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full_in54
06-15-2005, 06:24 PM
so i got it down how to make my ringers but they are all huge! anyone got any tips on how to make em smaller?

steb0ne
06-15-2005, 06:43 PM
so i got it down how to make my ringers but they are all huge! anyone got any tips on how to make em smaller?

Play with adjusting or lowering the sample and bit rates, also try mono instead of stereo.

cordell88
06-16-2005, 11:29 AM
Before you convert them aac, first open sound recorder and convert it while its still in .wav form

Format- PCM
Attributes-16.000 kHz, 8 bit stereo 31/kb second

then convert it to aac. usually this helps for me...

G-Unit_4900
06-16-2005, 11:47 PM
ugh thatll sound like crap,
u better off makin a dayum qcp if u go that route

ACC are better sounding and are gonna b bigger than qcp.
best format:

MONO | 20-24kbps | 24-32khz sample rate
a instrumental 20-30sec ringer will be about 25-65kb
a standard 25-30s mp3 will about 55-85kb

a tip:

instead of a 30 sec chorus, only use half of it. Most peoples ringers i hear play the entire chorus even though its the same 2-3 sentences looped twice. Jus take that first 12-15s that looped and stop it there. when it rings it on;y a .5 to 1s gap between the ringer restart. sounds fine ( ull prolly answer your phone by the 1st 12-15 seconds (if u intend on answering) u'll reduce your size by about 1/2 to 1/3 :)

Willie_Esco23
06-17-2005, 12:59 AM
ugh thatll sound like crap,
u better off makin a dayum qcp if u go that route

ACC are better sounding and are gonna b bigger than qcp.
best format:

MONO | 20-24kbps | 24-32khz sample rate
a instrumental 20-30sec ringer will be about 25-65kb
a standard 25-30s mp3 will about 55-85kb

a tip:

instead of a 30 sec chorus, only use half of it. Most peoples ringers i hear play the entire chorus even though its the same 2-3 sentences looped twice. Jus take that first 12-15s that looped and stop it there. when it rings it on;y a .5 to 1s gap between the ringer restart. sounds fine ( ull prolly answer your phone by the 1st 12-15 seconds (if u intend on answering) u'll reduce your size by about 1/2 to 1/3 :)


This is how you make your AAC ringer smaller. First you find a mp3 spliiter program. Rip like the first 30-40 secs of the song. Then use Itunes software to convert the files to AAC @56Kbps. The files come out to around 250-400Kb and sound great as ringers on the phone.

G-Unit_4900
06-17-2005, 02:52 AM
250-400kb is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY to big to b a ringer. specially for a800 and 56oo users. LG'rs have that nice amount of internal memory. Were workin wit a lil over 3mb & thats shared with pix/vidz

Oh and your phone only rings for about 30s. Why are u makin 30-40s ringers?

Willie_Esco23
06-17-2005, 02:57 AM
250-400kb is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY to big to b a ringer. specially for a800 and 56oo users. LG'rs have that nice amount of internal memory. Were workin wit a lil over 3mb & thats shared with pix/vidz

Oh and your phone only rings for about 30s. Why are u makin 30-40s ringers?

Well that's the phone I did the ringers for. They sound fantastic. You dont have to use 30-40 secs but that's what I used. Anways that's the way to make the AAC ringer smaller. Any other way will distort the sound completly making it sound no better then a qcp file. Wow only 3MB of memory?? That make's me feel even better I got the LG phone instead.

donblay
06-17-2005, 07:44 AM
MONO | 20-24kbps | 24-32khz sample rate
a instrumental 20-30sec ringer will be about 25-65kb
a standard 25-30s mp3 will about 55-85kb


thats the sample rate i use for mine (and keep the clip short as possible, never going over 30 though) and on average my AAC's are 90-100K.

G-Unit_4900
06-17-2005, 02:45 PM
mine av about 12-24s. Thas prolly y mine avg at about 60-85kb

full_in54
06-17-2005, 02:49 PM
thanx guys :clap: I never even thought of using I-tunes. I used it at school and when I had my 7400 I wouldnt even bother cutting up my mp3's, i just used 3gupload and it would upload about 30 sec of the song and only be 90-120 at most. prolly cuz i-tunes converted them to ACC for me. thanx a lot. im gonna go try this out.

Deval
06-17-2005, 11:41 PM
well my LG has 20mb of memory, so I use like 40 seconds at like 56kbps with no prob

Willie_Esco23
06-18-2005, 01:45 AM
well my LG has 20mb of memory, so I use like 40 seconds at like 56kbps with no prob


Same here with me buddy. I have 30-40 second clips that sound fantastic @ 56kbps. Maybe when newer MM phones come out they will follow in LG's steps buy making the internal storage of the phone bigger then 3 or 6mb.

tenpins
06-18-2005, 09:28 AM
Did some experimenting. First tools used CDex and dbpower amp music converter. Took a 27sec clip from a song and made an 320kbps mp3(size was 1,072KB) then converted it to aac(m4a)at 40vbr(varible bit rate) (size now is 105KB). Took the same 27sec clip and made an 128kbps mp3 (size was 430KB) then converted to aac at 40vbr (size is 105KB). Seems best to start with higher kbps since you get same size file after aac conversion. I then working on same theory with same 27sec made an wav file from the song (size 4,707KB) converted to aac at 40vbr (size is 192KB). Best sound comes from the one converted from the wav file but you can't really hear much differance with the small speaker on the 7400.

Willie_Esco23
06-18-2005, 12:28 PM
Did some experimenting. First tools used CDex and dbpower amp music converter. Took a 27sec clip from a song and made an 320kbps mp3(size was 1,072KB) then converted it to aac(m4a)at 40vbr(varible bit rate) (size now is 105KB). Took the same 27sec clip and made an 128kbps mp3 (size was 430KB) then converted to aac at 40vbr (size is 105KB). Seems best to start with higher kbps since you get same size file after aac conversion. I then working on same theory with same 27sec made an wav file from the song (size 4,707KB) converted to aac at 40vbr (size is 192KB). Best sound comes from the one converted from the wav file but you can't really hear much differance with the small speaker on the 7400.

Wow man that seems like alot of work. But you don't have much of a choice with such a limited amount of on board memory. I don't see why non of the other MM phones did'nt allocate the amount of memory that the LG did?? I mean c'mon these are pose to be multimedia phones what do they think people are going to be doing with these phones??? GSM phones such as the nokia 3620 have had 32MB's of memory or better with expansion slots for 2 years or better. It's time sprint really caught up in this department. And it seems as if only LG took this into account when making the MM-535.

tenpins
06-18-2005, 06:49 PM
Wow man that seems like alot of work.

Nah not a lot of work at all. See I have always made my own mp3s. This takes very little time. The whole experiment took all of 3 minutes.

 
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