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Tiburon
09-18-2004, 06:17 PM
I currently have the Samsung a-680 and love it but the new Treo 650 is looking impossible to pass up.

I have same basic noob questions about it, though -

1. Can I browse any website with it?
2. If it has bluetooth, do I still need vision to check email? I'm a little lost on the advantages to bluetooth - can someone fill me in on what this will help me do?
3. I heard something about not being able to text message with the 600 - are there problems with that?

I am a little confused as to how to maximize the 650 with Sprint's service - mainly, what all does bluetooth let me do? Sorry for the noob questions and thank you for your response.

angrytaxman
09-19-2004, 09:56 AM
I currently have the Samsung a-680 and love it but the new Treo 650 is looking impossible to pass up.

I have same basic noob questions about it, though -

1. Can I browse any website with it?
2. If it has bluetooth, do I still need vision to check email? I'm a little lost on the advantages to bluetooth - can someone fill me in on what this will help me do?
3. I heard something about not being able to text message with the 600 - are there problems with that?

I am a little confused as to how to maximize the 650 with Sprint's service - mainly, what all does bluetooth let me do? Sorry for the noob questions and thank you for your response.

Hi there Tiburon,

1. You can browse many websites with it, but not all. It will not display Flash, and it slightly distorts websites to fit on it's smaller low resolution screen (compared to your computers monitor). Don't get me wrong though, it's definitely usable for browsing 80%+ of the sites on the internet.
2. Bluetooth doesn't replace vision. Vision is basically internet service for your phone from Sprint. Bluetooth is a wireless technology that allows your phone to connect to other bluetooth devices. So basically if you have a bluetooth module on your computer you could synchronize your data wirelessly. Also some cars now have bluetooth built in, which means that your cars stereo system becomes a sort of wireless headset for you to use. All of your car's speakers become the earpiece and the car has a built in microphone that picks up your voice. Other advantages of bluetooth are that you can wirelessly synch data with other bluetooth devices like other phones and pda's.
3. I've never had a problem sending a text message with my treo 600, so I don't foresee any problems with the treo 650.

sprint user
09-20-2004, 11:03 AM
there are tons of rumors flying around on the Treo 650/ACE hardware capabilites. One of them is that the bluetooth will be limited to the headset profile (handsfree headset or car kit) only b/c CDMA carriers are worried about the abuse of their highspeed networks. Again these are only rumors and nothing has been officially announced by any carrier yet. The 600 works just fine for txt msg, no need for extra apps or short mail. Where the ACE will really shine is with the new high resolution screen, able to display twice the pixels of the current Treo 600 and 64k colors. The camera has also been enhanced to a 1.3MP so you can get larger (hopefully clearer) pictures.

winger
09-29-2004, 02:08 PM
to highlight the 600, a user can send text msgs (SMS) WHILE on a phone call. Not all phones can do this. Now, this is a good feauture to have. I hope the ACE will follow.

truckinusa
09-29-2004, 03:32 PM
Wirelessly posted (UPG1 UP/4.0 (compatible; Blazer 1.0))

1.Not a substitute for IE. The browser works fine for most basic browsing though.
2. Bluetooth is more popular overseas where u can buy sodas with the cell phone. Its a low power usage wi-fi that's better suited for cell phones and pdas.
3.SMS should work
There's just a lot of great sofrware for chat, news, email, network admin which use the internet capability.

choile
09-30-2004, 02:26 PM
Can the Treo 600 or 650 be connected using wi-fi? What I mean is can the Treo 600 or 650 access the web/email using a wireless network 802.11 b/g like a centrino laptop?

If not, is there a cell phone out there that have this capabiltity?

zaphod
09-30-2004, 04:03 PM
Can the Treo 600 or 650 be connected using wi-fi? What I mean is can the Treo 600 or 650 access the web/email using a wireless network 802.11 b/g like a centrino laptop?PalmOne sells a wireless SD card for about $129.00. The Treo itself cannot connect via wi-fi.

DaMan
09-30-2004, 04:39 PM
PalmOne sells a wireless SD card for about $129.00. The Treo itself cannot connect via wi-fi.
That card won't work. The SD slot is I/O, but there are no drivers yet. This is all conjecture as the device has not yet been released.

choile
09-30-2004, 05:32 PM
So is Sprint PCS going to come out with a cell phone that is capable of wireless network 802.11 b?

An ideal phone would include WiFi and the capability of Treo 600. I would pay over $700 for the phone.

zaphod
09-30-2004, 05:33 PM
That card won't work. The SD slot is I/O, but there are no drivers yet. This is all conjecture as the device has not yet been released.Good point. I was assuming......but we all know about assuming......

labluver
11-01-2004, 06:03 PM
So is Sprint PCS going to come out with a cell phone that is capable of wireless network 802.11 b?

An ideal phone would include WiFi and the capability of Treo 600. I would pay over $700 for the phone.



I'm confused. If you have Sprint PCS and a Treo, then why do you want WiFi? The internet is built into the Treo and with Sprint Vision, you get unlimited internet for $15/month. This is much cheaper than any WiFi plan except for the rare "free" hot spots. :confused:

DaMan
11-02-2004, 08:10 AM
I'm confused. If you have Sprint PCS and a Treo, then why do you want WiFi? The internet is built into the Treo and with Sprint Vision, you get unlimited internet for $15/month. This is much cheaper than any WiFi plan except for the rare "free" hot spots. :confused:
Don't bring up this question on TreoCentral or you will be bombarded with flames. It has been discussed ad nauseum over there. Here are a couple of the main reasons modified to answer your questions:

1) There are a lot of "free" wifi spots. Because you are not using them or are not aware of them does not mean they do not exist.

2) Many people have wifi at their home/office where they are not able to receive a strong Sprint signal.

3) Wifi does not suffer from the latency associated with Vision and/or other 2.5G networks.

4) Vision is not close to even 802.11b in terms of speed.


There are a lot more scenarios in which a wifi connection would be useful. One of which is that around the world, cellular data services as extremely costly. Wifi serves as a stop gap solution.

Initially, I felt the same way you did, but I have begun to see the light.

rodloos
11-02-2004, 11:58 AM
So is Sprint PCS going to come out with a cell phone that is capable of wireless network 802.11 b?


Well, I just noticed that PalmOne is advertising an 802.11 WiFi SD card for the Treo 650 for $129. Presumably they wouldn't advertise it if they didn't have drivers to make it work... http://www.palmone.com/us/

I already have a PDA with 802.11, and haven't found enough free/low cost WiFi hotspots in the Dallas area to make much use of it outside of home, but for people who live in cities with good public WiFi access, I can see how it would be useful (although then I'd probably make do with my existing PDA / wireless card).

Meinken
11-03-2004, 01:19 AM
Rodloos, could you show a specific link to the page that says the wifi card will work with the treo 650. The only one I found said "Adds 802.11b wireless network connectivity to the Tungsten™ T3 and Zire™ 72 handhelds" and does not mention the 650

rodloos
11-03-2004, 10:18 AM
Rodloos, could you show a specific link to the page that says the wifi card will work with the treo 650. The only one I found said "Adds 802.11b wireless network connectivity to the Tungsten™ T3 and Zire™ 72 handhelds" and does not mention the 650

Hmm, looks like you're right. I saw it advertised so prominently right under the ad for the Treo 650, I thought they were advertising it for the Treo. Sorry. :(

g.711
11-05-2004, 04:19 AM
maybe this short list will give you and Idea of what a Treo650 can do.
Call someone (duh)
Keep track of my student schedule/important dates
Address/phone book
Calculator
email w/attachments
text messaging/chat
Read a complete book (with Mobipocket)
Watch full length DVD movies (with Kinoma player/producer)
Download and watch movies from web
Download and watch movies from remote home computer
Mp3 Player (pocket tunes) (1 gig worth of songs on an SD card)
Download and play mp3's off the web
Download and play mp3's from remote home computer
download and play midi files from anywhere
Stream audio from any website like music or news stations
Listen to audio with built in speaker or headphones
Record Audio
Record short video clips
Full online banking access from USBANK (including sending bills!)
Look up ANY webpage: (for example)
use google
Use directory assistance
Use mapquest & directions
Look up any illness
Directions for CPR/Heimlich etc
read the latest news from anywhere in the world
look up movie times
browse the Internet Movie Database for all info on EVERY MOVIE
look up band schedules
order tickets online
buy things online like from amazon.com
run/bid on ebay auctions
read/participate in forum discussions
Check the weather anywhere
Full TV guide for any network service anywhere
Find restaurants and hotels and flights and place reservations
Enclyclopedia look up
Any other webpages you can think of?
Look up lyrics to songs people request at the gigs...and then perform them!
Scratch memo pad for jotting down random stuff
Alarm clock
Timer
Metronome
Find the tempo of a song just by tapping on the screen
Convert ANY form of measurement
Dictionary
Thesarus
Calculate the distance of lightning strikes (palm program)
Dieting/calorie calculating
Use IRC chat relay
Use ICQ
Full Blogging
Update webpages including my band's schedule, picture gallery and news webpages
Take a picture and store it
Email a picture
Post a picture on a website (using Sprint or Textamerica)
play a zillion games including all Nintendo, Sega and any Arcade game
Play Scrabble, Monopoply, Yahtzee, Backgammon, Chess, Breakout Etc.
Look up the periodic table elements
Totally control my home pc remotely with remote desktop!!
Universal TV/cable/home theater remote control
Transfer any file to the 1 gig SD card and back
Beam any file to another Palm Pilot or PC through IR port
Use Microsoft Word w/full dictionary, spell checker & thesarus
Complete Planetarium of the night sky
Backup the internal memory of the palm to the SD Card
Look at Excel or Powerpoint documents
Doodle a picture with the stylus and email it
The bright screen makes a GREAT flashlight
The stylus is great for itching inside your ear

g.711
11-05-2004, 04:37 AM
other usefull links to add features to your treo...Full disclosure I copied this from Treocentral.com


"Hey, where do you get the Nintendo, Sega, and arcade games?"

http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=5416

"Directions for CPR/Heimlich etc"

ON THE INTERNET

http://www.heimlichinstitute.org/howtodo.html

http://depts.washington.edu/learncpr/quickcpr.html

"Universal TV/cable/home theater remote control.....How?"

http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?f...069&prodid=1878


"I use mine to stream Sean Hannity!!
http://abcrad.sc.llnwd.net:12020/listen.pls
.........This link produces an error on my Sprint Treo 600......says the file type I'm trying to download is not supported by my device....."

Because you need to download POCKET-TUNES. It is a SHOUTCAST.COM file

"Full TV guide for any network service anywhere (Which program?)"

Not a program. I use the INTERNET on the phone
http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/grid....ner_id=national

"Doodle a picture with the stylus and email it (Which program?)"

DIDDLEBUG! With SNAPPER!

"how do you read a ppt document from treo? with what program?"

http://www.dataviz.com/

Ti-maniac
11-14-2004, 11:59 AM
Will it iSync to the MAC for iCal, email, address book via bluetooth

Will it upload, download Excel, Word and others and allow one to work on them on the 650?

Will it allow wireless interconnectivity to my powerbook via bluetooth like the T608 for Vision services to the MAC?

Will it ever have a WiFi card and enable Vonage to be run directly on it as a VoIP node when in a hotspot?

jdavid
11-15-2004, 11:32 AM
With my friends bluetooth phone he is able to remotely control his mp3's on his Apple laptop (play,stop, volume, etc).

Is this software on the mac side that allows one to do this or could the Treo 650 control my music selection on my windows computer, kind of like an ir remote control?

SprintPhoneGURU
11-15-2004, 02:14 PM
Actually you can use your phone as a modem to get connected to the internet. You just need a cable and a driver and it can be done right on your PC. When I am in the Airport I can use my phone to connect to the internet and get my e-mail on my Laptop. Plus on Vision plan there is no charges for it. You need software like some companies are try to sell. Its a SCAM. I bought a Sanyo cable on E-Bay for $4.00 and it gave the directions on how to get connected.

As for bluetooth all you really can do is get a cool but expensive headset. The inventors of Bluetooth is not yet utilize what use there is for Bluetooth. Its just a wireless chip with longer distance range.
Good Luck

_____________________________________________

I currently have the Samsung a-680 and love it but the new Treo 650 is looking impossible to pass up.

I have same basic noob questions about it, though -

1. Can I browse any website with it?
2. If it has bluetooth, do I still need vision to check email? I'm a little lost on the advantages to bluetooth - can someone fill me in on what this will help me do?
3. I heard something about not being able to text message with the 600 - are there problems with that?

I am a little confused as to how to maximize the 650 with Sprint's service - mainly, what all does bluetooth let me do? Sorry for the noob questions and thank you for your response.

Thunderboom01
11-15-2004, 05:08 PM
The camera has also been enhanced to a 1.3MP so you can get larger (hopefully clearer) pictures.

Is the 650 really going to have a 1.3 mp camera? The reason I ask is because everything I am reading on PalmOne's website states reference to a .3 megapixel. Am I just missing something?

http://www.palmone.com/us/products/smartphones/treo650/details.epl

Taken from website:

digital camera1
• VGA with 640x480 (0.3 megapixels) resolution and automatic light balancing
• 2x zoom
• Self-portrait mirror
• Captures video

dbsmithiii
11-24-2004, 07:40 PM
Yup, 640x480 (although a much improved picture compared to the T600 - I have both). The self-portrait 'mirror' is a hack, but at least you can line up your melon before taking the picture.

Is the 650 really going to have a 1.3 mp camera? The reason I ask is because everything I am reading on PalmOne's website states reference to a .3 megapixel. Am I just missing something?

http://www.palmone.com/us/products/smartphones/treo650/details.epl

Taken from website:

digital camera1
• VGA with 640x480 (0.3 megapixels) resolution and automatic light balancing
• 2x zoom
• Self-portrait mirror
• Captures video

vissionare
11-30-2004, 03:06 PM
maybe this short list will give you and Idea of what a Treo650 can do.
Call someone (duh)
Keep track of my student schedule/important dates
Address/phone book
Calculator
email w/attachments
text messaging/chat
Read a complete book (with Mobipocket)
Watch full length DVD movies (with Kinoma player/producer)
Download and watch movies from web
Download and watch movies from remote home computer
Mp3 Player (pocket tunes) (1 gig worth of songs on an SD card)
Download and play mp3's off the web
Download and play mp3's from remote home computer
download and play midi files from anywhere
Stream audio from any website like music or news stations
Listen to audio with built in speaker or headphones
Record Audio
Record short video clips
Full online banking access from USBANK (including sending bills!)
Look up ANY webpage: (for example)
use google
Use directory assistance
Use mapquest & directions
Look up any illness
Directions for CPR/Heimlich etc
read the latest news from anywhere in the world
look up movie times
browse the Internet Movie Database for all info on EVERY MOVIE
look up band schedules
order tickets online
buy things online like from amazon.com
run/bid on ebay auctions
read/participate in forum discussions
Check the weather anywhere
Full TV guide for any network service anywhere
Find restaurants and hotels and flights and place reservations
Enclyclopedia look up
Any other webpages you can think of?
Look up lyrics to songs people request at the gigs...and then perform them!
Scratch memo pad for jotting down random stuff
Alarm clock
Timer
Metronome
Find the tempo of a song just by tapping on the screen
Convert ANY form of measurement
Dictionary
Thesarus
Calculate the distance of lightning strikes (palm program)
Dieting/calorie calculating
Use IRC chat relay
Use ICQ
Full Blogging
Update webpages including my band's schedule, picture gallery and news webpages
Take a picture and store it
Email a picture
Post a picture on a website (using Sprint or Textamerica)
play a zillion games including all Nintendo, Sega and any Arcade game
Play Scrabble, Monopoply, Yahtzee, Backgammon, Chess, Breakout Etc.
Look up the periodic table elements
Totally control my home pc remotely with remote desktop!!
Universal TV/cable/home theater remote control
Transfer any file to the 1 gig SD card and back
Beam any file to another Palm Pilot or PC through IR port
Use Microsoft Word w/full dictionary, spell checker & thesarus
Complete Planetarium of the night sky
Backup the internal memory of the palm to the SD Card
Look at Excel or Powerpoint documents
Doodle a picture with the stylus and email it
The bright screen makes a GREAT flashlight
The stylus is great for itching inside your ear


You wrote a lot of Software files but you did not let us know where how to get them and if its possible to get any of the software for free

I need a program to allow my Palm to play movies.

 
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