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Zeeshan
12-04-2004, 03:54 AM
Ok, so i searched, and i've read the current reviews of both phones. I'm torn between which one to get, and i was wondering if there is someone here that has both, or has experienced both phones?? Which is the better phone with reception? I know the A700 has a better camera. What are the pros and cons of each phone?

silvertongue206
12-04-2004, 12:18 PM
Ok, so i searched, and i've read the current reviews of both phones. I'm torn between which one to get, and i was wondering if there is someone here that has both, or has experienced both phones?? Which is the better phone with reception? I know the A700 has a better camera. What are the pros and cons of each phone?

Other forum folks might get mad at me for replying to your message, considering there have been many posts regarding this topic. I understand your state, though, since I was once there. Here's my two cents:

The a700 is a good phone. It exceeds the 7400 in picture resolution with 1 meg. camera, and I believe the inner screen display is 262k vs. the 62/64k on the 7400. My numbers might be off, but you get the jist of it. The menu is spectacular on the a700, and the rings + aac ringer support is pleasing as well. However, these are things that the 7400 has, minus the breathtaking menu options.

The 7400 gets better reception. I don't care what anybody says; Sanyo knows what they're doing when it comes to the antennae with Sprint (possibly because they once made phones solely for Sprint). In addition to the ring qualities it shares with the 700, the 7400 has this option where it rings, and a voice id's the caller in the ring-whether it be a number annunciated by the lady, or a name pronounced by the robotic guy (if the name has been programmed into the phone) i.e. "incoming call from ---". It's funky in my opinion. In correlation with this feature, there's the asr (automatic sound recognition or something) thing which allows you to command a call or other functions at the prompt - no programming required for this one (in other words, no more practicing her name into the phone, and having troubles using the voice command when you have a cold). It recognizes any voice.

The 7400 also has a speakerphone...they say half-duplex which creates problems as far as sound emmitted and transmitted at the same time, yet, I've had NO problems. It's also readylink capable, and the changable faceplates serves as a nice option. Never thought I'd be the one to cater to the cosmetics of a phone, but so far I've rotated between the titanium (which it comes with), dark blue, and black onyx. They all look clean.

The 7400's video looks better to me than the 700's. The 700's seemed a little choppy. The 7400 has three different options for the video in terms of resolution, which ultimately has an effect on time of video. Anywhere from 15 seconds (which the 700 is limited to), to 30 seconds. I'm set on 20.

Multimedia...I can't really argue this point, since I never used it on the 700. I seen the demo in the stores with this phone, and if i recall correctly, they looked the same. One thing though...since the 700 doesn't have speakerphone, the sound comes from the earpiece. Not as loud, and a little concerning to the stability of the voice coils in the earpiece.

Altough the screen on the 700 is supposedly better, the 7400 looks quite crisp to me. All in all, I favor the 7400, simply because of the functionality this phone has to offer. The 700 is a good phone...I might add, the sound quality was a little clearer to me with the 700, but there's a bug with the noise distortion reducer, or whatever it is, that made it difficult to hear at times. My advice to you is go with the 7400 (it's an amazing phone), and if you don't like it, you've got 14 days to return it for the 700. In all honesty, if you can wait, the 5600 might be the way to go. Hope this helps. Easy.

MsRandall
12-04-2004, 01:29 PM
I agree 100% on your short review head to head.

Zeeshan
12-04-2004, 02:42 PM
cool, well for now im getting a 700, i'll try and see how i like it, and we'll go from there. As far as reception goes, i feel that has a lot to do with where you live and the things around you, so we'll see how the reception is. my vm4500 reception sucks in my room.

Jaggrey
12-04-2004, 05:04 PM
From what I've seen the A700 has a separate speaker for the MM features and the ringers. It's located on the back of the unit.

Jonacell
12-04-2004, 07:01 PM
Jaggrey is correct. The sound from the Samsung a700 comes from the separate speaker in the back and the earpiece at the same time. (when using the Multimedia player or playing ringers/videos)

silvertongue206
12-04-2004, 09:37 PM
From what I've seen the A700 has a separate speaker for the MM features and the ringers. It's located on the back of the unit.

Whoops...that's my mistake. Thanks for the correction. I just recall that it wasn't as loud as the 7400.

In addition to my little review, I'd like to add that the camera on the 700 puzzles me. Sure it's got the rotating camera, but that doesn't do justice for a flash. I've mentioned on another thread that when I tried to take a picture of myself and A.C. Slater (hey, he was a cool dude in my days... :D ), I had to guesstimate our position in the camera, since I needed the flash, and had the flip face down. You can't see yourself this way, which is kind of bam. Other than that...it made me happy while I had it.

Zeeshan
12-05-2004, 02:10 AM
man, AC Slater was the man back in the day!! i bought some jeans with the elastic ankles because of that guy, although zack always got kelly...and kelly was hot.

Anyway, back to the phone, so the 700 has no speakerphone, just speaker for multimedia tv? thats a feature i might miss when checking voicemail, made my life easy. I'll check it out and see if i like it, i really do want the megapixel camera since i take pics of random crap. I mean, i have a 5 megapixel sony cybershot, but thats for special occasions, i dont just have it when im driving around, or out somewhere, so it would be nice to have something i can take decent quality pics with. Anyway, as i said, i'll check it out, and if i don't really like it, i'll probably sell it and get a 7400.

tuolumne
12-05-2004, 04:25 PM
A700:

Better camera, user interface earpeice, status LED, internal/external display's, and earpeice...


7400:

Has a half-duplex speaker phone with Ready Link, and has rugged sides...

A700 cons:

No RL, no speaker

7400 cons:


muffled earpeice, ho-hum user interface, only 9 speedial locations, worse internal/external display's

about:blank
12-05-2004, 05:30 PM
I have tried both of these phones I tried the A700 when it first cmae out and had to return it twice to get a new one untill i just returned it for good becaus ethe earpiece was soooo weak!

needless to say i jsut got the 7400 a week or two ago and havent had one dropped call yet!! and no problems whatsoever with the earpiece..and if are a fan of the speaker phone...you will miss it witht the A700 i know i did.

hands down (in my opinion) the 7400 is a way better phone!

side note: i ddint know tis because ive never had a sanyo before but at the sprint store the rep told me that sanyos have such good reception because sayo specifically manufactures phones for sprint antennas unlike samsung etc who make phones for all different wireless providers..i thought that was pretty cool! and i can definetely tell!

tuolumne
12-05-2004, 05:35 PM
side note: i ddint know tis because ive never had a sanyo before but at the sprint store the rep told me that sanyos have such good reception because sayo specifically manufactures phones for sprint antennas unlike samsung etc who make phones for all different wireless providers..i thought that was pretty cool! and i can definetely tell!

lol..that's funny

The A680/700/760 all have better reception that most of the Sanyo's....

AND, antenas are not what give Sanyo's their great reception...lol

Recluse
12-05-2004, 05:39 PM
lol..that's funny

The A680/700/760 all have better reception that most of the Sanyo's....

AND, antenas are not what give Sanyo's their great reception...lol

wrong, sanyos do have the best reception. you never even had any of those samsungs you listen troll and youre already saying they have better reception than the sanyos.

tuolumne
12-05-2004, 05:46 PM
wrong, sanyos do have the best reception. you never even had any of those samsungs you listen troll and youre already saying they have better reception than the sanyos.

Sorry man, but you don't have to own the entire Sprint lineup to make comments like I did... ;)

MsRandall
12-05-2004, 06:19 PM
Okay lets not get into a flame war....OP try out both phones and make the decision yourself....I hate the this phone vs that phone threads...they always end up with someone flaming another....AGREE TO DISAGREE.

In_A_Frenzy
12-06-2004, 04:56 AM
I bought the MM 7400 on Saturday. I thought I would try a Sanyo phone. I'm coming from a LG LX5350 (yeah from long ago, my first cell phone). I loved that phone I had no problems deciding to get it back then. The interface/graphics and layout was so nice and functional, it had everything I (plus calendar, notepad, and alarm) needed and the ringers were very professional quality. LG makes great CDMA phones.
Anyway, my 7400......This has got to be the worst interface I have eva seen. It's LACKING ALOT (but it still serves its purpose). I might neva buy a Sanyo again. I feel like returning the phone and repairing my 5350 or getting the A700. I neva got to try the A700 but it's a Samsung so I know the interface will look great. It's also very powerful checkout jbenchmark.com. The graphics on the 7400 are mediocre and ringers sound like Sanyo got some homemade ringers from one of them websites (I can make better ringers with a harmonica).

The phone does look very rugged and sleek and performs great. But it's Sanyo’s ugly/impractical interface that spoils it. Some people might not notice it. But I guess I’m comparing it with my 5350.

BTW
Does anyone know of a way to hack/change the firmwares inside phones? Also, the salesperson at the store said my MSL out load when she way programming my phone. I had it memorized up until I reached my street and forgot. It begins with like 213***. Can anyone help me with this?

3G Cables
12-06-2004, 07:05 AM
I bought the MM 7400 on Saturday. I thought I would try a Sanyo phone. I'm coming from a LG LX5350 (yeah from long ago, my first cell phone). I loved that phone I had no problems deciding to get it back then. The interface/graphics and layout was so nice and functional, it had everything I (plus calendar, notepad, and alarm) needed and the ringers were very professional quality. LG makes great CDMA phones.
Anyway, my 7400......This has got to be the worst interface I have eva seen. It's LACKING ALOT (but it still serves its purpose). I might neva buy a Sanyo again. I feel like returning the phone and repairing my 5350 or getting the A700. I neva got to try the A700 but it's a Samsung so I know the interface will look great. It's also very powerful checkout jbenchmark.com. The graphics on the 7400 are mediocre and ringers sound like Sanyo got some homemade ringers from one of them websites (I can make better ringers with a harmonica).

The phone does look very rugged and sleek and performs great. But it's Sanyo’s ugly/impractical interface that spoils it. Some people might not notice it. But I guess I’m comparing it with my 5350.

BTW
Does anyone know of a way to hack/change the firmwares inside phones? Also, the salesperson at the store said my MSL out load when she way programming my phone. I had it memorized up until I reached my street and forgot. It begins with like 213***. Can anyone help me with this?

This is probably the best side by side comparison you will ever see http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/compare.php?id%5B%5D=532&id%5B%5D=631&id%5B%5D=&id%5B%5D=&id%5B%5D=

Matt
12-06-2004, 07:15 AM
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Why is it so hard to figure out what phone works best you?

3G Cables
12-06-2004, 07:18 AM
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Why is it so hard to figure out what phone works best you?

Because Sprint or other companies don’t let you do a trial run of your phones. You cant possible use all the functions at the store itself. It needs to be put to real-life use the most important being the signal strength in the area that you use it the most such as your home and work. That is one reason. Another is because someone that may have owned both phones can give real-life pros and cons between the two.

Hopes this helps you understand why some people have a hard time deciding.

Matt
12-06-2004, 07:31 AM
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Why is it so hard to figure out what phone works best you?

Because Sprint or other companies don’t let you do a trial run of your phones. You cant possible use all the functions at the store itself. It needs to be put to real-life use the most important being the signal strength in the area that you use it the most such as your home and work. That is one reason. Another is because someone that may have owned both phones can give real-life pros and cons between the two.

Hopes this helps you understand why some people have a hard time deciding.

No. I know that I have a trial period with all carriers. I also know that when I got my t mobile phone that I was given a trial phone for twenty four hours. Sadly sprint does not allow that.

3G Cables
12-06-2004, 07:35 AM
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No. I know that I have a trial period with all carriers. I also know that when I got my t mobile phone that I was given a trial phone for twenty four hours. Sadly sprint does not allow that.

Wether you think it is a trial period or not there are SOME charges that you will still have to pay if you do not choose to go with that company. These included non-refundable charges such as activation fees in many instances as well as talk time in many instances.

3G Cables
12-06-2004, 07:38 AM
Wether you think it is a trial period or not there are SOME charges that you will still have to pay if you do not choose to go with that company. These included non-refundable charges such as activation fees in many instances as well as talk time in many instances.

Furthermore they mostly only give refurb phones as a loaner. I have never seen any carrier loan out a brand new phone that has just hit the market in order to "test" it. Yea, you can do the 14 day trial but you will for sure get stuck with fees. There is no thing as a 100% free trial of the phone of you choice.

Matt
12-06-2004, 07:46 AM
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That being said. I am glad that I do not have to depend on the biased opinions of web users to decide what is best for me. More so those that have stake in it.

Matt
12-06-2004, 08:04 AM
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Activation fee? There is only one activation fee with Sprint these days. I have tried five Sprint phones in the last eight months and not been charged an extra fee. They no longer charge for esn swaps, with gsm all you have do is put your sim card in. No fee for that. And yes I tested three new in a box phones before I switched.

VzeroX
12-09-2004, 12:23 AM
I can't say much as far as the Sanyo goes... I've never owned one, but I have 2 friends that love them.

Anyways, I have the A700. Previous to this, I've had the A620 and A680. All I can say is that I LOVE this phone. The keypad layout is very practical, the buttons are large enough for my hands (A680's were WAAAAAAY too small and close together), have a nice tactile feel to them. Ok, for the nitty gritty... Reception... I don't know about Sanyo, but with the phones I've had, the 700 does ok 90% of the places I go. At work, it's useless, but so is everyone else's phone. I know people with Cricket, ATT, Qwest, and Nextel at work, and NOBODY gets much if any signal there.... my friend with a Sanyo RL-7300 (?) didn't get a signal either. As far as battery life, the standard battery seems on par with the A680's extended battery, which was less than stellar. Keep in mind though, that during my 8 hours at work, at LEAST 1/2 the time is spent searching for a signal. Weekends, I can easily make it Sat and Sun without charging. The screen is georgious... almost at the level of the Toshiba, just minus some pixels. The web browser is much better than my previous Samsungs, allowing access to more web pages, though not much faster on most pages. The earpiece is crystal clear, and plenty loud. Also, as said earlier, there's an external speaker used for ringers and multimedia, so you can actually HEAR it ring (hello? 680?). The ringers sound unreal too... even the same ringtones I had downloaded on the 680 sound different. There are now notes I hadn't heard before!!! The AAC ringers are incredible too. The camera makes a decent photo, though the flash is a little lacking compared to the 680 which was VERY bright. The video looks fairly good too as long as you have enough light.

All I'm really trying to say is that the 700 seems to me to be a better all around phone than the Sanyo. It has more features, and more bells n' whistles too. Honestly, I didn't even realize that Sanyo opted for a VGA camera on the multimedia phone... that surprises me... and would prevent me from buying it. Also, I can't tolerate the Sanyo keypads... they look cool, but that's about it... the keys are small, and every Sanyo looks the same IMO.

The Sanyo doesn't look like a bad phone to me, but the Samsung certainly looks to be a better phone.

tuolumne
12-09-2004, 12:40 AM
I can't say much as far as the Sanyo goes... I've never owned one, but I have 2 friends that love them.

Anyways, I have the A700. Previous to this, I've had the A620 and A680. All I can say is that I LOVE this phone. The keypad layout is very practical, the buttons are large enough for my hands (A680's were WAAAAAAY too small and close together), have a nice tactile feel to them. Ok, for the nitty gritty... Reception... I don't know about Sanyo, but with the phones I've had, the 700 does ok 90% of the places I go. At work, it's useless, but so is everyone else's phone. I know people with Cricket, ATT, Qwest, and Nextel at work, and NOBODY gets much if any signal there.... my friend with a Sanyo RL-7300 (?) didn't get a signal either. As far as battery life, the standard battery seems on par with the A680's extended battery, which was less than stellar. Keep in mind though, that during my 8 hours at work, at LEAST 1/2 the time is spent searching for a signal. Weekends, I can easily make it Sat and Sun without charging. The screen is georgious... almost at the level of the Toshiba, just minus some pixels. The web browser is much better than my previous Samsungs, allowing access to more web pages, though not much faster on most pages. The earpiece is crystal clear, and plenty loud. Also, as said earlier, there's an external speaker used for ringers and multimedia, so you can actually HEAR it ring (hello? 680?). The ringers sound unreal too... even the same ringtones I had downloaded on the 680 sound different. There are now notes I hadn't heard before!!! The AAC ringers are incredible too. The camera makes a decent photo, though the flash is a little lacking compared to the 680 which was VERY bright. The video looks fairly good too as long as you have enough light.

All I'm really trying to say is that the 700 seems to me to be a better all around phone than the Sanyo. It has more features, and more bells n' whistles too. Honestly, I didn't even realize that Sanyo opted for a VGA camera on the multimedia phone... that surprises me... and would prevent me from buying it. Also, I can't tolerate the Sanyo keypads... they look cool, but that's about it... the keys are small, and every Sanyo looks the same IMO.

The Sanyo doesn't look like a bad phone to me, but the Samsung certainly looks to be a better phone.

yeah, I have to agree with everything you said

tuolumne
12-09-2004, 12:41 AM
Furthermore they mostly only give refurb phones as a loaner. I have never seen any carrier loan out a brand new phone that has just hit the market in order to "test" it. Yea, you can do the 14 day trial but you will for sure get stuck with fees. There is no thing as a 100% free trial of the phone of you choice.

Loving the new Avatar ;)

vdiesel
12-09-2004, 01:10 AM
i had both phones and i decided to keep the 7400 its the best phone rite now to me. the a700 has the meg camera and the better lookin menu but the 7400 is all around doesnt have the mega camera but it still looks good. with acc ringer you can set as a phone book entry but with the a700 the acc ringers cannot be set as anything but just to preview. i think that sux. but i would go with the 7400 or wait till the 5600 comes out

silvertongue206
12-09-2004, 02:25 AM
I can't say much as far as the Sanyo goes... I've never owned one, but I have 2 friends that love them.

Anyways, I have the A700. Previous to this, I've had the A620 and A680. All I can say is that I LOVE this phone. The keypad layout is very practical, the buttons are large enough for my hands (A680's were WAAAAAAY too small and close together), have a nice tactile feel to them. Ok, for the nitty gritty... Reception... I don't know about Sanyo, but with the phones I've had, the 700 does ok 90% of the places I go. At work, it's useless, but so is everyone else's phone. I know people with Cricket, ATT, Qwest, and Nextel at work, and NOBODY gets much if any signal there.... my friend with a Sanyo RL-7300 (?) didn't get a signal either. As far as battery life, the standard battery seems on par with the A680's extended battery, which was less than stellar. Keep in mind though, that during my 8 hours at work, at LEAST 1/2 the time is spent searching for a signal. Weekends, I can easily make it Sat and Sun without charging. The screen is georgious... almost at the level of the Toshiba, just minus some pixels. The web browser is much better than my previous Samsungs, allowing access to more web pages, though not much faster on most pages. The earpiece is crystal clear, and plenty loud. Also, as said earlier, there's an external speaker used for ringers and multimedia, so you can actually HEAR it ring (hello? 680?). The ringers sound unreal too... even the same ringtones I had downloaded on the 680 sound different. There are now notes I hadn't heard before!!! The AAC ringers are incredible too. The camera makes a decent photo, though the flash is a little lacking compared to the 680 which was VERY bright. The video looks fairly good too as long as you have enough light.

All I'm really trying to say is that the 700 seems to me to be a better all around phone than the Sanyo. It has more features, and more bells n' whistles too. Honestly, I didn't even realize that Sanyo opted for a VGA camera on the multimedia phone... that surprises me... and would prevent me from buying it. Also, I can't tolerate the Sanyo keypads... they look cool, but that's about it... the keys are small, and every Sanyo looks the same IMO.

The Sanyo doesn't look like a bad phone to me, but the Samsung certainly looks to be a better phone.

sorry, but the 700 does NOT have more features than the 7400...

jdb8167
12-14-2004, 07:03 PM
with acc ringer you can set as a phone book entry but with the a700 the acc ringers cannot be set as anything but just to preview. i think that sux.I'm either not understanding you or you are just flat out wrong. You can assign AAC ringers to any phone entry on the A700. What you can't do is have a video assigned to a phone entry, pictures only.

jdb8167
12-14-2004, 07:16 PM
In correlation with this feature, there's the asr (automatic sound recognition or something) thing which allows you to command a call or other functions at the prompt - no programming required for this one (in other words, no more practicing her name into the phone, and having troubles using the voice command when you have a cold). It recognizes any voice.The A700 also has speaker independent voice recognition. You can press and hold the talk button and at the prompt say one of the following:

Call
Send Text
Lookup <name>
Go To <app>
Check Status
Check Signal
Check Battery
Check Network
Check My Phone Number

It all works pretty well for me. Occasionally I have to add a nickname to the phone list--for example Catie isn't recognized for me but I added Katie as a nickname and it works.

tuolumne
12-14-2004, 07:38 PM
sorry, but the 700 does NOT have more features than the 7400...

lol...

262K internal display, 1 MP camera, more intiutive, better looking 3-D menu's...

Sanyo has speaker phone, Ready Link

BillybathGate
12-15-2004, 12:00 AM
The A700 also has speaker independent voice recognition. You can press and hold the talk button and at the prompt say one of the following:

Call
Send Text
Lookup <name>
Go To <app>
Check Status
Check Signal
Check Battery
Check Network
Check My Phone Number

It all works pretty well for me. Occasionally I have to add a nickname to the phone list--for example Catie isn't recognized for me but I added Katie as a nickname and it works.


Umm, my 7400 does the same thing!!!

tuolumne
12-15-2004, 12:04 AM
Umm, my 7400 does the same thing!!!

not voice signal

BillybathGate
12-15-2004, 12:14 AM
not voice signal
Oh well.... can't have everything now can we?

tuolumne
12-15-2004, 12:20 AM
Oh well.... can't have everything now can we?


All to true......

evoi
12-15-2004, 12:54 AM
Thanks for the review guys, the 7400 sounds nice, but man o man I'm afraid to try Sanyo again after all the issues I had with the 4500, earpiece to loud or muffled, mysterious calls straight to voicemail even though I had reception and was not on the phone, etc.

Jaggrey
12-15-2004, 07:59 AM
not voice signal
I thought it was voice signal technology?

MsRandall
12-15-2004, 08:15 AM
Thanks for the review guys, the 7400 sounds nice, but man o man I'm afraid to try Sanyo again after all the issues I had with the 4500, earpiece to loud or muffled, mysterious calls straight to voicemail even though I had reception and was not on the phone, etc.


Dont let that stop you the 7400 is a very solid phone....improved earpiece, and most of all very little bugs....

nilepez
12-15-2004, 01:10 PM
Thanks for the review guys, the 7400 sounds nice, but man o man I'm afraid to try Sanyo again after all the issues I had with the 4500, earpiece to loud or muffled, mysterious calls straight to voicemail even though I had reception and was not on the phone, etc.

If you like the feature set better than the A700s, then try the 7400. IMO, the earpiece is fine, and I had a samsung before this (albeit one that I bought 3.5 years ago).

The only way it's muffled (assuming everyones definition of muffled is sound lacking in the upper mid-range) is if your ear isn't over the earpiece, and even then, it's pretty good.

The one thing about the A700 I like much better, though I've never tried it, is the better camera. The few shots I've tried with this one are only acceptable as pictures displayed on a phone or an avatar.

I haven't messed with the video, since so far....I really just wanted the big screen, AAC, Voice Dialing and speaker phone (even if it is half-duplex)....the changable faceplates are nice too.

Kevin

BillybathGate
12-15-2004, 01:26 PM
Thanks for the review guys, the 7400 sounds nice, but man o man I'm afraid to try Sanyo again after all the issues I had with the 4500, earpiece to loud or muffled, mysterious calls straight to voicemail even though I had reception and was not on the phone, etc.
Trust me man... you're going to looooooooooove the 7400! BIG DIFFERENCE! :tu:

Zeeshan
12-15-2004, 02:05 PM
I went with the A700 for now, since i had already ordered it when i started this thread, and so far so good. I'll get a few weeks out of it and see if i want to keep it for good....although what really is "for good"...until the 5600 comes out?

kiloj
12-16-2004, 05:32 PM
The A700 is the worst phone for the price and reception sure you have a 1 megapixel camera but the reception is the worst i have ever seen...... who cares about the TV feature on the phone, if i want to watch TV I will watch it at home..... I traded my sanyo 5500 for the samsung boy was that a big mistake..... I had perfect reception with my sanyo at home but with the samsung I am sometimes roaming or have 1 to 2 bars..... i cant wait for the sanyo 5600 comes out i will buy that one..... I miss Ready Link :mad: :bang:

tuolumne
12-16-2004, 06:30 PM
Thanks for the review guys, the 7400 sounds nice, but man o man I'm afraid to try Sanyo again after all the issues I had with the 4500, earpiece to loud or muffled, mysterious calls straight to voicemail even though I had reception and was not on the phone, etc.

If you thought the 5500's earpeice was bad, you will be sorely dissapointed with the Sanyo...

Go try out the two phones at the store and listen to the clarity difference...

Zeeshan
12-16-2004, 11:59 PM
The A700 is the worst phone for the price and reception sure you have a 1 megapixel camera but the reception is the worst i have ever seen...... who cares about the TV feature on the phone, if i want to watch TV I will watch it at home..... I traded my sanyo 5500 for the samsung boy was that a big mistake..... I had perfect reception with my sanyo at home but with the samsung I am sometimes roaming or have 1 to 2 bars..... i cant wait for the sanyo 5600 comes out i will buy that one..... I miss Ready Link :mad: :bang:

hmm, thats interesting because i had crappy reception with my 5500 and that's why i went with the A700. The reception was fine when i was out, but at home it sucked bad. Now with the A700, i have much better reception at home. I'm happy so far with the switch. I think it might depend on where you live really, but for me the a700 so far is no regrets. It's working great, and it's nice to have to good camera. As far as ready link goes, i never was subscribed to it, plus i can't use it because none of my friends with sprint has it either...but i have free sprint to sprint so its all good.

Bottom line, i think the A700 is a good phone for me so far. After a few more weeks i'll find out for sure...but it beats my 5500 hands down. I also love the larger buttons. Yea, the whole flash thing sucks where i can't take a self portrait with flash, but the camera is still great.

Jaggrey
12-17-2004, 07:44 AM
My A700 has frozen twice so far in the day that I've had it. One was text message related, the other time I can't remember what i was doing.

Zeeshan
12-17-2004, 01:12 PM
mine was freezing the day i got it too, but that's because it was still downloading things from sprint. i was pretty pissed about the whole ordeal until the next day when it started working perfectly.

tbakergobucks
12-17-2004, 01:37 PM
jagg what software you got just curious. I didn't text a lot but when I replied on this wap site from the phone I noticed I think if I refreshed the page before I sent the reply it didn't lock up. How do you like it so far?

Jaggrey
12-17-2004, 04:08 PM
I'm liking it less and less. After a 20 min phone conversation and some text messages I was down to 1 battery bar. The A680 with standard battery wasn't this bad.... heck the 6225 got me thru more of the day. With this phone it's almost dead by lunchtime.

On top of that it's frozen/rebooted at least 6 or 7 times since I've got it (not even 2 days). Most of the time I'd either be sending a text message or once it did it when receiving a call.

Definitely NOT a keeper.

I have XJ13.

MsRandall
12-17-2004, 04:13 PM
I'm liking it less and less. After a 20 min phone conversation and some text messages I was down to 1 battery bar. The A680 with standard battery wasn't this bad.... heck the 6225 got me thru more of the day. With this phone it's almost dead by lunchtime.

On top of that it's frozen/rebooted at least 6 or 7 times since I've got it (not even 2 days). Most of the time I'd either be sending a text message or once it did it when receiving a call.

Definitely NOT a keeper.

I have XJ13.

Jagg

Go back to the store and have that manager order you a 7400... :D

Jaggrey
12-17-2004, 11:40 PM
Jagg

Go back to the store and have that manager order you a 7400... :D
I've been to the Sprint store too much this past month.... I'm sick of it. That and whatever list they follow I don't think has the A700 listed as being replaceable with the 7400.

Shoot at this point I'd gladly pay Lockline to send me a 7400 and I'd send them this back.

tuolumne
12-18-2004, 12:04 AM
Jagg

Go back to the store and have that manager order you a 7400... :D

or he could just get another one :rolleyes:

tuolumne
12-18-2004, 12:06 AM
I'm liking it less and less. After a 20 min phone conversation and some text messages I was down to 1 battery bar. The A680 with standard battery wasn't this bad.... heck the 6225 got me thru more of the day. With this phone it's almost dead by lunchtime.

On top of that it's frozen/rebooted at least 6 or 7 times since I've got it (not even 2 days). Most of the time I'd either be sending a text message or once it did it when receiving a call.

Definitely NOT a keeper.

I have XJ13.

The batter life (at 4 hours talk time) is much better than the A680's...

Sorry about the freezing...why don't you go exhange it and see if that helps...

lockline would be very risky, and you'd probobly end up getting a scratched up reburbed A700

Jaggrey
12-18-2004, 12:35 AM
The batter life (at 4 hours talk time) is much better than the A680's...

Sorry about the freezing...why don't you go exhange it and see if that helps...

lockline would be very risky, and you'd probobly end up getting a scratched up reburbed A700
Could've fooled me... like I said this battery runs out alot faster than any other phone I've used. I dunno where they got 4 hours from.

i've had enough of Samsung.... 4 defective phones in a row is enough for me. :mad: Actually make that 5... my 2nd line's 2nd A680 is acting up too.

tuolumne
12-18-2004, 01:00 AM
Could've fooled me... like I said this battery runs out alot faster than any other phone I've used. I dunno where they got 4 hours from.

i've had enough of Samsung.... 4 defective phones in a row is enough for me. :mad: Actually make that 5... my 2nd line's 2nd A680 is acting up too.

Yeah, battery meters act weird...let it fully depleate and then charge it..that will get it in sync...

and man, Samsung's don't seem to like you...that sucks BIG TIME :o

Zeeshan
12-18-2004, 01:36 AM
Could've fooled me... like I said this battery runs out alot faster than any other phone I've used. I dunno where they got 4 hours from.

i've had enough of Samsung.... 4 defective phones in a row is enough for me. :mad: Actually make that 5... my 2nd line's 2nd A680 is acting up too.

sorry for your bad experience with the A700, but my battery life is excellent. I have no freezing problems other than the first day when i was trying to send pictures before the 4 hour download time. For me, great phone.

MsRandall
12-18-2004, 10:57 AM
or he could just get another one :rolleyes:

The reason I said a 7400 is because I agree the Samsung line doesnt agree with Jagg....and he really wants....a Sanyo 7400 :D

Jaggrey
12-18-2004, 11:20 AM
The reason I said a 7400 is because I agree the Samsung line doesnt agree with Jagg....and he really wants....a Sanyo 7400
:eek: who told u? :D

I honestly gave the A700 a chance.... if it had just acted right I would've kept it. But it's acted up too much and I've only had it for 2 days.

3G Cables
12-18-2004, 11:26 AM
:eek: who told u? :D

I honestly gave the A700 a chance.... if it had just acted right I would've kept it. But it's acted up too much and I've only had it for 2 days.

Patience is a virtue. Mine acted up for a few days and now is by far the best phone I have owned.

Jaggrey
12-18-2004, 11:35 AM
Patience is a virtue. Mine acted up for a few days and now is by far the best phone I have owned.
So I take it a few days is the "break-in period"? :rolleyes: That's ridiculous. I have to deal with it until I get a different phone anyway so we'll see how it works out, but it seems to get worse every day.

tuolumne
12-18-2004, 11:40 AM
So I take it a few days is the "break-in period"? :rolleyes: That's ridiculous. I have to deal with it until I get a different phone anyway so we'll see how it works out, but it seems to get worse every day.

GIVE IT A CHANCE :eek:

Jaggrey
12-18-2004, 11:51 AM
GIVE IT A CHANCE :eek:
I did. :eyeroll:

loowit_marikit
12-21-2004, 03:00 PM
I have had both phones before I settled with the 7400. The a700 was a good phone: better cam, crisper display, wonderful menus and contact lists, great interface overall; the only thing I didn't like about this phone was the fact that the ringer wasn't loud enough even at the highest level in public places (like even in a bus). I missed plenty of calls with this phone. Also, it lacks convenient features like speakerphone and other fun stuff you can do with the 7400.

Reception wise, I think they're the same. At least in my area, both give me the same signal strength. Sanyo's earpiece is excellent, I don't know why they're saying it's muffled. Battery life, the 7400 is the best!!! I just came from a trip from CA for 4 days and forgot my charger. Oh boy, I didn't have to worry about anything because it held up even with the standard battery! With the a700, I remember after viewing certain applications and playing some games it's already almost gone. Not witht he 7400, because I viewed an application to show to afriend and also played some games in the plane. I did turn it off for some time though to save battery; but still two bars when I got back at 1AM in WA.

I know Sanyo can do better with their interface and menus, but I am not very much after this because this phone has a lot to offer than the a700 and for $20 less. VGA camera, this is fine with me. It is decent enough for a phone. I still use a camera for shooting important pics. The 7400 has just a lot to offer than the a700. Only plus factr of the 700 is the camera, that's it. 7400 is soooo cute too with the changeable faceplates and the little buddy that walks on screen! Ringers on the 7400 are looooud! I do not have to worry missing calls even in the busiest of places because it can be heard clearly. I do not know, but did Sprint do something with their ringers because lately, my ringers sound louder than when I first got this phone (12/3) and also the Multimedia shows are really loud even at level 1 or 2. I love this 7400 and keeping it until it wears out. This is more than enough for my needs.

BillybathGate
12-21-2004, 03:09 PM
I have had both phones before I settled with the 7400. The a700 was a good phone: better cam, crisper display, wonderful menus and contact lists, great interface overall; the only thing I didn't like about this phone was the fact that the ringer wasn't loud enough even at the highest level in public places (like even in a bus). I missed plenty of calls with this phone. Also, it lacks convenient features like speakerphone and other fun stuff you can do with the 7400.

Reception wise, I think they're the same. At least in my area, both give me the same signal strength. Sanyo's earpiece is excellent, I don't know why they're saying it's muffled. Battery life, the 7400 is the best!!! I just came from a trip from CA for 4 days and forgot my charger. Oh boy, I didn't have to worry about anything because it held up even with the standard battery! With the a700, I remember after viewing certain applications and playing some games it's already almost gone. Not witht he 7400, because I viewed an application to show to afriend and also played some games in the plane. I did turn it off for some time though to save battery; but still two bars when I got back at 1AM in WA.

I know Sanyo can do better with their interface and menus, but I am not very much after this because this phone has a lot to offer than the a700 and for $20 less. VGA camera, this is fine with me. It is decent enough for a phone. I still use a camera for shooting important pics. The 7400 has just a lot to offer than the a700. Only plus factr of the 700 is the camera, that's it. 7400 is soooo cute too with the changeable faceplates and the little buddy that walks on screen! Ringers on the 7400 are looooud! I do not have to worry missing calls even in the busiest of places because it can be heard clearly. I do not know, but did Sprint do something with their ringers because lately, my ringers sound louder than when I first got this phone (12/3) and also the Multimedia shows are really loud even at level 1 or 2. I love this 7400 and keeping it until it wears out. This is more than enough for my needs.
I agree 100% :tu: BTW , the A700 only recieved 3 out of 5 for the editors review over @ cnet.

FlightService
12-21-2004, 05:38 PM
Simple post here.
I want to thank everyones opinion given it has meant alot to a very picky shopper (Hell it took me 3 months to buy a digital camera and I just wanted one for family shots!) Here is what I have deciphered from everyones posts.

A700 Great for people who use a phone as an entertainment piece (pics, messaging, notepad, etc.)

MM7400 stylish workhorse phone. (clear calls, strong signal, speaker phone, etc.)

Either way, both are great phones, but each has their "focus" areas.

Anybody need to add something I might have missed?

P.S. I have a Samsung A500, and I am not a fan of Samsung right now, although they do make good products, this phone isn't it. I have discovered the Motorola Shark of the Sprint line!!!! :o

tuolumne
12-21-2004, 06:39 PM
I agree 100% :tu: BTW , the A700 only recieved 3 out of 5 for the editors review over @ cnet.

try again...it got a 7.6/10

And if you trust Cnet, there is no helping you :rolleyes:

silvertongue206
12-23-2004, 01:41 AM
lol...

262K internal display, 1 MP camera, more intiutive, better looking 3-D menu's...

Sanyo has speaker phone, Ready Link

i said more features...not a select few better features. i'm not even going to point them out...they've been stated a number of times.

Zeeshan
12-24-2004, 03:42 AM
who woulda thought a simple post started by me would get so involved by so many members. There is a lot of good information here and i hope that people that couldn't decide like me get the information they need.

I havnt tried the 7400, but i was done with sanyo. Believe it or not, for me the A700 has been working wonders. Before that i had a VM4500, and with the 4500 i was dropping calls left and right, roughly dropping 10 call PER DAY! Especially in my room. But now with the A700 (some may not believe this, but i have nothing to lie about on an internet message board) i have NOT DROPPED EVEN ONE CALL! Im impressed, plus the 1 mp camera is a nice feature to have...i use the camera a lot. I'm happy with this phone and don't want to change anytime soon.

tuolumne
12-24-2004, 03:17 PM
who woulda thought a simple post started by me would get so involved by so many members. There is a lot of good information here and i hope that people that couldn't decide like me get the information they need.

I havnt tried the 7400, but i was done with sanyo. Believe it or not, for me the A700 has been working wonders. Before that i had a VM4500, and with the 4500 i was dropping calls left and right, roughly dropping 10 call PER DAY! Especially in my room. But now with the A700 (some may not believe this, but i have nothing to lie about on an internet message board) i have NOT DROPPED EVEN ONE CALL! Im impressed, plus the 1 mp camera is a nice feature to have...i use the camera a lot. I'm happy with this phone and don't want to change anytime soon.

Well good for you...That A700 is truely a great phone ;)

BillybathGate
12-24-2004, 03:46 PM
who woulda thought a simple post started by me would get so involved by so many members. There is a lot of good information here and i hope that people that couldn't decide like me get the information they need.

I havnt tried the 7400, but i was done with sanyo. Believe it or not, for me the A700 has been working wonders. Before that i had a VM4500, and with the 4500 i was dropping calls left and right, roughly dropping 10 call PER DAY! Especially in my room. But now with the A700 (some may not believe this, but i have nothing to lie about on an internet message board) i have NOT DROPPED EVEN ONE CALL! Im impressed, plus the 1 mp camera is a nice feature to have...i use the camera a lot. I'm happy with this phone and don't want to change anytime soon.
Try the 7400... and you'll QUICKLY change your mind about SANYO!

jh101_7
12-25-2004, 05:11 AM
not voice signal

yes it does

tuolumne
12-25-2004, 03:09 PM
Try the 7400... and you'll QUICKLY change your mind about SANYO!

Yeah, you will quickly discover they have been using the same earpeices, exterior displays, keys, and user interface...

At least other company's can grow :rolleyes:

tuolumne
12-25-2004, 03:09 PM
yes it does

Try again..................

FEE5FOFUM
02-28-2005, 09:34 PM
I bought the MM 7400 on Saturday. I thought I would try a Sanyo phone. I'm coming from a LG LX5350 (yeah from long ago, my first cell phone). I loved that phone I had no problems deciding to get it back then. The interface/graphics and layout was so nice and functional, it had everything I (plus calendar, notepad, and alarm) needed and the ringers were very professional quality. LG makes great CDMA phones.
Anyway, my 7400......This has got to be the worst interface I have eva seen. It's LACKING ALOT (but it still serves its purpose). I might neva buy a Sanyo again. I feel like returning the phone and repairing my 5350 or getting the A700. I neva got to try the A700 but it's a Samsung so I know the interface will look great. It's also very powerful checkout jbenchmark.com. The graphics on the 7400 are mediocre and ringers sound like Sanyo got some homemade ringers from one of them websites (I can make better ringers with a harmonica).

The phone does look very rugged and sleek and performs great. But it's Sanyo’s ugly/impractical interface that spoils it. Some people might not notice it. But I guess I’m comparing it with my 5350.

BTW
Does anyone know of a way to hack/change the firmwares inside phones? Also, the salesperson at the store said my MSL out load when she way programming my phone. I had it memorized up until I reached my street and forgot. It begins with like 213***. Can anyone help me with this?

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I HOPE THAT CAN HELP !

3G Cables
03-01-2005, 02:11 AM
Yeah, you will quickly discover they have been using the same earpeices, exterior displays, keys, and user interface...

At least other company's can grow :rolleyes:

I agree completely. The A700 compared to any Sanyo, come on now. The A700 is better in all categories except it doesn’t have a speaker phone or RL. The A700 is far better built both mechanically and electronically. Yes I have owned several of each (Sanyo and Samsung) and had every phone in my possession at one time as I was a tech for Sprint. There is no comparison at all in my opinion.

If Sanyo decided to get a better screen, FINALLY update their user interface and fonts, get a better keypad layout, and physically build their product better then they might have a leg to stand on with Samsung but they are far from it currently. All Samsung has to do is put a speakerphone and Ready-link in their phone and its over.

tbakergobuck
03-01-2005, 07:43 AM
I agree completely. The A700 compared to any Sanyo, come on now. The A700 is better in all categories except it doesn’t have a speaker phone or RL. The A700 is far better built both mechanically and electronically. Yes I have owned several of each (Sanyo and Samsung) and had every phone in my possession at one time as I was a tech for Sprint. There is no comparison at all in my opinion.

If Sanyo decided to get a better screen, FINALLY update their user interface and fonts, get a better keypad layout, and physically build their product better then they might have a leg to stand on with Samsung but they are far from it currently. All Samsung has to do is put a speakerphone and Ready-link in their phone and its over.

I disagree.. After owning both phones I'm more satisfied with the 7400 compared to the 700. The only thing I miss from the 700 is the sound quality. Which is very important to most of us on this site but the 7400 is not bad just not the best. Also I can use the 7400 in loud places which I couldn't with the 700. As far as build there totally different. I should try a drop test to the pavement and see which one comes out better. The 7400 is rock solid. My 700 flip seemed to get loose pretty quick. I like the click of the Sanyo's. The web is a lot better on the 7400. It's quicker with a lot less errors and it shows pictures. To me Sanyo's batteries don't seem to drain as fast as the Samsungs (when using the web). I guess I miss the camera on the 700 but neither are good. These are little things but I like the option to change the color of my phone and the flashlight comes in handy. So why when you go to a Sprint store most employees/managers push sanyo's? I think Sanyo's are less buggy and end the long run will hold up better. Your right with one thing about Samsung needs to get a speakerphone which should be a standard I think in every higher end phone but it looks like there still coming out without them. :eyeroll:

whiteshadow
03-01-2005, 11:06 AM
Other forum folks might get mad at me for replying to your message, considering there have been many posts regarding this topic. I understand your state, though, since I was once there. Here's my two cents:

The a700 is a good phone. It exceeds the 7400 in picture resolution with 1 meg. camera, and I believe the inner screen display is 262k vs. the 62/64k on the 7400. My numbers might be off, but you get the jist of it. The menu is spectacular on the a700, and the rings + aac ringer support is pleasing as well. However, these are things that the 7400 has, minus the breathtaking menu options.

The 7400 gets better reception. I don't care what anybody says; Sanyo knows what they're doing when it comes to the antennae with Sprint (possibly because they once made phones solely for Sprint). In addition to the ring qualities it shares with the 700, the 7400 has this option where it rings, and a voice id's the caller in the ring-whether it be a number annunciated by the lady, or a name pronounced by the robotic guy (if the name has been programmed into the phone) i.e. "incoming call from ---". It's funky in my opinion. In correlation with this feature, there's the asr (automatic sound recognition or something) thing which allows you to command a call or other functions at the prompt - no programming required for this one (in other words, no more practicing her name into the phone, and having troubles using the voice command when you have a cold). It recognizes any voice.

The 7400 also has a speakerphone...they say half-duplex which creates problems as far as sound emmitted and transmitted at the same time, yet, I've had NO problems. It's also readylink capable, and the changable faceplates serves as a nice option. Never thought I'd be the one to cater to the cosmetics of a phone, but so far I've rotated between the titanium (which it comes with), dark blue, and black onyx. They all look clean.

The 7400's video looks better to me than the 700's. The 700's seemed a little choppy. The 7400 has three different options for the video in terms of resolution, which ultimately has an effect on time of video. Anywhere from 15 seconds (which the 700 is limited to), to 30 seconds. I'm set on 20.

Multimedia...I can't really argue this point, since I never used it on the 700. I seen the demo in the stores with this phone, and if i recall correctly, they looked the same. One thing though...since the 700 doesn't have speakerphone, the sound comes from the earpiece. Not as loud, and a little concerning to the stability of the voice coils in the earpiece.

Altough the screen on the 700 is supposedly better, the 7400 looks quite crisp to me. All in all, I favor the 7400, simply because of the functionality this phone has to offer. The 700 is a good phone...I might add, the sound quality was a little clearer to me with the 700, but there's a bug with the noise distortion reducer, or whatever it is, that made it difficult to hear at times. My advice to you is go with the 7400 (it's an amazing phone), and if you don't like it, you've got 14 days to return it for the 700. In all honesty, if you can wait, the 5600 might be the way to go. Hope this helps. Easy.

silvert is pretty much on the money...I own and use both phones but I disagree with you that the 7400 has better reception than the 700..

tbakergobuck
03-01-2005, 12:50 PM
silvert is pretty much on the money...I own and use both phones but I disagree with you that the 7400 has better reception than the 700..

I forgot about that. By testing the db's my 7400 was slightly better than my 700. Were talking a few db's but that might keep you from dropping a call. I've had less than 5 dropped calls in 4 months. Yes I know about the 7400 dropped call bug but it's not like the 700 is flawless.

outofgum
03-01-2005, 02:11 PM
The biggest reason I got the 7400 is its a lot cheaper than the a700.

259.99 at Costco vs. 379.99 at Sprint.

The 700 does have a better camera, UI, and does look sleeker... but not that much so. For all the main things you do with a phone, they are on par: good reception, clear earpiece, fast vision, ability to use quality ringers.

Besides, I'm loving the rubberized exterior and speaker phone which none of my previous phones have had. I have to admit though that the camera is so bad that I'm just photoshopping pictures taken with a digital camera and uploading them for caller ID. Of course, no camera phone can compete with images from a DSLR. =)

3G Cables
03-01-2005, 02:18 PM
I disagree.. After owning both phones I'm more satisfied with the 7400 compared to the 700. The only thing I miss from the 700 is the sound quality. Which is very important to most of us on this site but the 7400 is not bad just not the best. Also I can use the 7400 in loud places which I couldn't with the 700. As far as build there totally different. I should try a drop test to the pavement and see which one comes out better. The 7400 is rock solid. My 700 flip seemed to get loose pretty quick. I like the click of the Sanyo's. The web is a lot better on the 7400. It's quicker with a lot less errors and it shows pictures. To me Sanyo's batteries don't seem to drain as fast as the Samsungs (when using the web). I guess I miss the camera on the 700 but neither are good. These are little things but I like the option to change the color of my phone and the flashlight comes in handy. So why when you go to a Sprint store most employees/managers push sanyo's? I think Sanyo's are less buggy and end the long run will hold up better. Your right with one thing about Samsung needs to get a speakerphone which should be a standard I think in every higher end phone but it looks like there still coming out without them. :eyeroll:

Since I use to work for Sprint I can give you a definitive answer. Sprint pushes Sanyo because they have more of a financial incentive to sell them. The product line of Sanyo has always been larger so of course when you look at numbers more people buy Sanyo because there is more of them. Then there is Ready Link. Sprint makes far more money off of activations and “gimmicks” than they do the hardware. They claim they LOSE money off the handset sale (personally I don’t buy that). But still, they make their money off of activations and extra plan adds such as Ready-Link. Since most Sanyo phones have Ready-link this is a huge incentive to push Sanyo. As far as bugginess and ruggedness I have to disagree. Samsung are built much better and survive better than Sanyo’s. And as working as a tech I saw far more Sanyo come back to the shop than Samsung.

whiteshadow
03-01-2005, 02:21 PM
I agree completely. The A700 compared to any Sanyo, come on now. The A700 is better in all categories except it doesn’t have a speaker phone or RL. The A700 is far better built both mechanically and electronically. Yes I have owned several of each (Sanyo and Samsung) and had every phone in my possession at one time as I was a tech for Sprint. There is no comparison at all in my opinion.

If Sanyo decided to get a better screen, FINALLY update their user interface and fonts, get a better keypad layout, and physically build their product better then they might have a leg to stand on with Samsung but they are far from it currently. All Samsung has to do is put a speakerphone and Ready-link in their phone and its over.

well said.............

tbakergobuck
03-01-2005, 02:35 PM
Since I use to work for Sprint I can give you a definitive answer. Sprint pushes Sanyo because they have more of a financial incentive to sell them. The product line of Sanyo has always been larger so of course when you look at numbers more people buy Sanyo because there is more of them. Then there is Ready Link. Sprint makes far more money off of activations and “gimmicks” than they do the hardware. They claim they LOSE money off the handset sale (personally I don’t buy that). But still, they make their money off of activations and extra plan adds such as Ready-Link. Since most Sanyo phones have Ready-link this is a huge incentive to push Sanyo. As far as bugginess and ruggedness I have to disagree. Samsung are built much better and survive better than Sanyo’s. And as working as a tech I saw far more Samsung come back to the shop than Sanyo.

I see.. I think you got the bottom part mixed up. You said you see more Samsung come back to the shop than Sanyo? I understand that you have exsprience working as a tech for Sprint. How long did you work there? I wonder want's deval's oppion on this is? I really don't care. I would buy a samsung tomorrow if I liked one. I think since Sanyo only deals with Sprint they have more time to thourghlly (sp) test the phones and make Sprint happy. Also dealing with both manufactures custormer service I had a better exsperinece with Sanyo. Preaveous sanyo phones might not held up as good as some of the samsungs but as far as the build of the 7400 compared to the 700 I don't think it's even close. The 7400 is built rugged the 700 is not. Have you tried the 7400 and for how long?

CoreyTheGent
03-01-2005, 02:38 PM
And as working as a tech I saw far more Samsung come back to the shop than Sanyo... Doesn't that go against everything you've been preaching?

You probably got the names mixed up, and if you did I've heard as well as seen with my own two that it's the exact opposite in terms of every other Tech I've known/talked to. They all say more Samsungs need fixing than Sanyos.

3G Cables
03-01-2005, 02:39 PM
.. Doesn't that go against everything you've been preaching?

Please check my edit. Bad typo which I have now fixed.

3G Cables
03-01-2005, 02:45 PM
I see.. I think you got the bottom part mixed up. You said you see more Samsung come back to the shop than Sanyo? I understand that you have exsprience working as a tech for Sprint. How long did you work there? I wonder want's deval's oppion on this is? I really don't care. I would buy a samsung tomorrow if I liked one. I think since Sanyo only deals with Sprint they have more time to thourghlly (sp) test the phones. Also dealing with both manufactures custormer service I had a better exsperinece with Sanyo. Preaveous sanyo phones might not held up as good as some of the samsungs but as far as the build of the 7400 compared to the 700 I don't think it's even close. The 7400 is built rugged the 700 is not. Have you tried the 7400 and for how long?

I worked as a tech for Sprint for about a year about a year ago. Prior to that I worked as a tech for Cingular for about a year. I know cell phones and the cell phone industry very well. I purchased my first cell phone in 1988 and have owned one ever since. All I can give people here is my educated and experienced opinion. I know not everyone will agree with it, but I think through my experiences I have a more experianced opinion than most. But again, I know there will be those that disagree and that is fine. As far as the rugged shell of the 7400 I agree with you but as far as the build quality, the A700 is much more rock solid. I used the 7400 for just a day and was very disappointed. The A700 as soon as I held it in my hand I could fell a huge quality difference. The key layout alone of Sanyo’s is enough for me not to feel comfortable with it. I think once people get use to a Sanyo they stick with it. Change is hard no matter what and it is easy and comfortable for people to go with what they are use to.

CoreyTheGent
03-01-2005, 02:46 PM
I don't know who's right and who's wrong. I just find it fascinating that people can have such strong opinions about something as simple as a cellphone. You've got people on each side coming with these passionate paragraphs saying the exact opposite of what the other is. Yet and still, somebody's either lying or exaggerating, at least when the line is drawn between opinion and fact.

From what I've seen and experienced personally, however, I'd count Sanyo as the stronger, more durable line of phones. Lol, I know I must look biased as all hell from my avatar, signature, etc. But I honestly don't care who wins between either Sanyo or Samsung as I'm a Motorola Man. Nor would I purposely mislead.

3G Cables
03-01-2005, 02:48 PM
.. Doesn't that go against everything you've been preaching?

You probably got the names mixed up, and if you did I've heard as well as seen with my own two that it's the exact opposite in terms of every other Tech I've known/talked to. They all say more Samsungs need fixing than Sanyos.

Not at our store which was an extremely high-volume store in downtown Los Angeles.

True for the OLDER Samsungs maybe but not Samsungs built within the last few years.

3G Cables
03-01-2005, 02:49 PM
I don't know who's right and who's wrong. I just find it fascinating that people can have such strong opinions about something as simple as a cellphone. You've got people on each side coming with these passionate paragraphs saying the exact opposite of what the other is. Yet and still, somebody's either lying or exaggerating, at least when the line is drawn between opinion and fact.

From what I've seen and experienced personally, however, I'd count Sanyo as the stronger, more durable line of phones. Lol, I know I must look biased as all hell from my avatar, signature, etc. But I honestly don't care who wins between either Sanyo or Samsung as I'm a Motorola Man. Nor would I purposely mislead.

Its ok, everyone has their own opinions :hee:

This is a cell phone forum so of course people are here to voice their opinions about cell phones. To some people, cell phones are a very personal subject.

Jaggrey
03-01-2005, 03:00 PM
you can mark me down for Sanyo. I've had my 7400 for about 3 months. I couldn't even have a stable Samsung for 3 months (3 680s and 2 700s... two completely different models).

But that's just my experience :p

tbakergobuck
03-01-2005, 03:08 PM
I worked as a tech for Sprint for about a year about a year ago. Prior to that I worked as a tech for Cingular for about a year. I know cell phones and the cell phone industry very well. I purchased my first cell phone in 1988 and have owned one ever since. All I can give people here is my educated and experienced opinion. I know not everyone will agree with it, but I think through my experiences I have a more experianced opinion than most. But again, I know there will be those that disagree and that is fine. As far as the rugged shell of the 7400 I agree with you but as far as the build quality, the A700 is much more rock solid. I used the 7400 for just a day and was very disappointed. The A700 as soon as I held it in my hand I could fell a huge quality difference. The key layout alone of Sanyo’s is enough for me not to feel comfortable with it. I think once people get use to a Sanyo they stick with it. Change is hard no matter what and it is easy and comfortable for people to go with what they are use to.

There totally different phones. I forgot on my 700 the rotating camera was getting loose. I didn't really care for it becaue I was always puting my finger right on the lens. I prefer fixed cameras. I guess a day of use with the 7400 with your background is enough. Though I know I've rushed judgement on phones before. If you could combine Sanyo and Samsung I think we might have a winner. So your not going to try out the 5600 when it's available?

3G Cables
03-01-2005, 03:13 PM
There totally different phones. I forgot on my 700 the rotating camera was getting loose. I didn't really care for it becaue I was always puting my finger right on the lens. I prefer fixed cameras. I guess a day of use with the 7400 with your background is enough. Though I know I've rushed judgement on phones before. If you could combine Sanyo and Samsung I think we might have a winner. So your not going to try out the 5600 when it's available?

I am actually very excited about the 5600. I HOPE that they have finally fixed their issues mainly the UI, terrible earpiece, and build quality. It appears that the build is much more resembling the Samsung as you can simply see by looking at it but the tactile test is going to be the real test. Again, all Samsung needs to do is put a speaker phone and ready link in their phones and I don’t think there would be any argument who has a better phone. But let’s not go there because it has not happened yet. Remember if you will the Samsung N400 which had a speaker phone. Best speakerphone I have ever heard. I don’t see why Samsung did not continue that speakerphone in all of their models. I am assuming it has to do with size limitations.

MsRandall
03-01-2005, 03:20 PM
When I was a Sprint manager I seen the exact opposite. In my store people wanted Sanyo and Samsung was the leader in coming back with issues and to be exchanged. I think the most important point is that people buy what they want and they are happy with.

I owned the Samsung a600 before I got my Sanyo 5500. Before the Samsung a600 I had the Sanyo 5300. Before that I had the Samsung a500. I am not brand loyal by my history. I buy what I like. In my opinion the Sanyo line has been good in my experience. The Samsung a600 was a good solid phone but I did have problems with reception with my a500. However if Samsung came out with a phone that I THOUGHT was a better phone than my 7400 I would at least try it.

All in all people should test phones and buy what is RIGHT for them ....which is more important than which is the best in terms of polls, user reviews, etc.....

3G Cables
03-01-2005, 03:31 PM
When I was a Sprint manager I seen the exact opposite. In my store people wanted Sanyo and Samsung was the leader in coming back with issues and to be exchanged. I think the most important point is that people buy what they want and they are happy with.

I owned the Samsung a600 before I got my Sanyo 5500. Before the Samsung a600 I had the Sanyo 5300. Before that I had the Samsung a500. I am not brand loyal by my history. I buy what I like. In my opinion the Sanyo line has been good in my experience. The Samsung a600 was a good solid phone but I did have problems with reception with my a500. However if Samsung came out with a phone that I THOUGHT was a better phone than my 7400 I would at least try it.

All in all people should test phones and buy what is RIGHT for them ....which is more important than which is the best in terms of polls, user reviews, etc.....


When did you work for Sprint and how long? Timing is everything here since in the last 2 years things have changed a lot.

You are exactly right. Whatever phone is good for the individual is the correct one for them. Unfortunately most people don’t have the means to test all the phones. Testing in a store with a "don’t steal me cord" attached is different than having the phone in your possession for a day or even a week.

Burrito75
03-01-2005, 06:50 PM
I've stayed away from the sanyo/samsung debates but the other day I was playing with my friend's samsung and I couldn't believe how much better the sanyo UI is. The samsung was sluggish and harder to use. I think the sanyo UI is great and I don't underastand the complaints.

MsRandall
03-01-2005, 06:50 PM
When did you work for Sprint and how long? Timing is everything here since in the last 2 years things have changed a lot.

You are exactly right. Whatever phone is good for the individual is the correct one for them. Unfortunately most people don’t have the means to test all the phones. Testing in a store with a "don’t steal me cord" attached is different than having the phone in your possession for a day or even a week.


I worked for Sprint from October 2002 to Feburary 2004....When I say test a phone ...I mean take it home and test it....I have done that in the past myself.

3G Cables
03-01-2005, 06:55 PM
I've stayed away from the sanyo/samsung debates but the other day I was playing with my friend's samsung and I couldn't believe how much better the sanyo UI is. The samsung was sluggish and harder to use. I think the sanyo UI is great and I don't underastand the complaints.

That is simply because you are use to it. I completely understand. I have been down that road before until I was forced to use all phones equally at my job with Sprint.

tuolumne
03-01-2005, 07:00 PM
I've stayed away from the sanyo/samsung debates but the other day I was playing with my friend's samsung and I couldn't believe how much better the sanyo UI is. The samsung was sluggish and harder to use. I think the sanyo UI is great and I don't underastand the complaints.

If you like a barren, strait foward, UI, look no farther than Sanyo. If you want a refined, animated, glitsy interface, Samsung has you calling.

tuolumne
03-01-2005, 07:01 PM
For the build quality debate, Samsung's always have higher quality materials and plastics. If you compare an A620 or A680 side by side with an 8200, I don't understand how anybody could say the latter is built better...

CoreyTheGent
03-01-2005, 07:59 PM
Maybe Sanyo uses better screws? Must be something else to the formula besides plastics.

tuolumne
03-01-2005, 08:01 PM
Maybe Sanyo uses better screws? Must be something else to the formula besides plastics.


physical build quality consists of materials used and how well it is constructed. From that standpoint, Samsung's are generally unrivled.

CoreyTheGent
03-01-2005, 08:04 PM
How wide of a spread does your use of "generally" cover? Let's get more precise here.

tuolumne
03-01-2005, 08:20 PM
At Sprint, unrivled
At Verizon, definitly unrivled
At Cingular, rivled by Nokia, Sony Ericcson and Motorola
At T-Mobile, unrivled

CoreyTheGent
03-01-2005, 08:23 PM
Is this your own personal opinion, though, or is it factual?

tuolumne
03-01-2005, 08:26 PM
What do you think Corey?

CoreyTheGent
03-01-2005, 08:29 PM
I'm not sure. I don't understand how you could form such a broad opinion with no basis to it. I mean, doesn't SE make good quality phones for Cingular? If Cingular Motorolas rival Samsungs, then why don't Verizon Motorolas? I just don't get it.

tbakergobuck
03-01-2005, 08:31 PM
The menus are nice on the 700 but I don't need fantsey ones to make me happy. I didn't even set my 700 to the fantsey menus because I like to see all them instead of scrolling through them. I would rather have more features than a snazy UI. But as msrandall said whatever works for you then go with it.

tuolumne
03-01-2005, 08:33 PM
I'm not sure. I don't understand how you could form such a broad opinion with no basis to it. I mean, doesn't SE make good quality phones for Cingular? If Cingular Motorolas rival Samsungs, then why don't Verizon Motorolas? I just don't get it.

Becasue the Motorola's at Verizon are garbage. You can see through the seems where the plastic is supposed to come together on the V260/265, and on the V710 you have missaligned camera lenses and a cheap battery door (worse than the Vxxx series). Speaking of the Vxxx series, they have excellent build quality (except for the V400 which felt very cheap on the front facia). I edited my post to include SE, whom I had forgotton about.

tuolumne
03-01-2005, 08:34 PM
The menus are nice on the 700 but I don't need fantsey ones to make me happy. I didn't even set my 700 to the fantsey menus because I like to see all them instead of scrolling through them. I would rather have more features than a snazy UI. But as msrandall said whatever works for you then go with it.

So if a speakerphone works for you, GET IT!. If a 1MP rotating camera and 262K screen work for you, GET IT!

sel1965
03-01-2005, 08:36 PM
I had an A700 for about a month after that couldn't stand it went back to Sanyo! A MM7400 so what does that say! I have used Sammy's Sanyo's LG's, Audiovox, Sony's and I am going to stick with the Sanyo! If you are debating the A700 to the 7400 you should just hold out till the 5600 comes out because it will be the number 1 Sprint phone out! No matter what anyone else says this phone is going to be a good one.

tuolumne
03-01-2005, 08:38 PM
geeze, talk about being overly overzealous!

sel1965
03-01-2005, 08:55 PM
geeze, talk about being overly overzealous!

Gee I wonder who you think I sound like? :)

tuolumne
03-01-2005, 09:00 PM
Gee I wonder who you think I sound like? :)

A raging 5 year old who wants to show everybody their new drawing. That's what you sound like.

sel1965
03-01-2005, 09:04 PM
A raging 5 year old who wants to show everybody their new drawing. That's what you sound like.

I thought I sounded pretty much like you! That's kinda funny though coming from you! :hee:

goddess9
03-01-2005, 09:14 PM
Touche, tuolumne. You're beat.

You can't deny that doesn't sound like you.

CoreyTheGent
03-01-2005, 09:16 PM
Nah, I don't think so. It was too upfront. tuolumne is James Bond with his.

goddess9
03-01-2005, 09:25 PM
LOL...true that.

3G Cables
03-01-2005, 10:23 PM
I had an A700 for about a month after that couldn't stand it went back to Sanyo! A MM7400 so what does that say! I have used Sammy's Sanyo's LG's, Audiovox, Sony's and I am going to stick with the Sanyo! If you are debating the A700 to the 7400 you should just hold out till the 5600 comes out because it will be the number 1 Sprint phone out! No matter what anyone else says this phone is going to be a good one.

You have no idea how well the 5600 will perform or its construction so please wait until it comes out before pretending to be a fortune teller. Lets go on facts here not fantasy.

It very well may be Sprints #1 phone or very well may be the worst phone due to a bug in the OS. We wont know until it comes out.

3G Cables
03-01-2005, 10:26 PM
Is this your own personal opinion, though, or is it factual?

It is factual. I have had the unique experience to have dealt with all phone makes and models on a daily basis. I also owned a SE phone (t68i). Worst construction I have ever seen in a cell phone. It should have had a logo on it saying, “Fischer Price” because that is exactly how it felt.

CoreyTheGent
03-01-2005, 10:29 PM
It is factual. I have had the unique experience to have dealt with all phone makes and models on a daily basis. I also owned a SE phone (t68i). Worst construction I have ever seen in a cell phone. It should have had a logo on it saying, “Fischer Price” because that is exactly how it felt.

When I was a Sprint manager I seen the exact opposite. In my store people wanted Sanyo and Samsung was the leader in coming back with issues and to be exchanged.You see what I'm saying, 3G? None of it's factual, infact there are more people in the business saying what she said than what you said.

3G Cables
03-01-2005, 10:33 PM
You see what I'm saying, 3G? None of it's factual, infact there are more people in the business saying what she said than what you said.

But what you don’t understand is I was the one that actually repaired the phones and did all the DHRP’s (Direct Handset Returns), not the ones in the front with all kinds of excuses just to get a new phone. There is a lot more to it than that. When it comes down to it the TECH knows what phones are really performing poorly or not. The argument is now finished…

CoreyTheGent
03-01-2005, 10:35 PM
The argument is now finished…Oh, I beg to differ, 3G. It hasn't even begun.

3G Cables
03-01-2005, 10:37 PM
Oh, I beg to differ, 3G. It hasn't even begun.

ok, hehe. Continue your rambling. There is no way you can say you have more valid information than being a tech for Sprint handling returns and phone problems on a daily basis.

tuolumne
03-01-2005, 11:13 PM
3G, I think he's referring to Deval (Tech) praising Sanyo return rates, and referring to Samsung as a company who can "barely make a working CDMA handset"

tbakergobuck
03-01-2005, 11:59 PM
just for ****s and gigles I got to go make a payment at the Sprint store tomorrow so I'll check with a sprint tech I know to see his input about which manufacture he gets the most DHRP’s. I'll have him ask other techs there oppions as well. Who know's maybe it's a fluke thing at the store that 3G worked at.

tuolumne
03-02-2005, 12:03 AM
Most reps like Sanyo's better, period

3G Cables
03-02-2005, 12:04 AM
Most reps like Sanyo's better, period

reps are mostly SALES people not techs :hee:

CoreyTheGent
03-02-2005, 12:05 AM
tbaker said techs and nothing about reps.

Continue with your plans, tbaker. I like the idea. I'm gonna gather some info myself and document every single thing.

MsRandall
03-02-2005, 12:07 AM
Actually as a manager I often spent time in the back with my tech doing tech work ( maybe about 40% since we had one tech for a busy store)...upgrades, dhrp orders, stocking, testing etc....so I was not a manager in the front only.....I could do all the stuff in the back too and loved to test phones, do software upgrades, phonebook swaps,etc

From my experience in my former store: Sanyo handsets rarely came back....In your store it was the Samsung ......I am not here to dispute what you are saying just offer another store trend.

The Samsung vs Sanyo debate is sooo stupid and pointless...I could careless what someone else thinks is the best...when I think the better question is what is BEST for me. Just my 5 cents

tbakergobuck
03-02-2005, 12:12 AM
I was wondering why he said that Corey. I'm specualting but I think some reps push Sanyos because the bleave in there product. I usally see sprint sales reps with sanyo's. But from what 3G said it's becasue there just trying to push ready-link features. Oh well..

3G Cables
03-02-2005, 12:12 AM
Actually as a manager I often spent time in the back with my tech doing tech work ( maybe about 40% since we had one tech for a busy store)...upgrades, dhrp orders, stocking, testing etc....so I was not a manager in the front only.....I could do all the stuff in the back too and loved to test, do software upgrades,etc....

From my experience in my former store is was Sanyo handsets that rarely came back....In your store it was the Samsung ......I am not here to dispute what you are saying just offer another store trend.

The Samsung vs Sanyo debate is sooo stupid and pointless...I could careless what someone else thinks is the best...when I think the better question is what is BEST for me. Just my 5 cents

I feel the same way msrandall. I think it is crazy how much time people will waste on trying to prove one or the other wrong when it comes down to a matter of opinion.

If someone came out with documents saying one or hundreds of stores came back with mostly Samsung returns it still wouldn’t matter.

Have fun guys on your quest to prove Sanyo’s are “better”. My opinion and the opinion of many others will not change because we have based it on our own experiences.

tbakergobuck
03-02-2005, 12:32 AM
I feel the same way msrandall. I think it is crazy how much time people will waste on trying to prove one or the other wrong when it comes down to a matter of opinion.

If someone came out with documents saying one or hundreds of stores came back with mostly Samsung returns it still wouldn’t matter.

Have fun guys on your quest to prove Sanyo’s are “better”. My opinion and the opinion of many others will not change because we have based it on our own experiences.

I'm not trying to make anybody mad. 3G you are entiltled to your oppion but from what I read you only want to look at your exsperience not other stores. To me it's not really about which manufacture is better. I would buy a Samusng tomorrow if I liked it. I just want find out what other Sprint techs say on which manufacture has the most DHRP’s.

CoreyTheGent
03-02-2005, 12:33 AM
Have fun guys on your quest to prove Sanyo’s are “better”. My opinion and the opinion of many others will not change because we have based it on our own experiences.Don't try to get all Pillsbury on me now, 3G. Lift that shirt up and let me poke your stomach, huh?

There is a difference between opinion and fact. You stated earlier that it's a fact that Samsung phones are better made and get the least amount of returns. I'm not doing this to prove Sanyo is better, it is a fact that I could care less and prefer Motorola. I'm gonna do it just to prove that there's no such thing as such a fact when it comes to this debate and what you said was simply a matter of A) Your biased opinion and B) You being a product of your environment.

I know you're not as sure now and therefore have acted first by already making disparaging remarks about what I'll come with before I even come with it. It's all good. I'm not doing it to change your mind, I'm doing it for some consumer that might come across this thread and think your word is bond because you're a "Tech." I'm doing it for some child that might lose faith in Sanyo upon reading your words. I'm doing it for those who aren't alive today and can't do it for me. Somebody has to do it, and if that task has fallen upon my shoulders, then damnit it's gonna get done.

I declare war. First, I must sleep.

tbakergobuck
03-02-2005, 12:45 AM
:good: Well said :D

sel1965
03-02-2005, 01:02 AM
You have no idea how well the 5600 will perform or its construction so please wait until it comes out before pretending to be a fortune teller. Lets go on facts here not fantasy.

It very well may be Sprints #1 phone or very well may be the worst phone due to a bug in the OS. We wont know until it comes out.

Have you ever heard of OPINION! It will be a very good phone for Sprint!

sel1965
03-02-2005, 01:12 AM
Don't try to get all Pillsbury on me now, 3G. Lift that shirt up and let me poke your stomach, huh?

There is a difference between opinion and fact. You stated earlier that it's a fact that Samsung phones are better made and get the least amount of returns. I'm not doing this to prove Sanyo is better, it is a fact that I could care less and prefer Motorola. I'm gonna do it just to prove that there's no such thing as such a fact when it comes to this debate and what you said was simply a matter of A) Your biased opinion and B) You being a product of your environment.

I know you're not as sure now and therefore have acted first by already making disparaging remarks about what I'll come with before I even come with it. It's all good. I'm not doing it to change your mind, I'm doing it for some consumer that might come across this thread and think your word is bond because you're a "Tech." I'm doing it for some child that might lose faith in Sanyo upon reading your words. I'm doing it for those who aren't alive today and can't do it for me. Somebody has to do it, and if that task has fallen upon my shoulders, then damnit it's gonna get done.

I declare war. First, I must sleep.

AWSOME POST! Telling it like it is! There are several people on here I hope will read this post! There are about 3 sprint stores in my area that is very close to me, I have friends in all of them and the majority of the reps or techs carry Sanyo phones. There are a few that have Samsungs there are a few that carry the LG slider and maybe 1 or 2 I have seen with the Audiovox phones. So everyone has thier preferences like MS Randle said it's what is good for you that matters who cares what someone else likes!

sneak
03-02-2005, 02:17 AM
Comparing Sanyos to Samsungs, eh? Let me get my post in before this thread is locked.
I've been selling Sprint for over 2 years now. I was around when Vision came about. I've seen the good, bad, and ugly (LG 4NE1) when it comes to Sprint phones. I'm sick of this useless babble usually fed by Tuolumne starting something like "The Sanyo doesn't ." Then he runs off and gets defensive. Its gone on long enough. Here's my thoughts.

What's Sprint's best handset manufacturer? Sanyo. Next? Nokia or Samsung.

Why does Sanyo get the #1 place? Simply because they can put more effort into testing and R&D than Samsung can in the US CDMA market. Samsung is heavy into GSM as well, and this clearly must divert attention from their CDMA side.

Do I dislike Samsung/Nokia/LG? No. I've owned the a500. Our store used the a680 and now uses the a700 as our demo lines. I am familiar with Samsung. I've owned Nokias, played with Sprint's offerings (3858i, 3588i, 6225, but not the 3205 yet -- but I did play with the GSM variant, the 3200, and I wasn't impressed).

I do not think Nokia is serious about committing to the US CDMA networks. Their CDMA phones still use 4096k color screens, which died with the 4900 years ago. Their RF performance is usally great, but if we are comparing higher-end products, Nokia offers nothing.

LG's Sprint offerings were terrible prior the the VI5225. This is hands-down the best VI phone released yet. The a660 doesn't have external caller-ID, a must in my book. And it can't vibrate, as with the rest of the Samsungs (well, I guess they do, but I can't feel them in my pocket).

The LG VI5225 slaps the a660 to the ground, then mutilates it. It's RF performance is astounding, its bug-free, and was an excellent entry-level handset.

I used to use opinions on this board as my judgement on phones. I have stopped doing such. My experiences with the LG PM325 are adaquet: I do not like this phone. First off, BT is useless [i]to me. Sure, I'm gonna get a Moto BT headset for my v551, but I want to sync. I want DUN. I want OBEX. Sorry LG, but you dropped the ball. I haven't tested RF performance, but apparently it's average. The phone feels extremely flimsy to me (not how I put to me in there, Tuolumne). I have a sick feeling all of those 325s are going to break within 1-2 years.

Samsung: good ol' Samsung. They are honestly hit-and-miss with the Sprint lineup. I hated the N400, A500, and N270. They were trashy, bug-infested monsters. Their RF performance was beyond sub-par. I went through 3 a500s in 6 months. First one: died on powerup. Second one: no audio. Third one: wouldn't turn on. Finally the gracious Sprint Store rep gave me an 8100 free of charge, because our Best Buy store hooked him up the previous week with a home-theater system.

The a6xx lines were also hit and miss. The a600 is loved by many, and I don't mind it. The a620 was, in my opinion a great phone upon release, but lived way too long. The a660 was junk, as previously mentioned. It's RF performance sucked. The a620 got average performance, and the a600 seemed to do pretty well. Lets not forget the "beeping"{ bug on the a620, okay?

The a680 was Sprint's best Samsung handset, I believe. Its RF performance was amazing, its size was right, but unfortunately, it suffered from Samsungitis (Samsung's infamous bugs). I will never own the a680. I love the RF performance, but its got the brains of a dead-hooker: all looks and nothing to back it up (IMO!!).

Now the a7xx line. I cannot stand the a700. Its UI is painfully slow. Calling on the handset is excrutiating, and I always use our store's landline to activate over using that thing. But hey, its my opinion of it. I cannot hold a call on it, regardless. Never used the a760. I do, however, like the a740. I think it seems very well built, gets adequate RF performance (but not a680-level). Unfortunately, the STN screen turned me off. Why Samsung did you include that stupid STN screen?

Sanyo. This name means more to the Sprint community than it does likely throughout the rest of the USA and the global market. Sanyo has a reputation for quality since... well since the 4xxx and 6xxx lines. I still see many people with 4700s refusing to upgrade even with them being eligible.

The 4900: the best 4xxx series handset to date. No, it wasn't great for Vision usage. It had a 1/2 duplex speaker. And that ugly STN screen. But man, that thing sucked in RF dBms better than any phone I've ever seen. And it was bug-free. Unfortunately, I cannot consider the 4920 a successor: the size of the 4900 was a draw to many people, as was the screen size. Unfortunately, Sanyo dropped the ball here. But it does get great RF, albeit a bit under what the 4900 was capable of.

The 7xxx series of phones are great! I've never seen one come in broken into pieces. They are designed to last. The 7200 was the truest successor to the 4900 to date. The 7300 was a great RL-launch phone. Its screen and speaker made it popular with just about anyone coming in to look at phones. The 7400 follows the 7300s footsteps (albeit bigger footsteps). The faceplates are an awesome idea, and very well designed. MM capability is neat, as well. 30 seconds of video puts the Samsungs in their place. And.. its relatively bug-free.

The 5xxx series line is known as Sprint's flagship models. I remember when the 5300 came out -- the first Sprint cameraphone??! Amazing. I played with my buddy's all the time. Vision was so cool and fresh back then -- I was amazed to play Ms. Pac-Man on it, a thrill I can no longer get with any Vision games, albeit JamDat Soliaire and possible Tetris and JamDat Bowling 2. The 5150 I never played with too much -- but I do still see quite a few people toting them around.

The 5400 and 5500 cemented Sprints reputation as a technology leader. The 5500 was groundbreaking, with video and ReadyLink, a feat Samsung still hasn't toppled over a year later. Yeah, the 5500 hardware 0101 had bugs. But it was fixed -- something I can't say about most of the Samsungs I have played with ("beeping" a620).

The 5600 will crush.

The 8xxx series fits a great chunk of the market, and will thrive for the forseeable future.

So there you have it, my opinions on Sprint's handsets, basically most of the Vision handsets released thus far. Am I brand-loyal? No. I'm thinking I'll get the Samsung a670 when I get my free Verizon account. It beats the snot out of the v265 and I can't stand the looks of the vx6100. So there, Tuolumne, I'm not bashing your company, just some of it's Sprint lineup.

Just remember: don't let other people speak your mind. Make it up yourself. Be informed before posting. Play with the phones at a Sprint store or Best Buy. Get a feel for them. Then post. Not the other way around.

Andy

Ted
03-02-2005, 08:51 AM
Most reps like Sanyo's better, period

maybe this is why...

http://www.jdpower.com/cc/telecom/jdpa_ratings/wireless/Find.jsp?s=6

RattDawg
03-02-2005, 06:49 PM
Ok without the speakerphone and changable faceplates who would still pick the 7400 and why? My first 7400 caught the "signal fade" bug after being great for 2 months. I got the replacment on Thursday and I think the sound quality is alot more distorted than the first one I had. So I am strongly considering calling CS to see if I can get it replaced with a 700. Folks in the Sprint store seem to be sceptical when you tell them you have a problem with a phone.
Love the 7400 but I really would like to find a Sprint phone that has the quality to match the price. Paid the full $379 plus tax, thats alot of bones.

CoreyTheGent
03-02-2005, 06:54 PM
Anyway you could call telesales and get that money applied to your 7400 upon returning it?

Otherwise, knowing your situation, I'd forget about the 7400 already and get the a700. You've been through this far too many times. Having to go back and forth with 6 different phones is utterly ridiculous.

RattDawg
03-02-2005, 08:25 PM
Ehhh... Think Im just gonna grin and bear it till I can talk the wife into letting me shell out the bucks on a 5600. Im just thinking after the mess of phones Ive been through, Im just feeling a little let down by my trusty 7400...lol. After doing some reading up on the 700 sounds like it has some of the same bugs that plauge every other Samsung Ive had (echo, noise cancellation). Besides 5600 is looking better and better. Just hope the reveiws come in great.

CoreyTheGent
03-02-2005, 08:29 PM
It's alright. I'm sure sooner or later, your husband will let you purchase the 5600.

RattDawg
03-02-2005, 08:31 PM
It's alright. I'm sure sooner or later, your husband will let you purchase the 5600.
Um husband? :eek: Get some glasses man. :hee:

tuolumne
03-02-2005, 09:40 PM
maybe this is why...

http://www.jdpower.com/cc/telecom/jdpa_ratings/wireless/Find.jsp?s=6
No that's not why. Most reps still think Sanyo's have superior reception to everything.

 
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