5600/535 users, need your help!

[Invader J]

Hey kids,

Turns out the movies I was offering only worked on the A800, but not the 5600. I find this very odd. Although it does mean that the A800's media player is a lot more robust than the 5600's...

Anyway! If you have a 5600 or a 535, could you do me a huge favor and download this movie test pack (it's a widescreen clip of Jet Li's movie, Unleashed :) )

http://mobile.hush.cc/files/test_pack.zip

I'm trying to find out the limitations of the media players on the 5600 and the 535. There are three files in that pack:

176px_64k.3gp = 176 pixels wide, 64k data rate, suitable for 5600 or 535

176px_128k.3gp = same, but with 128k data rate, suitable for 5600 or 535

240px_64k_test.3gp = 240 pixels wide, 64k data rate, only for 5600

Please post which files played properly on your phone, and please include which phone you tested on. Thanks!

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Sidenote: The movies available at my site were encoded at 240px width and a 128k data rate. On the A800, these settings result in pristine video quality that fills the width of the QVGA screen. But it seems that these files do NOT play on the 5600. I'm not sure if it's the dimensions of the movie that are the problem or the higher data rate.
:)

[maraneric]

As for the 5600, the first two play fine, but don't play in full screen mode. The widescreen makes them very small on the phone. The third file won't even play on the 5600, though.

[Invader J]

Hey maraneric -

Thanks for testing them out, I appreciate it.

The widescreen aspect of the movies does make them small, unfortunately can't do much about it.

Based on the fact that the third one doesn't work, it looks like the 5600 can't support anything wider than the 3GP standard 176-pixel width. That's a shame as the A800 can support that width!

Not sure if my initiative to offer downloadable movies for all MM phones will work out then - since all QVGA phones can't play movies at QVGA width it doubles the work for me to encode them.

Oh well, I'll see what I can do.

[Jaggrey]

I'll try when I get home... left my card reader in the car and it's pouring outside :p

[BlayzeX]

With the 5600 the way to get it to fill the screen on expanded is to change it to DVD PAL settings and then use 3gp converter to do it... this results in "Expanded view" taking the full area...of course its blocky in expanded, but it works.....

If anyone knows an easier way then please share...

Blayze

[Djdevil]

Thanks IJ !!

[Invader J]

With the 5600 the way to get it to fill the screen on expanded is to change it to DVD PAL settings and then use 3gp converter to do it... this results in "Expanded view" taking the full area...of course its blocky in expanded, but it works.....


This is extreeeeemely annoying! See, for the A800 (and I assumed any MM phone with QGVA display) I encoded my movies at 240px width and 128k data rate. This, at least on the A800, resulted in a movie file that had looked gorgeous (thanks to higher data rate) and filled the width of the screen (thanks to increased width setting). Meaning that I could put a widescreen movie on my A800 and it would actually be watchable since there were basically NO artifacts due to compression.

The fact that I need to compress movies basically in QCIF standard 3GP format 176px width and 64k data rate) kinda kills what I was trying to do - provide movies and shows with very high quality settings so that they'd actually be enjoyable to watch on your phone.

I guess this is where the A800 excels - it'll play any 3GP or MP4 movie file as long as it's 240px wide, regardless of data rate.

Crap crap crap. Talk about ruining my plans! Not to mention that the anime episodes I was planning on publishing have subtitles - with the enhanced A800 settings the subtitles were perfectly readable, but that's impossible with standard QCIF 3GP encoding.

Arrrrrrrgh!! Yet another example of how the 5600 was TOTALLY rushed to market. Grrr.... I'll see what I can do about this limitation. :irked: :irked:

[Jaggrey]

176px_64k.3gp = 176 pixels wide, 64k data rate, suitable for 5600 or 535

176px_128k.3gp = same, but with 128k data rate, suitable for 5600 or 535

240px_64k_test.3gp = 240 pixels wide, 64k data rate, only for 5600

535 here....

176px_128k.3gp = same, but with 128k data rate, suitable for 5600 or 535
This one sounded fine but the video only took up the top half of the screen... the bottom half was flashing but showing the same thing.

176px_64k.3gp = 176 pixels wide, 64k data rate, suitable for 5600 or 535
Same thing as the 128k one.

240px_64k_test.3gp = 240 pixels wide, 64k data rate, only for 5600
Audio fine, video completely unviewable (for obvious reasons but tried it for kicks :p)

What are you using to encode the video? Seems kinda odd that both of them had similar results.

[Charm]

for the 5600 just use this setting 176x144 birate as high as your program allows you to set. there's already a forum for 5600 movies. I use mp4 (clearer quality) but they make bigger files 150mb - 230mb roughly. Thats with a bitrate of 216kbps and audio rate of 64kbps.

[Jaggrey]

This is what it looks like on the 535... look at the attachments for pics and the link for video.

Video: http://jaggrey.home.comcast.net/MOV01143.MPG

[LoneSnark]

What about the otherway? What if before encoding in mp4 you rotate the movie (assuming progressive scanning) 90 degrees and then encode at a widescreen resolution. If it works, simply rotate your phone 90 degrees and watch. :Popcorn2:

[Jaggrey]

What about the otherway? What if before encoding in mp4 you rotate the movie (assuming progressive scanning) 90 degrees and then encode at a widescreen resolution. If it works, simply rotate your phone 90 degrees and watch. :Popcorn2:
well because of all the stuff that's on the screen the actual media is longer than it is wide, so if u rotate it then u actually have less viewing area.