View Full Version : They pulled my EBay listing!
MGotcha
05-13-2004, 04:18 PM
Seems that F****Dial stormtropers ordered my EBay listing for a TP5250 data cable & CrapSync CD (proper legal copy) to be terminated. The CrapSync updates are so out of date, it would probably be a year before my new Kyocera SE47 was supported, so I was just attempting to sell it. Be warned if you do purchase the lame F****Dial software that it probably will not support your next phone, and if you try to sell or give away the POS, the F****Dial Nazis will come stomping!
Bohemian Iconoclast
05-13-2004, 04:27 PM
WOW!
Godwin's Law fulfilled in the first post in the thread....I'm impressed.
:eyeroll:
Ronkh
05-13-2004, 04:29 PM
WOW!
Godwin's Law fulfilled in the first post in the thread....I'm impressed.
:eyeroll:
Well said.......... :hee:
pdx77
05-13-2004, 05:12 PM
Wirelessly posted (a Sanyo 8200!: Mozilla/4.0 (MobilePhone PM-8200/US/1.0) NetFront/3.1 MMP/2.0)
Seems that F*****Dial stormtropers ordered my EBay listing for a TP5250 data cable & CrapSync CD (proper legal copy) to be terminated. The CrapSync updates are so out of date, it would probably be a year before my new Kyocera SE47 was supported, so I was just attempting to sell it. Be warned if you do purchase the lame F*****Dial software that it probably will not support your next phone, and if you try to sell or give away the POS, the F*****Dial Nazis will come stomping!
um, ok thanks for the warning.
Blu3Fr0g
05-13-2004, 05:18 PM
What reason did ebay give for pulling your auction? There is something your either not telling us or ebay has made a mistake. Eitherway your language and choice of terms, besides fullfilling Godwin's law are offensive. You evidently have no concept of what a Nazi is if you think the actions you described above are in any way even remotely close to the systematic rape, torture and eventual mass murder of millions of people based solely upon their ethnicity.
What reason did ebay give for pulling your auction? There is something your either not telling us or ebay has made a mistake. Eitherway your language and choice of terms, besides fullfilling Godwin's law are offensive. You evidently have no concept of what a Nazi is if you think the actions you described above are in any way even remotely close to the systematic rape, torture and eventual mass murder of millions of people based solely upon their ethnicity.
It's a figure of speech. Ever heard of the 'Soup Nazi" on Seinfeld??
Lighten up.
To the orignal poster...I bought the Snapsync/Futuredial cable and software for the A600. I recently bought the A680 and within 2 weeks of the A680 release they had the driver/software download posted. They might release yours sooner than later.
Blu3Fr0g
05-13-2004, 05:52 PM
Oh yes, our wonderful "comedian" Seinfeld and his "Soup Nazi." I personally never really liked the Seinfeld show and I was particulalry offended by that episode. Throwing the term around easily or using it in jokes in my opinion devalues the lives that were taken by Nazis. If you make it an everyday term, it sort of adds an air of legitimacy to the term. I find it offensive and you may not be able to understand why until you put yourself in my shoes. See, I can look at my family tree and I can see where the branches were severed so to speak.
I wonder if the thread starter or you have ever been to Dachau or any of the other infamous prison camps? It amazes me how many times I have heard younger generations claim that the atrocities and the deaths were all exxagerated by the jews. That it was no where near as bad as everyone claims.
Let me tell you a little story. In 1976 when I was seven, my family had a major reunion. Family members came from all over the world including some very distant cousins. About 300 people showed up. One of them was a great uncle. While talking to this great uncle, I noticed he had a tattoo on his arm and I enquired about it. All of the adults over the age of 45 became silent. He then told me his holocaust story. My knowledge of the the holocause and Nazis comes directly from someone who survived it. Not some history book that has toned down the violence, racsim and actvities to be politically correct. Had world war II of never have happened, had the Nazis not taken control of Germany, fully another 250 - 300 people would have shown up for this reunion. Think about that for a second. The Nazis were responsible for systematically degrading, torturing and murdering half my ancestors. Kinda cheapens it in my opinion when you compare that to someone who refuses to serve you soup or argues that your petty ebay auction should be cancelled.
Soup Nazi, ShebbarNazi, Game of Nazi (or is that Yahtzee?) Nazi Pine, Will you go out with me? Nazi tonight.
No offense. In America, Freedom of Speech needs to nip at the heels of political correctness instead of dodging the feet.
I'm sure my family would be bigger if it weren't for murder, too, over thousands of years. Dam the Cro Magnon, dam the Crusaders, Dam the smallpox, dam the Native Americans that killed Custer (was I related? Don't know) Dam Scurvy, Dam the Egyptians for killing my curiosity with those pyramids. In the end, whatever they all did, I don't care if you mention any of them. That's what my America allows for. In fact, Soup-Magnon has a ring to it (not to be confused with a ringtone)....
No offense, just take things in context and accept that anybody, on any board, anywhere, can say anything they want to within rules and laws. Neither has been broken.
MGotcha
05-13-2004, 06:10 PM
What reason did ebay give for pulling your auction? There is something your either not telling us or ebay has made a mistake. Eitherway your language and choice of terms, besides fullfilling Godwin's law are offensive. You evidently have no concept of what a Nazi is if you think the actions you described above are in any way even remotely close to the systematic rape, torture and eventual mass murder of millions of people based solely upon their ethnicity.
The software agreement prevents the software from being transfered:
"If the product is advertised as used or Previously Registered, its license is generally not transferable (as dictated by the EULA). Any attempt to resale or transfer the product is prohibited."
Too bad you have to open the package, and start installing the software before you can read the EULA
Hmm.. Godwin's law should have discontinued this thread by now (I never liked such simplified laws. Attempts to make everything seem nice & neat!) And since I already paid for something I am prevented from selling, I have already lost!
As far as being offensive, that's just a relative matter of sensitivity. Some words can set folks over the edge while others hardly notice. (I loved that soup Nazi episode!). The atrocities of mankind cannot be simply cheaped by the use of a word. The real threat is when the schools are beaten down to soften up the edges of the past and to make sure not to offend anyone with such horrible facts of the past (I was in grade school way before this sort of foolishness started).
On the lighter side, I was a Sprint customer for the last 6 years before changing to Verizon due to my new location (bad Sprint reception) and Sprint always treated me great. Never experienced some of the horror stories I have read about here. I just hated their commercials (very offensive!)
Bohemian Iconoclast
05-13-2004, 06:13 PM
Twice in human history, bubonic plague (The Black Death) wiped out 2/3 of humanity.
If you could ask the bacillus, he would be alarmed. He didn't want the host to die, it's death for him.
In the case of the Nazis, the perception of self-survival involved exterminating other human beings.
If we allow that to be watered down further, we set the stage for it to happen again.
Wait a sec, we *have* watered it down, and it *is* happening again (Rwanda is one among many).
To forget (or cheapen) history is to be doomed to repeat it.
Blu3Fr0g
05-13-2004, 06:23 PM
Very well said Pysberian.
If our government is not careful, the same type of ethnic cleansing will happen in Iraq when the muslims decide that the Kurds have to go. It has happened in the past and is just waiting to happen again.
As for you Nugo, you need to go back and reread the constitution. My objection to your use of words doesn't violate your freedom of speech. Your one of the pathetic trolls who hides behind a "Not to be offensive" disclaimer and the first amendment. Thankfully this forum uses vBulletin which has this lovely feature that will let me banish you to oblivion. It's like a can of Troll Be Gone without the smell.
mgotcha: I agree the EULA sucks, unfortunately we computer users have allowed ourselves to be forced in to accepting the EULA before we can even open the box of software. It is one of those things where the software companies know they have you between the proverbial rock and a hard place.
Bohemian Iconoclast
05-13-2004, 06:26 PM
Even better, you didn't have to exterminate him. If you hadn't said anything, he could be going on with his life right now none the wiser.
:eyebrow:
Thug541
05-13-2004, 06:45 PM
haha wow The law truly took place here. Um, i'm not jewish but i am black so i know about oppression and all that fun stuff but yea.....take it easy man. The wod Nazi is not a curse word.
jimmyjames
05-13-2004, 07:10 PM
Soup Nazi, ShebbarNazi, Game of Nazi (or is that Yahtzee?) Nazi Pine, Will you go out with me? Nazi tonight.
No offense. In America, Freedom of Speech needs to nip at the heels of political correctness instead of dodging the feet.
I'm sure my family would be bigger if it weren't for murder, too, over thousands of years. Dam the Cro Magnon, dam the Crusaders, Dam the smallpox, dam the Native Americans that killed Custer (was I related? Don't know) Dam Scurvy, Dam the Egyptians for killing my curiosity with those pyramids. In the end, whatever they all did, I don't care if you mention any of them. That's what my America allows for. In fact, Soup-Magnon has a ring to it (not to be confused with a ringtone)....
No offense, just take things in context and accept that anybody, on any board, anywhere, can say anything they want to within rules and laws. Neither has been broken.
Well said.
Bohemian Iconoclast
05-13-2004, 07:12 PM
haha wow The law truly took place here. Um, i'm not jewish but i am black so i know about oppression and all that fun stuff but yea.....take it easy man. The wod Nazi is not a curse word.
If someone was to call you a Nazi, you wouldn't feel like fighting?
Where I come from, them's fightin' words.
Blu3Fr0g
05-13-2004, 07:15 PM
haha wow The law truly took place here. Um, i'm not jewish but i am black so i know about oppression and all that fun stuff but yea.....take it easy man. The wod Nazi is not a curse word.
So if someone used the "N" word in your presence, it wouldn't offend you? To someone who is jewish that term can be as offensive.
Some of you cats need to check your extreme sensitivity at the door.
BTW, who doesn't like Seinfeld?? I thought that was like the most popular sitcom of all time!?!?!? Starring Jerry Seinfeld, Executive Producer Larry David, two very prominent indivduals in the entertainment industry, and Jewish. They found it ok to throw around the word 'Nazi'...(sarcasm on)what on earth were they thinking!??!?(sarcasm off)
Bohemian Iconoclast
05-13-2004, 07:28 PM
Funny story.
A friend of mine posted on a forum that half of his family was exterminated, and others are trying to say that *he* has a sensitivity problem.
If it's so funny, how come I'm not laughing?
:confused:
jimmyjames
05-13-2004, 07:28 PM
They found it ok to throw around the word 'Nazi'...(sarcasm on)what on earth were they thinking!??!?(sarcasm off)
(sarcasm on) that people would be grown up about it and not take it so far out of context as to make themselves look foolish? (sarcasm off)
Blu3Fr0g
05-13-2004, 07:31 PM
Depends on who you ask as to how popular it was or is. I am sure you can find people who could valdily argue that with facts, I can't because I don't know. *I* didnt like the show and do not really care for Jerry Seinfeld. As far as their being jewish, doesn't mean they cant bother or offend me. It's not like just because they are jews that they can do no wrong. It also doesn't mean that they are right.
Bohemian Iconoclast
05-13-2004, 07:37 PM
I will say that some of the best comedy is offensive.
Just don't be stupid enough to post a link to Trey Parker and Matt Stone animation around here. You have any idea how many cartoon characters gave their lives so you could laugh at "Bigger, Longer and Uncut??" :violin:
imtravis
05-13-2004, 07:45 PM
Soup Nazi, ShebbarNazi, Game of Nazi (or is that Yahtzee?) Nazi Pine, Will you go out with me? Nazi tonight.
No offense. In America, Freedom of Speech needs to nip at the heels of political correctness instead of dodging the feet.
I'm sure my family would be bigger if it weren't for murder, too, over thousands of years. Dam the Cro Magnon, dam the Crusaders, Dam the smallpox, dam the Native Americans that killed Custer (was I related? Don't know) Dam Scurvy, Dam the Egyptians for killing my curiosity with those pyramids. In the end, whatever they all did, I don't care if you mention any of them. That's what my America allows for. In fact, Soup-Magnon has a ring to it (not to be confused with a ringtone)....
No offense, just take things in context and accept that anybody, on any board, anywhere, can say anything they want to within rules and laws. Neither has been broken.
I'm gonna have to agree with you on that one. If I were to take offense at all of the murders, rape, pilaging that happened to my family I'd completely hate everyone. My family was one of the many Native Americans that had to run from the government to avoid being put in a Reservation, when in reality they were just stealing the land and putting the Natives in a small piece of property.
Thug541
05-13-2004, 07:57 PM
Well said well said. And to answer the question...Nazi is not an offensive word such as the N word. THat has been used for years to insult african americans. Nazi is short for Nationalsozialist which was a political party. Thats like me taking offense any time i see KKK or Ku Klux Klan is mentioned. I don't, because its not an insulting term. Yes its both are the name of horrible groups of people but i dont' see why someone would be insulted from hearing the word nazi.
Thug541
05-13-2004, 08:01 PM
If someone was to call you a Nazi, you wouldn't feel like fighting?
Where I come from, them's fightin' words.
Um...no one was calling anyone on this forum a nazi. Maybe the original poster was calling future dial a nazi but how bout we let them setttle their own fights. When u start using nazi to insult someone specifically, then the person being offened can be angry. But unless anyone of you work for futurdial i don't see what this post is still going on. I'm not gonna flip out because someone wrote the word nazi....i woudlnt' even flip out if someone wrote the N word on this forum, as long as it wasnt' being used as an insult to blacks. Now, do u think him using the word nazi was an insult to jews?
Edit: Also, i think its ignorant to get into a fight ever unless your life is being threatned. I guess thats why i've never been in a fight. It takes a bigger man to squash the beef with words.
Bohemian Iconoclast
05-13-2004, 08:04 PM
The answer to the offense is simple....to forget history is to be doomed to repeat it.
Think about this: Hitler would not have been possible had there been no mass media and other technological innovations to make it possible.
The farther we advance technologically, the easier it is for a holocaust that is larger in scope to occur.
Three or four generations after that holocaust, we will be roughly where we are today.
"Dat s**t is old news, times have changed, Pops."
Times change, the human heart does not.
Thug541, nicely put.
Psyberian, OMFG!! DROP IT!!
Dude, seriously, put it to rest.
Someone lock this thread...PUUUUULEASE!! At least move it to the WC!!
rjmoose
05-13-2004, 08:33 PM
The title of this thread is:
They pulled my EBay listing!
Can we get back on topic?
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Bohemian Iconoclast
05-13-2004, 08:37 PM
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When they pass me by just fills me up with noise
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Talk about your damage and you’re wasting my time
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Just another ad for someone’s version of how they think it shouldbe
I wanna disconnect myself
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I want nothing right now
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I wanna disconnect myself
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AnthroMatt
05-13-2004, 08:38 PM
Wirelessly posted (Samsung-SPHA680 AU-MIC-A680/2.0 MMP/2.0)
Well said well said. And to answer the question...Nazi is not an offensive word such as the N word. THat has been used for years to insult african americans. Nazi is short for Nationalsozialist which was a political party. Thats like me taking offense any time i see KKK or Ku Klux Klan is mentioned. I don't, because its not an insulting term. Yes its both are the name of horrible groups of people but i dont' see why someone would be insulted from hearing the word nazi.
as someone who also had relatives die in Nazi concentration camps, i think this post is right on. your analogy is perfect.
AnthroMatt
05-13-2004, 08:39 PM
Wirelessly posted (Samsung-SPHA680 AU-MIC-A680/2.0 MMP/2.0)
Well said well said. And to answer the question...Nazi is not an offensive word such as the N word. THat has been used for years to insult african americans. Nazi is short for Nationalsozialist which was a political party. Thats like me taking offense any time i see KKK or Ku Klux Klan is mentioned. I don't, because its not an insulting term. Yes its both are the name of horrible groups of people but i dont' see why someone would be insulted from hearing the word nazi.
as someone who also had relatives die in Nazi concentration camps, i think this post is right on. your analogy is perfect.
AnthroMatt
05-13-2004, 08:41 PM
Wirelessly posted (Samsung-SPHA680 AU-MIC-A680/2.0 MMP/2.0)
stalin killed as many if not more Jews than the Nazis did...gr his name a forbidden word too?
Bohemian Iconoclast
05-13-2004, 08:51 PM
Hardly. Stalin is one of my heroes.
If it wasn't for him, people would still be believing the part in Communism about the government "withering away."
EDIT: Since you bring up numbers, let's go there:
Stalin - 20 million by best estimates TOTAL
Hitler - 12 million Jews *plus* 12 million "undesirables" equals 24 million.
Also, I doubt half of Stalin's body count was Jewish.
jimmyjames
05-13-2004, 08:55 PM
Thug541, nicely put.
Psyberian, OMFG!! DROP IT!!
Dude, seriously, put it to rest.
Someone lock this thread...PUUUUULEASE!! At least move it to the WC!!
werd (filler)
Very well said Pysberian.
If our government is not careful, the same type of ethnic cleansing will happen in Iraq when the muslims decide that the Kurds have to go. It has happened in the past and is just waiting to happen again.
As for you Nugo, you need to go back and reread the constitution. My objection to your use of words doesn't violate your freedom of speech. Your one of the pathetic trolls who hides behind a "Not to be offensive" disclaimer and the first amendment. Thankfully this forum uses vBulletin which has this lovely feature that will let me banish you to oblivion. It's like a can of Troll Be Gone without the smell.
mgotcha: I agree the EULA sucks, unfortunately we computer users have allowed ourselves to be forced in to accepting the EULA before we can even open the box of software. It is one of those things where the software companies know they have you between the proverbial rock and a hard place.
I laughed so hard that I jumped up and broke my guarded bridge in half! This is great! It's like watching a weeble wobble compete in a rodeo. Ride on, Blu3Frog. Try to keep in together for at least 8 seconds, now, ya hea?
Bohemian Iconoclast
05-13-2004, 09:35 PM
He already gave up. This culture accepts many racist icons.
Heaven help you if you display the Stars and Bars, though.....
Maybe, but you can go out and burn the stars and bars, and not be arrested.
Consequently, I have a T-shirt with a basic American Flag on it that has a caption beneath, which says the following: "Try to burn this one."
Call me a patriot, call me a yank, but whatever you do, don't call me Frank.
KevinK
10-13-2004, 05:46 PM
I'm still trying to get SnapSync to work with my Samsung A700 phone. So far, the software bombs out whenever I try to upload more than FIVE contacts to my phone. A level 2 tech support rep is supposed to try and help me in about an hour. And yes, I've downloaded the latest drivers, etc.
So if I can't get CrapSync to work with my phone, I'm stuck with something I can't return and can only hope to get paid scrap value from a CD recycling facility (if such facility even exists)?!?
Seems that F****Dial stormtropers ordered my EBay listing for a TP5250 data cable & CrapSync CD (proper legal copy) to be terminated. The CrapSync updates are so out of date, it would probably be a year before my new Kyocera SE47 was supported, so I was just attempting to sell it. Be warned if you do purchase the lame F****Dial software that it probably will not support your next phone, and if you try to sell or give away the POS, the F****Dial Nazis will come stomping!
rochfo
10-13-2004, 10:05 PM
No offense, but you might want to start a new thread...this one deviated from the OP a l...o...n...g time ago.
As an aside, you learn something new everyday: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
Especially enlightening are the corollaries below the main entry.
KevinK
10-13-2004, 11:27 PM
Good point rochfo. I've been so pi**ed at FutureDial that I didn't realize this thread was ancient.
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