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rjmoose
05-18-2004, 01:23 AM
This is NOT a joke:

I will pay the first person $100 to figure out how to get the Nokia 6225 to connect as a Wireless Modem using #777, a data cable, and a Computer running Windows XP or equivalent. :(

I am sooooooooooooooo frustrated and I want to use this stupid phone as a wireless modem and have tried everything that I thought would work.

I am making this offer for the next 15 days.

Anyone who knows me on this forums knows that I am a man of my word.

Anybody else want to contribute to the "pot"? :hee:

rjmoose

michelle
05-18-2004, 01:27 AM
wow moosey. still tryin eh.

rjmoose
05-18-2004, 01:29 AM
wow moosey. still tryin eh.

I am on a mission!!!!!

michelle
05-18-2004, 01:34 AM
good luck! you'll need it good buddy! :D

jimmyjames
05-18-2004, 01:38 AM
I figured that you were offering $100 to anyone who actually decided to keep the 6225 after their 14-day trial period. :)

Seriously though, I was never able to get either of mine to connect to #777 using the IR port, but never had a cable to try. Have you confirmed with Sprint that the phone is not being rejected by the network on purpose (similar to the 35KB limit placed on the 4050 by the network)?

michelle
05-18-2004, 01:41 AM
sorry to veer off topic but how are you dealing with the 35k limit jimster? did you ever get picture share problems because of it?

SL10
05-18-2004, 01:58 AM
Good Luck!

ronrigo
05-18-2004, 02:13 AM
Wirelessly posted (Toshiba VM4050: VM4050/132.037 UP.Browser/6.2.2.4.e.1.100 (GUI) MMP/2.0)

I never knew the nokia had a problem connecting to the web with a data cable? Is this the only vision enabled phone that is like this? What exactly happens when you try to connect to the web with a data cable?

Blu3Fr0g
05-18-2004, 02:19 AM
Also keep in mind that using a laptop on an unlimited plan violates the TOS for unlimited vision and that Sprint will cancel your unlimited vision.

With that being said, have you tried logging in to your Sprint account at www.sprintpcs.com and looking under your account for the software? The Sprint connection manager software should contain the right driver and everything you need to connect.

jared982
05-18-2004, 02:31 AM
If you are using the cable you have to set it to serial. Not USB! That might be your problem. (Thats if you are using the cable)

plik
05-18-2004, 07:08 AM
Anybody willing to donate a 6225 + a data cable? I'd be more than willing to return it after 15 days- whether or not I figure out #777.

R2X
05-18-2004, 08:37 AM
I think that the "Serial option" might be it, but i don't own one, i remember i had this problem when i owned a I330...

Basicly instead of saying its coming from a usb port, you pick serial and then it works :-/.

jared982
05-18-2004, 09:23 AM
I think that the "Serial option" might be it, but i don't own one, i remember i had this problem when i owned a I330...

Basicly instead of saying its coming from a usb port, you pick serial and then it works :-/.

You copy cat. I said that first. LOL!

jimmyjames
05-18-2004, 09:30 AM
sorry to veer off topic but how are you dealing with the 35k limit jimster? did you ever get picture share problems because of it?
I don't have a 35K limit, but I never had a picture share problem when I had a 4050.

Has anyone tried the "serial option" fix? It doesn't sound like it will work since the error is the same as when connecting over IR.

rjmoose
05-18-2004, 10:34 PM
FYI, I know it violates the TOS, but I just want to use it as a backup connection, not as my sole means of connecting to the Internet.

Also, proposed solutions that I have tried, but don't work:

1. Change connection to Serial: Does not work.

2. Use Sprint Connection Software: Does not have the driver for the Nokia
6225 and therefore does not even recognize it.

3. Leave User Name and Password blank: Does not work.

4. Put in "web" and "web" for user name and password as per a Tier 2 Tech
Support Rep I spoke to on Sunday: Does not work.

5. Put in my user name and password...you guessed it...does not work.


$120?

jimmyjames
05-18-2004, 10:40 PM
Were you able to confirm with the Tier 2 Tech that the phone wasn't being rejected purposefully by the network?

rjmoose
05-18-2004, 10:41 PM
Have you confirmed with Sprint that the phone is not being rejected by the network on purpose (similar to the 35KB limit placed on the 4050 by the network)?

JJ:

That is definitely a possibility, but the big question would be...WHY?

Could it be because they CAN with Nokia phones i.e. 3588i and 3585i and not with other manufacturer's?

rj

rjmoose
05-18-2004, 10:44 PM
Were you able to confirm with the Tier 2 Tech that the phone wasn't being rejected purposefully by the network?

I am kinda afraid to ask them...how should I phrase it?

Also, I bet they would not even have a clue...my guess is that I would get more information from this forum than from Sprint...that's usually the case. :hee:

dennispg
05-18-2004, 10:46 PM
i made a post on a different thread about this.. i got it to get past the authentication phase with dialup networking in xp by setting my vision password on sprintpcs.com... im using IR not the dku usb cable.

after the authentication phase, it gives me an error message about the remote computer not responding in a timely manner. my feeling is that its because of the ir, and it might work with the usb cable. am i wrong, and is this the same error everyone else has been getting? or is this progress?

jimmyjames
05-18-2004, 10:49 PM
JJ:

That is definitely a possibility, but the big question would be...WHY?

Could it be because they CAN with Nokia phones i.e. 3588i and 3585i and not with other manufacturer's?

rj
Could be. Why did they put a network limitation of 35K on the 4050? Maybe it was to prevent people from trying to access a bunch of HTML websites to take advantage of the QVGA screen and ultra-fast processor. Maybe not. Sprint has been known to cripple phones for what seems like no good reason.

rjmoose
05-18-2004, 10:58 PM
i made a post on a different thread about this.. i got it to get past the authentication phase with dialup networking in xp by setting my vision password on sprintpcs.com... im using IR not the dku usb cable.

after the authentication phase, it gives me an error message about the remote computer not responding in a timely manner. my feeling is that its because of the ir, and it might work with the usb cable. am i wrong, and is this the same error everyone else has been getting? or is this progress?


Tried that with the data cable and I got a "781 remote networking error".

What pisses me off the most is the Nokia Connectivity Guide uses #777 as the example of the number you need to dial to connect wirelessley to your service provider...This has become a QUEST!!!

"This is no longer a Family Vacation, it's a Quest...a Quest for F_cking Fun!!!"

Leo
05-24-2004, 10:36 AM
I am posting my email dialog with Sprint Customer Service. I thought their service has improved until this conversation. They want to sell me new services, and deny that it's possible to dial #777 to get internet access.
As a remark - I just recently purchased 2 Nokia 6225 phones with one of goals - to be able to connect to internet via infrared port.

My question to the forum members:
HAS ANYONE RECENTLY ACCESSED INTERNET VIA #777, NO MATTER WHAT PHONE?
Below is the chain of emails. Read, have fun and enjoy. :hee:

------------------------------

I would like to thank you for giving me an opportunity to assist you
about using your handset as a modem.

Upon review of your account I noticed that you have Unlimited PCS Vision
access available on your phones. Our Unlimited Vision plans permit you
to gain Internet access through the handset only. Please understand
that you will not be able to connect your handset to a computer to use
as a modem to access Internet.

We do offer Data Cards that allow you to connect a laptop or personal
computing device to Sprint network. These Data Cards can only be
activated on a new subscription. I noticed that your account is
eligible to have only two phones. You already have two phones on your
account. Therefore, please understand that you will not be able to use
your handset as a modem to access Internet.

Thank you for contacting us, and please let us know if you have any
further questions. We are here to serve you.

Tammy B.
eCare


Original Message Follows:
------------------------

Hello,

in the email below you suggest that I buy a data card for internet access in Sprint wireless network. Thank you, but that's not what I want.

I want to be able to use my phone as a modem to access the web. In the 2G era, when I had my old Touchpoint phone, Sprint used to sell cables so that I could connect to the internet though that phone using the cable and the Sprint dialer. I didn't want to purchase $60 cable. Now that I have Nokia 6225 with infrared connectivity with the PC (one of the reasons I bought this particular phone), I would like to access the web though my phone using infrared connection between the phone and the PC. Since the phone already has internet in it, it should be no problem for Sprint.

Now, in my previous email, I refer to numerous cases where people actually use their phones to connect to internet this way. I tried to do the same, my phone dials #777 and my settings have no username and no password, just like in the instructions I got. But my computer gets "username and password not recognized" reply from Sprint network. I know it's not the phone, the phone does its job and dials as I tell it.

So what I 'm trying to get from Sprint Customer Service now is - I would like to connect my PC to internet via my phone which I already have. Please let me know how do I need to setup everything and what am I doing wrong now because I can't get internet connection via my phone right now.

Appreciate your help,

thanks,

>
>This is in response to your concern about using your Vision-enabled PCS
>Phone as a modem and apologize for the misinformation provided to you in
>our previous correspondence.
>
>Upon review of your account I noticed that you have Unlimited PCS Vision
>access available for your subscription number. Our
>Unlimited Vision plans permit you to gain Internet access through the
>handset only. If you wish to access Internet on your laptop, we have
>special Data Cards and metered plans, which you can opt for.
>
>A Data Card is a device that allows you to connect a laptop or personal
>computing device to Sprint network. These cards can be data only or data
>and voice. You may visit a Sprint Store to check out a Data Card, which
>may be plugged into your laptop for wireless access with the purchase of
>a separate Data plan.
>
>Alternatively, you can also visit the following hyperlink to see the
>data cards offered by us:
>
>http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/PhonesAccessories/Conne ctionCards.jsp
>
>For using a Data Card, you need to have a data plan on your PCS Account.
>You can view the Data Plans by clicking on the hyperlink given below and
>entering the area zip code:
>
>http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/servicePlansOptionsV2/D ataPlans.jsp
>
>You will be able to enjoy the benefits of this option by activating it
>as an additional subscription on the account. To do so, simply visit the
>nearest Sprint Store or contact us at 1-888-211-4727.
>
>We appreciate your business.
>
>Aldis P.
>eCare
>
>
>Original Message Follows:
>------------------------
><P>In the manual for Nokia 6225 from <A
>href="http://www.nokia.com">www.nokia.com</A>, it is mentioned that
>Nokia 6225 phone can be used as a modem to connect to the internet.
>Infrared is just the link between the cell phone and the computer.</P>
><P>on webforum <A
>href="http://www.sprintusers.com">www.sprintusers.com& lt;/A> I see that
>other other users with phones by Sanyo and Samsung are using their
>phones to connect to the web. Cell phone is used as wireless modem.
>Those guys connect to cell phones via USB cable. They connect to sprint
>web network by dialing #777. I do the same thing, with one exception - I
>connect to phone via infrared. I added advanced modem initialization
>string, according to Nokia's manual, it is (for 3G packet data)
>AT+CRM=1;+CSO=33. On the same forum <A
>href="http://www.sprintusers.com">www.sprintusers.com& lt;/A> it is
>mentioned that the username and password fields are blank. People
>actually connect their laptops to internet via their Sprint phones.</P>
><P>In my case, laptop sends signal "dial" to Nokia 6225, I can see on
>Nokia's screen "dialing #777", then computer says "verifying username
>and password" and on Nokia's screen there is "send - receive" arrows.
>Then computer says "unable to verify username and password" and phone
>turns off the connection.</P>
><P>What am I doing wrong?</P>

>Thank you for contacting Sprint about your phone. Please
>be informed
>that it is not possible to&nbsp;&nbsp;connect to the
>internet using your laptop
>via your Nokia 6225 infrared capability.
>Even if you have a Vision plan, the phone has an
>independent wireless
>connection technology called WAP(Wireless Application
>Protocol) that is
>different from a personal computer or laptops. Infrared
>is for data
>transfer and not for internet connection.
>Furthermore, PC's or laptops have a different internet
>connection
>technology. Most Laptops use a Wi-Fi radio technology to
>connect to the
>web. Wireless networks are becoming common in cities and
>towns
>worldwide. Internet cafes and coffee shops are
>popping up everywhere
>like in public areas such as airports, hotels and
>convention centers or
>anywhere people gather.&nbsp;&nbsp;Some wireless HotSpot
>networks require you to
>manually configure your access connection; others work
>with your Wi-Fi
>radio to automatically log on.
>If your laptop does not have this capability, you may
>purchase the Wi-Fi
>(802.11b) wireless Network Interface Cards (NICs) which
>are available
>from major networking vendors such as Lucent, Nokia,
>Cisco, 3Com, Intel,
>Sony, Symbol, Xircom and Buffalo atelectronic
>stores. NICs are also
>available through many on-line vendors. Laptops also
>contain the 802.11b
>technology.
>Please be informed that Sprint does not currently promote
>any Wi-Fi
>(802.11b) wireless NIC in conjunction with our service.
>I appreciate you emailing us today.
>Justin S.
>eCare
>Question:
>I want to connect my laptop to internet through my new
>Nokia 6225
>through
>infrared connection. I
>have Windows XP on my laptop. What do I need to do? How
>can I set it up?
>I have Vision on my plan.

dennispg
05-24-2004, 03:05 PM
that response is not much of a surprise leo... they specifically say in their agreement terms, i think, that using a laptop with an unlimited vision plan is a violation. so no way they would provide support to tell you how to do it. while i dont think it should be in the agreement terms in the first place, i do think we're lucky they let most people get away with it anyway as long as theyre not abusive.

so i was playing around some more with trying to get infrared to work, and i changed the connection type from PPP to SLIP and it connected. Of course, i couldnt actually do anything after that but it was cool to see it say connected. vision has to be ppp and thats the only way it will work, im assuming thats right.

i got a serial port sniffer to check out whats going on after the authentication phase of ppp successfully completes. the error i keep getting after winxp says registering compuer on the network was the remote server timed out in waiting for a response. but the server is sending data, so i dont know whats going on. i need a ppp dissector now to make any sense of it.

this has to work! i am determined to make it work!

rjmoose
05-24-2004, 10:31 PM
well, there is $100 waiting for you to make it work

Leo
05-25-2004, 03:17 PM
My WinXP settings are: PPP, receive IP address automatically. Dialup connection is via infrared modem. The phone actually gets the data from the laptop and starts dialing (phones says "dialing #777"), then I see that on phone screen the message says "sending-receiving", then blank screen then "sending-receiving" again and the icon on phone actually displays some data being received, then another message on phone screen "data call ended", and computer complains that "username or password nor recognized" or something like that. Apparently, Sprint denies access.

Does anybody connect to Sprint internet via #777? Maybe it's not Nokia 6225, maybe Sprint just stopped giving access to those who dial #777?

Having infrared is still a cool feature, I can transfer files/application back and forth, but I really wanted to have the internet capability.

jimmyjames
05-25-2004, 05:29 PM
#777 works on every other Vision phone, so that's not it.

Leo
05-29-2004, 10:22 AM
#777 works on every other Vision phone, so that's not it.

that is true.

Connected my old Samsung VGA1000, bought FutureDial cable. Internet on #777 works like a charm! Installation of everything took less than 5 minutes!!! Currently posting from this Samsung phone. Sorry to say I love my Nokia 6225 but if I can't get it to connect to the web until tomorrow (my wife has another one just like that), we are taking our Nokias back to the store.

goodeye18
05-29-2004, 11:11 AM
Wirelessly posted (Nokia PM6225: NOKIA-RH-27/V H125V1000.nep.0 UP.Browser/6.2.2.1.c.1.102 (GUI) MMP/2.0)

I was able to connect my tungsten e and my 6225 not by #777 but via my internet provider i use. I was able to surf to anypage. It looked like it used vison even though the data call was to another provider

worker4youth
05-29-2004, 12:08 PM
Wirelessly posted (Nokia PM6225: NOKIA-RH-27/V H125V1000.nep.0 UP.Browser/6.2.2.1.c.1.102 (GUI) MMP/2.0)

I was able to connect my tungsten e and my 6225 not by #777 but via my internet provider i use. I was able to surf to anypage. It looked like it used vison even though the data call was to another provider


Hate to tell you, you were not using Vision...you'll be charged 39 cents a minute.

nttdemented
05-30-2004, 01:01 PM
Wouldn't he just be charged air time minutes?

Zeke
05-30-2004, 09:20 PM
I think I may be near to a solution to this problem. I am able to make an IR connection from my Toshiba E755 PocketPC to my Nokia 6225, and authenticate. however, it looks like I then have no name resolution. Could someone who has a PC working with #777 on some other kind of Sprint phone make a connection and then run "ipconfig /all" and provide me with the DNS servers, default gateway, and IP they received? We might get there yet. If I can get it working I will immediately post my methods here for all.

texict
06-04-2004, 11:49 PM
I think I may be near to a solution to this problem. I am able to make an IR connection from my Toshiba E755 PocketPC to my Nokia 6225, and authenticate. however, it looks like I then have no name resolution. Could someone who has a PC working with #777 on some other kind of Sprint phone make a connection and then run "ipconfig /all" and provide me with the DNS servers, default gateway, and IP they received? We might get there yet. If I can get it working I will immediately post my methods here for all.

I have connect via IR on my notebook to my 6225. I use qnc and qnc for username and password. I can connect fine but no data or name resolution. As for ip info. IP = 10.8.70.40, subnet = 255.255.255.255, default gateway = 10.8.70.40. It appears to be some sort of internal ip. I can ping it but nothing else. Shows good connection speed , but get no name resoultion no can I ping any know external ip. Hope this help you figure out a solution.

Zeke
06-05-2004, 04:28 PM
I have connect via IR on my notebook to my 6225. I use qnc and qnc for username and password. I can connect fine but no data or name resolution. As for ip info. IP = 10.8.70.40, subnet = 255.255.255.255, default gateway = 10.8.70.40. It appears to be some sort of internal ip. I can ping it but nothing else. Shows good connection speed , but get no name resoultion no can I ping any know external ip. Hope this help you figure out a solution.

I have done the same thing, and received similar bogus DHCP settings. What I need are valid Sprint PCS DNS server IP's, subnet masks, etc. This will have to come from someone who is connecting wired with a phone other than a Nokia 6225. From a connection that actually works. Anybody?

nttdemented
06-05-2004, 05:44 PM
If I dial up to a dial-up ISP wouldn't I just be charged air-time minutes for the call? Would I really get charged 39c/min ?!?!?

madmac
06-06-2004, 10:28 PM
If I dial up to a dial-up ISP wouldn't I just be charged air-time minutes for the call? Would I really get charged 39c/min ?!?!?

You get charged 39 cents a minute plus airtime.

nttdemented
06-07-2004, 01:31 AM
Dang... Well I did a little 10 minutes dial-up test yesterday night (unlimited air-time). I'll wait for my bill and see. That just sounds outrageous :eyebrow:

texict
06-07-2004, 10:29 AM
Friend of mine used a diff phone and cable to connect. His did not require a username or password. His DNS setting 68.25.101.199 and 68.25.82.11. I have not tried yet. Also, I get a 10.8 ip address on my phone and he got a 68.25 address.

BTW, I have to use the qnc, qnc username and password to connect. Is this common?


Hope this helps someone figure this out.

gbod
06-08-2004, 12:48 AM
Got it! I've been following this thread for the past week after buying my 6225 and having the same disappointing results. Google revealed that the correct number to dial is #2932, using "web" as username & password. Give it a shot...

rjmoose
06-08-2004, 01:20 AM
Got it! I've been following this thread for the past week after buying my 6225 and having the same disappointing results. Google revealed that the correct number to dial is #2932, using "web" as username & password. Give it a shot...

that is the old wireless web code...You will get charged 39 cents a minute and your connection will be limited to 14.4kbps

gbod
06-08-2004, 08:38 AM
Ahhh. I had always used my own ISP. Didn't realize this option existed.

I tried the DNS servers from #2932 (207.15.68.36 & 207.15.68.164) and they worked on #777. Still no access to the web, but perhaps one step closer to a solution.

texict
06-09-2004, 07:05 PM
Glad I checked back. He is right and it does work. Glad I used for only a few minutes for testing.

How do you know they worked if you could not get to web?

gbod
06-10-2004, 10:04 AM
I was able to resolve domain names to IP addresses, so I knew the dns server was working. However, I still couldn't get my web browser to download any data. Glad to hear it worked! My 14 days were up, so I traded the 6225 for a Sanyo 8200. Excellent phone, but no IR port.

shumacher
06-12-2004, 09:46 AM
Okay, to recap....
What people are doing is entering nothing for password and username, setting the number to be dialed to #777 and using the primary dns 207.15.68.30 and secondary 207.15.68.164? Does this work through IR, DKU5 or both?

Here's a thought:
On the 6225, hit ##DATA#
Select "Browser Settings"
"Gateway"
"Gateway 1"
"Primary"
And copy the IP address and port number there into your browser as a proxy server.

sbwinter2
06-17-2004, 07:42 PM
This is probably not worthy of $100, but here is the lowdown. I called high level tech support of both Nokia and Sprint. Nokia confirms that the phone is completely able and ready to be used as a modem via that method. The drivers do not exist for this phone, though, because Sprint does not support this type of data service yet. Nokia has something in their notes that states this. Sprint acknowldges that this is true and states that they are working on developing those drives that will support the 3G (1XRTT) method, but they don't know when that will be completed ("could be one month, could be five"), although the guy thought it would be less than a year. So that's it - no more trial and error. It doesn't work at all for now no matter what you do, until . . . .

3G Cables
06-17-2004, 11:46 PM
This is probably not worthy of $100, but here is the lowdown. I called high level tech support of both Nokia and Sprint. Nokia confirms that the phone is completely able and ready to be used as a modem via that method. The drivers do not exist for this phone, though, because Sprint does not support this type of data service yet. Nokia has something in their notes that states this. Sprint acknowldges that this is true and states that they are working on developing those drives that will support the 3G (1XRTT) method, but they don't know when that will be completed ("could be one month, could be five"), although the guy thought it would be less than a year. So that's it - no more trial and error. It doesn't work at all for now no matter what you do, until . . . .

They also don’t have any incentive to make the drivers as they(Sprint) do not support Data Cable linking. So they may make a driver, but they will take their time. Wish it wasn’t this way, but that is the reality.

shumacher
06-17-2004, 11:56 PM
They offered bluetooth linking with the T608... why couldn't they offer it through IR with the PM-6225? Some fixed pool of vision megabytes for a fixed price would be a good strategy!

3G Cables
06-18-2004, 01:25 AM
They offered bluetooth linking with the T608... why couldn't they offer it through IR with the PM-6225? Some fixed pool of vision megabytes for a fixed price would be a good strategy!

Totally different drivers and Bluetooth and IR are much slower data transfer rates than a cable. Good strategy sure, but Sprint would not do that.

The Bluetooth and IR connections are not made for internet usage. They are made for phone book transfers and the like. You can use it as an internet connection but they are very unstable and slow. I have done it myself many times.

MrTchMan
06-18-2004, 01:35 AM
Totally different drivers and Bluetooth and IR are much slower data transfer rates than a cable. Good strategy sure, but Sprint would not do that.

The Bluetooth and IR connections are not made for internet usage. They are made for phone book transfers and the like. You can use it as an internet connection but they are very unstable and slow. I have done it myself many times.

True, but sprints data speeds will not max out Bluetooth capabilities.

MTM

3G Cables
06-18-2004, 01:50 AM
True, but sprints data speeds will not max out Bluetooth capabilities.

MTM

Incorrect. I have already maxed it out. Bluetooth maximum throughput states 144k/sec but it is slower than that in practicality. I have gotten speeds up to 230k/sec with my cable.

MrTchMan
06-18-2004, 03:23 AM
Incorrect. I have already maxed it out. Bluetooth maximum throughput states 144k/sec but it is slower than that in practicality. I have gotten speeds up to 230k/sec with my cable.

Your cable may say that, but what do you really connect. You are misleading people and it is not right

3G Cables
06-18-2004, 07:00 AM
Your cable may say that, but what do you really connect. You are misleading people and it is not right

I have connected and seen speeds personally of 228k/sec with a speed tests on line. I am sorry if you don’t believe me but that is what I have seen.

I am not misleading anybody. There is tons of discussion on how the on-line speed test may not be accurate also. All I can tell you is honestly what I have seen with my own eyes.

Never would I mislead anyone. You can read all my post and you can see I am here to help.

I have personally worked as a TSR rep for Sprint and I do know what I am talking about. I am not just making random comments.

3G Cables
06-18-2004, 07:14 AM
I have connected and seen speeds personally of 228k/sec with a speed tests on line. I am sorry if you don’t believe me but that is what I have seen.

I am not misleading anybody. There is tons of discussion on how the on-line speed test may not be accurate also. All I can tell you is honestly what I have seen with my own eyes.

Never would I mislead anyone. You can read all my post and you can see I am here to help.

I have personally worked as a TSR rep for Sprint and I do know what I am talking about. I am not just making random comments.

Actually I am really glad you brought this up. I just ran a test with my cable and my VM4050 with Sprint Vision service. I got :

133 kbit/sec
1.678s latency
13.645s d/l time

That is a copy and paste of the data I received from http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed

This is a specific speed test for mobile phones.

No, it’s not 230k this time but I have low signal strength. I guarantee you will not even get 133kbit/sec with Bluetooth.

MrTchMan
06-18-2004, 12:04 PM
I am still not beleiving you. There are many users here who will agree with me. You need to stop misleading users here. You will usally see speeds of 50-80 kbs and bursts up to 144. Bluetooth has plenty of bandwidth for this right now.

Thanks and Have a Great Day

MTM

bshrode
06-18-2004, 03:01 PM
yeah, I'd have to agree. I've seen bursts at up to 140 before, but my usual throughput with a cable is between 50-80k. I've never had a sustained connection at anywhere near 130k.

-Bryan

3G Cables
06-18-2004, 03:20 PM
yeah, I'd have to agree. I've seen bursts at up to 140 before, but my usual throughput with a cable is between 50-80k. I've never had a sustained connection at anywhere near 130k.

-Bryan

I am sorry guys but I am being 100% honest. I challenge anyone in the Los Angeles area to meet with me and I will show a live demonstration.

texict
06-22-2004, 02:36 PM
I think I may have to disagree that it does not work as a modem. If I dial the #2932 number, it works fine as a modem, but get charged per minute. If it works this way as a modem via IR, assume it more to do with #777 and the user account then the phone.

CodyDH
06-23-2004, 12:46 PM
To settle the argument about vision speeds (in LA), post a screenshot, showing both your phone connection being active, and your download speeds.

Cody

RedFoxx
06-29-2004, 06:59 PM
This is NOT a joke:

I will pay the first person $100 to figure out how to get the Nokia 6225 to connect as a Wireless Modem using #777, a data cable, and a Computer running Windows XP or equivalent. :(

I am sooooooooooooooo frustrated and I want to use this stupid phone as a wireless modem and have tried everything that I thought would work.

I am making this offer for the next 15 days.

Anyone who knows me on this forums knows that I am a man of my word.

Anybody else want to contribute to the "pot"? :hee:

rjmoose

I have a Samsung A680 a great phone. The phone drivers won't let me get online, after reading Howardforums, I figured out that the FutureDial USB modem drivers work great. You can download the drivers from the website and use the drivers under the window98 directory for any windows platform. The drivers can be found at http://www.futuredial.com/support/download/USB%20Installer.exe After you download then load the FutureDial USB modem in place of the Nokia driver. Then setup dialup networking to dail #777 using you vision user name w/@sprintpcs.com and password. This might work as it does for the Samsung.

Good luck

You can paypal me!!

rjmoose
06-30-2004, 01:22 AM
I am making this offer for the next 15 days


Original thread date: 05-17-2004, 11:23 PM :o

texict
06-30-2004, 08:44 AM
The future dial does not have the 6225 listed. Can I selected a different Nokia?

rpmoose
07-01-2004, 07:10 PM
The future dial does not have the 6225 listed. Can I selected a different Nokia?

Try using the drivers in the win98 directory, see if that works. The drivers are Hitachi, but its worth a try...

My 6225 will now try and connect to #777 but it always rejects the username/password.

sbwinter2
07-02-2004, 07:39 PM
To repeat what I said earlier in this discussion, the problem is not with the phone. Sprint has not finished developing the driver that will aloow the 6225 to use the 777 technique. If you talk to Sprint customer service, they will tell you that. They are currently working on it and when it is available it will be downloadable from both Sprint's and Nokia's website. So you all can continue to try all you want, but without the correct dirver, the 777 method will not work.

3G Cables
07-02-2004, 08:35 PM
To repeat what I said earlier in this discussion, the problem is not with the phone. Sprint has not finished developing the driver that will aloow the 6225 to use the 777 technique. If you talk to Sprint customer service, they will tell you that. They are currently working on it and when it is available it will be downloadable from both Sprint's and Nokia's website. So you all can continue to try all you want, but without the correct dirver, the 777 method will not work.

I have also tried to explain this to people but they seem to always think there is a solution or some way to hack the ini file. Sorry people, there is no driver as stated before for this phone to be used as a modem. It will be well known all over the net when/if it is available.

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Leo
07-04-2004, 10:15 AM
This is link to Nokia PC Suite.
There is driver for IR connectivity for phone book, jar & midi transfer, but no modem driver.
http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,54692,00.html

jared982
07-04-2004, 02:54 PM
has anyone tried the 6220 IR drivers or the 6200 IR drivers?

jared982
07-04-2004, 02:56 PM
To repeat what I said earlier in this discussion, the problem is not with the phone. Sprint has not finished developing the driver that will aloow the 6225 to use the 777 technique. If you talk to Sprint customer service, they will tell you that. They are currently working on it and when it is available it will be downloadable from both Sprint's and Nokia's website. So you all can continue to try all you want, but without the correct dirver, the 777 method will not work.

Do you have any info about when (time wise) that driver will be released? AND will the 3205 have the correct drivers on it?

texict
07-05-2004, 05:19 PM
I got mine to work using the old 2932 number via IR as a modem. You all are saying it does not work as a modem, but it will. It is expensive, but it will work. What is the difference, besides cost, of 777 and 2932?????

JJ2K5
07-05-2004, 07:01 PM
I got mine to work using the old 2932 number via IR as a modem. You all are saying it does not work as a modem, but it will. It is expensive, but it will work. What is the difference, besides cost, of 777 and 2932?????
I hope that you're not serious.

texict
07-05-2004, 09:56 PM
Try it. Earlier in this thread someone told me how. It works and I have those damn extra minutes on my bill to prove it. Find his post and try it. Be prepared for it to work and to be billed. I got it to work using it as a modem for my notebook and for my pocketPC.

That is why I am confused. People say this phone does not work as a modem. It does, just not using 777. I can get it to connect, just does not want to give me an ip address that allows me to do anything. Using the other number, I get valid ip, dns, etc. so I am having a hard time understanding why 777 does not work.

Anyone in this thread, try the other number. It works. Can anyone explain the difference???????

Zyrix
07-08-2004, 02:27 PM
Don't know if anyone mentioned this yet but I found somthing that might be interesting.
http://www.nokia-asia.com/nokia/0,,55217,00.html#modem
has all the drivers including the modem driver down at the bottom, has anyone tried this, maybe it will work for I/R I'm really interested in this topic because I'm thinking of buying a 6225.

Zyrix
07-08-2004, 02:59 PM
Mobile 8 out of some other country also supports the 6225 found a page that has a driver, and looks like the #777 thing is how they do it too.

http://www.mobile-8.com/nokiamodem.html

hope you can read another language... :D

maharajja
07-08-2004, 03:51 PM
Don't know if anyone mentioned this yet but I found somthing that might be interesting.
http://www.nokia-asia.com/nokia/0,,55217,00.html#modem
has all the drivers including the modem driver down at the bottom, has anyone tried this, maybe it will work for I/R I'm really interested in this topic because I'm thinking of buying a 6225.
IR has never been a problem. You won't be able to connect to #777 with those drivers. Lots of people have tried for the past few months.

Your second post looks very promising though. Anyone with a 6225 care to give that 1xRTT driver a try?

lgmayka
07-08-2004, 06:32 PM
I assume that everyone has already tried all the software here:

http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/software/6225/

Are you all using the USB cable or the serial cable?

A friend of mine has this phone, and has just purchased the serial cable. According to Nokia's instructions, he should be able to install it easily as a 3G Data Modem using the Nokia 6225 Modem Software (a 27KB nmpCDMA1xRTT.inf). This .inf file specifically offers a modem choice of Nokia CDMA 1xRTT 3G Packet Data Modem. Have you all already done this, and for some reason #777 doesn't work?

mikec
07-08-2004, 06:40 PM
IR has never been a problem. You won't be able to connect to #777 with those drivers. Lots of people have tried for the past few months.

Your second post looks very promising though. Anyone with a 6225 care to give that 1xRTT driver a try?

Both those drivers look the same...but the file sizes are not the same.

Hmmm...were you suggesting to try the driver from the mobile-8 site?

dennispg
07-09-2004, 08:59 AM
I have also tried to explain this to people but they seem to always think there is a solution or some way to hack the ini file. Sorry people, there is no driver as stated before for this phone to be used as a modem. It will be well known all over the net when/if it is available.

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when you say 'driver' in this context... do you mean software in the phone itself which sprint must update to be able to use 3G, or a windows/linux/whatever-os driver?

on that note... is there any place where the software developers of this phone can be influenced to make changes? there are some really annoying things in this phone. like not being able to silence the text message ring if the phone is locked. annoying! and not being able to set downloaded ringers as personalized per number. ***? my list could go on for a while.... :mad:

lgmayka
07-09-2004, 09:13 AM
The 27KB driver (Nokia 6225 Modem Software) on this page

http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/software/6225/

certainly claims and appears to install the phone (with RS232 serial cable) as a CDMA 3G 1xRTT modem. My friend, who actually has the phone, has not reported back as to whether this modem driver actually makes #777 calls successfully.

shumacher
07-09-2004, 09:40 AM
when you say 'driver' in this context... do you mean software in the phone itself which sprint must update to be able to use 3G, or a windows/linux/whatever-os driver?

on that note... is there any place where the software developers of this phone can be influenced to make changes? there are some really annoying things in this phone. like not being able to silence the text message ring if the phone is locked. annoying! and not being able to set downloaded ringers as personalized per number. ***? my list could go on for a while.... :mad:
The inability to add a downloaded picture to a phone book entry seems to be related in some way to the attributes of the image. Images downloaded with Focus, rumkin.com and even directly from Sprint's downloads don't seem to work. I did find that shared photos do work. When I switched to the 6225, I had photos stored online that had been taken with a VGA 1000 and with a PM8200. I had no problem associating those photos with a contact listing. I've also understood that photos sent to the phone via the DKU5 or an IR connection using either Nokia PC Suite 5 or Oxygen Phone Manager software can be associated with contacts, but I've not tried this.

Now, the Treo 600 allows the user to upload arbitrary photos to the pictures.sprintpcs.com site, but I no longer have the 6225 on my account, and don't want to have to own a Treo 600 just to put images on my 6225... :)

dennispg
07-09-2004, 10:53 AM
The 27KB driver (Nokia 6225 Modem Software) on this page

http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/software/6225/

certainly claims and appears to install the phone (with RS232 serial cable) as a CDMA 3G 1xRTT modem. My friend, who actually has the phone, has not reported back as to whether this modem driver actually makes #777 calls successfully.

that driver doesnt work. it doesnt even recognize as a device once installed, because it doesnt use the correct device identifier. you can fix that and make it recognize the device by changing the ini... but thats still no good. you'll get just as far as everyone else has said so far. it will connect, accept your login information, and then nothing.

someone said they talked to sprint and was told the drivers are not available yet. im assuming this means the software in the phone needs to be updated? someone tell me if im wrong about that, because if thats not the case... theres absolutely no reason a driver cannot be created by one of us.

maharajja
07-09-2004, 11:37 AM
that driver doesnt work. it doesnt even recognize as a device once installed, because it doesnt use the correct device identifier. you can fix that and make it recognize the device by changing the ini... but thats still no good. you'll get just as far as everyone else has said so far. it will connect, accept your login information, and then nothing.

someone said they talked to sprint and was told the drivers are not available yet. im assuming this means the software in the phone needs to be updated? someone tell me if im wrong about that, because if thats not the case... theres absolutely no reason a driver cannot be created by one of us.
Did you try the one from Mobile-8 and use the username and password that they recommend?

Zyrix
07-09-2004, 12:19 PM
Did you try the one from Mobile-8 and use the username and password that they recommend?

I think the username and password for Mobile-8 is just for mobile 8 (hence the mo8=MObile8)

So just for a recap what we do know is (correct me if i'm wrong):
Sprint supports #777 (most other phones use it with no problem)
The phone supports #777 (Mobile-8s usage)
Spints supports data on the phone (#whatever for the old connecton)
(and the guy who payed for a call to his isp)
The computer connects ok to the phone (Nokia's software, 3rd party)
The phone has problems w/ username password, and/or ip addr, and/or DNS crapola

So all that being said, why does Sprint allow #777 on all other phones if it violates TOS, and if you can't connect to the vision (I guess we are refering to that as the G3 network? [Bear with me I'm still trying to get the terms down]) with the phone via USB or I/R why would you be able to access it on the phone at all?

I submit that its a config problem still, in the software on the computers.
Is there a service code on the phone that we can get into?
Is there a way we can pull username/pass dns info from another phone?
And the person who posted the thing about how they called sprint, and they said somthing about a driver having being made, can you give us a little more info about that conversation?

Zyrix
07-09-2004, 01:15 PM
More intersting stuff (again with the different languages[notice the last picture])
http://www.vivo.com.br/vivozap/pdf/manual_nokia_6225_6585.pdf

Sprint connection manager anyone?
http://sprint.com/pcsbusiness/support/downloads/index.jsp

Anyone get a chance to try it on Mac?
http://www.sonosphere.com/resources/SprintPCSVision/

Has anyone tried Oxygen Phone manager?:
http://www.opm-2.com/

More nokia Info (Specifically the AT command set document):
https://secure.forum.nokia.com/main/0,6566,016-1555,00.html

The quest continues...............

lgmayka
07-18-2004, 08:28 PM
Has anyone tried the modem init string mentioned in this thread?

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=412093

Namely:

AT+CRM=1;CSO=33

Noodle
07-20-2004, 04:12 PM
*sigh* still no success with the Nokia and data cable? Such a shame it is. :(

texict
07-26-2004, 09:15 PM
My last visit to nokia site now as a new modem driver for IR but I can't get it to install on xp. Anyone else try it?

sbwinter2
07-28-2004, 09:23 PM
And the person who posted the thing about how they called sprint, and they said somthing about a driver having being made, can you give us a little more info about that conversation?

(I wrote a very nice response that got deleted by this system!!! This is try 2 - so not as good.)
When I called nokia and sprint it was before 6.2 and that inf were available. Sprint did not know when the driver would be ready. Nokia said there phones were ready to go as soon as there was a driver. With these new files, I will call Nokia again and if I get more info, I will post it.

flyrite
08-18-2004, 12:29 PM
My last visit to nokia site now as a new modem driver for IR but I can't get it to install on xp. Anyone else try it?

Are you trying to connect to your phone using the nokia software via irda? I had a problem where the connction would constantly drop out.

The fix is easy. During the minute that youe actually connects, yyou have to right click on the irda icon in the system tray -> options -> hardware tab -> properties button in the lower right -> advanced tab -> advanced tab

in the property field, click on infrared transceiver type and change the value to Vishay TD or something like that.

Works like a champ for me, and being able to edit you phone book on the computer using the Nokia software is awesome!

Zyrix
08-19-2004, 10:17 AM
Are you trying to connect to your phone using the nokia software via irda? I had a problem where the connction would constantly drop out.

The fix is easy. During the minute that youe actually connects, yyou have to right click on the irda icon in the system tray -> options -> hardware tab -> properties button in the lower right -> advanced tab -> advanced tab

in the property field, click on infrared transceiver type and change the value to Vishay TD or something like that.

Works like a champ for me, and being able to edit you phone book on the computer using the Nokia software is awesome!

Have you tried connecting to the internet over the phone with this method? Thats what we are trying to do.

sbwinter2 Have you had any luck contacting Sprint yet?

flyrite
08-19-2004, 01:34 PM
Have you tried connecting to the internet over the phone with this method? Thats what we are trying to do.

sbwinter2 Have you had any luck contacting Sprint yet?

I've tried both with my PDA and my PC. Both have the same outcome. The phone dials, connects, asks for username and password. I've tried blank blank, web web, and my vision info, but nothing. After three attempts, the call is ended. Sprint has to be blocking this in someway.

Majjic Johnson
08-19-2004, 02:17 PM
The Nokias just don't work for some reason. The 3205 is the same way. Nice avatar, btw.

Noodle
09-13-2004, 03:02 PM
Ok so I have a question about this then... is everyone here just trying to get #777 to work via just Irda or has anyone been able to get it to work with a data cable?

dennispg
10-22-2004, 06:00 PM
I have the 6225 working over IR on XP like a charm!!!
All I had to do was set the initialization string up as:
at+crm=2;+cso=33<cr>at$qcmip=1
I assume this would work over the USB cable as well?

So do I get a $100 :hee:

lgmayka
10-22-2004, 06:30 PM
Can you give the details as to exactly how you set up your phone, and your computer, to make this work? How did you tell the 6225 to listen to its infrared port? How did you tell the computer that a modem is at the other end of its infrared port?

I am asking for a friend who cannot frequent this forum. (He has the 6225, I don't.)

rpmoose
10-22-2004, 10:12 PM
Which drivers were you using? Even after using the string you suggested I've had no luck.

dennispg
10-22-2004, 10:42 PM
I let windows XP detect the phone with nothing else at all downloaded or installed... I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 with Windows XP Pro.

When I activate infrared reception on my phone and place it next to my laptop... The laptop detects a new device, and automatically installs a modem "Standard Modem over IR Link". You dont have to update the drivers on this device, the standard modem works just fine.

To set the init string, follow these steps:
Control Panel.. Phone and Modem Options...
On the Modems Tab.. Goto the properties of "Standard Modem over IR Link"
On the Advanced Tab, under Extra Initialization Commands:
enter "at+crm=2;+cso=33<cr>at$qcmip=1" without the quotes...
hit ok, ok

Now to dial into pcs vision, follow these steps:
Control Panel... Network Connections...
From the File menu.. select Create New Connection...
Hit Next...
Connect to the Internet... Next
Set up my connection manually... Next
Connect using a Dial-up modem... next
Make sure only "Standard Modem over IR Link" is checked.. Next
Type in whatever you want for ISP name, I put "Sprint PCS"
For phone number type, #777
You can leave username and password blank... and Finish

Now dial in... it works like a charm I say!!

Let me know if you need any other information... I think I can write up a driver that includes the init string if anyone really wants... Although I dont think that its that hard to follow these steps...

3G Cables
10-22-2004, 10:48 PM
I let windows XP detect the phone with nothing else at all downloaded or installed... I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 with Windows XP Pro.

When I activate infrared reception on my phone and place it next to my laptop... The laptop detects a new device, and automatically installs a modem "Standard Modem over IR Link". You dont have to update the drivers on this device, the standard modem works just fine.

To set the init string, follow these steps:
Control Panel.. Phone and Modem Options...
On the Modems Tab.. Goto the properties of "Standard Modem over IR Link"
On the Advanced Tab, under Extra Initialization Commands:
enter "at+crm=2;+cso=33<cr>at$qcmip=1" without the quotes...
hit ok, ok

Now to dial into pcs vision, follow these steps:
Control Panel... Network Connections...
From the File menu.. select Create New Connection...
Hit Next...
Connect to the Internet... Next
Set up my connection manually... Next
Connect using a Dial-up modem... next
Make sure only "Standard Modem over IR Link" is checked.. Next
Type in whatever you want for ISP name, I put "Sprint PCS"
For phone number type, #777
You can leave username and password blank... and Finish

Now dial in... it works like a charm I say!!

Let me know if you need any other information... I think I can write up a driver that includes the init string if anyone really wants... Although I dont think that its that hard to follow these steps...

I am glad to see you got it working. Now tell us what data transfer rate you get.

I got this from a very reputable source. "Ensure the infrared data transfer rate is set at 38400 bps or 57600 bps. Any faster and the connection may be too sensitive, any slower and you are not utilizing the full capabilities of the infrared (this is not linked to modem speed, so it is not necessary to reduce to 9600 bps)."

From what I gather the very fastest data transfer rate you will get is 9,600 bps which is extremely slow but will work.

I am curious to hear your real experience data transfer rates. Go here to test http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed

dennispg
10-22-2004, 11:22 PM
I went to http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed while connected with my phone... I clicked on 200k, I didnt know which one to choose... It gave me this result:

99 kbit/sec

2.183s latency
18.276s d/l time.

Thats with a connected baud rate of 115.2kbps.

It doesnt seem very finicky to me at all.. Its been working great. In fact, I am posting this message with my phone right now. :hee:

dennispg
10-22-2004, 11:24 PM
I just tried again and got:

126 kbit/sec

2.422s latency
14.954s d/l time.

This is very very cool, but I will say this much... My phones battery is not happy at all with all this. Its getting drained with a quickness. Im sure the combination of infrared transmission plus vision connection is pretty demanding. Oh well, at least it works...

Now if only someone can tell me how to just back up and delete my damn SMS messages for me, my 6225 problems will be over. well almost.

3G Cables
10-22-2004, 11:31 PM
I just tried again and got:

126 kbit/sec

2.422s latency
14.954s d/l time.

I am sorry but I don’t think that is possible. I am using a data cable connection on a brand new Samsung A700 with full signal strength and I am getting:

56 kbit/sec

1.538s latency
29.749s d/l time.

The infrared data transfer rate is slower than that of a data cable, that I know, so please check your computer to make sure the DSL or Cable is not plugged in =)

dennispg
10-22-2004, 11:43 PM
my friend, i promise you... i have removed ALL other possible connections to the outside world, except the infrared connection to my phone. those are the numbers i got... i tried a couple more times just now, i cant seem to get the 126 rate again but im averaging now at around this:

107 kbit/sec

11.018s latency
17.097s d/l time.

tell me what you would like me to do to prove it to you.

dennispg
10-22-2004, 11:49 PM
I just tried out bandwidthplace.com and ran the Wireless - 3G test with these results:

Speed
496.4 kilobits per second

Communications 496.4 kilobits per second
Storage 60.6 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 16.9 seconds
Subjective rating Not bad

Info
Date & time Saturday, October 23, 12:46AM*
Test type IDT4 Free
Connection type Wireless: 3G
Region Texas
Data size 605KB
IP address 70.2.171.80
Provider

sami
10-23-2004, 12:14 AM
Infrared can definately do 115k connection between the phone and the laptop. Sprint has a peak of 144k, however, typically the range is about 70k, therefore, you should have no problem at all using the IR to connect. It should, in practice, be just as good as a cable.

rpmoose
10-23-2004, 06:06 PM
Has anyone had any luck connecting their 6225 by using the USB cable?

dennispg
10-23-2004, 10:42 PM
can someone else please report whether they have also had luck with this init string? i feel like i must be crazy or something to be the only person here that has been able to make this work...

cinnamngrl
10-24-2004, 01:30 PM
FYI, I know it violates the TOS, but I just want to use it as a backup connection, not as my sole means of connecting to the Internet.

Also, proposed solutions that I have tried, but don't work:

1. Change connection to Serial: Does not work.

2. Use Sprint Connection Software: Does not have the driver for the Nokia
6225 and therefore does not even recognize it.

3. Leave User Name and Password blank: Does not work.

4. Put in "web" and "web" for user name and password as per a Tier 2 Tech
Support Rep I spoke to on Sunday: Does not work.

5. Put in my user name and password...you guessed it...does not work.


$120?


Nokia posted a modem driver for the 6225

http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/software/6225/

:confused:

dennispg
10-24-2004, 03:12 PM
Nokia posted a modem driver for the 6225

http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/software/6225/

:confused:i know most people would have no desire to actually go thru and read every single post on this thread.... so i dont blame you, but that was already pointed out cinnamngrl. those drivers just dont work if you try them.

I also wanted to point another previous comment:
I have also tried to explain this to people but they seem to always think there is a solution or some way to hack the ini file. Sorry people, there is no driver as stated before for this phone to be used as a modem. It will be well known all over the net when/if it is available.

Just to let you know... The inf files or "driver" files if you will are just plain text files describing the commands and responses the modem accepts and gives. Since the only thing that is necessary to make the phone work is the proper init string, this file can most certainly be hacked to work.

I think the key problem in the nokia driver file is that it uses at+crm=1 instead of at+crm=2. (You can find what these commands mean and all the CDMA AT commands reference here (http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/1,,040,00.html?fsrParam=3-3-/main.html&fileID=5292)), and also that it doesnt properly set up the msircomm stuff. Either way, generic drivers work fine if you just give it the proper initialization string....

Maybe if I get some time... Ill build off of the generic drivers inf file and include the init string so that it doesnt have to be manually added in the settings. What would really be nice though is if the driver also set up the fax features of the phone to be used as a fax modem. Hopefully somebody will beat me to it so that i dont have to bother... ;)

rpmoose
10-24-2004, 06:42 PM
I got mine to work using the DKU-5 data cable!

Here is how I managed to do it... In the Phone and Modem Options, advanced tab I placed AT+CRM=2 in the "Extra init commands"..

Additionally I went into the modem driver file and changed under [3GInit] and replaced AT+crm=1<cr> with AT+crm=2<cr>...

Too bad it's too late to collect the $100...

rjmoose
10-24-2004, 08:14 PM
I will pay the first person $100 to figure out how to get the Nokia 6225 to connect as a Wireless Modem using #777, a data cable, and a Computer running Windows XP or equivalent. :(

I am making this offer for the next 15 days.

rjmoose


I do believe that 15 days have passed...too bad I still not using that phone, although I am glad to see that someone finally got it working!!!!!

rjmoose

dennispg
10-25-2004, 12:23 AM
so im not crazy!! i am very glad to see that someone else has also gotten it to work. so then i was right that the problem in the nokia driver file was just the +crm=1 command... still dont think that driver works correctly if youre doing IR though, am i right?

it is too bad about the $100.... :hee:

TXPoloPolo
10-31-2004, 02:57 PM
I got it working with the new command string as well using the XP modem over IR. Unfortunately in North Dallas, I am only seeing 32K download speeds :( , even with a 6 bar signal strength. So much for the promise of 3G!

I noticed other dismal performance from Sprint's "Area 5 DNS" users as well.

It seems that area1.spcsdns.net and area3.spcsdns.net had higher peak throughput. Does anyone know how the network is laid out geographically?

-- Marco (ported 6225 user)

[QUOTE=dennispg]so im not crazy!! i am very glad to see that someone else has also gotten it to work. so then i was right that the problem in the nokia driver file was just the +crm=1 command... still dont think that driver works correctly if youre doing IR though, am i right?

elloco07
10-31-2004, 07:47 PM
Hi guys
Can someone post Step By Step Instructions on how to get it working. I am sure all us noobs would appreciate it, thanks

-loco


I got it working with the new command string as well using the XP modem over IR. Unfortunately in North Dallas, I am only seeing 32K download speeds :( , even with a 6 bar signal strength. So much for the promise of 3G!

I noticed other dismal performance from Sprint's "Area 5 DNS" users as well.

It seems that area1.spcsdns.net and area3.spcsdns.net had higher peak throughput. Does anyone know how the network is laid out geographically?

-- Marco (ported 6225 user)

[QUOTE=dennispg]so im not crazy!! i am very glad to see that someone else has also gotten it to work. so then i was right that the problem in the nokia driver file was just the +crm=1 command... still dont think that driver works correctly if youre doing IR though, am i right?

cinnamngrl
11-03-2004, 07:39 PM
I feel like I'm getting closer but no dice

I have put in the script from jpg. MY phone tries to make the connection through the IR port, and then times out x1212. For a hour I got the T3 to reconize the configuration as a phone link. Then the my 6225 showe a message about wrong dial speed? Has any connected the 6225 to a palm? By IR? through #777 :eyeroll:

TXPoloPolo
11-04-2004, 02:50 PM
Hi guys
Can someone post Step By Step Instructions on how to get it working. I am sure all us noobs would appreciate it, thanks

-loco

Please read Dennispg's earlier post for step by step instructions:

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=450211

elloco07
11-04-2004, 09:39 PM
Thanks I got it working over IR, pretty cool. Now If Only I can get my dku-5 cable I bought from Ebay to work properly, I would be in great shape.

-loco


Please read Dennispg's earlier post for step by step instructions:

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=450211

nttdemented
11-06-2004, 01:55 PM
:\ I used dennispg's instructions to the letter and it won't dial in. It will display opening port.... then dialing #777... and stay there and after about 30 seconds or a minute it returns an error that the modem isn't responding. :\

I did install the Standard IR Modem driver in XP with it. I'm also runing the Nokia PC Suite software because I sync my Outlook into the phone. Any ideas?

nttdemented
11-06-2004, 03:42 PM
Nevermind... got it working... mspeed is showing performance in the 90s with only 3 bars of signal down here in Puerto Rico. :D

lgmayka
11-06-2004, 04:07 PM
I, too, got the Nokia 6225 to act as a modem for a laptop computer through the infrared port--with the help of the magic initialization string

at+crm=2;+cso=33<cr>at$qcmip=1

Now to try Nokia's PC Suite and/or vSend.

By the way, I had some difficulty simply because the first time this modem-style connection is attempted, the phone brings up a dialog asking whether to Connect Now or Auto-Connect. If you're not looking at the phone and don't realize this, the attempted connection eventually times out and fails. You need to choose Auto-Connect, of course.

cinnamngrl
11-06-2004, 04:39 PM
I got it to connect! I tried this log in script i found searching other forums

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=cdma+palm+modem+instructions&hl=en&lr=&scoring=d&selm=j1_F6.5793%24HF.531587%40news4.rdc1.on.home.c om&rnum=10

from blahzaY2K on alt.cellular.clearnet


> > script as follows:
> >
> > Send #777
> > Send CR
> > Delay 4
> > End

I set the speed to 38,400bps

and voila it connected. Of course none of the applications work. I keep getting a DNS error. what is that?


Some more clues to my dilema---
I found this script Date: 2001-04-26 11:48:04 PST

and it says that verizon suggested the login script.

ANY INSIGHT WOULD BE WELCOME
:confused:

richyoung
11-08-2004, 02:06 PM
Just got off the phone with Susteen Tech support. No, don't send me the $100, just enjoy your mobile web surfing.

number #2932 instead of #777
username: web
password: web

Later,undefined
RICHYOUNG

lgmayka
11-08-2004, 02:09 PM
number #2932 instead of #777
username: web
password: web
This is the old Wireless Web, which plods along at a maximum of 14.4kbps and which costs $0.39/min unless you are explicitly signed up for Wireless Web (not just Vision).

3G Cables
11-08-2004, 02:11 PM
Just got off the phone with Susteen Tech support. No, don't send me the $100, just enjoy your mobile web surfing.

number #2932 instead of #777
username: web
password: web

Later,undefined
RICHYOUNG

You enjoy your slower speeds dialing into the modem pool and paying 39 cents per minute. You are not dialing into Vision as you may think and you will be paying 39 cents per minute. You will be paying more than $100 per month for that.

b6uy998styl
11-08-2004, 05:24 PM
Here is how you do it.

This is the number you need to dial out

#2932

Username is : web

password is: web

I guarantee that it works.

This is NOT a joke:

I will pay the first person $100 to figure out how to get the Nokia 6225 to connect as a Wireless Modem using #777, a data cable, and a Computer running Windows XP or equivalent. :(

I am sooooooooooooooo frustrated and I want to use this stupid phone as a wireless modem and have tried everything that I thought would work.

I am making this offer for the next 15 days.

Anyone who knows me on this forums knows that I am a man of my word.

Anybody else want to contribute to the "pot"? :hee:

rjmoose

b6uy998styl
11-08-2004, 05:25 PM
Here is how you do it.

This is the number you need to dial out

#2932

Username is : web

password is: web

I guarantee that it works.

3G Cables
11-08-2004, 05:29 PM
Here is how you do it.

This is the number you need to dial out

#2932

Username is : web

password is: web

I guarantee that it works.

We know it works but what you don’t understand is that you are getting charged 39 cents per minute and you are not on the Vision network. You are on a slow modem pool. That is not what the original poster was asking to do.

dennispg
11-08-2004, 06:15 PM
haha, are these people serious???

No, don't send me the $100, just enjoy your mobile web surfing
hahaha :joy: thats good stuff.

maybe rjmoose should edit his first message on this thread to show that this 'challenge' has already been solved... so no poor schmuck gets duped by this nonsense into charging up hundreds of dollars of wireless web charges.

quick recap
the 15 days for the $100 is over..
do not use #2932 unless you want a huge bill
follow the instructions here:
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=450211

dennispg
11-08-2004, 06:25 PM
I got it to connect! I tried this log in script i found searching other forums

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=cdma+palm+modem+instructions&hl=en&lr=&scoring=d&selm=j1_F6.5793%24HF.531587%40news4.rdc1.on.home.c om&rnum=10

from blahzaY2K on alt.cellular.clearnet


> > script as follows:
> >
> > Send #777
> > Send CR
> > Delay 4
> > End

I set the speed to 38,400bps

and voila it connected. Of course none of the applications work. I keep getting a DNS error. what is that?


Some more clues to my dilema---
I found this script Date: 2001-04-26 11:48:04 PST

and it says that verizon suggested the login script.

ANY INSIGHT WOULD BE WELCOME
:confused:


I have no idea whether this will work or not for you and your palm... but try it out and see what happens:

Send CR:
Send CR:
Delay: 1
Send: at+crm=2;+cso=33
Send CR:
Wait For: OK
Send: at$qcmip=1
Send CR:
Wait For: OK
Send: at#777
Send CR:
Delay: 4
End:

b6uy998styl
11-09-2004, 02:15 PM
This is NOT a joke:

I will pay the first person $100 to figure out how to get the Nokia 6225 to connect as a Wireless Modem using #777, a data cable, and a Computer running Windows XP or equivalent. :(

I am sooooooooooooooo frustrated and I want to use this stupid phone as a wireless modem and have tried everything that I thought would work.

I am making this offer for the next 15 days.

Anyone who knows me on this forums knows that I am a man of my word.

Anybody else want to contribute to the "pot"? :hee:

rjmoose


This will work gurantee

#2932

username: web

password: web

mcurtiss1970
11-09-2004, 02:18 PM
This will work gurantee

#2932

username: web

password: web

please stop. your method does not work with Vision. it's been pointed out numerous times.

b6uy998styl
11-09-2004, 02:18 PM
just enjoy the product, I don't need 100 bucks. I am glad I could help out

mcurtiss1970
11-09-2004, 02:19 PM
just enjoy the product, I don't need 100 bucks. I am glad I could help out

don't worry, you wouldn't have been paid anyway. :hee:

Jaggrey
11-09-2004, 03:35 PM
This will work gurantee

#2932

username: web

password: web
The OP specifically asked for instructions using #777, NOT using #2932.

nttdemented
11-09-2004, 05:44 PM
UPDATE: For all you guys that own PALM handhelds. Using the now dubbed "Magic Init String" you can use Vision on your palms also. :) Just setup a new connection type and call it Sprint PCS or whatever, set it up to look for an IR Modem, enter the init string in the settings of that connection. Then in the network preferences create a new connection again called Sprint PCS or whatever, and set it up to use the Sprint PCS connection type you created earlier. Enter the #777 as dialing number, blank user name and pass. Activate IR on the phone, place it in range of the Palm's IR sensor and hit connect. Happy hand held browsing and e-mailing, :D

EDIT: I'M THE HAPPIEST GEEK EVER!!! Just because I could I went to the local park, sat in the middle of the grass with my laptop and browsed the net until my battery went dead (about 4.5 hours). Some people give you weird looks, but I did get a few envious stares from apparent gadget lovers. Muahahaha

Jaggrey
11-09-2004, 10:49 PM
EDIT: I'M THE HAPPIEST GEEK EVER!!! Just because I could I went to the local park, sat in the middle of the grass with my laptop and browsed the net until my battery went dead (about 4.5 hours). Some people give you weird looks, but I did get a few envious stares from apparent gadget lovers. Muahahaha
Sweet!

Nerd! :p

cinnamngrl
11-10-2004, 05:55 AM
UPDATE: For all you guys that own PALM handhelds. Using the now dubbed "Magic Init String" you can use Vision on your palms also. :) Just setup a new connection type and call it Sprint PCS or whatever, set it up to look for an IR Modem, enter the init string in the settings of that connection. Then in the network preferences create a new connection again called Sprint PCS or whatever, and set it up to use the Sprint PCS connection type you created earlier. Enter the #777 as dialing number, blank user name and pass. Activate IR on the phone, place it in range of the Palm's IR sensor and hit connect. Happy hand held browsing and e-mailing, :D

EDIT: I'M THE HAPPIEST GEEK EVER!!! Just because I could I went to the local park, sat in the middle of the grass with my laptop and browsed the net until my battery went dead (about 4.5 hours). Some people give you weird looks, but I did get a few envious stares from apparent gadget lovers. Muahahaha

actually it is still not working for me. I can get my T3 to connect, but then it has a DNS error. what kind of palm do you have? when you set your network to dial #777, do you add any script?

I tried the one dennispg sent, but still no luck.

cinnamngrl
11-11-2004, 09:20 AM
:D

THANK YOU EVERYONE!
I have finally been able to surf on my palm through my pcs phone. of course my webpro is a little cranky, and the versamail isn't getting anything but life is a process. Here is the configuration that I used. I hope that I given credit where credit is due. Thankyou everyone you took the time to comment.

I have Tungsten 3 with OS 5.1.2 and a Nokia 6225
I opened my Preferences
I opened Connections
In Available Connections I selected Standard GSM phone and tapped New
I renamed the connection sprint
these are the settings I made
Connect to: Phone
Via: infrared
Model: Standard GSM

Then I tapped Details
In the Details screen I set the speed at 38,400 bps
I replace the Init String with
at+crm=2;+cso=33<cr>at$qcmip=1
(do yourself a favor and save this in memo on your palm so that you can cut and paste)
then Exit Connection
Open Network
tap New
I named the service PCS
Leave user name blank
Leave password blank
Set the connection to your newly created nokia 6225 connect (which I named sprint)
set the phone: to #777
( in this screen Phone: is phone number)
Tap details
In the Details screen
Set Connection type to PPP
I set Idle timeout to Never
I checked query DNS
I checked IP address to Automatic
Tap Script
In Log in Script
(ok so I have no idea what log script is, but what you do is tap the first command and change the left side to proper command then write in the right side. when change the last command away from end, it will add an end command to the end of the script. -- if anyone has a better way to explain login script to newbies please weigh in)
Send: at#777
Send CR
Delay: 4
End:

Exit Login Script
Exit Details
Make sure that your phone is on and the infrared is on
Place your phone and palm so that the Ir ports can connect
Tap the box that says Connect on your Palm

This is magic time. This is what i see on my Palm
The Service Connect Box pops up
It says Dialing PCS (whatever you named your sprint network) with picture of a phone
It says Signing On with a picture of a book
It says Established with a picture of a hand shake
The connect box is changed to say Disconnect

This is what I see on my phone

Before you begin the infrared indicator should be blinking
when you tap connect the infra indicator stops blinking
then the screen goes white and says Connecting. there is a blue bar underneath that scrolls the color back and forth ( I suppose to illustrate the connection process)
Then you get another white sceen that shows

Sending:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Receiving
<<<<<<<<<<<<<

The phone screen goes back to regular screen with a steady infrared indicator.

when you disconnect the sending receiving screen will return and then there will be a screen that says

Data Call ended.

open the web applications on your palm and enjoy. Set the options to reflect your network and connection so that you can dial in quickly when you get kicked off ( which will happen often enough).

thank dennispg, thankyou everybody! please suggest better ways to explain these steps if can. please suggest good palm websites.

Jaggrey
11-11-2004, 10:21 AM
Wow excellent write up.

Artworks
11-15-2004, 10:56 AM
This has been a delightful thread that demonstrates the bright side of the Web.
I have a 6016, which I believe is the 6225 without the camera. I just ordered a DKU - 5 cable. I've got WinME on a 3 year old PC.
What do you think my chances are ?????????

Also, what's the deal with the usage. :confused: I don't pay for Vision, will I have to add that service to use #777?
Thanks.

Jaggrey
11-15-2004, 02:55 PM
This has been a delightful thread that demonstrates the bright side of the Web.
I have a 6016, which I believe is the 6225 without the camera. I just ordered a DKU - 5 cable. I've got WinME on a 3 year old PC.
What do you think my chances are ?????????

Also, what's the deal with the usage. :confused: I don't pay for Vision, will I have to add that service to use #777?
Thanks.
The 6016 isn't a Vision capable phone, so you won't be able to take advantage of this.

640k
11-16-2004, 12:57 PM
Hey did they do something to the newer version of the 6225 software? When I dial #777, the phone doesn't respond to a data request. The IR stops blinking like its receiving data, but it never dials.

lgmayka
11-16-2004, 05:32 PM
Hey did they do something to the newer version of the 6225 software? When I dial #777, the phone doesn't respond to a data request. The IR stops blinking like its receiving data, but it never dials.
Have you already set the modem initialization string to

at+crm=2;+cso=33<cr>at$qcmip=1

cinnamngrl
11-16-2004, 09:18 PM
Hey did they do something to the newer version of the 6225 software? When I dial #777, the phone doesn't respond to a data request. The IR stops blinking like its receiving data, but it never dials.

I updated my software before I tried to connect, so it wasn't a problem to me. I had problems today though. there was this message about activating vision on my phone. I have never seen it before. But after a while it worked fine. :cool:

shumacher
11-17-2004, 12:25 AM
I followed a more or less similar process to put my old Palm M100 on the net. Much props to cinnamngrl. It works quite well, but I sometimes find that I have to reset the phone between IR connections and built-in net use. Running H125V1000 here.

michelle
11-17-2004, 12:57 AM
:D

THANK YOU EVERYONE!
I have finally been able to surf on my palm through my pcs phone. of course my webpro is a little cranky, and the versamail isn't getting anything but life is a process. Here is the configuration that I used. I hope that I given credit where credit is due. Thankyou everyone you took the time to comment.

I have Tungsten 3 with OS 5.1.2 and a Nokia 6225
I opened my Preferences
I opened Connections
In Available Connections I selected Standard GSM phone and tapped New
I renamed the connection sprint
these are the settings I made
Connect to: Phone
Via: infrared
Model: Standard GSM

Then I tapped Details
In the Details screen I set the speed at 38,400 bps
I replace the Init String with
at+crm=2;+cso=33<cr>at$qcmip=1
(do yourself a favor and save this in memo on your palm so that you can cut and paste)
then Exit Connection
Open Network
tap New
I named the service PCS
Leave user name blank
Leave password blank
Set the connection to your newly created nokia 6225 connect (which I named sprint)
set the phone: to #777
( in this screen Phone: is phone number)
Tap details
In the Details screen
Set Connection type to PPP
I set Idle timeout to Never
I checked query DNS
I checked IP address to Automatic
Tap Script
In Log in Script
(ok so I have no idea what log script is, but what you do is tap the first command and change the left side to proper command then write in the right side. when change the last command away from end, it will add an end command to the end of the script. -- if anyone has a better way to explain login script to newbies please weigh in)
Send: at#777
Send CR
Delay: 4
End:

Exit Login Script
Exit Details
Make sure that your phone is on and the infrared is on
Place your phone and palm so that the Ir ports can connect
Tap the box that says Connect on your Palm

This is magic time. This is what i see on my Palm
The Service Connect Box pops up
It says Dialing PCS (whatever you named your sprint network) with picture of a phone
It says Signing On with a picture of a book
It says Established with a picture of a hand shake
The connect box is changed to say Disconnect

This is what I see on my phone

Before you begin the infrared indicator should be blinking
when you tap connect the infra indicator stops blinking
then the screen goes white and says Connecting. there is a blue bar underneath that scrolls the color back and forth ( I suppose to illustrate the connection process)
Then you get another white sceen that shows

Sending:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Receiving
<<<<<<<<<<<<<

The phone screen goes back to regular screen with a steady infrared indicator.

when you disconnect the sending receiving screen will return and then there will be a screen that says

Data Call ended.

open the web applications on your palm and enjoy. Set the options to reflect your network and connection so that you can dial in quickly when you get kicked off ( which will happen often enough).

thank dennispg, thankyou everybody! please suggest better ways to explain these steps if can. please suggest good palm websites.

trying this on the 3205 and palm. it connects (i see the handshake animation) but then it immediately disconnects :(

rjmoose
11-17-2004, 12:58 AM
Chellster!!!!

The 3205? Come on...you're better then that!!!!

michelle
11-17-2004, 01:00 AM
am in simple life mode moosey :) and i think the colored inserts are cute :D anywho, back to square one...

shumacher
11-17-2004, 02:05 AM
trying this on the 3205 and palm. it connects (i see the handshake animation) but then it immediately disconnects :(
Posting from the Palm...

What version of Palm OS are you using?

640k
11-17-2004, 09:28 AM
Have you already set the modem initialization string to

at+crm=2;+cso=33<cr>at$qcmip=1
Yes. PS: I'm connecting with my iPaq.

cinnamngrl
11-17-2004, 03:46 PM
Yes. PS: I'm connecting with my iPaq.

are you using any init script? have you tried eating with your mouth closed? :eyebrow:

640k
11-18-2004, 09:46 AM
are you using any init script? have you tried eating with your mouth closed? :eyebrow:
When I shut my mouth, my iPaq reboots. When I leave it open I get WiFi. :rolleyes:

Yeah I've tried both default settings and using INIT strings (including ones listed here) but its the phone that isn't accepting the #777. I'm thinking about trying a manual dial (terminal connection).

3G Cables
11-18-2004, 04:12 PM
When I shut my mouth, my iPaq reboots. When I leave it open I get WiFi. :rolleyes:

Yeah I've tried both default settings and using INIT strings (including ones listed here) but its the phone that isn't accepting the #777. I'm thinking about trying a manual dial (terminal connection).

This thread has been answered many times and is now off track. Please close admins.

Thanks

640k
11-18-2004, 04:31 PM
This thread has been answered many times and is now off track. Please close admins.

Thanks
How is it off topic? I have a new problem.

3G Cables
11-18-2004, 04:36 PM
How is it off topic? I have a new problem.

New problem, new thread. If people have solved the solution, and many people follow the instructions and it worked, then it is a conflict with your hardware most likely. Nobody can help with that. I recommend you try it on another computer and see what the results are.

When threads get this long it gets annoying every time someone posts. I wouldn’t care but I am subscribed to this thread so I get an email every time and it is for the same issue. Nothing personal, I just think this thread has answered everyone’s questions.

Jaggrey
11-18-2004, 09:38 PM
New problem, new thread. If people have solved the solution, and many people follow the instructions and it worked, then it is a conflict with your hardware most likely. Nobody can help with that. I recommend you try it on another computer and see what the results are.

When threads get this long it gets annoying every time someone posts. I wouldn’t care but I am subscribed to this thread so I get an email every time and it is for the same issue. Nothing personal, I just think this thread has answered everyone’s questions.
You do have the option to unsubscribe to a thread if it annoys you.

I agree that the problem might get more attention if it were in its own thread, but it is still completely relevant to this one, so here is a good place as well.

3G Cables
11-18-2004, 09:43 PM
You do have the option to unsubscribe to a thread if it annoys you.

I agree that the problem might get more attention if it were in its own thread, but it is still completely relevant to this one, so here is a good place as well.

Thank you. I have just unsubscribed.

cinnamngrl
11-18-2004, 10:15 PM
When I shut my mouth, my iPaq reboots. When I leave it open I get WiFi. :rolleyes:

Yeah I've tried both default settings and using INIT strings (including ones listed here) but its the phone that isn't accepting the #777. I'm thinking about trying a manual dial (terminal connection).

sometimes my palm trys to tell me that i am using illegal characters which I assume is the #. I am not savy enough to know the exact reason why this works when it does. that's why I posted my process exactly to get feed back. Have you played with the speed? Do you have micro vacuum attachments for the crumbs?
:eyebrow:

640k
11-19-2004, 08:02 AM
sometimes my palm trys to tell me that i am using illegal characters which I assume is the #. I am not savy enough to know the exact reason why this works when it does. that's why I posted my process exactly to get feed back. Have you played with the speed? Do you have micro vacuum attachments for the crumbs?
:eyebrow:
I have played with the speed, and get the same results. I think it has to do with the INIT string. I've connected to my phone using the #777 before, but never got anywhere because no one could get it to work. Ever since I started seeing people post info on the INIT strings, my iPaq stopped connecting to my phone. I recently reset my iPaq to its default settings, and it still doesn't work.

I'm going to try it manually today and see if I have the same problems.

cinnamngrl
11-20-2004, 07:09 AM
I have played with the speed, and get the same results. I think it has to do with the INIT string. I've connected to my phone using the #777 before, but never got anywhere because no one could get it to work. Ever since I started seeing people post info on the INIT strings, my iPaq stopped connecting to my phone. I recently reset my iPaq to its default settings, and it still doesn't work.

I'm going to try it manually today and see if I have the same problems.

When you say you reset to default do you mean that you removed this
at+crm=2;+cso=33<cr>at$qcmip=1
from the init string? As far as I can tell, no one has had success without it. It must be unique to the 6225. Didn't you also say that you updated your phone software? I had mine updated before I started this. The version on my phone is :
VH125V1003.nep
28-06-04
RH-27
(c)NMP
My phone works fine. what is your version?

shumacher
11-20-2004, 12:05 PM
sometimes my palm trys to tell me that i am using illegal characters which I assume is the #. I am not savy enough to know the exact reason why this works when it does. that's why I posted my process exactly to get feed back. Have you played with the speed? Do you have micro vacuum attachments for the crumbs?
:eyebrow:

I have the same issue. I believe that it happens when the phone already has made a Vision connection on its own. If you power cycle your phone, the problem will go away until you launch a browser session from the Nokia.

shumacher
11-20-2004, 12:11 PM
Called *4 today, and I was told that:

You have unlimited data megabytes.
Your data plan includes 0 megabytes.
You have used all available megabytes and have exceeded the plan amount by 61 kilobytes.

Of course, I've also changed from not having a Vision pack to a Vision Pictures Pack during this billing cycle.

640k
11-29-2004, 08:05 AM
When you say you reset to default do you mean that you removed this
at+crm=2;+cso=33<cr>at$qcmip=1
from the init string? As far as I can tell, no one has had success without it. It must be unique to the 6225. Didn't you also say that you updated your phone software? I had mine updated before I started this. The version on my phone is :
VH125V1003.nep
28-06-04
RH-27
(c)NMP
My phone works fine. what is your version?
I'm not sure if its an issue of my iPaq not sending the #777 successfully to my phone or my phone not accepting the #777. The phone isn't acknowledging a data communication. Before I knew about the init string, the phone would show that it was in a data session, now it does nothing.

cinnamngrl
11-29-2004, 09:19 PM
I'm not sure if its an issue of my iPaq not sending the #777 successfully to my phone or my phone not accepting the #777. The phone isn't acknowledging a data communication. Before I knew about the init string, the phone would show that it was in a data session, now it does nothing.

This sound similar to what I had in late october. I used the initial string posted by dennisjpg and made a connection. But my browser didn't get anything but a dns error. at that point, the onlything I played with was the init script. Even the speed didn't make that much difference. I googled "cdma palm init script" to start. I got some feed back on the forum, then one ( in the middle of open court) it just worked.

640k
11-30-2004, 08:57 AM
I have no idea whether this will work or not for you and your palm... but try it out and see what happens:

Send CR:
Send CR:
Delay: 1
Send: at+crm=2;+cso=33
Send CR:
Wait For: OK
Send: at$qcmip=1
Send CR:
Wait For: OK
Send: at#777
Send CR:
Delay: 4
End:
I did this manually and it seemed to work. Slow connection over all, but its working. How come my iPaq isn't accepting the entire INIT string when I place it in the dialing string settings of the connection? Its weird it doesn't work like that. There must be a setting missing for the iPAQ.

640k
11-30-2004, 09:29 AM
WHOA. So I just modified the INIT string in the connection settings, trying to get it to work, and it rebooted my phone!!

at+crm=2;+cso=33<CR>,at$qcmip=1<CR>,

640k
11-30-2004, 09:42 AM
My favorite thing so far is being able to listen to the radio as I synch on the internet. I can tip my cradle upside down, still have my phone plugged in, listen to the radio and browse the internet on my ipaq. Someone just needs to help me with the INIT string problem.

cinnamngrl
11-30-2004, 09:27 PM
My favorite thing so far is being able to listen to the radio as I synch on the internet. I can tip my cradle upside down, still have my phone plugged in, listen to the radio and browse the internet on my ipaq. Someone just needs to help me with the INIT string problem.
I would have never thought that the radio would work. I 'm just waiting for something usually. It takes some focus to surf on the small screen. If I wore headphones I would be a public artifact.
I only had one pocket pc ( a phillips nino) and it got stolen. I don't know all the differences between it and a palm. I feel we've become orphaned on this thread.

640k
11-30-2004, 09:37 PM
I would have never thought that the radio would work. I 'm just waiting for something usually. It takes some focus to surf on the small screen. If I wore headphones I would be a public artifact.
I only had one pocket pc ( a phillips nino) and it got stolen. I don't know all the differences between it and a palm. I feel we've become orphaned on this thread.
agreed .

sbwinter2
12-30-2004, 10:22 PM
Can anyone elaborate more on how they got the usb cable to work? The post below is helpful but I need more info. First, the 6225 is not even listed in the nokia phone models when choosing to add a new modem. I used the 6200. I was easily able to ad the string in the advanced tab. But, I cannot open the sys files that are the drivers to edit them. As well, what does the inf file from Nokia's website for the 6225 have to do with any of this process?

Big thanks to the person who posted the details of how to use the IR modem connection. Works consistently.


I got mine to work using the DKU-5 data cable!

Here is how I managed to do it... In the Phone and Modem Options, advanced tab I placed AT+CRM=2 in the "Extra init commands"..

Additionally I went into the modem driver file and changed under [3GInit] and replaced AT+crm=1<cr> with AT+crm=2<cr>...

Too bad it's too late to collect the $100...

sbwinter2
12-30-2004, 11:05 PM
Update: Got the inf file loaded correctly, made the changes to the inf file and under the advanced tab, but still no go. Any help is appreciated.

cinnamngrl
12-31-2004, 12:11 AM
I have used the cable to connect to my desktop, but only to sync and back up phone data. I didn't edit the inf file. I was not able to connect to the internet through the cable.

Joel Kolstad
01-16-2005, 05:03 PM
SBWinter2,

Update: Got the inf file loaded correctly, made the changes to the inf file and under the advanced tab, but still no go. Any help is appreciated.
Did you use the Nokia 6225 modem driver (inf) file from http://nokia-asia.com/nokia/0,8764,65491,00.html ?

Here's what I did to get my girlfriend's 6225 working:

1) Install the DKU-5 cable's drivers (these came on the CD with the cables, I'm sure they're on Nokia's web site somewhere as well.)
2) Check in device manager that, when the DKU-5 cable is plugged in, you get two new devices: one's something like a 'Nokia Multi-Port Serial adapter' in its own category, and the other is a Nokia serial port under 'Ports (COM & LPT)'. You might want to go to the properies of the serial port and change the assignment; mine ended up as Com6: (!) by default, and I changed it to Com1:
3) Download the modem driver file from the link above. Modify the [3GInit] section to use +CRM=2 as specified.
4) From Control Panel, go to "Phone and Modem" options and add a new modem. Tell Windows you want to do everything manually -- for the 'modem model' part, point Windows to the driver file from step 3. For the modem type, tell it you're using the '3G Data Packet' modem (not '2G Data,' not 'Data Fax'...). Install the modem on the Com: port you saw in step 2. Notice that, since you modified the INF file in step 3, Windows will have automatically picked up the 'extra initialization commands' including the change +CRM=2 if you go and look.
5) Do to dial-up networking and tell it to add a new entry... you're connecting to the Internet... want to set up the connection manually... etc. Point it at the modem you added in step 4, phone number 777 (or #777, although on my girlfriend's phone 777 would immediately cause the phone's display to say 'Connecting' whereas #777 didn't, and I like the feedback of what the phone is doing), user 'web' and password 'web'.

That's it!

Note that after step 2, you might find it helpful to use Hyperterminal to directly connect to the phone (point it at Com6: or whatever you used). Entering 'at' should result in the standard 'ok' message. Enter 'atd777' and the phone should display 'connecting' (hit return to 'hang up' since going further won't buy you anything). If you can't get this to work, the rest of the steps aren't going to help!

A few more notes:

-- Stay away from the Nokia PC Tools suite until you have this working. You don't need it to get the phone working as a modem, and if KEEPS ANY PORTS YOU HAVE IT SET TO LOOK FOR PHONES ON OPEN all the time it's running! This will prevent dial-up networking from opening the port.
-- As far as I can tell, there's no way to use the Sprint dialer software with this phone. You don't need it, of course, although I like its ability to keep tabs on, e.g., signal strength automatically for me.

Good luck with this; I was impressed with the speed once I did get it working. It seems noticeably faster than my Sanyo VM4500. In general I think the 6225 is a surprisingly good little phone -- especially since they're now giving them away for free with new lines!

---Joel Kolstad

sbwinter2
01-17-2005, 07:26 PM
SBWinter2,


Did you use the Nokia 6225 modem driver (inf) file from http://nokia-asia.com/nokia/0,8764,65491,00.html ?

Here's what I did to get my girlfriend's 6225 working:

1) Install the DKU-5 cable's drivers (these came on the CD with the cables, I'm sure they're on Nokia's web site somewhere as well.)
2) Check in device manager that, when the DKU-5 cable is plugged in, you get two new devices: one's something like a 'Nokia Multi-Port Serial adapter' in its own category, and the other is a Nokia serial port under 'Ports (COM & LPT)'. You might want to go to the properies of the serial port and change the assignment; mine ended up as Com6: (!) by default, and I changed it to Com1:
3) Download the modem driver file from the link above. Modify the [3GInit] section to use +CRM=2 as specified.
4) From Control Panel, go to "Phone and Modem" options and add a new modem. Tell Windows you want to do everything manually -- for the 'modem model' part, point Windows to the driver file from step 3. For the modem type, tell it you're using the '3G Data Packet' modem (not '2G Data,' not 'Data Fax'...). Install the modem on the Com: port you saw in step 2. Notice that, since you modified the INF file in step 3, Windows will have automatically picked up the 'extra initialization commands' including the change +CRM=2 if you go and look.
5) Do to dial-up networking and tell it to add a new entry... you're connecting to the Internet... want to set up the connection manually... etc. Point it at the modem you added in step 4, phone number 777 (or #777, although on my girlfriend's phone 777 would immediately cause the phone's display to say 'Connecting' whereas #777 didn't, and I like the feedback of what the phone is doing), user 'web' and password 'web'.

That's it!

Note that after step 2, you might find it helpful to use Hyperterminal to directly connect to the phone (point it at Com6: or whatever you used). Entering 'at' should result in the standard 'ok' message. Enter 'atd777' and the phone should display 'connecting' (hit return to 'hang up' since going further won't buy you anything). If you can't get this to work, the rest of the steps aren't going to help!

A few more notes:

-- Stay away from the Nokia PC Tools suite until you have this working. You don't need it to get the phone working as a modem, and if KEEPS ANY PORTS YOU HAVE IT SET TO LOOK FOR PHONES ON OPEN all the time it's running! This will prevent dial-up networking from opening the port.
-- As far as I can tell, there's no way to use the Sprint dialer software with this phone. You don't need it, of course, although I like its ability to keep tabs on, e.g., signal strength automatically for me.

Good luck with this; I was impressed with the speed once I did get it working. It seems noticeably faster than my Sanyo VM4500. In general I think the 6225 is a surprisingly good little phone -- especially since they're now giving them away for free with new lines!

---Joel Kolstad

I appreciate you time to type out these instructions. Unfotunately, it still does not work. Your instructions are very similar to what I had tried. I decided to start over from scratch and follow your instructions. I already had the driver for the cable loaded (downloaded from the website) and the inf file ready. My inf file was already modified from before. I created the modem (Com 1 - 3G) and then the dial up agent. I used 777 without the # this time (although I do get the feedback when connecting via infrared) and even put in your name and password instead of leaving it blank. It tried to dial and never gets back that. I know what it looks like when it works since it is successful via infrared. And I am using an authentic nokia cable. I do not even open the Nokia suite when using the phone as a modem. I wonder what the issue is.

Any other tips are greatly appreciated.

Thanks again.

tas1234
01-17-2005, 07:31 PM
Omg Kill this thread it is so out dated !!LOL

Tas

Joel Kolstad
01-17-2005, 08:23 PM
Omg Kill this thread it is so out dated !!LOL
Tas
Sprint is now giving away free 6225's with new contracts, so I expect a lot of people are going to start looking for advice on how to use them as a modem. :-)

Joel Kolstad
01-17-2005, 08:24 PM
Sorry it didn't work for you, SBWinter2. If possible, I'd try the installation on another PC, and if that doesn't work either, I'd have to assume that somehow some setting in your phone ended up being set incorrectly and is causing the tethered usage to fail (...too bad Sprint wouldn't be up for letting you borrow one to test! :-) ).

---Joel

640k
01-18-2005, 08:58 AM
I appreciate you time to type out these instructions. Unfotunately, it still does not work. Your instructions are very similar to what I had tried. I decided to start over from scratch and follow your instructions. I already had the driver for the cable loaded (downloaded from the website) and the inf file ready. My inf file was already modified from before. I created the modem (Com 1 - 3G) and then the dial up agent. I used 777 without the # this time (although I do get the feedback when connecting via infrared) and even put in your name and password instead of leaving it blank. It tried to dial and never gets back that. I know what it looks like when it works since it is successful via infrared. And I am using an authentic nokia cable. I do not even open the Nokia suite when using the phone as a modem. I wonder what the issue is.

Any other tips are greatly appreciated.

Thanks again.
Read here: http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54482

sbwinter2
01-18-2005, 09:21 PM
Omg Kill this thread it is so out dated !!LOL

Tas

Thread may be old, but the issue is still very current. DO you think we should start a new thread with this same issue??

sbwinter2
01-18-2005, 09:24 PM
Read here: http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54482

This thread looks like it is about a pocket pc, which isn't the same OS or type of device. Thanks anyway.

Joel, you have been the biggest help so far. I thank you again!!!

Johnc
09-16-2005, 07:45 PM
Try the following web page it might help?
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000930027824/

 
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