Bluetooth Headsets

[dprout69]

Gonna get the ppc6600 when it comes out.
my question...

Is it not possible to hook up a bluetooth headset to a pda phone and without touching said pda phone, to simply push a button on the headset and say "dial 407 555 1212" and the phone dials. What am I missing because it seems like all you can do is answer a call with the headset, but not place a call out with the headset.

I know the ppc6600 does not have voice command per se so I would imagine I would have to buy software or is there software that comes with the headset or is this just too complex a subject for the engineers fragile little minds to conceive that hands free means hands free? Any suggestions would help. Thanks.

[mcurtiss1970]

it all has to do with the phone...not the headset.

[chrisngrod]

I would imagine most phones with bluetooth would allow you to do this. The t608 will.

[mcurtiss1970]

I would imagine most phones with bluetooth would allow you to do this. The t608 will.
like i said, it depends on the phone and not the headset. if the phone has onetouch voice dialing, the headset *should* allow it if it has a turbo button kind of setup.

[chrisngrod]

I'm just giving him hope.

[dprout69]

it all has to do with the phone...not the headset.
OK, so if there are no drivers that headsets can include to allow them to voice dial in say wm2003 then is there any software out there that you put on the phone to esstentialy cause the phone to "listen" for the bluetooth headset and its voice dial command (seems to me that would be from the headset vendor)? Even if voice dialing is not an active part of the headset I could still put voice command from M$ onto a phone and could voice dial (except I would have to push a button). I am trying to eliminate the "pushing the button" on the phone thing so that the phone could be in the other room and I just "push the button" on the headset.

[mcurtiss1970]

OK, so if there are no drivers that headsets can include to allow them to voice dial in say wm2003 then is there any software out there that you put on the phone to esstentialy cause the phone to "listen" for the bluetooth headset and its voice dial command (seems to me that would be from the headset vendor)? Even if voice dialing is not an active part of the headset I could still put voice command from M$ onto a phone and could voice dial (except I would have to push a button). I am trying to eliminate the "pushing the button" on the phone thing so that the phone could be in the other room and I just "push the button" on the headset.
maybe i'm in over my head on this, but i don't think its a driver thing.

basically, the BT headset needs to be paired up with the phone. once paired, it acts like a normal headset. if the phone has voice dial , you use the turbo-button on the BT headset to initiate the call.

on the flipside, if you have a turbo-button headset on a phone with no voice dial, the button is useless. that's where i think you are. It doesn't sound like your phone has voicedial built it. the headset manufactureer would have nothing to offer in that case.

[chrisngrod]

First you don't even know if there is a problem yet (I know I try to analyze problems before they erupt also). Have you checked with anyone that has the device yet?


Edited to add: mcurtiss1970 I think you're right on point with this. I have to note again that he doesn't even have the phone yet!

[dprout69]

I'm just giving him hope.
WE'RE DOOMED - DOOMED I TELL YOU.

[dprout69]

maybe i'm in over my head on this, but i don't think its a driver thing.

basically, the BT headset needs to be paired up with the phone. once paired, it acts like a normal headset. if the phone has voice dial , you use the turbo-button on the BT headset to initiate the call.

on the flipside, if you have a turbo-button headset on a phone with no voice dial, the button is useless. that's where i think you are. It doesn't sound like your phone has voicedial built it. the headset manufactureer would have nothing to offer in that case.
ok - so there is no software manufactured that can simulate allowing the turbo dial is what you are saying? If I don't have voice dial on the phone, I can't put any software on it to make a bluetooth headset voicedial - well now that just sux. So there is no way to voice dial on PPC6600 without having to hit a button on the phone itself. Sigh

[dprout69]

First you don't even know if there is a problem yet (I know I try to analyze problems before they erupt also). Have you checked with anyone that has the device yet?


Edited to add: mcurtiss1970 I think you're right on point with this. I have to note again that he doesn't even have the phone yet!
I know the ppc6601 does not have voice capabilities so I seriously doubt they are going to add it for the PPC6600

[mcurtiss1970]

ok - so there is no software manufactured that can simulate allowing the turbo dial is what you are saying? If I don't have voice dial on the phone, I can't put any software on it to make a bluetooth headset voicedial - well now that just sux. So there is no way to voice dial on PPC6600 without having to hit a button on the phone itself. Sigh
i'm not saying anything either way. i'm just saying that it's not the headset. thus, no headset manufacturer will be able to help you. it must be the phone people who can help you.

[dprout69]

i'm not saying anything either way. i'm just saying that it's not the headset. thus, no headset manufacturer will be able to help you. it must be the phone people who can help you.
It would just seem to me that like anything else that you purchase, the person putting the item out would have to instantiate the driver for the item. As in if I buy a hard drive, they supply the driver - if I buy an mp3 player, they supply the driver, if I buy a bluetooth headset no one supplies the driver??? :huh:

[mcurtiss1970]

if I buy a bluetooth headset no one supplies the driver??? :huh:
no driver required

[dprout69]

no driver required

Hoos on first? Watts on second. Third Base.

Ok again to post this...
- I am looking to take my pda phone (PPC6600) which does not support voice dialing.
- I am looking to purchase a BT800 which does support voice dialing.
- I am looking to make it possible to make a call from the headset without having to touch a button on the actual pda phone a la M$ voice command.

With M$ voice command (and other software) you can voice dial but you have to touch a button on the phone to get it to listen. Me no want to touchy phone!!! Is there a way, somewhere out there in which this can be done? I can't believe no one has designed bluetooth headsets to operate this way as a standard feature - I should be able to hit the button on a headset and say dial 555 1212 and the headset connects to the phone and dials out. Are we living in the stone age peoples??? The Jabra BT800 and Jabra BT110 support voice dialing but it is phone dependent. I don't believe they don't design their headsets to work on any phone with just the addition of some software. Damn them... damn them all

[mcurtiss1970]

ok, I'll repeat myself.

it's not the headset. it never was the headset. it'll never be the headset. lot's of headsets (BT and wired) use turbo-buttons. not all phones have voicedialing. so all those headset makers should develop software for them? not likely.

and about the software. why should headset makers develop software for limited number of palm-based, windows based, symbian based phones?

basically, the onus is on the phone maker to supply voice dial.if not, then a third party needs to develop it.

i'd say that I feel your pain, but you don't even own the phone yet.

[dprout69]

ok, I'll repeat myself.

it's not the headset. it never was the headset. it'll never be the headset. lot's of headsets (BT and wired) use turbo-buttons. not all phones have voicedialing. so all those headset makers should develop software for them? not likely.

and about the software. why should headset makers develop software for limited number of palm-based, windows based, symbian based phones?

basically, the onus is on the phone maker to supply voice dial.if not, then a third party needs to develop it.

i'd say that I feel your pain, but you don't even own the phone yet.
You can repeat yourself as much as you want but you are the only one stuck on the headseat. I am saying is there a resolution? Headset, software, operating system or otherwise.

The phone is the physical application which has an operating system layered on top (windows mobile 2003). Much as when you go to buy a cd drive, mp3 player, camera or what have you for your home desktop, that hardware doesn't interact with the physical components of the desktop itself, it interacts with the operating system thru a driver. The driver allows the mp3 player, cd drive or camera etc to operate with the operating system and the OS then talks to the physical hardware. The phone manufacturer only needs to talk to the OS not design a headset or software for each phone.

Whether or not I own the 6600 has nothing to do with anything, it doesn't support voice dialing I know the specs. You need to add something to it such as voice commander from M$, fonix or voice command from sprint but none of these appear to offer the ability to initiate a voice dial from the headset UNLESS YOU PUSH A BUTTON ON THE PHONE ITSELF and then the headset can handle the call. The button push on the phone is the process I am trying to bypass. The BT800 supports voice dial but the phone would need to support it as well and be able to "listen" to the headset without hitting a button on the phone. Pulling teeth man.

[mcurtiss1970]

i totally get what you're saying. and the only resolution is in the phone. i kept on the headset aspect because of your words.

The Jabra BT800 and Jabra BT110 support voice dialing but it is phone dependent. I don't believe they don't design their headsets to work on any phone with just the addition of some software
maybe i misunderstood but i took it to mean "headset software" provided by the headset company. this was in conjunction with you talking about "drivers"- which BT headsets do not need.

so yeah, you would need some third party app to use the voice dialing asyou want, unless MS decided to make the software itself. this app will not come from headset manufacturers though. that was my point.

[dprout69]

so yeah, you would need some third party app to use the voice dialing asyou want
:hee: you're killing me man - hence the initial question of this thread - anyone know if this can be done or if there is software etc??? I need a resolution. Thanks

[mcurtiss1970]

well, then my bad. you were talking about BT drivers and headsets providing software and why headsets should be voice dial compatable with all phones.......all of it not really addressing what you wanted.

http://www.fonix.com/page.cfm?name=product_fonix_voicedial&ID=14 (http://www.download.com/VoiceDial/3000-2153_4-10249960.html?tag=lst-0-2)

something like this?

[dprout69]

well, then my bad. you were talking about BT drivers and headsets providing software and why headsets should be voice dial compatable with all phones.......all of it not really addressing what you wanted.

http://www.fonix.com/page.cfm?name=product_fonix_voicedial&ID=14 (http://www.download.com/VoiceDial/3000-2153_4-10249960.html?tag=lst-0-2)

something like this?
I am at work right now I'll have to check it when I get out but I thought from what I read you need to hit a button on the phone with fonix. Thanks though - if you come across anything else let me know

[mcurtiss1970]

From the Fonix website:

"Fonix VoiceDial is a totally interactive, hands-free software application that enables you to place calls by number or by contact. Simply speak the number or name to call, and VoiceDial does the rest. It's that easy!

Best of all, there's no voice training required. VoiceDial puts the power of speech into phone dialing with minimal user demands — in the car, at home, in the office — anytime you want a better, safer and easier way to dial your contacts. "

[dprout69]

From the Fonix website:

"Fonix VoiceDial is a totally interactive, hands-free software application that enables you to place calls by number or by contact. Simply speak the number or name to call, and VoiceDial does the rest. It's that easy!

Best of all, there's no voice training required. VoiceDial puts the power of speech into phone dialing with minimal user demands — in the car, at home, in the office — anytime you want a better, safer and easier way to dial your contacts. "
That's pretty much what M$ voice commander says but then from talking to people you find out a button on the phone needs to be assigned and pressed to initiate the call. I'll have to write customer service at fonix and find out because I don't know of anyone that has it. Anyone out there have fonix? Thanks.