Samsung collaborating with Motorola on mobile technology

[tuolumne]

Samsung collaborating with Motorola on mobile technology

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"Seoul Korea, July 4, 2005- Two of the competitors in the mobile market Samsung and Motorola are collaboration to share technologies with each other. This is the latest in a series of moves by the companies to cut costs and get going in this competitive field. It also helps in keeping costs low by avoiding legal disputes over intellectual property.

Samsung announced this deal while informing the Korea Exchange though refused to give out the details of the agreement in technical and financial sense. Samsung had also announced similar collaboration with the entertainment giant Sony Corporation of Japan last year to share patents on technologies.

The other companies in similar collaborations are South Korea’s LG Electronics Inc and Japan’s Matsu$ita Electric Industrial Company. They agreed earlier this year to settle a dispute over plasma display technologies and to cross-license patents on plasma, personal computers, and DVDs. this latest news of collaboration between Motorola and Samsung led to a minor rise in the share prices of the company in the stock market.

The collaboration would help these two top mobile manufacturers after Nokia to give it an enhanced competition and better products in the market to the end consumers. "

http://news.techwhack.com/1564/samsung-collaborating-with-motorola-on-mobile-technology/

[upp3r 3ch3lon]

so let me get this straight, samsung and motorola are gonna sleep together and have a baby. and that baby is gonna be a huge brick phone with a buggy UI.

or perhaps a sexy little thing with RL/DC and BT and EV-DO, 2 MP cam THAT WILL NEVER COME OUT.

(WHERE THE HELL IS THE A940 AND A920? DAMN!)

[CoreyTheGent]

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.

I will say one thing, Motorola and Samsung have the best luxury phones (at least impending phones) in the V1150 and D600. Pre-orders for the V1150 are being taken already: Celluloco (http://www.celluloco.com/products/customer/product.php?productid=506)

[tuolumne]

Sounds to me like some people want to topple Nokia;)

[jaytv]

Now would be the time...Nokia is in the weakest position they have been in years...

[Bklyn295]

Dont count nokia i have read in a article that they are planning to regain their once former glory with new styling of phones worldwide and espcially in the U.S the Vp said they are working closely with sprint to deliver handset to give nokia a blanced portfolio

[CoreyTheGent]

Nokia is weak in the United States, though I'm not sure what their track record is here as I wasn't into tech stocks back then. But they grow stronger globally with every quarter that passes. Consistent gains in Europe and Asia, markets which most consider to be more important than America. Nokia is the most impressive manufacturer of mobile phones that the world has ever seen. A real powerhouse, one that I personally don't believe Motorola nor Samsung will ever match.

See, if Nokia was in some kind of slump, on their backs while Moto and Samsung attacked, my prediction would be different. But for every step Motorola and Samsung take forward, Nokia takes three. Nokia is built for this. Phones may be doing good at the moment, but whenever they don't, Nokia is the one who withstands problems the best. And we must remember that they're only one or two "iPod Phones" away from gaining in America, but the rest of 2005 is negative for Nokia here.

[tuolumne]

Remember Corey, Samsung and LG both took over Nokia in the US market this year, and there is no sign of them comming back.

[Bklyn295]

Motorola also has the iTunes phone coming out even though mototola wasn't innovative about it the itunes phone is most likely is going to sell way more units than the N90 and N91

[tuolumne]

^True, considering that the N series won't even be sold through US carriers.

[CoreyTheGent]

Remember Corey, Samsung and LG both took over Nokia in the US market this year, and there is no sign of them comming back.For 2005 there isn't, as I already stated in my post. But nobody knows what the future holds. It also depends on how strategic of a market America is seen as in Nokia's eyes. Perhaps they are satisfied with their current placement? If not, they could easily take the #1 spot come post-2005.

If you look at each company's marketshare and compare that to their stance in America, you'll see that the US isn't really a good indicator of where they stand as a whole. I mean, LG can barely hold on globally yet they're regarded so highly here? It doesn't really mean jack, as far as I and most others are concerned.

[tuolumne]

Your correct to an extent. The US market does not globally represent a company, and well, in that global market, Nokia is still number 1.

I really do think that Nokia has the most potential to keep their title intact though. It's time for them to start developing handsets that people will buy in large numbers again (no $450 S60 handsets either Nokia).

[Bklyn295]

^True, considering that the N series won't even be sold through US carriers.
But you never know becuase high-end phones have become increasingly popular among americans ie: razr blackberries, treo's

[Bklyn295]

I also think Nokia plans on going in a different direction or even expanding not to just cell phones becuase i realize that they are going to fall just look at the internet tablet the plan on releasing the NN70

[CoreyTheGent]

America is not as far behind as we used to be. Our thirst for new technology grows stronger with every year and, in my opinion, the US is an untapped market for the most part. I mean, look at 3G. You'd think we wouldn't be seeing EV-DO until 2010 with the way things normally work, but the demand for such tech now booms faster than it did in the past. It didn't take us 5 years to get the PSP and now Sony is considering a global launch of the PS3 (as opposed to just Japan) due mostly to us.

We may still want the cheapie phones for the most part, but instead of low-end Sanyo v200 type phones being the #1 sellers it has gone to the Motorola V551/Sanyo 8300/Samsung A880 type handsets with high end phones in demand more than ever, too.

A few studies, surveys etc. have shown that Americans now consider the Nokia brand "low-end," probably because of the saturation of cheap candybar phones with tiny screens. This is where the Nokia N-Series comes in. This is what they advertise the Communicator for. So while these types of high-end products may not propel Nokia to #1 in America overnight, it's a start by uncheapening their brand. Basically what Samsung did by removing their televisions from Walmart. Did Samsung lose money with that move? You bet your ass they did, but it was a calculated risk they felt was worth taking.

[Bklyn295]

I co-sign that to the fullest but the n-series no carriers? most people in the us dont buy a phone unless a carrier debuts it

[CoreyTheGent]

For one, I'm not sure how much truth that holds. Maybe that was just the decision of the moment which tuolumne picked up on. It was once said, and I even reported it, that all major US carriers had turned down the iTunes phone, too. Now look at it, being released for Cingular.

2nd, GSM phones can achieve great success without being offered on a carrier. Only CDMA phones are doomed when they're not picked up.

[Bklyn295]

For one, I'm not sure how much truth that holds. Maybe that was just the decision of the moment which tuolumne picked up on. It was once said, and I even reported it, that all major US carriers had turned down the iTunes phone, too. Now look at it, being released for Cingular.

2nd, GSM phones can achieve great success without being offered on a carrier. Only CDMA phones are doomed when they're not picked up.
Not to sound ignorant but can you give me one example of a gsm not picked up by a carrier that has great sucess in the us? :)

[jaytv]

For one, I'm not sure how much truth that holds. Maybe that was just the decision of the moment which tuolumne picked up on. It was once said, and I even reported it, that all major US carriers had turned down the iTunes phone, too. Now look at it, being released for Cingular.

2nd, GSM phones can achieve great success without being offered on a carrier. Only CDMA phones are doomed when they're not picked up.

True...my comment referred to the fact that for the first time in years, Nokia isn't number one, in the largest market in the world. It is a small weakness for a monster like Nokia, but one nonetheless.:Popcorn2:

[FloorMatt]

Not to sound ignorant but can you give me one example of a gsm not picked up by a carrier that has great sucess in the us? :)

D500

I dunno.....I'm just guessing...

[CoreyTheGent]

Not to sound ignorant but can you give me one example of a gsm not picked up by a carrier that has great sucess in the us? :)The Samsung D500.

The Motorola V635.

The Motorola V620.

The Black Razr V3 was selling just fine, too, awhile before Cingular released their version. And it still has its place since Cingular took out video recording while the unbranded Black Razr's is enabled.

[tuolumne]

While I was generally impressed with the Nseries, it is hardly without fault. These phones are not small, nor are they light. In fact, the N90 and N91 probably push the upper limits of what most people are willing to carry. And not everyone will like the style of them - especially the N91, I suspect. And then there's price... Nokia expects the unsubsidized price of the N90 to be around $900.USD. That's one expensive phone.


Sorry Corey, I don't see any success comming out of the N series, much more than for Nokia brand recognition.

[Bklyn295]

Sorry Corey, I don't see any success comming out of the N series, much more than for Nokia brand recognition.
Me neither but i do want that nn70 internet tablet nokia to me is doomed

[CoreyTheGent]

Phonescoop coverage? Come on now, tuolumne. For every article you can get predicting doom for the N-Series, I can find two more saying it'll be the greatest thing that's ever happened for Nokia. Too late for all this garbage.

I also never said anything about the N-Series achieving success past brand recognition. Infact, if you'd read what I stated a few posts back, you'd see that I implied the N-Series was strictly for brand recognition's sake. There are some handsets that do good profit-wise and some that just make your name look good. The N-Series will likely only work towards the latter. There are very few that do both, such as the Razr V3 and D500.

[Bklyn295]

does anyone think nokia has crept into an utapped resource with the internet tablet if it does well?

[CoreyTheGent]

I do. Innovations like that also help toward Nokia's brand, though whether it actually catches on or goes no further than the N-Gage is yet to be determined.

[PSkinny121]

"Samsung, Motorola Share Technology

Yesterday, 2:39 PM source: Reuters / Telecoms Korea

Samsung and Motorola have entered an agreement to share mobile technology. The move does not end competition between the two handset manufacturers. Instead the cross-licensing deal is intended to prevent any disputes over licensing or intellectual property of underlying mobile technology. The move could most immediately benefit Samsung, which has announced they will bring their V740 RAZR-alike to the US and Europe. If Samsung used any of Motorola's miniaturization technology, this agreement will protect them. "

Hmm...which phone is this, pics anyone?

[CoreyTheGent]

tuolumne will be at your service shortly.

As for the article itself, Phonescoop was talking out of their ass. This agreement has nothing to do with that.

[Bklyn295]

tuolumne will be at your service shortly.

As for the article itself, Phonescoop was talking out of their ass. This agreement has nothing to do with that.
You never kno i did read some where that moto try to patent that design of the razr so if samsung does bring it they might not have to go to court

[CoreyTheGent]

They tried, but did they succeed?

[FloorMatt]

:eek: The V740! They actually are going to bring it here? It's MINE!!!

There is a V740 thread........those that are interested, please use the :search: .