Verizon gets the RAZR

[ConceptVBS]

Too bad Sprint.

http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=694927&page=5&pp=15

[joshua_g_perez]

Since verizon is getting the razor does that mean that Sprint will get the Samsung razor like phone? :)

[gsmith462]

Too bad Sprint.

http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=694927&page=5&pp=15
VistaWireless.net is under construction and I see nothing on phonescoop for the CDMA razer.

[CoreyTheGent]

Since verizon is getting the razor does that mean that Sprint will get the Samsung razor like phone? :)Nope. Verizon's getting both of them. They're already in testing.

[PrettyHairShawn]

I hate the new red interface with Verizon now.

[Freak4Dell]

Couldn't you just buy a Verizon phone without the contract and activate it on Sprint?

[CoreyTheGent]

No, you can't.

You Sprint folks need to calm down. You'll get a variant of either the V3c or the Samsung Slim.

[j13jjs]

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[vporter]

Just when I've settled my decision to stay with sprint.

[Bklyn295]

I feel you on that porter

[Silverdale_man]

With all the phones that are goin to come out...I would think this is goin to be the least talked about. Its old...its a motorola..and well its OLD. Id much rather hear bout super camera phones with optical zooms..and all that good stuff, Not a old moto that has a WAK looking UI ..like all the other newer verizon phones. There are much better phones in the sea then this.

[fl00d_pr0z]

Cameras with optical zooms.... IMO sure a camera on a phone is fine, but I don't need a 2MP camera on my cell. I have a good digital camera if I want to take quality pics. What is out now, is pretty much fine for casual quick pictures.

[CoreyTheGent]

With all the phones that are goin to come out...I would think this is goin to be the least talked about...It's actually the exact opposite and will be the most talked about out of every impending CDMA release for 2005. The only thing that could top it is perhaps the 5mp Samsung phone, but I don't personally see that coming until 2006 at the earliest.

[Quill]

Especially since it will have the higher res camera, not the VGA camera the GSM version has and IIRC, more memory.
As much as people hate the hype surrounding the phone, it's got staying power, kindof like the Live Strong arm bands ... it's gotten so popular that not only do a lot of people have the phone now, but there are imitators, I mean competitors on the horizon.
Of course, by the time you CDMA folks get it, I'll have the Nokia 6682. Ha!

Yes, I do sometimes post just to annoy you. ;)

[CoreyTheGent]

Yep. The Razr surpassed gimmick a few stops back. It is now severely close to becoming apart of American culture overall, just like the iPod. Once it crushes the Samsung Slim, its position will be solidified.

[FloorMatt]

Yep. The Razr surpassed gimmick a few stops back. It is now severely close to becoming apart of American culture overall, just like the iPod. Once it crushes the Samsung Slim, its position will be solidified.

Sometimes Corey.......you make me cry. :(

Stupid RAZR......stupid VZW. All I gotta say is.......CRIPPLED Bluetooth! (or none at all?) :lol:

Now, Sprint better get the SLIM....I'll pay whatever price they ask....maybe.

[jaytv]

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That statement smells like Tutu bait to me, Corey.

[Quill]

Maybe ... but, he did say it over in the Cingular Phone Subforum, too. I don't think tutu hangs out over there.

[Jake]

I am SO excited about this phone! I saw on hofo that many people thought it would go to Verizon/Alltel/US Cellular!!! :clap:

[joshua_g_perez]

Man that sucks. Well hopefully since the merger was approved maybe Motorola will bring Sprint the itunes phone.

[brose]

Sanyo had the first "Razr" type phone with the first ulta thin phone in the US. They should make a new 6400 type phone that kicks the Razr's *****.

[Ovaltine224]

the Razr is the biggest piece of crap ever invented. its just slim. thats all it is. nothin more unique about it. no speakerphone or video recording. the Razr is wack compared to my 535. im stickin wit sprint in da long run

[PSkinny121]

I hope this phone achieves the cult status that the iPod and LiveStrong bracelets enjoy so I can boycott it as well. Just like Jurassic Park, Titanic (still haven't seen it), capri pants (stopped seeing a girl once cause she wore them, though that was like back in '97), and all the other crap that I deem too "in" to be a part of, I will NEVER own a RAZR, even if it comes to Sprint and costs $0.00. I can't stand it, it is hideous, and should be discontinued before it even comes out. Garbage :)

[Deval]

best of luck with that....after using one, I would rather stick with my 535

[jaytv]

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Tutu is everywhere. I mean, have you seen how many forums the guy is a member of? He is just obsessed with the gospel according to Samsung. Check any forum having anything to do with mobile phones, and he's there...its kind of spooky sometimes!

[CoolJB]

the Razr is the biggest piece of crap ever invented. its just slim. thats all it is. nothin more unique about it. no speakerphone or video recording. the Razr is wack compared to my 535. im stickin wit sprint in da long run

Word! I played with a co-worker's Cingular Razr and I was not impressed at all. It felt flimsy, the buttons were hard to press, and worst of all, the sound quality (earpiece) was HORRENDOUS! At any volume, it crackled and distorted like it was turned up too loud, and it was pretty weak overall. Don't know if it's indicative of all of them, but suffice it to say I was extremely underwhelmed.

[fonefreak]

I hope sprint will sell the RAZR.. :fingers: Man gotta love this phone.

[Ovaltine224]

I hope this phone achieves the cult status that the iPod and LiveStrong bracelets enjoy so I can boycott it as well. Just like Jurassic Park, Titanic (still haven't seen it), capri pants (stopped seeing a girl once cause she wore them, though that was like back in '97), and all the other crap that I deem too "in" to be a part of, I will NEVER own a RAZR, even if it comes to Sprint and costs $0.00. I can't stand it, it is hideous, and should be discontinued before it even comes out. Garbage :)

haha dumpin a girl for capri pants?!? thats awesome dude. yur like seinfeld. any im with you on trash like the iPod and Razr getting recogniton for no apparent reason.

[Jake]

I hope this phone achieves the cult status that the iPod and LiveStrong bracelets enjoy so I can boycott it as well. Just like Jurassic Park, Titanic (still haven't seen it), capri pants (stopped seeing a girl once cause she wore them, though that was like back in '97), and all the other crap that I deem too "in" to be a part of, I will NEVER own a RAZR, even if it comes to Sprint and costs $0.00. I can't stand it, it is hideous, and should be discontinued before it even comes out. Garbage :)

I'm not trying to offend you, but I find it odd that you feel the need to rebel against fashion and trends so much that would not even give a potentionally awesome phone a chance. :indiff:

[mcurtiss1970]

"trash like the iPod"? i guess there's a reason why 15 year old's opinions don't govern what I buy.

[Quill]

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Tutu is everywhere. I mean, have you seen how many forums the guy is a member of? He is just obsessed with the gospel according to Samsung. Check any forum having anything to do with mobile phones, and he's there...its kind of spooky sometimes!

Hahahaha...this is true. He is at HoFo ... he even ventures into the Cingular forum sometimes and gets a smackdown. But, I've not seen him lurking in the phones subforum since it was created.

the Razr is the biggest piece of crap ever invented. its just slim. thats all it is. nothin more unique about it. no speakerphone or video recording. the Razr is wack compared to my 535. im stickin wit sprint in da long run

Just a quick correction. It does have speakerphone. And fully functioning BT. Any Sprint phones have that in the current lineup?

I don't miss video recording. I had two different phones with video recording over the course of 18 months...between the two phones I used the feature three times. So for me, it's not an issue.
And being that I actually own one, I can say with first-hand knowledge it is a very good phone. No, it's not a fully featured, bleeding edge gadget geek phone. I've had those and were bored by them when it came to a point where I just wanted to make a freaking phone call.

Besides, the CDMA version is going to have features like a higher res cam and probably video recording. But, hey, if you're happy with your LG MM535, more power to you, because that's the beauty of diversity and competition.

Meanwhile, I'll be scoping out the phones my brother is going to send me from Germany.

[Ovaltine224]

"trash like the iPod"? i guess there's a reason why 15 year old's opinions don't govern what I buy.

actually im 16 and a half lol

and the iPod is soo bogus. there is so many other players that are wayyy better. any Nomad Zen could top the ipod in sound quality and what not. the only thing the ipods got goin for it is the wheel.

[mcurtiss1970]

actually im 16 and a half lol

and the iPod is soo bogus. there is so many other players that are wayyy better. any Nomad Zen could top the ipod in sound quality and what not. the only thing the ipods got goin for it is the wheel.

i actually own the zen touch, so i agree with you that it has superior sound over many players. but the ipod is king for having the best integrated music store....bar none....not to mention a pretty simple and intuitive interface.

there are so many electronic devices that are "all sizzle and no steak" (most cellphones included)...the iPod just isn't one of them.

[Ovaltine224]

Hahahaha...this is true. He is at HoFo ... he even ventures into the Cingular forum sometimes and gets a smackdown. But, I've not seen him lurking in the phones subforum since it was created.



Just a quick correction. It does have speakerphone. And fully functioning BT. Any Sprint phones have that in the current lineup?

I don't miss video recording. I had two different phones with video recording over the course of 18 months...between the two phones I used the feature three times. So for me, it's not an issue.
And being that I actually own one, I can say with first-hand knowledge it is a very good phone. No, it's not a fully featured, bleeding edge gadget geek phone. I've had those and were bored by them when it came to a point where I just wanted to make a freaking phone call.

Besides, the CDMA version is going to have features like a higher res cam and probably video recording. But, hey, if you're happy with your LG MM535, more power to you, because that's the beauty of diversity and competition.

Meanwhile, I'll be scoping out the phones my brother is going to send me from Germany.


well its all in the perference of the consumer

[Quill]

well its all in the perference of the consumer

Exactly! See, I'm cool with you not wanting a RAZR. I'm already getting annoyed by the fact that I'm seeing more people with it. Heh. But, the only phones out there that are truly pieces of crap are Kyoceras and the Motorola T720. Heh.

I was inches away from buying a Samsung P777, but the minute the price dropped on the RAZR, I had to have it. And after comparing sound quality on test calls, I'm glad I bought the Moto. There was this constant buzzing in the background, not as bad as my old a620, but it was still a Sammy hiss.

Still, much as I love this phone, it's not going to last more than six months. That's just how I am. I'm torn between the SE W800 or the Nokia 6682. Who knows if either will make me happy...at least I know my RAZR will do what I really need it to do...make phone calls and send text messages.

Who needs a signal when they have a cool phone? Heh.

BTW, I love my iPod. I looked at the Zen and the Dell DJ, but, I just had to have an iPod. I just didn't like the others as much. Crazy, I know. I'm just a simpleton. With *****in' Sony noise-cancelling headphones. That helps. Heh.

[Deval]

:lol: admit it...you are a moto fan girl

[PSkinny121]

I'm not trying to offend you, but I find it odd that you feel the need to rebel against fashion and trends so much that would not even give a potentionally awesome phone a chance. :indiff:

Eh, I've held one in my hand, I've used it, I can firmly say it is WAY overrated. I think the funnier thing is that I declined to give a potentially cool girl a chance, lol, I think back on that sometimes and wonder. It was very Seinfeld of me. As for the iPod, it is just too promoted, I can't stand hearing about it, so the last thing I want is to own one. I'd rather get a Nomad or Dell Jukebox or Rio.

Like Chuck D said: "Don't believe the hype."

[Ced91071]

Eh, I've held one in my hand, I've used it, I can firmly say it is WAY overrated. I think the funnier thing is that I declined to give a potentially cool girl a chance, lol, I think back on that sometimes and wonder. It was very Seinfeld of me. As for the iPod, it is just too promoted, I can't stand hearing about it, so the last thing I want is to own one. I'd rather get a Nomad or Dell Jukebox or Rio.

Like Chuck D said: "Don't believe the hype."

YEAHHHHHH BOYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

[Quill]

:lol: admit it...you are a moto fan girl

Alright, alright, you got me. LOL After using Sanyos, Motos are a breath of fresh air. But, like I said, by Christmas, I'll have a new toy, possibly two, depending on how quick I get a couple bills paid off next month. And it's unlikely either will be Motos. I'm seriously eyeing that Nokia 6682. I'd have to sell my Palm T|C though.

Or there's that HTC Wizard I've seen on engadget. Holy slide out qwerty keyboards, batman...me likey. Gosh, I need help.

My name is quill and I'm a phone-a-holic.

[Deval]

Alright, alright, you got me. LOL After using Sanyos, Motos are a breath of fresh air. But, like I said, by Christmas, I'll have a new toy, possibly two, depending on how quick I get a couple bills paid off next month. And it's unlikely either will be Motos. I'm seriously eyeing that Nokia 6682. I'd have to sell my Palm T|C though.

Or there's that HTC Wizard I've seen on engadget. Holy slide out qwerty keyboards, batman...me likey. Gosh, I need help.

My name is quill and I'm a phone-a-holic.

yeah if I liked PPCs, I would consider something like that

[Quill]

Yeah, the slide-out keyboard is nice for messaging. I wish the LG F9100 wasn't such a crappy device. Woulda been nice to have for messaging.

I'm not sure about a Pocket PC, either. I'm a Palm OS girl. LOL

[vporter]

Alright, alright, you got me. LOL After using Sanyos, Motos are a breath of fresh air.... My name is quill and I'm a phone-a-holic


Anything after a Sanyo is a breath of fresh air!!

Welcome to the group...there's standing room in the back :p

[Deval]

I *heart* quill :)

yeah I would like to try out PPCs though...but its too much of a phone for my blood

[sprintsung]

Only reason id ever care to see it come to sprint is so i can stop seeing posts about some cheapass who complains that they broke their 100 year old black STARTAC and dont want to buy a new phone. Mebbe with a new MOTO they might actually upgrade to a new phone they can carry for the next 10 years...... again.

[sammyrocks]

I hope sprint will sell the RAZR.. :fingers: Man gotta love this phone.


no, no I don't

[fonefreak]

have u tried it?

[Guy]

I personally would like to see the Slim Samsung come to Sprint rather than the RAZR anyway. I wouldn't even think of buying a RAZR, a slim sammy on the other hand...I'd give it much consideration.

[tuolumne]

Bah...Let Verizon get the crippled Moto.

Let's see that black Samsung please :fingers:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/tuolumne01/indexbig.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/tuolumne01/index112.jpg

[Quill]

At least you know what you want, Guy ... I can't ever decide. It's takes me about a month to decide to buy a phone. I am so neurotic.

[Quill]

Very flat, tu ... what are the specs on the screen? How big is it, resolution, etc?

[fonefreak]

man..that looks sweet.

[tuolumne]

Very flat, tu ... what are the specs on the screen? How big is it, resolution, etc?

2.1" 320x240 QVGA 262K TFT

[FloorMatt]

Me and Guy are getting that thing.......it's a done deal! :) And, according to Anycall.....it has that Flash UI.

[Jake]

2.1" 320x240 QVGA 262K TFT

That sounds SO good. :wavey:

[Felicia]

2.1" 320x240 QVGA 262K TFT


What about the camera? 1MP?

[tuolumne]

1.3 CMOS

[FloorMatt]

http://www.anycall.com/i_world/i_view/view_detail_2005.jsp?PFID=SCH-V740&page=1&real=feature&sar=

That page might work.

Mmm SLIM

[Jake]

http://www.anycall.com/i_world/i_view/view_detail_2005.jsp?PFID=SCH-S270&page=1&real=feature&sar=
look familiar? The keypad looks VERY pink there.... but it has infrared!

[He123321]

The way SPCS is, I can't see any slim phone comming our way. :irked:

[behindTHEscenes]

Just when I've settled my decision to stay with sprint.

Same here... lol lately ive been really wanting verizon. Just as a renewed my 2 yr contract AHHH. Verizon has lots of EVDO coverage already working here where i live. But I've got high hopes for Sprint. I really think that after the merger their phones will step it up and EVDO coverage from Sprint is supposed to be available here in a few weeks! Plus- Sprint is the only service that gets coverage in the math wing at my school! :clap:

[behindTHEscenes]

http://www.anycall.com/i_world/i_view/view_detail_2005.jsp?PFID=SCH-S270&page=1&real=feature&sar=
look familiar? The keypad looks VERY pink there.... but it has infrared!

Haha!! Thats funnyyyy! Is AnyCall the name of a cell network over there or something? I see AnyCall on A LOT of stuff.

[fonefreak]

Anycall is samsung..

[ConceptVBS]

Anycall is a subbrand of Samsung's mobile phone line.

[tuolumne]

It's their "luxury" line of handsets for their homemarket of S. Korea only.

[tuolumne]

Hahahaha...this is true. He is at HoFo ... he even ventures into the Cingular forum sometimes and gets a smackdown. But, I've not seen him lurking in the phones subforum since it was created.

Just for you Quill...

http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=697973

[behindTHEscenes]

Anycall is samsung..
Anycall is a subbrand of Samsung's mobile phone line.
It's their "luxury" line of handsets for their homemarket of S. Korea only.

Well that clears up A LOT!!! lol Thanks all of you.

[ConceptVBS]

It's their "luxury" line of handsets for their homemarket of S. Korea only.

China has it as well.

[danny.boi]

Same here... lol lately ive been really wanting verizon. Just as a renewed my 2 yr contract AHHH. Verizon has lots of EVDO coverage already working here where i live. But I've got high hopes for Sprint. I really think that after the merger their phones will step it up and EVDO coverage from Sprint is supposed to be available here in a few weeks! Plus- Sprint is the only service that gets coverage in the math wing at my school! :clap:



You can always change math classes or schools? Just kidding.
:)

[tuolumne]

China has it as well.

Learn something new everyday.

[New91]

China has it as well.
It`s also in a cell phone stores in Flushing, Queens near the places where all the Asians are. BTW, they were selling plasma tv`s on the street like people be selling bootleg DVD`s here in BRooklyn. :lol:

[sammyrocks]

have u tried it?


yes i have, and don't get me started ;)

[Jake]

yes i have, and don't get me started ;)

What don't you like about it? Keep in mind the CDMA version could be much different.

[olsen469]

personally, i think motorola cell phones are crap.


i know someone with the gsm razr and they say its nothing great....the service is just as great as any other phone

[tuolumne]

What don't you like about it? Keep in mind the CDMA version could be much different.

yes, very different with a terrible Verizon-ized UI, and thicker profile/camera....a lot different.

[Jake]

yes, very different with a terrible Verizon-ized UI, and thicker profile/camera....a lot different.

Is it thicker than the SLIM? I like the looks of the Sammy better because there is no hump at the bottom... Alltel and US Cellular are getting it so it won't have that red stuff for me :clap: But I want the Sammmmmy!

[bluecoyote]

I would say "Lucky Verizon Owners" but... Verizon forced their own crappy UI on it.

Holy cow is Verizon out of line with every consumer want?

[The Lance]

I gotta admit ther was a time where I did want the CDMA RAZR but so many people have it now and I dont even remotely wants what everyone else has its the same with Ipods people have.. I dont know whats so great about it..and lets not start on Ipods agian I just brought it up as a point..

[Jake]

People want the RAZR because its like a fashion statement, they think it looks expensive so people will think they are somebody if they have one.

[PrettyHairShawn]

It is a fashion statement, Motorola knows it market it as a fashion statement. The new RAZR commerical about it coming in black shows a girl coordinating a black RAZR with her outfit.

[Jake]

It is a fashion statement, Motorola knows it market it as a fashion statement. The new RAZR commerical about it coming in black shows a girl coordinating a black RAZR with her outfit.

Black goes with everything.

[ConceptVBS]

Black goes with everything.


Thats why its my favorite color.

:music:

[Jake]

Black and white looks good and plaid is back in too! :clap:
But stay away from stripes :lol:

[danny.boi]

I would say "Lucky Verizon Owners" but... Verizon forced their own crappy UI on it.

Holy cow is Verizon out of line with every consumer want?


Most people will not care. Some will, but most won't. Those who do will get over it.

I think VZW's quarterly numbers show that many people have wants and/or priorities not always vocalized on these mobile phone forums.

From a business standpoint, this makes perfect sense. One interface used regardless of phone is easier to support. An easier support process means troubletickets are handled faster and tech support wait times are not as long.

As people switch phones, they will not have to learn new interfaces.

Firmware and software equipment will work more efficiently.

This all equates to happy customers, low churn rates, and increased customer loyalty. VZW, like Sprint is a business when it's all said and done.

[Quill]

Just for you Quill...

http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=697973

OMG, you slay me. Even with photos with the Cingular splat logo on the sub LCD. It's fugly though.

Just for you, tu, I got a Samsung c207 ... hahahaha. But seriously, I did buy one off HoFo. First time in two months I've cheated on my RAZR. Heh.


As for the rest of the folks belaboring the point that the RAZR is featureless, may I remind you the fully-functioning Bluetooth is wonderful. Oh, and the phones I've used that had more features were pretty crappy phones. So, I will take a boring, featureless gimmicky phone that actually works over some bleeding edge, gadget phone that can barely pull a signal anyday.

Unless it's that HTC Wizard. Me likey. Mmmm, slide out QWERTY keyboard .... gggaaaahhddddggggg.

Okay, let's face it, I just like phones. My sister was making fun of me recently saying 'I don't need a new phone every two months like some *coughcoughkriscoughcough* people.' And I said, 'It is so not every two months.'

Crap. It is ... so ... every ... two ... months. Cingular, eight months, four phones. That means I'll have two more phones by Christmas.

I wonder if there's a cell phone clinic ... you know, a place where they give you dummy phones to play with as you slowly wean off the addiction to the real thing.

[tuolumne]

OMG, you slay me. Even with photos with the Cingular splat logo on the sub LCD. It's fugly though.

Just for you, tu, I got a Samsung c207 ... hahahaha. But seriously, I did buy one off HoFo. First time in two months I've cheated on my RAZR. Heh.

I must say, members in the Cingular forum seem to be very friendly, and appreciative. I commend you all :)

Anyways, the C207? That phone is uber-small...Put it up to the A800...HA!!!

[Quill]

I must say, members in the Cingular forum seem to be very friendly, and appreciative. I commend you all :)

Anyways, the C207? That phone is uber-small...Put it up to the A800...HA!!!

It was $35. A temporary fix until my birthday. I don't know what my next toy will be.
Yes, it is uber small. My husband said it's so small, it's not itty bitty, just itty. Surprisingly, for a basic phone, I really like it. Gonna take it to the office with me tomorrow and see how it handles the metal fortress of doom. Heh.

The only people that are pricks are the folks from the Verizon forum that troll...but I digress.

If Verizon is getting the CDMA V3 and the Samsung Slim phone, what in the hell is Sprint gonna get to counterpoint that? Because it'll be a crying shame when the day comes that I actually say Verizon has a better lineup that Sprint. Oh, please Sprint folks, don't stone me for blasphemy. ;)

[tuolumne]

It was $35. A temporary fix until my birthday. I don't know what my next toy will be.
Yes, it is uber small. My husband said it's so small, it's not itty bitty, just itty. Surprisingly, for a basic phone, I really like it. Gonna take it to the office with me tomorrow and see how it handles the metal fortress of doom. Heh.

The only people that are pricks are the folks from the Verizon forum that troll...but I digress.

If Verizon is getting the CDMA V3 and the Samsung Slim phone, what in the hell is Sprint gonna get to counterpoint that? Because it'll be a crying shame when the day comes that I actually say Verizon has a better lineup that Sprint. Oh, please Sprint folks, don't stone me for blasphemy. ;)

oh I hear you.

As for what Sprint has to counteract that, they are getting that 5MP phone from Samsung in Q4, if not getting the Slim also...

[The Lance]

oh I hear you.

As for what Sprint has to counteract that, they are getting that 5MP phone from Samsung in Q4, if not getting the Slim also...


and how do you know this? because I doubt well get anything over 3mp on a phone over here..

[bluecoyote]

Most people will not care. Some will, but most won't. Those who do will get over it.

I think VZW's quarterly numbers show that many people have wants and/or priorities not always vocalized on these mobile phone forums.

From a business standpoint, this makes perfect sense. One interface used regardless of phone is easier to support. An easier support process means troubletickets are handled faster and tech support wait times are not as long.

As people switch phones, they will not have to learn new interfaces.

Firmware and software equipment will work more efficiently.

This all equates to happy customers, low churn rates, and increased customer loyalty. VZW, like Sprint is a business when it's all said and done.


A standardized UI sounds great, but have you used Verizon's UI? It's horrendous- the worst UI of ANY phone I've ever used period. If you're going to go with a standardized UI, go with Series 60, 40, or the Sony Ericsson UI, or a knockoff of any of the above. Frankly, look how many dissatisfied customers purchased the LG VX8100. Look at the class-action against the Motorola V710.

How many people on this forum took the UI into consideration when purchasing their handset? I surely did. My mom isn't a cell phone junkie, but she certainly did. How many people here have a preference for the phone's UI? Most of them. While SUsers aren't a majority, I doubt they're the only ones.

The VZW UI is not acceptable, and is another feather in the cap of unacceptable practices VZW is participating in. (Frankly, I think the FCC should be considering withdrawing their license to operate as a mobile provider.)

[FloorMatt]

Here's the 5.3 MP Samsung thread: http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71352

Fight thin with thick :cool:

[The Lance]

I've seen that thread.. and you can hold me to it.. I doubt we'll never see any of those phones in the US.. and trust me.. I even wish Im wrong.. but its 90% not gonna happen..

[tuolumne]

That's why Best Buy has told it's employees to expect a 5MP Samsung before the end of the year? Why Samsung told everybody on January 4th at CES that they would have a 5MP phone to your shores by years end?

We'll see, but I am optimistic that you are wrong...

[ssaifull]

is it just me, or does anyone else think they have to change that retro looking keypad on the samsung slim?

alltel, us cellular and verizon will likely end up getting the CDMA RAZR, just like they all got the moto v710. sprint has almost no chance, it's just not their cup of tea.

and oh yes, if i haven't said it before i reaaaaaaaaaally want the RAZR!

[The Lance]

We'll see, but I am optimistic that you are wrong...

yeah thanks for editing that.. it did come off to be a bit untasteful..
Anyways back to the point.. The average standard for camera's these days are still
3.2 Megapixels because every store that sells camera's have more that size then anything else because it gets the job done.. having a cell phone that is higher then the standard doesn't make any sense.. I personally think its overkill to have that size of a camera on a phone because the pictures probably still aren't gonna look as great as a regular digital camera because they dont have the lenses for it with the exception of that 7.2 megapixel camera Samsung also has in their lineup..

And im the type of person thinks that anything over 5 mega pixels is overkill because human eyes cant even tell the difference so whats the point?

[tuolumne]

The size.

The S250s lens is still manufactured by Pentax...It yeilds amazing photos...

[ConceptVBS]

The size.

The S250s lens is still manufactured by Pentax...It yeilds amazing photos...

I dont think the S250's lens is manufactured by Pentax. The lens isnt optical its all digital.

I know for certain that the V7800, the 5.3MP and 3.2 MP (forgot the names) are manufactured by Pentax.

Samsung has in the works in its (R&D lab at Suwon) an optical zoom lens that doesnt have moving parts. It's still uncertain when they might incoporate it into their phones.

[danny.boi]

The VZW UI is not acceptable, and is another feather in the cap of unacceptable practices VZW is participating in. (Frankly, I think the FCC should be considering withdrawing their license to operate as a mobile provider.)

Imagine if VZW's fate was left to a bunch of SprintUsers.com members? Scary thought. :scare: Lose a license over an UI?

I do own a LG vx8100 and I purchased two others for other members of my family share plan. You get used to the UI.

I'm the only nerd out the bunch who is picky and finds fault with it. The other two think it's the greatest phone they've ever owned.

[Jake]

Is the UI very customizable? Does it have icons or is it plain and crappy?

[CoreyTheGent]

Jeez, tuolumne, how many times does ConceptVBS have to correct your mistakes? It's no telling what other garbage you've been spewing that he simply missed.

blue is correct, Verizon forcing that UI on us is an abomination. They will continue to get away with it, however. There won't be any lagging sales, no complaints outside of technology oriented people such as ourselves. That's precisely why they are doing it. Verizon is the smartest business in the industry, if the implementation of this UI was going to effect their bottom line then it wouldn't be happening. There were no mass returns of the VX-8100, just some people on the internet complaining (what's new?). That damn Bluetooth lawsuit didn't do jack, either. As I've said time and time again, that machine called Verizon Wireless cannot be stopped. The majority of their customers will love the new UI. They are also projected by at least two analysts to surpass Cingular as the #1 carrier by 2006 or 2007 if the current trend of their flawless quarters continue. I don't really read into that very much nor do I co-sign it being true, it's just yet another sign of how well VZW is doing.

1mm extra of thickness for the addition of an upgraded Qualcomm EV-DO chipset and 1.3mp camera (not to mention all the other crap that comes with CDMA) is better than anyone could've expected, including Motorola themselves most likely.

There will be a joint Verizon-Motorola campaign to help distinguish the current GSM Razr from the V3c. They've already taken steps toward this by offering it in that gunmetal color. If the Razr II is out by then, all the more better for Moto as it will create a halo effect. As I've said before, the V3c will see an advertising campaign like no other CDMA handset before it.

tuolumne is correct about the 5mp Samsung. There's no question that it's coming. Just a matter of when. And it's confirmed to most resemble the S250 pictured in his avatar at the moment. Of course, I'm just speaking for right now. As of this very moment. It's all subject to change, just like everything I say.

[danny.boi]

Is the UI very customizable? Does it have icons or is it plain and crappy?


You can change the color scheme but you can't get rid of the red lines which border the top and bottom of the screen.

You really get used to it and it doesn't bother you too much after a while. I'm used to it already. I can still add/remove wallpapers and add/remove gif's.

I don't think VZW will go broke over it and I don't think they'll lose their wireless license to sell wireless service over it either.

They are a growth machine and a phone manufacturer would be foolish to deny any special requests for customization. It's a big business world out there.

I believe Sprint already does this with charging ports am I wrong? Aren't they very similar if not the same for new phones?

Funny thing. I noticed the red lines right away. My parents, whom I purchased the other LG's for, didn't even comment on it but rather made reference to how nice the phone(s) looked to the eyes and how solid they felt.

[bluecoyote]

A UI is the least of Verizon's crimes as a provider.

It's a hideous UI- there's a row of 5 "tabs" that let you move between menus. Services are all relabeled for VZW uses. This means all sub-menu options are labeled under 5 lists instead of 9 or 12, so submenus are too large (these are high end phones, mind you.) Making matters worse, all services are rebranded for VZW ("Get FLIX") ("GET PIX") which is ridiculous.

I've used over 100 3G cell phones. Not a single one has a UI as bad. Not a single one.

I digress, did you know that my MM535 ($200.00 with new activation) has an Mp3 player? Did you know their 8100 doesn't? ($220.00 with new activation).

Manufacturer customization is a good thing at times- Sprint's charger setup is very nice and convenient. Sprint's picture mail integration is nothing short of fantastic and is tightly integrated.

Manufacturer 'communization' when it's not at the will of consumers (to which I think the UI, the crippling of bluetooth, the implementation of BREW over J2ME, the inability to send ringers / images to your phone, the crippling of the Mp3 player, and the inability to use the memory card to transfer your pictures.

[Jake]

No Mp3 player on it!? What!?!?!? Thats horrible! That and tranfering Pictures and the main uses of a card if not the only uses! :irked:

[CoreyTheGent]

The VX-8100 has an mp3 player, it's just crippled and not as capable as the E815's (playlists, etc.). I believe there's also chunks of the internal memory that can't be accessed. Verizon was going to launch this new music downloading service called "Music On Demand" with the VX-8100 being the flagship of this service. They crippled it ahead of time in order to force users to use Music On Demand. I'm not sure where MOD is at the moment, however. But there's talk of LG having an impending firmware upgrade that unlocks the VX-8100's mp3 player. For now, it helps explain why the E815 has consistently outsold it and has infact been Verizon's top selling handset overall for a few weeks now.

[fonefreak]

http://image.cetizen.com/index.php?img_no=gallery/200507/1121266787_79818.jpg

its a fake.. of course.

[Jake]

http://image.cetizen.com/index.php?img_no=gallery/200507/1121266787_79818.jpg

its a fake.. of course.
DEFINETLY my dream phone! Don't tease me! :bang:

[fonefreak]

guess who..

http://image.cetizen.com/index.php?img_no=gallery/200506/1118219442_45954.jpg

http://image.cetizen.com/index.php?img_no=gallery_500/200505/1117500109_58580.jpg

http://image.cetizen.com/index.php?img_no=gallery_500/200505/1117470161_1652423.jpg

http://image.cetizen.com/index.php?img_no=gallery_500/200508/1123325832_111080.jpg

[CoreyTheGent]

I remember when this first popped up on Slashdot, I believe:

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/811/razrslide1md.jpg

Created quite a frenzy. If there will ever be a Razr slider, that's definitely the best direction.

[simpsonsadict]

Wirelessly posted (samsung a800. oh yeah!: Samsung-SPHA800 AU-MIC-A800/2.0 MMP/2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Samsung-SPHA800 AU-MIC-A800/2.0 MMP/2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1)

omg that is so effing hott!

[CoreyTheGent]

Well, I actually just changed my mind. After staring at the thing for about 3 minutes, it's highly impractical. Having to access the D-Pad that far down below the screen would be very uncomfortable. Infact, it would require two hands.

[Felicia]

Well, I actually just changed my mind. After staring at the thing for about 3 minutes, it's highly impractical. Having to access the D-Pad that far down below the screen would be very uncomfortable. Infact, it would require two hands.

Oh..and it looks lavender by the way! lol

[ConceptVBS]

I remember when this first popped up on Slashdot, I believe:

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/811/razrslide1md.jpg



I would so get that in a heart beat.

[danny.boi]

A UI is the least of Verizon's crimes as a provider.

It's a hideous UI- there's a row of 5 "tabs" that let you move between menus. Services are all relabeled for VZW uses. This means all sub-menu options are labeled under 5 lists instead of 9 or 12, so submenus are too large (these are high end phones, mind you.) Making matters worse, all services are rebranded for VZW ("Get FLIX") ("GET PIX") which is ridiculous.

I've used over 100 3G cell phones. Not a single one has a UI as bad. Not a single one.

I digress, did you know that my MM535 ($200.00 with new activation) has an Mp3 player? Did you know their 8100 doesn't? ($220.00 with new activation).

Manufacturer customization is a good thing at times- Sprint's charger setup is very nice and convenient. Sprint's picture mail integration is nothing short of fantastic and is tightly integrated.

Manufacturer 'communization' when it's not at the will of consumers (to which I think the UI, the crippling of bluetooth, the implementation of BREW over J2ME, the inability to send ringers / images to your phone, the crippling of the Mp3 player, and the inability to use the memory card to transfer your pictures.


I paid $ 49.99 for mine. I still email ringtones from my PC.

BREW doesn't bother me. I'm not that hardcore. There are plenty of MP3 clips, wallpapers, games etc for the average person seeking to conveniently add them to their phone. I'd rather not pay for them if I don't have to, but this is not my deciding factor in whom I choose my wireless phone service with.

I've been able to pair my LG 8100 with my MAC via bluetooth. The only thing I can't seem to do is transfer my phonebook contacts. For checking email on the go it is great. I have a MOU plan so I can use my anytime bucket of minutes which would never go to use otherwise and don't have to subscribe to any $ 10 or $15 data plan. Plus nights and weekends are completely free. Not too shabby in my situation or for what I use it for.

[CoreyTheGent]

I would so get that in a heart beat.That phone is absurd, seriously. What if you wanted to enter contacts in the Phonebook? Your hand would be constantly straying back and forth from the bottom to the top as the arrow key plays a part (among other things, such as text messages and entering any kind of words/numbers). The D-Pad area (including the softkeys) needs to be above the keypad, not below it.

[ConceptVBS]

That phone is absurd, seriously. What if you wanted to enter contacts in the Phonebook? Your hand would be constantly straying back and forth from the bottom to the top as the arrow key plays a part (among other things, such as text messages and entering any kind of words/numbers). The D-Pad area (including the softkeys) needs to be above the keypad, not below it.


Got a point. :music:

Practicality aside, I think it looks awesome (personal opinion) :)

[CoreyTheGent]

Oh..and it looks lavender by the way! lolAll the more phone for us.

[CoreyTheGent]

Well, after holding my phone and pretending the D-Pad was at the bottom, I've changed my mind again, Lol. It's not "absurd," it'd just take getting used to. It's basically a reversal of phone usage as we've known it, with the D-Pad area below the keys and all. Many would simply find it irritating or refuse to adapt.

[Felicia]

All the more phone for us.


Matching phones! Ooh I can't wait! lol

[Jake]

guess who..

http://image.cetizen.com/index.php?img_no=gallery/200506/1118219442_45954.jpg

http://image.cetizen.com/index.php?img_no=gallery_500/200505/1117500109_58580.jpg

http://image.cetizen.com/index.php?img_no=gallery_500/200505/1117470161_1652423.jpg

http://image.cetizen.com/index.php?img_no=gallery_500/200508/1123325832_111080.jpg

That is pretty surprising that Celebs like Paris Hilton would buy such a cheap phone.

[mcurtiss1970]

That is pretty surprising that Celebs like Paris Hilton would buy such a cheap phone.

you think they "buy" stuff? how naive......

[CoreyTheGent]

That is pretty surprising that Celebs like Paris Hilton would buy such a cheap phone.Buy such a cheap phone? Like Paris sat around waiting for the Razr price-drops? She's probably had that since it cost $500, just like most celebrities.

[Jake]

you think they "buy" stuff? how naive......

Obviously not, I am just saying since its $200 now it surprises me they would want to be seen with it. Instead of like the S710a or something.

[Quill]

Paris is too mentally stunted to use the s710a. The swivel alone would be too overwhelming, much less the plethora of features. The RAZR is perfect for her. And I have no idea when those photos were taken ... by now she could have used six different phones. And didn't she have a Sidekick anyway? Maybe the SK was soooo 2004.

[Jake]

Paris is too mentally stunted to use the s710a. The swivel alone would be too overwhelming, much less the plethora of features.

:lmao: You're funny quill! I seriosuly doubt she even dials though, there has to be someone to do that for her.

[fonefreak]

more..

http://gallery.cetizen.com/?MODE=bbs&id=gallery&nowpage=6&cp=cetizen&list_type=1&category=0202&no=69651

[tuolumne]

I dont think the S250's lens is manufactured by Pentax. The lens isnt optical its all digital.

"Samsung cooperated with the Japan-based Asahi Pentax, one of the most respected camera lens providers in the world, to develop a camera module customized for the mobile phone. This partnership began in the first-half of 2003."

http://www.samsung.com/AboutSAMSUNG/ELECTRONICSGLOBAL/InvestorRelations/NewsPublicAnnouncement/PressRelease/PressRelease.asp?seq=20041020_0000080389

[Quill]

:lmao: You're funny quill! I seriosuly doubt she even dials though, there has to be someone to do that for her.

I think that's what the little dog is for ...

On topic ... even if Verizon does get the RAZR, I still think the company's business practices are abhorrent and could never consider using it as a cell provider. One phone isn't going to help ... but one can hope it will wake Sprint up. Although, who knows what it's really got in the pipeline. Could be some good stuff...

[simpsonsadict]

Wirelessly posted (samsung a800. oh yeah!: Samsung-SPHA800 AU-MIC-A800/2.0 MMP/2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Samsung-SPHA800 AU-MIC-A800/2.0 MMP/2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1)

yeah corey i did the same pretending with my a8 and i don't think itd b a problem either

[New91]

Some celebs aren`t that smart and they go for looks not features. That`s exactly what I expect from PAris, gotta love her, LMAO! BTW, in those pics with celeb pics and the RAZR, one of the guys that`s is Jude Law, or looks like him, looks like his fly is open!! LMFAO!!!!!!!

[FiNAL ImpACT]

the Razr is the biggest piece of crap ever invented. its just slim. thats all it is. nothin more unique about it. no speakerphone or video recording. the Razr is wack compared to my 535. im stickin wit sprint in da long run

Yes your are right, razr is stupid its just a slim phone...i Mean they took a phone and made it a pancake just wider and slimer. If you hold one in you hand for some time it will get so hot that it will literaly melt in your hand

[Quill]

Yes your are right, razr is stupid its just a slim phone...i Mean they took a phone and made it a pancake just wider and slimer. If you hold one in you hand for some time it will get so hot that it will literaly melt in your hand

Em, stupid? Basic, yes. Stupid ... I disagree.

But, the only time it's gotten really hot was when I left it in my car earlier this summer while it was plugged into the charger. I'm not quite sure how you had an experience with a RAZR that got really hot just by holding it ... but, it does have a fair amount of metal alloy on its exterior, so you can't let it sit in the sun, that's for sure.

[RattDawg]

After dealing with Sprint stores all day yesterday and getting nothoing accomplished, I have been very tempted by a T-Mob sign at the store by my work advertising a $99 Razr. I never thought it was a $500 phone but man $99 iis a deal. That sign just taunts me.

[Quill]

What were you trying to get accomplished, RattDawg? I'm curious to know what would make you consider switching to T-Mo...heh. Can't you hear the sign calling you ... "Only $99 on a one-year contract....you know you want me!" ;)

[joesacco1584]

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, they're using the ugly UI from the LG phones!!! I swear that UI sucks so much it isn't funny, I'd rather deal with the clunky Motorola UI that isn't running on Linux.

But, I'm sure that I wont be able to keep them in stock...........

I can hear the phone calls now:
"Like, do you have that really tiny phone????"

"Dude, do you have that phone thats like paper thin?"

Or I can see a typical CDMA Razr sale:
<Showing customer A670:>
"Um, like I don't know.... it's kinda big...."
<Shows customer CDMA Razr>
"OH MY GAWD!!!!!! That phone is sooooooo cute and it fits perfectly in the back pocket of my new hip-huggers, OH MY GAWD... Tina will be like so jealous... I gotta have it!!!!!!"
<Trys to offer customer insurance for $4.99/mo.>
"I don't need that, my bill is like way to high as it is...."

Three days later......
"Um, I was like drunk the other night and I accidentaly broke my phone after I snapped it in half..."
<That'll be $399.99...>
"What!? I like only paid 200 for it! OMG, Verizon sucks!!!" <---Eventhough I totally agree with her on this
<Well, I did offer you the insurance...>
"Like I'm supposed to know I'm going to break my phone...GAWD"

"I'm sooooooo about to have a BF....." <---Not really, but I had to throw the "White Chicks" line in there ;)

[ConceptVBS]

I believe all phones on Verizon is going to have that Universal UI.

[Quill]

Funny that people think this phone is attractive only to young people ... I've not seen a person under 30 with one (excluding a handful of Cingular and T-Mo reps). Up until last week, the only people I saw carrying them were executive types in shirts and ties.

And trust me, joesacco, they'll know the name of the phone. I've never had a phone so recognizable ... every time I pull it out of my pocket (which is a lot, Deval likes to text message) people say "Oooh, is that a RAZR?"

I actually didn't realize people would react like that. Oh, well. No matter what, it's a great phone ... at least mine is. :)

[Deval]

Funny that people think this phone is attractive only to young people ... I've not seen a person under 30 with one (excluding a handful of Cingular and T-Mo reps). Up until last week, the only people I saw carrying them were executive types in shirts and ties.

And trust me, joesacco, they'll know the name of the phone. I've never had a phone so recognizable ... every time I pull it out of my pocket (which is a lot, Deval likes to text message) people say "Oooh, is that a RAZR?"

I actually didn't realize people would react like that. Oh, well. No matter what, it's a great phone ... at least mine is. :)

:lol: thats too cute...though its easier for me to SMS then you ;)

anyway Quill....wait and see what Sprint has in their pockets :Popcorn2:

[Jake]

After dealing with Sprint stores all day yesterday and getting nothoing accomplished, I have been very tempted by a T-Mob sign at the store by my work advertising a $99 Razr. I never thought it was a $500 phone but man $99 iis a deal. That sign just taunts me.

You know you want it!

[joesacco1584]

Funny that people think this phone is attractive only to young people ... I've not seen a person under 30 with one (excluding a handful of Cingular and T-Mo reps). Up until last week, the only people I saw carrying them were executive types in shirts and ties.

And trust me, joesacco, they'll know the name of the phone. I've never had a phone so recognizable ... every time I pull it out of my pocket (which is a lot, Deval likes to text message) people say "Oooh, is that a RAZR?"

I actually didn't realize people would react like that. Oh, well. No matter what, it's a great phone ... at least mine is. :)

remember that demand varies by market... mostly young people want the Razr here. One out of every 5 of my younger customers ask for it as "that thin phone on the commercial." If it's one thing I know, it's that this town is all about glitz, glamor, and size... the younger market wants a phone that can do almost all of the big features (camera/video/texting), but looks cool. Middle-aged consumers want a phone that can do everything but not a PDA. Suits and white-collar workers want PDA phones with Broadband access and basically walks the dog for them. And the only consistant I've found is that older consumers want the basics (Talk/End/Voicemail).

[Doomgoggles]

No offense, joesacco1584, but what are you doing with an N400 if you sell phones?

Regarding the Verizon RAZR UI: It won't matter what it looks like as long as its faster than the moto version. That has got to be one of the slowest-responding devices I've ever used. That's one thing I love about the 5600 so much: lightning-fast response; you can't outpace the buffer.

[Jake]

I wanna play with the UI, but no Verizon around here :(

[Quill]

remember that demand varies by market... mostly young people want the Razr here. One out of every 5 of my younger customers ask for it as "that thin phone on the commercial." If it's one thing I know, it's that this town is all about glitz, glamor, and size... the younger market wants a phone that can do almost all of the big features (camera/video/texting), but looks cool. Middle-aged consumers want a phone that can do everything but not a PDA. Suits and white-collar workers want PDA phones with Broadband access and basically walks the dog for them. And the only consistant I've found is that older consumers want the basics (Talk/End/Voicemail).

Oh, you know I hadn't noticed you are in Vegas. This is definitely an exception. Seattle is very different. I know. I lived in Vegas for two and a half years. What you say about Vegas is absolutely right as far as the market goes. I actually got my first cell phone at the Circuit City on Tropicana just a couple miles from UNLV. Back before CC sold out to Verizon. LOL

Up here, though, it is different. Like I said, initially when I saw the RAZR in the wild, it was executives. The ones who don't want PDAs or smartphones, that's my guess. It's changing now with the price drop. By the time I notice an oversaturation, I will likely have moved on, so I'm not worried about it.

Like it or not, the RAZR has developed a life of its own. Good luck with selling it, joesacco.

[Ovaltine224]

my store just got in 3 razrs. i dont like how there is only one jack on the whole thing. but i do like how tmobile throws includes a free headset

[CoreyTheGent]

Obviously not, I am just saying since its $200 now it surprises me they would want to be seen with it. Instead of like the S710a or something.Celebrities don't like chunky, feature-filled handsets such as the S710a. Infact the majority of the world doesn't. The Razr serves its purpose when it comes to the most basic necessities of a cell phone, and for that reason celebrities seem to be sticking with it. Hell, I'm just now starting to see it in music videos.

And stop trying to reason with these people, Q. You know good and well that Razr V3 threads bring out some of the most stupid statements.

[Quill]

Celebrities don't like chunky, feature-filled handsets such as the S710a. Infact the majority of the world doesn't. The Razr serves its purpose when it comes to the most basic necessities of a cell phone, and for that reason celebrities seem to be sticking with it. Hell, I'm just now starting to see it in music videos.

And stop trying to reason with these people, Q. You know good and well that Razr V3 threads bring out some of the most stupid statements.

First paragraph: Exactly.

Second paragrah: I know. I came to that conclusion sometime yesterday afternoon. I give up. What's funny is people don't actually hate the phone (for the most part, since so few have done more than play with one), they hate the hype, the ubiquitousness of it (made up another word, I think).

Besides, by the time CDMA folks get it, I'll be three phones past the RAZR, and they'll hate on those handsets, too. Wait till my brother starts sending me German phones.

[joesacco1584]

No offense, joesacco1584, but what are you doing with an N400 if you sell phones?

Regarding the Verizon RAZR UI: It won't matter what it looks like as long as its faster than the moto version. That has got to be one of the slowest-responding devices I've ever used. That's one thing I love about the 5600 so much: lightning-fast response; you can't outpace the buffer.

Its a long story, but i'll sum it up real quick

Bought 7400 & Added Second Line, Changed Plan
7400 Broke, Found out that when plan changed... rep dropped insurance
Stuck with N400 until I can produce $400 out of an orface which wishes to remain anyomous.

^
That's the story in a nutshell

[joesacco1584]

Oh, you know I hadn't noticed you are in Vegas. This is definitely an exception. Seattle is very different. I know. I lived in Vegas for two and a half years. What you say about Vegas is absolutely right as far as the market goes. I actually got my first cell phone at the Circuit City on Tropicana just a couple miles from UNLV. Back before CC sold out to Verizon. LOL

Up here, though, it is different. Like I said, initially when I saw the RAZR in the wild, it was executives. The ones who don't want PDAs or smartphones, that's my guess. It's changing now with the price drop. By the time I notice an oversaturation, I will likely have moved on, so I'm not worried about it.

Like it or not, the RAZR has developed a life of its own. Good luck with selling it, joesacco.

heh, my store is on flamingo/maryland... that's practically around the corner (in vegas terminology)

[Quill]

heh, my store is on flamingo/maryland... that's practically around the corner (in vegas terminology)

Very close to where I used to live ... off Trop near the Elvis museum. Heh. My husband graduated from UNLV.

But, I digress ... so is that a Verizon store? Must be ... when I was in Vegas, everybody had AT&T or Verizon. It's been almost three years since we moved back. I'm sure things have changed a lot.

[Doomgoggles]

Ubiquity....
....and I do hate the phone itself. Mainly the fact that its sooo sloooow and so fragile. Also I wouldn't want to constantly worry about dropping it through a storm-drain grate.

[Quill]

Ubiquity....
....and I do hate the phone itself. Mainly the fact that its sooo sloooow and so fragile. Also I wouldn't want to constantly worry about dropping it through a storm-drain grate.

Ubiquity ... good. I hate having to look things up so I can properly conjugate them.

Compared to the v551, the RAZR's fast. Scary, I know. I don't have any other relatively new mid-level phones to compare it to ...

Never thought about dropping it through a storm drain. I'll be sure never to stand over one while talking :) ... but, Lockline is insuring it now, so I don't stress about it. I haven't encountered any problems with its build. It's actually held up better to drops than my v551, which has a couple scuffs and scratches. I nearly had a heart attack the first time -- yeah, first time -- I dropped it. But, not a scratch or scuff to be seen. Maybe I'm lucky.

I wonder how far you have to drop one before it breaks?

[joesacco1584]

Very close to where I used to live ... off Trop near the Elvis museum. Heh. My husband graduated from UNLV.

But, I digress ... so is that a Verizon store? Must be ... when I was in Vegas, everybody had AT&T or Verizon. It's been almost three years since we moved back. I'm sure things have changed a lot.

Agent store... and the corporate is one block north of us :lol:. All I know is that things have changed a lot in the five years I've been back here..

[Willie_Esco23]

All I can add to this thread is who cares that verizon is getting the RAZR?? And who cares about the RAZR period?? It's just a regular ole motorola phone lacking on features and just and over hyped fashion statement.

[danny.boi]

All I can add to this thread is who cares that verizon is getting the RAZR?? And who cares about the RAZR period?? It's just a regular ole motorola phone lacking on features and just and over hyped fashion statement.


The CDMA version is more feature laden (+1xEVDO) than the first generation GSM model including a 1.3 or higher megapixel camera. The new GSM verison will also include more high end features.

[upp3r 3ch3lon]

The CDMA version is more feature laden (+1xEVDO) than the first generation GSM model including a 1.3 or higher megapixel camera. The new GSM verison will also include more high end features.

means nothin when the phone has no durability. my friend went through like 4 of those phones. oh well, yay verizon. more subscribers that will be "IN". la-tee-fricken-da...

we better get the 740.

[Smallville]

do sprint is not getting this phone period? is that was i am to assume?

or is there a possibility?

[Adorea]

don't be dumb. buy it and unlock it and have them change it over.
duh.

i hate stupidity.

[mcurtiss1970]

don't be dumb. buy it and unlock it and have them change it over.
duh.

i hate stupidity.

ha!

too bad your highly intelligent answer won't work. sprint won't activate non-sprint phones.

[Smallville]

plus sprint = CDMA not gsm mister know it all

[Deval]

don't be dumb. buy it and unlock it and have them change it over.
duh.

i hate stupidity.

I wonder whos stupid now :lmao: