-2003, 03:40 PM
so in order to put animation files such as extentions (.png, .pmd, etc. ) you would have to put a link to them through the .gcd file?
because i have tried the method of putting the animation files straight to the phone (bypassing any .gcd file), and it does not work.
Exactly. using the focus tool automatically writes a gcd file with the correct info in it for your file, and it also text messages your phone with a link (that u can choose to follow with the menu) that will go straight to the file. Automated and totally simple.
or you can use notepad.
Yeah gcd's can be made in notepad, but if they didn't know what a gcd was, how do you expect them to write one? Besides using GCD creator or the focus tool is SO much faster than changing the same notepad document over and over and, well...over. =)
SanyoMan
01-19-2003, 04:22 PM
i have tried to upload the .png file using the upload tool given on this site (focus uploader). the tool creates a .gcd file for me to d/l, however once again, i experience the same 907 error upon completion of download.
is there a limit of kb the file has to be? a limit of frames the .png file has to be?
i have the sanyo 5300, and i believe somone else has been able to put animated screen savers on their phone, but i however, am not able to save it on my phone.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
xj911
01-19-2003, 05:32 PM
i don't think the focus tool works for .pmd files.
just send this link to your phone:
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/johnghazzagh/ryu3.gcd
that should get you an animation.
064cobra
01-19-2003, 05:39 PM
I sent you the requested info in a private message!
-Cobra
-Time to go to work!
Xlife
01-19-2003, 06:20 PM
yeah and if your end result in the animation process is a png file, then you didn't do it correctly. png files are still images, you want a pmd file for animation. Change the options in the program to read .pmd, not .png.
dadojbe
01-20-2003, 07:15 AM
OK - I thought these pmd files worked on A500s. If so, will they give us the ability to create multi-image (animated?) pmd files which allow one of the images to show up in the external lcd as a ringer image when assigned in the phonebook? This is one of my issues with the A500 - the images in the man and animal folder are inadequate, but I can't seem to download an image which will work the same way. Thanks for any insight.
SanyoMan
01-20-2003, 12:25 PM
can someone help me please?
i created the .pmd file (a converted .gif animation) and then i used a .gcd file to link the .pmd file.
but when the phone downloads the .gcd file, it has the size of 1kb, instead of the size of the .pmd file. i have input all variables and numbers correctly including the size of the .pmd file in the .gcd file. but for some reason i don't know why the total amount of the .gcd file results to only 1kb in downloading from the phone.
This results in an error i get in the end that says "size mismatch error".
xj911
01-20-2003, 12:40 PM
here's what it should look like
Content-Type: application/x-pmd
Content-Name: (insert name here)
Content-Version: 1.0
Content-Vendor: (put your website or name here)
Content-URL: (URL of .pmd)
Content-Size: (actual size of .pmd file on drive)
on the size, you gotta make sure you put the actual size on the hard drive. If you don't know, just right click the file and go to properties.
CEGiven
01-20-2003, 02:58 PM
can someone help me please?
I've seen Size Mismatch during testing of new material. If I get it wrong, and fix it, it confuses the phone. The phone caches the old GCD so it doesn't retrieve the new, repaired GCD. So when the file arrives it is a different size than what the phone expected. The best fix is to turn off your phone and retry.
If you're still having problems, and the GCD file's Content-Size is 100% absolutely, undeniable accurate, there may be a caching problem between the phone and the file (web server, Sprint proxy server, or the phone cache didn't reset).
When you give the Content-Size it must be in bytes. Don't use any suffix (e.g., 1024 not 1K). For a file that's 4K in size it would look like this:
Content-Size: 4096
Double check that the file size you're checking is the file size on the web server. If you FTP'd it up to the web server, maybe something went wrong. Be sure you do a binary FTP. Verify that the file you FTP'd to the web server is a binary identical to the source.
xj911
01-20-2003, 03:05 PM
you could also check, sometimes you need a blank line at the top of the gcd file.
bgalaviz
01-20-2003, 03:57 PM
Hey, I'm new here and wand to try and find a program that can convert *.gif files to Sanyo-4900 friendly files. Thanks for letting me know about this little program. I took the Help file and translated with altavista to get a somewhat english file that is a little bit easier on the eyes. Maybe together we can figure this program out.
dxfan
01-20-2003, 04:30 PM
Tempo the tempo which indicates animation is set. As for default with 127, the extent tempo whose value is large becomes fast.
* Weight several the number of waitings of scenes and scene is set.
* Weight time weight several one waiting of amounts is set. As for default with 255, the extent display interval whose value is small becomes fast.
xj911
01-20-2003, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by bgalaviz
Hey, I'm new here and wand to try and find a program that can convert *.gif files to Sanyo-4900 friendly files. Thanks for letting me know about this little program. I took the Help file and translated with altavista to get a somewhat english file that is a little bit easier on the eyes. Maybe together we can figure this program out.
Where you been? LOL :D
xj911
01-20-2003, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by dxfan
Tempo the tempo which indicates animation is set. As for default with 127, the extent tempo whose value is large becomes fast.
* Weight several the number of waitings of scenes and scene is set.
* Weight time weight several one waiting of amounts is set. As for default with 255, the extent display interval whose value is small becomes fast.
I've tried changing all of these and it doesn't really make the animation faster. If anyone has any different luck let me know.
Nihilanth
01-20-2003, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by SanyoMan
can someone help me please?
i created the .pmd file (a converted .gif animation) and then i used a .gcd file to link the .pmd file.
but when the phone downloads the .gcd file, it has the size of 1kb, instead of the size of the .pmd file. i have input all variables and numbers correctly including the size of the .pmd file in the .gcd file. but for some reason i don't know why the total amount of the .gcd file results to only 1kb in downloading from the phone.
This results in an error i get in the end that says "size mismatch error".
what program did you use to convert the .gif to .pmd?
bgalaviz
01-20-2003, 09:20 PM
If you install the program, it creates an ktapic.ini file. If you open it up with notepad, in english it has the settings in english. In the Help file I posted earlier, it said something about a tempo and weight time. In the ini file it has the settings in there. I guess i can play with them to try and get the animations to go faster. I'll let you know what happens. Till next time.
xj911
01-20-2003, 09:23 PM
*okay, wishing they would just let us have the American software version*
just making things difficult. :(
ThePresident
01-21-2003, 11:24 PM
Dunno if anyone's asked this yet, but does anyone know just what this program is doing? I mean, physically?
If there's some writeup of what needs to be done, it won't be too hard to just say screw it and write an american version of the program.
Hell, a friend of mine is a software engineer and speaks passing Japanese, if only we could get the source code for this thing, he'd have it working in no time. ;)
xj911
01-22-2003, 07:41 AM
Wish I knew friend, but I can barely get the damn thing to work much less any code. :D
bgalaviz
01-22-2003, 08:37 AM
I actuall email the kid that wrote the program. I had to use Altavista to translate it into Japanese, but I asked him about an american version or if he could give me the code to make an english version. I'll let you know when I hear back from him.
Xlife
01-22-2003, 02:24 PM
I used that email a while ago bg, and still haven't heard back.
Nihilanth
01-22-2003, 03:49 PM
a friend of mine is a third-year japanese language major, and probably wouldn't have any trouble translating everything in the program. someone hook me up with the proggie and i'll post screenshots with the translated text next to each item.
bgalaviz
01-22-2003, 03:53 PM
Go to the first page of the thread and there is a link about 2 or 3 posts down.
Xlife
01-22-2003, 04:10 PM
we've already had someone who speaks japanese look at the program. They didn't find anything useful that we weren't aware of. (no increasing the framerate or anything of that nature)
xj911
01-22-2003, 04:15 PM
back to the drawing board. :(
i found out how to fix the probalem.don't make change Tempo and WaitTime in ini file.when u making the pmd in step 2 change the top option to 2nd one (top one is easy mode everything are preset)then u make change with Tempo(i use 200) in 3rd line and Waitime (i use 100)in 4 line.that come much much faster.
xj911
01-22-2003, 05:36 PM
I hope your right, gonna go home and try it. If your lying, I'll give you such a pinch... :D
that worked in my phone(sanyo 5300).let me know it work or not
dannydos
01-22-2003, 06:22 PM
can anybody post some pmd files they've made that work good and fast
if u want i can e-mail to u or tell me where u want me upload to,i don't want post my server ip
xj911
01-22-2003, 06:30 PM
xj911@msn.com
I'll post em tonight.
SanyoMan
01-22-2003, 10:02 PM
good job ciu
the settings work fine, and the animated screen savers work like a charm.
i think we are now able to finally settle this thread once and for all =)
xj911
01-22-2003, 10:14 PM
WOOT!
dxfan
01-22-2003, 10:24 PM
big woot for sanyo not so big for a500 :( yea i was looking around that ini file but i dindt knwo what dto do good job eveyone
xj911
01-22-2003, 10:26 PM
sorry dx. keep trying....
*go sanyo* :D
bgalaviz
01-23-2003, 01:15 PM
What size are you using for your animations? I found a way to include your own file size but it ended up being too big. Also is there an emulator that I can use to look at the files before I send them to my phone? Thanks
xj911
01-23-2003, 01:31 PM
I resize aniimations with Jasc Animations shop, using 128 by 90, just big enough for my 4900.
bgalaviz
01-23-2003, 01:33 PM
So Jasc reads pmd files?
xj911
01-23-2003, 01:41 PM
No I resize the gif files first, then convert them.
bgalaviz
01-23-2003, 01:44 PM
On the screen where you view the animation, there is a setting of sizes in the top right corner. What size do you have there? C5001T ???
xj911
01-23-2003, 01:57 PM
120X90
dannydos
01-23-2003, 04:44 PM
can you guys please post a pmd file that works please!!!!!!!!!
xj911
01-23-2003, 05:58 PM
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/johnghazzagh/ryux.gcd
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/johnghazzagh/pbjx.gcd
kp3al
01-24-2003, 11:18 AM
Hi there,
I tried to download the files and I always get download error.
Why is that?
xj911
01-24-2003, 01:49 PM
They only seem to work with Sanyo phones right now. Sorry, I'm investigating the problem.
Soybeans
01-26-2003, 04:34 PM
Changing the tempo and waittime to those numbers that CIU suggested didn't change the speed of the animation for me. Does it really change for anyone else? The speed seems the same no matter what I change the numbers to.......
SkippyX
01-27-2003, 09:05 AM
I have that same problem, I changed the tempo and weight settings to the ones CIU suggested, and any other combination I could think of and it didnt do anything differently with my picture.
i don't know how many frames in ur gif.try keep 6 to 8 frames in ur gif.if too many ,the program will cut off some frame and change setting too.my best setting is 6 frames in gif and set at 150 and 150 for tempo and waiting time.try it!!
also ,if the gif already made or download from somewhere u still can remove frames when u making PMD.i like to make my own gif for PMD,because u can make the right size for the phone and how it move.remember! PMD in ur phone will not come out as a gif u see in ur PC.it will be slower.just like the preset screensaver come with 5300 for standby(the weather one).i made a PMD with my car pic with 6 frame .i made 4 frames for zoon out from the car and 2 frames trun the light on .come out pretty good.
sprint4900
01-28-2003, 11:51 AM
can anyone try these out and let me know how they came out. they're the same but in different speeds....i tried it out on my phone (4900) and they turned out okay.
StickFight2 (http://home.socal.rr.com/professorx/Pcs/StickFight2.pmd)
StickFight3 (http://home.socal.rr.com/professorx/Pcs/StickFight3.pmd)
u can upload them using http://www.t1mmy.net/visionTool.html
visionTool supported PMD files? i think it is not.
sprint4900
01-28-2003, 02:24 PM
yes they do cuz thats how i send my files to my phone. just as long its not over 50k. i have tons more that im sending through that website (mainly testing speed).
xj911
01-28-2003, 02:25 PM
Yep looks like it works. Go t1mmy!
i am sorry .it do supported.and come out not bad
xj911
01-28-2003, 02:32 PM
Those stick figures worked, but the animation is still slow as crap.
yea.only for under 50k.i tried to post a 60k file .it don't let me.too bad
sprint4900
01-28-2003, 02:54 PM
yeah i guess 50kb is the max u can send over?!?!
well i finished up 2 more if yall wanna check it out. its streetfighter characters though.
Ryu (http://home.socal.rr.com/professorx/Pcs/Ryu1.pmd)
Akuma (http://home.socal.rr.com/professorx/Pcs/AkumaStance.pmd)
hit me up if u want some done if u think mine are okay? L8.......
[Edit]
here is another one i just finished of ken doing a uppercut....
Ken1 (http://home.socal.rr.com/professorx/Pcs/Ken1.pmd)
xj911
01-28-2003, 03:52 PM
The akuma one isn't bad, probably look better on a 5300 or A500.
That Ryu one is sweet. Thanks!
what tempo and waiting time setting for Ryu?it is nice.
u know what? few day ago i had made a ken PMD as ur picture.go check it out.
http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/ken9.pmd.gcd
i hope this link still work.if not let me know
sprint4900
01-28-2003, 05:00 PM
well im looking for some good gifs to convert so far i have these zangief gifs which are pretty tight for standby but i notice that when i set my standby for the anything it well go but then freeze up after a min. weird?!?! but oh well........
im not sure what the tempo and wait are but in step 2 i set it at:
10
10
1
im guessing thats what it is in step 2. i believe the lower the # the faster it goes. i redid the ken to 5/5/1 and all it i see is him finishing the uppercut. im also thinking it depends on how many frames there are too. but im sticking with 10/10/1 and i also resize it to 120x81 for my phone which also makes the file smaller cuz the with the orignal its HUGE. check this website out for resizing online free.
http://www.gifworks.com/
dannydos
01-28-2003, 05:01 PM
yup still works and looks great man!!!!!!!! post the matrix one please
if anyone like cars.check out this one http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/agc320-a1.pmd.gcd
.i got one in black car and much better than this one , but it is 60k can't upload it.let me if don't work.
dannydos
01-28-2003, 05:22 PM
that car one was nice..... i have the program to convert gif but can't figure out the damn thing can someboby make me a matrix screensaver and make it so that it takes up the whole screen. thanks
sprint4900
01-28-2003, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by dannydos
yup still works and looks great man!!!!!!!! post the matrix one please
if u can get me the matrix gif then i can post it. ive been looking for a gif file of the matrix thing and no luck.
CIU the ken9 file doesnt work
dannydos
01-28-2003, 05:28 PM
i found this one but i can get more
dannydos
01-28-2003, 05:28 PM
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dannydos
01-28-2003, 05:29 PM
....
i think it is hard to tell how to setup tempo and wait.better way to do is just keep trying to find out what setting good for how many frames(ex: 150 and 150 good for 6 frames).then post out here and save our time to find out.i don't know Sprint4900 's ken pmd was 12 frames or been cut off from program.if it was 12 frame that mean 10 and 10 good for 12 frame.Sprint4900 can u find out that setting and frame for ken pmd?
u mean the link broke?if yes.i just upload it again with diff name . i only test in 5300. http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/ken8.pmd.gcd
dannydos
01-28-2003, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by CIU
u mean the link broke?if yes.i just upload it again with diff name . i only test in 5300. http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/ken8.pmd.gcd
that link still works.
dannydos
01-28-2003, 05:46 PM
here are some more gif that i have.
dannydos sorry can't make full screen.but check this out.
http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/22222.pmd.gcd
dannydos
01-28-2003, 05:46 PM
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dannydos
01-28-2003, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by CIU
dannydos sorry can't make full screen.but check this out.
http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/22222.pmd.gcd
thanks alot!!!!
u welcome.one more here. http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/calvin.pmd.gcd
and this one last gif u posted
http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/itchyresize.pmd.gcd
lil21kev
01-28-2003, 10:25 PM
I have done everything you guys said and i keep getting a error 906 message i have a sany 4900
lil21kev
01-29-2003, 12:23 AM
ok now that i kinda know what im doing i keep getting a error 907 server error mssg how do i get around that?
SanyoMan
01-29-2003, 01:34 AM
the reason you get the 907 error is that you have the same filename for the gcd as in the cache of your phone.
rename your gcd file to something more distinctive and you should be fine.
Originally posted by lil21kev
ok now that i kinda know what im doing i keep getting a error 907 server error mssg how do i get around that?
064cobra
01-29-2003, 03:19 AM
Usually, the cache is a problem..
there might be another reason for that error.
Please answer the following questions?
how are you uploading the file?
what size is the file?
is there an exsisting file with the same name in your phone?
are you using your own server?
dang....I feel like a doctor...
-Cobra
sprint4900
01-29-2003, 09:07 AM
i think it is hard to tell how to setup tempo and wait.better way to do is just keep trying to find out what setting good for how many frames(ex: 150 and 150 good for 6 frames).then post out here and save our time to find out.i don't know Sprint4900 's ken pmd was 12 frames or been cut off from program.if it was 12 frame that mean 10 and 10 good for 12 frame.Sprint4900 can u find out that setting and frame for ken pmd?
the ken file i did was 17 frames but i had to delete 2 cuz at the end, the frames would be white. i also resize to get full screen for my phone. do u resize urs CIU?
Originally posted by sprint4900
the ken file i did was 17 frames but i had to delete 2 cuz at the end, the frames would be white. i also resize to get full screen for my phone. do u resize urs CIU?
i am sorry ,i was want ask u frames for StickFight not ken.can u find out that?
sprint4900
01-29-2003, 12:24 PM
its 13 frames
Originally posted by dannydos
....
http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/matrix10.pmd.gcd
this is matrix full screen for 5300 phone.i resize it
lil21kev
01-29-2003, 02:07 PM
ok the file size is 47kb im on a university server im up loading through 3gupload.com and i still get the error 907 mssg can someone please make a sanyo 4900 animations for dummies directions i sure do need it
sprint4900
01-29-2003, 02:17 PM
im making a guide as we speak so give me some time. hope it comes out okay......
also u can try uploading it on ur phone by using http://www.t1mmy.net/visionTool.html very easy to use.
xj911
01-29-2003, 02:26 PM
Shorten the file name, and make it unique. Like turdjoe.pmd or something. I usually get those errors with long filenames.
likquid
01-29-2003, 07:58 PM
Alright,. i made a pmd from a .gif file. The first frame is fine, but all the frames after it have a loss in picture. There are black marks all over the following frames. anyone else have this problem?
xj911
01-29-2003, 08:50 PM
Yeah, I think that happens if you have too many colors within the animation. Post the gif and let us check it out.
lil21kev
01-29-2003, 08:56 PM
I keep getting that darn 907 error and the vision tool on this site wont even send me the file...what format should it be in for this site to send it to my phone? i need serious help
lil21kev
01-29-2003, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by lil21kev
I keep getting that darn 907 error and the vision tool on this site wont even send me the file...what format should it be in for this site to send it to my phone? i need serious help
its a server error whatever that means
xj911
01-29-2003, 09:06 PM
download this file
Ryu (http://pages.sbcglobal.net/johnghazzagh/ryux.pmd)
go to this site: http://www.t1mmy.net/visionTool.html
then upload that file you downloaded to your phone from that site.
lil21kev
01-29-2003, 09:57 PM
now im getting error 904 the sixe mismatch thing...on that program the jap one i cant find the right size which one is it? on my pc some of the #'s get cut off i have a sanyo 4900 i think im so close but now i just need the right sizei hear its 128/90 but that isnt an option i can find but like i said some of the #'s are cut off please help....please ....and i have the ryu thing it works im trying to put a matrix thing on my phone i think i just need to solve this size mismatch thing gimmie the japanese characters or how far down it is on the menu incase its one of the resizing options that are cut off
sprint4900
01-29-2003, 10:44 PM
i dont know much about errors. usually if i do i would clear the cache or whatever it's called by turning off my phone and removing the battery for about 1-3min. i have the matrix but the file is at work. CIU made one did u try that?
Staxx
01-30-2003, 11:22 AM
I've tried all the hints in this thread. I have successfully converted a couple of animated gifs to PMD and uploaded them to my phone (4900). But when I view them my phone only displays the first frame. It doesn't matter what tempo or wait settings I use, it sticks on the first frame.
Staxx
01-30-2003, 11:24 AM
here are a couple of gifs I'm trying to get on my phone:
http://www.totallymod.com/files/phone.gif
http://www.totallymod.com/files/calvin2.gif
rpmdigital
01-30-2003, 12:33 PM
I had a little time in between jobs today... So, I started poking around some of the other features of the app to see what else I could do with it... It's not much, yet... But I think I have the entire preference menu down... Only two tabs documented so far... And I got the in-app editor figures out too...
http://www.rpmdigital.net/ktai.html
And I am getting some seriously FAST framrates with these gifs Im putting on my phone, I'd say the only problem is the non-seamless looping, and apparently no way to remove or fill that blank frame. Oh, and my animations freeze up at 30 seconds... Even with sleep mode 'off'...
rpmdigital
01-30-2003, 01:45 PM
Nothing to do about the blank frame yet... That I'm aware of anyhow... I thought I had it licked... I assembled the pmd from png files that I made using the individual gif frames. I though it was gone... But it wasn't... I can't get a continuous loop...
http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/fin1.pmd.gcd 127/75/1
http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/fin.pmd.gcd 127/45/1
http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/caldnc.pmd.gcd (i forget...)
sprint4900
01-30-2003, 02:54 PM
those are some nice conversions......the calvin is off though, but thats not ur fault. even when i try to resize it comes out bad. the background is in different color and when i change the color the picture is all disorted. my avatar is what i have on my phone for standby and i have it at the speed its going. i too have that lock up with my standby picture. only when i put it on the charger it works fine and doesnt lock up. odd? as for the blank frame u can delete it.
xj911
01-30-2003, 03:30 PM
calvin works perfect for a standby screensaver on a 4900.
rpmdigital
01-30-2003, 03:34 PM
You can delete the blank frame, you are correct... But for some reason, it completely wipes the display after the loop, causing solid white to show for a second. I've tried several things to get this out...including adding a png to the end of the gif frames, identical to the first... no dice, still flashes white...im still poking around in the preferences...perhaps there is a seamless radio button I'm missing L)
xj911
01-30-2003, 05:22 PM
Still doesn't look too bad. I guess if I was picky... LOL
Staxx
01-30-2003, 05:31 PM
Thanks for converting the dancing Calvin gif, BTW. It does make a great standby screensaver.
However, I seem to have two standby settings on my 4900. Under Settings/ Display/ Animations, I can set the standby animation to the dancing Calvin PMD. But under Settings/ Display/ Standby Display, I can choose among Screen Saver, Calendar, Time (Large), World Clock, and Off. If I select Screen Saver, a new drop down appears and I can only pick still pictures. What's up with that? Perhaps xj911 knows what I'm dong wrong? Hmm?
xj911
01-30-2003, 05:39 PM
I think you mean standby>display>standbydisplay then you won't be able to use a .pmd file animations can only be used for 3 things:
standby, outgoing calls, and service search. sorry, would be nice
Staxx
01-30-2003, 06:05 PM
I figured it out. It's funny, but the largest amount of time sleep can be set for is 30 sec. But I had standby set for 60 sec. I set standby to 5 sec. and saw the dancing Calvin animation. Pretty cool.
This may not be the forum for this. I'm getting way off topic. But does anyone using the 4900 turn sleep off? Does the battery last long with sleep off?
congogrey
01-31-2003, 08:43 AM
Do these animations work for the LG 5350 and A500? I am at work so i do not have a chance to download the images and try.
xj911
01-31-2003, 08:44 AM
I'm not so sure on the 5350, but the A500 I'm sure it doesn't.
sprint4900
01-31-2003, 09:56 AM
hey guys, well i finally finished a draft of the guide i was making for the program. let me know if it came out okay or if i should edit/add anything? this is only a draft:
Guide (http://www.geocities.com/dieselboy_563/ConvertingGiftoPmdfile.htm)
xj911
01-31-2003, 10:56 AM
Hey good job, now just to solve that pesky frame rate problem.
sprint4900
01-31-2003, 11:02 AM
i know.... i guess it depends on the # of frames that are in the gif. thats why u have to play around with it. :(
xj911
01-31-2003, 11:27 AM
I tried to convert the matrix gif but I keep getting a blank frame in between the others. Anyone have any luck with this?
rpmdigital
01-31-2003, 12:49 PM
I cant believe it....I type a long post, and submit the wrong file type, poof!! Post gone...
Needless to say...
4900 standby resoloution = 120x96
The 120x81 is for the odd Sprint definition of screen saver, which is the 'still' image you can display.
You could add (to the guide) that the box you uncheck to view the files is actually where you can add text to the frame you select once the box is unchecked....
My previous post was MUCH more detailed, but I am out of time....
To see how much fun I am having, d/l this and rename it to a .pmd
I would have posted it on my own site, but again I am out of time... And keep in mind this is big and clunky 'cause it's a test... L)
Again... This is NOT a zip... just rename it .pmd
Enjoy. (And It'll get better...)
xj911
01-31-2003, 03:20 PM
here's one of the matrix that I've been working on
http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/matrix$x$.pmd.gcd
It actually doesn't have the blank white screen like the brighter one. I can't seem to get that one to work!
sprint4900
01-31-2003, 03:35 PM
well maybe we can work together on this guide rpmdigital? anymore input to add?
rpmdigital
01-31-2003, 03:40 PM
http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/cbs9.pmd.gcd
Not perfect... but getting better...
Sure any help I can provide... I'm looking at some options in the tools menu. I think some of them may affect the way the .pmd is saved.
xj911
01-31-2003, 03:42 PM
Hey 4900 or rpm, can you solve the blank white screen issue on the matrix gif? I can't seem to fix it? here's the gif again:
rpmdigital
01-31-2003, 03:54 PM
http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/cbs10.pmd.gcd
Added txt...still needs work
rpmdigital
01-31-2003, 04:10 PM
http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/cbs11.pmd.gcd
Sorry xj911... I got the blank too. It's not a frame, I checked each one, it's the loop. It's not seamless, it refreshes the handset and then replays the .pmd
Looking for a fix now... I mean, SprintPCS's cmx files don't blank, right?
darkman
02-03-2003, 01:00 AM
Just wandering if you've found that fix yet rpmdigital???
rpmdigital
02-03-2003, 01:37 PM
sadly not... I've tried everything... I cannot make it loop seamless... I've even tried loading the .gif in Fireworks and adjusting the delay in the gif animation itself. (you can specify a frame delay rate for each frame in most .gif animation apps) With no avail... Fear not... I am a graphic design wizard! And I got a few more tricks up my sleeve! (and rather large sleeves...)
Best yet... I got $500 and a contract with Qualcomm... hehehe... j/k... Drat you Faith-Inc...
xj911
02-03-2003, 02:02 PM
I made this sweet venom animation. Works best with the 4900 Check it:
http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/venom9436.pmd.gcd
here's a gambit one
http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/gambit9436.pmd.gcd
darkman
02-03-2003, 07:26 PM
Those animations are sorta slow and theres a blank white screen issue but still looks pretty sweet xj911!!! Can you make any for the sanyo 5300??? How and/or what tools are you using to make them???
rpmdigital
02-04-2003, 01:12 AM
this is interesting... good frame rates... got the blank minimized as much as i could... now for the interesting bit, the 30 freeze up happens RIGHT ON the mid loop white screen... does this mean it IS a frame, we just can't access it?
http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/100bot20.pmd.gcd
sprint4900
02-04-2003, 02:08 PM
okay here are some changes i added to the Guide (http://www.geocities.com/dieselboy_563/ConvertingGiftoPmdfile.htm)
do u mind if i add ur link rpmdigital into the guide to show ppl what some of things are in the program is all about?
dadojbe
02-04-2003, 04:43 PM
I'm sure many of you have seen this, but just in case, it says some interesting things about creating CMX files:
http://www.cdmatech.com/solutions/pdf/cmx_faq.pdf
rpmdigital
02-05-2003, 04:04 AM
do u mind if i add ur link rpmdigital into the guide to show ppl what some of things are in the program is all about? [/B]
sure no problem.... were I not so busy , I would have that done :)
Anyone take a good hard look at the last tab...
Can our Japanese friend(s) possibly take a second look at that one? It seems the drop down menu is similar to the background matte if the image is smaller than the screen, with a ## dialogue and another drop down with 3 choices...
could be nothing....could be something!
DeusRex
02-05-2003, 02:09 PM
Um...anyone here take a look at the PMD format? Looks pretty easy to crack...just a bunch of PNGs lined up with a time delay in between...I'll work on manually making the matrix one, see if I can get rid of the white screen by not using the jap prog.
::edit::
Did I hear that the jap prog could convert MIDI to PMD also? Can someone post a PMD with a MIDI in it? I could prolly figure out how to get both sound and image in one...
::edit again::
Crackin is going pretty good...if someone could post a very short (2 or 3 frame) PMD and include all the numbers (tempo etc) I can find where those are set in the file and make a new PMD maker...
DeusRex
02-05-2003, 03:47 PM
Alright, I think I got a working Matrix PMD...although I have no idea whether or not its going to work. I took apart another PMD file, left what I didnt know in and replaces all the embedded PNG files with Matrix files.
Actually, I made a program to do this for me...if it works and i can figure out some of the other unknown values (which will be kinda hard cuz I have no way to test) I will post it here for ya'll to use.
So...will somebody be of assistance and tell me if this works:
http://crashed.darktech.org/mat.pmd
xj911
02-05-2003, 03:57 PM
Holy crap that's a big file, I'll try it, but it will be a second. I've gotta maket the gcd from scratch and then upload it to my server.
dadojbe
02-05-2003, 04:48 PM
On my A500, this matrix pmd file: the sound seems to work, but the animation does not load.
dannydos
02-05-2003, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by DeusRex
Alright, I think I got a working Matrix PMD...although I have no idea whether or not its going to work. I took apart another PMD file, left what I didnt know in and replaces all the embedded PNG files with Matrix files.
Actually, I made a program to do this for me...if it works and i can figure out some of the other unknown values (which will be kinda hard cuz I have no way to test) I will post it here for ya'll to use.
So...will somebody be of assistance and tell me if this works:
http://crashed.darktech.org/mat.pmd
that file didn't work
sprint4900
02-06-2003, 11:53 AM
what format are the animated tones in?
i found a couple of pmd files which are music and i added a png file to it in the jap program but everytime i try to upload it i get error 907.
*edit* anyone wanna try this file for me:
http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/Pucca.pmd.gcd
tehman
02-06-2003, 07:10 PM
Are you guys familiar with 3gupload.com? Works really nice for uploading files to your phone and it's FREE. I've been reading this thread for the last hour or so and futzing with my phone (a 4900) and it's been very informative and I'm anxiously awaiting a resolution to the blank frame issue. Also very interested in seeing a Matrix PMD.
SanyoMan
02-08-2003, 10:46 PM
i have hellped in devoloping how to convert animated .gif and uploading them to wireless phones for the sanyo.
however, i'd like to get feedback if it is possible to download and save them as a screen saver for the the samsung a500?
xj911
02-10-2003, 12:12 AM
Okay another thing about creating these files....the gifs have to be 15 colors or less or the pmd has black spotting all over it.
blondie
02-11-2003, 07:39 PM
I followed sprint4900's tutorial and easily converted an animated gif to a pmd file. Downloaded to my 5300 and it worked first time. Thanks sprint4900
sprint4900
02-23-2003, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by blondie
I followed sprint4900's tutorial and easily converted an animated gif to a pmd file. Downloaded to my 5300 and it worked first time. Thanks sprint4900
glad it worked out good for you.
*bump*
j5350
02-23-2003, 10:17 PM
where can I get a program(hopefully free) that will let me make animated gifs that I can use for screensavers. I have the jap program already, but the gifs that I find online come out w/ the black dots.
TIA.
xj911
02-23-2003, 10:21 PM
you can contact faith west incorporated and Sprint and you can purchase the license (with sprint's permission of course) for only $500.00
to lose the black dots, find a gif editing program such as Jasc Animation shop and reduce the amount of colors to 15 colors. this will correct the problem.
brianlee
02-27-2003, 03:38 PM
I hope people won't mind me posting the same message I used in different forums. I wanted to share what I've found out...
Anyone succeed in creating an animated wallpaper for the Samsung A500? Does anyone have Faith-Inc's proprietary software? I've tried some animations made for the Sanyo phones on my A500 but so far I only had success in having the animations run as a Ringer (when you get a call) and does not have any sound. Would it save to Wallpapers if you use the correct Content-Type in the General Content Descriptor (GCD) file?
I'm trying to create a screensaver similar to handtap.com's example where it has a sleeping Garfield (animated) as the wallpaper, and a startled Garfield (animated) with sound as the Ringer.
I've been doing research and I found out that all Korean headsets use NeoMtel's (http://www.neomtel.com) SIS (Simple Image Service) to run animation. Qualcomm has also recently integrated SIS along with CMX. See Press Room Report (http://www.cdmatech.com/press/partnerreleases/2001/010225neomtl.html). They say that the version of the CMX software that includes NeoMtel's animation solution is expected to begin shipping in the second calendar quarter of 2001. The Qualcomm chipset inside the A500 is the MSM5100 (http://www.cdmatech.com/solutions/products/msm5100.html). I am inferring that the Samsung A500 already includes this SIS standard (being that it's a Korean headset with one of the later Qualcomm chipset inside). Faith-Inc. specializes more with polyphony. I haven't used Faith-Inc.'s software yet but I'm hunting around for the SIS tool. I've found a crude SIS tool (http://pm1.nate.com/pmat/web/sis1_install.exe) that animates B&W .bmp images but I am looking for one that does color. Here are the instructions (http://pm1.nate.com/cgi-bin/smx_util2.xcg?FN=TOP_HOME&DNS=NATE) on how to use it (in Korean btw). I am wondering if the webmaster of this forum could open up a MIME for me to test SIS files and send them to my phone.
Here's some more interesting information about the SIS technology (http://www.sisacademy.com/main.php3?part=technology). This may explain why the Samsung A500s have a tough time decoding .PNG and .GIF animations. SIS is a compression technique that creates unique and small file sizes.
Hopefully in the end, I'll be able to create phone animations like the ones shown here (http://pm1.nate.com/cgi-bin/smx_util2.xcg?FN=TOP_HOME&DNS=NATE).
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Forget Faith-West... If we're able to get our hands on the tools the Koreans use to create their animation, wouldn't it work on our phones also? The basic CMX Authoring Studio (one that does only sounds) is free but the other version (the one that also does animation) costs $500. I've looked at Faith's site and it does not show that they've created the technology for the animation so I'm pretty sure that Faith's Animation Suite uses NeoMtel's SIS...
CEGiven
02-27-2003, 05:12 PM
I can answer one of your questions: Don't change the CONTENT-TYPE entry of the GCD. It must always match the file type, and you can't change it to force the file into a different folder. Instead, use the CONTENT-FOLDER entry to specify a folder name (existing or new).
brianlee
02-28-2003, 03:17 AM
Really? It wouldn't work if it was Content-Type: image/x-pmd? Is there any possible way to get an animated wallpaper?
cyCLONEZ
02-28-2003, 10:04 PM
where is the programm?
cat_bert
05-06-2003, 10:34 AM
try using CMX Studio. All you do is sandwich 2 or more pictures together. Pretty basic.
NotoriousHaZ
05-20-2003, 03:04 PM
please, anyone, ive read this entire thread and i dont get how to increase the frame rate with the Ktapic program, please anyone
Absolut_Brian
05-26-2003, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by cat_bert
try using CMX Studio. All you do is sandwich 2 or more pictures together. Pretty basic.
...which can be downloaded from 3gupload.com
sfenton311
09-27-2003, 11:11 PM
Link for the program is dead...any help?
dannydos
09-28-2003, 02:04 PM
why is it when you preview a .pmd file on your phone it doesn't stop playing until you hit a button .........but when you assign a .pmd file it only plays for a little while...
LouieLouieohoh
12-05-2003, 06:33 PM
yo, the latest version of KTAIPIC is at
http://www1.odn.ne.jp/ysk/ktaipic.html
... yes it's all in Japanese version 1.7, released 11/14/2003 ...
go here (http://www.systranbox.com/systran/box) and paste in the link above into the web page translation (don't forget to swith the selection "Japanese to English"). Read till your hearts content. I have version 1.4 and 1.7. It appears the speed controls are not in version 1.7 ... hmmm.
LouieLouieohoh
12-05-2003, 06:49 PM
Yikes ... I meant 1.04 and 1.07 .. sorry.
LouieLouieohoh
12-05-2003, 07:09 PM
I thought there may be a few people wanting an English version of the "help" file (sorry, only in version 1.04). It's somewhat translated ... and somewhat not ... but, better than nothing.
Just rename the KTAIPIC.CHM file something else then rename the attached file from a .txt to KTAIPIC.CHM ... and your help file is in english for ya.
peterbanks
12-15-2003, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by dannydos
why is it when you preview a .pmd file on your phone it doesn't stop playing until you hit a button .........but when you assign a .pmd file it only plays for a little while...
Same phone, same problem. Any fixes for this? I created the .pmd with CMX studio. Thanks
kush_14
02-10-2004, 04:26 PM
If i sent one of you a .gif file would you be able to convert it to a pmd format that would work on my phone? Because the ones i have dont work but the Ryux one works
ThePCSRep
08-11-2004, 09:21 PM
If somone knows how will you convert this image to pmd or cmx format for me
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16341&stc=1
foxfire2000
08-15-2004, 09:24 PM
I've read through this whole post and still don't understand how to upload an animation file named xxx.pmd through this web site. Can someone give some assistance please?
Rose4uKY
08-25-2004, 12:08 PM
I also am clueless on making the gif files into pmd. Can someone convert these for me. Would really appreciate it. Rose
twistedpac79
08-25-2004, 02:00 PM
Hey, just use CMX STUDIO to make Animated Screensavers!
http://www.faithwestinc.com/
Use Ulead GIF Animator to make the GIF into Frames
Then add the Frames to CMX STUDIO
http://www.ulead.com/ga/runme.htm
Its very easy to do!
I make them all the time :hee:
If you need help email me at: twistedpac79@comcast.net
Sparda
09-26-2004, 06:35 PM
Here i made my own gifhttp://www.freewebs.com/esture_net/death.GIF
poorlyduck
09-26-2004, 10:54 PM
I made sprintusersrix :hee:
DcDave63
10-27-2004, 12:44 PM
How do I convert a animated gif to a cmx or pmd?
kttii
11-02-2004, 02:16 AM
After about a week of playing with CMX Studio (Free version) and not being able to get an animated PMD downloaded to my phone, I finally downloaded KTAIPIC.
I must say, even though it was in Japanese and I don't know any other languages, it was so much esier to use than CMX Studio :P I figured it out in just a couple hours!
Since it was so simple I decided to write a simple guide (http://members.cox.net/kttii/phone/ktaipichelp.zip) for it (which took longer than making a PMD file!)
Enjoy! (http://members.cox.net/kttii/phone/ktaipichelp.zip)
I'd like to thank those who posted help... everything from creating gcd files to the english translation of KTAIPIC! (which I included in the zip (http://members.cox.net/kttii/phone/ktaipichelp.zip))
ken_vs_ryu
11-12-2004, 07:52 AM
how big can the filesize be?
DcDave63
11-12-2004, 09:31 AM
I have yet been able to find a single Animated file that will download and work on my 4050. Does anyone have any for their 4050 that I can try?
Binary
11-24-2004, 10:10 AM
i figured out how to use the ktpic thing...but is there anyway possible to change the speed of it? cuz for some reason the speed on all that i try are slow...
SiN13
11-24-2004, 10:28 AM
i figured out how to use the ktpic thing...but is there anyway possible to change the speed of it? cuz for some reason the speed on all that i try are slow...
Is this KTAIPIC program still available for download somewhere?
vicious
01-07-2005, 09:46 AM
Is this KTAIPIC program still available for download somewhere?
Yes. Have a look here:
http://www.craiggiven.com/ktpic.htm
Scroll down the page and you will see the links ;-)
MoonDog
01-07-2005, 10:13 AM
Direct link.
http://my.vector.co.jp/servlet/System.FileDownload/download/http/0/202308/pack/win95/net/tel/mobile/ktpic116.zip
vicious
01-07-2005, 06:46 PM
i found out how to fix the probalem.don't make change Tempo and WaitTime in ini file.when u making the pmd in step 2 change the top option to 2nd one (top one is easy mode everything are preset)then u make change with Tempo(i use 200) in 3rd line and Waitime (i use 100)in 4 line.that come much much faster.
Well, I can confirm that this works on the Sanyo RL-4920 phone. It greatly increases speed. We (Sanyo users) must tweak these settings to see how fast can we make the animation. :) I will post a link with something I did soon.
vicious
01-07-2005, 07:09 PM
http://www.t1mmy.net/upload/Mac_OS_X_Starting.pmd.gcd
As others have noticed, the white blank screen appears first. Still looking for a way to stop that behaviour. Thanks.
vicious
01-08-2005, 11:44 PM
as for the blank frame u can delete it.
How? Is there a way to remove that frame?
LouieLouieohoh
02-03-2005, 08:09 PM
How? Is there a way to remove that frame?
Vicious ... after you load the gif ... when you right mouse click each seperate file you get a preview of that frame ... the last one is always blank ... I think it's a bug that's been in the program all along ... just delete it. Are you using the English version from the other post??? Kylo created an English version KTPIC but should be KTAIPIC (http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58856&highlight=KTPIC) .. I also posted an English help file as well ... read the post. Any questions?? Feel free to ask ... and Enjoy. :woohoo:
vicious
02-04-2005, 04:44 AM
Vicious ... after you load the gif ... when you right mouse click each seperate file you get a preview of that frame ... the last one is always blank ... I think it's a bug that's been in the program all along ... just delete it. Are you using the English version from the other post??? Kylo created an English version KTPIC but should be KTAIPIC (http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58856&highlight=KTPIC) .. I also posted an English help file as well ... read the post. Any questions?? Feel free to ask ... and Enjoy. :woohoo:
Thanks. I'll test that right away.
vicious
02-04-2005, 10:53 AM
Vicious ... after you load the gif ... when you right mouse click each seperate file you get a preview of that frame ... the last one is always blank ... I think it's a bug that's been in the program all along ... just delete it. Are you using the English version from the other post??? Kylo created an English version KTPIC but should be KTAIPIC (http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58856&highlight=KTPIC) .. I also posted an English help file as well ... read the post. Any questions?? Feel free to ask ... and Enjoy. :woohoo:
I don't see any blank frame on the previews. I'm using the English 1.18 version. And what exactly "Tempo" and "Wait time" and "wait number" does?
flipn0tic
02-04-2005, 11:02 AM
I don't see any blank frame on the previews. I'm using the English 1.18 version. And what exactly "Tempo" and "Wait time" and "wait number" does?
I tinkered with those settings in every way possible and noticed no difference in speed or anything at all. :eyebrow:
Admittedly, I spent more time messing with changing the language of the program than I have actually using it. I just sat down and skimmed through the Japanese help file and messed with some of the settings... I think what you need to adjust is the "Wait number" .. In retrospect (now that I better understand the purpose of it) I should find some better descriptive word for it.. You probably want to have it set to "1" because it marks how long it takes for the animation to start running.. then the other two you want to adjust are tempo and wait time... not quite sure how they TECHNICALLY affect the rate, but higher tempo = faster, and lower wait time = faster... the original program had the "display interval" disabled, but I enabled it so you get an idea of how long each frame lasts.. Hopefully that vague information can be of some help?
LouieLouieohoh
02-04-2005, 07:55 PM
I don't see any blank frame on the previews. I'm using the English 1.18 version. And what exactly "Tempo" and "Wait time" and "wait number" does?
If you read some posts by "CIU" early in this thread, He talks about if you have a small amount of frames (4-6 frames) 10/10/1 (Tempo/Wait time/ Wait number)works well ... but more frames means you should use a higher number for Tempo and Wait time and the leave the wait number alone ... just need to tinker a little and see if it works. The confusing thing is that the "review" in the program doesn't change speed ... but the animation changes speed on your phone ... Now this was sometime ago and they were using older ohones (like the 4900, I think). Anyone volunteering to do a design of experiments? I am willing to make a bunch of different versions for experimenting ... but alas, my phone cannot read pmd's :(
vicious
02-06-2005, 12:30 PM
If you read some posts by "CIU" early in this thread, He talks about if you have a small amount of frames (4-6 frames) 10/10/1 (Tempo/Wait time/ Wait number)works well ... but more frames means you should use a higher number for Tempo and Wait time and the leave the wait number alone ... just need to tinker a little and see if it works. The confusing thing is that the "review" in the program doesn't change speed ... but the animation changes speed on your phone ... Now this was sometime ago and they were using older ohones (like the 4900, I think). Anyone volunteering to do a design of experiments? I am willing to make a bunch of different versions for experimenting ... but alas, my phone cannot read pmd's :(
Mine does read .pmd
Dread Fox
02-27-2005, 05:45 AM
Mine does read .pmd
Yeah, direct links to pmd files then just uploading those woks great. Now if only there were more pmd files out there that were easy to find.
vicious
02-28-2005, 09:15 AM
You are quite right man. I have ktpic but the damn pmd still displays the blank frame each time it loops. there must be a way that they dont do that.
Raptor22
02-28-2005, 09:33 AM
does anyone knows how to create animated screensavers for the 7400 similar to the preloaded SS?
LouieLouieohoh
02-28-2005, 05:10 PM
You are quite right man. I have ktpic but the damn pmd still displays the blank frame each time it loops. there must be a way that they dont do that.
Vicious, I remember seeing where somebody ... a long time ago, had figured that out ... but I can't for the life of me remember where? in this forum or another, I have seen it.
XMorbius
03-01-2005, 02:40 PM
Hey everyone, I just read through a large part of this thread, and I've followed all the directions. I have a question though, so I registered and am posting :hee: I can get the file to my phone, a Sanyo PM-8200, but once its on there, animated, I cant set it as a screen saver. Only for standby. Is it possible to have an animated screen saver on a PM8200?
I attached the pmd file. Its a small slideshow of MGS3 characters ;)
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