Best Headset (wireless) for PM-325???

[Cbrniner]

Well the title says it all ....what is the best wireless (bluetooth) headset for the LG PM-325 ?? give your reviews on any wireless headset youve used or know of someone has used ...

Thanks , Todd in Vegas

[mojochris]

I've got the Moto HS820 paired with the 325, so far I love it!

[tbakergobucks]

I got the 820 as well and so far I like it but haven't used it that much. Here's a review on it. I guess it come in different colors?

http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Id=822&source=BROWSER

[Cbrniner]

do any have call waiting ability????

[wfrantz]

Thanks for starting this thread. I have the Bluetrek (not G2) headset and a 325. I have had mixed results.

I have never quite grasped how it's supposed to work. I am never sure if I'm going to be able to answer calls from the headset. I can make calls just fine almost everytime. Sometimes I'll have to turn the headset off and on again before dialing but it usually works. Incoming calls are another story. My headset supports the Handsfree profile and the Headset profile and I'm never sure which to use. Sometimes I can hear the phone ring on the headset and sometimes I can't.

Usually I have to answer the call on the phone and then transfer the audio to the headset. That works (almost) every time but it takes too long.

William Frantz
http://SprintDevelopers.com

[wl_lifestyle]

Jabra.. only way to go :)

$99 is a good price too. I find it more comfortable for long periods of wearing.

[tbakergobucks]

with the Motorolo 820 so far I hear a beep everytime someone calls. I couldn't figure out at first how to use voice dial on the headset but all I had to do was go to the bluetooth menu pushed ok on my device then went to key prompt and selected voice dial. I could select redial, voice dial or none. Sometimes I forget I have the 820 on my ear it's light and confertable. One thing that I didn't like about a jabra one is that it seemed hard to put on quickly. The 820 goes on quick. The one thing I don't like is the bright blue light flashing and no sound when you turn it on and off. I guess it's not that great with windy conditions but probally most aren't. Not sure if I should leave both on all day, if it runs the battery down? How many voice dials can it store? It says up to 30ft range but I think that migh be a little long and if nothing is in your way like a wall. I live in a split level and my phone was in the basement and I walked upstairs to the bathroom and losted connection. But so far seems to be working good in the car and that's mainly why I wanted it.

[BC525]

Jabra.. only way to go :)

$99 is a good price too. I find it more comfortable for long periods of wearing.

Love my Jabra too, but I am finding that the range just blows with this phone....if I turn away from the phone it starts getting static....

The model I have is the Jabra for Non-BT phones, so I've been using it for 6 months with my old phone and using it with it's adapter I could get a good 25 feet away before getting static, but when I pair it with the 325....not to good at all......

[mojochris]

I'm getting about 20 foot with the 820, through a couple of walls. I've got a wireless router and I seem to get a bit of interference when I get close to it, but other then that works fine.

[BC525]

I'm getting about 20 foot with the 820, through a couple of walls. I've got a wireless router and I seem to get a bit of interference when I get close to it, but other then that works fine.


Never gave my wireless router any thought to this...that could be the deal! I've got to solve this and keep the Jabra...the design is just awesome...I hate all of the other models because they are so intrusive....nothing like having this huge wide piece protruding from the side of your head...not to mention with this Jabra design...it's easy to wear with a hat (getting cold out!)

:-)

[dynamojon]

what about headsets that work in noisy environments- city streets, trains, and cars? Do y'alls work well in these places?

[Bryans]

what about headsets that work in noisy environments- city streets, trains, and cars? Do y'alls work well in these places?


I use my Sony HBH-300 on the streets in NYC with no problems. From what I have heard all of the Sony HBH series headsets(65, 300, 600, 660) are excellent. I chose the -300 because it has a longer mic boom than most bluetooth headsets, I think thats one reason it works better in noisy environments than any other I have used.

http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=114272

[skrubol]

I've heard many good things about the HBH300 as far as outgoing sound quality. I have its predecessor (HBH-35), and most of the complaints I have about it have been addressed with the 300.

[autobotjazz13]

Stupid question time: do most of these headsets come with answer buttons? Logically I would think so, but no one ever said companies think logically.

[inteller]

Jabra.. only way to go :)

$99 is a good price too. I find it more comfortable for long periods of wearing.

$99!??!?!?!?!?!?!?! holy crap man! jabras are HUGE! you seriously need to sell that thing and pick one up a Sony on eBay for a LOT less that $99.

[Deval]

Stupid question time: do most of these headsets come with answer buttons? Logically I would think so, but no one ever said companies think logically.

yeah they do...

[autobotjazz13]

yeah they do...

thanks D. I felt like a newb asking that question. :cool:

[Deval]

thanks D. I felt like a newb asking that question. :cool:

yeah not a prob...I was wondering the same thing till i got my jabra

[toothblue]

I think I might be taking my motorola 850 back because a friend told me it that his voice had a slight echo. I tested it and heard it as well. Might try out the motorola 810 tomorrow.

[skrubol]

At a minimum all wireless headsets I've seen have an "action" button (call/answer/hang up etc.) and volume up/down buttons. Some have more. Also some combination of these buttons or holding them does other functions (initiate pairing, connect, battery level, etc.)

[clinko]

I have tried the STEP 1150, Earglove BlueVoice (sold by Sprint), and Jabra BT 250. Voice quality and function is best so far with the BT 250. I have not been able to keep the other 2 connected for any lengh of time without multiple and random disconnects. Will continue the quest-anybody have any ideas?

[inteller]

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[wfrantz]

Stupid question time: do most of these headsets come with answer buttons? Logically I would think so, but no one ever said companies think logically.A better question is, "does the answer button actually work?" In my experience, it only works sometimes. Frequently, I've been unable to answer my 325 from my Bluetrek headset. I've had to answer using the keypad and then transfer the call to the headset.

I think my headset or my phone gets caught in some funky mode that I can't get it out of. I can turn off the phone but there's no hard off switch on my headset and I can't remove the battery. I wait about 5 minutes, try again, and suddenly it's working. I sure would like to figure out the pattern because it's been very frustrating.

I don't want to spend $75-$150 on a headset but I'm ready to if it will actually work. I hate to blow that kind of money if it's not going to be any better than my Bluetrek and it's hard to say if my problem is my phone or my headset.

Here's the owner's manual for my headset:
http://www.bluetrek.com/bluetrek/bluetrek1.2_manual.htm

William Frantz
http://SprintDevelopers.com

[mcurtiss1970]

i would not recmmend a Jabra at all. Do a search on "jabra static" and see what turns up.

i really like my SE 600. very nice sound and a decent price of less that $90

[mrvid]

I have the g2 and the bt-200 I like the bt-200.Seems to have better sound and range than the g2. People say that the bt-200 sound is clearer to them. And the Bt-200 seems to fit better and stay in place. I did try a Moto 810 and 820 but the fit was weird.

[inteller]

i would not recmmend a Jabra at all. Do a search on "jabra static" and see what turns up.

i really like my SE 600. very nice sound and a decent price of less that $90


FYI, you can get HBH-600s for $60 shipped now.

[wfrantz]

FYI, you can get HBH-600s for $60 shipped now.
The 600 doesn't have good reviews on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00024SGL4/002-2516575-9703218?v=glance

Where can you find it for $60?

William Frantz
http://SprintDevelopers.com

[mojochris]

[QUOTE=wfrantz]A better question is, "does the answer button actually work?" In my experience, it only works sometimes. Frequently, I've been unable to answer my 325 from my Bluetrek headset. I've had to answer using the keypad and then transfer the call to the headset.


My 820 seems to be working just fine. The only thing I've run into is I sometimes forget to turn it on after I take it off the charger. :rolleyes:

Other then that the answer, volume up and down (the volume goes much higher then I need), and the voice dial all work very very well. I've got 15 names or so programmed in for voice dial and it's not missed a one when I use it from the headset. I got it at best buy for $80 (I know it's cheaper online... but it was a "I want it now kind of thing"), and it's by far the best phone accessory I've ever bought. Just wish there was a belt holster for it as I don't always wear shirts with pockets.

[nxtr]

Just found this one Cardo Scala 500 http://www.cardowireless.com/scala_500.php it has quite a few good reviews here is the manufactures page and here is a link for a great price compared to others http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/accessorydetail.asp?id=20228

Nick

[inteller]

The 600 doesn't have good reviews on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00024SGL4/002-2516575-9703218?v=glance

Where can you find it for $60?

William Frantz
http://SprintDevelopers.com


check my previously mentioned eBay searches.

[Orbitz]

I just picked up the lg325 and radio shack and happen to see a moto 810 hanging on the rack. Grabbed it...and went home to activate the phone. 5 min after pulling the 810 it was paired and working perfectly. Sound quality is better then I had expected (first bt headset) and the call / answer button works very (so far) perfectly. I have to pick up the phone to initiat the call...hit the call button on the hadset and audio is transferred to the headset etc. Surprising how painless this was to set up right out of the box.

[gravy]

I have the sony akono HBH-660 and the LG pm-325. I got it because
it was highly recommended at that other sprint site
It works fine sometimes and then I go to make a call by pushing
the talk button and get the say the name prompt but as soon as
I say the name the headset stops working and the call has transferred
to the 325. Then after I hang up I try to re-establish the connection
it doesn't connect back to the 660. I have to restart the phone and
then it will connect with the headset. Called Customer Service and
was first told that if I didn't buy the headset from sprint they couldn't
help me. She thought I was talking about a palm device. I was
transferred to a tier 2 tech who said it must be with the headset, but
when I tried to explain to him that it must be the phone because
the headset didn't need to be reset, he hung up on me. After getting
transferred back and forth a million times I talked to someone who
basically said they hadn't been trained on bluetooth yet and didn't
even have the headsets in to test yet. So for those of you who have this
headset and phone, does this haappen to you? I've only had it 2 days
and it happened to me 4 or 5 times. Is it the phone or the headset?

[JesseRPI]

The best?! Right here buddy, and apparently this applies not just to the Treo 650, but pretty much every bluetooth phone I've tried:

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55585

[deuce300]

I've been using the Motorola 98405 bluetooth headset with the PM-325 with much success. Actually I have had no problems thus far. My battery life on the phone has been stellar and I use the bluetooth headset for 90%+ of my calls. This can be somewhat attributed to the extended battery I am using on the PM325 but should be noted regardless. The 98405 is a little long in the tooth these days but remarkably works well, and better than newer headsets I've been reading about with the PM325.

I bought the headset originally since it was the only one that reportedly worked marginally with a T608 but I had issues with it in 1 out of 3 calls and had to reset it when the bluetooth link crapped out which requires a 5 second connection to a charger. Very annoying.

All of those issues are gone now since using it with the PM325 Friday last week. What amazes me is that the headset is reasonably loud enough for most environments, though I'm sure there are louder headsets out there. Also, the battery life has been pretty good for the headset, I got about 2 hours of talk time before recharging it the other day and it never indicated the battery was low.

Another main reason I like the 98405 is due to the form factor. Its very small since it has the folding boom like the hs810 and hs850. The fact that I can place the headset in my pocket and not worry about the boom breaking off is a MAJOR plus.

This is one of the reasons the Sony's, Nokia's and others are a major turnoff to me, they arent compact enough when in my pocket since I believe its only a matter of time before the ear hook or boom becomes damaged. I was going to look into a nextlink bluespoon but considering the negative comments around here lately I'm leaning towards trying an hs810 or hs850 to see if my experience is improved at all.

I will say the headset is a bit loose and the speaker is a tad low and scratchy once in a while (on my end) but I've asked over a dozen people during a bluetooth headset call about the sound quality and they stated that it sounded just as if I was using the cell phone handset or a landline...no loss in quality of outgoing sound any of the times. This is great considering that I paid $25 for the headset a year ago via eBay. I definitely feel that I got my money's worth and more. Those looking for a cheaper alternative might want to consider this one...looks like new 98405's are $35+ and shipping. I'm sure a few will turn up once in a while for cheaper.

[demetri]

I think I might be taking my motorola 850 back because a friend told me it that his voice had a slight echo. I tested it and heard it as well. Might try out the motorola 810 tomorrow.


i've tried the 810 and NO echo. i've had had echo's with SPRINT when using either the handset or a bt headset. i think it is the signal/service and not the phone or headset.

[jerereyn205]

I don't have any problems with my HS-810, V600, 7610, or 3650 and my router.

[deuce300]

Excellent, I think I'm gonna try an HS810 for the heck of it.

[Orbitz]

Well...after posting about moto 810 earlier I decided to start asking people if the sound was acceptable. Turns out that 6 our of 6 people rated the sound as very poor....but they attributed it (in earlier conversations) to fact I was on a cell phone....never occured to them I was on a head set unitl I asked them today. The number one complaint was a VERY distinct echo of their own voice (to them). My voice was very clear...but everything they said had an echo. Static was also a pretty big complaint. Just to check...I switched between the handset (phone) and headset several times...and sure enough there was no echo or static or echo when talking directly on the handset.

I don't have any wireless networks running atm...everything is on a wired connection so I can't think of anything that might be causing interference. The headset and phone are (almost) full charges as well. The other thing people mentioned was that they heard something moving around alot....the 810 does not fit too tight so it does wabble a bit (on me at least).

Might have to give the Cardo a try if I can't impove the 810's performance.

[bradbomb]

wow, I don't have any of those complaints when it comes to my HS810 with my PM-325. Everything sounds and works better than I expected. Some people might have higher expectations than me, but I mean I can hear the calls with no static 90% of the time, it has great range when the phone is sitting on a desk and I'm about 20 feet away. The answer button and voice dialing from it works too.

[Orbitz]

Yep...mine functions great also. Just as another test, I had my daughter use my headset and I jumped on a lind line to see what it sounded like...no question there is an echo...I could hear everthing I said echoed in the background...wasn't thaaaaat bad but definately a little annoying. I switched to a cordless phone (5.8ghz) and walked around while she read something over the headset...as it turned out the closer I got to her the worse the echo got...when I was right next to her the echo was REALLY bad although of course that situation would likely never occur for regular use...funny how it got so much worse. Could it be the cordless phone causing interference of some kind?

I also called her using my other sprint line (on a 7400) and heard exactly the same thing as on the land line (lol the Sprint line was easily as clear as the pots line :D )

Her voice was crystal clear although you could hear some "shuffling" noices kinda in the background...most likely because it doesn't fit here very snugly.

If this was a cheaper headset I might live withit...but for $80 I would like it to be a tad better...may very well be something in my house causing the problem tho. I will test it outside again later.

[STmaven]

so far the with jabra 250 i get lots of static... i'm going to try another headset. i just like the feel of the jabra.

[Jspired]

I tried the Jabra 250, but too much static for me. Then I went to Motorola, but my callers complained of an echo. As of yesterday I've been using the sony akono HBH-660, which has been perfect thus far.

[STmaven]

Jspired,

where did you get the sony akono HBH-660? i might have to give it a try. thanks...

[gravy]

I had the Akono HBH-660 for a week and could not get it
to stay paired for the life of me. It also hurt my ear, but that
could be just the way it sits on my ear. I was able to trade
with my stepdad over the christmas break for his Moto HS-820.
It did seem a little muffled, but it kept connected and was lighter
and more comfortable. I had to send it back because the 7-day
exchange period was up and I ordered the motorola HS-850.
Will post my thoughts when I get it. The Akono worked great
on his motorola phone though, the bastard, just a little uncomfortable
to wear. :eyebrow:

[inteller]

you can get HBH-600s for a lot chepaer than the 660. The caller ID on the 660 is a gimmick.

[STmaven]

has anyone used the Logitech MOBILE FREEDOM HEADSET?

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00069IQG0.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[hokie36]

The best?! Right here buddy, and apparently this applies not just to the Treo 650, but pretty much every bluetooth phone I've tried:

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55585

I have to agree. For the money I think the Cardo Scala 500 is the way to go. Great sound quality on both ends. Great battery life. And one of my biggest deciding factors...much much much more comfortable than the Moto HS820 that I had for a week.

[knelson]

has anyone used the Logitech MOBILE FREEDOM HEADSET?

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00069IQG0.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


Yes I have one - it works great. I originally bought it for the T608 when I was told that the Jabra 250 I was using was the cause of the BT issues. Now that Sprint changed my phone to the LG it works great. Costs less too.

[lsp9]

Does anyone use their headsets with glasses? I've wanted one but thought they would be annoying with glasses.
Thanks,
-Shane

[inteller]

the logitech looks like the belkin, just a different color.

[SpineDoc]

Havent read thru the thread so sorry if I am repeating anything, but I had a SE HBH-65 and upgraded to the 660, great upgrade in terms of battery life and sound quality. Well this week I could not resist and picked up the Bluespoon AX, holy crap this thing is TINY.

[STmaven]

Does anyone use their headsets with glasses? I've wanted one but thought they would be annoying with glasses.
Thanks,
-Shane

i think the cardo 500 has an attachment for glasses.

[STmaven]

I have to agree. For the money I think the Cardo Scala 500 is the way to go. Great sound quality on both ends. Great battery life. And one of my biggest deciding factors...much much much more comfortable than the Moto HS820 that I had for a week.

do you get a lot of static? the jabra is pissing me off. i dont care if i spend 100 buck on a headset i just dont want the popping or static in my ear. its driving me nuts.

[Orbitz]

Just an update from my earlier thread...I just exchanged my Moto 810 for a Moto 820 headset and get exactly the same problem...very distinct echo on the listeners end. Zero static...but the echo is so distracting to the person I am talking to that they complain. The search continues...

[nxtr]

The Scala 500 ROCKS!!! The only glitch is after pairing, the icon on the 325 shows a little car next to Scala 500 under the blue tooth menu. I am not sure if there are other icons like, headset, or computer. Not a big deal though, I can live with it. You can get one from http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/accessorydetail.asp?id=20228 for $55 and change shipped.

(Yes the Scala 500 has an attachment for glasses).

Nick

[viper1861]

I just got the Logitech mobile freedom bluetooth headset. I wanted something of good quality but not too complex until I really determined what I wanted. In the long run I might go with the southwing neo 507.

I went to Amazon.com and I received a special offer for an Amazon Visa card (Chase) and received a $30 discount.
That's a total cost of $10 for a nice bluetooth headset with advanced features.

I assume you can get the special offer on any item they sell.

[MrShush]

I just got the HBH 660 and I'm pretty happy with it. Sound quality is good for both the caller and recipient. Pairs effortlessly with the 325 and is very comfy. I checked reviews on other boards before buying and am pleased with my decision.

[Orbitz]

you can get HBH-600s for a lot chepaer than the 660. The caller ID on the 660 is a gimmick.

This is true...but there is more to it then the caller id. The 600's range is max 16 feet according to Sony. The 660 has a max range of 33 feet.

I just received the Scala 500 this afternoon. As I posted earlier in this thread, I had very bad luck with Moto headsets (810 and 820) and my 325 because of very bad echo that the listener could hear. The Scala is indeed MUCH better in this regard (in my use anyway) so far (6 or 7 calls on it as it just charged). I am told there is a very tiny echo on it from time to time but not anything that would interfere with the conversation. Everyone says the voice quality is pretty good although not as good as the Moto's....this is because there is a tiny bit of static on every call. I have been using the same people to make my test calls to so they are comparing them directly. The range seems to be the issue here...with the phone right up by my head the static is mostly gone....with the phone in the clip on my waste, I and the listener can both hear the static but again it is not bad enough to interfere with the conversation. More then 6 feet away from my phone tho and the static gets pretty bad.

I will say...this is very comfortable and fits me more securely then either of the moto's did. I am going to try the Sony 660 next, but I would definately pick the scala 500 over either of the Moto's so far.

[macaddiict]

Just helped my friend order a Moto BT headset and while searching came across a 20% off coupon code for Motorola.com - "Motorola.com knocks 20% off a purchase of select Bluetooth accessories via coupon code "BLUEFD". Offer ends December 31."

If you don't plan on buying today, you can sign up for Bluetooth coupons to be emailed to you here: http://dealmac.com/mydealmac/auto/?category=327

[macaddiict]

It is really disappointing to hear about all the static issues people are having. I was pretty excited about Bluetooth, but the reality seems to be a letdown. Why would I want to pay 4x as much for a wireless headset that can't compare in quality to one with a cord on it? Not to mention the hassles of charging, pairing, etc...

[MrShush]

It is really disappointing to hear about all the static issues people are having. I was pretty excited about Bluetooth, but the reality seems to be a letdown. Why would I want to pay 4x as much for a wireless headset that can't compare in quality to one with a cord on it? Not to mention the hassles of charging, pairing, etc...
A major motivation for getting a Bluetooth equipped phone was so that I could eliminate my wired headset. I have gone through a couple of them already and the sad truth is, at least for me certainly, wires break from metal fatigue. No matter how careful I am, I have eventually caused the wires near the earpiece or the headset jack to break from constantly plugging and unplugging. So I'm willing to bet, again IMO, that the cost issue is a wash. I'm using the HBH 660 which has pretty good sound quality. I'm still new with it and believe me, I will give it a thorough bashing on these boards if it doesn't live up to its hype. So let's say, at least for now, sound is only marginally poorer to the best wired set. Charging is not really a hassle. You charge your phone, right? Pairing? Once and done. What I didn't plan on that is going to save my phone from being dropped on pavements and streets is that it's going to be out of my clumsy hands, lap, dashboard, etc. more often because it can be safe and happy in my backpack and still work flawlessly. That's my .02

[Orbitz]

I agree totally...after having gone wireless now I will never go back. Just the fact that I can leave my phone on charge in my office all day and never have to touch it (almost everyone I call is programmed with a voice command now) is worth its weight in gold. I have had the same problem with wired headsets...no matter how careful I was still getting a new headset at least every six months if not more....and I had a bad habit of leaving my phone on my desk and forgetting I had the headset on....get up to walk away and drag the phone right off the desk.

I don't think BT is all the way there yet...I am on my 4th headset and while I eliminated the echo problems with this one (Cardo Scala 500) static is definately an issue. The Moto's were crystal clear from even 20ft away...the Cardo still get static with the phone in my belt worn on the same side as my headset. Tolerating the static is still better then being wired to the phone so far....to the poster above who was dissapointed to hear about some of this issues...keep in mind a lot of us post more about problems since (in my case at least) we want to get the best info out there about what is working for everyone. I would recommend anyone who spends a lot of time on the phone give the BT a try if you like headsets....for me it has made my cell phone 100% more enjoyable / useful to use even tho I rate the sound quality from the headset at no more then a 7 out of 10.

Besides I like looking like Captain Kirk when I am out and about :D

[Myles3]

I use the Cardo 500. It's great. A little trouble using voice dial initiated from the headset--however, I've only be using it for two hours.

I can tell you this...I called five of my closest friends who all remarked "Sounds great. Didn't know you were on an earpiece. This bluetooth thing has really worked out for you."

[viper1861]

Just helped my friend order a Moto BT headset and while searching came across a 20% off coupon code for Motorola.com - "Motorola.com knocks 20% off a purchase of select Bluetooth accessories via coupon code "BLUEFD". Offer ends December 31."

If you don't plan on buying today, you can sign up for Bluetooth coupons to be emailed to you here: http://dealmac.com/mydealmac/auto/?category=327


Saw those $20 rebates on amazon also. I think they are good until the end of Jan 05. They are doing this because the the 850 model is coming out in mass distribution Feb. 05.

I notice slight echoes also when speeking to a friend that uses the 820 model. It doesn't seem to matter what phone or headset I'm using either.

[FloorMatt]

Just ordered the Cardo 500...so, I await my experience with it!

Apparently, it seems everyone has different experiences with the same headset.

[Myles3]

...I certify that the Cardo 500 will work at 30 feet (line-of-sight). About 15 feet around corners (this probably depends on lots of variables, construction material, location of phone, etc...)

+Absolutely no problems with phone in pocket, sitting on the passengers seat of the car, or even on the floor after the phone slid under the drivers seat. -+No discomfort while wearing.
+No reports of echo

-Still haven't figured out how to voice dial by pushing "CTRL" button?
-The Cardo 500 should come with an extra plastic ear loop. Not sure how long this will last.

*Use of bluetooth does decrease talk-time by maybe 30 mins.

[qwalls]

Does anyone use their headsets with glasses? I've wanted one but thought they would be annoying with glasses.
Thanks,
-Shane

The Cardo has an eyeglass clip that works pretty well.

[Orbitz]

To eliminate the echo on the Moto HS810 (maybe the 820 as well) all you have to do is turn the volume down one or two levels from the highest setting, I was talking to my buddy one day and he said that he heard an echo on his end...all I did was turn the volume down two notches on the headset and it disappeared. Also note, that my 325 phone volume always sits on medium...the problem is not with the headset, but more with the gain levels on both the phone and the headset. You have to equalize them a bit. Mine works like a charm and have had no complaints whatsoever since I discovered it...try it out, it may help you.


Burton, you are a genious :) Maybe I missed it in all the previous posts I have read on this and other boards re headsets...but this WORKED! As luck would have it, I didn't get out to return the pile of headsets I have sitting here yet....I tested them all again only this time I lowered the volume on the 325 to medium and dropped the volume on the headsets a couple notches as you advised. This totally elimanted the echo on every one of them (although admittedly the Cardo Scala 500 did have an echo to begin with)...I can't thank you enough. My wife was just about ready to kill me with all the test calls to her with all these dam headsets...but after letting her try them with no echo she asked me to order one for her on Monday...dam you :)

I decided to keep the Moto 820 btw...I also have the Moto 810, Cardo 500 Scala and Sony 660....over all after 2 hours and a lot of calls my wife and I both agreed (you have noooo idea how rare an occurance this is lol) that the 820 had the bast sound quality and comfort. The 810 is virtually the same sound quality but on my hear it is a little "floppy" so the 820 feels just a little more secure. In my calls, the sound quality from the 810 / 820 had a little more "trebble" sound then either the Cardo or the Sony which made it a little easier to understand people (actually very close to the sound from the headset on the 325 which I really like). Since this is really a matter of personal preference I am sure any of these would be great choices for someone depending on their tastes. The Sony is a great heaset, just a little bigger then the 820 which is why I leaned towards the 820. The Cardo did have noticeably more static for me...the Moto's and Sony had almost zero static unless I as at 20+ feet.

I can't recommend enough how convenient the BT headset is...only issue for me so far is that I am no opting to make calls on my cell phone rather then my desk line which is cranking my minutes up...since the Moto's can hold 8 different active profiles, I am now looking for a solution to connect this baby to my desk phone as well.

Thanks again!

[STmaven]

yeah the echo problem is from the headset's volume being too high. i had the same issue with my jabra and it was too loud so i turned it to the lowest setting. bingo it worked just fine and my ear drums thank me for it.

one issue that is also driving me nuts is the pairing. i would say after 3 or so hours, i have to reboot the phone to get my phone to recongnize my headset.

[Orbitz]

I haven't had that problem yet...in fact today when testing all the headsets I paired all 4 of them with the 325 and it would connect with whatever one I hit the action button on...all on the fly. I was pretty surprised actually.

I still have the Jabra 250 coming in the mail with the base station which allows a desk phone to hook to it also....I hope the Jabra 250 works as well as the Moto becase this product allows you do use one BT headset for both cell and wired calls which is what I am ultimatley looking for.

[Orbitz]

Bye the way...here is the link for the Jabra from GNNetcom (which is the parent company of Jabra) in case anyone else is interested (I think I posted this earlier in the thread but am too lazy to go back and look :) ).

I have talked to the GNNetcom corporate offices and they assure me that it will work very well with the 325...so I am looking forward to testing it. It won't work with cordless phone, however, the base unit has to be connected to a regurlar landline phone although it can be multiline.

http://www.gnnetcom.com/US/EN/MainMenu/Products/Wireless+Solutions/GN+6210.htm

[ToeKnail]

I ordered the Sony HBH-660 from Dan's cellular on ebay... it showed up yesterday. I've got a question for anyone else who has ordered this through Dan's cellular... have you used the generic car charger that came with the headset to charge it up? I would be interested in using this, as I will probably keep my headset in the car most of the time, but I don't want to fry my headset.

Total cost was about $93. They inflate the shipping charge significantly, and add a required insurance charge (I doubt they actually insure the package), but it still works out to be the cheapest you can get it. I guess by inflating the shipping, they can get away with paying ebay less for the service, as the supposed price for the product alone is less.

Anyway, based on my very limited use so far, I really like the HBH-660. Pairing was super easy. I really like the way the headset fits on my ear. When I first put it on, it doesn't feel right, only because it doesn't even feel like it's on. But the part that goes over my ear really hangs on well, and I doubt it will ever fall off by accident.

The sound from my end is great (so far). I spoke to my wife briefly this morning on my way to work... she said it sounded clear and loud from her end, although she did say she heard some sort of a slight background noise. She was on her 8200, and did not have a very good connection. Also, I have not adjusted the volume on either the phone or the headset yet. My call to my sister last night sounded great too... she had no complaints.

Voice dialing is very easy with the HBH-660. I plan to add several more voice dial numbers to the phone, because this seems to be the easiest way to call people. Receiving a call is easy too... you hear a nice quiet ring in your ear, press the button, and talk.

If anyone has used the free car charger from Dan's Cellular, I'd like to hear it. Thanks!

By the way, Dan's cellular also throws in some crap that I threw straight into the trash... some magnet sticker that claims to increase reception, and another sticker thing that claims to reduce radiation from the phone. Both are gimmicks, reports say they simply do not work (at best), and I would prefer it if Dan's cellular didn't throuw these things in at all. To me, it just seems cheesy to add this garbage in.

[taufiqhabib]

Ive been using the Moto 820 and the loose fit and frequent disconnects were driving me nuts. Also I sometimes like the higher volume and have to contend with echo.
I now recieved the bluetrek G2 for $30 and like it better as far as the fit, echo, staying connected, but the Moto def has better sound quality, tho its more expensive
Undecided which to keep...

[Orbitz]

The Moto 810 has the same sound quality (I have both) as the 820 and fits much better on me.

[STmaven]

ok i have the logitech freedom headset. i dont like the way it sits on the ear. you have to turn up the volume in order to hear the other person which in turn can cause the echo. as for static so far its been ok.

[FloorMatt]

UPS says that my Cardo Scala 500 will be here on Monday. I only hope that I have a good experience with it! *crosses fingers*

[smittythepig]

UPS says that my Cardo Scala 500 will be here on Monday. I only hope that I have a good experience with it! *crosses fingers*
the cardo is pretty good. not great, though. about the same as the others. some echo in certain situations, constant faint static for the person you are calling. muffled audio. but the 3 BT headsets i have tried all had these issues to one degree or another. BT just isn't all that great at the moment for audio. for the price, though, that the cardo is going for, it might be the best value. $80 - $120 for the others is just ****ing stupid.

[EddieT]

Can't find any directions for using Voice Dialing with the 820. Can't make it work. Ideas?

[Orbitz]

Can't find any directions for using Voice Dialing with the 820. Can't make it work. Ideas?


Menu - Bluetooth- Motorola HS820 - Key Prompt - Voice Dials (Select) should do it :)

[cellfoneguy]

Can you hear the actual ringtone in the ear peice of any of these bluetooth headsets. That would be very good feature with personalized ringtones because you would never have to look at your phone to see who is calling you.

[Aleko]

Can you hear the actual ringtone in the ear peice of any of these bluetooth headsets. That would be very good feature with personalized ringtones because you would never have to look at your phone to see who is calling you.
I can hear some beeping on my Scala 500, but I don't think it's an actual ringtone. It's not very loud either.

[Orbitz]

Unfortunately, you can't hear ring tones in the headpieces (at least not on the Moto 810, 820 or Cardo 500). All you hear is a beep for incoming calls, however, your phone is ringing at the same time so any custom ring tones you have set up can easily be heard that way.

[FloorMatt]

UPS: Out for Delivery Yay!

[ToeKnail]

Unfortunately, you can't hear ring tones in the headpieces (at least not on the Moto 810, 820 or Cardo 500). All you hear is a beep for incoming calls, however, your phone is ringing at the same time so any custom ring tones you have set up can easily be heard that way.

There is a ringtone in the Sony HBH660 headset. Not too quiet, not too loud. I like that feature.

[smittythepig]

UPS: Out for Delivery Yay!
let me (us) know how it works for you. mine is pretty good. again, not great but not any worse than any of the others i have tried. i will say that the belkin i used seemed to have no range whatsoever. and the motorola 820 had probably the best sound quality according to the people i spoke with (with the exception of the echo - which only seemed to occur occasionally). the incoming sound quality on the moto was about the same as the scala - a bit muffled and bassy - though the scala seems a little worse. the battery life on the scala seems great, though i think they all must be very good. i got it about a week ago and haven't had to charge it. but i turn it off when not using it and i don't use it that often. and the scala comes with a ton of nice little accessories - a mini-cd with the full user's manual, a holster that has both a belt clip attached as well as holes for a neck strap that is also included. and it comes with both an earloop attachment as well as an eyeglasses attachment that you can use in place of the earloop. as far as function, the scala has performed flawlessly. no disconnects. it always does what i want it to do. the buttons work perfectly. so for less than $45 before shipping (compared to $80 or $100) the scala is a pretty damn good value relatively speaking. not too much more than a good wired headset.

[cellfoneguy]

There is a ringtone in the Sony HBH660 headset. Not too quiet, not too loud. I like that feature.

DO you hear the actual ring tone of the phone or a beep?

[Hoon]

DO you hear the actual ring tone of the phone or a beep?

I have the same headset... one hears the SE ringtone, which is a pleasant little trill. No facility for playing the phone's custom ringtones.

[FloorMatt]

Ok, it's here! Now, to open the box! :hee:

[EddieT]

Menu - Bluetooth- Motorola HS820 - Key Prompt - Voice Dials (Select) should do it :)

Thank you very much. There no directions, that I can find, giving that information. Works great....thanks again.

[Wraith]

I found that the BlueVoice Headset I got works very well. I think it is the most comfortable headset I've ever worn - I got it for $50 (half price) at the sprint store with the purchase of my handset. The salesperson was able to match the online price with a printout of the sprintpcs online price too, so 100 for both plus sales tax on the 100. I'm pretty happy with this.

I also figured out how to get the headset to work with the audio on my pocket pc, which was a bit interesting. If the OBEX worked, and the BT dialing worked with my PPC, that would really be nice, but neither one is that big of a deal.

I just wish I could get my pictures to work right...

[skrubol]

Anyone who previously had the T608 notice their headset gets much better battery life with the 325? I have an SE HBH-35 and I only used to get about 2 days standby/2 hrs talk time instead of the 5 and 5 it's supposed to have. I thought it was defective, and just hadn't gotten around to trying to get it replaced, but with the 325 it goes many days on standby (havn't tried measuring how long yet) and I've gotten over 2 hrs talk time even after it had been on standby for a day or 2.

[FloorMatt]

I tried out the Cardo Scala 500, and so far...it WORKED GREAT! I was standing 10 feet from the phone, no static on my end; in fact, there was no static according to the person I called! (and they were on a Sprint PCS phone!) Next step, try calling some other phones (landlines and such) ! I was able to answer and hangup my calls, and next I shall try the voice dialing (just to see).

[gravy]

Finally got my motorola HS-850 and I must say I'm impressed.
Had a little trouble on the initial pairing but once I got them
talking there was no stopping. I don't have any of the problems
I had with the sony HBH-660. Haven't had to restart the phone
once since I got it paired. Sounds real clear with no noticable echo
and a lot more comfortable to wear, but I have small ears.
Not saying its the best for everyone cause some don't have
any problems with the sony, but it just didn't work with my phone.
Now I'm a happy camper.

[mazaite]

I have been fighting with the BlueVoice since I bought it on the first. Nothing but useless with a side of $100 I'll never see again. It pairs fine and connects fine, and even beeps that I don't have voice dial setup if I hit the Answer/end button. Then the phone rings and it quickly springs into action by disconnecting and making me get my phone out of my pocket and answer it normaly (normaly except there's a big earplug thing between the phone and my ear) while the headset beeps at me because it's trying to reconnect. And all the while I'm trying to drive. I don't reccomend the BodyGlove BlueVoice.

[gravy]

If you can I would swap with someone else for a day.
I did and found that the motorolas worked best with my phone.
Some retailers will let you exchange it for another instead of
paying a restocking fee, mine did. Anyway there's always ebay.

[wjohn13]

Has anyone ever heard of or tried the Gennum ZEN??? http://www.gennum.com/zen/index.html Or how about the new Jabra BT800.. I just got my Moto 810 and have been having echo porblems. At leasat that is what the people on the other end say.. I am wondering about either of these, and if they are any better...

[mazaite]

If you can I would swap with someone else for a day.
I did and found that the motorolas worked best with my phone.
Some retailers will let you exchange it for another instead of
paying a restocking fee, mine did. Anyway there's always ebay.

Actualy I needed to RTFM. I've been studying too much. Seems to work fine now that I changed Settings>Setup/others>Auto Answer and changed it to Car-kit/Headset. I am an idiot.
And I listened to it and had a frend listened to it and it sounds fine. It's not "Maxell Quality" But they can hear me fine. So it works as it should.
Thanks.
--
Mike

[sid311]

Has anyone ever heard of or tried the Gennum ZEN??? http://www.gennum.com/zen/index.html Or how about the new Jabra BT800.. I just got my Moto 810 and have been having echo porblems. At leasat that is what the people on the other end say.. I am wondering about either of these, and if they are any better...

I hear ya on the echo issues, I've also got a motorola 810 and everyone tells me that they're echoing. I will be taking it back and purchasing the Jabra BT800 when it comes out later this month. I can't wait for that thing it sounds like it's going to be pretty slick!

[FloorMatt]

Actualy I needed to RTFM. I've been studying too much. Seems to work fine now that I changed Settings>Setup/others>Auto Answer and changed it to Car-kit/Headset. I am an idiot.
--
Mike

Hmm, I forgot where I had posted about that :hee:

You may also wish to change (under that same section) Call Setup, switch the "End Call" to END Only. That way, if you want to dial manually (even though you can with the slide up), or go through your phone book to dial......or whatever reason!

edit: I feel like an idiot. I answered you in that other thread!

[Trident]

Just got it in the mail today and I've been wearing it (on & off) for almost 4 hours. Very comfortable.
This is probably one of the most helpful forums for any product I've ever been on a forum for. All the suggestions and directions have kept me from throwing this phone into the wall a few times.
It's taken a little while, but the pairing, settings and sound quality all seem good now. I'll see how it goes after being idle for a while (it seems a few of you have to "reboot" the phone if not used).
And just for my $0.02- I got this headset from eBay for just less than $50 including shipping. And I've got a car charger on the way for about $10.
Gotta run.

[mazaite]

Hmm, I forgot where I had posted about that :hee:

You may also wish to change (under that same section) Call Setup, switch the "End Call" to END Only. That way, if you want to dial manually (even though you can with the slide up), or go through your phone book to dial......or whatever reason!

edit: I feel like an idiot. I answered you in that other thread!

Now it's not working again. I think it hates me. It must have heard me yelling when I found out I would get a whole $0.00 for my rebate on the phone.
But I got that sorted out.

So anyone have any Idea why either my Phone or my BlueVoivce hates me?

[88jr]

My BT820 magically stopped working the week I got it. It was totally dead...wouldn't charge or anything. I took it back to Best Buy and they exchanged it.


Now it's not working again. I think it hates me. It must have heard me yelling when I found out I would get a whole $0.00 for my rebate on the phone.
But I got that sorted out.

So anyone have any Idea why either my Phone or my BlueVoivce hates me?

[mazaite]

My BT820 magically stopped working the week I got it. It was totally dead...wouldn't charge or anything. I took it back to Best Buy and they exchanged it.

Well the BlueVoice still operates and that's the frustrating part. It connects normaly but disconnects the Bluetooth whenever the phone rings or I dial out and I have to re-connect it after answering the phone by traditional means.
--
Mike Zaite

[FloorMatt]

Well the BlueVoice still operates and that's the frustrating part. It connects normaly but disconnects the Bluetooth whenever the phone rings or I dial out and I have to re-connect it after answering the phone by traditional means.
--
Mike Zaite

Well, that's a crazy headset...have you been able to try it on another phone model? I don't think it's the 325 causing the trouble.

Wonder how much you could get on eBay for it?

[Genesyxx1]

I'm looking to get the i.tech PowBOX for my 325 (when I can find a decent price for it). Any reviews on this?

[Orphan Rescuer]

Got a 325 10 days ago. Have tried out six headsets so far. Only one will automatically switch to the headset on an outgoing call dialed from the phone's keypad (the Motorola HS810, $49 at Cingular stores). The others require either touching the call button (Tekkeon and Moto HS820), or transferring the audio only from the phone (Cardo 500 and Logitech Freedom). (All of them can originate a voice dial call by touching the call button).

The tech guy at Cardo suggested deleting all the headset profiles, powering down, removing the battery, then re-pairing. I did it twice, no luck. When he offered me a replacement, we decided it would be easier to test another 325 at the Sprint store since I was going to be nearby one later that day anyway, plus that functioned seemed to work on the HS801 unit. I paired the Cardo and Tekkeon with the phone at the store and I had the same experience - necessary to manually switch the audio to the headset either by the call button or by the key pad.

So, bluetooth headset users out there, have you found a way to get the outgoing calls that are dialed from the phone keypad to automatically switch over to the headset?

I will post a comparison report in the next few days.

[FloorMatt]

Got a 325 10 days ago. Have tried out six headsets so far. Only one will automatically switch to the headset on an outgoing call dialed from the phone's keypad (the Motorola HS810, $49 at Cingular stores). The others require either touching the call button (Tekkeon and Moto HS820), or transferring the audio only from the phone (Cardo 500 and Logitech Freedom). (All of them can originate a voice dial call by touching the call button).

The tech guy at Cardo suggested deleting all the headset profiles, powering down, removing the battery, then re-pairing. I did it twice, no luck. When he offered me a replacement, we decided it would be easier to test another 325 at the Sprint store since I was going to be nearby one later that day anyway, plus that functioned seemed to work on the HS801 unit. I paired the Cardo and Tekkeon with the phone at the store and I had the same experience - necessary to manually switch the audio to the headset either by the call button or by the key pad.

So, bluetooth headset users out there, have you found a way to get the outgoing calls that are dialed from the phone keypad to automatically switch over to the headset?

I will post a comparison report in the next few days.

On the Cardo, you can press the headset's button to switch over when dialing on the keypad; BUT, you have to wait until the call counter start (else it will hangup the call).

[Orphan Rescuer]

On the Cardo, you can press the headset's button to switch over when dialing on the keypad; BUT, you have to wait until the call counter start (else it will hangup the call).

I just tried it. Pressing the headset button at ANY TIME during a call initiated from the handset caused the call to drop. I tried it twice.

Are you using an LG-325 to perform the test?

How old is your phone. I just bought my 12 days ago at the local Radio Shack store. I updated the software to v18 yesterday.

Thanks for your interest.

[FloorMatt]

I just tried it. Pressing the headset button at ANY TIME during a call initiated from the handset caused the call to drop. I tried it twice.

Are you using an LG-325 to perform the test?

How old is your phone. I just bought my 12 days ago at the local Radio Shack store. I updated the software to v18 yesterday.

Thanks for your interest.

Yes

Aprox. 6 months old w/ V18

You had to of had the Cardo connected (via it's menu, on the phone). Now, if you go in and Disconnect the headset (on the phone itself), you can just press the headset's button to reconnect (it will transfer the audio also, if in a call).

For instance, right now.......I have Bluetooth enabled on the PM-325, but it's not connected to the headset (and the headset is off).

I had manually disconnected the headset from the phone (going into the headsets menu on the phone) and turned off the headset.

If I wanted, I could just turn the headset on and press its button to reconnect. (it would activate the voice dial.....or if in a call, transfer the audio)

Another thing, you could just leave the headset on.......move the headset out of the phone's range, and they would disconnect; BUT, when you go back in range, you can press the headset's button to reconnect.

The only time that the headset seems to not connect itself is if you just turn the BT on.....and you haven't connected anything yet.........and you press the headset button. Or, if you power the headset off........then turn it back on and try to connect.

(Sorry if I'm being confusing :lol: )

[Orphan Rescuer]

Yes

Aprox. 6 months old w/ V18

You had to of had the Cardo connected (via it's menu, on the phone). Now, if you go in and Disconnect the headset (on the phone itself), you can just press the headset's button to reconnect (it will transfer the audio also, if in a call).

For instance, right now.......I have Bluetooth enabled on the PM-325, but it's not connected to the headset (and the headset is off).

I had manually disconnected the headset from the phone (going into the headsets menu on the phone) and turned off the headset.

If I wanted, I could just turn the headset on and press its button to reconnect. (it would activate the voice dial.....or if in a call, transfer the audio)

Another thing, you could just leave the headset on.......move the headset out of the phone's range, and they would disconnect; BUT, when you go back in range, you can press the headset's button to reconnect.

The only time that the headset seems to not connect itself is if you just turn the BT on.....and you haven't connected anything yet.........and you press the headset button. Or, if you power the headset off........then turn it back on and try to connect.

(Sorry if I'm being confusing :lol: )

Thanks for your efforts to help me. I tried everything you suggested here. I found that the headset "connects" with the phone without problems; I haven't had problems with that and that is not the focus of my questions. The issue I am seeking input on is: how to get the phone to transfer audio to the Cardo after a call is made (the only way I have found is to use the phone's keypad to select "Audio Transfer", which requires 4 keystrokes to select, after the call connects. This requires some fast button work to catch a call at the beginning.). I can't even get the audio to transfer to the headset by pressing the headset button, that only hangs up the call. The button transfer of calls is supported on a couple other headsets I am testing.

By the way, how old is your Cardo? The one I received from eCost this week has a charging port, NOT a charging cradle. I wonder if the change away from the charging cradle introduced some new problems?

It may end up that the LG325 simply does not support the auto-transfer function I am asking about. That would be disappointing...

Thanks!

[FloorMatt]

Thanks for your efforts to help me. I tried everything you suggested here. I found that the headset "connects" with the phone without problems; I haven't had problems with that and that is not the focus of my questions. The issue I am seeking input on is: how to get the phone to transfer audio to the Cardo after a call is made (the only way I have found is to use the phone's keypad to select "Audio Transfer", which requires 4 keystrokes to select, after the call connects. This requires some fast button work to catch a call at the beginning.). I can't even get the audio to transfer to the headset by pressing the headset button, that only hangs up the call. The button transfer of calls is supported on a couple other headsets I am testing.

By the way, how old is your Cardo? The one I received from eCost this week has a charging port, NOT a charging cradle. I wonder if the change away from the charging cradle introduced some new problems?

It may end up that the LG325 simply does not support the auto-transfer function I am asking about. That would be disappointing...

Thanks!

Someone else had gotten a Scal more recently......and it was a charging port type; I had gotten mine earlier than that, and it's a cradle type. That could possibly be the issue. I can just press the headset's button and audio will transfer (as long as it's either connected already.....or was connected).

[winterparklaw]

After being recomended to it by my I.T. guy, I just g0t the sony hbh 660 after taking back a motorola. it is very good and would recommend it to anyone

[rrpatel]

Do any of you have any comments on how the Motorola HS850 (similar in style to the HS810) works with the LG PM325? I have a 325 and am thinking about buying a HS850. I have heard a complaint about the voice dial feature not working with this headset, is that truly a problem or just the user not knowing how to set it up? Also, I am very concerned with the sound quality and wind resistance because I will be using it a lot in the car and while biking. Any information on the compatability with the PM 325 would be greatly appreciated (pairing, noise, echo, static, design, comfort, etc). Thank you!!

[Storino03]

Well the BlueVoice still operates and that's the frustrating part. It connects normaly but disconnects the Bluetooth whenever the phone rings or I dial out and I have to re-connect it after answering the phone by traditional means.
--
Mike Zaite

I have the same problem. I like the BodyGlove headset because it's smaller and doesn't really show as much as the other ones I've seen pictures of. I think it's growing on me, then again I haven't physically tried any other bt headset yet.

[Orphan Rescuer]

Do any of you have any comments on how the Motorola HS850 (similar in style to the HS810) works with the LG PM325? I have a 325 and am thinking about buying a HS850. I have heard a complaint about the voice dial feature not working with this headset, is that truly a problem or just the user not knowing how to set it up? Also, I am very concerned with the sound quality and wind resistance because I will be using it a lot in the car and while biking. Any information on the compatability with the PM 325 would be greatly appreciated (pairing, noise, echo, static, design, comfort, etc). Thank you!!
I tried a Moto 850 for a month and compared it to more than ten other BT headsets. The 850 works fine with voice dial, you have to set up that feature in the phone, takes 5 seconds. You ask about sound quality. The 850 seemed to have more static than the 820. The quality of the sound wasn't as smooth and solid as the Moto 820, though it was close and could be acceptable to some. It bothered me enough that I disqualified it because of that, I expected more from Moto's leading headset. The flip boom is a nice feature and saves power, plus instantly turns on the headset. If you are considering using the 850 while biking, I suggest you consider a different design. The 850 hangs fairly comfortably on the ear, but is not as secure as a behind-the-ear model like the Plantronics M2500. I have been using an M2500 and can jump on my mini-trampoline and talk at the same time and the headset has no flopping or giggling. The 850 would not stay on securely. Another issue about the 850 to consider if you are thinking about using it in the wind or wearing it during activities is the design of the speaker. It simply rests against the ear. If there is any outside noise from a car or air conditioner, I found myself pressing the headset against my ear to hear sufficiently. Another thing about the sound - the tone is acceptable in a quiet room, but it doesn't cut through when there is background noise, it becomes very difficult to hear when driving at highway speeds. Another thing about the 850 - the ear loop is fairly thin in width (the thickness between the ear and the head) and I found it got uncomfortable faster than some of the other models. Pairing is a snap, echo was controllable by adjusting the volume on the headset and the phone, I didn't test it for wind noise.
I am preparing a comprehensive comparison of the headsets I tested and will post it here.

[SprintySprint]

From the last 7 pages of posts, So far, I have narrowed down the list to these entries:

Sony HBH-300
sony Akono HBH-660
Moto HS820
SE 600
Cardo Scala 500
Motorola 98405 bluetooth headset
Logitech MOBILE FREEDOM HEADSET

Any other opinions on these headsets??

Can these headsets be used for HOME PHONES TOO? (w/o additional hardware)

Can these headsets be used for INSTANT MESSAGING TOO? (w/o additional hardware)

Thank You all once again for your valuable opinions...

[Orphan Rescuer]

From the last 7 pages of posts, So far, I have narrowed down the list to these entries:

Sony HBH-300
sony Akono HBH-660
Moto HS820
SE 600
Cardo Scala 500
Motorola 98405 bluetooth headset
Logitech MOBILE FREEDOM HEADSET

Any other opinions on these headsets??

Can these headsets be used for HOME PHONES TOO? (w/o additional hardware)

Can these headsets be used for INSTANT MESSAGING TOO? (w/o additional hardware)

Thank You all once again for your valuable opinions...
HBH-300 - I think this is the best sounding one in your list. The fit is reasonable, though not near as comfortable as the 820 (which doesn't have as good a sound quality where there is background noise because of the speaker design). But remember, what is the other unique characteristic of the human body used as an identifier besides fingerprints - yep, the ear! That's what makes these headsets such a turkey shoot. I tried a Sony 660 at the store and the darned thing wouldn't fit into my ear. There is no flexibility in the ear loop and causes the speaker to ride high in the top part of my ear above the ear canal - useless. The Scala 500 speaker doesn't project well in a noisy room, it just doesn't cut through and becomes very annoying trying to hear. I know many folks on this board speak highly of it, but it just didn't sound good, plus it was the only headset that wouldn't transfer the audio via the headset button. The Logitech Freedom has a great speaker but the size is large, sits away from the ear, and the earloop is truly painful because there is a spring in it that clamps the headset to the tender top part of your (my!) ear. Brutally painful and inexplainably poor design from Logitech.

Of the ones on your list, the HBH300 would be the most satisfying if you are interested in good sound and a reasonable fit. One that isn't on your list worth considering if the Plantronics M2500. The fit is great and the sound is tops because the speaker sits just into the ear, not enough to be a real earplug like the Jabra 250, but enough to generate a great sound quality even in a noisy environment.

If you order a headset from Headset.com, they have a liberal return policy and a guaranteed low price.

You can't use a Bluetooth headset on a regular home phone without an adapter. I looked into phones that supported bluetooth and there are precious few of them out there, I mean like maybe two.

[Stud]

From the last 7 pages of posts, So far, I have narrowed down the list to these entries:

Sony HBH-300
sony Akono HBH-660
Moto HS820
SE 600
Cardo Scala 500
Motorola 98405 bluetooth headset
Logitech MOBILE FREEDOM HEADSET

Any other opinions on these headsets??

Can these headsets be used for HOME PHONES TOO? (w/o additional hardware)

Can these headsets be used for INSTANT MESSAGING TOO? (w/o additional hardware)

Thank You all once again for your valuable opinions...

I bought a PM325 and an HS820 a couple days ago. The HS820 feels great and looks awesome. If I am near the phone it sounds awesome, but on ocassion, will get some static if I start to get too far. The headset is advertised for over 35 feet I believe, but at around 15 feet it starts to break up. Though, I think it's more the phone than the headset. Then again, this happens in my house with walls. I haven't tried it outdoors yet, that'll be tomorrows test. :clap:

But for $80, I think it's an awesome headset.

[rrpatel]

HBH-300 - I think this is the best sounding one in your list. The fit is reasonable, though not near as comfortable as the 820 (which doesn't have as good a sound quality where there is background noise because of the speaker design). But remember, what is the other unique characteristic of the human body used as an identifier besides fingerprints - yep, the ear! That's what makes these headsets such a turkey shoot. I tried a Sony 660 at the store and the darned thing wouldn't fit into my ear. There is no flexibility in the ear loop and causes the speaker to ride high in the top part of my ear above the ear canal - useless. The Scala 500 speaker doesn't project well in a noisy room, it just doesn't cut through and becomes very annoying trying to hear. I know many folks on this board speak highly of it, but it just didn't sound good, plus it was the only headset that wouldn't transfer the audio via the headset button. The Logitech Freedom has a great speaker but the size is large, sits away from the ear, and the earloop is truly painful because there is a spring in it that clamps the headset to the tender top part of your (my!) ear. Brutally painful and inexplainably poor design from Logitech.

Of the ones on your list, the HBH300 would be the most satisfying if you are interested in good sound and a reasonable fit. One that isn't on your list worth considering if the Plantronics M2500. The fit is great and the sound is tops because the speaker sits just into the ear, not enough to be a real earplug like the Jabra 250, but enough to generate a great sound quality even in a noisy environment.

If you order a headset from Headset.com, they have a liberal return policy and a guaranteed low price.

You can't use a Bluetooth headset on a regular home phone without an adapter. I looked into phones that supported bluetooth and there are precious few of them out there, I mean like maybe two.

Thanks Oprhan Rescuer for a quick, informative reply..however, i still have some questions before i spend money on buying these headsets (i am buying two, one for me and one for my cousin...both lg pm325)...for my situation (want good quality and wind/noise cancellation is important, will be riding bike on campus (not offroad)) which headset do u recommend out of all of them? I was originally going for the Moto HS850 but u have shown me some of its weaknesses...however, ive heard that the HBH-300 has poor wind cancellation (although some sites praised its wind cancellation) and that it has an annoying beeping sound when connecting/disconnecting calls...also heard complaints about dropped calls during call waiting and no voice dial (a feature i would like)..knowing that some users dont know how to use the headset and still post negative comments, i was asking if an experienced user such as urself could help me out...thanks again for ur help and suggestions...im looking for the best headset..i heard jabra has great fit but bad quality and bad wind reduction...please advise on which i should get...thanks!! (anyone feel free to help if you could, not just Orphan Rescuer) thanks again!

[SprintySprint]

HBH-300 - I think this is the best sounding one in your list. The fit is reasonable, though not near as comfortable as the 820 (which doesn't have as good a sound quality where there is background noise because of the speaker design). But remember, what is the other unique characteristic of the human body used as an identifier besides fingerprints - yep, the ear! That's what makes these headsets such a turkey shoot. I tried a Sony 660 at the store and the darned thing wouldn't fit into my ear. There is no flexibility in the ear loop and causes the speaker to ride high in the top part of my ear above the ear canal - useless. The Scala 500 speaker doesn't project well in a noisy room, it just doesn't cut through and becomes very annoying trying to hear. I know many folks on this board speak highly of it, but it just didn't sound good, plus it was the only headset that wouldn't transfer the audio via the headset button. The Logitech Freedom has a great speaker but the size is large, sits away from the ear, and the earloop is truly painful because there is a spring in it that clamps the headset to the tender top part of your (my!) ear. Brutally painful and inexplainably poor design from Logitech.

Of the ones on your list, the HBH300 would be the most satisfying if you are interested in good sound and a reasonable fit. One that isn't on your list worth considering if the Plantronics M2500. The fit is great and the sound is tops because the speaker sits just into the ear, not enough to be a real earplug like the Jabra 250, but enough to generate a great sound quality even in a noisy environment.

If you order a headset from Headset.com, they have a liberal return policy and a guaranteed low price.

You can't use a Bluetooth headset on a regular home phone without an adapter. I looked into phones that supported bluetooth and there are precious few of them out there, I mean like maybe two.
Thank you so much for your detailed and informative post. This was exactly what I was looking for :clap:
So, Now I narrowed donw the choices to (In order of ranking)

Plantronics M2500
HBH 300
Jabra 250

I was not clear which one you recommended in particular. Could you please take a minute to recommend one of these models ??
Thank You.

[SprintySprint]

I also wanted to add that the Plantronics M2500 seems to be the lowest priced one !!

[rrpatel]

I tried a Moto 850 for a month and compared it to more than ten other BT headsets. The 850 works fine with voice dial, you have to set up that feature in the phone, takes 5 seconds. You ask about sound quality. The 850 seemed to have more static than the 820. The quality of the sound wasn't as smooth and solid as the Moto 820, though it was close and could be acceptable to some. It bothered me enough that I disqualified it because of that, I expected more from Moto's leading headset. The flip boom is a nice feature and saves power, plus instantly turns on the headset. If you are considering using the 850 while biking, I suggest you consider a different design. The 850 hangs fairly comfortably on the ear, but is not as secure as a behind-the-ear model like the Plantronics M2500. I have been using an M2500 and can jump on my mini-trampoline and talk at the same time and the headset has no flopping or giggling. The 850 would not stay on securely. Another issue about the 850 to consider if you are thinking about using it in the wind or wearing it during activities is the design of the speaker. It simply rests against the ear. If there is any outside noise from a car or air conditioner, I found myself pressing the headset against my ear to hear sufficiently. Another thing about the sound - the tone is acceptable in a quiet room, but it doesn't cut through when there is background noise, it becomes very difficult to hear when driving at highway speeds. Another thing about the 850 - the ear loop is fairly thin in width (the thickness between the ear and the head) and I found it got uncomfortable faster than some of the other models. Pairing is a snap, echo was controllable by adjusting the volume on the headset and the phone, I didn't test it for wind noise.
I am preparing a comprehensive comparison of the headsets I tested and will post it here.

oops...i meant to quote this post of urs orphan rescuer...see my last post, thanks

[sj612]

I've tried four different BT headsets and all have had the same problem with the PM325 to different degrees: people frequently say they hear an echo of their voice when talking to me. The most common suggestion is to turn my headset volume down (the rationale, I guess, is that the mouthpiece is picking up the sound from the earpiece) but that hasn't helped.

Currently I'm using the Motorola HS810 which seems to be no better or worse than the Jabra, Body Glove or Cardo Scala. Anyone with a similar experience?

I also got Sprint to replace the phone--no help there either. A couple of Sprint store employees have intimated that this phone has poor BT performance.

Thanks.

[mmakris]

I've got the Moto HS820 paired with the 325, so far I love it!
Hi, I have the same setup as you (HS820 w/pm325) and I can't get it to discover the headset. Do you have any tips that may solve my little dilemma?

Cheers,
Matt

[FloorMatt]

Hi, I have the same setup as you (HS820 w/pm325) and I can't get it to discover the headset. Do you have any tips that may solve my little dilemma?

Cheers,
Matt

Did you put the headset into "pairing mode" ? If you have no idea what I'm talking about....then, there's the first problem.

[mmakris]

Here's what I've done so far:

In Menu > Settings:
Set visibility to "Show Always"
Set name

In Menu > Bluetooth:
Enabled Bluetooth
uner <Add New>, I selected "Searching & pairing"

It says there aren't any BT devices to be found. Am I doing this right?



Did you put the headset into "pairing mode" ? If you have no idea what I'm talking about....then, there's the first problem.

[FloorMatt]

Ok, you're doing everything on THE PHONE correctly...

But, you also need to put the headset itself.....into a "pairing mode" (It's what makes the headset visible to your phone......to make a "bond"). Look in the headset's user manual for information on pairing with your phone......and putting the headset into "Pairing Mode".

[mmakris]

i held the Multifunction button (aka big button with phone icon) down for 3 seconds until it flashed 3 times, then it started to flash once every few seconds. the instructions that
came with the headset were exteremely brief, so there's no troubleshooting information or anything like that

Ok, you're doing everything on THE PHONE correctly...

But, you also need to put the headset itself.....into a "pairing mode" (It's what makes the headset visible to your phone......to make a "bond"). Look in the headset's user manual for information on pairing with your phone......and putting the headset into "Pairing Mode".

[pmpw]

I have the rare chance to get Moto stuff for free from my wife, she works in IT for Motorola. I have just recently started using BT (about 3 months) and have tried ALL of motorolas BT headsets as well as a few others and would have to say hands down the 500 is the best of them all. I have very sensitve ears and most all headsets/ear buds I have used ended up with me feeling like I have a bruised ear just after a short time with them on, not so with 500, I honestly dont even feel it there anymore and can wear it all day, and do. Although close to the same size as the 820 it is considerably lighter. I get NO echo effect on this as I did on the 820 and it seams to set better against your ear canal as well. Battery life is excellent more than enough to get me through an entire day as well as the standby time. All of the other headsets I have used, BT and wired, people were always able to tell I was on a hands free set. The later not being so with the new 500, I have yet to have anyone that tell the diff. between it and speaking directly into the phone. So if your looking for a good solid BT headset my vote goes to the 500. I use it on my Treo as well as my LG-325.
I give it 5 stars!
Just my .02 worth

[UBDg]

I've tried four different BT headsets and all have had the same problem with the PM325 to different degrees: people frequently say they hear an echo of their voice when talking to me. The most common suggestion is to turn my headset volume down (the rationale, I guess, is that the mouthpiece is picking up the sound from the earpiece) but that hasn't helped.

Currently I'm using the Motorola HS810 which seems to be no better or worse than the Jabra, Body Glove or Cardo Scala. Anyone with a similar experience?

I also got Sprint to replace the phone--no help there either. A couple of Sprint store employees have intimated that this phone has poor BT performance.

Thanks.
This is exactly (except I have the 820) the same thing I have gone through... Even down to having Sprint replacing the phone.

I started with a Jabra headset, and repeatedly lost connectivity (almost like a timeout condition) after a couple calls.

I like my phone, nut I use the BT headset all the time, I'm thinking that as soon as another BT option is released - bye bye LG... and that's a bummer becasue I've had really good luck with the LG progucts up till now. I just think that this was a flop for them.

Other friends that have BT setups with other phone are not having the same issues.

[sj612]

If anyone has experience with a specific brand/model of a BT headset where you DO NOT get complaints from callers hearing an echo of their own voice, I'd appreciate hearing about it.

[FloorMatt]

If anyone has experience with a specific brand/model of a BT headset where you DO NOT get complaints from callers hearing an echo of their own voice, I'd appreciate hearing about it.

It's going to be hard to find one, really.......due to most of them having the mic right next to the speaker. (You'll have to adjust the volume just right).

Take a look at my review of the Cardo Scala 500: http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67352

Amazon.com has it for $38, btw. I made my decision based on what others have said at this forum.

[Orphan Rescuer]

I have been using a Plantronics M2500 for the past few weeks and it seems to fit well and the sound is good. I am learning of an annoying feature, though. When ending a call, if the other person hangs up and I don't also end the call by pressing the headset's multifunction button or by using the phone keypad, the BT connection drops off. The only way to get reconnected is by turning off the headset and turning it on again.

I am thinking that either BT is still a "bleeding edge" technology, or the LG325 is not a fully matured bluetooth product. In fact, I am looking at other carriers to try out their BT phones. I expect other phones and carriers will have the features enabled that make BT effective. One big one is that a call made from the handset will automatically transfer to the headset upon connection. This HAS to be working on other BT headsets and phones!!!

By the way, the poster that was raving about his Cardo 500 - does it work for you to transfer the call to the headset by using the headset multifunction button? On the Cardo that I tried, the multifunction button would NOT transfer the call. It DROPPED the call!! The only way to transfer to the headset was to use the phone's keypad. Four keys - down, down, down, Audio Transfer - for EVERY CALL! And this is supposed to be "high technology"?

Someone posted earlier a couples entries back asking about noise cancellation. I can't offer any help there. That wasn't important to me and I don't have anything to share. I really think you have to try a headset out.

So, winning my BT comparo so far is the M2500, mainly because of fit (very comfortable for hours!!!) and the sound (robust, full range, and loud enough for noisy situations).

[mmakris]

Hi,

I recently purchased the Motorola HS820 Bluetooth headset and use it with my PM-325 phone. It works great. I've asked a few callers if they hear an echo, and they all say it sounds fine. It could be a service issue maybe? I'm in chicago where there's a switch and repeater everywhere you look, so service isn't a huge issue here. Have you tried calling cutomer service?

If anyone has had a problem pairing your HS820 headset with your PM-325 phone, you need to hold the "big button" on the headset for about 10 sec. In the instructions (about the size of a large business card) that motorola provided me, it said to hold it down for 3 sec.... that only enables the Bluetooth protocol. Wait until the light is a solid blue, then pair! Waiting for the 3 blinks doesn't work unless you've already paired!

If anyone has experience with a specific brand/model of a BT headset where you DO NOT get complaints from callers hearing an echo of their own voice, I'd appreciate hearing about it.

[Orphan Rescuer]

I tried this headset for a month. Quick feedback:

The position of the speaker wasn't optimum. There is not enough room for it to sit comfortably in the opening of the ear canal. The tendency was to ride up above the ear canal opening, requiring constant adjustment. The arrangement of the earloop and the speaker doesn't provide for any adjustment, so if your ear is not the "right" size, the speaker may not be located in the middle of your ear canal.

Weight is hefty in comparison to other headsets: 1 ounce. Most are in the .5 (Cardo) to .7 range. Sitting as it does behind the ear, the weight is not as noticeable as a lighter headset that sits outside the ear (like the Motorola 850). The weight wasn't the determining factor for me.

Sound quality was a bit thinner than the Plantronics M2500. The sound quality of this headset is among the best in the group. The incoming sound was ample for noisy environments and the microphone produces a sound for listeners that is near the top of the class.

The buttons that operate the unit are tedious to use. The three operational buttons on this headset are small. The two volume control buttons (one each for up and down) are mounted along the bottom edge of the headset when worn on the left ear. They are easy enough to find but small enough to take extra attention to manipulate. The multifunction button for making voice dial calls, answering, and hanging up calls is located about in the middle of the outside surface of the mic boom. The button is very small and mounted almost flush with the surface of the headset, making it very difficult to find quickly. Button operation is not easy, either. Depression of the button takes a firm push from a finger, or specific operation by a fingernail. Using a finger pushes the headet into the ear (UGH!!) and using three fingers to hold the boom on either side and depress with a fingernail, is not simple to do.

This headset has the longest boom of the group and definitely is noticeable when being worn. It is slim enough to be easily pocketable.

The build quality is excellent! The connection of the earloop to the main headset body is secure but swivels easily and quickly to fit either ear. The quality of the plastic seemed sturdy and the finish appeared to be able to hold up well without scratching or wear showing.

I read another reviewer who complained about the indicator light. Yep, it is definitely large and noticeable. At night, it does cast a reflection on the driver's side window. If I were going to keep this headset, I would put some black tape or paint over most of the light opening, which is a good half-inch long. Overkill in the lighting department!!

This headset held out promise at first. The build was good, the sound was good. But over the weeks the fit wasn't comfortable and the operation of the buttons was annoying. Some things you can compromise on, but not the fit. There are better-fitting (which is a highly-individualized situation!) and easier to operate headsets out there. Like the Plantronics M2500. :)

[pmpw]

If anyone has experience with a specific brand/model of a BT headset where you DO NOT get complaints from callers hearing an echo of their own voice, I'd appreciate hearing about it.

Read my post above

[rothwells]

I have noticed that there's almost no mention of the Jabra BT800.

Does anyone use this? If you don't like it, why?

Thanks

[zalgoku]

Has anyone used the Tekkeon eztalker mini and if so, what do you think about it? (quality, static, range, comfort, size, weight, etc.)

[Arclight]

Well I'll post my rant on here I guess. I'm now on the third headset with my PM325 and I'm convinced the echo issues are due to the PM325 being garbage where BT is concerned.

All callers hear some amount of echo regardless of handset or headset volume, enough to where it bugs them or they ask me where I'm talking from, in a bathroom? etc. This is on two different PM325s with V18 and V19.

Additionally, I have tested and heard the echo myself when calling my phone with my GF at the other end using the headsets.

And at work while bored I took the headsets and tested them on co-workers' Razr and Audiovox/UTStarcom smartphone - no annoying echo for callers talking to you.

The headsets arent the source of the problem. It is the PM325 COMPLETELY. I used a Plantronics 2500, HBH660, and some generic crappy $25 model from Hong Kong I got off of Ebay (which worked great as long as it wasnt paired with the PM325 by the way).

If someone has any magic way of eliminating the range, random static, disconnect, and echo issues with the PM325 please post. Because the only way that seemed to "cure" my 3 headsets was to use them with anything BUT the PM325.

I'm keeping the Plantronics btw, so if someone wants the generic headset I'll let it go for $15 shipped.

I've resigned myself to using a regular headset, and accepting that the PM325's BT (what I bought it for) is lousy...my GF is now using a Treo and our headsets work great with no echo.

[pmpw]

As in my other posts I am very happy with the headset I am currently using. I own a small biz and 13 phones on my plan. Now, obviously, the 325 makes up 12 of the 13 and then my treo650. The problem you are having Arclight sounds like it is a case of the headset volume being up to loud, the speaker and mic are only about an inch away from each other and the echo people hear is there voice from your headset. I say this from expierence, whenever I have an employe whos phone is echoing I have them turn down the headset volume and it disapears. Granted I do believe the BT works better with my treo than the PM325, but my wifes biz. phone is a Razor and she has the same headset as I and will have the same echo if her volume is up to loud as well. Just my .02, worth giving it a try.

[Arclight]

Thanks for the input. As mentioned though I've tried the volume on the headsets, even at minimum I still get people asking me about echo, which I dont get on the other handsets when using BT headsets at mid to low volume. The only variable left anymore is the PM325.

[rothwells]

Has anyone used the Tekkeon eztalker mini and if so, what do you think about it? (quality, static, range, comfort, size, weight, etc.)

I just received my EZ-Talker last night and, so far, I am very pleased.

Here are my observations so far:

1. For a person that wears glasses, I've found that the EZ-Talker is more confortable in the long term than the Motorola 850. Driving 5 hours yesterday with the Moto 850 gave me an earache. However, I have not had the EZ on my ear for 5 hours yet.

2. The audio quality, to me, seems better with the EZ over the Moto.

3. The EZ has more volume range than the Moto.

4. The EZ is smaller than the moto.

----on the Better for the Moto 850 side....

1. The Moto 850 has a great feature that plays a little tune in the headset when a call is connected or dropped. The EZ does NOT have this feature. Since, for some reason, the LG325 will NOT automatically connect the call to the headset when you dial from the phone, you have to look at the screen to see when the call has connected, only THEN can you transfer the call to the headset. The opposite is true as well, if a call is dropped the Moto 850 would play a recognizable tone in the headset that the call is over. The EZ does't have this. So if your call is dropped during a call, you might be talking to yourself for a while until you figure out that the line is dead. This, to me, is a big bummer.

2. Obviously, nothing says "I'm on" or "I'm off" like flipping the boom on the Moto. The EZ you have to turn on and off by using the same TALK button. No biggie, but just not obvious.

----- How the phone works with it ------

1. It connects in Handsfree mode (the little car icon).
2. I cannot seem to get the phone to automatically transfer the call to the headset, even though the EZ's manual says it's supposed to. For that matter, the Moto 850 didn't get the call automatically either.


As I use the headset for the next few days I'll post anything earth-shattering.

Stacy

[rothwells]

I have noticed that there's almost no mention of the Jabra BT800.

Does anyone use this? If you don't like it, why?

Thanks

I ordered one and it showed up in pieces, which made me worry about the durability of the device. Got another one to replace it and, to me, was VERY uncomfortable.

That, plus I could never get the PM325 to give the headset Caller ID, convinced me to return it.

Stacy

[Arclight]

Another annoyance, even at lowest volume on the headset (both phone and headset) using my M2500 today the person on the other end said I had bad wind noise or static. This is in a quiet room mind you. Both PM325's did this. Switched to the Treo - end of wind noise.

YMMV but I'd have to say BT on the PM325 is garbage. Not robust at all, range is terrible (putting the phone in my pants pocket creates a more crackly sounding connection - all the headsets experience this with both handsets). Once you use a phone whose BT is sorted out, you realize the huge difference.

[sycohen]

I tried to pair my Lg-PM325 with a Motorola HS-820 hands-free speaker ( which, by the way works perfectly with my Mot-E815) and it pairs OK, but will not stay connected reliablily. I took the phone back to Sprint and the answer I got was: The Pm-325 implementation of Bluetooth is really crappy. "Return the phone and come back in October. We will have a good bluetooth phone available then"