Innocent 650 vs 6601 Business Trip Showdown

[Calvin&Hobbes]

I wanted to share this unique experience that I had with a colleague of mine. Now please remember I loved my 600 and still like many aspects of the 650, ie the form factor, but due to the demands of my job chose the 6601 as I felt it suited my personal needs more.

I have a fellow manager with the 650 who always made a point to laugh at or put down my 6601 until he had to still carry his laptop around on two trips we took together this last month because of the limitations of the 650. I was able to leave my laptop at home each trip for the simple fact my phone has Wifi capabilities. He constantly pointed out how much bigger he felt the phone was over his 650 (though in reality was not a very big difference). But let's see....a couple mm bigger phone or a treo 650 with a laptop, bag, and all necessary accessories....which is more convenient? This point struck home when we were boarding the plane and he thought I left me laptop in the terminal, until I told him I left it in the office as I didn't need it because I had my 6601 with me.

Plus the speaker phone on my 6601 was far superior to the 650 so we had to use my phone for each of our conference calls. (am not not sure if this was the case with his 650 speaker phone or all 650 models.)

Plus, since we were in a Roaming Area, he did not have any internet access options on his 650 (roaming no Vision, no vision no internet, no internet no web or email access) so he constantly had to borrow mine with my Wifi card to check his stats and emails.

Plus since mine was the only one that could sync with the BT GPS that we borrowed from a friend (due to the 650 crippled BT) we had to us my 6601 for all the navigation in the rental car.

PLUS I forgot to mention he couldn't even make out going calls while in Roaming, so he had to use mine several times to call Corp or his boss.

Plus due to limited memory I saw him uninstall two programs during the trips to add the another he needed.

It's funny that he has not said a single thing, positive or negative about my phone since those trips.....I think after all the guff he dished out prior to the trips putting down my decision to go with the 6601 over the 650 put him in a bad spot when he become so dependent on the 6601 when his 650 could not pull the job. Just a single example of some of the reasons I personally chose the 6601 over the 650.

I have always recognized that every phone has it's target market that fits perferctly for it's customers. I know a lot people who love the 650, and rightly so, as it fits their needs just perfectly. But I cant decide to laugh at or be concerned for those that are so close minded that they get so hooked on a single phone that they cannot recognize there really are other options out there that could possibly do a better job with what they want to do.

[SaNyO911]

Cool!!! I like the candor, I think thats how it should be. Choose the device that works best for you. If it works for you, your less likely to be unhappy with it. Happy customers are good customers. Any pics of the 6600 by the way???

[macaddiict]

Had no idea the 6601 had wi-fi until I read this thread. Did you have to jump through hoops to get yours? Seems like very few have them...

Glad to here it is working for you though! Makes the 650 look terrible though...

[jimbo999]

Had no idea the 6601 had wi-fi until I read this thread. Did you have to jump through hoops to get yours? Seems like very few have them...

Glad to here it is working for you though! Makes the 650 look terrible though...
It doesn't have built-in WiFi, he must be using a WiFi sdio card.

[bjork_rules]

The 650 has WiFi drivers now.

The 6601 just looks so stupid held up to the sides of people's heads. The thing is a monster. Have you had any problems from the screaming earpiece bug that seems to affect all of the 6601's?

[ben100]

Heh heh... no biases there, eh bjork?

Hobbes is using a socket wi-fi card. I have one too in my 6601. Works very well...

Considering it's thinner than the 600/650, and slightly shorter without the antenna, I think that 'monster' may be a bit of hyperbole...

I hope the 650's wifi drivers get fixed at some point so you can still use your 'vision' account. Right now it's one or the other, not both...

No beep problem here. I have heard that a few users have had it, but it doesn't seem to have attracted the kind of loathing that the 650's memory issues have...

Just my 2 cents...

- Ben

[jackdaniels]

As a G1000 owner that has used a friends 6601 I can tell you that the 6601 is not a brick. I myself will be first inline when Sprint releases the 6600. I use the camera on the G1000 too often to give up that feature. It's good to hear some positive experiences with the 6601 from people on this board.

[gameboy213]

Nice review......... an honest opinion, that doesn't bash. Good read!
I can't wait to pick up a 6600 or 01........ haven't decided yet.

[Tekara]

Can't wait for the 6600 to hit the shelves.

[g.711]

The 650 has WiFi drivers now.

The 6601 just looks so stupid held up to the sides of people's heads. The thing is a monster. Have you had any problems from the screaming earpiece bug that seems to affect all of the 6601's?

Its not a brick if you use a blue tooth headset. How cool is that when people will ask “hey where is your phone?” Plus when you weigh all the features you will now have available on the road. It’s a done deal.

Good job Hobbes, you are real…

[bjork_rules]

Its not a brick if you use a blue tooth headset. How cool is that when people will ask “hey where is your phone?” Plus when you weigh all the features you will now have available on the road. It’s a done deal.

Good job Hobbes, you are real…
Is that like the BT on the 650? Nevermind.

The big size difference with the 6601 is how wide it is. The 650 is already too wide and the 6601 is even more so.

Too many reports of keypads falling off on the 6601. Maybe they'll fix the bugs and hardware problems with the release of the 6600.

[ben100]

I also heard that the 6601 will give you herpes. STAY AWAY!!!

:-) - B

[Tekara]

heh and maybe there will be a 651 to fix all the problems with the 650; instead of having to rely on the community for unofficial work arounds. Shadowmite is doing great work, but I can't believe that what he is doing is even neccessary. Everything he has put out should have been done before the first unit left PalmOne.

Anyway, the 6600 definately looks to be the stronger unit for what I want. I want the larger screen for movies and games, I want more memory so I can put more junk on my pda and I want better support for ms office documents which is what is common.

[bjork_rules]

I just hope that Audiovox fixes the loose keyboards and the earpiece screaming when they release the 6600. I've never been a big fan of Palm, but right now the 650 is a much better phone than the 6601. Heavy PDA users may certainly feel otherwise since the 6601 does some things that the 650 doesn't.

[Kash76]

I am also looking at both devices and struggle.

I love the size of the 650 but don't like palm OS.

I like PocketPC as an OS but with the lack of built in WiFi and now owning a Dell x50v with VGA the 660x screen is pretty ugly to me.

I may go with the Treo and use the DUN fix to use with my Dell!?

[Calvin&Hobbes]

Is that like the BT on the 650? Nevermind.

The big size difference with the 6601 is how wide it is. The 650 is already too wide and the 6601 is even more so.

Too many reports of keypads falling off on the 6601. Maybe they'll fix the bugs and hardware problems with the release of the 6600.

Sorry it took me so long to answer some of you questions...I need to set this forum to email with new posts. :o

The big difference between the BT on each phone is that the BT on the 660x is not crippled.

At of all the 660x forums I frequent I have never heard of one fall off!!! There are reports of some become looser with time, which is fine with me as long as it still locks in the closed and up positions because it makes it easier wtih one handed operation. Very few have actually reported major keyboard issues. For the most part it is solid and well made with a good design.

Yes I have the Socket Wifi card...and it works flawlessly. DO NOT get the Scandisk 256 mb Combo as they do not have drivers for 2nd edition and refuse to write any.

And for the beep that disconnects a call....this is ONLY with the Sprint PPC-6601 and only a few models are affected. The VZ6600/SX66 have not had a single report of this happening. I am working with a Sprint National Sales Manager to work from the inside to get this addressed and resolved. Hopefully we will see an update come out soon.

I hope this helps.

[bjork_rules]

Doesn't seem like the BT on the 6601 works very well for a lot of people: http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39038

It'd be nice to see all of the 6601 problems remedied before release of the 6600. P1 needs to have a little competition to help drive them.

[sloop]

never had a pda but i am considering the 6600 when its available - i am no microsoft fan but don't want that palm operating system either - the attraction i have for the 6600 is its ev-do capability - with all the ifs: if sprint enables it on the 6600 when the network is available - if sprint does not charge me $300/month to use it - etc

[Calvin&Hobbes]

I just hope that Audiovox fixes the loose keyboards and the earpiece screaming when they release the 6600. I've never been a big fan of Palm, but right now the 650 is a much better phone than the 6601. Heavy PDA users may certainly feel otherwise since the 6601 does some things that the 650 doesn't.

Bjork... With any phone there is a law of averages concerning hardware problems....heck I wonder if we did a poll on how many Treo 600 users had to have their phone replaced at least once (if not 6 times) that the VAST majority would answer yes ... and that was without ANY moving parts!

...Anyway the point is yes there have been problems reported but they are by far the minority of the users. Most of the 660x/SX66/VZ6600 users say it is solid and well built. Remember this is NOT a new phone, as the PDA2K has been out for around a year now....this is just new to the USA. It has already proved the test of time very well, IMHO.

The beeping is ONLY with the Srint series of 6601. VZ and Cing do not have the a single report of the problem probably due to them releasing the phone later and having a later software update.

Have been working Sprint National Sales Manager on this issue to pass it on and press the upper corp tech depart to resolve it with a update or batch soon.

Please see this thread of what happenned on two business trips I took with a fellow manager who had a Treo 650 while I was using my 6601:

Innocent 650 vs 6601 Business Trip Showdown
( http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55973 )

I found those trips very enlightening.

[Calvin&Hobbes]

Doesn't seem like the BT on the 6601 works very well for a lot of people: http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39038

It'd be nice to see all of the 6601 problems remedied before release of the 6600. P1 needs to have a little competition to help drive them.

Bjork...through out several threads, you seem to throw this one sided comments out slamming the PPC-660x with a blind eye to the Treo 650's HUGE issues (i.e. can't run a program more that 10 mb, can't make calls while roaming, major mem issues, no wifi support as promised, ect...) while raising it in all it's glory for the world to see and behold! :rolleyes:

I agree that there are issues with both phones...and bot must be addressed to be fair to those who are seriously considering to buy one between the two. Each set of problems must be weighed against:

1) how you plan to use the phone,
2) how wide spread the problem is.
3) the past response to fixing issues in a timely matter with positive results

Here is my point of view on the top issues that personally impact me and my decision with each phone:

TREO 650 Memory problem seems to be the highlight of it's list of issues. This is a widespread problem that apparently is going to effect EVERY user until they come out with a fix. This will mostly effect those who use programs the MUST use memory and not a SD card. I.E. Email, browser cache, a lot of updating programs that need to sync databases, etc.... I found with the 600 that I had to compromise my desire to use the phone how I wanted to or needed to because of lack of memory available, even with a 512 card inserted. This issue will only increases that, until it is addressed.

Time frame to be fixed, who knows. History has shown that P1 is often slow to respond to a fix, but maybe the fact that they have started to hint at recognizing the problem is a good sign.

TRE0 650 No Wifi Card Support. It is confirmed that the 650 does not support Wifi Cards. They say that they will come out with a driver, but we got the same promise a year ago with the 600 with nothing to make the promise come true. A Sprint National Manager told me that they were told that the 650 will never support a Wifi Card.

We are not left with users to hack out drivers/hacks/patches.

TREO 650 Bluetooth. It has been confirmed that it will be crippled. With talking the same Sprint National Manager, he said that GPS probably will not even supported. I know this is not a problem, as it was designed this way, but relates to my decision and to the PPC-6601 Bluetooth issue mentioned below.

TRE0 650 Not Able To Make Outgoing Calls While Roaming. This bug alone would kill me as most of district is in roaming areas. I am not sure if this is wide spread with everyone or a minority of users, but it is major issue.

PPC-6601 buzzing on certain incoming calls. I had this happen 2 times in over a 100 calls, to many for my confort. But I have not had this happen yet with my new phone. This is ONLY happening on the Sprint 6601 phones and is NOT an issue on the VZ6600 or SX66 or the PDA2k. It is only happening to a few of the users with sprint at that as some report no problems while others report the beeping. This is software related and Sprint is working on the patch right now. Unkown ETA.

PPC-6601 Bluetooth issues. The main issue is getting Headsets to work with voice command and not losing connection when it goes to sleep. I-Mate which has been using this phone for quite awhile now is aware of the problem and stated that it is all fixable with an update. So hopfully Sprint can play off of that. There are several builds that users have put together while we wait for the official to come out. Rumors has it that it is not long in coming.

I current use a BT Keyboard, BT Travel Mouse, BT iTrek GPS on my 6601 without a hitch.

PPC-6601 is too big, cannot nav onehanded, or the phone app is crap. Please see my detailed response to these issues at
http://discussion.treocentral.com/s...ead.php?t=62661

We do not have a base to judge the past response time for fixing the 6601 issues, but maybe we can get an idea with from the PDA2k, which have been for the most part fast and effective.

Conclusion: As always, it comes down to your likes, dislikes, any loyalty to a company vs usefulness to your needs......or simply just boiled down to the lesser of two evils.

The bottom line for me is that BOTH phones have issues. The issues with the 660x seem to be fixable with updates. While the 650 has several issues that may be more hardware related than software related, which makes it near impossible to address without a recall.

All in all, after using the 660x for over 4 weeks, including on the road, I am very happy with it. I hope that the Treo 700 is able to learn many lessons from both the 650 and the 6601. They both have features that if combined just right would be the ultimate convergence device.

[bjork_rules]

1. The 650 now supports WiFi.
2. The 650 supports BT DUN and works with BT GPS.

The huge size, lack of build quality, beeping on incoming calls, BT problems, and poor phone side are what drove me away from the 6601. The VZ6600's lack of earpiece beeping doesn't concern me because I have Sprint service, not Verizon.

[ben100]

Hobbes, why do you take the bait? This guy is religious about the Treo, and your logical arguments aren't going to make him blaspheme.

- Ben

[Calvin&Hobbes]

Hobbes, why do you take the bait? This guy is religious about the Treo, and your logical arguments aren't going to make him blaspheme.

- Ben

Ben, it is not so much as taking the bait, as it was that obvious after the third post I found of his.

It is more just making sure that those who are reading these forums who are serious about an honest unbiased opinion get the chance to make the decision for themselves for the phone that best suites their personal needs and personal preferences.

(could he be the Treominator from TC?? :rolleyes: :hee: )

[Orbitz]

Very well put Hobbes. Of course, I think many of us are used to ignoring the comments that show up on these and other forums where people are clearly very one sided in their views. I have no problem with people who are really supporters of the products that work for them....but when I see people who only point out all of the weak points of other products while trying to suggest that their own "favorite" device has none I just laugh a little. Dam near every product discussed on these boards have plusses and minuses....and everyone has slightly different needs. Just because the 650 has a memory issue or the 6601 has a BT issue...it doesn't mean one is superior to the other...it just means you should consider how these issues relate to what you want to accomplish with the device.

[bjork_rules]

Again, the 650 supports WiFi and BT DUN. The PPC fanboy said that it didn't. He also claimed that it didn't work with GPS, but it does. Just trying to get the facts out there since someone keeps trying to spew inaccuracies.

You might want to check the address in your address bar right now. I believe that it says "www.sprintusers.com" I don't care if Verizon's version of the 6600 doesn't have the terrible earpiece beeping problem that Sprint's version does. I'm sticking with Sprint and can't have calls not come through due to a problem with my phone.

[Calvin&Hobbes]

Bjork...thank you for the update.
He also claimed that it didn't work with GPS, but it does. Just trying to get the facts out there since someone keeps trying to spew inaccuracies.I was merely passing on what P1 told the National Sprint Sales Manager in my area concerning the GPS. I am glad that some have gotten it to work with the 650 as P1 must have fixed it, updated it, or changed their minds. I did a quick search and here is a great thread talking about at least one GPS unit working with the Treo 650:

I have TomTom GPS working on my Treo650
( http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=65724 )

If you want to see if any other GPS units are working with the 650 GPSpassion would be a good place to look as well.

Again, the 650 supports WiFi and BT DUN. The PPC fanboy said that it didn't.If you read my post above, already agreed with you that there are now some user created updates or hacks to help get Wifi. The point was that it is sad that P1 really dropped the ball on this one to point that users are left to come up with a solution on their own.

For those that have a Treo 650 here is the best thread on how to (hopefully) get Wifi to work on your phone with user created solutions. There are over 1,075 posts on this single thread alone trying to get it to work, so hopefully it will help:

T5 Wifi Drivers, will they work on the Treo 650?
( http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=64490 )

You might want to check the address in your address bar right now. I believe that it says "www.sprintusers.com" I don't care if Verizon's version of the 6600 doesn't have the terrible earpiece beeping problem that Sprint's version does. I'm sticking with Sprint and can't have calls not come through due to a problem with my phone.You missed my whole point with mentioning VZ and Cing. It was not to promote those carriers as I fully agree with you that Sprint is superior in CS, pricing, and coverage, but that their phones came out after Sprints. They do not have the issue due to a later version of software. That means there is a fix already and Sprint just has to port it over. Hence it should not be long for a fix.

[QUOTE=bjork_rules]The PPC fanboyQUOTE]I have always recognized in nearly every one my posts that every phone has it's target market that fits perferctly for it's customers. I know a lot people who love the 650, and rightly so, as it fits their needs just right. I like the Treo 650 for several reasons and I like the PPC-660x for other reasons. I also have individual concerns with both. Both suite the needs for different people and different situations. I wish I was able to have both! But for my personal needs, as the story that started this thread shows, the PPC-669x fit me the best to help me meet my demands with my job.

QUESTION: Bjork...I try to keep up but since I have apparently fallen behind one some of the progress with addressing the challenges with the 650, has P1 come out with a fix for no outgoing calls while roaming, sound quality patch, or a memory fix? I have a good friend with a 650 that would love some good news on these three issues. He loves the phone, but is getting pretty frustrated with these few problems at the moment.

[bjork_rules]

Yes, the 650 does BT DUN, WiFi and BT GPS. I know that the 6601 has trouble with some WiFi cards which you can attest to after struggling to get WiFi working on your unit for over two weeks. Hopefully the 6600 will work better with WiFi cards.

Audiovox has been promising a 6601 patch for months. It was originally supposed to be out on November. Didn't happen. Hasn't happened in December either.

The roaming problem with the 650 seems to be less widespread than the earpiece beeping that kills conversations on the 6601. Each seems to only affect some units and not others.

Palm has already released a BT carkit update, while the 6601 is still incompatible with many BT-equipped cars. There are lots of people having trouble getting their 6601 to do anything in their cars. The sound quality patch is also available.

There really isn't a problem with the memory on the 650. It uses non-volatile memory which gives it the ability to have a removeable battery. Is the battery removeable on the 6601? P1 also gives you a free 128MB SD card.

The other major issue is the broken slide on the 6601. There are a number of reports of slides falling apart. While I agree that insurance is a good idea on a $600+ device, you should also get something that isn't junk for your $600+. Your cracked LCD is also less than confidence inspiring.

I'd consider looking at a 6600, but only if Audiovox reports fixing the numerous problems that plague the 6601. Otherwise, their promises of timely firmware updates are meaningless to me.

I'm also wondering if the 6601 gets slapped with a higher monthly fee for Vision than other devices?

[Calvin&Hobbes]

Okay this just going in circles as I've addressed just about every one of these issues above.

Highlights:

Again. Keyboard is a minority problem. Vast majority claim Over all built well, easy to use...may losen over time but works well.

Cracked screen...I also had one on my Treo 600 when it only dropped 18 inches inside it's case onto a padded gym mat. It happens. Single issue none other reported on any other forum.

128 mb SD card...that is how much onboard memory the PPC has.

Both phone have issues, both have benefits. I had 4 treo 600 replaced because of defects and a cracked screen. I had 2 PPC-6601 replaced because of single defect and a cracked screen. Find the one that has problems you can live with. List the benefits that suite your Personal needs, i.e. smaller to pocket or bigger screen with landscape to surf web & docs... And try it out. The bottom line is that if you follow these steps and try it out you should be very happy either way.

[bjork_rules]

I still have a couple of questions about the 6601:

Does the 6601 get slammed with an extra monthly fee for using Vision?

Does the 6601 have a removeable battery?

Any word on when the bug fix will finally be released? Will the 6600 already have the fixes installed?

I just wish that someone would make a phone like the 6601, except smaller. Give it the pixel density of the 650 or the 4050 (both screens kill the 6601), the internal antenna of the 6601 and the sliding keyboard of the 6601 (but fix the hardware problem). They could even give it an external sliding keypad. Kind of a blend of a 650 and a T5. The 6601 is such a behemoth to only have a 240x320 screen.

[Calvin&Hobbes]

Does the 6601 get slammed with an extra monthly fee for using Vision?
Officially yes. There is a seperate Vision plan for any Pocket PC. But as several people across many forums have shared, that they are not big on enforcing that with current customers. They never charged me for example. I have also heard of several new customers saying that they just asked not to have the extra charge because they don't use the net that much and they didn't charge it. So the bottom line is officially Yes. But they don't have to if they don't want to so "accidently" disconnect yourself and call back until you get a rep who is willing to help you out. :hee:

Does the 6601 have a removeable battery?
Yes it does. I bought my spare battery for $50.

Any word on when the bug fix will finally be released? Will the 6600 already have the fixes installed?
I talked the National Sprint Manager on Friday and he said that they are working on it and hopefully very soon, but no confirmed ETA. I will be talking to him again tomorrow so I will see what I can find out.

As for the 6600, I will be able to tell you for sure shortly as mine has already been ordered and I waiting for the order to be fulfilled.

I just wish that someone would make a phone like the 6601, except smaller. Give it the pixel density of the 650 or the 4050 (both screens kill the 6601), the internal antenna of the 6601 and the sliding keyboard of the 6601 (but fix the hardware problem). They could even give it an external sliding keypad. Kind of a blend of a 650 and a T5. The 6601 is such a behemoth to only have a 240x320 screen.
Well said...I would be first line to buy!!!!!!

[bjork_rules]

Thanks again for the info. I'm looking forward to your review of the 6600. If they've fixed the few bugs and beefed up the phone app a bit, I might give one a try. The size may still be a deal breaker though. I found a good thread on HF that had pictures of the 6601 and 650 together.

I also meant to say T3 above (with the slider), not the T5, but you knew what I meant.

[SpineDoc]

The size difference is not much, for some reason people magnify the couple of mm's that the 6601 has on the 650. Dont forget the 650 is thicker than the 6601, and just seems more bulky in the pocket because of this.

[khyricat]

I decided that the 6601 will better suit my needs, but my husbands needs are suited best by the treo he has and loves... I find either of them slightly uncomfortable in the hand for phoen usage, but speakerphone/bluetooth takes away that worry with both of them, and for my needs I think the 6601 makes more sense (or the 6600 if I have to- no need for a camera, so why bother)... there are pros and cons to both and Hobbes- I wanted ot thank you for posting your stories and comparisons because though I had pretty much made my decision you addressed some of my concerns better then anything else I had found on the internet. I also want to remind him that the 650 he has been talking about upgrading to has major BT issues so he might be better off sticking with his 600 for a bit longer... besides I don't want to spend the money on 2 phones that close together... but do you know if you can get the discount on the 6601 now? They told me no (my phone is 4! years old!) if I can get it, I'm tempted to order it right now and not wait. my old palm bit the dust 2 weeks ago and my phone is dying- its time for new devices for me, and I'd like the combo unit this go round so I have less to carry...

The big question I have- has anyone tried any of the software that lets you beam from a PPC device to a Palm device and back and forth??? I believe Peacekeeper is the only one out there.. and I need that ability in whatever I get, so would like to know this has been tried by someone.

Thanks!

Amie

[Calvin&Hobbes]

With Sprint if you have not used the rebate option for 18 months, I believe you will be good to go with a $150 rebate with a 2 yr contract.

Don't know about Peacekeeper as I have never used it.

[khyricat]

With Sprint if you have not used the rebate option for 18 months, I believe you will be good to go with a $150 rebate with a 2 yr contract.

Don't know about Peacekeeper as I have never used it.

I know I can use the discount but was blown off on the entire concept of buying a 6601 the other day on the phone and in the store- they told me I had to be a business customer or wait- the funny part is we've been talking about switching things to a business plan anyway since we run a business and with both of us haivng vision it might be worth it... and ah well.. was worth asking here about peacekeeper.. maybe someone here will know about it or something similar!

Amie

[Calvin&Hobbes]

They are right the phone is only available through Business Sales at the moment.

There has been talk of even if the Sprint will bring it to retail...though I think VZ success with this will help them reconsider that line of thought. For Sprint if they cannot sell 1000 units a day national average they are not interested in going Retail with it.

They feel it is too expensive and high end.....yet they offer they offer the Treo 650 for only $29 less at retail. I hope Sprint doesn't think the Treo is that far below the PPC-660x. :rolleyes:

[gameboy213]

I played with my friends TREO 650 all last week. Nice phone........... but I hate the palm os. bottom line. Going to get the 6600/01 when they are out with the updates.....

[bjork_rules]

FWIW, the Verizon phones are also having serious problems with being able to place and receive calls. http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=39959

Audiovox had better get this fixed very quickly.

[khyricat]

and they didn't make me switch to business service- the woman I talked to didn't understand why the prior rep wouldn't do it... and they gave me the 150$ credit as a rebate!

[MickCole]

and they didn't make me switch to business service- the woman I talked to didn't understand why the prior rep wouldn't do it... and they gave me the 150$ credit as a rebate!
Same here. I ordered last night, with no problems at all. The woman who took my order told me I was entitled to the $150 rebate before I even asked about it.
I was going to wait unitl the 660x was available in the stores, but have now seen enough positive reviews to go ahead with the Telesales order. Barring weather delays in shipping, etc., I should have it by Friday.
Mick

[gameboy213]

Let us know what you think!

[khyricat]

I love it.. been playing all afternoon.. it got here while I was at a docs appt this AM.. not happy at having it left on my porch while I wasn't home, but that happens!

Amie

[gameboy213]

I am quite jealous! :)

[MickCole]

Mine arrived late yesterday--less than 48 hours after I ordered it. Charged the battery overnight, and now getting ready to activate.
Mick

[MUSTANGT]

I've had mine over a week now and love it. I've been watching a DVD movie off of it, making calls, general browsing, and after a 10 hour work day i have 15% battery left..lol. So what I do with it has performed pretty well for me. I have only had it a week though. Keeping fingers crossed :p

[gedansky]

I swear I looked it up on the Sprint PCS Website the other day, and saw all the specs etc.

Now, it is gone. Anyone know what happened?

[Touchless21]

I swear I looked it up on the Sprint PCS Website the other day, and saw all the specs etc.

Now, it is gone. Anyone know what happened?


You were on the business side of the site.

[Calvin&Hobbes]

Here is the link:

http://www.sprint.com/business/products/phones/ppc6601_allPcsPhones.jsp

[Calvin&Hobbes]

Just a follow up on the original post of this thread.....

I was down at corp last week and could not escape the attention that the 6601 drew from the top corp ranks, to the IT guys, to my other fellow District Managers. Most of them have either a Blackberry / 600 / 650 / or a regular cell phone.

The first time I pulled out my 6601 to check and reply to an email, I didn't see my phone for nearly 70 minutes as it was passed from one person to the next.

Then when I pulled out my BT Keyboard and BT mouse for it, they were very impressed.

As a result three of them have now bought a 6601 and love it and many others took note of the phone for themselves or to share with their friends.

All of this with even a cracked screen! (my replacement 6600 should be shipped out on Jan 25th).

It was pretty :waycool: .