Treo 670!!!....

[DJ_Vitamin_J]

Does anybody have any information other that the few picd that are floating around the web about the 670?....and lets pray to god for ptt!!!...cause that would just be a kick a** phone!!!.... :headbang2

[William83]

Wirelessly posted (VGA1000: AU-MIC/2.0 MMP/2.0)

It would NOT be a kick ***** phone if there is no wi-fi.

[DJ_Vitamin_J]

well i ptt wifi blue tooth and a great os are what i would luv in a new phone cause the 8200 just aint cutting it

[dynamojon]

yeah wifi would definately be better than PTT....leave that stuff to the Sayos.

[DJ_Vitamin_J]

so let me get this straight..we are against a 2 way feature( ready link )on a new pda phone!!!???...

[Jordan]

i voted never, why pay for something i don't use (Just get unlimited pcs to pcs, much better than ready link)

[bjork_rules]

i voted never, why pay for something i don't use (Just get unlimited pcs to pcs, much better than ready link)

:good:

[fever]

How many construction workers use Treo's?

I'm kidding, of course. PTT would be okay, but there are more important things.

f

[FloorMatt]

How many construction workers use Treo's?

I'm kidding, of course. PTT would be okay, but there are more important things.

f

Perhaps their superiors?

PTT isn't a big ticket item for everyone......I agree.

[InnovativeMind]

does sprint still charge a lot on pcs vision for pda phones?(more than regular 10 or 15 bucks)

[jbjtkbw00]

i voted never, why pay for something i don't use (Just get unlimited pcs to pcs, much better than ready link)

I used to use it before getting my Treo. And the benefit vs PCS2PCS is that I would RL multiple people at once. You can only talk to a max of 2 people at a time the other method using a combination of PCS2PCS and 3-Way Calling.

There's others out there that find that be very useful as well. I've even met families that love the feature when they're on a family outing. Mom or dad can RL the whole family if they're split up at the amusement park. Seen it first hand and they use it all the time.

:bang: It does have its' distinct advantages.

[DJ_Vitamin_J]

i just think its time for sprint to add ptt to pdas...

[upperking]

Treo 670 is using Windows Mobile 2005 for its OS

http://www.bargainpda.com/default.asp?newsID=2466

[bjork_rules]

Treo 670 is using Windows Mobile 2005 for its OS

http://www.bargainpda.com/default.asp?newsID=2466
Try reading next time. The picture is a fake.

[upperking]

Try reading next time. The picture is a fake.
Plenty more links about on the web

http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=7748
http://blog.treonauts.com/2005/03/another_future_.html
http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/smartphones/treo/windows-mobile-treo-pictures-maybe-035790.php
http://www.pdatrends.com/showthread.php?t=3666
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=7073
extra..

[Jordan]

Dell is making a smartphone, is it the treo?

[bjork_rules]

Plenty more links about on the web

http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=7748
http://blog.treonauts.com/2005/03/another_future_.html
http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/smartphones/treo/windows-mobile-treo-pictures-maybe-035790.php
http://www.pdatrends.com/showthread.php?t=3666
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=7073
extra..
All spawned from the same false rumor. There's a thread on treocentral.com where people took pictures of their 650's running TiVo, Linux, OS X, Cobalt, and things like that.

[upperking]

I wouldnt want a treo with windows mobile anyway, It wouldnt run very fast with the treos smaller ram and CPU it hardly runs with 400 mhz cpu in the ppc 6600..

[bjork_rules]

I wouldnt want a treo with windows mobile anyway, It wouldnt run very fast with the treos smaller ram and CPU it hardly runs with 400 mhz cpu in the ppc 6600..
I can't believe how slow my 6600 is compared to my 650. Must be the winblowz mobile.

[Jordan]

yup, it's the OS. the 650 has a 312mhz processor... just puttin that out there

[meyerweb]

Who cares?

[Jordan]

was that towards me? If it was I'm sure most care and/or know, but for those of whom are investigating get the idea of what they are purchasing. Even if you weren't talking to me, your still an *****hole.

[Calvin&Hobbes]

I wouldnt want a treo with windows mobile anyway, It wouldnt run very fast with the treos smaller ram and CPU it hardly runs with 400 mhz cpu in the ppc 6600..

Yup they would have to up it. I had the Treo 600, I have several very close friends and coworkers with the 650, and I now have the PPC-6600... and with the added mem and processor the they are both very fast. The only time I have seen slow downs with either phone has had to due with 3rd party software slowing down the system by hogging all the mem or resources or a defective unit. In fact I have found with the 128 mem on the PPC with the freedom to install any program in internal memory or SD card that WM2003, I have found I can plan my installations so all commonly used programs & utilities are installed on my internal memory with over 30 mb to spare for cache, docs, etc... that when loading large spreadsheets, etc.. My PPC will load faster than on my co-worker's Treo 650s . Because I am loading from internal memory and they are forced to load from their SD cards because of the size of the spreadsheets.

Basically, both are fast. Both have good proccessors for their needs. Both have good OS platforms. Just the PPC-6600 has more internal memory to play with and WM2003 gives more freedom by not being forced to install certain programs in internal memory that you would rather have installed on the SD card.

[neotope]

I would get a new Treo if the PTT was as good as it is on my i830.

[DJ_Vitamin_J]

the only way i will buy a new pda is if it comes with ptt

[wildmac]

The only way I'd buy a phone with PTT is if my wife didn't know about PTT... :-)

[bjork_rules]

My 650 is faster than my 6600 right out of the box. I've got it overclocked to 468MHz right now and the thing FLIES. I haven't used the 6600 in a long time and probably won't use it again until EV-DO is out if Sprint decides to let the 6600 use their new system.

[wildmac]

My 650 is faster than my 6600 right out of the box. I've got it overclocked to 468MHz right now and the thing FLIES. I haven't used the 6600 in a long time and probably won't use it again until EV-DO is out if Sprint decides to let the 6600 use their new system.


OK, where's the thread on overclocking a Treo 650. haven't heard of that yet. (nothing came up in a search....)

[fl00d_pr0z]

It's a secret widlmac :D
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By Richard Shim, and Dawn Kawamoto, CNET News.com
Published on ZDNet News: May 25, 2005, 4:00 AM PT

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The deliberately simple nature of the Palm operating system was so inspiring to Rick Broida that in 1997 he started a magazine, Tap, dedicated to devices using the handheld operating system.

Long a fan of the handhelds and operating system, the Commerce Township, Mich., freelance writer has watched both decline over the years following inventory problems and a cooling of the once-hot handheld market. Hardware maker PalmOne remains the market leader, but the OS company, PalmSource, is, as one analyst put it, "a company in transition with a risky strategy."

Broida is more plainspoken.

"They were the leader, now they're the follower," he said. "There's no question Windows Mobile has passed it by in certain areas and the Palm OS has not kept up. It just seems like they're sitting on their hands."

After ambitious plans to embed the operating system in new classes of devices such as smart phones and advanced phones--which were expected to far surpass the handheld industry in terms of shipments and growth--PalmSource is struggling against similar suppliers, a shrinking market and fewer manufacturers interested in its operating systems than expected.

This is not what executives had in mind when they first broke off from handheld maker PalmOne in 2003. When PalmOne and PalmSource were part of Palm, licensees were concerned that the OS company would favor the hardware company when it came to making new software features available. The split was expected to allow PalmSource to seek more licensees without having them worry about competing directly with PalmOne.

But instead, the number of PalmSource licensees shrank. Sony left the handheld market, and PalmOne acquired Handspring, which was No. 2 in market share.

Wrestling with Redmond
The tough times have continued for PalmSource. Its chief executive, David Nagel, abruptly resigned Sunday without giving a reason, and for the first time devices shipped using Microsoft's handheld operating system surpassed the Palm OS for the year in 2004, according to research firm IDC.

Microsoft is also expected to increase its lead in the handheld market--this year 49 percent of handhelds shipped worldwide will use Windows Mobile, and by 2009 that number is expected to jump to 56 percent. PalmSource's share will shrink from 44 percent in 2005 to 38 percent by 2009.

More troubling is the fact that traditional handhelds are still the major source of PalmSource's revenues. That's not the way it was supposed to be.

The company has developed Cobalt, a new OS for smart phones, but customers have yet to release a device using it.

"Cobalt was supposed to bring them significant growth through new licensees and new form factors," said Kevin Burden, a research analyst with IDC. "Oh my god, yeah, it's been slow in coming--that's a nice way of putting it."

But PalmSource says devices using Cobalt are on the way.

Interim PalmSource CEO Patrick McVeigh said the "pipeline" for Cobalt is building nicely and declined to further elaborate. He did note, however, that it typically takes smart phone makers roughly 18 months to develop new products.

One developer with an Italian company that makes software for PDAs and smart phones attributed PalmSource's licensing woes with Cobalt to the timing of the company's product announcements.

Shortly after PalmSource was spun out, the company announced its new operating system, Cobalt 6.0. In announcing the new OS, the company also highlighted its product road map, which included a feature-laden version, Cobalt 6.1.

"Showing the road map was an error, because the licensees wanted to wait for 6.1," the Italian developer said. "The first version had no phone features, no VGA and no Bluetooth. It only had the user interface, so it was too expensive for the licensees to develop."

So as a number of licensees patiently sat on the sidelines waiting for Cobalt 6.1, which debuted late last year, PalmSource repeated the snafu, the developer said.

After Cobalt 6.1 came out, PalmSource soon announced it had acquired China MobileSoft and, as a result, would offer Linux.

"When they announced they would offer the Palm OS on Linux, licensees wanted to wait for that, so the same thing is happening," the developer added.

Hong Kong-based device maker Group Sense PDA said it would ship a smart phone based on Cobalt in the United States by the fourth quarter. But will it be tempting enough for carriers, who, as Burden said, "hold all the purse strings"?

Device makers and cellular carriers will likely want to go with a more tried-and-true OS for new cell phones, such as those from Microsoft, Symbian and Research In Motion, Burden said.

Sibling squabbles ahead?
A major source of concern for the company is its relationship with its No. 1 licensee and former sister company PalmOne. The handheld maker renewed its operating system license from PalmSource through 2009 for a minimum royalty of $148.5 million.

The deal ensures steady revenue. However, sources have said PalmOne has evaluated both Microsoft-based operating systems and at least one version of Linux as a potential alternative operating system to the Palm OS for its handheld devices.

Sources familiar with the tests said PalmOne has been quietly exploring operating systems to augment the Palm OS for some time. The company has also been exploring partnerships that could let it use a tailored version of the Linux operating system to run on its devices.

PalmSource has a Linux solution in the works. Cobalt will also be ported over to the new PalmSource Linux operating system once it has been developed, McVeigh said.

PalmSource's China MobileSoft acquisition was designed to expand the company's global presence and put Linux applications squarely in its product plans.

While the Palm OS will run as a software layer on top of Linux, and PalmSource plans to contribute to the Linux community, the company won't release the Palm OS code to the public.

PalmSource could have a Linux-based operating system available in 18 months, said Pablo A. Perez-Fernandez, an equity research analyst with Stanford Financial Group.

"It would cost less to develop and give them more opportunities especially in China," Perez-Fernandez said. "However, it's a risky strategy since they don't have any licensees yet...they wouldn't see a big increase in revenues for four to six quarters."

The Linux-based operating system would allow PalmSource to tap the potentially large feature phone market, which encompasses phones that aren't advanced smart phones like the Treo 650 but that include digital cameras and other capabilities beyond sending and receiving calls.

The operating system would allow carriers to incorporate a standard operating system into feature phones, which make up a majority of the phone market. By 2008, worldwide shipments of feature phones will reach 575 million units, far bigger than the smart phone market, Perez-Fernandez said.

The risk? Plenty of development remains to be done on the Linux operating system.

"There's a lot of interest," Perez-Fernandez said, adding "but that's very different from commitment."

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