5600 & #777 trick?

[jh101_7]

for those wanting to do the #777 thing, goto the debug (##33284#) menu and change the usb mode to "modem" and remember to put it back on "composite" so you can access the minisd when you need to later.

i saw this posted on spi

[chuckt101]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (MobilePhone MM-5600/US/1.0) NetFront/3.1 MMP/2.0)

Ive tried that and it still doesnt work. windows recognizes the phone and communicates but wont dial

[jh101_7]

i didn't try it, just saw the question asked here and saw that posted on the other site and figure i'd just post it, to try and help. i personally don't use #777.

[chuckt101]

I don't use #777 on a daily basis but when I do need it, it's usually important that I have it. If someone can't figure this out within the next 10 days, i'm going to have to go back to my 8100 and wait for a new phone that supports it or go to another carrier. I've been thinking about TMobile :(

[enigmatl]

Ouch! Guys, do any of you think this is a new trend and that all future phones will be blocked? This would be earth shaking for me. I'm in the same ballpark as Chuck. It doesn't happen often but when I need it, I NEED it. I just spent around a month or more deciding which carrier to go with, cingular's higher prices but with wireless bluetooth internet connectivity or Sprint's unlimited everything and low price and reasonable quality (and I'd use a data cable for the net). <sigh> I thought that matter was solved and really hope it is. And for anyone who would speculate I want this for abusive purposes (many posts get striken down that way) I can say I probably use 10x as much bandwidth in a day of regular vision (through media player) than I do in a month on data cable connections. But, when I need to get that file too or frim the office that someone just SMSed me about, I really do need it and it is generally needed pronto and I'm generally not at a desk when these celdome but repeated things happen (and no, the file is never 10 gigs. We're talking about word document drafts, SQL queries that someone can't get working, and the likes.)

[vikingjunior]

I just knew this 5600 was to good to be true.

[enigmatl]

I just knew this 5600 was to good to be true.
Well Iguess there's $500 I have to spend on something else. Maybe the stock market. Darn you, Sprint. It's like you're pushing me out the door and shoving me twords Cingular!

[jh101_7]

spi is now reporting this on the front page...

Sprint: Sanyo MM-5600 Blocking #777

When we reported on PictBridge, a new technology in the Sanyo MM-5600, we mentioned that you would need to change a setting to re-enable the ability to use the phone as a modem. However, the released version of the MM-5600 even with the Modem setting enabled cannot be used as a modem.

This appears to be either a hardware or a firmware issue, and not a driver issue. From what we have found, the phone is actively rejecting external #777 calls. It is unknown if this was intentional or not, but Sprint's track record is to not fix these problems when they surface in phones, as seen in the Nokia PM-6225, and Nokia PM-3205.

[chuckt101]

what is spi? Also, it's blocking *all* external modem calls.
ATDT <anything>
automatically hangs up.

And damn, that sucks....

[sanyomcdaniel]

I've done searches for it on this site but i havent found anything...If I remember correctly there were some other data connection #'s besides #777 ppl were using to dial up? Anyone know where this post is?

[jh101_7]

spi is www.sprintpcsinfo.com

[sanyomcdaniel]

its blocking all external modem calls u say? If the phone itself can connect to vision then it has to be possible. Soon enough one of the computer geniuses here will figure it out. maybe if u connect to vision on the phone 1st and find a way to tap into with the laptop and the cable. JUst thinking out loud, im getting the phone today. I'll post back if i find something.

[chuckt101]

at
OK
atz
OK
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OK
atdt #777
NO CARRIER
atdt 1234
NO CARRIER
atdt 1234567
NO CARRIER

etc. etc.

The no carrier pops up immediately.

[vikingjunior]

I knew this 5600 was to good to be true, oops, I already say that. I think we knew it was coming,

[William83]

I knew this 5600 was to good to be true, oops, I already say that. I think we knew it was coming,
Let's keep our eyes on LG 535. I wish it is NOT "too good to be true". :hee:

[DigitalExciting]

or the A800 for that matter :hee:

[ru18b4i4q]

I dont know what to do! I have spent the past to days working on this and it still wont work:( It is starting to get me a little cranked! Whats the diff between my vm-5500 and mm-5600?(I know, Im just making a statement!) Both are 3g phones. When using the PCS Connection Manager software there is a diag util with it. All tests are good so what is the problem? Is the data cable the same as the vm-5500? Theres are break in the comm. some where! :furious:

[William83]

Wirelessly posted (VGA1000: AU-MIC/2.0 MMP/2.0)

Data cable?? Did you try the OLD Sanyo cable on 5600?

[devilsidol]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (MobilePhone MM-5600/US/1.0) NetFront/3.1 MMP/2.0)

Yea And It Works To Charge The Phone And With Bit Pim And Snap Media But Not For Modem Use.

[vikingjunior]

Did I mention this 5600 was to good to be true.

[\\'hoDunIt]

lol.

I'm loving the MM5600. can't agree with you on that one. It's perfect plus some for the purposes I need it for. I toy with it a lot as any phone I get for 2 weeks, then it just becomes a phone anyway. Calling, and talking, nothing more. Although this 1 GB MiniSD card I just ordered should be here soon, and I'm going to be watching full movies on it. :D

[quicknight]

give futuredial time. they'll crack the code!

[dataman]

give futuredial time. they'll crack the code!


I dont think so but I really hope so...

Bitpim might come up with something too they are very good in firmware stuff..

but anyways it is simple...

Sprint included a USB cable for stupid picture bridge and now that the USB cable is available they blocked the outgoing #777 to block the modem usage on the USB cable...

the only way around it is probably a program like what is used for Treo phones or a firmware patch

I hate 5600 now...
my 5500 rocks

[skewba_steve]

so you hate the whole phone cause its blocked against something that's against Sprint's Terms Of Service anyway? :rolleyes:

[monkeyboy]

give futuredial time. they'll crack the code!
Its probably not a "code", but a minor alteration in the firmware that disables the Hayes modem emulation function. As such it would not be fixable without reburning the firmware. For a Treo, a device designed to run 3rd party programs, yes, it would be fairly straightforward to write a program to get around such a block and allow tethered use in some way, but for the 5600, well... just how easy is it to write your own programs for the 5600 (not very, I would imagine...). In any case that is what you would need to do -- write a small program to run in the 5600 that would get around the disabled function.

[dataman]

Its probably not a "code", but a minor alteration in the firmware that disables the Hayes modem emulation function. As such it would not be fixable without reburning the firmware. For a Treo, a device designed to run 3rd party programs, yes, it would be fairly straightforward to write a program to get around such a block and allow tethered use in some way, but for the 5600, well... just how easy is it to write your own programs for the 5600 (not very, I would imagine...). In any case that is what you would need to do -- write a small program to run in the 5600 that would get around the disabled function.


right that is what I think too

but It is doable and Im sure at least people who make money out of this will write the program...

I will never buy the phone if it is not able to be used as a modem, if they disable all there phone that means goodbye sprint very sincerely.

[enigmatl]

right that is what I think too

I will never buy the phone if it is not able to be used as a modem, if they disable all there phone that means goodbye sprint very sincerely.
Amen to that. If this is not an accident then Sprint's playing with fire and they're gonna get burnt by people who say screw it and go to Cingular. My contract isn't up til November so I may buy the phone just to stick around for the adventure of seeing if someone cracks it because I know EV-DO is coming around the time my contract ends and so are new phones. The abscence of bluetooth is a hard pill to swallow for my relationship with sprint and thus it is choking and if while that relationship is choking they try and ram down my throat contrinued bllocking of internet tethering then I'm afraid that relationship will die this November and the $10 vision and the unlimited SMS messageing which is keeping it alive at this point will not be enough to revive it. I hope they don't continue this trend. If not for Cingular's refusal to sell unlimited text messaging I tell ya, I would have already broken my contract with sprint and paid the $150 bucks to switch.

[enigmatl]

Hey guys this could just be stupid but could it work?

I ordered a cable for my 7400 in preparation for getting my phone numbers out of that phone and onto my 5600 whenever Radioshack gets it. He tells me that this charging cable should also work on the MM-5600. Could the cable that comes with the MM-5600 be made just for the intended features? Is there any possibility that a line or 2 is omitted from the 5600's included cable that would be required for modem activity? I remember when I had cable before DSL and my old 3com CMX cable modem came with an eithernet cable that looked like it was missing a line or 2 because the lines were just not needed for connectivity from a network card to the modem. Now, I actually thought the 7400 and 5600 connecters were different but if they are the same, has anyone tried a cable other than the 5600's stock cable to see if they could get tethering to work? I can't try it because Radio Shack in our area doesn't have the phone yet. But, if we're luckey enough that that would work, that would be cool. I'm not counting on it but I'm hoping.

[dataman]

Hey guys this could just be stupid but could it work?

I ordered a cable for my 7400 in preparation for getting my phone numbers out of that phone and onto my 5600 whenever Radioshack gets it. He tells me that this charging cable should also work on the MM-5600. Could the cable that comes with the MM-5600 be made just for the intended features? Is there any possibility that a line or 2 is omitted from the 5600's included cable that would be required for modem activity? I remember when I had cable before DSL and my old 3com CMX cable modem came with an eithernet cable that looked like it was missing a line or 2 because the lines were just not needed for connectivity from a network card to the modem. Now, I actually thought the 7400 and 5600 connecters were different but if they are the same, has anyone tried a cable other than the 5600's stock cable to see if they could get tethering to work? I can't try it because Radio Shack in our area doesn't have the phone yet. But, if we're luckey enough that that would work, that would be cool. I'm not counting on it but I'm hoping.


I highly doubted....

there is no hardware changes made to the phone
it is just firmware blocking of outgoing #777 dialing

and Im soooo pissed at sprint b/c of this

[joesacco1584]

maybe the USB cable that comes with it dosen't support that kind of data transmission.... unless you're using the futuredial cables... then I'll shut up.

[c_gutta]

maybe the USB cable that comes with it dosen't support that kind of data transmission.... unless you're using the futuredial cables... then I'll shut up.
I tried it with my Future Dial cable with the same result.

It has just been disabled.

[enigmatl]

Well, the phone comes with J2ME so there's something that can be done. Someone will just need to code it. Maybe FutureDial Maybe someone else.

[Boss_429]

Anyone know if the USB cable for a sanyo 5300 will work for the 5600?

I'm afraid to just connect it and find out....

I would like to have one cable at work and one at home.....

[dataman]

Anyone know if the USB cable for a sanyo 5300 will work for the 5600?

I'm afraid to just connect it and find out....

I would like to have one cable at work and one at home.....


they are the same cables if you need extra cables send me an email

[fl00d_pr0z]

Like someone else said: Why is everyone getting mad that a phone won't do something that is against Sprint's TOS anyway ? Lmao

[monkeyboy]

Like someone else said: Why is everyone getting mad that a phone won't do something that is against Sprint's TOS anyway ? LmaoWould you buy a car whose max speed was artificially capped at 70mph ?

[fl00d_pr0z]

That makes no sense. You can't compare Sprint blocking out something they are against to a car topping out at 70MPH. This phone does everything it says it does, Sprint never claimed to be able to use it as a modem.

[monkeyboy]

That makes no sense. You can't compare Sprint blocking out something they are against to a car topping out at 70MPH. This phone does everything it says it does, Sprint never claimed to be able to use it as a modem.I think you're missing the point... Ok, so now Ford will state that the newest Taurus is not intended to go above 70mph and therefore will be artificially capped (electronically) at 70mph, "in cooperation with state and federal highway authorities". Does that make it any better ?

You KNOW the car is perfectly capable of going faster than 70mph. Its just a tiny little circuit or firmware that stops it. The manufacturer will now not claim it can go faster than 70mph. Is that a better analogy ?

It is clear to everyone that the ONLY reason that the car is disabled from going faster is to conform to *current* highway speed limits. In fact, officiers on the side will tell you that they allow you a 5mph window before speed limit enforcement kicks in, so you can go 75mph all the time and not receive a citation, even though TECHNICALLY it is an infraction. However this Taurus PREVENTS you from going anything above 70mph, because of a firmware patch.

So... Sprint has unofficially stated that modest, non-abusive use of Vision tethered (modem) is okay, although it is TECHNICALLY a violation of the TOS. Sprint does NOT make phones. Sprint owns "the highways" (the network) and makes the laws of the highway, and does the enforcement. The phone specs are freely available and all manufacturers DO claim that modem/tethered use is possible (because it is part of the chipsets and the specs of the chipsets are totally available). However a tiny firmware patch put in the phone by request from Sprint has disabled it in some phones.

Is the analogy perfect ? no, no analogy is, but I think it is pretty close, at least in the ways that matter in response to the posts above that question why we would be mad at a phone that didn't provide a feature that Sprint never claimed. You still don't think the analogy isn't at least *a little* apt ?

[enigmatl]

It can be analigized, discussed, and toyed with all day but it boils down to one thing. I bought into the 5600 cuz it's a darn nice phone. But when my contract is up, if Sprint, a company that has been holding me basically by a thread for the past 5-6 years is going to lose me come contract time if this crap keeps up. I've dealt with the fact that Sprint doesn't even run the towes in our area (they use affiliates which to me is inferior) I've reluctantely swallowed the annoyance that when I use vision, I can't receive a phone call <gag me>, I've choked on Sprint's refusal to embrace bluetooth and their inability/refusal to deal with Motorola for whatever stupid reason it may be but I will not deal with no internet teathering. So, for me, it goes like this. If Sprint doesn't shape up by my contract expire date, wanabe/"me too" merger or not, here is one regular $450 phone buyer/early bill payer/customer of 5 years that is going the way of Cingular - a company who offers ALL the things I said above. Sure, by myself, I don't mean jack in their eyes but I know pleanty of others who have been loyal to Sprint despite the fact that they are freakin' fed up with them.

i love my Sanyo MM-5600 so I will use it for at least 9 months. By then, my contract will be up and I'll gladly give up unlimited text messaging and $10 vision if Sprint continues to let Cingular be #1 and Verizon #2. I seriously hope they don't actually think that because they bought some small company that has superior push-to-talk & not a lot else that they think this is gonna hold those of us who are dissatisfied. They can't seriously think even one of their users would equate this to Cingular&AT&T Wireless, can they? No - they need to start addressing the issues those of us who have them express and not ADD MORE of them (refering to the 5600's tethering restriction) lol at this pioint, I don't think a retention plan exists that could hold me if this stuff keeps up. Not even 5,000 minutes for $40 bucks. But, for the next 7-8 months or so, I suppose I'll just have to deal with them. And there's no better way to do it than with the 5600.

[ocelectroboi]

It can be analigized, discussed, and toyed with all day but it boils down to one thing. I bought into the 5600 cuz it's a darn nice phone. But when my contract is up, if Sprint, a company that has been holding me basically by a thread for the past 5-6 years is going to lose me come contract time if this crap keeps up. I've dealt with the fact that Sprint doesn't even run the towes in our area (they use affiliates which to me is inferior) I've reluctantely swallowed the annoyance that when I use vision, I can't receive a phone call <gag me>, I've choked on Sprint's refusal to embrace bluetooth and their inability/refusal to deal with Motorola for whatever stupid reason it may be but I will not deal with no internet teathering. So, for me, it goes like this. If Sprint doesn't shape up by my contract expire date, wanabe/"me too" merger or not, here is one regular $450 phone buyer/early bill payer/customer of 5 years that is going the way of Cingular - a company who offers ALL the things I said above. Sure, by myself, I don't mean jack in their eyes but I know pleanty of others who have been loyal to Sprint despite the fact that they are freakin' fed up with them.

i love my Sanyo MM-5600 so I will use it for at least 9 months. By then, my contract will be up and I'll gladly give up unlimited text messaging and $10 vision if Sprint continues to let Cingular be #1 and Verizon #2. I seriously hope they don't actually think that because they bought some small company that has superior push-to-talk & not a lot else that they think this is gonna hold those of us who are dissatisfied. They can't seriously think even one of their users would equate this to Cingular&AT&T Wireless, can they? No - they need to start addressing the issues those of us who have them express and not ADD MORE of them (refering to the 5600's tethering restriction) lol at this pioint, I don't think a retention plan exists that could hold me if this stuff keeps up. Not even 5,000 minutes for $40 bucks. But, for the next 7-8 months or so, I suppose I'll just have to deal with them. And there's no better way to do it than with the 5600.

could not say it better myself!

[bigcletus94]

maybe the USB cable that comes with it dosen't support that kind of data transmission.... unless you're using the futuredial cables... then I'll shut up.

This is what i am thinking as well. My good old a500 data cable was a Y-cable: it had one end that plugged into the phone, and then it had a double ended USB on the other end. One was labeled "sync" and the other was "dialer". It would only dial with the correct end.

I really hope a work-around is found or I might return my phone as well. I go on a lot of road trips, and having the ability to access the web on my laptop has been very helpfull.

[monkeyboy]

This is what i am thinking as well. My good old a500 data cable was a Y-cable: it had one end that plugged into the phone, and then it had a double ended USB on the other end. One was labeled "sync" and the other was "dialer". It would only dial with the correct end.

I really hope a work-around is found or I might return my phone as well. I go on a lot of road trips, and having the ability to access the web on my laptop has been very helpfull.Very unlikely that it is a cable issue since, as someone above demonstrated, you can successfully talk to the Hayes modem emulation part of the phone (ATDT), which then prompted throws up with "NO CARRIER". There is no additional magic here. That USB/serial connection that you use to talk to the Hayes modem logic is the same that carries the data connection, just like in a regular analog modem. So the fact that you CAN talk to it and get AT commands recognized and responded to (try an AT&V to dump the status of the registers), means that it is not a cable issue. It is almostly certainly a firmware disabling of the modem emulation.

[ScrapMaker]

all our base are belong to sprint

[rdj]

FWIW, I submitted a formal question using Sanyo's service and support site (sanyoservice.custhelp.com (http://sanyoservice.custhelp.com/)) on this issue. The question reference number is 050407-000021, subject "Can the MM-5600 be used as a Vision data modem with the USB cable like other Sprint PCS phones?"

Although the primary function of the USB cable and connection on the MM-5600 seems to be for PictBridge and external access to the installed Mini-SD memory card, it appears to be possible to connect the USB cable in "standby" mode such that a laptop computer recognizes the USB device as a Sanyo modem. This would be consistent with almost all other Sprint PCS Vision phones that can be used as a modem pursuant to Terms of Service that allow this (e.g. add-on data packs for Vision phone plans.)

Unfortunately, the MM-5600 seems not to respond to conventional attempts to connect to the Sprint data service using pseudo-phone number #777 as other phones do. Is this an oversight, a bug, or was this capability intentionally disabled on the MM-5600?

There seem to be many people who would otherwise purchase this phone but have based their decision not to do so on the inability to use the phone in this manner. Is Sanyo aware of that? Is it possible that a future firmware update might make this modem capability possible on existing MM-5600s such as the one that I have purchased? (My phone has Software version 1.010SP and Hardware 0101, according to Settings / Information / Version.)

Thank you for any response that would enlighten me on the plans for this feature on the MM-5600.

I intend to post here again if I hear anything by way of follow-up from Sanyo.

[ScrapMaker]

good work...

I doubt they will give you a 'real' response...

[bigcletus94]

Maybe there is hope, check out this link (http://www.boxwave.com/products/minisync/minisync-retractable-cable-sanyo-mm-5600_589.htm).

They claim these drivers and cable will work with internet on the 5600. I just recieved this cable in the mail and the package says it is for a sanyo 4900. They told me it is the same cable. I haven't tried it yet because my battery keeps dying on me. Anyone else with the 5600 have their battery die often?

What I don't understand, is how can the #777 feature be blocked in the phone if the modem/composite is an option still??

[ScrapMaker]

the designers of the phone can do ANYTHING... that's how.

[enigmatl]

Though the driver works for PC Sync, it doesn't work for #777. I don't have the cable they are selling though but dono if it would make a difference. I have a Futuredial cable.

[vikingjunior]

After finally getting my 7400 cable and connecting it to the internet there is no way I buy this phone unless the get the #777 thing working,
They are going to lose a lot of sales on the 5600 if someone doesn't get this thing working.

[ScrapMaker]

true dat, even though people aren't SUPPOSED to do this... it's exactly like speeding with a car... you're not supposed to, but the vechicle is capable, and you should be able to if you want.

maybe someone will come out with a JAVA applet that works as a bridge from USB to VISION?

people could actually sell that applet, if there is not another work-around for the 5600.

[kirk1233]

I'd pay $50 for it if someone developed such a program...

true dat, even though people aren't SUPPOSED to do this... it's exactly like speeding with a car... you're not supposed to, but the vechicle is capable, and you should be able to if you want.

maybe someone will come out with a JAVA applet that works as a bridge from USB to VISION?

people could actually sell that applet, if there is not another work-around for the 5600.

[bigcletus94]

I'd pay $50 for it if someone developed such a program...


ME TOO. Futuredial?

[ScrapMaker]

I bet I know some people that could do it...

but I seem to get reprimanded every time I mention their name...

[reemusk]

for those wanting to do the #777 thing, goto the debug (##33284#) menu and change the usb mode to "modem" and remember to put it back on "composite" so you can access the minisd when you need to later.

i saw this posted on spi

may i ask what the "#777 thing" is? and it's equal on the scp-5500/vm4500?

[reemusk]

Would you buy a car whose max speed was artificially capped at 70mph ?


if you own a chevrolet, most of them are limited to 103, 101, or 98 mph.


though the car/truck can (sometimes) far exceed that...

[ScrapMaker]

you can EASILY get rid of that computer-limited speed regulation... if you know someone with a prom writer... or you can just get one of those rip-off speedchip things.

[reemusk]

you can EASILY get rid of that computer-limited speed regulation... if you know someone with a prom writer... or you can just get one of those rip-off speedchip things.


or spend $300 bucks and change all other kinds of cool stuff.

[Noodle]

I know this is a thread about the 5600 and #777 but is the Nokia blocked from using #777 with a data cable. I know it was never figured out using IR but ehat about with a data cable.

[enigmatl]

Any java applet written would probably make the phone slower than other phones on #777 and that would just not be cool. So I wouldn't pay what others are saying they'd pay. I'd just switch providers in November when my contract expires if this issue pops up on their next batch of phones and I'd do it without any remourse seeing as how even if #777 did start to work, the line would be busy anyway whereas it wouldn't be busy on other carriers and I'l be doing it wirelessly through bluetooth. However, the MM-5600's speakerphone because of it's really good sound quality would save that from happening for a lot of us and I'm still hoping for Futuredial to do something if they can.

[ScrapMaker]

yeah right... once you go Sprint, you don't go back.

I keep thinking of switching, but then I find out EVERY other carrier is more expensive when you get down to SMS/VISION/PICTUREMAIL

[Nikitis]

Works fine for me on the A680. I wouldn't use any sprint software though in trying to do it. I just went into Network Connections on my PC and set it up. You have to make sure that when you set up a Dial-up Connection there is no username or password. (Even though it will prompt you for one) Before you do all that though, make sure you have the USB Drivers properly installed. When installing drivers, make sure the usb data cable is NOT plugged in. Only plug it in after install them. The phone has to say USB Connected, then hit dial on the connection on the computer and it should work.

[LordAthens]

Yeah, it works fine on the 680 and just about every other Sprint 3G handset. The point of this thread is the fact that it's firmware limited in the handset.

It has nothing to do with software, nor with how the dialer is setup with the 5600.

[Madisn]

Although #777 is definately not working, I'm not convinced that it is a firmware limitation blocking the ability to use the modem . There is obviously a way to get this to work without a firmware update. The way to access this feature may have changed (perhaps instead of #777 - it is now Up, down, left, left, circle, right, L2, square, square, start)... sorry I digress...

I am "assuming" that firmware is not blocking the modem because Datapilot is about to release their new version of software that supports the 5600 - dial up internet connectivity with the 5600 is supported in this version. It appears they have found a way to get the phone to dial and open a data connection without a firmware update.

I think it may be more of a change in the way the phone is desigined and the features are accessed on this model, rather than an intentional blocking of a feature.

So in a week or so, we should be able to know if this works out or not. After that it shouldn't be too long for someone to learn what the datapilot software does - then it can be done with direct access.

http://www.datapilot.com/phones_sanyo.htm

[bigcletus94]

Although #777 is definately not working, I'm not convinced that it is a firmware limitation blocking the ability to use the modem . There is obviously a way to get this to work without a firmware update. The way to access this feature may have changed (perhaps instead of #777 - it is now Up, down, left, left, circle, right, L2, square, square, start)... sorry I digress...

I am "assuming" that firmware is not blocking the modem because Datapilot is about to release their new version of software that supports the 5600 - dial up internet connectivity with the 5600 is supported in this version. It appears they have found a way to get the phone to dial and open a data connection without a firmware update.

I think it may be more of a change in the way the phone is desigined and the features are accessed on this model, rather than an intentional blocking of a feature.

So in a week or so, we should be able to know if this works out or not. After that it shouldn't be too long for someone to learn what the datapilot software does - then it can be done with direct access.

http://www.datapilot.com/phones_sanyo.htm

This "dial-up" software, does it actually dial an ISP's number, or does it go through Sprint's web Vision? I didn't see much info on their site about the 5600. Did you speak with them about the 5600? If the software actually works, I bet they sell a ton of these packages.

[ScrapMaker]

you can still hook up the USB cable to the 5600 and use it as a regular modem, right? to dial up a 56k ISP?

I can do that with my 5500... but why bother when I can dial #777 and go 10x faster.

[granz]

you can still hook up the USB cable to the 5600 and use it as a regular modem, right? to dial up a 56k ISP?


Nope, any attempt to dial (ATD) produces an immediate 'no carrier' error. :(

[Madisn]

This "dial-up" software, does it actually dial an ISP's number, or does it go through Sprint's web Vision? I didn't see much info on their site about the 5600. Did you speak with them about the 5600? If the software actually works, I bet they sell a ton of these packages.

I did speak with them, more about when it will come out (available on 4-21) and if you need thier cable or can use the one provided (they say it will work with the one provided).

According to their website:
"Dial up to the Internet on your PC or laptop with your mobile phone. The Internet Data Connectivity feature allows you to simply connect your mobile phone to your laptop and surf the Web using your mobile phone as a wireless modem. With Dialup, you can easily check your e-mail anytime and anywhere, while on the road. Dial up Internet access is based on cell phone model and provider."

This is supported on the 5600.

The Tutorial gives the example of connecting to sprint vision with #777... probably an older demo and won't apply to the 5600... it will be interesting to see how the software actually works.

DEMO LINK: http://www.susteen.com/Demo3/dc_index.htm

[ScrapMaker]

Nope, any attempt to dial (ATD) produces an immediate 'no carrier' error. :(

well at least that sucks...

[Madisn]

UPDATE: Datapilot has released their software - compatible with the 5600.

[kirk1233]

Well... Does it make #777 work? If it does I plan to purchase, but I don't want to buy something for no reason...

UPDATE: Datapilot has released their software - compatible with the 5600.

[kirk1233]

Just downloaded it, does not work for me :( Tried #777 and my isp...

[ScrapMaker]

hrm, maybe you guys should just return your phones and wait for the a800?

[kirk1233]

I'd never use a samsung. There is no better rf performance than sanyo, no matter how much it sucks I can't use as a modem...

hrm, maybe you guys should just return your phones and wait for the a800?

[bigcletus94]

hrm, maybe you guys should just return your phones and wait for the a800?

what makes you think that the a800 will work? with the way things are going, probably all phones coming out will nolonger work as a modem...out of the box at least.

[Wuss912]

just a suggestion but make sure readylink or anything else on the phone is connected to data when you attempt to dial out this is the same error i get on my 8200 when the dataservice is in use by the phone.

[kirk1233]

I called and was able to get my refund after an half hour of convinving them it does not work. Get this... they have a 5600 but it is not live! Their testing consists of making sure their software DETECTS the phone but they never dial!

They are too cheap to have a sprint service plan with vision to test this stuff!

[enigmatl]

Check this link out. http://www.futuredial.com/matrix/M_Sanyo_Suite.htm
According to this, Futuredial now officially supports the MM-5600. However, they do not have the internet box checked for it. So, if Futuredial can't do it, I doubt anyone can and that all but seals the deal for me. I'll get a few more months out of the 5600 since I DID pay $450 for it but since this "problem" occurred in the Treo also, it's all but official. It's bye-bye Sprint, Hello Cingular the day my contract expires. Guess there goes my 1 gig datacard buying plan. This sucks.

[dknight247]

Check this link out. http://www.futuredial.com/matrix/M_Sanyo_Suite.htm
According to this, Futuredial now officially supports the MM-5600. However, they do not have the internet box checked for it. So, if Futuredial can't do it, I doubt anyone can and that all but seals the deal for me. I'll get a few more months out of the 5600 since I DID pay $450 for it but since this "problem" occurred in the Treo also, it's all but official. It's bye-bye Sprint, Hello Cingular the day my contract expires. Guess there goes my 1 gig datacard buying plan. This sucks.


has anyone TRIED the internet thingy?

[enigmatl]

Um,,,, Yeah??? Pretty much EVERYONE? It doesn't work. People have tried 9 ways to Sonday to get it to work. I already know about 4 people who terminated their contracts and paid ETFs over it. It doesn't work and it doesn't look like it's going to work any time soon and it looks like there's not a lot we can do about it short of someone out there creating the first ever cell phone mod chip. I do not see that happening. Sprint phones have been out for years now and nobody even knows how to flash the firmware thanks probably to encryption of some sort so, no modem use out of the 5600 most likely, ever.

[ScrapMaker]

terminated contract? paid the $150 fee?? ***... doesn't everyone know that you can trade your phone or get your money back for 15 days?

do some research before you buy a phone.

[xman910]

for those wanting to do the #777 thing, goto the debug (##33284#) menu and change the usb mode to "modem" and remember to put it back on "composite" so you can access the minisd when you need to later.

i saw this posted on spi

sweet dude good inspection

[enigmatl]

terminated contract? paid the $150 fee?? ***... doesn't everyone know that you can trade your phone or get your money back for 15 days?

do some research before you buy a phone.Yes people know they can trade their phones in. But think about the people who terminated their contracts for a sec (at least the ones I know of) They don't care much about the $500 bucks. Easy come easy go, half decent job. They'll buy a new phone on hype from a company who has delivered in the past kinda like how xbox Halo fans bought Halo 2. Everybody knew there was no modem use thanks mostly to these forums. The notion was then to just sit and wait it out and see if something would change this. The people I know who canceled service know they can change phones. But what are you gonna change to? Your old phone? The best thing of the last generation? An MM-7400? It's a step back so that's out. Do we wait on the a800 then? It's a great looking upcming phone but it has no speakerphone. But even if it did have a speakerphone, should people who want modem use wait? Nah. We already saw Sprint block alledgedly block modem access from the Treo 650. That shows a trend. Shows me Sprint is trying to block modems from all future phones til they prove otherwise. The onlly solution then is to switch to a company like Cingular at least until such time that Sprint gets this stupid idea out of their system. Me though, I'm willing to ride out the 5600 for a few months til my contract ends because it is a good phone. My hopes are that if I know 4 ppl who terminated contracts over this annoying path Sprint is taking, there's hopefully just enough people to make Sprint change their minds about it by the time the next batch of Sanyo phones comes out.

[michelle]

Originally Posted by jh101_7
for those wanting to do the #777 thing, goto the debug (##33284#) menu and change the usb mode to "modem" and remember to put it back on "composite" so you can access the minisd when you need to later.

i saw this posted on spi

agh, i tried it. not even my trusty mac can break through this one :mad: i want my #777! i was so close!

[ScrapMaker]

I wonder if the a800 will have this 'problem'... ?

[phyllipb5]

lol.

I'm loving the MM5600. can't agree with you on that one. It's perfect plus some for the purposes I need it for. I toy with it a lot as any phone I get for 2 weeks, then it just becomes a phone anyway. Calling, and talking, nothing more. Although this 1 GB MiniSD card I just ordered should be here soon, and I'm going to be watching full movies on it. :D

How do you get the movies to show...? I have not been able to get it done yet. Can you tell me what I need? Thanks
Phyllip

[William83]

I just add a phone for my Mom. It is a Sanyo VI-2300. I pulled out my "Genuine Sprint PCS Connection Kit", pluged it in. #777 is a "NO Respond". PC Sync should not be a problem, but NO dial-up networking.

R.I.P. #777. Don't bet on LG 535 and Samsung A800 to do miracles. No more #777 for New Vision phones. :frustrate :weeping:

[falconey]

Didn't read the whole thread, but dang the fact that sprint would disable a feature on a $500 phone, when said feature prolly costs them next to nothing, to me is pretty assinine. I mean HELLO someone just gave you $500 for a nonessential item. In comparsion you can get a dell pc with a flat panel monitor for $500. This company is azz backwards.

[dknight247]

Didn't read the whole thread, but dang the fact that sprint would disable a feature on a $500 phone, when said feature prolly costs them next to nothing, to me is pretty assinine. I mean HELLO someone just gave you $500 for a nonessential item. In comparsion you can get a dell pc with a flat panel monitor for $500. This company is azz backwards.

Werd!

[ready4URlink]

Yep. it sounds to me that the #777 Modem use for the new phones are dead. So, I'll stick with my 5500....if I upgrade...I'll go as high as the 7400. :-( It still has RL, MM, VM features. :-/ ...barely

[ScrapMaker]

just so you know, the #777 works just fine on the a800....

[lgmayka]

just so you know, the #777 works just fine on the a800....
Does the A800 have MIDP2.0 (e.g., MobiTV at least as fast as on the Sanyo 7400)?

[ScrapMaker]

yup, any new $300+ phone will have midp 2.0

makes mobitv and m2audio and all sorts of stuff MUCH MUCH better...

too bad the sprint network is still too slow to properly stream even a stereo audio feed... I've been trying to think of ways to do it... the network just isn't good enough...

[Poitier]

No #777 access! Sprint is playing dirty. Thats one of two reasons I won't even look at a 5600. The second it's too BIG. The 7400 is the lick.

[lgmayka]

yup, any new $300+ phone will have midp 2.0
With a 240x320 screen, #777, and MIDP2.0, the A800 is finally the first phone that is a clear improvement over my Toshiba VM4050. :)

[ScrapMaker]

that camera is nice... but I think that samsung artificially inflated the 2.0mp rating... I think its significantly lower than that...
check out a fullsize shot and then a downsized version

[devilsidol]

just so you know, the #777 works just fine on the a800....
Can anyone please confirm this before i buy this phone? Please?!

[devilsidol]

Sorry. Just got confirmation from a800 part 2 thread. Awesome!

[DJ Frustration]

Has anyone found a resolution to the #777 limitation on the MM-5600?

Also, has anyone tried using the PCS Connection Manager v2.0 with any success on the MM-5600?

[ScrapMaker]

it's a shame that this had to be the case

at least you can use the USB cable to copy files to the phone....

[dknight247]

it's a shame that this had to be the case

at least you can use the USB cable to copy files to the phone....


any updates?

[dknight247]

can some one give me a detailed, somewhat technical, explanation of why #777 doesn't and NEVER WILL work on 5600?

[plurseed]

Well the sierra wireless 3300 network card installation cd gives support to the 7300 and 4900. Maybe in time it’ll give support to 5600. or a update will do so.

[Earltheman]

Has anyone ever tried this one?
http://store.ositechdirect.com/cemoforsaph1.html
It's a cellular modem for laptops that they claim will work with the 5600. Not sure how that could be true if Sanyo/Sprint have intentionally disabled the interface in the 5600. I have been almost tempted to spend the $119 just out of curiousity.

[dataman]

even if that is the solution .. I already said to my self screw Sanyo 5600... It is too big by itself and I wouldnt add anything else to it!

[ScrapMaker]

$119 isn't worth it at all... because you can get a modem card that DOESN'T even require a cellphone... oh yeah, they've all been like that for years... they have their own antennas. $50 max, and you can dial out vision the same way usually.

[bitey]

$119 isn't worth it at all... because you can get a modem card that DOESN'T even require a cellphone... oh yeah, they've all been like that for years... they have their own antennas. $50 max, and you can dial out vision the same way usually.

I think I am not understanding something that you are saying. It sounds to me like you are saying that a person can get a Sprint data card and use it whenever one wants to do so. Doesn't that require activation of the card and signing up for a data plan? If you are talking about something else, please tell me what it is. I want to get the 8300 when it is out, and I suspect that it will also have #777 disabled. I only need to use my phone as a modem a couple of times a year at conferences to check email, but that is an important feature for me. Please tell me that you are talking about something other that a Sprint data card (or else tell me how to use it only occasionally without incuring a significantly charge). Thanks.

bitey

[ScrapMaker]

You would have to get a shared plan and add that card to your account, and it would need vision on that line, but it sounds like you would probably just get rid of vision on your other line.

also, as far as I know, sprint phones don't use external modems, nor have they ever. When you connect the serial/usb cable to your laptop, your phone IS the modem. It will respond to all AT commands. Whatever sanyo has disabled in this phone will most likely STAY disabled. I just don't see what a separate modem card would do in this case. The last time I've seen an external cellular modem card, (that wasn't an actual cell modem with an antenna,) was about 5 years ago, when my father had to buy a special modem and cable to dial out with his nokia cell phone. Sprint has always been a proxy-modem setup, even as far back as the sanyo 4700... and I bet much further than that.

I am slightly curious as to what card you are referring to and how exactly it interfaces with the phone.

[jh101_7]

Has anyone ever tried this one?
http://store.ositechdirect.com/cemoforsaph1.html
It's a cellular modem for laptops that they claim will work with the 5600. Not sure how that could be true if Sanyo/Sprint have intentionally disabled the interface in the 5600. I have been almost tempted to spend the $119 just out of curiousity.

i've emailed the company you provided the link for and i got this...

Hello,

Thank-you for your interest in Ositech's cellular data modem. At this time this particular product is under investigation by our Engineering team (we are at a Stop Ship).

Can you answer a couple questions for me:
1) Are you able to tell me which particular products you have tried?
2) Do you have digital data services enabled on your account with Sprint?

Any other questions, feel free to contact us again.

Kindest Regards,
Ositech Online Sales

[Earltheman]

i've emailed the company you provided the link for and i got this...

Interesting... I'm even more skeptical of their product now. Sounds like they maybe didn't test it with the 5600, even though they claim it supports it.

[bigdubya]

I called futuredial yesterday and they said that Sprint has requested that Sanyo disable the #777 feature on all future Sanyo phones, as well as others in the future. It will be a slow migration away from this feature. I called Sprint and spoke with them too and asked them if the 5600 could be used as a modem on my laptop? She told me no, that it was illegal (lol) and a violation of my TOS. I asked how it was illegal and she responded, "you are not supposed to do it". Sounds like Sprint is tightening the noose. I have read this entire post looking for a fix, and I agree with 99.9% of you that this is the end of Sprint for me. I HATE all wireless providers, as they sell "airtime" to me. Sprint, like the others, is a nickel and dimer now, but the lesser of all evils and cheaper. I will say before you buy a data card and a plan (RIPOFFJ $179 for the card and $40.00 for 20MB a month) that you should keep your old data enabled phone as an additional line of service on your plan ($10) and add vision ($10). The only thing is carrying around the old phone. I REALLY want a 5600 as it has all of the features I could want except this one. I will stick with Sanyo vs Samsung because I have all of the cables. As soon as my contract is up though, unless this changes, I am leaving them.

[SteelersFan]

bigdubya, when I got the Sanyo 5600, I was not aware of the #777 feature being disabled and was ready to take it back and get a 7400 instead. But, at least for me, I figure for as often as I ever used my 8200 as a modem (maybe 3 times a year), it wasn't just that important to me, as I love all the other features of the 5600. My wife still has an 8100, so until she upgrades her phone I can still use hers as a fallback if needed. I guess my point is, unless you were using your phone as a modem on a regular basis (which you shouldn't be according to Sprint), just accept the fact that this will soon be a thing of the past.

[bigdubya]

I agree that it will be a thing of the past soon. Tragic, that a company takes a step backwards in technology and access. They should come up with another plan, even charge for the use of it if they wanted. I would pay if it was reasonable, more so than their data plan is. I use the modem feature extensively since I travel so much. Not heavy throughput, but very convenient. I would love to upgrade to the 5600, but I may go to the audiovox 6600 ppc format to overcome this issue for now.

bigdubya, when I got the Sanyo 5600, I was not aware of the #777 feature being disabled and was ready to take it back and get a 7400 instead. But, at least for me, I figure for as often as I ever used my 8200 as a modem (maybe 3 times a year), it wasn't just that important to me, as I love all the other features of the 5600. My wife still has an 8100, so until she upgrades her phone I can still use hers as a fallback if needed. I guess my point is, unless you were using your phone as a modem on a regular basis (which you shouldn't be according to Sprint), just accept the fact that this will soon be a thing of the past.

[etiger13]

maybe they just changed the number its dialing? anyway to figure this out? if vision connects then there should be a way to do it through the laptop.

[ScrapMaker]

It really depends if the phone will allow it... it's not going to just be a simple 'number' change. If the phone won't act as a proxy modem anymore, then that's that.

Using my 5500 as a modem was painfully slow anyways... well compared to a real internet connection. it had more throughput, and higher ping than a 56k though.

[Sandiegodude]

Wirelessly posted (Vm 4050: Mozilla/4.0 (MobilePhone MM-5600/US/1.0) NetFront/3.1 MMP/2.0)

Has ANYONE gotten this thing to work?

[ScrapMaker]

#777 is dead.

[sprint03]

At least you can use the MM-7500 as a modem.

[ScrapMaker]

you can use all of the ev-do phones as modems... but you have to pay $$$ extra

[SlimPaco]

Even with the "PHONE AS MODEM" option the 5600 is still a kick-@ss phone, I didn't know it was like that when I bought it, and still don't regret it, that's perhaps the only real upgrade on the 9000.

[Sandiegodude]

I agree, but if you were used to using your cell as a modem under emergency situations and coming from the 4050 and 7400 (both of which were tetherable) to the 5600, it was an option that I really missed. I just broke down and got a 6700 so I don't even need a laptop anymore to check, edit, send and receive attachments like word docs and excel spreadsheets.

[mellowmarshall]

Nobody has mentioned Sprint's side of the argument here. Using your phone as a modem is against the TOS because it uses HUGE bandwidth, much higher than regular calls. Obviously it is not in their best interest to continue to allow people to use their phone as a modem, and after all Sprint is not here because they love cell phones - they are here to make money.

Now, with EV-DO, you can pay to use your phone as a modem. $$$, anyone? It makes the world go 'round.

[lgmayka]

Using your phone as a modem is against the TOS because it uses HUGE bandwidth, much higher than regular calls.
On a 1xRTT (regular Vision) phone, as-modem usage does not use any more bandwidth than Sprint TV Live or MobiTV. On an EVDO phone, as-modem usage can indeed use much more bandwidth than those two programs.

[izzzy12k]

Anyone know what phone they will give you if you use your warranty due to loss or whatever?

[pardesi_bhai]

dumb noob q
what does #777 do?

[shermysherm0314]

what is the ##33284# i typed it in my phane then it has a password and the lock saysfield serv what do i do next