Opera Mini browser for all J2ME mobile phones!

[Galley]

source: http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2005/08/10/

Have WAP but want WEB? Introducing Opera Mini™ for mobile phones
Oslo, Norway - August 10, 2005

Opera Software, world leader in cross-platform browser technologies, today introduced Opera Mini™, a J2ME (Java 2 Mobile Edition) Web browser for virtually all mobile phones. Opera Mini™ enables Web access on more than 700 million low- and mid-tier Java-capable phones around the world, finally bringing mobile Internet into the mainstream.

Opera Mini™ is a fast and easy alternative to Opera's mobile browser, allowing users to access the Web on mobile phones that would normally be incapable of running a Web browser. This includes the vast majority of today's WAP-enabled phones. Instead of requiring the phone to process Web pages, it uses a remote server to pre-process the page before sending it to the phone.

"Mobile Web surfing has until now been limited to more advanced phones that are capable of running a browser," says Jon S. von Tetzchner, CEO, Opera Software. "With Opera Mini™, the phone only has to run a small Java-client and the rest is taken care of by the remotely located Opera Mini server. With Opera Mini™ you don't have to have an advanced phone to surf the Web, which means that most people can use it with their existing phones."

Installing Opera Mini™ is as easy as installing a ringtone. Users simply send an SMS or visit a link through their WAP browser to receive it, and they are online in an instant.

Because Opera Mini™ enables Web access on low- and mid-tier phones, operators can now dramatically increase the average revenue per user (ARPU) across their entire customer base by stimulating the usage of compelling mobile Web services. Opera offers full customization of Opera Mini™ to companies, for example operators, broadcasters, mobile content providers and the Internet industry, that would like to include their own version of Opera Mini™ as part of their mobile content offerings.

The first company to take advantage of Opera Mini™ is Norway's leading commercial television station, TV2. It has bundled Opera Mini™ with its mobile services in Norway to offer its viewers a complete mobile content package that includes a branded and advanced Web browser.

"Finally we see how we can generate revenue from real mobile browsing," says Morten Holst, VP Strategy, TV2 Interactive. "By introducing TV2's portal through Opera Mini™ we have combined the best of mobile services with mobile Web access."
Availability

Opera Mini™ is available to end-users through operators and companies that choose to include it in their offerings to their customers. It is currently available as a pilot project through TV2 in Norway, with wider availability to be announced.
About Opera Software ASA

Opera Software ASA is an industry leader in the development of Web browser technology, targeting the desktop, smartphone, PDA, home media and vertical markets. Partners include companies such as IBM, Nokia, Sony, Motorola, Adobe, Macromedia, Symbian, Canal+ Technologies, Sony Ericsson, Kyocera, Sharp, Motorola Metroworks, MontaVista Software, BenQ, Sendo and AMD. The Opera browser has received international recognition from users, industry experts and media for being faster, smaller and more standards-compliant than other browsers.

Opera's browser technology is cross-platform and modular, and currently available on the following operating systems: Windows, Linux, Mac OS, Symbian OS, Windows Mobile, BREW, QNX, TRON, FreeBSD, Solaris and Mediahighway.

Opera Software ASA is headquartered in Oslo, Norway, with development centers in Linkoping and Gothenburg, Sweden. The company is listed on the Oslo Stock Exchange under the ticker symbol OPERA. Learn more about Opera at www.opera.com.

[Madisn]

As Picked up by AP...

Opera Announces Browser for Mobile Phones

Aug 10, 9:09 AM (ET)

OSLO, Norway (AP) - Opera Software ASA on Wednesday announced a new version of its Internet browser that allows Web surfing from almost any mobile phone, even inexpensive ones with little built-in memory.

Accessing the Internet has largely been restricted to higher-end mobile phones with the memory capacity to run a browser.

The Oslo-based company said its new Opera Mini browser can allow surfing from 700 million low-to-medium cost phones without space for a traditional browser.

Opera said the system only requires the phone to have a small Java program because instead of the phone itself processing a Web-page, a remote server preprocesses the page before sending it to the phone.

"With Opera Mini you don't have to have an advanced phone to surf the Web, which means that most people can use it with their existing phones," said Opera co-founder and chief executive Jon S. von Tetzchner.

Opera Mini is currently a pilot project, with the software offered through the Norwegian commercial television network TV-2, but broader distribution is also planned, a news release said.

TV-2 bundled Opera Mini into its Norwegian mobile phone services to offer viewers a complete content package that includes the browser, the statement said.

"Finally, we see how we can generate revenue from real mobile browsing," said Morten Holst, a vice president for TV2 Interactive. "By introducing TV2's portal through Opera Mini, we have combined ... mobile services with mobile Web access."

Opera's shares rose more than 7 percent to 15.10 kroner ($2.37) on the Oslo stock exchange following the announcement.

Opera's browser has won praise as being fast and compact, and has been gaining ground in mobile phones and personal digital assistants.

The company, which employs about 200 people, was founded in 1995 by two former developers for the Norwegian telecommunications group Telenor as an offshoot of a company project.

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[boomer13]

So how can we get it? :irked:

[RudeRam]

So how can we get it? :irked:


Here is what I found on Operas web site:

Installing Opera Mini

Opera Mini is offered to operators and mobile content providers worldwide, and not as a download from opera.com.

Opera Mini is available in Norway through TV2, and may be downloaded for free by sending an SMS with "Opera" to 1984. This will only work in Norway.

You should be sent a text message in response (this may take up to one hour). Some phones will also receive a bookmark. Open the bookmark, and if your phone is able to run Opera Mini, you should be offered a link to download it.

If your phone does not support bookmarks you can use the link provided in the text message. Either click the link, or open the address in your phone's Internet browser (WAP).

Follow the instructions to download and install Opera Mini. You will be sent a configuration message that should set up your phone to connect to the Internet.

Once Opera Mini is installed, you may be offered the option to open it. If you are not offered this option, you will need to locate it using your phone's menu system.

Your phone may display a message telling you to ensure you have set up an Internet connection or GPRS access point before using Opera Mini. If you have not yet set up a connection, you should do so now.

Copyright © 2005 Opera Software ASA

[Clash]

yarg....

[boomer13]

Yeah, I read that part as well. I was hoping it had been leaked over here somehow.

[Perplexer]

No luck yet getting it on my MM-7400.
I've tried pointing the phone to http://mini.opera.com/tv2/ and http://wap.opera.com/ but I can only get so far. If I can get ahold of the .jad and .jar files, I'll let y'all know!

[e-dub]

http://www.dsci4.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif

eric b

[Laughing Man]

Glad to see my favorite web browser is now usable from more cell phones. Maybe it'll spread Opera for the PC even more. ^_^

[Invader J]

http://davidpye.com/wap/opera.jad

Runs on my A800, remember to change the language to English.

And on my A800 it's buggy. I opened one site (macnn.com) when I first installed it. But it wont go anywhere else other than it's built-in homepage - when I try to go to any other URL via a link or direct entry, it just keeps bringing me back to the first URL I entered (in my case, macnn.com). Boooooo...

[hookedonitunes]

http://davidpye.com/wap/opera.jad

Runs on my A800, remember to change the language to English.

And on my A800 it's buggy. I opened one site (macnn.com) when I first installed it. But it wont go anywhere else other than it's built-in homepage - when I try to go to any other URL via a link or direct entry, it just keeps bringing me back to the first URL I entered (in my case, macnn.com). Boooooo...
Keep getting an install error on my 4920...

[freeza]

does it work on the lg 535?

[IguanaLvr]

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Yeah. Attribute Mismatch Here.

[phale]

Get it here
Opera Mini (http://felipecn.innereyes.com/2005/08/download-opera-mini/)

MyOpera Forums (http://my.opera.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=111)

I have both jad and jar files for the hi and low versions,but can't upload them here

[mrvid]

I also keep getting error on my 5600!

[boomer13]

Which file do we use, the .jar or .jad, and how do we put in on our phones?

[Naldecon]

Works great on A700. I just need to figure out how to change the start page.

[Merlyn_3D]

Wow...looks awesome on a qvga screen, but I'm having the same problem where it only goes to one page, the first one I visited.

[Invader J]

Works great on A700. I just need to figure out how to change the start page.

Are you able to load any page? I can still only load the very first page I entered, and its built-in start page... =( (on my A800)

[Naldecon]

I can't load any other pages besides the first page I visited which is MSN. It looks like it cached the MSN front page and clicking on any links does no action but refreshes the current page.

[Invader J]

Erf, thats what I get too. Bummer.

[Naldecon]

You broke it!

[Merlyn_3D]

Erf, thats what I get too. Bummer.

Mine does the same but with the SU homepage which is the one I loaded first.

[Naldecon]

Also, I am getting the following error "An unexpected error occured." when using the lo-fi version.

[TeeBlack]

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will this opera browser work with my sanyo vm4500/5500?

[phale]

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will this opera browser work with my sanyo vm4500/5500?

It should,try and let us know.

[simpsonsadict]

i found the option to change language but it doesnt actually change the language when i click on english, i wonder if im doing something wrong

[Invader J]

You have to click the right softbutton after that (it's the 'save' button), then everything will be English.

[TeeBlack]

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will this opera browser work with my sanyo vm4500/5500?

It should,try and let us know.

it doesn't work for me. it says my phone doesn't accept java.

[fl00d_pr0z]

I have it on my Treo and it's kinda sketchy... Using the 5 way nav makes the "highlighted" area jump all over the place.

[dravonix]

nice find.

[dravonix]

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Get it here
Opera Mini (http://felipecn.innereyes.com/2005/08/download-opera-mini/)

MyOpera Forums (http://my.opera.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=111)

I have both jad and jar files for the hi and low versions,but can't upload them here

my phone gets a said read error when going to the download, so i used WebXcope (webxcope.com), a html translator, and now i get an 'the requested service is unavailable' error. can i get any help here?

[simpsonsadict]

You have to click the right softbutton after that (it's the 'save' button), then everything will be English.


thanks invader

[phale]

Try these on your phone

Opera Mini Low (http://felipecn.innereyes.com/wp-me...ra_Mini_low.jad)

or

Opera Mini Low 2 (http://www.gtoal.com/pcs/desc.php/jadifyw0Gkw/Opera_Mini_low.jad)

[phale]

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Try these on your phone

Opera Mini Low (http://felipecn.innereyes.com/wp-me...ra_Mini_low.jad)

or

Opera Mini Low 2 (http://www.gtoal.com/pcs/desc.php/jadifyw0Gkw/Opera_Mini_low.jad)

Sorry but the 1st link wont work from phone,2nd does

[narf]

According to the Opera website, their mini browser uses a portal to reformat pages, and it's likely that the portal only accepts traffic from users in Norway right now. I'm guessing that's why we aren't able to get beyond the first page.

[dravonix]

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i'll try it

[cliffr39]

According to the Opera website, their mini browser uses a portal to reformat pages, and it's likely that the portal only accepts traffic from users in Norway right now. I'm guessing that's why we aren't able to get beyond the first page.

That could be... it doesn't work for me either, not even a "first page"

[DJ_VIO]

go to "wap.opera.com" in your phone's browser.

[dravonix]

it osrta worked until i got voicemail, then it stoped, not even redownloading works
going into the menu crashed it too.

[cliffr39]

go to "wap.opera.com" in your phone's browser.

That worked, but nothing else, not even links on that site.

[jonzdust]

That could be... it doesn't work for me either, not even a "first page"

Like most other people, I got the first page to work (in my case, google.com). From what I've read on other forums, this browser does work in the US, but there must be something about Sprint that's stopping it from loading more than the first page you visit.

[lgmayka]

I was able to get Opera Mini to go to a couple of Web pages, but...

1) It displays the VM4050's 35KB bug just as WebViewer does. PocketWeb supposedly would not, because it reads pages in 5KB chunks, but I could not get PocketWeb to work on my phone at all.

2) I cannot successfully bring up the Menu ("Meny") and so I cannot switch Opera Mini to English!

[wordpowa]

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Isn't compatible with my 225. But, then again... NOTHING is compatible with my 225.

[michelle]

You have to click the right softbutton after that (it's the 'save' button), then everything will be English.

could you please start over? i am having trouble finding the option to change it to english...

[michelle]

2) I cannot successfully bring up the Menu ("Meny") and so I cannot switch Opera Mini to English!

same here...

[Tigrrre]

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i can. it seems you can bring up the menu on midp-2.0 phones, but i cannot get it to load any pages except for this weird one @ geocities...at least on my 5500 it loaded webpages normally. also...anyone know why webxscope.com isnt working?

[Stevecccc]

Got it working on the Treo 650. Man is it fast! - but sometimes you have to re-enter the site twice to get it to load and the 5-way navigation is weird sometimes!

[michelle]

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Where is the right place to get this app. am pissed i cant get to the english setting!

[Tigrrre]

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michelle, #7 change sprak from norsk to english. ;)

[michelle]

where did you download yours from?

[Tigrrre]

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one of the wap links that phale provided.

[Tigrrre]

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wont do you any good though. it seemed to work ok on my 5500, it crashed when i tried to open the menu, but it loaded pages. on my 7400 the menu opens perfectly, but it wont load any pages except for gmail (the 1st page i tried to open with it)

[michelle]

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one of the wap links that phale provided.

Is it wap.opera.com? If so, which link?

[GreenDayPunk74]

This should help you out

http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/products/

[Tigrrre]

http://www.gtoal.com/pcs/desc.php/jadifyw0Gkw/Opera_Mini_low.jad

[michelle]

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How do u set it 2 english!

[freeza]

They didn't anticipate on any people knowing English would download their software so they made it impossible to change to English.

[michelle]

freakn a!

[freeza]

I'm going to write Opera an E-mail and bribe them with some SU$ for a version of their browser that is ENGLISH!

I'm tired of the crummy browser the 535 has. i can't even..bookmark.. sss

EDIT: NEVERMIND

[michelle]

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Why is it that some others got it to work. Help us out guys!

[bryanw20]

I havn't tried it yet, do I have a chance of making it work on my a620(vga1000)?
If so the jad or jar?
If not, what alternatives do I have? 80% of pages I try to go to with internal browser fail.

[toidi]

Hey It Works On My 8300 And Boy Do I Like It. I Am Making This Post From My Phone. O Yeah It Shows Images Too

[michelle]

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Where did you download it from?

[toidi]

i used the links provided on the first page for the high memory version.

then i used this to upload it:
http://www.gtoal.com/pcs/upload.php

[lgmayka]

i used the links provided on the first page for the high memory version.
At least one download page says that the high-memory version is for phones with MIDP2.0 (or as Sprint says, MM phones). If anyone is able to get the high-memory version working on a MIDP1.0 phone like the Toshiba VM4050, let us know.

[Tigrrre]

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Hey It Works On My 8300 And Boy Do I Like It. I Am Making This Post From My Phone. O Yeah It Shows Images Too

any chance you could provide me with a nice wap dl link?

[wordpowa]

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Hey It Works On My 8300 And Boy Do I Like It. I Am Making This Post From My Phone. O Yeah It Shows Images Too

any chance you could provide me with a nice wap dl link?

that would be beautiful.

[bitey]

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Where did you download it from?

I don't have a wap link but from a PC this link works for me. Get the high memory version. Then, use an uploader to send it to your phone. I hope this helps.

http://felipecn.innereyes.com/2005/08/download-opera-mini/

[cliffr39]

I don't have a wap link but from a PC this link works for me. Get the high memory version. Then, use an uploader to send it to your phone. I hope this helps.

http://felipecn.innereyes.com/2005/08/download-opera-mini/


holy wow, this one actually works for me... its different from the MANY other versions I've downloaded over the last few months too... I just sent it to myself so heres the wap link to grab it

http://www.gtoal.com/pcs/desc.php/jadiLn8j8Kv/opera.jad

PS its in another language also... didn't figure out how to change it just yet. (again its different from the others I've downloaded)

EDIT: ok found out how to change to English. Hit Left soft key for a "menu" (the menu is empty on my screen, guess cuz phone doesn't have that type language font) scroll down to the line with the right arrow, then hit over, then down one line and hit OK. Scroll to the bottom where it says "novsk" (I think it was) then change to English - ok then hit left soft key again.

Also Opera isn't working for me...it seems to only open things in its cache I guess. Nothing I type in... it all goes to the same pages (couldn't tell that before, lol it was all in forgein language)

In Opera Mini the help section says "to start your handset need a GPRS/3G profile"
Do we have a 3G profile on our Sprint phones?

[laursifer]

EDIT: ok found out how to change to English. Hit Left soft key for a "menu" (the menu is empty on my screen, guess cuz phone doesn't have that type language font) scroll down to the line with the right arrow, then hit over, then down one line and hit OK. Scroll to the bottom where it says "novsk" (I think it was) then change to English - ok then hit left soft key again.


Damn, you beat me to it! I was just coming here to post that. :p

I haven't gotten a chance to try it out much. But the things in the Menu key are now in English, so that's cool.

[michelle]

ah english thank god. how come i can't get it to load other pages? i can load yahoo.com but then when i click a link, it takes me to this strange page... :irked:

[freeza]

I don't think this crappy browser is worth it anymore.

[cliffr39]

ah english thank god. how come i can't get it to load other pages? i can load yahoo.com but then when i click a link, it takes me to this strange page... :irked:

lol yeah thats what it did to me too...thats why I was asking about that 3G profile the Opera Mini help section talked about

[cliffr39]

ah english thank god. how come i can't get it to load other pages? i can load yahoo.com but then when i click a link, it takes me to this strange page... :irked:


Hey I have a question for you about your signature "$35/mo: 540aT, UL NW 8pm, UL Vision, UL PictureMail, UL VideoMail, UL SMS, UL P2P. Member since 1998"

what is P2P?
When I hit Vision / My Account / My Plan:
I see Sprint F&F plan / Adjustable anytime minutes/$34.99 blah... / <AMERICA> / <P2P>

What is the P2P and doesn't that <AMERICA> thing mean roaming included or is that just national sprint network only?

[threestepps]

P2P Short For Pcs To Pcs? Or at least thats what I call it when I put it in the notes that I added it.

[Tigrrre]

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ok....i just tried this on my friends s710 (the high memory ver.) and it works perfectly...there must be something screwy going on with sprints j2me implementation.

[laursifer]

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Yeah... I just started fooling around with it and I'm having the same problems as others with it only loading the first page I went to. Such a freakin' shame.

[Tigrrre]

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isnt that called m2m now since nextel and boost are included?

[harris]

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I think I know why the browser only allows one page view. We have unregistered copies of it. I must say im impressed with the opera minis UI it looks better than the austere interface of webviewer or pocketweb although it lags behind pocket web in terms of functionality.

[harris]

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The date and time display is a nice touch too.

[Tigrrre]

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I think I know why the browser only allows one page view. We have unregistered copies of it. I must say im impressed with the opera minis UI it looks better than the austere interface of webviewer or pocketweb although it lags behind pocket web in terms of functionality.

no thats not it. ive tried it on an s710 and it worked just fine. loaded every page.

[harris]

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The s710 is a gsm phone for t-mobile correct.

[cliffr39]

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The s710 is a gsm phone for t-mobile correct.

according to phonescoop.com its for Cingular... but alot of T-Mo users got this thing to work...

[gbach3p1]

with my vm4050 it lets me install it and loads fine but when i hit the menu (left soft key) it gives me the error "Can't launch opera mini" (i get this error with some games too.......and this is the low version too so i dont get it. anyone else hav ethis happen or have a suggestion?

[campbellswrath]

I got it to work on my 4500 but my menu closes the application too so i cant save bookmarks or anything. Is there a way to exit the app that i havent seen. Other than that it seems to work pretty good.

[michelle]

aaaaaaaaaaaaarghhhh this app sucks!!!!!!!!

[wordpowa]

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im done with this bs

[harris]

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There is something wrong with the java implementation. If i power off the phone and remove the battery for about 60 sec. i can get the app. to load another page once. After that its back to the usual #@*t. This app. is useless. im glad for pocketweb.

[wordpowa]

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whats pocket web?

[laursifer]

whats pocket web?


http://www.getjar.com/products/709/PocketWeb


That tells you a bit about it

[Tigrrre]

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it costs $$ though...

[lgmayka]

http://www.getjar.com/products/709/PocketWeb
So which phones does this actually work on? It does not work on the Toshiba VM4050.

[freeza]

Complete waste of time.

[michelle]

:irked: sigh...

[laursifer]

Opera Mini can bite me. I played around with it for like two freaking hours (wow, that's such a lie) today and it still sucks.

Back to hopelessly waiting for a good browser...

[toidi]

i still dont get why it works on my 8300 and not others. i have had no problems with it, and i use it more than the normal vision browser

[laursifer]

i still dont get why it works on my 8300 and not others. i have had no problems with it, and i use it more than the normal vision browser


Do you have a horse shoe stuck up anywhere? :cool:

Lucky hfjkds;afkl.

[toidi]

no horseshoes that i know of, i just used this uploader http://www.gtoal.com/pcs/upload.php and the jar and jad files from the first page, i believe the link says download here and it provides 2 versions. i used the large memory version and it worked fine

[laursifer]

Yeah, trust me, that's what we've all been doing. Stupid thing just doesn't work for us. More power to you, though... must be nice!

[cliffr39]

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Yeah you lucky person you. opera looks nice but thats it, only looks

[Tigrrre]

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no horseshoes that i know of, i just used this uploader http://www.gtoal.com/pcs/upload.php and the jar and jad files from the first page, i believe the link says download here and it provides 2 versions. i used the large memory version and it worked fine

so why dont you upload that version and post a wap link here?

[YPG]

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isnt that called m2m now since nextel and boost are included?

OFF-TOPIC:
Boost Mobile is included in PCS to PCS?
Is Virgin Mobile even recognized as Sprint to Sprint?


ON-TOPIC:
I downloaded Opera Mini for My 7400 but I can't even get it to change languauge even after following directions posted here.
Why is there a countdown timer at the bottom of the screen?

[Tigrrre]

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yes they are. and no VM isnt..dont know why though.

[YPG]

So BOOST yes and VM no?
That's strange, I wonder why...
How do you know?

[toidi]

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so why dont you upload that version and post a wap link here?

when i get home i will post wap links to both the small memory version and the large memory versions. so in about 5 in a half hours

[YPG]

when i get home i will post wap links to both the small memory version and the large memory versions. so in about 5 in a half hours

That would be great! Which version for the 7400? And would you be kind enough to re-explain how to get the language to change because nothing I've done has worked.

[laursifer]

Both versions are available in the link from this post:
http://sprintusers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=697750&postcount=14

Changing browser language to English:
http://sprintusers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=757848&postcount=70

[toidi]

That would be great! Which version for the 7400? And would you be kind enough to re-explain how to get the language to change because nothing I've done has worked.\

i would use the high memory version on a 7400

[steb0ne]

Well, I managed to change the language, but can't seem to figure out why it keeps loading the same page.

[michelle]

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I just wanna say aaaaaaaaaaaaa aa a. :irked:

[cliffr39]

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Wow i didn't know boost and virgin are both free to call with mobile to mobile calling

[toidi]

here is a wap link for the Low memory version
http://www.gtoal.com/pcs/desc.php/jadZRPKq59s/operalow.jad

And here is the wap link for the high memory version
http://www.gtoal.com/pcs/desc.php/jadpcLpPCPX/opera.jad

now to determin which to use, if you have a Multimedia phone use the high memory version. if not use the low memory version.

no to get the language to english.

run opera mini, should be in the applications folder.
hit the top left softkey a menu should appear
scroll down to where there appears to be a right facing arrow and hit ok, or just scroll to the right.
then go down to the 2nd line and hit okay.
go down to the bottom of that page where there is a drop down box. select the box and hit okay, select english, hit okay, then hit the top left softkey to save.

now to browse. hit the menu key(top left softkey) it say enter address. put in the address, DO NOT HIT OK, hit the top right softkey should be for menu, go down and select ok. and hopefully that will work for you

[wordpowa]

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still doesn't work.

[harris]

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here is a wap link for the Low memory version
http://www.gtoal.com/pcs/desc.php/jadZRPKq59s/operalow.jad

And here is the wap link for the high memory version
http://www.gtoal.com/pcs/desc.php/jadpcLpPCPX/opera.jad

now to determin which to use, if you have a Multimedia phone use the high memory version. if not use the low memory version.

no to get the language to english.

run opera mini, should be in the applications folder.
hit the top left softkey a menu should appear
scroll down to where there appears to be a right facing arrow and hit ok, or just scroll to the right.
then go down to the 2nd line and hit okay.
go down to the bottom of that page where there is a drop down box. select the box and hit okay, select english, hit okay, then hit the top left softkey to save.

now to browse. hit the menu key(top left softkey) it say enter address. put in the address, DO NOT HIT OK, hit the top right softkey should be for menu, go down and select ok. and hopefully that will work for you

Yeah! We tried that already and it doesn't work. Keeps loading the first page.

[wordpowa]

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this is a bit frustrating

[steb0ne]

Well, I've offically stop messing with Opera and I've offically a licensed user of PocketWeb for the next 12 months. It actually works. I'm not sure if it's better than the Webviewer people were able to get while they were selling it, but this has worked for me on my 7400 without any flaws (so far.) And the app is smaller in size. Nice settings menu also lets you customize the browser settings.

Maybe, I'll check back with Opera later to see if it works any better than it does now. I still can't get it to load more than one page.

[harris]

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I sent opera a an e-mail asking them when their mini browser will be officially released state side. I will keep you posted.

[harris]

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Oh and before i forget they have a forum too; anyone up for some espionage. :D

[michelle]

i too have downloaded the pocketweb trial. not bad.
download the .jar here
http://www.getjar.com/products/709/PocketWeb
and upload to phone here http://rumkin.com/tools/sprint/
so far so good...

[Masterloc]

is it possible to get to these forums from the opera mini browser?. .i like the screen setup better than the builtin browser on the 535

[harris]

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is it possible to get to these forums from the opera mini browser?. .i like the screen setup better than the builtin browser on the 535

No the mini browser doesn't work at all. Use pocketweb or webviewer.

[toidi]

is it possible to get to these forums from the opera mini browser?. .i like the screen setup better than the builtin browser on the 535

i have browsed to the forums serveral times using the opera mini browser, and i like it better than the WAP site

[Masterloc]

i was trying to get to the wap site. that was my error

[laursifer]

i was trying to get to the wap site. that was my error


Whoa, whoa, whoa. Are you getting Opera to work on a 535?!

[alibi]

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Cant Find The Language Button

[cegil]

Hi

I was "playing around" with the Navigating codes for Opera Mini, Sunday, for awhile. The codes are:

#,1 = Enter URL
#,2 = View bookmarks
#,3 = Go to start of main content, or beginning and end of page
#,4 = Go to start (portal) page
#,5 = History
#,6 = Page information
#,7 = Save bookmark
#,8 = Edit settings
#,9 = Web search
#,0 = Reload
#,# = Navigate forward
*: = Toggle display of toolbars (if available)

Since yesterday, (Monday), whenever I try to use WebViewer or Opera Mini, they seem to be [in a] frozen or locked up state when awaiting a reply?
Other Vision applications all work normally.

I think that maybe I messed something up by entering the above codes, numerous times, and got those two apps locked up, so in your opinion, is there some way to restore the functionallity of these apps, without having to delete/restore them.

Any suggestions, huh?

[michelle]

guys!!!! laursi and i want to know! does it work for the 535 yet or what?!?!??!!?

[cliffr39]

guys!!!! laursi and i want to know! does it work for the 535 yet or what?!?!??!!?


... it seems to be hit or miss on several phones (and several carriers)
I'm in the miss boat :(

[toidi]

guys!!!! laursi and i want to know! does it work for the 535 yet or what?!?!??!!?

it should work on the 535 although some people have said that it doesn't

[michelle]

freakn a. i have yet to get it to load past one page.

[castaway-]

somehow....i just clicked the search on the main window and it took me to sprintusers.com... im browsing there now...i have an LG 535

*edit* i add google to my bookmarks and click on ok to go to it ...and it goes to howardforums.com ? how does this thing work server cahe?

[steb0ne]

freakn a. i have yet to get it to load past one page.


That was the same problem I was having with that Opera browser. It kept opening up the same page from cache.

[castaway-]

here no matter what if u input an address or click on a link ..it loads random pages...

[lgmayka]

#,1 = Enter URL
#,2 = View bookmarks
...
#,7 = Save bookmark
#,8 = Edit settings
Gasp! This is exactly what I needed to make Opera Mini genuinely usable. Edit Settings let me change the language to English; and the other three codes above are also essential to efficient Web surfing.

Note that I am using the low-memory (MIDP1.0) version of Opera Mini, because my Toshiba VM4050 does not support MIDP2.0. Note also that I still slam into the evil 35KB limitation.

[YPG]

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Wow i didn't know boost and virgin are both free to call with mobile to mobile calling

Just BOOST, not Virgin Mobile if I understood correctly.

[laursifer]

Downloaded the MIDP 1.0 version (http://felipecn.innereyes.com/2005/08/download-opera-mini/).

Works like a charm. Why I didn't think of this before..... :thought:

[laursifer]

In fact, I'm posting from it right now. Ahhh... T9

[harris]

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I'm using the low memory version on my mm7400. It now seems to work, it wasn't working yesterday. Interestingly Pocketweb is only loading text now maybe its the servers on their end. But..... I don't think so. My-casts radar is not working properly and I keep getting logged off of sprintusers. It could be just a coincidence but i think they are some how related although i am at loss to explain how.

[laursifer]

I couldn't really get PocketWeb to work well AT ALL on my phone. It loaded really basic pages but that was it. I went to about 4 different sites on Opera low and puttered around SU without a problem. I'm still testing it, but so far it's working great on the 535. At least better than the high version did, and tons better than PocketWeb was working for me.

[Tigrrre]

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grr every time i try to load a page i get this stupid flash card page.

[michelle]

In fact, I'm posting from it right now. Ahhh... T9

ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!??? girl i downloaded the one you got and it's still in martian language and i can't change it. :irked:

hold on, which one are you on, opera or pocketweb

[laursifer]

Opera low... Do the uhhh... #8 I think (from that one really smart person's post) to go into settings, scroll to the bottom and click on Nyuthriehlsgdak or whatever it says... then select English and hit the right soft key. Should change it to English from there.

[michelle]

lawd they make it so complicated. so i changed it to english. but now i can't get it to load any pages. mother f!!!!!

[Tigrrre]

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i tried putting it back into norsk and it showed all the characters in russian. and it still keeps loading the bloody flashcard page! :indiff:

[michelle]

freakn unbelievable. we're on the 10th page and still can't figure it out. i need a drink.

[steb0ne]

That Opera program is whack! Both versions keep loading the same page. I thought I'd try it again but now I really quit. Anyone figure out how to fix this let me know.

BTW. This was posted from PocketWeb, with no problems. I've already purchased a 1 year liscense.

[iBLoSTBoY]

I don't know what the hell these guys are on about - It doesn't work - Don't bother downloading it - Tried it on my 8300. Cached page loads over and over again.
Even a 8300 user confirmed it worked on his phone maybe he just launched it and got all excited.... Sure you can get it too run but it won't Go to any SITE! So stop with the Misinformation!

[michelle]

stop the insanity!

[iBLoSTBoY]

blah

[laursifer]

I dunno how to explain it. I deleted the hi version (I'll also note, just in case, that PocketWeb wasn't installed anymore either, since I had next-to-zero luck with that), installed the low version of Opera and it works great. Still does, too. I've used it a lot since this afternoon, making sure it continues to work and isn't just teasing me. As much as I love a tease, I'm not too keen on it coming from my phone.

So, kid with the 8300, maybe you should try the low version if you haven't already. If you read the entire thread, you can see that it seems hit or miss for some reason. Don't assume people are lying just because something doesn't work for you. Believe it or not, when people say it loads more than just one page, most of the time they aren't just saying it for the heck of it; we actually mean it. Shocking, I know.

[cliffr39]

I don't know what the hell these guys are on about - It doesn't work - Don't bother downloading it - Tried it on my 8300. Cached page loads over and over again.
Even a 8300 user confirmed it worked on his phone maybe he just launched it and got all excited.... Sure you can get it too run but it won't Go to any SITE! So stop with the Misinformation!


Its not "misinformation" it just works for some phones on some carriers... search google and you will see others on T-Mobile posting the same (hit or miss luck).

[iBLoSTBoY]

it doesn't Work Trust ME. =] BTW How much memory is unused on the phone for you guys who are claiming it works? Maybe you need certain amount of free space so that you can actually go to different sites rather than first site(cached) NOT enough free space to cache pages causing it to go to the same one? Just a thought :icon_smil

[steb0ne]

Both versions (I've tried) keep loading the same page. I get it really is hit or miss. I guess you get what you pay for huh?

Hit and MIss Thats BS there has to be some factor why its working on some phones even the same models and not others.... Do i need to get rid off all my RingerS? all the other APPS? Do i need to reboot my cell after i download Opera? ARGHHHH! it can't be just freakin Luck don't give me that crap.

Wow, calm down iBLoSTBoy. It's not that serious. Try PocketWeb, if the trial works then it works, if not don't buy it. If you're looking for something to use for free, then keep trying.

[iBLoSTBoY]

Hit and MIss Thats BS there has to be some factor why its working on some phones even the same models and not others.... Do i need to get rid off all my RingerS? all the other APPS? Do i need to reboot my cell after i download Opera? ARGHHHH! it can't be just freakin Luck don't give me that crap.

[newone757]

yea check your memory and report back. Niether versions workin on he 7400 for me

[iBLoSTBoY]

I just want to browse www.newzbin.com On my cell while i'm at work =(

Okay i'm calm now.

[laursifer]

Ohhhh SNAP!


Here's my phone browsing one page...

http://trickyspider.net/535_Pics/opera01.jpg


Here's my phone browsing another page...


http://trickyspider.net/535_Pics/opera02.jpg


And another page...


http://trickyspider.net/535_Pics/opera03.jpg


Oh and look at this! Here's one more!!!


http://trickyspider.net/535_Pics/opera04.jpg



It DOES work. Don't accuse me of BSing, especially when you haven't a clue.



Oh, and I've got like 10MB of downloads, leaving around 10MB free.

[newone757]

yours looks a lot different than mine. Soft keys are reversed and bar is blue not red. It doesnt have date and time at the top niether.. hmmmm?

[laursifer]

I'm using the low version... as stated like 4 times.

[iBLoSTBoY]

yours looks a lot different than mine. Soft keys are reversed and bar is blue not red. It doesnt have date and time at the top niether.. hmmmm?

Same Here - you downloaded it from here http://felipecn.innereyes.com/wp-media/operalow.jad right genius? Might want to Post the DIRECTLINK?

[laursifer]

One more time for the slow people... Seriously, I'm trying to help here, but you're being completely ignorant. I can only tolerate so much.

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=761791&postcount=137

[newone757]

One more time for the slow people... Seriously, I'm trying to help here, but you're being completely ignorant. I can only tolerate so much.

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=761791&postcount=137

Who is slow??? I already understood and i used the exact same one but with no success so i guess youre just lucky. It also might have to do with the amount of free space cuz i dont have much plus the 7400 doesnt start out with much in the first place

[steb0ne]

I'd love to know why mine keeps loading the same page. I installed Opera, went to SU and it loaded fine. I couldn't click on anything, without the same page loading again. I uninstalled and reinstalled it; tried to go to www.google.com and it loaded SU again. I waited about 5-10 minutes and tried www.abc.com and it loaded it fine. I tried to go to Google or SU and it reloaded ABC.com again. I tried it about 3 more times, still getting ABC.com.

One more time for the slow people... Seriously, I'm trying to help here, but you're being completely ignorant. I can only tolerate so much.

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=761791&postcount=137


I think everyone, knows which version you're referring to, but that's not the problem. It's not working for anyone else. Well, maybe it works for a selected few. But if your phone has 10MB of memory available after using 10 MB of memory, that's a lot of memory. The 7400 only has like 2.8MB of memory available total.

However, someone posted that they got it to work on their 7400, so that throws the memory requirement out the window.

So, who actually are you calling slow?

[iBLoSTBoY]

Who is slow??? I already understood and i used the exact same one but with no success so i guess youre just lucky. It also might have to do with the amount of free space cuz i dont have much plus the 7400 doesnt start out with much in the first place


Yep =] I fell alot on my head when i was a kid Probably thats why i'm slow
You have 10mb? and 10 mb Free? WoOHOo. Anyways Enjoy your Opera Browsing experiencing. I'm sure its the free space on your phone that matters. End of discussion

[steb0ne]

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I'm using the low memory version on my mm7400. It now seems to work, it wasn't working yesterday. Interestingly Pocketweb is only loading text now maybe its the servers on their end. But..... I don't think so. My-casts radar is not working properly and I keep getting logged off of sprintusers. It could be just a coincidence but i think they are some how related although i am at loss to explain how.

Regarding the Pocketweb only loading text. There is an option thru the menu if you go to settings, then select images, there is an option to select if you want to Auto Load the images, restrict non important images (like ads), etc. The app allow you to customize it. It loads the page faster when there are less images, but if you don't mind waiting for the whole page to load, turn on the Auto Load Imgs option and set restrictions to None.

[dchec2100]

Mine is working perfectally on my 535... no problems... thanks for the link Laursifer! (About 15 mb free on mine)...

[iBLoSTBoY]

yep free space - i see a pattern =D How much does the 8300 come with? lol

[steb0ne]

yep free space - i see a pattern =D How much does the 8300 come with? lol

The 8300 comes with about 2MB of memory total. Less than the 7400.

The user "harris" posted: I'm using the low memory version on my mm7400. It now seems to work, it wasn't working yesterday.

I wonder how much memory they have available, and if it still works.

[iBLoSTBoY]

Well try to get rid of a few things you don't need, i doubt it it will work on my 2mb! Yucks thats low.. Not going to experiment, have custom ringers and Video. ;]

[steb0ne]

Well try to get rid of a few things you don't need, i doubt it it will work on my 2mb! Yucks thats low.. Not going to experiment, have custom ringers and Video. ;]

Well, I've got everything backed up on my computer so, I may try and delete some things. I'll let you know if it works.

[laursifer]

I'd love to know why mine keeps loading the same page. I installed Opera, went to SU and it loaded fine. I couldn't click on anything, without the same page loading again. I uninstalled and reinstalled it; tried to go to www.google.com (http://www.google.com) and it loaded SU again. I waited about 5-10 minutes and tried www.abc.com (http://www.abc.com) and it loaded it fine. I tried to go to Google or SU and it reloaded ABC.com again. I tried it about 3 more times, still getting ABC.com.


Exactly. That's why I said I thought it was hit or miss. Because we've got an instance where one 8300 user can run it fine while another 8300 user cannot; and now we have an instance of two 535 users who can run it while at least two others cannot (*edit: now three who can and two who still can't, even after trying the low version). I have no idea what causes this, which is why it seems hit or miss--pure luck. I honestly wish there was some way to figure this out; for me it was just going down to the low version.

I agree the memory thing seems to be a good idea in theory, but at least for the 535 users, it's very hard to use just half the internal memory. I don't know how much internal memory the other 535 users have free, but I have a lot downloaded to my phone (40-some wallpapers, 9 ringers, 26 games & 19 applications).

It's hard to say it, but hit or miss seems to be the only explanation that we can come up with so far, given everything we've heard from people who have tried it.

In regards to the slow thing, I was being somewhat sarcastic (probably inappropriately, but whatever) with iblostboy. He's been rude. I don't like rude; it annoys me.

[iBLoSTBoY]

Awwwwww Group HUG! Will look to get a new cell with more memory.

I agree the memory thing seems to be a good idea in theory, but at least for the 535 users, it's very hard to use just half the internal memory. I don't know how much internal memory the other 535 users have free, but I have a lot downloaded to my phone (40-some wallpapers, 9 ringers, 26 games & 19 applications).

I'm not that slow after all WooHOOoO!

[steb0ne]

Awwwwww Group HUG! Will look to get a new cell with more memory.

Well, I've freed up 2.1MB on my 7400, and still no luck. I'll go with the "Hit or Miss" theory. With the PocketWeb app, I only had 300Kb of free space and it worked perfectly (even with the auto load image option turned on, with no cache).

I understand everyone may be getting frustrated, but let's stick together and try and help each other out.

[Tigrrre]

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still the same old crap. i freed up some 2mb as well.

[dchec2100]

Just got the full version running on mine...

[steb0ne]

Just got the full version running on mine...

Which phone?

[Tigrrre]

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ah i give up! :) ....hopefully it will work on the new EVDO phones.

[dchec2100]

LG 535... but I have a ton of space left, like I said... not sure if that's the actual case in it working or not, but that seems to be much of the consensus here...

[Tigrrre]

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uh i think i figured it out. it is the memory. for some reason it would work on my old 5500 but it seems you need some 4mb of memory. it runs perfectly on java symbian phones, and on my friends s710.

[laursifer]

uh i think i figured it out. it is the memory. for some reason it would work on my old 5500 but it seems you need some 4mb of memory. it runs perfectly on java symbian phones, and on my friends s710.


I think we've concluded, though, that this isn't the case. 535 users have 20MB of internal memory. And there are at least two 535 users who cannot run Opera low or Opera hi. And now we have one (maybe two, I can't remember) who can run Opera hi, while I know I can't and Michelle can't. And Michelle... she can't even get Opera low to work.

It doesn't make sense. It's not supposed to, apparently.

[freeza]

Screw it.

Freeza to the rescue.

i will run BOTH HI and low.

My phone has mysterious powers that make it better than everyone elses phone.

[dchec2100]

I think we've concluded, though, that this isn't the case. 535 users have 20MB of internal memory. And there are at least two 535 users who cannot run Opera low or Opera hi. And now we have one (maybe two, I can't remember) who can run Opera hi, while I know I can't and Michelle can't. And Michelle... she can't even get Opera low to work.

It doesn't make sense. It's not supposed to, apparently.

Yeah, this is true, I forgot about her not getting low or high to work... this is very odd...

Side note: I don't see a way to change the start page from the default one... unless i'm missing something...

Dan

[laursifer]

Side note: I don't see a way to change the start page from the default one... unless i'm missing something...


I tried everything I could think of... and then I thought to check around and see if anyone's had any luck with this, ever. I'm finding page after page of people saying it cannot be changed. It's an embedded part of the application, apparently, or so some people are saying. Annoying, but not that big of a deal to me. Only because this is my only option. :p

[dchec2100]

Ya, I don't mind the opening page...

Ok, so maybe I spoke to soon about it working without a hitch. A lot of sites I can navigate just fine, but other I can not.

Take sprintusers.com for instance... I can see the main page fine, but I'm unable to navigate to the forum main page. It says it's loaded, but it's blank (yes I'm using the wap address)...

[laursifer]

Take sprintusers.com for instance... I can see the main page fine, but I'm unable to navigate to the forum main page. It says it's loaded, but it's blank (yes I'm using the wap address)...


Have you tried NOT using the WAP address? I just go to sprintusers.com and it's been working fine. I haven't had any problems yet with Opera low... but I'm also not keeping my hopes up, considering how moody it seems to be.

PocketWeb gave me the same result (blank white page) that you seem to be getting with certain pages. I could load Google and a couple of other really simple pages, but I tried loading my personal websites, SprintUsers, Slashdot... they all loaded blank. #$*%$! :irked:

I wish I could get Opera hi to work (Freeza did, which pisses me off 'cause my phone is better than his and he knows it). Thing makes no sense and that gets to me.

[harris]

I've got it working on my mm7400.

[reptilerick]

I just got this on my 5600. It seems to be working well. Thanks for the heads up for this great app. I am posting using it now.

[Tigrrre]

i never got it to work with my 7400, even with the low memory version. i even cleared close to 2mb but it still didnt work. whats weird about it though is that it would work on my 5500 even with 60-100kb free. ill never understand this app.

[dchec2100]

Have you tried NOT using the WAP address? I just go to sprintusers.com and it's been working fine. I haven't had any problems yet with Opera low... but I'm also not keeping my hopes up, considering how moody it seems to be.

I wish I could get Opera hi to work (Freeza did, which pisses me off 'cause my phone is better than his and he knows it). Thing makes no sense and that gets to me.

Everything works fine with Opera low... I can get to the forums and everywhere else with it, no problem. With Opera high, I could get to the main sprintusers.com page but nothing appeared when I tried to go to the forums. I believe I tried it with and without using the wap address...

[harris]

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i never got it to work with my 7400, even with the low memory version. i even cleared close to 2mb but it still didnt work. whats weird about it though is that it would work on my 5500 even with 60-100kb free. ill never understand this app.

I think I've found the culprit. Maybe someone with more computer literacy can explain this more accurately. Phone numbers, text messages, bookmarks all occupy memory.... when the minibrowser is launched the text it contains somehow occupys that same memory space i think; heres why i say this. Yesterday I could not get either version of the opera browser working but after deleting a few unused phone numbers, bookmarks and textmessages i was able to run the high version with no problem.

[dchec2100]

Yesterday I could not get either version of the opera browser working but after deleting a few unused phone numbers, bookmarks and textmessages i was able to run the high version with no problem.

Are you able to view this forum with the high version? If so, what address did you start from??

[harris]

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Yes! I used http://www.sprintusers.com/forum then i logged in. I was even able to post.

[dchec2100]

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Yes! I used http://www.sprintusers.com/forum then i logged in. I was even able to post.

AHHHH ok... I removed low, redownloaded high, and was able to view the forum fine, using just sprintusers.com and not the wap site...

[michelle]

alright scoobies what's the deal. what did i miss. last time i was here we were on page 10.

[laursifer]

It still seems to be hit or miss. I only say this because we have 535 users who can run hi and low, some who can only run low and some who can't run either. I think we've had a lot of good theories, but the 535 has so much internal memory that it just seems like that can't have anything to do with it.

Harris's theory was good, but I have 10MB of free space, very few people in my phone book, like only 3 bookmarks... and I clean out text messages all the time (stupid phone only holds 50 anyway). I still can't get the hi version to run, but low works fine. It doesn't make sense.

So, Michelle, if you delete any Opera versions you have installed, delete PocketWeb, and just keep re-installing Opera low (or hi if you're feeling gutsy), maybe one of those times it will work. Who knows. I was going to delete Opera low and try the hi version again, but I'm afraid I'll end up not being able to run either of them ever again.

[michelle]

jesus i need a drink after that one!

[Tigrrre]

deleted all my texts, still nadda. im gonna get try n get a 535 grr....

[dchec2100]

deleted all my texts, still nadda. im gonna get try n get a 535 grr....

eh, wait for something that's EVDO compatible... my phone w/ verizon was, and for some reason i thought the 535 was when I got it... DAMNIT! :frustrate

[cerebasan]

It still seems to be hit or miss. I only say this because we have 535 users who can run hi and low, some who can only run low and some who can't run either. I think we've had a lot of good theories, but the 535 has so much internal memory that it just seems like that can't have anything to do with it.

I have the 535 and it's working for me. Low version is the only one I've tried. I'm lovin it!!!!!!!!
Cerebasan

[harris]

This browser beats webviewer hands down if you can get it to work.

[laursifer]

One thing I have to say I really like is the scrolling. The 535's browser (openwave) gives you two options: block and smooth. Call me crazy, but there isn't much of a difference, if any, between the two. Scrolling is painful. On Opera low, however, scrolling actually is smooth. It scrolls fast and then will slow down some, which actually is pretty nice, 'cause it does scroll pretty darn fast at first. Really liking it. :tu:

[dchec2100]

Cooool... just discovered that the left/right buttons on the 535 pad scroll pages instead of line-by-line... sweeeeet.

[steb0ne]

Booooo!!! I'm hating because this doesn't work on my 7400. Does anyone have PocketWeb? (an actual licsensed version?) I have it and it's pretty nice. I would like to compare the two.

I can say, the only thing I don't like on the PocketWeb browser is, you can't just hold down to scroll.

But here's some of the options in the settings menu:

Images->Auto-Load Imgs(on/off); Image Colors (2, 16, 64, 256); Restrictions (supress unimportant); cache (5, 10, 20 images)

Font Size: Large or Small

Cookies:Let's you turn on/off or ask

Page Partitioning: Large pages are split into smaller pieces. At the top of the page, you will see links for browsing the page parts. At the bottom, there is a link to the next part. You can customize or turn off page partitioning in the menu

Cache Size: Can be set from 1-5 pages

Forms: Can set to remeber passwords or not

SSL Connections: Can access secure sites. But warns connection between your device and PocketWeb will not secure.

History

[laursifer]

Y...eah. Opera Low, at least, doesn't have any of those settings. That's the only thing that's truly disappointing me by now. Aside from that, I love it.

Here's Opera Low Settings:



Load Images
Higher Image Quality
Jump directly to main text part
Language
However, I've found that... pretty much... Opera doesn't load images, whether you have it set to or not. Setting to higher image quality doesn't really do anything, either. It loads some images, but not many. I've also found that 'Jump directly to main text part' totally screws up the application. I couldn't get it to load any pages with that option selected.

So basically, it has waaaay less settings than PocketWeb and none of them really work. But all in all, they don't bother me. I don't exactly hop on my phone for a graphically-enhanced browsing experience. Today I sat in a dull meeting, browsing newzbin, SU, Sephora (shut up, I'm a girl), GMail & Slashdot; my bosses thought I was checking my work email. Ha. Right.

Basically, I see Opera (Low, at least--can't speak for Opera Hi) as a poorly tested, failure of an application. Seriously. If you read this thread from beginning to end, it truly should not have been released the way it is. But I'm glad it was. Only reason I get on Vision now is to use WAP-only sites. 'Tis all. Opera Low, as much as it sucks, really is a pleasure to use. To be fair, though, it wasn't made for us. It's only been officially released for those Nordic countries. So maybe, when and if America gets its own version, it will function better.

[michelle]

wow. i have to applaud you all for your tenacity! :clap:

[laursifer]

Well, how's this...

I just decided to give OperaHi another try, because I love the look of it so much better than OperaLow (was looking at the screen shots on opera.com). And, what do you know, it works.

I uploaded with Gtoal, and had it send it to a custom folder that I titled "OperaHi." I did this because I was hoping it would stop it from overwriting the version of OperaLow that I'm running. Well, that didn't work... but OperaHi is working just fine! Browsed to five different pages and so far it's chugging along just fine.

The settings on the Hi version seem to actually work. It does load images, and the Higher Image Quality setting actually works. Also, there's a Smooth Text setting that's not in the Low version.

[castaway-]

i dunno why it hasnt worked for me in the past few days but today opera hi started working i got an lg535 man im loving this browser awesome !

[dchec2100]

Well, how's this...

I just decided to give OperaHi another try, because I love the look of it so much better than OperaLow (was looking at the screen shots on opera.com). And, what do you know, it works.


Are able to successfully browse the wap version of these forums? (sorry, I don't have the URL handy)? I was unable to get past the main page, however the normal forum site works fine more me (there's just more junk to weed through)...

[harris]

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I was actually able to logon to my yahoo account and read my e-mail.

[laursifer]

Are able to successfully browse the wap version of these forums? (sorry, I don't have the URL handy)? I was unable to get past the main page, however the normal forum site works fine more me (there's just more junk to weed through)...


No, I can't browse the WAP forum. It (SU) will only let you browse that if it sees you are browsing from your phone; the Opera browser effectively removes that from their sight, which is why you can only read the WAP portal introduction as it appears when you read it from your computer.

I actually like that I can browse the forum non-WAP style! :) I always hated having to browse post-by-post.

[reptilerick]

I have been using the hi-res vs. for a couple of days now. This app rocks. Not only can I check all my e-mail accts, but I can go to my myspace page and also check out all the other forums that I belong to.

[cerebasan]

The settings on the Hi version seem to actually work. It does load images, and the Higher Image Quality setting actually works. Also, there's a Smooth Text setting that's not in the Low version.
:indiff: Ok now I'm embarassed. I guess I've been running the HI version this whole time, cause I have the hi-qual image options and the smooth text setting. And here I was just about to try to install what I thought was the HI version....probably would have messed things up...
Muh hat's off ta ya ms. Laurisfer :music:

[Tigrrre]

dont be embarrased, i cant run any of them. :p

[cegil]

1) got it fixed, took out those trial apps that I don't use
and rebooted, thus freeing up some memory and finally up
and running lo version on PM-8200,
running parallel (for comparision) with WebViewer now,
but may try the hi version later, huh?

2) FYI - at http://www.foreignword.com there is a free online
translator that you can use to translate text from
norwegian to english.

[Ramon197B]

Help, How do i get Opera Mini on my PM-8200? :confused:

[laursifer]

Help, How do i get Opera Mini on my PM-8200? :confused:


Download it here (I believe you would need the low version):
http://felipecn.innereyes.com/2005/08/download-opera-mini/

Change to English this way (or by pressing #8 and following the last step):
http://sprintusers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=757848&postcount=70

[viddywell]

Anyone else have this issue/find a workaround?

I loaded OperaHi on my 535. Starts fine, loads the first address I out in fine.. but after that.. no matter what link I click or what address I enter, the app goes through the motions of loading a site, but instead only refreshes the current page. There seems to be no way to go to anything beside one site without restarting the app completely.

A long shot I suppose, but what is the version number/size listed for those of you that have managed to get Hi to work. Mine is 1.0.0/108K

[MacPCS]

don't ***** too much about it being useless, it's not been released in the 'states yet, calm down. why do you think it's not been released yet? it doesn't work properly!

simmer down and wait a while before you go all nutsy over this.

[laursifer]

Anyone else have this issue/find a workaround?

I loaded OperaHi on my 535. Starts fine, loads the first address I out in fine.. but after that.. no matter what link I click or what address I enter, the app goes through the motions of loading a site, but instead only refreshes the current page. There seems to be no way to go to anything beside one site without restarting the app completely.

A long shot I suppose, but what is the version number/size listed for those of you that have managed to get Hi to work. Mine is 1.0.0/108K


Why don't you try reading the rest of this thread (you can actually start around page 6 or so) and you'll find plenty of information. Including the fact that near everyone had this same problem.

[Ramon197B]

Download it here (I believe you would need the low version):
http://felipecn.innereyes.com/2005/08/download-opera-mini/

Change to English this way (or by pressing #8 and following the last step):
http://sprintusers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=757848&postcount=70


thanks, but download where: Computer then send it to my phone or download through my phone? Because i go to that site on my PM-8200 and there no link to download something. :Popcorn2:

[laursifer]

Oops. Sorry about that. Download the JAD and JAR files to your computer and upload them using Gtoal:

http://www.gtoal.com/pcs/

[Ramon197B]

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Oops. Sorry about that. Download the JAD and JAR files to your computer and upload them using Gtoal:

http://www.gtoal.com/pcs/

Thanks

[KevC84]

Is there a version of the Opera Browser for the Palm OS? I really want to get it for my Treo 650?

[laursifer]

They have it for Windows Mobile... and Symbian phones. You could download the trials to see if they work, I guess.

http://opera.com/products/mobile/

[Stevecccc]

Here are some direct links for Opera for Palm:

http://mytreo.net/downloads/details-838.html?Opera_Mini_-_HiFi

http://mytreo.net/downloads/details-839.html?Opera_Mini_-_LoFi

[KevC84]

Thanks I will install and try it out.

[liquilife]

Hey folks, I found a working version of Opera Mini that works on my MM8300 just perfectly. This is a great browser! I grabbed the .jad and .jar from http://www.**********.com/forums/rpost.pl?b=apps,m=1130311504 and uploaded it at http://www.gtoal.com/pcs/upload.php

The only thing I haven't figured out is when entering an address I can't seem to find any options to switch to symbols or suffixes to enter in .com (Edit: the number one toggles the commonly used special symbols..)

[dchec2100]

Hmm... what version is this? I'm running the high version where to enter symbols it's the soft "menu" key, then option 4.

[liquilife]

It's Opera Mini, Hi-Fi v. 1.0.1520, build 20050823

I get one soft key (the left one) while looking at a URL, It is menu. When I select it I get:
Enter address
Bookmarks
Start Page
Tools
Exit

If I go to "Enter Address" the two soft keys are left: Back and right:Menu . Menu consists of:
1. Previous address
2. Clear
3. Ok

The star button I found toggles between lowercase alpha, uppercase alpha, numbers and then a symbol select page. The 1 button just repeats through the common symbols.

I hope all that makes sense :)

[laursifer]

Hmmm... that's strange. The 1 button toggles certain symbols no matter where you're typing (address book, text, Vision, etc.).

I would suggest downloading this version: http://felipecn.innereyes.com/2005/08/download-opera-mini/

I think you would need the low version, but you should have more luck with that one as far as symbols and whatnot. Seems like the one you're currently using might even be more stripped than the low version in that link.

[liquilife]

I tried your download link and it just left me with a version that doesn't work with the issues of never correctly loading new pages and so on. Strange but true, the only way i can use this is if I use your download link, set it to english and then download the hi-fi version and overwrite the old lo-fi version. After this the hi-fi version appears to work ok.

I also checked out the version of your download link and it was the same as mine.. I dunno. It's not a final release so I guess wierd bugs are likely to show up...

[laursifer]

Yeah. We had, well, about 13 pages of weird bugs. :p

My Opera Mini experience went from hi version not working, trying low and it worked, and then I installed hi over top of low and it worked. We did spend a lot of the time trying to figure out how to set it to English, however--and then a lot of time trying to figure out the cached page problem. Since then, it's been a hit or miss experience for everyone.

The symbol thing you're experiencing is weird, but I guess that could somehow be more your phone than the application... I guess. Doesn't make much sense to me but that doesn't say much. ;)

[liquilife]

Yes, I discovered that installing the lo-fi, setting it to english and then installing the hi-fi version over that gave me a working browser, same as you.

After some playing around the asterik (*) button toggles upper alpha, lower alpha, numeric, and symbol entries. When it toggles to the symbol entries I get a window that pops up with all the symobls to select from. It's there, just a bit different then how my phone usually displays different text entries.

13 pages of bugs? More like 16 pages :) I use the Opera browser for my PC and it's the best by far, I can't wait until they fine-tune their minibrowser to a completion.

[eppitek]

what would be the best one to get (site, hi / lo, etc) for a 7400 as of now.. and is it too buggy to be really useful so far

[liquilife]

I don't know which versions are better for which phones but from what I can see the only difference between hi and low is the amount of "skin" applied to the application. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Once I got it to work on my phone it seems to be bug free...

Personally I have only been albe to get the hi-fi version to work on my Sanyo MM8300.

[SL-10]

I am posting this post using Opera Hi-Fi version. All I can say is ..WOW!.. it works.

[laursifer]

I don't know which versions are better for which phones but from what I can see the only difference between hi and low is the amount of "skin" applied to the application. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.


I had posted earlier about this. I used the Low version for probably 4 or 5 days before deciding to give the Hi version another try. The differences, basically, are all aesthetics. I love the way Opera Hi looks and I think Opera Low looks pretty crappy. However, there are also minor operatibility differences.

When you're in the Settings section, you only have about 3 choices on the Low version (aside from language settings): Load images, Higher image quality & Jump directly to main text. On the Hi version, you have those plus an additional option to Smooth font. The main difference here being that the Low version doesn't like to load images and none of the settings seem to do anything at all. The Hi version is the complete opposite--images load, higher image quality works & jump to main text works as well (whereas, on the Low version, it wouldn't load a page at all with that option checked).

Also, on the Low version, the Menu was the right soft key (even though the menu itself would still pop up on the left); on the Hi version it's the left soft key and also pops up on the left. You also get the date displayed on the Hi version, which is a missing feature on the Low.

When it comes down to it, the differences are all pretty minor, but you can't deny that the Hi version is so much sexier.

[liquilife]

I had posted earlier about this. I used the Low version for probably 4 or 5 days before deciding to give the Hi version another try. The differences, basically, are all aesthetics. I love the way Opera Hi looks and I think Opera Low looks pretty crappy. However, there are also minor operatibility differences.
Probably lost in the 16 pages of replies ;)

Ahh thanks. Being that I could not even get the lo-fi version to work correctly I never was able to discover any of that. What you said makes sense. Every feature you mentioned would consume that much more memory.

The hi-fi version is indeed a sleek and sexy layout. I've got a crimson red MM8300 and the Opera mini hi-fi red color scheme compliments the phone damn well. I probably shouldn't decide my phone software by looks alone.. but damnit it looks so nice.

The opera mini is the first phone browser I've used that can parse down just about any page to something useable. I've disabled images as they seem to be more of a distraction with large page headers and such. I can actually pull up my fantasy football page and make sense of the tabular data, albeit a lot of scrolling, and make minor team adjustments. It seems Opera mini is able to display columns as rows which prevents 2 or 3 columns squeezing in on that small screen space. Compare that to other browsers which end up displaying 1 or 2 characters per row in 3 columns side by side.

I think I am quickly growing dependent on this phone browser.. even in it's beta status. It's gotta be because of the sleek design and not my addiction to information-anytime... right? :)

[laursifer]

Another cool feature you might like, pointed out to me by dchec, is that the left and right D-pad buttons scroll by page. Verruh cool. :tu:

[liquilife]

Oh, nice. Nope, never new that! I'll have to give it a go.

Just noticed your South Park avatar, nice. :) Huge, huge SP fan myself. I've got my DVR stuffed with recorded SP episodes, I can never get enough.

[michelob]

Is pocketweb better than Blazer on the 650?

[michelob]

Ok, I KNOW this is a dumb question, but I'm new to all this new fangled techno babble! :confused: Is the 650 and EVDO phone? If not will the expected Cobalt Treo be an EVDO phone.

Also, heard from an inside source that Sprint is supposedly going to make all users switch to nextel type phones. Figured this would happen, but not for a while. My source says within the next 9-12 months.

Sorry to get off track...:rant:

[a_c_s]

Ok, I KNOW this is a dumb question, but I'm new to all this new fangled techno babble! :confused: Is the 650 and EVDO phone? If not will the expected Cobalt Treo be an EVDO phone.

Also, heard from an inside source that Sprint is supposedly going to make all users switch to nextel type phones. Figured this would happen, but not for a while. My source says within the next 9-12 months.

Sorry to get off track...:rant:

No, the Treo 650 is not an EVDO phone...not sure on the Cobalt...as for the other stuff, I'm pretty sure your source is wrong...Sprint has no plans to make Sprint customers move over to Nextel phones...quite to the contrary, the rumors I've heard are about Sprint designing a dual network phone that will bridge Sprint to Nextel...the real key is the direct connect...as far as internet and multimedia, Sprint is so far ahead of Nextel, it wouldn't make any sense for them to force customers to go backwards...

[michelob]

Ok...dumb question #2...since I'm new to this, what would I use the jar or jad file? and do I access it directly from my phone or on my pc then load?

[michelob]

Thanks, for that...I looked at the info on the link and it said we needed to have Java installed. Sorry to be so dense, but is Java alread installed on the 650 or do we have to get it. If so, from where?

[laursifer]

Ok...dumb question #2...since I'm new to this, what would I use the jar or jad file? and do I access it directly from my phone or on my pc then load?

Both the JAR & the JAD and you can use this uploader: http://www.gtoal.com/pcs/

[a_c_s]

Thanks to the tips towards the end of this thread, I now have Opera Mini working on my 5600 and it is AWESOME...I installed the low res, changed language to English, then installed the hi-res version over it, and it made all the difference in the world...I was able to log into a bank account and a fantasy football site that the regular built-in browser could never handle...I've been bummed for months that I had missed the opportunity to get webviewer while it was still for sale (luckily I have and love emailviewer), but I have to say Opera really does blow it away, especially for a free app...

[laursifer]

Thanks to the tips towards the end of this thread...


Yeah... let this serve as a notice to any newcomers: you can ignore at least the first ten pages. :p

Glad you got it working. I'm really lovin' it in meetings and stuff. Wooo.

[SL-10]

If Opera Mini had copy/paste and OCR abilities this would really make it the idea browser for mobiles.