Sanyo loves Orange & hates us.

[Invader J]

Found a review of the Sanyo S750, for Orange's (UK) 3G network...

http://www.threegmobile.net/main/index.php?lang=ENG&option=news_detail&nid=554

I just wanna cry. Why can't Sanyo gives us a nice-spec'd phone like that? And don't give me crap about how the 5600 is diesel, cuz it sure ain't compared to THIS phone. Bluetooth, USB connectivity (mass storage functionality, which means it shows up on your desktop), nice huge QVGA screen, dual cams, the UI makes Sanyo's US-market UI looks like utter garbage, robust messaging client for E-mail, SMS,etc, way better phonebook...

Boy, mobile tech in the US is completely falling behind... sure it's a big country but come on, why don't we get any nifty stuff?

Granted, the 5600 and A800 are getting there, and sure the specs for this phone that I mentioned aren't exactly revolutionary, but it's definitely a complete package whereas the 56k and A800 definitely leave tons of room for improvement.

Thoughts?

[tuolumne]

Very nice.

[sneak]

Nothing TOO special. And its only got 3 hours of talk-time.

I'd prefer something more exotic than even that.

[tuolumne]

Really, it's not earth shattering by any means. QVGA? We have that. Bluetooth? Have it. Mass storage? 5600 has it.

The closest that the US has come to this handset is the Sony Ericsson S710a. Email, bluetooth, USB, QVGA. Sure, no dual cams, or video calling, but the US doesn't have the network to accommodate that functionality.

The closest Sprint will come, for now, is the A940.

[sneak]

Really, it's not earth shattering by any means. QVGA? We have that. Bluetooth? Have it. Mass storage? 5600 has it.

The closest that the US has come to this handset is the Sony Ericsson S710a. Email, bluetooth, USB, QVGA. Sure, no dual cams, or video calling, but the US doesn't have the network to accomidate that functionality.

The closest Sprint will come, for now, is the A940.
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[Moogle]

True... We might have all those features on our phones... But they're only present on our highest-end phones. That phone has probably been out in Japan for like 2 years.

And it really isn't much of a surprise... Japan has been light years ahead of the USA when it comes to phone technology... and so has Europe.

Oh well, you could import an unlocked phone and put an American SIM card in it... It supports 1900mhz GSM (Just don't plan on using Cingular... Lots of Cingular's coverage is 800mhz GSM.)

Moogle

[tuolumne]

Woah...hold on.

Nowhere does it say that this device has been out in Japan for 2 years. Let's not make unvaildated assumptions.

My point is here, there are more technological evolving and innovative handsets from Sanyo and most every other Asian manufacture.

[Moogle]

Oh I didn't make any assumptions... I was using a simile to indicate that the phone has probably been out for awhile because I know that japan has even more advanced phones than that one.

I was attempting to be general by using the word "like."

Moogle

[sneak]

I was using a simile

You talking up HERE



and its being understood down HERE.


:lol:

[suneeboyboy]

Ok, we have the individual features here in the US. But we don't have them all in one package. Granted the s710a is close to that, but not close enough. Sanyo is Sprint exclusive in the US and they should make it known why they are.

[upp3r 3ch3lon]

Nothing TOO special. And its only got 3 hours of talk-time.

I'd prefer something more exotic than even that.

yea. even the newer version Sanyo S750i isnt all that great. Just gimme that N90. im seriously considering getting an account with t mobile so i can buy like 9 gsm phones to satisfy the phone whore in me. Im sick of not having cutting edge phones.

[jaytv]

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Sprint is to blame here guys. They could spec any CDMA Sanyo they wanted.

[inteller]

they dont give us cool phones, because that might prevent us from buying from their stupid little trinket store.....cause you know all those stupid ringers and pictures HAVE to be better than whats on your phone.

[Matt]

Hello cynical.

[SlickShoes]

What you guys have to remember is not only the size of the screen, but the amount of colors and the resolution. It has a 2.4" QVGA 262K color screen with a 240x320 resolution....it is a monster. My 4050 is a 2.1" 262K with 240x320, the only one with sprint, and yes that extra .3" would be phenomenal!!!

[ready4URlink]

Eh, the phones looks nice... but I'm more impressed with claim-shell flip phones.. but the slider phones are nice too, no doubt. In all in all...its not that much greater, because I didnt read anywhere where it mentioned it 2-Way Walkie-talkie capabilities our newest high-end and some low-end Sanyos does. But oh well, everybody doesnt like walkie-talkie style phones though. :headbang2

[INTERNET2000]

I would like if Sprint got a Sanyo phone like this...Maybe in the next five years or so. ;)

[behindTHEscenes]

That phone is pretty cool... that is one of the reasons I got sprint! was because of all the cool phones but now they are really loosing to cingular. and even verizons coming out with some cool phones too.. like the LG VX8000 with v cast... i reeeeally like that phone.

[vman51]

its pretty cool that it holds regular sd cards...

we are slowly progressing, something like that phone may come out in the US within the next year or two

[scotsboyuk]

I've browsed this forum for some time, but this thread finally made me register. :)

This is the second version of the S750 that has been released on Orange and with good reason.

The first version bombed as it had a very cheap plastic look and feel to it and its specifications really weren't all that great. This second version is little better to be honest, although the plastic look has thankfully gone.

The internal memory isn't exactly anything to shout about and the fact that it doesn't even support real tones is another mark against it. If it has looked good then it could have pulled this off, but unfortunately its combination of looking like a malformed Fisher Price toy and its average specifications and performance really didn't endear it to many. This second version should hopefully do better though.

Most people are going for the LG 8120/30/50 at the moment although Nokia has a couple of new 3G handsets out and the V600 has just been released on Vodafone. Sanyo really aren't big in the UK (or the rest of Europe for that matter) at all.

EIn all in all...its not that much greater, because I didnt read anywhere where it mentioned it 2-Way Walkie-talkie capabilities our newest high-end and some low-end Sanyos does. But oh well, everybody doesnt like walkie-talkie style phones though. :headbang2

There is a good reason for that; PTT pretty much flopped before it begun here.

[sneak]

There is a good reason for that; PTT pretty much flopped before it begun here.
First off, welcome to SprintUsers.com.

This "PTT" you speak off.. no carrier in the UK offers PTT anymore? It just doesn't seem to die here in the states.

[scotsboyuk]

First off, welcome to SprintUsers.com.

This "PTT" you speak off.. no carrier in the UK offers PTT anymore? It just doesn't seem to die here in the states.

Thank you very much, a jolly nice forum it is too. :)

To the best of my knowledge Orange were the only network to ever declare any intention of implementing PTT in the UK. After some initial reports some months ago there has been nothing said or done about it as far as I am aware. I don't think there are even any handsets available, which support it at the moment.

The initial reports in the mobile magazines here were all somewhat critical of PTT asking what benefit it would actually be to people. I must say that I can't eactly see the attraction myself, but each to his own. :)

[fatboy]

Something that would make me really be interested in the G8 Summit if they would fight for the US to have awsome cell phones heh ok that was bad im sorry

[scotsboyuk]

Something that would make me really be interested in the G8 Summit if they would fight for the US to have awsome cell phones heh ok that was bad im sorry

I wonder which ones the G8 chaps use?

[fatboy]

I wonder which ones the G8 chaps use?
I can bet Mr. Bush has a really long string on that tin can he has :clap:

[scotsboyuk]

I can bet Mr. Bush has a really long string on that tin can he has :clap:

I hope this doesn't sound rude, but I often wonder why the U.S. government doesn't actually do more to improve their wireless industry. America seems to like to be the biggest and best and yet in terms of wirless technology is quite frankly isn't.

I mean this thread is a good example. Some people seem to think that that Sanyo is a great handset whilst people here have pretty much avoided it. No U.S. network is anywhere near being a global network either.

[will_z32]

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I can bet Mr. Bush has a really long string on that tin can he has :clap:

I hope this doesn't sound rude, but I often wonder why the U.S. government doesn't actually do more to improve their wireless industry. America seems to like to be the biggest and best and yet in terms of wirless technology is quite frankly isn't.

I mean this thread is a good example. Some people seem to think that that Sanyo is a great handset whilst people here have pretty much avoided it. No U.S. network is anywhere near being a global network either.

What do you mean by global network? side note a russian student moved down stairs from me for the rummer and has a real nice se black slider

[scotsboyuk]

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What do you mean by global network? side note a russian student moved down stairs from me for the rummer and has a real nice se black slider

As in a network that extends beyond one's own borders. Vodafone, Orange, O2, T-Mobile, Telefonica, etc operate networks beyond their home countries for example. None of the U.S. networks operate outside North America, if they even operate outside the U.S.

Cingular could be a global network for instance.

[behindTHEscenes]

Thank you very much, a jolly nice forum it is too. :)

To the best of my knowledge Orange were the only network to ever declare any intention of implementing PTT in the UK. After some initial reports some months ago there has been nothing said or done about it as far as I am aware. I don't think there are even any handsets available, which support it at the moment.

The initial reports in the mobile magazines here were all somewhat critical of PTT asking what benefit it would actually be to people. I must say that I can't eactly see the attraction myself, but each to his own. :)

I totally agree! I mean just call the person!! I have a free trial of ready link right now and I turned it off because all it does is drain my battery and any time I try to go online i have to wait for it to PREPARE first.... I find in extremely annoying and I don't know man people with ready link anyway.

Nextel's is better.. but still not something I would use often.

[behindTHEscenes]

I hope this doesn't sound rude, but I often wonder why the U.S. government doesn't actually do more to improve their wireless industry. America seems to like to be the biggest and best and yet in terms of wirless technology is quite frankly isn't.

I mean this thread is a good example. Some people seem to think that that Sanyo is a great handset whilst people here have pretty much avoided it. No U.S. network is anywhere near being a global network either.

Oh don't get me started on the US government!! But you are absolutely right...

KERRY 04!!! lol

[scotsboyuk]

I totally agree! I mean just call the person!! I have a free trial of ready link right now and I turned it off because all it does is drain my battery and any time I try to go online i have to wait for it to PREPARE first.... I find in extremely annoying and I don't know man people with ready link anyway.

Nextel's is better.. but still not something I would use often.

I think what put people off it here was that if you walked down the high street using your mobile as a walkie talkie people would think you were a.) a bit sad and b.) a show off.

[fatboy]

I hope this doesn't sound rude, but I often wonder why the U.S. government doesn't actually do more to improve their wireless industry. America seems to like to be the biggest and best and yet in terms of wirless technology is quite frankly isn't.

I mean this thread is a good example. Some people seem to think that that Sanyo is a great handset whilst people here have pretty much avoided it. No U.S. network is anywhere near being a global network either.
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[behindTHEscenes]

I think what put people off it here was that if you walked down the high street using your mobile as a walkie talkie people would think you were a.) a bit sad and b.) a show off.

lol I see nextel's all over the place here!! and it has that little sound that now everyone in the usa knows and recognizes haha. they also use them a lot on like construction sites and stuff so that the workers can easily talk to one other person instead of having to talk to everyone if you were using a regular walkie talkie.

[scotsboyuk]

lol I see nextel's all over the place here!! and it has that little sound that now everyone in the usa knows and recognizes haha. they also use them a lot on like construction sites and stuff so that the workers can easily talk to one other person instead of having to talk to everyone if you were using a regular walkie talkie.

The general consensus here was that it would be useful to people in certain industries e.g. construction workers.

PTT just doesn't seem to have the same impact here a sit does in America. Perhaps it's because text messaging is more popular or perhaps it just seems a little 'naff', but whatever the reason I don't see it becoming a major feature.

[Quill]

scotsboyuk, in general, European carriers have 3G networks fully implented, right?

It would be nice if the FCC said, 'Look, folks, get your acts together and roll out your 3G networks by the end of 2006. All of you. Do it. Then all the whiney cell geeks can finally have all the cool gear they've had in Europe for two years.'

Wireless carriers, at least from what I understand, provide phone service for considerably less than what one might for a landline in Europe. So, wireless saturation hit sooner there. Here, people are still thinking about cutting out their landlines (like me, even though I have zero need for it).

So, circumstances are just weird.

As for PTT ... blah. The next time I hear someone doing that in the locker room at the gym I'm going chuck my combo lock at their head. I would toss it the phone, but those Moto/Nextels are bricks.

[scotsboyuk]

scotsboyuk, in general, European carriers have 3G networks fully implented, right?

It would be nice if the FCC said, 'Look, folks, get your acts together and roll out your 3G networks by the end of 2006. All of you. Do it. Then all the whiney cell geeks can finally have all the cool gear they've had in Europe for two years.'


Not quite ...

The 3G networks have largely been deployed to cover the major towns and cities as well as some rural areas. The government sets targets, which the networks must meet or they loose their license.

Currently 3 has around 80 - 85% of the Uk population covered, the other networks have less than this in the UK.


Wireless carriers, at least from what I understand, provide phone service for considerably less than what one might for a landline in Europe. So, wireless saturation hit sooner there. Here, people are still thinking about cutting out their landlines (like me, even though I have zero need for it).


Again, not quite ...

Landlines are comparitively cheap across Europe now, especially in deregulated markets. Wirless services can, and often are, more expensive than landlines now.

[Quill]

I'm glad I asked. Info was from a friend who lived in the UK and Paris, but it's been a few years. And, I am easily confused.
I think, though, that the 3G networks are more widely available there than here. Cingular's EDGE is only in a hanful of markets at this stage, Verizon has been switching on chunks of EV-DO network during the past eight months or so, but I don't know that they're yet at 80 percent...and Sprint, well, Sprint is still in the testing phases, from what I understand.
So, by comparison, we at least feel light years behind. Oh, well. At least I have a RAZR. Heh.

[scotsboyuk]

I'm glad I asked. Info was from a friend who lived in the UK and Paris, but it's been a few years. And, I am easily confused.
I think, though, that the 3G networks are more widely available there than here. Cingular's EDGE is only in a hanful of markets at this stage, Verizon has been switching on chunks of EV-DO network during the past eight months or so, but I don't know that they're yet at 80 percent...and Sprint, well, Sprint is still in the testing phases, from what I understand.
So, by comparison, we at least feel light years behind. Oh, well. At least I have a RAZR. Heh.

EDGE is available in some markets, but 3G has made it largely irrelevant.

HSDPA should be available next year so that will probably help the spread of 3G services.