View Full Version : can the 5400 be flashed with 7300 software?
SoloDogg
07-25-2004, 11:25 AM
I'd love to have the SMS messaging on my phone, and the better speaker control...but don't like the case on the 7300 at all...is there any way to flash mine with the 7300 software? thanks
Deval
07-25-2004, 12:06 PM
I'd love to have the SMS messaging on my phone, and the better speaker control...but don't like the case on the 7300 at all...is there any way to flash mine with the 7300 software? thanks
anything is possible...but no tech would really do it
SoloDogg
07-25-2004, 12:33 PM
i've got a friend that's a tech here in Evansville, so that's not a big deal. I haven't discussed this with him yet, and normally he doesn't know what will work and what won't work. I need to go see him anyway about the flickering problem i've got when i'm on vision, so I thought maybe someone would know if this would work out too heh
Jaggrey
07-25-2004, 06:04 PM
i've got a friend that's a tech here in Evansville, so that's not a big deal. I haven't discussed this with him yet, and normally he doesn't know what will work and what won't work. I need to go see him anyway about the flickering problem i've got when i'm on vision, so I thought maybe someone would know if this would work out too heh
If you search you might find an old thread where a tech flashed a 4900 with the 7200 software. The phone seemed to work fine but it wasn't activated so he couldn't actually test the RL or anything. He was just experimenting and it wasn't for a customer, so don't expect anything. :p
Halo1982
07-25-2004, 06:25 PM
If you search you might find an old thread where a tech flashed a 4900 with the 7200 software. The phone seemed to work fine but it wasn't activated so he couldn't actually test the RL or anything. He was just experimenting and it wasn't for a customer, so don't expect anything. :p
Someone recently did the 4900->7200 flash and was able to activate RL on the account and have it work.
Jaggrey
07-25-2004, 06:27 PM
Someone recently did the 4900->7200 flash and was able to activate RL on the account and have it work.
wow sweet.... how did it add onto the account?
SoloDogg
07-25-2004, 11:23 PM
hell then maybe it is possible, guess i'll find out sometime tomorrow unless anyone else has some insight on the matter
Halo2Proz
07-25-2004, 11:55 PM
hell then maybe it is possible, guess i'll find out sometime tomorrow unless anyone else has some insight on the matter
I asked a tech who I know to try it, and he said it does not work. The computer will not do it.
tuolumne
07-26-2004, 12:37 AM
Tons of people switch switch between the V300/400/500/600 firmwares. I never really hear about people doing it with a Sprint phone though...
Tons of people switch switch between the V300/400/500/600 firmwares. I never really hear about people doing it with a Sprint phone though...
Hey that is useful infomation.
tuolumne
07-26-2004, 01:07 AM
Hey that is useful infomation.
I was just trying to point out that this is a big thing to do in the GSM world of phones. People flash their phones all of the time with new software (mind you they sometimes ruin the phone)...
I have never heard of anyone doing this sort of thing with a CDMA handset...
I was just trying to point out that this is a big thing to do in the GSM world of phones. People flash their phones all of the time with new software (mind you they sometimes ruin the phone)...
I have never heard of anyone doing this sort of thing with a CDMA handset...
Yeah I understood what you were saying.
Draggar
07-26-2004, 07:07 AM
Someone recently did the 4900->7200 flash and was able to activate RL on the account and have it work.
They probabally did some things that are highly against Sprint's policy to do that.
Technically, you can put the 7200 software in the 4900, but it becomes unstable and it re-arranges the buttons (for example, the menu button is no longer for the menu etc..).
Getting someone to be willing to do that is the easy part (which isn't too easy).
Playing around with this has a very high instance of frying the phone, and with something like putting the 7300 softwar einto the 5400, which hardware wise are different phones, you're looking at a close to 100% "fry" rate.
Let's say, hypothetically, you are able to successfully put the 7300 software in the 5400, first, you'd have no support for it since it wasn't designed to have the 7300 software. If you're having issues, when you call support, they'll see you have the 5400 and say that it doesn't support SMS at all.
Not only that, the system knows what phone you have by the ESN. Say the esn of your 5400 is ABCD1234. The system knows it's a 5400, which does not have SMS support, so the system itself would not allow you to put SMS on that line (pointless to allow a feature that a phone can't support that feature).
Personally, I wouldn't do it. It's too risky and would add too many problems. Yes, I've been asked before, and even reps who know the facts insist to the customer that I can, and I still won't do it. (And if I see them do that, we have a nice chat with the manager in the back afterwards).
Jaggrey
07-26-2004, 10:10 AM
In other words, it's not a good idea so don't do it :p Have a nice day! ;)
SoloDogg
07-26-2004, 11:51 AM
how are the 2 phones different hardware wise?? the screens are the same? boards are the same, buttons are even in the identical places. Hell even the batteries are interchangeable...the only difference is the addition of SMS messaging. Not to mention, if you get vision, SMS is included with that package, so you'd already have 100 SMS messages to be able to send, no matter if it's short mail or SMS. Who cares about customer support?!?! Wow, i'd have no support if SMS didn't work...it's not supposed to work anyway, and if you know the tech that did the job for you, what difference does that make? Sorry, i don't believe there would be a 100% chance of frying the phone, guess i'll find out tonight
SoloDogg
07-26-2004, 07:09 PM
UPDATE: my phone for now has 1.034SP software on it...which fixes the huge jumps in volume, and seems to make the phone hold signal better. My buddy didn't want to try updating my phone, for the chance that it would fry it, but said that he's got proprietary software that will allow him to upload different firmware to a phone, so he would try it sometime and let me know if it works. Maybe there is hope for the 5400 owners to get SMS messaging afterall! Especially since the hardware should be the same!
hploco
07-26-2004, 07:15 PM
Tons of people switch switch between the V300/400/500/600 firmwares. I never really hear about people doing it with a Sprint phone though...
Motorola Has tons of differnt Firmewares for there phones.
Example:
I used to have a V60I, CDMA of course, that I "acedentaly" flashed with a V60c Firm. (Done in D.R. to be able to change the MSL.) It worked but without the games and other extras that the V60I version has.
This would be the same thing as Flashing your comp BIOS if it's not supported you would damage the MotherBoard.
......
Technically, you can put the 7200 software in the 4900, but it becomes unstable and it re-arranges the buttons (for example, the menu button is no longer for the menu etc..).
Getting someone to be willing to do that is the easy part (which isn't too easy).
......
Let's say, hypothetically, you are able to successfully put the 7300 software in the 5400, first, you'd have no support for it since it wasn't designed to have the 7300 software.
..............
Not only th at, the system knows what phone you have by the ESN. Say the esn of your 5400 is ABCD1234. The system knows it's a 5400, which does not have SMS support, so the system itself would not allow you to put SMS on that line (pointless to allow a feature that a phone can't support that feature).
Personally, I wouldn't do it. .
1- Well since they are both Sanyo phones there is a 35% of a chance that it will work, but the 65% is such a great risk!!!!!
2- I would do it, on testing ground and not held responsable for any damage, everything put down in writting.
3- Now about the ESN there are programs out there that can do this heck I know a "friend" that can change the ESN numbers of any Motorola or Samsung Phone, he has the original programs.
need bb
07-26-2004, 10:06 PM
So 1.034SP is the new firmware?
TProphet
07-26-2004, 11:29 PM
Wirelessly posted (Sanyo 7200: Mozilla/4.0 (MobilePhone SCP-7200/US/1.0) NetFront/3.0 MMP/2.0)
It's entirely pointless to do this for the reasons you describe. On the back end, you're either in the Short Mail or SMS system. Nothing you do to the handset will change that, so even he you hack in SMS, you can't use it. This won't work, don't risk it!
SoloDogg
07-26-2004, 11:34 PM
is that so? is that why you can use a 5500 to send short mail if you know the URL to the short mail page?? it's an SMS capable phone!? Trust me, it can be done
jeff94
11-08-2004, 11:29 PM
I would love to have the short mail url. If anyone can find it on their pre-sms phone, i want to try it and see if i can send some from my vm4050. thanks.
MisterFuhrman
11-12-2004, 11:06 PM
By the way, you CAN put anything on any account, you just have to get a rep that doesn't know what they are doing. Those reps are usually kids in a call center in some college town. I used to work for a third party retailer, and our program would let you put RL on any phone and Vision on a Nokia 3585/3588 (Non-Vision phone).
ready4URlink
02-09-2006, 10:04 AM
I would love to have the short mail url. If anyone can find it on their pre-sms phone, i want to try it and see if i can send some from my vm4050. thanks.
I'm not sure if it's already been posted.. but here's the Short Mail URL link...point your WAP browser to this addy, and you're in. So, if you feel like not using your SMS or if you just want to go "Prehistoric" and send Short Mail Messages.... at least you've options. haha
http://smwl.uc.sprintpcs.com/sml/wap.do
Also, if you for some reason have/had a camera phone with the Picture Mail Pack, and you had to downgrade to a phone with no camera...you can still download/assign your pictures from the PictureMail Website as you normally would from the "Online Albums" menu with your former camera phone with a non-camera phone.
http://www.pictures.sprintpcs.com
it works just fine, no need to type in "wap."
Hope this helps someone... :bang:
Jaggrey
02-09-2006, 05:19 PM
sweet thanks
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