M2Audio - Streaming audio player released (finally!)

[eclipxe]

Just letting everyone know - M2Audio is now released. You can stream your Mp3's (and ogg/wma/midi) to almost ANY vision phone...and make ringtones instantly from your music...

WE have finally set everything up - still fixing things here and there, so excuse our mess, however you CAN register on the site.

http://www.m2stream.com/

Because we love the sprint users community, we set up a promocode - use "sprintusers" and get an extra 3 weeks on the trial. We hope you guys enjoy it, and we are always available to help, you can IM me personally on AIM at M2StreamChris if you have any questions or need help getting set up.

Thanks everyone! This program wouldn't be possible without the support from everyone here at sprint users. Have fun with it - and look for M2Security - a webcam monitoring program soon.

Oh - and we just got 2 mm700's in the lab over here and are working on streaming AAC. CD Quality audio anyone??? :)

Screenshot:
http://www.m2stream.com/images/m2audio/now_playing3.gif
http://www.m2stream.com/images/m2audio/browse.gif

If you guys have any suggestions or comments, let me know and I will take care of them personally.

Chris

[SpineDoc]

That is great news! This program has been awesome. I might just have to pick up another A700, just for the streaming music, on my secondary line!

[Dinozero]

Snaps! Sounds awesome.. When I get my mm700 in about two weeks, your program will be the first I try!

[Greezy]

Excellent, thanks for the efforts! This will get much use.

[michelle]

congrats. still can't get on the bandwagon since it's PC only =\...oh well.

[Raptor22]

Oh freak yes!! I was waiting for you guys to finish this program. I d/l this program when still in beta and worked unbelievably and now that its done I cant wait to see whats new on it. It did an outstanding job when in beta I can only imagine the complete product.

[eclipxe]

If anyone had trouble signing up this morning, we fixed the reg scripts. Thanks for the support guys! After a lot of testing on the mm-A700 yesterday we found a lot of new errors. In the next 2 weeks we will release a MIDP 2.0 compliant client for the newer phones with adjustable AAC support. (You can set the bitrate). Also the Audio Enhancement is broken on some systems. Fixing this also.

[SpineDoc]

Auto update feature is awesome!! No more long links

[ctnchrisw]

I cant login to the forums, it gives me "Sorry, we could not find a member using those log in details.". When I try to run the server (using xp sp2) it gives me an error. I tried putting it in win 98 compatability mode and still get it.

[keats]

question, i assume it doesn't run on macs... :( so... is it compatible mac via virtual PC? i can access my AAC and MP3 files that are in itunes on my mac in virtual PC, can i then use your program to access them via my phone?

and yes, i can use internet from the virtual PC program.

-keats

[eclipxe]

ctnchrisw - You need the Microsoft .Net Framework.
You can download it at:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=262d25e3-f589-4842-8157-034d1e7cf3a3&displaylang=en

Install this and then restart the program.

You may also need MDAC 2.8:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=262d25e3-f589-4842-8157-034d1e7cf3a3&displaylang=en

That should get you up and running.

Keats - you MAY be able to use this with virtual PC - does it support DirectX? If you need help feel free to message me and we can try some things out.

We do have a guy working right now on a MAC and Linux port of the server ;)

[ctnchrisw]

what is virtual pc? Microsoft virtual pc? If it runs windows programs and can access the files it will probably work, but Im assuming it will need to be able to bind to a port

[eclipxe]

Yes. Also - ctnchrisw - we are aware of the forum problem - the same thing is happening on the help center. This issue will be resolved tonight. Thanks for your interest :)

[eclipxe]

In testing the a700 client we discovered that pop-up dialogs are not being displayed. We have to convert the MIDP 1.0 code over to MIDP 2.0 to take advantage of some of the phone's newer features. M2Audio 2.5 will be released before November with variable bitrate AAC streaming enabled. (No gaps in the song! (unless rebuffering)).

The server can already spit out AAC (as well as mp3) streams, however the clients are only aware of the QCP.

[ctnchrisw]

thanks, the .net framework got it working =) great peice of software. Thought I had installed it already but forgot that was a diff pc lol

[c1971ace]

i downloaded it to my phone and pc and when i log into my phone i get nothing but a blank screen and when i try to communicate to my phone from the pc it wont let me i shut off the windows firewall(using windows xp sp2) set my router like the directions say and still nothing im so frustrated im just going to uninstall everything and forget the whole thing this just isnt worth it.for the record im using a sanyo vm4500 phone.it would be nice if this could work for me

[jokeman3000]

I'm sorry your having problems with the software. If you want, we can work with you 1 on 1 to get your problems resolved. Let us know by replying in this thread and either Chris or I will PM you so that we can get this resolved.

[TurQ]

Oh man, this is a godly program! I hope that you hurry with the A700 software.. all I can do now is encourage.. encourage encourage encourage! GO, M2Audio, GOOOO! :D

[sprintguy]

agreed, this is an awesome program...they will have a ton of referrals from me, all my customers and coworkers will be aware of this...now if only i can get the ringtone feature working...

[jokeman3000]

what issues are you experiencing with ringtones? i made one a few hours ago.

[Dinozero]

The mm700 works ok with it though? Right? Just not AAC right now?

[TurQ]

The mm700 works ok with it though? Right? Just not AAC right now?

Yeah, my A700 works fine with it. But just as you said.. no AAC's "YET".. keyword is YET :hee:

[eclipxe]

Sprintguy - when did you download the setup? We figured out the problem with the rigntones - looks like the browser rejected URLS with "|" characters in them. Anyway we made a quick switch to use "?" and it worked like a charm. This was done on Wednesday morning. Did you download after Wednesday morning?

PM or IM me.

[kaila]

eclipxe - Absolutely brilliant piece of work! I'll need to get that extended battery for sure. The only issue I've had so far (haven't tried making ringtones yet) on a VM4050 is an empty page when scrolling through a new set of songs- by pressing "show more".

BTW- Unless you are giving Sprint a share of the revenue, I can't imagine them being too thrilled about this app.........

[SpineDoc]

I'm actually getting a blank page when I try to create a ringtone on the 4050, that and the headphones issue we discussed.

Otherwise it is working awesome.

[eclipxe]

If you are having ringtone issues then please go to your login at http://login.m2stream.com then go to M2Audio, Download and download the server again and re-send the client to your phone.

We are fiixing other small bugs and releasing a new "patch-installer" that won't require you to rescan ;)

[niftyneil]

this is awesome news! i cant wait to try this out...hopefully i wont have any problems

[culpthug]

it wont let me access the website at all

[eclipxe]

Our host has been switching nameservers (great timing Surpass!)

You should be able to access it now.

If you can ever not reach the site, try http://mobilemediastream.com

[Untouchables15]

when i try to use the app on my phone it just sits there forever showing connecting.

[jokeman3000]

When you installed the server on your computer, did it say that it could communicate, or did it give you an error?

[niftyneil]

exactly how much "downloading" is this program doing? should i be concerned about going over my vision plan?

[laikom]

I'm actually getting a blank page when I try to create a ringtone on the 4050, that and the headphones issue we discussed.

Otherwise it is working awesome.

what is the headphones issue?
BTW what is a good set of stereo headphones for the vm4050 ?
Is the stereo 2.5mm the same as any? Meaning could i simply get a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter and use any headphones?

[kaila]

what is the headphones issue?
BTW what is a good set of stereo headphones for the vm4050 ?
Is the stereo 2.5mm the same as any? Meaning could i simply get a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter and use any headphones?

An apaptor should work, but just search for "Kyocera Stereo Headset for Kyocera 7135 Phones" at Amazon. I found them yesterday after a tip from SpineDoc. They are only $10.99! Not sure if the call function (answer/hangup button) will work for the VM4050 though.

I would like to know what the headset issue is (was?) as well. Good luck.

[laikom]

An apaptor should work, but just search for "Kyocera Stereo Headset for Kyocera 7135 Phones" at Amazon. I found them yesterday after a tip from SpineDoc. They are only $10.99! Not sure if the call function (answer/hangup button) will work for the VM4050 though.

I would like to know what the headset issue is (was?) as well. Good luck.

Great to know.

[laikom]

Great to know.
Funny = Sitting at my computer listening to mp3s that are on my computer through my phone, just because i can.

One suggestion to the m2audio people.
Why can't the next song buffer as the current one is playing. I notice that by the time the song gets to the end it's no longer connected to vision, so i assume it's done downloading already... maybe not.

thanks

[kaila]

...Why can't the next song buffer as the current one is playing. I notice that by the time the song gets to the end it's no longer connected to vision, so i assume it's done downloading already... maybe not.

thanks

It would be great to have the next song queued up when another finishes. But this program doesn't buffer like your typical PC media player does though- it loads and serves songs up in 30 second pieces (on my phone there is typically a barely perceptible hiccup every 30 seconds).

I'm really having fun with this program and look forward to future developments. I don't know if M2Audio has Sprint as a paid partner, but hopefully they have Sprints blessing. Otherwise there is a risk Sprint might come down on them for profiting off of their network.

[eclipxe]

Don't worry about the data download - this program uses less bandwidth than MobiTV and 1KTV (no images).

I guess if you leave it streaming for hours at a time Sprint MIGHT become a bit peeved...but they can tell the difference between vision usage from a phone and from a computer. You pay for unlimited vision right? There is nothing in their terms of service that says you can't use that unlimited vision from the phone...Just not from a laptop or other computer. :)

Sprint does indeed know about our program and we are unable to be listed in the content catalog because we require the server. However - we ARE releasing M2Radio which will be a streaming radio station (with commercial music and independent artists and bands) which most likely WILL be listed in the content catalog next to Mobi and 1kTV.

Have fun streaming!

If Sprint does give any M2Audio users trouble then please let us know and we can take care of it, we have friends at Sprint. Regarding the buffering of the next song - We might implement this feature for AAC on the 2.0 clients, the problem is that on current phones M2Audio is maxing out the CPU and it made the program very buggy when we attempted to pre-cache. A combination of a lack of memory and processing power killed that feature ;(

Sorry!

[obendega@gmail.]

chris was gonna help me with this yesterday but i think he got busy so maybe you guys can help.

when i get to the "checking configuration" part in the setup it says, "status: unable to connect to m2stream server."

now i am behind a firewall so i forwarded port 4500 like it suggested. still got the same error though.

my belkin router allows me to put the computer in the "DMZ" zone, so i tried this but it still said no connection to server.

all the windows xp firewall stuff is turned off. i do not have any other firewalls running.

any ideas?

thanks!

[jokeman3000]

IM me at m2streamjoseph i'll work with you.

[zete]

i don't have vision, but i think that this is really cool.

jokeman, where can i get a look at the user manual? i'd like to see how this works. if i don't have vision, at least i can imagine the awesomeness.

[fairoasis]

I've been trying to delete alot of nonsense on my list of available music to no avail. Any suggestions how to get this stuff to delete in the library manager....I click delete from m2 and it remains there:(

[krid80]

this would require a constant internet connetion from your home pc correct?

[jokeman3000]

i don't have vision, but i think that this is really cool.

jokeman, where can i get a look at the user manual? i'd like to see how this works. if i don't have vision, at least i can imagine the awesomeness

There isn't a manual per say but we can answer any questions you may have. There is also a setup guide.

I've been trying to delete alot of nonsense on my list of available music to no avail. Any suggestions how to get this stuff to delete in the library manager....I click delete from m2 and it remains there:(

Delete it from the music library , but not the actual physical file?
I don't understand what you are trying to do.

this would require a constant internet connetion from your home pc correct?

Correct, dialup is much too slow, so if you dont' have cable or DSL you may consider the hosted solution. If you think you would be interested in that option, please post in our forums located here: http://www.m2stream.com/community/forum/viewtopic.php?t=395

currently we are gauging whether or not people would be interested in something like this.

[eclipxe]

We do not officially support dialup, however SEVERAL users have been able to stream just fine with dialup..M2Audio is very light on the connection, only about 1.4kb/sec upload speed is needed for a constant stream.

One thing to make sure to do on a dialup connection is to go to tools then refresh my ip address anytime you re-connect to the dial up and you will be fine. :)

User manual - none yet, however I am working on one. (And the help page!)

As far as not being able to remove songs from the library - I will take a look at that Saturday and release a patch if needed.

And to obendega and anyone else I was unable to assist today, I am truly sorry - got a flat tire after work and I've been stranded in Orange County, far from my main system...

Gotta get my work environment set up in the office out here :)

[SteelersFan]

I'm trying to set up my M2Audio. I'm have a Linksys router, got the port configuration correct, and even had the phone working and it picked out a random song to play, so I know it will work. But, ever since then, whenever I have the program running on my computer and I sign on the M2Audio on my cell phone and I log on, all I get is a screen that has the M2Audio logo and nothing else. My 2 options are "Exit" or "Login" below. Anyone have any ideas? I tried to IM M2audioJoseph last night w/o a reply, he was probably sleeping since it was late. Anyone have any ideas for me?

Thanks in advance.
Scott

PS-Just got the Sanyo 8200 yesterday (ignore my avatar if I haven't updated it yet)

[eclipxe]

Try deleting the app from the phone and redownload. Make sure you are typing your username with caps "S"teelers"F"an

Also make sure it is "S"teelers"F"an on the server -> go to options then account settings and re-login there and restart the server.

Everything looks fine on our servers.

Thanks!

[lil icey ice]

cool thanks

[jdb8167]

you MAY be able to use this with virtual PC - does it support DirectX? If you need help feel free to message me and we can try some things out.

I will test out virtual PC under win2k on a G4 PowerMac when the A700 is working. Right now I can't even login.

Also, instead of all this extra work for Mac and Linux, why aren't you guys making this a web service? Doing a JSP/ASP version can't be that hard. Is it because of legal issues?

[eclipxe]

Performance.... DirectX...

[jdb8167]

I will test out virtual PC under win2k on a G4 PowerMac
Responding to my own post. It works under Virtual PC 6 on OS X 10.3.5 using the virtual switch mode. My G4 PM is running at 1.3 Mhz. The host OS on VPC was Win2000.

The network setup was non-trivial to get working. Step by step:

Virtual PC 6 has two networking modes. One is using the host OS connection in a NAT mode. This won't work with M2 Audio because you need a route to the computer over port 4500. So I switched VPC to use virtual switch mode. This mode causes the virtual pc to acquire its own IP from the router.

Second, my network needs a route to a static IP if I am going to allow inbound port mapping. So, I had to set up Win2K using a static IP.

Set up my router to port map incoming port 4500 to the static IP reserved for the VPC host OS.

Add a rule to the built-in OS X firewall to allow inbound connections on port 4500 using the System Preferences/Sharing/Firewall panel.It turns out that this step isn't necessary. VPC bypasses the OS X firewall in virtual switch mode.

At this point, I could set up the M2 Server and have it connect. I was able to add a song to the music library and play it and convert it to a ringtone.

Complete success! Now when you support AAC you will have something--qcp just doesn't cut it :)

[SteelersFan]

Eclipxe, thank you very much. Capitalizing "S" and "F" worked great. Now I'm listening to random play. I need to create a folder with only good songs on it, as it picks up a lot of mp3's that I didn't even know I had.

Scott

[franklong23]

I went there signed up but it told me my nimber was alredy in use??? I have had this number for 5 mo it was clean. never went to the site before what do i do

[eclipxe]

Frank Long - pm the numberand I will check it out.

[franklong23]

Frank Long - pm the numberand I will check it out.

1111111111111111111111111

[Bohemian Iconoclast]

Yup, newbie.

If you're going to defend the forum against trolls, don't post your number publicly.

Dave's VM won't be the only one to go down, I fear.....

[eclipxe]

Bah trolls...

Anyway - just for the 4050 users out there ( I know you guys feel left out by all the other companies, no cool games or apps... I know firsthand as the 4050 is my primary phone )...
check out:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000AKAFJ/qid=1094981592/sr=8-1/ref=pd_cps_1/104-6484649-0862355?v=glance&s=wireless&n=507846

Those headsets increase the audio quality a bit and provide dual mono output on each ear (poor man's stereo!).

I use them all the time and the 4050 is able to replace my Rio nicely...

[Untouchables15]

Bah trolls...

Anyway - just for the 4050 users out there ( I know you guys feel left out by all the other companies, no cool games or apps... I know firsthand as the 4050 is my primary phone )...
check out:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000AKAFJ/qid=1094981592/sr=8-1/ref=pd_cps_1/104-6484649-0862355?v=glance&s=wireless&n=507846

Those headsets increase the audio quality a bit and provide dual mono output on each ear (poor man's stereo!).

I use them all the time and the 4050 is able to replace my Rio nicely...

just curious would i have to have an adapter for that headset? or which headset would u recommend for the vm4500

[jokeman3000]

that headset will work on the 4500 or any other phone that uses the universal headset connection.

[Talek]

This is a very cool program IMO... As easy to install as one could expect, even going so far as to have a walkthrough on how to set up your router/firewall which would be a big help to someone less savvy. Sound quality is ok, good enough for it's use but not good enough to replace my mp3 player.

Speaking of, any updates on when AAC streaming will be supported? I have an A700, so that would definately make a difference in sound quality!

Reasonably priced if one uses it regularly. The program has a huge amount of potential and shows what can really be done with vision without relying on sprint services. I can't wait to stream video from my computer!

Only suggestions I can think of would be the ability to connect your phone to a computer other than yours, so people could theoretically run a master server, like a radio etc. (I don't know the legal implications here but it would be nice). Second would be AAC support, of course. 3rd would be support for .au playlist files for compatability with other comp based mp3 players instead of manually building a new playlist for m2stream. Final suggestion I can think of for now would be to have a link or reference to quality earpieces that can be used in conjunction with the service. I've been looking for a good hands free kit, preferably stereo, for a long time but can't find many solid recommendations! (Something with external call/answer and mute that works with a samsung would be awesome).

Great job! Can't wait to see what comes next.

[Talek]

Sorry for the double post, forgot a couple things and can't edit my old one. :/

2 last things! Hah.

1) Does anyone know if you can set the a700 to not sleep when the screen is flipped down while an application is running? Kinda sucks having to leave my screen open when streaming.

2) On the same vein it'd be awesome if the track info was displayed on the external LCD while closed.

That's it!

[eclipxe]

Thanks for the review! As far as 1) This is a problem with the a700 - I think the a620 had the same problem and it was later fixed with a firmware update.

2) Sorry - we have no way to access the external screen. It would be awesome however! Sprint just doesn't give us the option...:)

[SteelersFan]

I got mine all working fine, but something has been happening to me lately. I would leave the computer for a while, and when I come back, the screen saver was not working. I guess I was out of memory on the computer maybe? I have 256k RAM. I was always running the M2Audio program and when I exited the program, then things were ok. Has anyone else experienced this at all?

Scott

PS--Kudos to the M2Audio gang, this program is cool and you're all very helpful.

[eclipxe]

I think the 256k ram is the problem :)

Just kidding - right click on the taskbar and go to Task Manager. Look at processes and then M2Audio- how much memory is it taking up? If it's over 40 or 50mb then we might have a memory leak... (We've tested and tested to fix all the leaks but maybe we missed one? )

[eddyis20]

This is gotta be the coolest app I have seen for Sprint phones to date!!!!

I can listen to all 4500 of my songs anywhere!! W00T

[SteelersFan]

The memory usage for the M2Audio.exe file is only 1,592K. The program works really good, but the audio quality on my 8200 really isn't that good. There's nothing that the M2Audio program can do for that. Is there any external speaker I could plug in that would give me better sound?

Scott

[Deval]

I used the program on my VM4500, and I can sum it up in 1 word..."AWESOME"....everyone at work was all :eek: when they heard it...really nice software guys!

[Sim-X]

I tried m2 for the first time last night and I installed the server on the pc no problem and got the ap downloaded on my phone and it synced up just fine. I didn't have any mp3's on the computer I was working with so I just googled a couple to try out. Once I had them downloaded they played just fine on the pc, but once I tried to play them on the phone it would freeze the ap on the phone and I would have to re-start the ap. Maybe it was just the mp3's I downloaded were bad but they did play in windows media player. However, I did get some of those sample songs that windows media player comes with to play on the phone just fine and it actually sounded really good. But anyways, I have an mp3 collection on another pc, but havn't downloaded mp3's for a long time now. I have been using rhapsody.
So my questions are,
why wouldn't those mp3's play if they played in media player.Windows media player didn't give an error's or anything.

And my second question is it would be cool if you could someone have rhapsody support. I know rhapsody is actually working on something for the phones as we speak, it's called rhapsody 411, but as of right now 411 can't play music, you can only look up artists and what not, so there is really not much use for it right now. But is that something that would be possible, maybe make it so that the server could read the rhapsody playlist as you can export the playlist, so maybe that would be possible and maybe make some kinda macro that would change songs. I really wouldn't want to download all the songs on my rhapsody playlist. Just a thought
Sim-X

[jetblue]

Hey, probably a stupid question but I have an A620 and have hooked up mp3 headphones with a 2.5mm adapter as well as a handsfree and the audio only comes out of the phone speaker. I can hear phone calls through the handsfree, but downloaded ringers or the streaming audio only comes through the phone speaker.

[eddyis20]

I am gettin a error message today. Its says error contacting server please make sure your connected to the internet

[jokeman3000]

Are you behind a router or firewall?

[eclipxe]

Jetblue - you will need to get the firmware update for your phone - take it to a Sprint store, I believe they fixed this issue. Eddyis20 - Try again now, our server went down early this morning (we need a new host already!)

-Chris

[eclipxe]

Sim-X - Awesome idea regarding Rhapsody, I love Rhapsody personally. We would have to be contacted by Real, and I doubt that would happen as we are competitors :)

As far as some songs not working - if you can send us a link to the songs we can investigate and probably issue a fix in the next release. Thanks!

[teznic]

Did you ever find a new host for the server? I tried connecting last night with no luck. I am behind a firewall (3com cable router), but even with a direct link to my cable modem im still getting errors. All recommended software was installed too. It doesn't seem to be a problem on my side unless comcast is blocking the 4500 port by other means.

[eclipxe]

Our servers are still down - We are going to extend EVERYONE's trial today (even if you are expired) due to these connection issues. Please bear with us (our host wasn't prepared for the load!)

-Chris

[eclipxe]

We just went back up - We extended trials and re-enabled expired trials for users that were affected by the server outtage.

[bosshog69]

We just went back up - We extended trials and re-enabled expired trials for users that were affected by the server outtage.


Wow that is great that you will extend our trial because i also was having trouble connecting to your service. You guys are on the right track and have awesome software. Once you get the small things ironed out it will kick ass!

[DcDave63]

Ok, I have read the entire thread and was wondering, is there a list somewhere of the phones that currently work and those that don't work, as of now?

I tried the website, and where the list should be, there isn't.

[Sandiegodude]

Wow, you guys are awesome!! I haven't gotten the pc software to link to my phone as of yet, but i know it'll be RAD!!!
One quick Q.
I work with 2 computers and was wondering if I could set both to act as servers (not simultaneously). or if there is anyway I could log onto someone elses music library and browse. I know security is a huge issue, but I cannot set up my PC at home right now but I really really want to try this software!!!!
Anyways, I'm sure the future is very bright for you brilliant people!!!
Thank you and good luck!!!

[wl_lifestyle]

Are you guys going to try and get this listed on sprints wap? because i'ld love to have them pick up the monthly bill for me that way :)

[teznic]

This is really cool and its faster than I thought. Only problem im having is when I try to exit the application. It always locks up. Anybody else have this issue with the VM4050?

[teznic]

Ok I think I found a bug. If you use the "OK" button to exit instead of the left soft key it'll lock up. Otherwise its fine.

[Storino03]

Is the sound quality cd-quality? It sounds so muffled and gargled. Is there a way to produce better quality sound?

[eclipxe]

The sound quality is dependant on the phone. We are working hard with the AAC encoder to get it up for a700 and 7400 users (soon). I'll just tell you this - after testing with aac I have decided to sell my iPod.

I have to run out the office right now but I can answer more questions when I get back, thanks guys!

[kaila]

The sound quality is dependant on the phone. We are working hard with the AAC encoder to get it up for a700 and 7400 users (soon). I'll just tell you this - after testing with aac I have decided to sell my iPod....

eclipxe, I realize it's a losing proposition using any current cellphones external speaker- decent headphones/headset are really whats needed. But isn't it fair to say using a 1.5Kbps stream (the rate the m2audio server streams to our phones) requires some serious compression that will never seriously be able to compete with CD quality- whether it's streamed in AAC or anything else? 1.5Kbps is just way too low. I mean there are plenty complaining that the iTunes music stores 128Kbps AAC bitrate is too low and below CD quality.

I'm not complaining by any means, your product is amazing. But if streamrates were to double, what kind of audio improvements would there be?

[eclipxe]

AAC is streaming at 60kbps and because of the low-quality speaker/headset the loss in quality is less dramatic. I mean, a true audiophile will NOT be satisfied with this, however a true audiophile shouldn't be expected to a) stream music b) stream it to a cell phone. I think in the future the technology will be there so we CAN do very high quality streams (EVO-DV) however with the current technology even doing 1.5kb/sec is pushing it. Remeber a few years ago when color screens on cell phones were the big thing? Then cameras? It's amazing how fast the technology is improving and I'm guessing that once we have the 2nd generation of MIDP 2.0 phones the quality of the chipset and data rate will be pretty much comparable to listening to mp3s on a portable player, etc.

So basically cd quality might be an overstatement, however compared to QCP it is like night and day.

[kaila]

Wow, 60Kbs AAC will be awesome! Thanks for that information.

.....however compared to QCP it is like night and day.

Agreed.

[jetblue]

Hey, had problems for a while but it's working a little better except that I lose signal a lot. Then I get unable to stream sometimes after that. I went from dialup to broadband recently and I think I got my router set right with port 4500 with my IP. Every now and then it will try and stream a long recording and it will be in fast forward.

One more thing. I like to listen to recordings that may be 1 - 3 hours long. But the caching times out. Any way to increase? Thanks

[eclipxe]

Jetblue -

Glad it's working a bit better - unable to stream usually means there is an error somewhere between your phone and the tower - what kind of signal do you get? As far as the "fast forwarding" this is due to the Qualcomm encoder which only accepts 8khz audio files - most likely your recordings are stored at 22khz to save space and our decoding process only has routines to convert 44khz audio (the most common). This is something we have attempted to fix, however it causes a huge slowdown in caching (requires up-sampling then downsampling a huge audio file).

As far as the caching timeout - Post the idea on our forums to make it configurable and we can put it into our next feature set. For now you can click on a song to start it caching, then just go back and exit the program for a while (maybe 5-10 minutes), then when you go back in the app try playing the same song/long recording and it should be completely cached :) (It continues in the background)

Thanks!

[jdb8167]

AAC is streaming at 60kbps and because of the low-quality speaker/headset the loss in quality is less dramatic. I mean, a true audiophile will NOT be satisfied with this...
So basically cd quality might be an overstatement, however compared to QCP it is like night and day.I have downloaded a 2 MB song encoded with AAC at 60 kbps and it sounds very very good on the phone. Not CD quality but it isn't bad at all. The headphone jack is stereo and the stereo separation was awesome. If m2audio encoding is as good as Quicktime then I think that this application is going to be killer with the A700. The only real problems are battery life and the fact that you can't get a phone call while it is in use for streaming.

P.S. This application does work from Virtual PC on a Mac if anyone was wondering. The setup is non-trivial but it works very well from my 1.2 GHz G4.

[Perfectance]

You know, there was a time when I thought about getting an iPod. Now I think I use the extra 300 bucks I'm going to save and put it into CD's and a good pair of stereo headphones that'll fit into my cell phone.

Eclipxe was awsome enough to let me test out the streaming ACC for the A700 today. Whatever you've read about it, it's true. Well, no, that's a lie. It's better than true. It works, it sounds great, and my money's going to them. The professionalism and quality at this point is something I didn't expect from anything other than some mega-corp or Sprint itself.

These guys are completely dedicated to getting this program to work for you. I actually had live support while testing it out. These guys are doing all they can to make it fit our un-obtainable standards here at SprintUsers. It's still in beta now, but for a beta it's perfect. Bugs, tiny issues, personal preference... yeah, it has it's problems. But you can tell that all these things are just one step away from being checked off the to-do list. Check it out, try it out, and go gloat to some Verizon/Cingular/T-Mobile/Nextel users and show them something they never dreamed of.

[Untouchables15]

i've been gone for awhile and i was just curious, are there any new updates for the software?

[Perfectance]

Welcome back. Depends on how long you've been gone. I think right now they are updating it as you read this.

[eclipxe]

Thanks for the kind words Perfectance, all of the staff at m2 comes from Sprint Users, we all part of the community, been around for a while and want to make sure we are doing everything we can for the community because you guys make all this happen. We aren't like some people who just register the day before they release their software and post telling you guys to try it... ::wink::

Anyway, it's 4am here on the West Coast and after a night of coding, followed by a few cold drinks and more coding I think its time to hit the sack....Saturday will be a busy day but the dev machines will be up and a new install with aac support should be ready. Still no fix for the skips, however we are thinking it is an issue with the Samsung phone...we'll keep everyone posted on how far we can get with that...

Thanks again guys! You guys (and girls) make it all worth it, it's fun for all of us to make something that everyone enjoys using and we are going to continue this with many more cool things you can use to get the most out of that $400 phone and $20/mo vision package you bought :)

[jetblue]

Jetblue -

Glad it's working a bit better - unable to stream usually means there is an error somewhere between your phone and the tower - what kind of signal do you get? As far as the "fast forwarding" this is due to the Qualcomm encoder which only accepts 8khz audio files - most likely your recordings are stored at 22khz to save space and our decoding process only has routines to convert 44khz audio (the most common). This is something we have attempted to fix, however it causes a huge slowdown in caching (requires up-sampling then downsampling a huge audio file).

As far as the caching timeout - Post the idea on our forums to make it configurable and we can put it into our next feature set. For now you can click on a song to start it caching, then just go back and exit the program for a while (maybe 5-10 minutes), then when you go back in the app try playing the same song/long recording and it should be completely cached :) (It continues in the background)

Thanks!


I checked and the audio I'm having problems with is 44khz but it's mono. Could that be the problem?

Also, I'm losing signal after about 10 seconds every time now. Where ever I am...

[eclipxe]

I checked and the audio I'm having problems with is 44khz but it's mono. Could that be the problem?

Also, I'm losing signal after about 10 seconds every time now. Where ever I am...

Yes 22khz stereo or 44khz mono both will cause the problem. I have found a solution to this (resampling the original) however it slows down caching. There will be an option for this in version 2.3.

Losing signal every 10 seconds - that is very strange , what phone model and what internet connection on your pc?

-Chris

[jokeman3000]

We are currently testing the latest version of M2Audio (Version DX)

This version features AAC Streaming and Ringtone support, as well as implements various performance related bug fixes on both the server and client. This beta will be available only to registered users who are either on their trial period or have purchased subscriptions.

If you are already registered, you may download the new beta at:
http://login.m2stream.com

Please post your experiences on our forums.

Joseph Cohen
M2Stream Support

[jetblue]

Yes 22khz stereo or 44khz mono both will cause the problem. I have found a solution to this (resampling the original) however it slows down caching. There will be an option for this in version 2.3.

Losing signal every 10 seconds - that is very strange , what phone model and what internet connection on your pc?

-Chris

What's the best to save MP3 as: 44khz stereo?

I have A620 Samsung...Cable internet connection, with a wireless Lynx router.

Hey my trial runs out in the next few days. Could I get an extension since I haven't had it working right yet?

[TurQ]

For some reason, I cant get the Handset client.. I click it and it "says" it sent it.. but I never recieve it on my handset.. I tried sending other SMS and it works fine. Hmm, and I screwing up something. Maybe you can help me out here. I'm trying to check out the new DX thing.. AAC ringers rule :D

**EDIT**

Nevermind, I got it :rolleyes:

[eclipxe]

jetblue - shoot an email to support and we can extend from there and see what we can do to help. This goes for everyone else also - if you are having trouble getting setup and find your trial running out, then please email us at support@m2stream.com or create a new ticket on our site at http://support.m2stream.com. We will be glad to extend anyone's trial who has had trouble connecting or streaming.


Turq -
The SMS sometimes comes immediatly, sometimes there is a 30 mintue delay - we are at the mercy of Sprint's servers so YMMV.

Thanks!

[eclipxe]

Fixed bug in M2Audio DX resetting to QCP quality - if you have had trouble please redownload phone app. (The new version on phone app should be 2.21 - Sprint cached 2.2 so try again in a few hours until you get 2.21)

Thanks!

[Dinozero]

I might have had that bug? I don't know, I know I couldn't tell a difference in the AAC version at all hardly, maybe I'm just not an audiophile enough or whatever.. but I downloaded this update and it does sound better, a lot better..

[eclipxe]

:) Yes, everyone had the bug...

[Perfectance]

Eclipxe spent 2 or 3 hours with me last night trying to fix that problem. When's the last time you had a problem with software and one of the guys that made it spent 2 hours helping you one on one with it?! I'm lucky if I ever get an e-mail back whenever I run into a problem with other programs.

Eclipxe rocks, and so does M2Audio for the MM-A700! If there are still people out there that haven't tried it, you have nothing to loose, and the envy of all your friends to gain. :D

[bosshog69]

Fixed bug in M2Audio DX resetting to QCP quality - if you have had trouble please redownload phone app. (The new version on phone app should be 2.21 - Sprint cached 2.2 so try again in a few hours until you get 2.21)

Thanks!
I am having trouble streaming to my phone it keeps asking me to log in? It worked once or twice with one of your first beta's but now i downloaded the DX handset software that was made just for the MM-A700 and that has never worked. Any Ideas?

[eclipxe]

Just got another a700 in lab, expect final release very soon! :)

Bosshog - are you still having this error? Our site went down for a bit overnight and we had to run some maintenance tools so you might have had login problems during that period. Try again and let us know...

-Chris

[eclipxe]

Just a heads up - we are having some registration issues so if you recently registered, please hold tight! We will be fixing this issue through the night, plesae check back soon if you get MySQL errors when trying to validate. Thanks guys...

[qwestcell]

yep, i was retarded
haha my bad

[konceptz]

Drop it like it's hot! FoSho, but I got a bug for ya.

Under Win2k
NTFS

Playlist manager gives me a .NET framework error. If you want the debug, lemme know. If it's my fault, lemme know.

Konceptz


-blah. blah. blah.

[solodarkprince]

Ok I downloaded the software to my phone Sanyo 8100. Now what? I am new to this and really have no idea what to do next. Where is the music located at? When I use the App all I get is a blank screen. I have a streaming play list from CDZLimited that I listen to while online so is this going to let me connect to it? Give me instructions I didnt see any on the site not even in the FAQ section.

[eclipxe]

Solodarkprince -

We will be glad to get you up and running -> Make sure you also download the m2audio server on your computer. Once you get that setup we can help you. You can contact me directly at M2StreamChris. If you do not want to leave your computer running to stream, we are getting ready to test two services;

M2AudioHosted - You can upload 30-60 songs to us and then use M2Audio to stream it. No worries about port forwarding or leaving your computer on.

M2Radio -> Download the app, select from several radio stations of live streaming music 24/7. Rate songs, get more info on artists, etc :)

Coming soon :)

[eclipxe]

( you can dowload the server by going to http://login.m2stream.com/ )

[bosshog69]

Just got another a700 in lab, expect final release very soon! :)

Bosshog - are you still having this error? Our site went down for a bit overnight and we had to run some maintenance tools so you might have had login problems during that period. Try again and let us know...

-Chris

It now says my trial has expired. I'm not sure if this was why i was having trouble acessing for the past week or so. I guess i know why it is not working now :)

Thanks for your quick responce guys!

[jokeman3000]

bosshog, start a trouble ticket with my name at the top (Joseph) and i'll look into your account. Maybe i can extend your trial so you can play around with the program some more.

Joseph Cohen
M2Stream Support
It now says my trial has expired. I'm not sure if this was why i was having trouble acessing for the past week or so. I guess i know why it is not working now :)

Thanks for your quick responce guys!

[qwestcell]

out of curiosity what headset do you recomend for the A700?

i tried using my earpice one, and it sounds just as bad as my phone sounds. kinda high and tiny, auto awnser is off on both so thats not it, and i KNOW i can get better quality of sound...somehow :p

[jdb8167]

out of curiosity what headset do you recomend for the A700?I have a very nice stereo headset from Samsung. I bought it on their website. Testing against a downloaded AAC file, the sound quality is excellent. I haven't tried the latest version of M2Audio yet.

[eclipxe]

JDB - let us know how the headset sounds, we might buy in bulk and sell on our site.

[qwestcell]

oh oh i am dieing to know, wich headset did you buy, and why oh why GOD is the A700 not even on the samsung webpage :(

[eclipxe]

Hey everyone - just wanted to let everyone know we appreciate the support from the SU community - We are a small company and are only possible because of the support we get from SU, so thanks everyone!

[bosshog69]

out of curiosity what headset do you recomend for the A700?

i tried using my earpice one, and it sounds just as bad as my phone sounds. kinda high and tiny, auto awnser is off on both so thats not it, and i KNOW i can get better quality of sound...somehow :p


I just bought a Jabra head set with the answer button on the cable. I will try it out and post my results here once i get my account streightened out. :hee:

[payasa]

I just bought a Jabra head set with the answer button on the cable. I will try it out and post my results here once i get my account streightened out. :hee:
Where did you buy it?

[jdb8167]

JDB - let us know how the headset sounds, we might buy in bulk and sell on our site.It sounds great. The headphones are stereo, have a button for the voice recognition and are pretty nice looking (if that matters to anyone).

You can find them here:

http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/nabc/prod/hhcommerce/shoplist_detail.jsp?eUser=&redirect=yes&category=Phones+and+Fax+Machines%2fWireless+Phones %2fAccessories&prod_id=MM-A700

[KennyD]

What is a good headset to use with the Sanyo 8200? I'd like one with a turbo button. I think its called that. Thanks in advance.

[jdb8167]

JDB - let us know how the headset sounds, we might buy in bulk and sell on our site.I can't test the headset with M2Audio since my account seems to have expired but I don't see why it won't sound great with that too.

I would pay for M2Audio if the java application would just stay running when the phone is closed. Is this possible? The SprintTV Media player runs while the phone is closed but I haven't found anything else that does. MobiTV also shuts off.

[jokeman3000]

I can't test the headset with M2Audio since my account seems to have expired but I don't see why it won't sound great with that too.

I would pay for M2Audio if the java application would just stay running when the phone is closed. Is this possible? The SprintTV Media player runs while the phone is closed but I haven't found anything else that does. MobiTV also shuts off.
This is a firmware issue. Samsung either did it on purpose, or messed up. Best bet is to call samsung and complain so that they fix it in the next firmware update.

[qwestcell]

call samsung EVERY day to give firmware that:
allows m2audio to play when closed
take pics when closed
those two htings alone woudl make me the happiest man ALIVE!!!!!!

[tekneakz]

take pics when closed
the a680 takes pics when closed, cant think of a reason the a700 wouldnt

[Dinozero]

Yea, I really wish I could play while its closed.. so I could just put it in my pocket and walk around at work with my own personal radio. :D

[Darkspectre]

m2audio causes my a620 to reboot right after it plays part of a cache'd song. any ideas?

[eclipxe]

Dark - do you hear any audio before it reboots? Also have you taken your phone in for the software upgrade (at Sprint store)?

I can assist you from there, thanks
-Chris

[Darkspectre]

I just bought the phone, the software has already been upgraded. Yeah, I heard audio before it reboots, sometimes even a full song. It's just when i go to change songs it's just reboots. Sometimes it'll keep rebooting my phone.

- D

[tallazzFilipino]

Hey, I tried eMailing at: support@m2stream.com, but got an eMail back from: Mailer-Daemon@opti.surpasshosting.com. I couldn't get a hold of you on AIM.

I don't have either of the 3 brand modems listed on the help page. I have a wireless router/dsl modem from Verizon. I went to DHCP settings and set it so it's public. Anyway, the furthest I've gotten with the m2audio setup was when it asked to acan a folder for music. After that, no luck. I go thru setup again and it says there's no connection between my phone and my server. I aprpeciate any help I can get. TIA

[eclipxe]

TallAzz - shoot me an email to chris.lang@m2stream.com and I will help you from there, please be sure to include your cell number and your username.

[tallazzFilipino]

TallAzz - shoot me an email to chris.lang@m2stream.com and I will help you from there, please be sure to include your cell number and your username.

Sent!

[gobulldogs]

I've been playing around with the trial version and this looks like such a cool app. Problem is, it sounds crappy and quiet on my Sanyo MM-7400. The new Pod2Mob software seems to make use of the ringer speaker instead of the handset, so it's much louder and sounds great. Since it can be done with Pod2Mob, are there any plans to update M2Audio to work better with the 7400?

Thanks for these great apps - keep up the good work!

[eclipxe]

Make sure you are using the DX client for M2Audio :)

[gobulldogs]

I re-downloaded the DX client from your site, but it's still giving me the same crappy sound. I've read a lot of complaints about the 7400's sound, so I know it's not going to be great with any software. I was just surprised to see how much better the sound was with Pod2Mob.

[ZEO2K]

Is there a way, we could connect the 5600 to maybe a car cd player's AUX to play M2stream from it?

[anthony@ddn]

we're asking alot here arent we lol.

[Sim-X]

they still working on this thing?

[Bohemian Iconoclast]

...if I was you, I would go to m2stream and check...they are the manufacturer... :deal:

[eclipxe]

The 7400 should sound spot-on -

We are still working on M2Audio 3 and will be offering M2Audio 2 for free in the next few days.

-Chris

[MysticG]

Does anyone know how to get this to work on MM-8300? I can ge the app on my phone fine, and the servers are set up fine. The problem is, the M2Audio app when i click a song to start playing, it plays the first 3 seconds of the song and that is. When I used the M2Audio DX version, it just sits on the word download for ever... Is there anyway to get this to work???? Thanks!

[eclipxe]

The 8300 has a lot of trouble with streaming over Java (Pod2Mob has the same issue).

Working on a fix for the new version, but haven't been able to test the 8300.

Will update when we have more to show.

Thanks!

[MysticG]

Ok thanks, I just think its weird, it play the first 3 seconds, and then I hear nothing else but it still shows that its playing. Pod2Mob works perfectly for me. I cant get Orb 2 work either come to think of it... Other on here say they have gotten it to... Any pointers I can use?

[MountainDew]

The 8300 has a lot of trouble with streaming over Java (Pod2Mob has the same issue).

Working on a fix for the new version, but haven't been able to test the 8300.

Will update when we have more to show.

Thanks!


Hi I been trying to download the software but I haven't been able, I also have a 8300 and if you ever need a tester for anything My phone can be used as Guinea Pig, so just PM me if you need to test something

[alexkhan]

What error message are you getting?

[MountainDew]

What error message are you getting?

In the download for the server app i get
*On firefox*

Server not found

Firefox can't find the server at dl.m2stream.com.

* Check the address for typing errors such as
ww.example.com instead of
www.example.com

* If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network
connection.

* If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure
that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.



*On Internet Exlorer*

The page cannot be displayed
The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings.



On My Cellphone to download the client I get the "The Requested Page can not be displayed"

[unbreakableblue]

^^ I get the same messages when I try to download.. :(

[wulf]

i get that message too so its not you its them lol

[MountainDew]

:fingers: Let's hope he checks back soon, cause I'm really pumped up about doing this...

[alexkhan]

yeah- it's on our side.

A quick explanation: our host (surpass hosting: they suck) decided to delete all of our subdomains randomly. Why? I have no idea. So the dl.m2 subdomain doesn't exist. I just tried to re-add it again. We'll just have to wait until dns propogates through to see if this fixed it. We will be moving over to dreamhost (where the rest of m2-world is) very soon, especially after this.

On another note, we opened up m2audio and made it free to everyone, so once the download issue is fixed, you should be able to use it at no cost :) We also have plans for an entire site redesign and database merge (so your one account will work with all the m2 software) once we move over to our new host

[BradL1279]

does this work with an A920, i can't get the software on my phone

[MountainDew]

Well I checked just now and not even the website is comming up, so I guess they are having mayor issues, thanks for giving out the names of the companies so we know not to host there. Listen is there anyway you can send me another link through pm or the file through email or something. I would really apreciate it. Thanks.

yeah- it's on our side.

A quick explanation: our host (surpass hosting: they suck) decided to delete all of our subdomains randomly. Why? I have no idea. So the dl.m2 subdomain doesn't exist. I just tried to re-add it again. We'll just have to wait until dns propogates through to see if this fixed it. We will be moving over to dreamhost (where the rest of m2-world is) very soon, especially after this.

On another note, we opened up m2audio and made it free to everyone, so once the download issue is fixed, you should be able to use it at no cost :) We also have plans for an entire site redesign and database merge (so your one account will work with all the m2 software) once we move over to our new host

[alexkhan]

Ok it looks like it's fixed and you can download it from our website (www.m2stream.com), but in case it's not working for you, here are the download links
Server (for PC)
http://www.m2stream.com/dl/m2audiosetup.exe

Client (for QCP phones)
http://www.fusionspec.com/brad/M2Audio.jad

Client (for AAC/MIDP2.0 phones)
http://www.fusionspec.com/brad/M2AudioDX.jad

I'll keep you guys posted as to the status of our host.

Thanks!

[BradL1279]

Ok it looks like it's fixed and you can download it from our website (www.m2stream.com), but in case it's not working for you, here are the download links
Server (for PC)
http://www.m2stream.com/dl/m2audiosetup.exe

Client (for QCP phones)
http://www.fusionspec.com/brad/M2Audio.jad

Client (for AAC/MIDP2.0 phones)
http://www.fusionspec.com/brad/M2AudioDX.jad

I'll keep you guys posted as to the status of our host.

Thanks!
those links didn't work for me, i couldn't dowload them, i was able to get it on my phone, but it just wont seem to log me in or run the program, i guess it doesn't work with powervision or the a920 yet. :( unless iam doing something wrong.

[unbreakableblue]

cool, thanks for those direct links. that sucks about your hosting company, i hope you get it all straightened out soon, cuz you've definitely got a good thing here.. I use pod2mob all the time w/o problems, and i'm pretty well addicted..


p.s. i think we need the JAR file for it to work on the phone..

[Danny08]

I think the answer is no, but will this work on a rinky-dink phone like LG PM325?

[BradL1279]

Does This Work With Power Vision Phones?

[blackboi719]

can sum1 plz find a way have it work samsung mm940

[MountainDew]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (MobilePhone MM-8300/US/1.0) NetFront/3.1 MMP/2.0)

can sum1 plz find a way have it work samsung mm940

I Don't Know But It Doesn't Work With The 8300 And The 7500 It Only Plays The First Five Seconds

[KennyD]

I can't even get the server to work right... every time I click "check my config" it says no response... I've got ports forwarded and everything...
I'm at a loss. :(

[djdafreund]

Is the server down for good for now while the m2stream 3.0 is in preparation? I can't connect now that i upgraded my phone to the mm-8300. "No Server Response"

[KennyD]

I think it's down... Hopefully someone who admins the site will come in and fill us in

[alexkhan]

We didn't intentionally make it not work... it should work for existing users (works for me) when you launch the server or client.
But yes, the main website is down (new users cannot sign up) until we move everything to dreamhost and/or version 3.
I'll keep you guys updated.

Alex

[djdafreund]

OK. Please keep us posted. Because i'm definitely not a new user, and both my client and server are both responding "Server..No Response" Chris knows me, i've helped beta test since the early beginning.

[Tmacisme17]

Has anyone gotten this thing to work wit a 9000 yet, if so do u have any tips.

[eclipxe]

Hey Guys -

Sorry about the issues - like Alex said, we're having major hosting problems.

The app SHOULD work on Power Vision phones, however we aren't supporting it officially. 3.0 will be out in the next few months and will work on every phone that 2.5 supported and all newer Power Vision phones. It will be comparable (better, ahem) than Orb's support (and it will work on other carriers than Sprint).

If your desktop server can't connect - try again later on. We've found that at random times of the day we can't hit our own servers. Our move to Dreamhost should fix this issue. Feel free to email me directly (chris.lang@m2stream.com) and I can try my best to help anyone with individual issues.

Thanks guys!
-Chris

[R2X]

Hey Guys -

Sorry about the issues - like Alex said, we're having major hosting problems.

The app SHOULD work on Power Vision phones, however we aren't supporting it officially. 3.0 will be out in the next few months and will work on every phone that 2.5 supported and all newer Power Vision phones. It will be comparable (better, ahem) than Orb's support (and it will work on other carriers than Sprint).

If your desktop server can't connect - try again later on. We've found that at random times of the day we can't hit our own servers. Our move to Dreamhost should fix this issue. Feel free to email me directly (chris.lang@m2stream.com) and I can try my best to help anyone with individual issues.

Thanks guys!
-Chris
Everything works on my A900. But it sounds like trash? Is there anything i can do to fix this?

[alexkhan]

Everything works on my A900. But it sounds like trash? Is there anything i can do to fix this?
Are you in M2Audio or M2AudioDX?

[BradL1279]

i talked to chris and he says there isnt anything u can do b/c its the way ur computer converts the audio, i have great encoders but for some odd reason it sounds like crap he said wait til V3

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