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detroitkruk
01-09-2005, 08:15 PM
It's important to understand that both the act of Sprint limping onto the Blackberry field and their roll-out of Direct Connect have NOTHING to do with feature enrichment or service expansion.

These were both pre-requisites put forth in the terms of their Nextel aquisition. They had to roll-out and demsonstrate their ability to offer both of these services on their network before instigating the "merger of equals". Direct Connect is obvious, Nextel wouldn't even open a proposal from a company that couldn't accomodate the cornerstone function of their brand. The Blackberry facet, is a bit less obvious but no less important considering the impressive move Nextel made towards the PDA/Smartphone market share beginning in Q1 of 2004. And you'll notice they REALLY slipped that in close to the deadline. Sprint Blackberry's were a phantom up to just a week or two before the merger announcement.

Sprint could care less if any of us want, need or would "just like to have" a Blackberry. The use of Blackberry's on the Sprint network will remain a "super premium" service, the unapproachable cost of which will keep the prospect of ownership way off the radar of pro-sumers and most certainly the casual users. Only those with bags of money or corporate subsidies will be able to get in line for a Sprint Blackberry.

And what is it that we want? What is this elegant, sweet function that we are all so enthralled by... PUSH. There it is. Perfect. Sweet. Your email comes to your phone as it is sent. Beautiful.

Sprint knows what they did. They missed the boat. While they were rolling out their picture phones and WAP enslaved "Vision" services, the rest of the wireless brands were working on offering their customers the one and only thing that really works on the Internet, the thing that above all else has truly become a "utility" on par with the telephone and running water: EMAIL.

My motivation for writing this is simple frustration. I feel that Sprint is as close to a perfect wireless provider as the world has seen; dollar for dollar the lowest cost of ownership, lowest usage cost and the most reasonable data offering anywhere. But they're just off. Just a little bit.

Sprint: Bring us phones with more robust software, even at the most entry level price points. Forget your fumbling of the SMS and PUSH technologies. We'll forgive you. Before the SEC gives you the thumbs up on the Nextel merger and all your attention is thus directed, close a deal with RIM for a Blackberry software client. And, do us a favor, off it to us at a reasonable price.

If not, we have Marc Blank, the Patron Saint of Treo PUSH... Bless you.

detroitkruk

defiant
01-10-2005, 01:38 PM
brilliantly stated. second that

detroitkruk
01-14-2005, 06:48 PM
brilliantly stated. second that

cool...thanks...

detroitkruk

Calvin&Hobbes
01-14-2005, 07:48 PM
RIM support....I needed it for the last 18 months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Halo1982
01-14-2005, 10:26 PM
How much does Blackberry data cost, anyway?

Calvin&Hobbes
01-16-2005, 04:23 PM
How much does Blackberry data cost, anyway?

I am also interested in what are paying for this service. Anyone...Anyone.. Bueller?...Anyone? :)

vermag
01-20-2005, 11:11 AM
I was informed by my organization's SPCS rep that BB unlimited data plan is $50 / mo (thats right, 50 bucks per month !). Even after the company discount, it is still $37.50 / mo. They do offer a bundle with the BB 7750, the BB data plan, and a "bolt on" voice plan for at least 700 minutes / mo which drops the device price considerably ($149 - $ 249 depending on the company discount structure).

Sprint's BB options are a non starter, since companies can get better BBs (with BT support) cheaper with AT&T/Cingular, which are quad band GSM. AT&T offers an unlimited data plan that is $45 ($33.75 after discount) with a voice bolt on, but for $20 more you can also get unlimited international data roaming. So AT&T Cingular has a cheaper device, cheaper data plan and offers unlimited international data coverage for 20 bucks more. Sprint despite having an intergrated data network in the US, has failed to make a competitive BB offering.

Calvin&Hobbes
01-20-2005, 12:16 PM
Rumor has it that my work may be issuing BB to each of us. If that is the case, I am still going to use my 660x if I can leave my laptop at home with BC to forward my emails.....and only take my BB with me if my laptop has be by my side on a trip.

jschu22
01-22-2005, 11:07 AM
In having no experience with the Blackberry I am obviously short on knowledge of its features. What can it do that has created this small but quite loyal following? What does it offer that something such as the Treo does not?

Calvin&Hobbes
01-22-2005, 12:34 PM
Ask the Corp IT guys who set up the email servers at their corporations. It is more MS Exchange vs Blackberry debate. Most phones will support MS Exchange, but are out of luck if your company has a RIM server. So many of use would love to have a phone that supports both.

Genesyxx1
03-31-2005, 08:03 AM
Well that answers my question about getting a Blackberry.

reidme
04-04-2005, 12:07 AM
...considering the impressive move Nextel made towards the PDA/Smartphone market share beginning in Q1 of 2004...

Huh? Since when has Nextel had any PDA/Smartphones?

mbrenner
04-07-2005, 12:22 AM
There is supposed to be a RIM cliant for the 650 soon. In which case the BB may not be necessary. Although if you need PTT this is not available on the 650 (Palm one said it is possilble on the hardware but sprint never asked for the software to be developed).

defiant
04-07-2005, 11:28 AM
There is supposed to be a RIM cliant for the 650 soon.

it depends on your definition of "soon".

kitmoni
04-21-2005, 09:09 AM
it depends on your definition of "soon".
I agree. I'm most unhappy with what appears to be a series of "loss leaders" pitched out by P1 and Sprint regarding the T650. P1 just passed the million phone mark, which is HIGH revenue for Sprint since they were first. But these promises have yet to come to fruition:

- BT DUN support
- Bb client on Palm
- High range BT (by that I mean a real 30 feet, not 3 feet)

If these had been actually delivered I would be willing to overlook the obvious manufacturing quality issues with the T650. It may be better than the 600 (didnn't have one, but I've heard the stories), but compared to the rest of the Bb world, the T650 is a toy in a machine's world.

To detroit's comments about the real application (email) -- ditto! The value of my T650 is in the quality of BC and my push email. Yes it's nice to have a phone that syncs with my outlook and keeps all my contacts, calendar and tasks, but the email is the real thing. Now I understand why their called "crack"berry. From my perspective, Sprint needs to embrace the Bb platform much more completely. Companies are flocking to BES, and the Bb devices are stable. My company is standardized on BES and is, temporarily, allowing me to be a maverick. But I'm like many, I'm sure, that will have to move to a Bb soon, even if it means leaving Sprint.

timberwolf78
05-06-2005, 09:26 PM
Although if you need PTT this is not available on the 650 (Palm one said it is possilble on the hardware but sprint never asked for the software to be developed).

Where can I find info regarding 650 having the capability to support PTT?

synthe
05-06-2005, 09:54 PM
this is a question i've always had since the sprint blackberry came out:
blackberry vs. treo 650 with BC(business connections). there are pro's and con's both ways. what are your guys thoughts?

mchakery
05-23-2005, 04:42 PM
I purchased my Blackberry for $289 and the unlimited data plan is $40 per month. The only catch was that you had to have a TAX ID corporate liable account in my market which is Central and South Texas. I have had my BB for 2 months and it works great just do not expect a lot of great technical support from Sprint. I imagine that is why they did not want to sell these lines to consumer liable accounts.

 
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