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" Sorry guys, no pictures yet (trust us, it doesn’t look too different from what they’ve shown us) but Moto has CDMA versions of their four-letter lineup (RAZR, SLVR, PEBL) on the way—we should expect foreign versions in Q3/Q4 this year, with a possible release pending for Q1 2006 in North America. "
a buddy of mine is doing a coop with motorola and he's been telling me that there will be one for sprint, I told him no way, but maybe he's right
flipn0tic
03-15-2005, 07:39 PM
i'm gonna put all my money on odds that these phones are NOT coming to sprint...
sledgehammer
03-15-2005, 07:44 PM
I would be all over this phone like white on rice. Putting $500 aside right now, hoping sooner than later to take it out.
Assuming that Sprint doesn't tell Motorolla to cripple the BT. Awww, who am I kidding, of course they will. :(
RattDawg
03-15-2005, 08:03 PM
Would be sweet. Ive always have had the best luck with Moto phones. Its to bad that Sprints selection has always been limited. One of those Ill beleive it when I see it.
BigSteve
03-15-2005, 08:10 PM
The time has come people! Hello MOTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ted
03-15-2005, 08:13 PM
forget the 5600... a CDMA razor! this would even fire me up with gadget lust! where's mcurtiss?
*man, i need to shave, LOL*
The Oracle
03-15-2005, 08:18 PM
^Was that really needed? :huh:
Mantichora
03-15-2005, 08:34 PM
I would buy this phone in a New York minute!
I used the Razr with AT&T/Cingular for a few days and I loved it.
Invader J
03-15-2005, 08:43 PM
Hello? 2006? Last year's tech! Thanks for nothing Moto, regardless of carrier.
Ted
03-15-2005, 08:58 PM
^Was that really needed? :huh:
Yes, because most of these folks know I was biting my tongue in half in order to avoid taking a vacation. It's all good. I DO need to shave.
CoreyTheGent
03-15-2005, 09:01 PM
Hello? 2006? Last year's tech! Thanks for nothing Moto, regardless of carrier.That's what the last sentence in my post was for, skepticism such as this. I'm sure Motorola is fully aware that by Q1 2006, this phone and a 1 megapixel camera will not be sufficient. By then, we'll likely be seeing the next generation Razr for North America, maybe that V1150 or whatever with the 2mp camera.
ssaifull
03-15-2005, 09:02 PM
Hello? 2006? Last year's tech! Thanks for nothing Moto, regardless of carrier.
I agree... unless they charge 1/2 price for it by then, I'm not interested.
The Oracle
03-15-2005, 09:05 PM
That's what the last sentence in my post was for, skepticism such as this. I'm sure Motorola is fully aware that by Q1 2006, this phone and a 1 megapixel camera will not be sufficient. By then, we'll likely be seeing the next generation Razr for North America, maybe that V1150 or whatever with the 2mp camera.
That device is only going to be initially available for Europe. The mega-pixles will rise this year, as clearly evident by Samsung. 2 2MP, 2 5MP, 3 3MP, and 1 7MP!
eman
03-15-2005, 09:05 PM
maybe i am crazy......i played with this phone and thought it was such a p.o.s.....it felt like a toy phone like a kid would play with.....it was the worst design and cheapest feeling keypad i ever felt......come on.....you mean to tell me this phone is worth $500 because it is skinny......you have to do better then that......motorola has great ideas.....they just have to learn how to put out a better quality product.....
The Oracle
03-15-2005, 09:07 PM
Correction, it's $599.
CoreyTheGent
03-15-2005, 09:13 PM
When the hell is this newest account going to be locked? The Moderators obviously have no plan to combat this sh*t so the least they could do is hurry up with the lockings.
sneak
03-15-2005, 09:16 PM
i'm gonna put all my money on odds that these phones are NOT coming to sprint...
Correct. This would require logical research. And we all know how well Sprint does at that.
P.S. I cut the knot today with Sprint, prancing [not literally] down the open road with my v551 :).
parrott84
03-15-2005, 09:17 PM
maybe i am crazy......i played with this phone and thought it was such a p.o.s.....it felt like a toy phone like a kid would play with.....it was the worst design and cheapest feeling keypad i ever felt......come on.....you mean to tell me this phone is worth $500 because it is skinny......you have to do better then that......motorola has great ideas.....they just have to learn how to put out a better quality product.....
I agree, the keypads do look and feel cheap, i also think for the 600 bucks it should hve a megapixel camera which i currently doesn't. plus, very wide and wierd feeling, but ....ya gotta love the screen :D
CoreyTheGent
03-15-2005, 09:28 PM
I've never felt the keypad or even held one for that matter. I can just tell from the specs that it's not worth the money they're asking. It's all about status, however.
sel1965
03-15-2005, 09:32 PM
I played with one of these phones that a friend of mine tried out for about 3 or 4 days. He returned it just for the fact it felt cheep and for all that money too. No it's going to take a pretty darn good phone to get me out of this 5600. They can keep trying I for one love new technology so if and when something better comes out I would like to have it, but it won't be this phone. Of course it has to be better than what I have now!
The Oracle
03-15-2005, 09:33 PM
^Agree 100%, on both points.
Halo1982
03-15-2005, 09:37 PM
It's $450 or so unlocked/unbranded...=P
I'll probably pick one up for fun, whenever it drops to around $200+. I'm doing that for the V80 too...I've always wanted one and now that its around $200 I'm going to pick one up when I sell the Treo. Ahh I love GSM. :D
bluecoyote
03-15-2005, 09:40 PM
This will have a megapix camera. But hey, Dave or one of you mods- something is wrong with the forum. I can't post new threads- it gives me an error message saying I already posted it, but the threads don't show up- regardless of browser.
flipn0tic
03-15-2005, 09:47 PM
Am I the only one that thinks the RAZR is hideously ugly?
And a little off topic, but hey Oracle, how's that 5500 treating you? I'm loving mine, and I changed from a Samsung (aka Samcrap). Samsung is terrible. So are all other cell phone manufacturers and carriers that come from SK. Crap crap crap = Samsung. Don't you agree? I know you agree.
bluecoyote
03-15-2005, 09:51 PM
Am I the only one that thinks the RAZR is hideously ugly?
And a little off topic, but hey Oracle, how's that 5500 treating you? I'm loving mine, and I changed from a Samsung (aka Samcrap). Samsung is terrible. So are all other cell phone manufacturers and carriers that come from SK. Crap crap crap = Samsung. Don't you agree? I know you agree.
Yes. You should consult an aesthetic therapist. As for the rest of your post, it's like the pot calling the kettle black.
flipn0tic
03-15-2005, 09:55 PM
Yes. You should consult an aesthetic therapist. As for the rest of your post, it's like the pot calling the kettle black.
I have no brand bias, if that's what you're implying. I like Samsung a lot, actually, and plan to buy the A800 if it lives up to expectations. Maybe you didn't get the humor in my post.
suneeboyboy
03-15-2005, 09:55 PM
The only thing that can pull me away from my 5600 is a 5600 with Bluetooth. Nothing less! I want a a 1.3+mp cam, rl, mp3 player, qvga, and bluetooth.
bluecoyote
03-15-2005, 09:58 PM
I have no brand bias, if that's what you're implying. I like Samsung a lot, actually, and plan to buy the A800 if it lives up to expectations. Maybe you didn't get the humor in my post.
My bad, I forgot the emoticon. :hee: there we go.
Anyway, the people who buy the RAZR buy it because they appreciate innovative engineering.
CoreyTheGent
03-15-2005, 10:02 PM
Ehhh.. that's stretching it.
I say it's because of status.
JoMamma
03-15-2005, 10:04 PM
Status and the fact that they porbably dont know anything really technical about phones and think its cool because it can fit in there pocket and not be noticable.. although you would think it would show sides because its so fat.. it reminds of as if a phone gor smashed and it sjust spread out sideways.. haha
Visual Voicemail
03-15-2005, 10:10 PM
You people are going nuts over a hyped up piece of sh*t. The RAZR sucks and I will never buy a phone that expensive again. All it has is looks and even the looks are on par with other cell phones. The thin/small look was so two years ago, now people want bigger phones with bigger screens.
I agree with flip that the phone is ugly. And its way too overpriced!
If your willing to spend over $500 for a phone, then money wise your priorities are in the wrong places. How about invest that money in something that will actually gain you some money.
The Oracle
03-15-2005, 10:19 PM
The only thing that can pull me away from my 5600 is a 5600 with Bluetooth. Nothing less! I want a a 1.3+mp cam, rl, mp3 player, qvga, and bluetooth.
The A880 might live out to your expectations, buth without the QVGA. The A940 will definitly, though without ready link and a QVGA. The A800 will live out, but no bluetooth or RL. Currently, no phone on Sprint will come close to offering that feature set.
bluecoyote
03-15-2005, 10:31 PM
You people are going nuts over a hyped up piece of sh*t. The RAZR sucks and I will never buy a phone that expensive again. All it has is looks and even the looks are on par with other cell phones. The thin/small look was so two years ago, now people want bigger phones with bigger screens.
I agree with flip that the phone is ugly. And its way too overpriced!
If your willing to spend over $500 for a phone, then money wise your priorities are in the wrong places. How about invest that money in something that will actually gain you some money.
Ever held this phone and brought it home? It's a $500.00 phone, and it feels like a $500.00 phone. The Sanyo 5600 doesn't feel like a $430.00 phone. My Toshiba doesn't feel like a $350.00 phone. The design on it is a delight- the keypad is amazingly tactile. Aluminum is the way it should be. Some of us actually like our phones to have a combination of features and engineering (I mean, this phone DOES have Bluetooth, it has the best 176 x 220 screen i've seen, a wonderful VGA camera, and it's got a standard USB connector and iSync compatibility)
So it lacks an mp3 player. Hear that? That's the sound of most people out there not caring. While I want my cell phone to have features, I think a high end phone shouldn't feel like the free POS Samsung Sprint hands out to everyone who signs their soul for two years.
Visual Voicemail
03-15-2005, 10:44 PM
Ever held this phone and brought it home? It's a $500.00 phone, and it feels like a $500.00 phone. The Sanyo 5600 doesn't feel like a $430.00 phone. My Toshiba doesn't feel like a $350.00 phone. The design on it is a delight- the keypad is amazingly tactile. Aluminum is the way it should be. Some of us actually like our phones to have a combination of features and engineering (I mean, this phone DOES have Bluetooth, it has the best 176 x 220 screen i've seen, a wonderful VGA camera, and it's got a standard USB connector and iSync compatibility)
So it lacks an mp3 player. Hear that? That's the sound of most people out there not caring.
Hear This? It's the sound of me not giving a f**k about bluetooth, the "best screen", a vga camera, a usb connector, or isync. It's a cell phone and thats all it is, nothing more. Get the fact that it's main purpose is to. . . guess what. . . ahh shucks, i will let you figure that out on your own. Be my guest spend HALF A GRAND on a phone that will be outdated in less than three months. It will be old news just like all these other phones out there.
Why spend so much on a phone, there just like computers. They get out dated really quickly and you don't see most people buying new pc's every three months just because it comes out with a new feature that they like.
One place where I guess I'm contradicting myself at though, is the fact that I have "brought" the phone home. Like a dumb ass I purchased it because I was all surrounded in the hype of my friends having the RAZR and I wanted one too. After a week of realizing that it was just another MOTO I returned it. Whew. . . I was so happy to have my money back in my hand and I was so glad to bring that back home.
My money was all green, and it smelled new, and it had crisp edges. The pres was looking back at me when I looked down at him on the bill. My 100s actually felt like real 100s in my hand. :woohoo:
bluecoyote
03-15-2005, 10:49 PM
Do you know of another phone that matches the RAZR's fit, finish, assembly, materials, or form factor? Another one on the horizon?
Now... interesting things that improve the phone-like quality of the RAZR
1) Bluetooth allows you to send pictures / data to your computer.
2) iSync compatibility allows you to sync your contacts. That's important!
3) USB Connector - no special cable required to hook it up.
4) Good VGA Camera - well, it's nice
Also, a year down the road, the Aluminum on the RAZR will look much better than the plastic on the Sanyo.
CoreyTheGent
03-15-2005, 10:52 PM
What in the hell are you trying to argue for, blue? You and him are on two completely different wavelengths. There will be no middle ground met. Just agree to disagree and move on.
Visual Voicemail
03-15-2005, 10:53 PM
The only thing that I like is the aluminum case and your right it will stand up better than plastic. But I have a leather case on my sanyo so it's not even like i really look at it anyways. I always put my cellies in cases because no matter how much i always tell myself i'm never going to drop the phone. . . i end up dropping it.
CoreyTheGent
03-15-2005, 10:55 PM
With reports of some Razr V3's rusting, I'd rather have the plastic.
bluecoyote
03-15-2005, 10:56 PM
The v3 can't rust- it's anodized, and mine's held up well.
flipn0tic
03-15-2005, 10:57 PM
Also, a year down the road, the Aluminum on the RAZR will look much better than the plastic on the Sanyo.
a year down the road, the type to buy the RAZR is likely the type to have already replaced it with the next overpriced, gimmicky phone so it wouldn't matter.
bluecoyote
03-15-2005, 10:59 PM
I think the RAZR, like the iPod, exhibits the type of brilliant design that makes it universally appealing beyond the novelty. (Much like the Nokia 8860, which still turns heads today.) Thus, other phones will come out that are flashy, but the RAZR's brilliant design will still turn heads.
The Oracle
03-15-2005, 11:04 PM
I think the RAZR, like the iPod, exhibits the type of brilliant design that makes it universally appealing beyond the novelty. (Much like the Nokia 8860, which still turns heads today.) Thus, other phones will come out that are flashy, but the RAZR's brilliant design will still turn heads.
There inlies your first problem. Neither product "exhibits brilliant design". The iPod is simply way over hyped, and has a cult following behind it. The same goes for the V3, though without the cult.
bluecoyote
03-15-2005, 11:09 PM
There inlies your first problem. Neither product "exhibits brilliant design". The iPod is simply way over hyped, and has a cult following behind it. The same goes for the V3, though without the cult.
I know not of another mp3 player that exceeds the iPod in terms of form or function. While some chalk up useless features such as an FM tuner (snort) , nothing exceeds its design, materials, or user experience, much like the RAZR (mostly design)
CoreyTheGent
03-15-2005, 11:10 PM
The v3 can't rust- it's anodized, and mine's held up well.Anodization is a process which can make it heavily rust-resistant but believe me, it can rust.
CoreyTheGent
03-15-2005, 11:12 PM
I know not of another mp3 player that exceeds the iPod in terms of form or function. While some chalk up useless features such as an FM tuner (snort) , nothing exceeds its design, materials, or user experience, much like the RAZR (mostly design)I agree with you 100% blue, unfortunately you're speaking with a person whom has a distinct hatred for both the iPod and the Razr. There is no reasoning. He also can't seem to grasp the fact that without the iPod there wouldn't even be a Samsung YH mp3 player.
The Oracle
03-15-2005, 11:15 PM
I know not of another mp3 player that exceeds the iPod in terms of form or function. While some chalk up useless features such as an FM tuner (snort) , nothing exceeds its design, materials, or user experience, much like the RAZR (mostly design)
Design? An overly sensative click wheel? A scratch prone rear casing?
Materials? Give it up, the Samsung YH-925, and YH-820 offer your favorite...Anodized aluminum casings.
User experience? They have fully graphical UI's.
Useless features? Try support for 5 different formats, USB host capabilities, and in-line encoding, not to mention voice recording with the built in microphone. Oh, and did I mention FM radio's?
The Oracle
03-15-2005, 11:17 PM
I agree with you 100% blue, unfortunately you're speaking with a person whom has a distinct hatred for both the iPod and the Razr. There is no reasoning. He also can't seem to grasp the fact that without the iPod there wouldn't even be a Samsung YH mp3 player.
And without the Ford Model T, we wouldn't have the Honda Accord. Does that make it only right to salute the Ford Taurus over the Accord for something that happened in the past? Hell no.
CoreyTheGent
03-15-2005, 11:18 PM
And without the Ford Model T, we wouldn't have the Honda Accord. Does that make it only right to salute the Ford Taurus over the Accord for something that happened in the past? Hell no.If the Ford Model T managed to still out-sell the Honda Accord today, then hell yeah!
The Oracle
03-15-2005, 11:20 PM
Try this: The Ford Taurus almost comes close to Honda Accord sales every year. So should I still only praise the Ford becasue their company invented the mass produced automobile?
There is a difference between formulating your own subjective necessities and following the crowd's.
bluecoyote
03-15-2005, 11:22 PM
Design? An overley sensative click wheel?
Materials? Give it up, the Samsung YH-925, and YH-820 offer your favorite...Anodized aluminum casings.
User experience? They have fully graphical UI's.
Useless features? Try support for 5 different formats, USB host capabilities, and in-line encoding, not to mention voice recording with the built in microphone. Oh, and did I mention FM radio's?
The click wheel is perfect. It is second nature. There is absolutely nothing that compares to it, and I've owned 8 different mp3 players. If you're serious about music and getting to it as quick as possible, there is no substitute. No other manufacturer has come up with an improvement, which states the iPod 's design has clipped the perfection apex almost inhumanly close . Of all of the mp3 players I've owned, even FLASH ones, none were as quick to navigate, nor as 2nd nature of the controls. A graphical interface is also irrelevant since music is organized by playlists. The Firewire interface is superior (hey, I'm a Mac user, so no complaints here!) even though they've gotten rid of it :-( , the brilliant white design and gorgeous chrome back make it a gem to hold (although I personally like the Mini's design better) , it works as an external HDD, they work with the iTunes jukebox flawlessly, and I could go on.
(Oh, and who cares about lack of WMA support? One proprietary format is enough, thank you.)
If you don't understand why the iPod is a success, it's why you're not an industrial / product designer. :-)
Visual Voicemail
03-15-2005, 11:22 PM
I agree with flip again that the same peeps who are buying the RAZR now will be the same one's to replace it when something new and better comes out. Just like those peeps who had the original iPods, most of them went and bought the newer ones because of the so called "improvements" to the latest generations of the product.
The phone IS going to be replaced by something and it's just another novelty item.
Oh. . . and just to let you know, anodized aluminum can definitely rust! just takes longer to do so.
CoreyTheGent
03-15-2005, 11:24 PM
Try this: The Ford Taurus almost comes close to Honda Accord sales every year. So should I still only praise the Ford becasue their company invented the mass produced automobile?
There is a difference between formulating your own subjective necessities and following the crowd's.You're talking about something that's decades apart, pal, not what happened four years ago. Let's go back to four years after the Model T was invented, then you can talk to me with this ridiculous analogy.
Samsung made a product that rivals the iPod, there are still plenty of people that prefer an iPod over it. Not just because they're brand loyal to Apple or idiots of pop-culture (which is what you believe because it makes you sleep better at night), but because they like it more. It's simple, it serves its purpose and even more. It's classy, it's priceless. Samsung has a ways to go before they can be on Apple's level.
The Oracle
03-15-2005, 11:31 PM
See, but you are missing a crucial point. The name iPod has become synominous with the likes of "Tivo" and "Google". They have now became household nameplates, names which most everyone knows. Your right on one account, Samsung, and every other Digital Audio manufacture for that matter, has a long way to go to pick up the sales that goes along with name iPod. Apple will continue to benefit from the sales of the device though their frankly, very effective marketing campaign[s].
I am not trying to combat you in saying that Apple's don't sell well, because they sell excellently. All I am trying to say is that just becasue a device is so well known, so liked, so high selling, doesn't mean that in the world of competing devices that it is the all end best solution. You know that that's not how I think.
CoreyTheGent
03-15-2005, 11:32 PM
How the hell would I know how you think? You registered two days ago.
The Oracle
03-15-2005, 11:33 PM
I just guaged that you'd know from my earlier posts
flipn0tic
03-15-2005, 11:33 PM
How the hell would I know how you think? You registered two days ago.
:hee:
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bluecoyote
03-15-2005, 11:33 PM
Apple will continue to benefit from the sales of the device though their frankly, very effective marketing skills.
And, see, that's where you're absolutely wrong. Nobody I know of bought an iPod because they saw a "cool silhouette ad and wanted to be like that." They bought it because they want the best mp3 playing experience out there.
That's why people bought the RAZR. Not another phone out there feels as nice in the hand.
The Oracle
03-15-2005, 11:36 PM
It doesn't matter what the people you know did. Apple's marketing campaign only adds to the iPod hysteria going on in our culture today, ultimately becomming a supplement in the overall sales (not marketing) campaign. They are deemed the "cool" and "hip" thing to get. Their marketing campaign works the same way any other company's would. If you don't think that marketing helps, you need to take marketing 101, my freind, or at least learn how many iPods did Apple sell last year.
CoreyTheGent
03-15-2005, 11:43 PM
Yes, it's part of his attempts to belittle Apple, its products, and the many people worldwide who have purchased one of them. Make the world believe that everybody has an iPod just because they like the onyx people dancing in front of a green background, holding some white box with a string of the same color connecting it to their heads. Right. Marketing does help, but there's a little something called a return policy which lets people get their money back for products they feel are unsatisfactory. It's partly why Samsung's current mp3 player market share is somewhere at the bottom only rivaling the Dell DJ.
iPod and iTunes are the most perfect match that can only be rivaled by a remote control and its corresponding television set. They work seamlessly with no problems that can't be corrected with a simple reset. Tell that to the many whom are returning/unsatisfied with the Samsung YH because of Napster-To-Go's lackluster user ability.
The Oracle
03-15-2005, 11:48 PM
Tell that to the many whom are returning/unsatisfied with the Samsung YH because of Napster-To-Go's lackluster user ability.
And you know this from where? The NTG capability is awsome. Napter's market share is jumping like wild flowers currently. But alas, iTunes and iPod will remain supreme, for now.
Marlon_JB2
03-15-2005, 11:49 PM
And you know this from where? The NTG capability is awsome. Napter's market share is jumping like wild flowers currently. But alas, iTunes and iPod will remain supreme, for now.
Talk about thread hijacking. Can we get back to the RAZR, please?
So, I hear it's really expensive.
MisterFuhrman
03-15-2005, 11:50 PM
Something about these posts makes me imagine The Oracle wearing a tutu while talking on a Samsung A800 and serving kool-aid on a major airline flight. ;)
Marlon_JB2
03-15-2005, 11:51 PM
Something about these posts makes me imagine The Oracle wearing a tutu while talking on a Samsung A800 and serving kool-aid on a major airline flight.
:lol: :lmao:
jerereyn205
03-15-2005, 11:52 PM
Lmao. Yeah I'd buy the SLVR CDMA :D
jerereyn205
03-15-2005, 11:54 PM
Something about these posts makes me imagine The Oracle wearing a tutu while talking on a Samsung A800 and serving kool-aid on a major airline flight. ;)
LMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Oracle
03-15-2005, 11:55 PM
So, I hear it's really expensive.
Yes, you heard right.
Visual Voicemail
03-15-2005, 11:59 PM
marlon while your sitting back laughing at that post, I'm sitting back relaxin and laughing at all these people who would spend too much on phones. The price of these phones are ridiculous and it definitely doesnt take that much to make them.
The main point that we should all get, is that as humans we always want newer and better things. Just as sure as you get the new MOTO phones in your hands, there will be another set of hot phones that hit the market that will seem to do bigger and better things and you will go plunk HALF A GRAND down on yet another cellie. The RAZR will soon be old news and when it becomes that maybe then some of you will realize that the money spent on it could have been spent on something a lot more useful. After all, its just a cell.
Why consume and spend so much. . . oh i forgot, we are just human.
Marlon_JB2
03-16-2005, 12:04 AM
marlon while your sitting back laughing at that post, I'm sitting back relaxin and laughing at all these people who would spend too much on phones. The price of these phones are ridiculous and it definitely doesnt take that much to make them.
Oh of course! That's why I don't have a RAZR! Also, if you have read around the forum, I expressed interest in Sprint's LG - MM535, but since I saw the official price... I'm gonna be keeping my 8200, at least until my rebate comes in August. ;)
Visual Voicemail
03-16-2005, 12:05 AM
For that much. . . my phone would never leave my hand and it better have an anti-gravity mechanism. That way if it ever left my hand it better not hit the ground or I'm sueing someone (I don't know who, but someone is gonna pay dammit!!!
Might as well have these features too. . .
anti-theft
anti-lost
anti-getting old
anti-defects
The world's best antenna in a cell phone.
the list goes on and on.
Visual Voicemail
03-16-2005, 12:08 AM
Oh of course! That's why I don't have a RAZR! Also, if you have read around the forum, I expressed interest in Sprint's LG - MM535, but since I saw the official price... I'm gonna be keeping my 8200, at least until my rebate comes in August. ;)
One thing that I hate about that rebate thing is they make you "instantly" agree to another contract but they won't instantly give you your rebate. . . they make it a lame mail-in rebate because they know how much people hate to deal with 'em.
Sprint is so lame for that. . .
MisterFuhrman
03-16-2005, 12:12 AM
One thing that I hate about that rebate thing is they make you "instantly" agree to another contract but they won't instantly give you your rebate. . . they make it a lame mail-in rebate because they know how much people hate to deal with 'em.
Sprint is so lame for that. . .
Well, I would say it's quite a bit better than the big nothing they gave out a couple of years ago. I, for one, am loyal to my service provider. No phone, and next to no offer for that matter, could sway me away from Sprint.
Also, I'm pretty sure that some companies like Cingular only give meager discounts when upgrading. I think $150 is fairly substantial. However, I believe Sprint will one day put in place a system for instant rebates for upgrades as it could lower overhead and cut costs.
Visual Voicemail
03-16-2005, 12:17 AM
Yeah I'm not even going to lie, so far Sprint PCS has proven to be better than T-Mobile (my previous carrier) in a few areas and vice versa. Sprint has had better reception for me in most areas and the ready link is a cool feature. But t-mobile had better pricing on the games and instant messenger services. I guess all carriers have their pros and cons.
jerereyn205
03-16-2005, 02:52 AM
If you live in Socal youll appreciate SPCS or VZW. In the mountains service is better than anyone else. Considering I only have one bar lol but I've never dropped a call :D .
Touchless21
03-16-2005, 07:16 AM
Guys there's no reason to even have this thread b/c the phone will be Verizon. They always do that. You never see, "'Company' is making a CDMA version of their 'whatever' and its coming to Sprint!!!" Are phones are usually secrets. When you think about it VZ is like the GSM of CDMA, they pretty much get most of the phones they have have or some very close models.
LAYZEEDUCK
03-16-2005, 09:27 AM
marlon while your sitting back laughing at that post, I'm sitting back relaxin and laughing at all these people who would spend too much on phones. The price of these phones are ridiculous and it definitely doesnt take that much to make them.
the same could be applied for almost everything around you.
some people just feel it's worth more to spend more on a product they really like.
there are people who spend $200 on jeans. is it wrong? of course it. purely subjective.
and the reason why most people like the razr (and ipod) and that it's innovative; it's different. it's not the usual design of the norm.
LAYZEEDUCK
03-16-2005, 09:29 AM
One thing that I hate about that rebate thing is they make you "instantly" agree to another contract but they won't instantly give you your rebate. . . they make it a lame mail-in rebate because they know how much people hate to deal with 'em.
Sprint is so lame for that. . .
better that, than to renew at the date that you actually receive the rebate.
bluecoyote
03-16-2005, 09:32 AM
Actually, the only nationwide CDMA provider this phone COULD come to is Sprint. Verizon requires all of their phones to have an external antenna, which isn't possible with the RAZR.
MisterFuhrman
03-16-2005, 09:35 AM
Actually, the only nationwide CDMA provider this phone COULD come to is Sprint. Verizon requires all of their phones to have an external antenna, which isn't possible with the RAZR.
How do you explain the XV6600 then? Also, the Kyocera SE-47 Slider had no external antenna. Your source on that is misinformed.
EDIT: The SE-47 did have an antenna, upon further review. But the XV6600 does not.
bluecoyote
03-16-2005, 09:43 AM
http://img2.phonescoop.com/img/p/245/322_2.jpg Hrm... what's that? An external antenna.
As for the XV6600, this doesn't apply to EV-DO phones / Smartphones from what I hear.
MisterFuhrman
03-16-2005, 09:46 AM
I edited my post prior to your post. I was doing that from memory. Don't say "Verizon requires all of their phones to have an external antenna," when that is not the case. The XV6600 is indeed a phone, and furthermore, 90% of their phones will be EV-DO once it is completely rolled out. So their rule about "antennas" is really no rule at all.
bluecoyote
03-16-2005, 09:56 AM
That's from a Verizon technician.
TheNexxuvas
03-16-2005, 10:09 AM
Let me just say this, for a $750 phone they didn't put jack in it.
Sure it's a neat design, BUT...the GSM version has no video capture, has a low quality camera, and a semi-ok quality resolution on a SUPER huge screen.
What you are paying for here is design, and I admit it , the design is wicked cool.
My A700 does more than this phone, and any of you 5600'ers would be pretty bored, sorry to tell you. This phone is not feature heavy.
What good is it to do video playback when you can't even capture video in the first place??? If a couple were to buy these phones they wouldn't be sending video mail back and forth for kicks.
bluecoyote
03-16-2005, 10:45 AM
Your A700 doesn't have Bluetooth, and the software can be upgraded to do video capture. Video streaming is the idea.
TheNexxuvas
03-16-2005, 10:57 AM
Your A700 doesn't have Bluetooth, and the software can be upgraded to do video capture. Video streaming is the idea.
Bluetooth isn't a selling point for me. I have bluetooth phones collecting dust at this time. :hee:
Nothing an adapter for my A700 couldn't fix though. I do not need bluetooth for data transfer, since, I have access to cables, however, an adapter will get me into a headset, so I'm set.
bluecoyote
03-16-2005, 11:59 AM
Personally, I find Bluetooth to be an immensely useful tool. For some it is a moot point, but the accessability with Bluetooth surpasses what the Sprint phones allow with cables.
CoreyTheGent
03-16-2005, 12:03 PM
What happens when Bluetooth becomes more widely available, perhaps even a standard? You might someday (if not already, I wouldn't know) be able to transfer files from your computer to your phone with a Bluetooth connection alone. You never know what new wonders the technology will end up performing for us, so I say it's better to have than have not.
bluecoyote
03-16-2005, 12:06 PM
I already do that with my Nokia 3650. It's pretty awesome to just hit a button and have it appear on your desktop. (Or, if you use Windoze, hit a button, watch the Blue Screen of Death appear, restart, wait for it to boot up...) :hee:
CoreyTheGent
03-16-2005, 12:08 PM
How does it work, exactly? Did you have to buy something extra? I was thinking along the lines of it becoming standard in computers like a USB connection.
FloorMatt
03-16-2005, 12:10 PM
Well.....certain computers are having Bluetooth built in. You can also get Bluetooth Access points and modems. It's everywhere! :eek:
bluecoyote
03-16-2005, 12:28 PM
Exactly. My Powerbook has Bluetooth built in. Back in Windoze, I had a USB adapter, and Bluetooth was flaky, but shoot, it's great to be able to just send stuff from your picturephone to your PDA to your laptop freely. In fact, I use my Nokia 3650 as a flash drive.... I'll often keep it in my backpack and access it from my laptop. Works great. If Cingular didn't suck so much with their data rates, I'd use it as a modem, too.
Jaggrey
03-16-2005, 01:17 PM
Try to keep this thread on topic or to the cooler it goes... or just locked altogether.
Touchless21
03-16-2005, 01:40 PM
What happens when Bluetooth becomes more widely available, perhaps even a standard? You might someday (if not already, I wouldn't know) be able to transfer files from your computer to your phone with a Bluetooth connection alone. You never know what new wonders the technology will end up performing for us, so I say it's better to have than have not.
Its kinda unlikely that bluetooth in general will become any more available as it is. Wireless USB from Intel will take over soon, not only b/c it may be better, but b/c when it does come out they will be shoving it down our throats.
slffl
03-16-2005, 03:31 PM
That device is only going to be initially available for Europe. The mega-pixles will rise this year, as clearly evident by Samsung. 2 2MP, 2 5MP, 3 3MP, and 1 7MP!
Amazing how people fall for this megapixel marketing. You can have a 100 megapixel sensor, but if it's still using the same lenses these small phones need, you're pictures aren't going to look much better.
It's like taking pictures using large format film and using a pinhole as the lense.
Visual Voicemail
03-16-2005, 03:42 PM
bluetooth is just another reason for you to go and buy more accs. for your phone. just another way for the phone comp. to make more money off ya.
but back to the topic. . . thats about all that phone has cause like peeps have stated above, the phone is not feature heavy. and whoever it was that replied to my last post. . . peeps shouldn't spend that much on a phone and whatever it was about spending $200 on jeans: thats just plain DUMB! but hey if you got the money to waste, do it cause thats exactly what your doing, wasting it.
go ahead and try this: drop $500 in the toilet and flush it, that will give you the same feeling as buying the razr. you will get all excited and want to rip the toilet off to chase after your money in the plumbing. your adrenaline wil be at its max and therefore you will enjoy that much more than buying a cell that will fade out in the next few months. :-)
LAYZEEDUCK
03-16-2005, 04:09 PM
whoever it was that replied to my last post. . . peeps shouldn't spend that much on a phone and whatever it was about spending $200 on jeans: thats just plain DUMB! but hey if you got the money to waste, do it cause thats exactly what your doing, wasting it.
obviously, we all have our different views on what we deem is of extra value (and worth).
for someone that thinks spending $500 on a fone is worthless, may think spending $50k on a car is ok, while the person spending $500 on a fone thinks $50k is way too much for a car..
we all draw our lines differently.
go ahead and try this: drop $500 in the toilet and flush it, that will give you the same feeling as buying the razr. you will get all excited and want to rip the toilet off to chase after your money in the plumbing. your adrenaline wil be at its max and therefore you will enjoy that much more than buying a cell that will fade out in the next few months. :-)
many people do do that. in fact, millions of people do that every month. it's called gambling=)
CaliSurfer008
03-16-2005, 04:27 PM
you know that by the time this is released..there will be something MUCH MUCH better..
it's just ridiculous how neglected us CDMA users are :(
bluecoyote
03-16-2005, 04:38 PM
I don't know of another phone with such great build quality and materials in its construction anywhere NEAR its price. Compare it to a Mobiado or Vertu.... you've got a phone with a good deal of features at a nice price.
Sprint King
03-16-2005, 06:09 PM
Amazing how people fall for this megapixel marketing. You can have a 100 megapixel sensor, but if it's still using the same lenses these small phones need, you're pictures aren't going to look much better.
It's like taking pictures using large format film and using a pinhole as the lense.
pinhole lens?
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000847036344/
Mixman
03-16-2005, 08:53 PM
Let me tell you one of the reasons I left Sprint...Raz'r for only $250. I have not looked back since. For all of you without Bluetooth, wait till you have it and a good BT headset, you will not want to do without.
For me the Raz'r is a solid phone. I didn't buy it for status or as a full featured gadget. I bought it for practicality. I can put this in my pocket and not even notice it's there. I can use a wireless headset and walk around the house and talk without my phone. I can also stare at two damn gorgeous screens on my phone and have good sound quality to boot.
I look at the 5600 and I am not at all impressed. I guess if you want a lot of gadgets in your phone, then it's the phone for you. I think for the several years Sanyo has been putting out phones for Sprint they could be a lot innovative. I don't see that phone as being that big a change from my 5300, except for more features that I don't need. I just hope Sprint gets more of a variety of phones that appeal to those that want a full featured phone and those that just want a more practical, sleek design.
bluecoyote
03-16-2005, 09:29 PM
Well said, Mixman
Visual Voicemail
03-17-2005, 12:12 AM
bluecoyote you should just go ahead and get married to the razr and get it over with. :)
FloorMatt
03-17-2005, 12:14 AM
bluecoyote you should just go ahead and get married to the razr and get it over with. :)
But,.... blue needs to get a divorce from the VM4050, first :p
sledgehammer
03-17-2005, 01:52 PM
You know, I have been following this topic since I first saw it, and I have yet to see anything intelligent stated against this phone aside from that it is expensive.
All insults aside, from both sides of the fence, this phone is worth $500 to me. Could I buy a Treo for the same? Yeah, I guess I could, but then I would be stuck with a substandard pda in a year. (Not to mention the substandard camera on the unit.) For me, a great BT phone, which the current LG is NOT IMHO, WITHOUT A CAMERA, with some style to it, is worth the dollars. I want to pair it to a high-end Palm, and have the option to upgrade the PDA separate from the phone. I like having a separate quality camera, a separate phone, and a separate PDA.
I know several people with the GSM Razr, and they are really happy with it. They like the quality, and I value their opinions and my own, as I have made a few calls on their phones and liked it.
You don't think so? Then don't buy one. I don't like the 5600. Or the 7400. So, guess what. I didn't buy one. And I haven't been vomiting up acid to those that did, either. You like the phone, great. Enjoy. I will, as previously stated, keep my $500 aside for the Razr.
Don't like my opinion? Keep your insults to yourself, enjoy your as-cheap-as-we-can-make-it-for-the-masses phone, and live well.
bluecoyote
03-17-2005, 04:16 PM
I am a firm believer in polyphony. I love my Nokia 3650 too much to part with it.
mcurtiss1970
03-17-2005, 04:17 PM
I am a firm believer in polyphony.
so go back to Utah, you freak!
seriously, variety is the spice of life.
Ted
03-17-2005, 06:21 PM
polyphony is multiple sounds. i think you mean polygamy?
FloorMatt
03-17-2005, 06:23 PM
polyphony is multiple sounds. i think you mean polygamy?
1. It's St. Patrick's Day
2. Look at his avatar
mcurtiss1970
03-17-2005, 06:43 PM
1. It's St. Patrick's Day
2. Look at his avatar
i'm not even drunk and you got that. poor theo.
FloorMatt
03-17-2005, 07:09 PM
i'm not even drunk and you got that. poor theo.
:eyebrow:
Well...ok...Bill.
So how about that RAZR?
Ianbiz
03-17-2005, 07:11 PM
wont happen. But me want.
mcurtiss1970
03-17-2005, 07:38 PM
:eyebrow:
Well...ok...Bill.
So how about that RAZR?
not a dig on you, i promise. :D
Touchless21
03-17-2005, 08:14 PM
polyphony is multiple sounds. i think you mean polygamy?
LOL!!!!! Reading posts, post by post, cracks me up. Especially when u don't understand a post and the next one clears it up
Visual Voicemail
03-17-2005, 08:28 PM
Don't like my opinion? Keep your insults to yourself, enjoy your as-cheap-as-we-can-make-it-for-the-masses phone, and live well.
Sorry. . . but I'm going to continue to buy my as-cheap-as-we-can-make-it-for-the-masses phone because they are good quality phones and sorry to break it to you, but this is a forum. In a forum we voice our opinions and tell others what we think. So if you can't deal with the insults get the hell up out the forum and go join a daycare somewhere and have some fun.
"Express Your Self. . . Doomp. . . . Doom nah dah doomp. . . .Express yourself!"
The Lance
03-17-2005, 11:16 PM
well i remember reading somewhere that its most likely to end up with Sprint then verizon because a of few features.. I will look for the link and post it when I find it..
"Given that the RAZR already packs Java technology and has a built-in antenna, both of which are Sprint preferences, it's more likely to come to that network than to Verizon's."
bluecoyote
03-18-2005, 12:00 AM
Plus, Moto better get cozy with Sprint with the merger.
CoreyTheGent
03-18-2005, 09:38 AM
If the same exact Razr V3 that's mentioned here is the one that ends up coming by Q1 2006, I don't think it will have that much of an impact. It will need to be an upgraded design with a better camera and EV-DO capability (at least if Moto wanted me to buy it). Motorola is likely working on the 2nd generation Razr already so maybe that's what's coming to the US CDMA market in 2006.
If the same exact Razr V3 that's mentioned here is the one that ends up coming by Q1 2006, I don't think it will have that much of an impact. It will need to be an upgraded design with a better camera and EV-DO capability (at least if Moto wanted me to buy it). Motorola is likely working on the 2nd generation Razr already so maybe that's what's coming to the US CDMA market in 2006.
In the article, it says that the CDMA RAZR will have a 1.3mp camera.......isn't that better than a VGA? :) Who know what else might be added...or is already in it.
psychojoe3354
03-18-2005, 01:35 PM
I want a RAZR so bad, but it is a bit pricey, and doesn't have THAT great a feature set. But more than likely Sprint WONT be seeing this phone seeing as Sprint doesn't like having MOTO phones. Meh, at least I'll be saving my money for a LG VX8100 which has all the possiblility of coming to Sprint.
and BTW, I don't think Sprint would lock down the BT like VW did. Ask someone who has a Sprint Treo as opposed to a VW one.
FloorMatt
03-18-2005, 01:38 PM
I want a RAZR so bad, but it is a bit pricey, and doesn't have THAT great a feature set. But more than likely Sprint WONT be seeing this phone seeing as Sprint doesn't like having MOTO phones. Meh, at least I'll be saving my money for a LG VX8100 which has all the possiblility of coming to Sprint.
and BTW, I don't think Sprint would lock down the BT like VW did. Ask someone who has a Sprint Treo as opposed to a VW one.
Hmm Verizon has the LG VX8000....and I've played around with it.
I really think that the VX8100 will be going there (look at the model number)......BUT, anything is possible. Might go to both.
The VX8100 looks a heck of lot better than the 8000.......plus, Bluetooth!
bluecoyote
03-18-2005, 01:45 PM
Haha, the VX8100 has NO possibility of coming to Sprint.
Plus, it's got that awful LG interface for Verizon.
FloorMatt
03-18-2005, 01:50 PM
Haha, the VX8100 has NO possibility of coming to Sprint.
Plus, it's got that awful LG interface for Verizon.
LG's interface for Cingular is even worse......I could live with the VX8000's, at least.
I really like the interface on the 325 :)
psychojoe3354
03-18-2005, 02:03 PM
hmm, on second thought, your probably right. I would get the CDMA RAZR if it came to Sprint, but it better have either RL, MP3 playback, or a video recorder. All three would be great but hey, this ain't Asia. They would also have to drop the price lower than it is now seeing as it will be a YEAR old, everyone will be moving on...
P.S. a CDMA V1150 would rock my socks, that's a phone that could get me to switch to T-mo when it comes out. (it has all the features but rl on it)
The Lance
03-18-2005, 10:13 PM
the interface on the 325 is the best and most simple to use.. I never had a phone that had an easier menu navigation the 325..
but back to the topic..
If the RAZR came to sprint i would give this phone to my sister and get the RAZR...
FloorMatt
03-18-2005, 10:15 PM
I just hope it wouldn't be RAZR priced..........but, it probally will be :(
sel1965
03-18-2005, 10:25 PM
If the Ford Model T managed to still out-sell the Honda Accord today, then hell yeah!
I would buy a model T before a Honda everytime again and again!
"Given that the RAZR already packs Java technology and has a built-in antenna, both of which are Sprint preferences, it's more likely to come to that network than to Verizon's."
We really won't know until this phone gets a more defininte release date here in the US. For all we know, the specs may change drastically from the current GSM model we know of. The camera will most likely be improved. VZW or Sprint may want Moto to add EVDO capability to the mix along with other high end features to compliment this beautiful handset. It is a little wide, but I love the feel of it and it is very sleek. The CDMA version most likely will be a little thicker than its GSM cousin. Don't forget that newer GSM versions will also include enhanced technology and Moto is even going to add a candy bar style RAZR phone to its lineup. Stay tuned guys.
For all intensive purposes, the CDMA verision of the RAZR should be nicknamed: "CRAZR." Maybe SK Telecom will grab this phone when it makes its entry in the US this year on VZW's EVDO network and possibly Sprint's once they get their EVDO network up too.
One thing I have read is that the CRAZR will be dual band digital-only and I wonder if Sprint is willing to carry a non-pda phone that is digital only? F&C America's coverage shrinks dramatically if you take away any analog roaming.
Phonescoop is not always the most reliable so take this with a grain of salt if you will, but here's a guy who attended a CTIA press conference.........
One thing I have read is that the CRAZR will be dual band digital-only and I wonder if Sprint is willing to carry a non-pda phone that is digital only? F&C America's coverage shrinks dramatically if you take away any analog roaming.
Actually Sprint started carrying non PDA digital dual band phones with the LG VI5225. Go pick up a digital roaming brochure from your local Sprint Store and see how large the digital roaming area in the US truly is.
Yeah. It's gotten a lot bigger than it used to. But the website's map looks so confusing. You almost can't tell the color difference between digital and analog roaming...
Sorry. . . but I'm going to continue to buy my as-cheap-as-we-can-make-it-for-the-masses phone because they are good quality phones
Good for you. As previously stated, buy them and enjoy.
and sorry to break it to you, but this is a forum. In a forum we voice our opinions and tell others what we think.
Uh, I have been here FAAAAR longer than you, newbie. Don't even try to tell me what purposes the forums serve. Perhaps if you tried thinking, instead of just b*tching about how bad the contract you didn't read and still agreed to is (judging by your sig), your opinion would be more valued.
So if you can't deal with the insults get the hell up out the forum and go join a daycare somewhere and have some fun.
Gee, and I thought that this particular forum was to talk about general Sprint topics, not fling insults at people's tastes in phones. Like I previously stated, you obviously don't like the RAZR. OK, great, we know. Lot's of others have said they wouldn't buy it either. Myself and others have stated we would. Good thing manufacturers make different phones, so we can all get the ones we value the most. Enjoy your green 8200, if the avatar is accurate. I'll get my RAZR if it comes out, and life will be good for all of us.
Or, we can trade volleys until holographic phones come out, pansie.
640k
03-23-2005, 08:10 AM
Why is everyone so bitter about this phone? Who cares what other people spend on what. Its their money not yours.
mcurtiss1970
03-23-2005, 08:11 AM
Why is everyone so bitter about this phone? Who cares what other people spend on what. Its their money not yours.
because it's easy to bash what you can't get or won't get. it's the cellphone forum way!
640k
03-23-2005, 08:34 AM
because it's easy to bash what you can't get or won't get. it's the cellphone forum way!
...suddenly I feel the need to http://forums.clubrsx.com/images/smilies/barf.gif
mcurtiss1970
07-22-2005, 12:52 PM
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000203051514/
mcurtiss1970
07-22-2005, 12:52 PM
http://www.mobileburn.com/gallery.jsp?Id=1527
PSkinny121
07-22-2005, 01:11 PM
http://www.mobileburn.com/gallery.jsp?Id=1527
Yup, there it is, an ugly phone, still ugly, with the ugly hump at the bottom, for $1000 to import, fantastic.
mcurtiss1970
07-22-2005, 01:15 PM
Yup, there it is, an ugly phone, still ugly, with the ugly hump at the bottom, for $1000 to import, fantastic.
when it arrives to a carrier (for way less than $1K, I might add), people will buy it like hotcakes...guaranteed.
PSkinny121
07-22-2005, 01:20 PM
when it arrives to a carrier (for way less than $1K, I might add), people will buy it like hotcakes...guaranteed.
That won't make it any less FUGLY :)
**edit - it is like people spending $90 on jeans at Abercrombie that come with 3000 holes in them, just because they are trendy doesn't make it any less stupid
mcurtiss1970
07-22-2005, 01:22 PM
That won't make it any less FUGLY :)
hehe, to moto, fugly = sales and lotsa $$$$
PSkinny121
07-22-2005, 01:35 PM
hehe, to moto, fugly = sales and lotsa $$$$
Yup, just like J.K. Rowling, George Lucas, Kaballah, the LiveStrong Foundation (good cause though, at least I will credit that), if you manage to create something trendy you do real well. Hell, people used to buy Pet Rock in a box.
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