motorola sucks!!

[bdoc]

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Hello Moto my a** maybe its jus me but i think motorola sucks yes even the razr besides bluetooth what do they have i would even take a old sammie N400 over most of there current line up why do people want sprint wit motorola someone let me know

[vporter]

Maybe it's because not everyone holds the same opinion as you. I like moto phones, every one that I've used worked very well and I look forward to Sprint re-introducing them into their line. Fortunately, Sprint will continue to carry other brands in their line up for those that do not like Motorola phones.

[behindTHEscenes]

My last moto phone for Tmo was a piece of crap... the t720i but there were just problems with that phone in general, not just mine. I think moto makes nice phones and I know lots of people who have moto phones but I don't think i would ever get another one.

But hey! Who knows?! lol

[bdoc]

Maybe it's because not everyone holds the same opinion as you. I like moto phones, every one that I've used worked very well and I look forward to Sprint re-introducing them into their line. Fortunately, Sprint will continue to carry other brands in their line up for those that do not like Motorola phones.


I have never owned a motorola but i have a friends and family that have them and i can say i have never used one that i thought wasn't a piece of crap. I had to use someone else phone yesterday and i was scrolling thur the phone book and i guess i was pressing the down bottom to fast but the phone froze, then the screen blank, and next thing i know the cam came on. :irked:
And the seem so slow like surfin the net on a P1

[DJ_Vitamin_J]

ive found that with mtot phones the more you spent the better the build and durability quality of the phone is me personaly i dont like them cause every one i have had just didnt cut it...and as far as the razr i think the only thing it has going for it is style and bluetooth other than that its crap :wavey:

[Moogle]

Moto phones seem to have reasonably good build quality and generally excellent RF performance.

From my experience, Motorola's downfall is their software on the phones... It seems to be clunky and buggy... I do like motos (My friend has a V551 on Cingular) generally, but I just don't like how their software feels.

[Jake]

I love my V710, it is a high-end phone and it is VERY nice, so I guess you were playing with a cheap or defective one. The V551 is also very very nice, the RAZR is cool but it made more for people who just want the looks of it.

[mpeters13]

Meh. I had the V551 with Cingular, and the phone had it's problems. It has a slow interface. It updates quite slowly and has speakerphone issues. I've had 3 of them. I'm glad that nightmare is over. Sprint and my Samsung i500 have been good to me for the most part.

[Jake]

I also hear that the E815 is a very nice phone as well.

[pkiphd]

samsung sucks

[Jake]

The is really no company that is better than another, its all personal preference, meaning what one person likes another person might not, period.

[mpeters13]

Meh. If you lived in the cornbelt, you wouldn't say that. Cingular has horrible reception here. Sprint is much better, despite the lack of feature filled phones. The motorola v551 wasn't horrible, but with constant dropped calls, lack of service, Sprint is like an angel for me.

You're right though. One persons trash is another ones treasure. I'm sure there are a ton of Treo 650 users on this forum who thing the Samsung SPH-i500 is trash, but it has been an immense upgrade from that motorola.

[behindTHEscenes]

Moto phones seem to have reasonably good build quality and generally excellent RF performance.

From my experience, Motorola's downfall is their software on the phones... It seems to be clunky and buggy... I do like motos (My friend has a V551 on Cingular) generally, but I just don't like how their software feels.

Yeah I feel the same way... it seems to go slow. Like if you scroll down in the phone book and hit down like 5 times it take it a couple seconds to catch up with how many times you've pressed the button. And loading things all take a while too.

[mpeters13]

Yep. That's exactly why I hated it. It's slow as hell.

[Quill]

Motorola phones have two things going for them: loud, crystal clear audio and great speakerphones.

That being said, Motorola has had a hell of a time with quality control, it seems, during the past two years or so. The T720 was a ginormous disaster of a handset.

There have also been issues with the i730 (blown speakers), the v710 (hello out of alignment camera), the MPx220 (poor earpiece) and the v551 (white screen of death in initial batches).

But, when you get a good Motorola, it's hard not to love them. When Motorola gets it right, they really nail it. And I have three different Motos - a low end, a mid-level and a high end. Moto used to be the king, the pioneer of cell phones and has long had a rep for making solid, strong performing phones, despite its recent offerings. I think that's why Sprint folks want to see Motos. And variety is a good thing for a company's lineup, anyway.

[behindTHEscenes]

The T720 was a ginormous disaster of a handset.
Well, I can certainly confirm that for ya!! ;)

[ConceptVBS]

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i think motorola sucks

Good for you.


samsung sucks
Good for you.



Now go back to sleep.

[behindTHEscenes]

Good for you.



Good for you.



Now go back to sleep.
:clap:

[Jake]

There have also been issues with the v710 (hello out of alignment camera)

are you sure its not meant to be like that? I kinda like it, hardly an issue.

[Jake]

Meh. If you lived in the cornbelt, you wouldn't say that. Cingular has horrible reception here. Sprint is much better, despite the lack of feature filled phones. The motorola v551 wasn't horrible, but with constant dropped calls, lack of service, Sprint is like an angel for me.

I meant the manufactorers, not the carriers ;)

[will_z32]

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I also hear that the E815 is a very nice phone as well.

My gf has an e815 and it pisses me off,that sprint cant get a phone with these features (bt, 1.3 mp cam,removable storage) for $300

[Jake]

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My gf has an e815 and it pisses me off,that sprint cant get a phone with these features (bt, 1.3 mp cam,removable storage) for $300
Wishful thinking :rolleyes:

[vporter]

The good thing about the freedom of choices, is that you don't have to use a phone you do not like.

[will_z32]

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My gf has an e815 and it pisses me off,that sprint cant get a phone with these features (bt, 1.3 mp cam,removable storage) for $300
Wishful thinking :rolleyes:

I laughed at the 8300 comparing it with the e815,hell even the 7400 falls short

[Jake]

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I laughed at the 8300 comparing it with the e815,hell even the 7400 falls short

The 7400 falls WAY short... even the 5600 does, it does not have EV-DO :indiff:

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Hello Moto my a** maybe its jus me but i think motorola sucks yes even the razr besides bluetooth what do they have i would even take a old sammie N400 over most of there current line up why do people want sprint wit motorola someone let me know

Wow that post had absolutely no foundation. That was just pure good ol' fashion ranting.

[CoreyTheGent]

Motorola phones have two things going for them: loud, crystal clear audio and great speakerphones.

That being said, Motorola has had a hell of a time with quality control, it seems, during the past two years or so. The T720 was a ginormous disaster of a handset.

There have also been issues with the i730 (blown speakers), the v710 (hello out of alignment camera), the MPx220 (poor earpiece) and the v551 (white screen of death in initial batches).

But, when you get a good Motorola, it's hard not to love them. When Motorola gets it right, they really nail it. And I have three different Motos - a low end, a mid-level and a high end. Moto used to be the king, the pioneer of cell phones and has long had a rep for making solid, strong performing phones, despite its recent offerings. I think that's why Sprint folks want to see Motos. And variety is a good thing for a company's lineup, anyway.I tried looking up "ginormous" in the dictionary and can't seem to find anything...

I'm with the OP, though. Moto definitely sucks.

[behindTHEscenes]

My gf has an e815 and it pisses me off,that sprint cant get a phone with these features (bt, 1.3 mp cam,removable storage) for $300

What service is the e815 for?? Cuz that is a hott lookin phone!!

[CoreyTheGent]

Verizon Wireless.

[Jake]

I tried looking up "ginormous" in the dictionary and can't seem to find anything...

I'm with the OP, though. Moto definitely sucks.

What happend to your e815 Corey!?!?!?

Behindthescenes it is for verizon

[CoreyTheGent]

It's sitting on my nightstand.

[suneeboyboy]

If the RAZR was on Sprint, there would be so many people on here who would buy it though.

[CoreyTheGent]

I always say that your product isn't certified "Large" unless it not only has a huge fanbase, but a huge "haterbase" to counter it. You don't have a successful product unless there's a group of people on the internet who trash it and do everything possible to stop others from buying it. For a phone to move 500,000 units, that's seen as a success. The Razr is now pushing toward 4, maybe even 5 million in under a year. It probably has more warranty replacements than what was sold of the Sanyo 8200 altogether. So yes, you'll have plenty of haters. You'll have plenty of "I hear the Razr isn't very durable and breaks easily" considering a ginormous amount of people have purchased it.

If you make 5,000 copies of a piece of paper, there's going to be many more with imperfections than if you made 20 copies of the same piece of paper. Just comes with the territory.

[Jake]

Do you still like your 815, corey? Why did you say motos suck?

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The v635 I think is a very good phone.

[Quill]

I tried looking up "ginormous" in the dictionary and can't seem to find anything...

I'm with the OP, though. Moto definitely sucks.

Heh. I just told Deval that it was such a horrible phone I had to use a made up word to completely capture how horrendous it was. LOL

I think I heard Lindsey Lohan said it in 'Mean Girls' or something. :lol:

I don't think Moto sucks in general, but lately, it seems like it can't put out a phone without something going wrong. I have had my RAZR for two months now and even though I want to sell my v551, I can't bring myself to do it. And for some unknown reason my husband loves his v180, tiny screen, cramped keyboard and all.

Jake15, the camera wasn't mean to be out of alignment ... Motorola recalled a bunch of v710s that were sold by Verizon - you may not have gotten a bad one since you use USCC - to fix the lens.

[CoreyTheGent]

Do you still like your 815, corey? Why did you say motos suck?Yeah, I still like it. I was just being sarcastic.

That reminds me. You once asked me for an E815 review in a thread somewhere, Q. I'm not really a review kind of person, but I'll say that while it's far from being my perfect phone, the call quality and EV-DO speeds will do fine in keeping me satisfied until I'm ready to buy something else. For $300 full retail, I'm very much happy with my purchase. Aside from that, the reviews on Phonescoop (both positive and negative) generally reflect how I feel about the E815.

Phonescoop.com: Motorola E815 Reviews (http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/user_reviews.php?phone=663)

[behindTHEscenes]

Verizon Wireless.

Ugh... of course. I was talking to Jake earlier about maybe switching to Verizon. They are getting all the cool phones! Plus they have EV-DO already available and working in my area... plus their coverage is awesome.

I really like Sprint though... and I have hope for them that they are going to step it up soon :)

[tuolumne]

ive found that with mtot phones the more you spent the better the build and durability quality of the phone is

On the GSM side, that seems to be the case. The low-end V-series models are built to very low standards, while the high-end V600/635s are built to excellent standards.

On the CDMA side, I really can't say the same. The V260/265 are still built very cheaply, but yet still the V710 isn't really built any better. It still has a cheap battery door, and cheap flibsy feeling plastics everywhere else.

For their iDEN phones, all of them are durable. The high-end models are built beautifully (i730, i860), while their low end candy bars and flips (i710), while durable, feel pretty cheap.

The manufactures who always seem to have great physical build quality, no matter what they build, are Nokia and Samsung.

[CoreyTheGent]

Ugh... of course. I was talking to Jake earlier about maybe switching to Verizon. They are getting all the cool phones! Plus they have EV-DO already available and working in my area... plus their coverage is awesome.

I really like Sprint though... and I have hope for them that they are going to step it up soon :)Sprint will never catch up to Verizon in EV-DO coverage.

[Ovaltine224]

yea moto does suck. there phones are pure crap

hello moto, why dont you ****in die???

[New91]

Moto doesn`t suck that much I had the V300 and that was an okay phone even though I had to go through like 3 replacements. The camera was horrible though but everything else was fine.

[gsi91j]

Sadly, I work for Motorola and I STILL wouldn't buy (or recommend) a motorola phone, their quality and reliability has gone down hill drastically

[tuolumne]

What do you do for them?

[gsi91j]

I'm an engineer...but I dont' work in the cell phone division. I can tell you though that their main push is to get product out the door, not necessarily to perfection, but as they have put it, a product just has to be....."good enough" in today's economy.

[Quill]

^^^^^ That doesn't surprise me at all because that's the feeling I get when using Motos no matter the carrier, particularly the current generation and previous generation.

[Jake]

^^^^^ That doesn't surprise me at all because that's the feeling I get when using Motos no matter the carrier, particularly the current generation and previous generation.

How does the pastic feel on the RAZR, when I played with it I didn't really pay attention :indiff:

[tuolumne]

It has alloy, like the V60.

The flip will break right off if you drop it however...That has been a a major problem with them.

[Jake]

It has alloy, like the V60.

The flip will break right off if you drop it however...That has been a a major problem with them.

I saw that first hand, when I was getting my Cingular service cut off the rep dropped one on the CARPET and snapped it in half, thanks for the quick answers toots. :clap:

[pdx77]

yea moto does suck. there phones are pure crap

hello moto, why dont you ****in die???

and what are the reasons why you think Moto sucks?

Have you tried the v635? IMO I think that is a very good phone.

[Jake]

and what are the reasons why you think Moto sucks?

Have you tried the v635? IMO I think that is a very good phone.

It is a very good phone, he obviously has not used it or anything outside of the free ones you get at the little stand in the mall or he wouldn't say that. :music:

[CoreyTheGent]

It is a very good phone, he obviously has not used it or anything outside of the free ones you get at the little stand in the mall or he wouldn't say that. :music:That's not necessarily true. He could've had the V635 and hated it for all we know. Everyone's entitled to their opinions.

[suneeboyboy]

samsung sucks

But you gotta love the Cool To The Touch Alloys, along with the high quality plastics.

[sneak]

Sorry, I disagree. My v551 has worked great for me.

[Quill]

How does the pastic feel on the RAZR, when I played with it I didn't really pay attention :indiff:

Like plastic. Heh. I don't really notice it because there's not much there.


It has alloy, like the V60.

The flip will break right off if you drop it however...That has been a a major problem with them.

I wasn't aware that it was a major problem ... there are those who claim the phone is fragile, but thus far in my experience mine is quite sturdy.

I can see, btw, how a demo RAZR in a store could break. But, I've dropped my RAZR about a half dozen times (I know, careless, but Lockline insures it now) and it hasn't been a problem. Carpet, concrete, either way it was fine.

[tuolumne]

hmm...Well a lot of people that I know have had to get replacements because the flip has come right off after a fall, and that has been echoed on the web as well. Maybe they beefed it up with the black Razr?

[CoreyTheGent]

I wasn't aware that it was a major problem ...Neither was I, Q. I almost started wondering where tuolumne got his information, but I had just gotten back from a late night toilet paper run and it suddenly came to mind.

Like I said earlier, if you make 5,000 copies of a piece of paper, you'll get many more copies with imperfections than if you were to make 20 copies (the 20 copies for example being a representation of the Samsung p777's lackluster sales). The ratio of bad Razrs to good Razrs is no more abnormal than any other handset, but with a tremendous amount of sales comes an above average amount of griping.

[jaytv]

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Ugh... of course. I was talking to Jake earlier about maybe switching to Verizon. They are getting all the cool phones! Plus they have EV-DO already available and working in my area... plus their coverage is awesome.

I really like Sprint though... and I have hope for them that they are going to step it up soon :)Sprint will never catch up to Verizon in EV-DO coverage.

That statement will look very rash by the middle of next year.

[CoreyTheGent]

Rash is a good way to describe it. That's what Verizon's maps look like for EV-DO coverage, an airborne rash that has infected the nation and is quickly spreading.

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We'll see...

[tuolumne]

Neither was I, Q. I almost started wondering where tuolumne got his information, but I had just gotten back from a late night toilet paper run and it suddenly came to mind.

Like I said earlier, if you make 5,000 copies of a piece of paper, you'll get many more copies with imperfections than if you were to make 20 copies (the 20 copies for example being a representation of the Samsung p777's lackluster sales). The ratio of bad Razrs to good Razrs is no more abnormal than any other handset, but with a tremendous amount of sales comes an above average amount of griping.

The flip breaks very easily (or so I have conjugated), and I've seen it happend on two occasions.

1) Stepping out of a truck, Razr falls out of pocket, snaps in half.
2) Talking on it. Drops it, flip snaps off.

If you look on the internet, you will find reports of this happening to others as well.

Couple that with Jake saying he saw one snap in half at the store, and I inferred that Motorola had a problem on their hands.

[CoreyTheGent]

Couple that with Jake saying he saw one snap in half at the store, and I inferred that Motorola had a problem on their hands.Your research is simply astounding. Very thorough, I must say.

And where exactly did quill's report of extreme durability fit in? Where exactly did the overwhelming number of people on the internet who are happy with their Razr's and don't report any hinge breakage fit in? Like always, you took what you wanted from the situation and formed your own slanted conclusion. Because it's not the Samsung Razr V3, your ears only perk up when somebody is talking trash.

[Quill]

The flip breaks very easily (or so I have the word you want here is conjectured or speculated. Conjugated means to take a root form of a word and adapt it to the proper tense, but I digress), and I've seen it happend on two occasions.

1) Stepping out of a truck, Razr falls out of pocket, snaps in half.
2) Talking on it. Drops it, flip snaps off.

If you look on the internet, you will find reports of this happening to others as well.

Couple that with Jake saying he saw one snap in half at the store, and I inferred that Motorola had a problem on their hands.

Two instances personally observed and one reported second hand by Jake coupled with reports online does not a sufficient case for a large scale problem make. Plus, that is very flawed logic. Classic example of inductive reason, a fallacy of logic. Thank you, Thomas Aquinas.

True, there are reports online. I have seen them. A handful. Anecdotal evidence, at best, and it proves nothing. Now, if you can find some empirical evidence, say from the actual lab testing done before release or third-party independent studies done post-release, then I'll entertain your assertion. In the meantime, the evidence provided is not sufficient to convince me that this is a major problem.

[tuolumne]

Your research is simply astounding. Very thorough, I must say.

And where exactly did quill's report of extreme durability fit in? Where exactly did the overwhelming number of people on the internet who are happy with their Razr's and don't report any hinge breakage fit in? Like always, you took what you wanted from the situation and formed your own slanted conclusion. Because it's not the Samsung Razr V3, your ears only perk up when somebody is talking trash.

Whatever. Think what you want.

I have no intention of having a back-to-back with you right now.

[tuolumne]

True, there are reports online. I have seen them. A handful. Anecdotal evidence, at best, and it proves nothing. Now, if you can find some empirical evidence, say from the actual lab testing done before release or third-party independent studies done post-release, then I'll entertain your assertion. In the meantime, the evidence provided is not sufficient to convince me that this is a major problem.

Bah...people do it all the time on these forums...With the 5600s crack, the noise-cancellation on the Samsungs, blow speakers on the A680...

Are any of those circumstances enough to call something a wide-spread issue or problem? Or is it only considered that when the manufacture issues a recall [A460]? I really don't know where to draw the line. Call me an self-indulging, idealistic idiot if you wish...heh.

[Quill]

Of course people report problems on the forums. And I have never considered that anything more than anecdotal evidence, which I learned in college was not sufficient to prove a causal relationship. Forums simply aren't ever going to provide a large enough sample to accurately extrapolate a solid, logically sound conclusion.

Anything said on a forum should be taken with at least a grain of salt and often handfuls. And I would say a recall is certainly sufficient evidence that there is a widespread problem ... it means that there are so many reported problems - i.e. statistical, empirical evidence - that the product must be recalled.

I wouldn't call you names, at least not here. Heh. Just calling out your fallacies of logic and lack of concrete evidence.

[jaytv]

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Your research is simply astounding. Very thorough, I must say.

And where exactly did quill's report of extreme durability fit in? Where exactly did the overwhelming number of people on the internet who are happy with their Razr's and don't report any hinge breakage fit in? Like always, you took what you wanted from the situation and formed your own slanted conclusion. Because it's not the Samsung Razr V3, your ears only perk up when somebody is talking trash.

Whatever. Think what you want.

I have no intention of having a back-to-back with you right now.

That's because you just lost the argument... Oh boy does Corey have your number!

[tuolumne]

I'm not clear ... people do what all the time on forums?

Make a handfull of posts about a problem into a "wide-spread" problem that all of the phones seemingly share.

[Jake]

That's not necessarily true. He could've had the V635 and hated it for all we know. Everyone's entitled to their opinions.

I saw one of his other posts (too lazy to find it) saying that he has never strayed away from Sprint, therefore couldn't get anything outside of the very low end moto's... Wasn't there a recall at one point on the RAZRs? I thought someone said there was when I had the "Should I buy a RAZR" thread. That was a long time ago, as was when I saw it break. Maybe Quill has a new, better quality one? idk :Popcorn2:

[Quill]

I saw one of his other posts (too lazy to find it) saying that he has never strayed away from Sprint, therefore couldn't get anything outside of the very low end moto's... Wasn't there a recall at one point on the RAZRs? I thought someone said there was when I had the "Should I buy a RAZR" thread. That was a long time ago, as was when I saw it break. Maybe Quill has a new, better quality one? idk :Popcorn2:

If there was a recall, I would surely hope that I would know about it. I get news releases from Cingular and Motorola. Unless they did it completely hush-hush -- which is unusual with recalls -- it is unlikely that it happened and I don't know.

The MPx220 was recalled. As were the initial batches of the v551. Whoever said there was a recall on the RAZR may have been ... confused.

[simpsonsadict]

i'd have to agree with tu on this, like my opinion matters HAHAHA :-)

[CoreyTheGent]

Your opinion does matter.

Agree with tuolumne on what?

[simpsonsadict]

well he was saying what he was doing was nothing different from what others do with the problems of samsungs and sanyos, which i know he would defend a samsung to his death but i think he has a point with his last few posts, and thanks btw. i hope that was more clear

[Jake]

Corey is there a big difference between the e815 and the v710? Besides the obviously EV-DO

[Quill]

well he was saying what he was doing was nothing different from what others do with the problems of samsungs and sanyos, which i know he would defend a samsung to his death but i think he has a point with his last few posts, and thanks btw. i hope that was more clear

Somehow, that doesn't make it defensible, nor does it make his assertions correct. Actually, I think by saying he's just doing what lots of other people have done that he is making himself look like an idiot.
I don't think he's an idiot, btw, he's just stubborn sometimes. But, he knows I'm right. Heh. At least for now. People make baseless claims here all the time, but he forgot the other half of the equation: people call out those on the forums who make baseless claims faster than you can say EV-DO.

In any case, no cell phone manufacturer is perfect. Moto doesn't suck, but lately it certainly could be doing a better job. With the exception of Kyocera, I think the same could pretty much be said of all the manufacturers that supply phones for the American market.

[sneak]

Corey is there a big difference between the e815 and the v710? Besides the obviously EV-DO
No.

[CoreyTheGent]

Corey is there a big difference between the e815 and the v710? Besides the obviously EV-DOFeels more sturdy, has a much better and infact addictive keypad, and the menus move with fluidity. The camera is also improved as its a true 1.3mp camera instead of the V710's 1.2 something.

Also got the skinnable UI, I don't believe the V710 has that. Though it comes with only 3, we're always creating more in the Verizon Moto forum on HoFo. Even with only 3, it's much better than that red and white crap on the LG's (and soon to be every VZW handset).

[fergie]

I checked out an E815 this weekend. If Sprint had it, iI would discard my 4 Sanyos in a minute. Unfortunately, we just don't have any phones to brag about in our Sprint line-up. Hope that changes soon.

[Quill]

Hell, if I had to use Verizon, the only phone I would consider is the Moto e815. It's a hot little number ... and the keypad is dramatically improved over the v710 and I think it's more aesthetically pleasing with the whole brushed silver thing going for it. If my father in law ever decides to get rid of his POS LG VX10 and sticks with Verizon, he's so getting the e815. He could get a killer deal on that. It's more phone than he needs, but, I think he'd love it.

[simpsonsadict]

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quill, i dont really agree with his bashing of phones or whatever he was doing i just get kind of annoyed when people gang up on tu for doing stuff other people get away with.

[Quill]

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quill, i dont really agree with his bashing of phones or whatever he was doing i just get kind of annoyed when people gang up on tu for doing stuff other people get away with.

Hey, it's cool. I don't gang up on tutu, ever, here at SU. There's no need. Besides, Corey and tutu have a friendly back-and-forth thing, as far as I know. Trust me, the only time I ever go after someone is if I truly think they're bad for SU. I was one of those who lobbied Lee to allow tutu to come back.

And he's not really bashing ... I think he's just trying to contribute information. My only problem is that it's just not as authoritative as he's trying to make it seem in this case. He knows I wanna smack him sometimes, but he also knows he's not on my shyte list.

I just wanted you to know where I was coming from ... I know sometimes it can get frustrating when people get picked on. With tutu, it's all ... well, not love, but it's playful. I'd never suck him into a nasty argument and I think he would know better than to take the bait from me anyway. He's like my annoying little brother.

[fergie]

Bottom line is that Sprint-Nextel will be a company with $40 billion a year in revenue. I think they can try and get some decent phones. Sorry, I didn't mean decent, we already have that. I meant awesome phones.

[simpsonsadict]

Wirelessly posted (samsung a800. oh yeah!: Samsung-SPHA800 AU-MIC-A800/2.0 MMP/2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Samsung-SPHA800 AU-MIC-A800/2.0 MMP/2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1)

yeah i knew bashing and gang up werent the best choice of words but i couldn't think of anything better lol

[Quill]

That's the very least Sprint customers deserve, fergie, since the company used to be the home of the bleeding edge.
Outside of a few people with Sprint, who blinked when Sprint released the first MP camera phone last summer? Nobody. Same with the a800, the first 2MP camera phone in the states.
Hopefully Moto will develop some awesome phones for the post-merger monolith that will be Sprint together with Nextel. Even though I'm no longer a subscriber, I'm cheering for Sprint to take over the number two position and knock Verizon down a couple more pegs.

[simpsonsadict]

Wirelessly posted (samsung a800. oh yeah!: Samsung-SPHA800 AU-MIC-A800/2.0 MMP/2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Samsung-SPHA800 AU-MIC-A800/2.0 MMP/2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1)

Wirelessly posted (samsung a800. oh yeah!: Samsung-SPHA800 AU-MIC-A800/2.0 MMP/2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Samsung-SPHA800 AU-MIC-A800/2.0 MMP/2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1)



i can't believe the U.S.' first 2mp cam phone didn't create much buzz at all outside of these forums and a few magazines but i guess ththat's mostly if not all samsungs and/or sprints fault

[burp15]

Well, I recently had lunch with one of the VPs of Motorola (my uncle) and he was kinda vague about Motorola's future with Sprint. He said that all of the carriers are becoming very picky about their handsets, and talks with Sprint have never gone well. He didn't say that they definately will or wont make Sprint phones again, but he didn't make it seem like it was imminent, so don't get your hopes up.

Honestly, I wouldn't want any of today's Motorola phones. I used to have a v120 on Sprint, and I loved it. I threw it out a window, accidentally took it in the pool, and ran over it with a car, and it still worked. I only changed phones because I wanted SMS, and every once in a while I think about pulling out the ol' 120 and reactivating it. Motorola has changed its technique from making durable phones that you could beat the crap out of to making pretty phones that are flimsy and break easily. I'll stick with my 120...

[Quill]

Sprint can claim most of the blame ... Samsung should be blamed, too. I mean, look at Motorola and Nokia lately. They've been bombarding us with television ads about the RAZR, the 6230, the 6255, the 6682, etc. Cingular puts out a magazine, full color glossy, every quarter and puts it out in its stores. That's a great advertising piece.

That a800 needs more good press. Hello! It's the first 2MP camera phone in the U.S. And tuolumne actually gave up his beloved a620 for it.

[fergie]

If Sprint buys Verizon or Cingular, then Sprint will be the undisputed cellular champ.

[Ovaltine224]

yea, sprint needs to advertise more. i mean, the nokia phones are advertised like they are freakin cars

[Deval]

If Sprint buys Verizon or Cingular, then Sprint will be the undisputed cellular champ.

:lol:

[fergie]

Better yet, competition sucks. Let's just have Walmart or Exxon buy all three.
:clap:

[Jake]

Better yet, competition sucks. Let's just have Walmart or Exxon buy all three.
:clap:

There would be a large Cellular boycott due to low pay :lol:

[fergie]

Yep, but we would always "get the lowest prices".

[Jake]

Yep, but we would always "get the lowest prices".

True, and the new Sprint spokesman and be one of those hott little smileys :wavey:

[Jake]

Feels more sturdy, has a much better and infact addictive keypad, and the menus move with fluidity. The camera is also improved as its a true 1.3mp camera instead of the V710's 1.2 something.

Also got the skinnable UI, I don't believe the V710 has that. Though it comes with only 3, we're always creating more in the Verizon Moto forum on HoFo. Even with only 3, it's much better than that red and white crap on the LG's (and soon to be every VZW handset).

By skinable UI do you mean different colors? Did verizon make it red on the 815?

[Ovaltine224]

i dont like verizons interfaces. like Get Pix and Get Flix??? id rather have a simple camera and camcorder

[Jake]

Does the e815 have Verizons interface? Does the v710?

[CoreyTheGent]

By skinable UI do you mean different colors? Did verizon make it red on the 815?No, the E815 is probably the last of the Motorolas to not have that horrid UI. While it surely is no prize (at least in my opinion), with the only alternative being the crap on LG's, there's no question which one I prefer.

Skins are like.. hmm.. outfits. Not just changing the wallpaper or anything, but the entire look of the phone. Color and size of the font, the menu structure. It's been in some Motorola GSM phones for awhile now.

"Techno" for example makes your phone's interface look like something The Terminator would use. "Scarlet" is this purple, silky look. The standard "Moto" is a nice blue and white combo, pretty much universal. Those are the only three that come on the phone though more can be hacked onto it. I doubt Verizon will offer more through Get It Now or anything like that.

Samsung's got something similar coming up with Sprint, but they'll actually allow you to download new themes through Vision which I believe will be coupled with a Flash UI. Of course, you know who to ask about that one.

[Jake]

Corey, can I put the skins on my 710?

[CoreyTheGent]

I don't believe so, Jake.

[Jake]

I don't believe so, Jake.

Does it work with the Verizon 710? I havn't seen anything on the USCC forums on hofo about it so I didn't think it would work on mine.

[CoreyTheGent]

I've never seen anything concerning skins being uploaded onto the V710.

[Jake]

I've never seen anything concerning skins being uploaded onto the V710.

How does the outer display work on the 815? Is it like the 710 where when you change the color scheme the outer design changes?

[CoreyTheGent]

The outer screen is your wallpaper, the background of your internal screen.

[Jake]

The outer screen is your wallpaper, the background of your internal screen.

I wish the V710 was like that :weeping:

[CoreyTheGent]

The color of the font on the external screen also changes with the Skins.

[Jake]

I want the 815 SO bad, Verizon comes here next month, not sure if EV DO is coming along... But I sure would miss my DUN using bluetooth.

[ConceptVBS]

I think Moto is really getting its act together now with the new CEO at the helm. They are truely focused on product now, from what I'm gathering.

[Jake]

I think Moto is really getting its act together now with the new CEO at the helm. They are truely focused on product now, from what I'm gathering.

After hearing about the e815 I believe it!