NBA Free Agents

[SprintMamba]

Here's a list of Free Agents, where do you think they will end up????

Mike Bibby
Marvin Williams
Raymond Felton
Ben Gordon
Jason Kidd
Chris Andersen
Allen Iverson
Antonio McDyess
Rasheed Wallace
Ron Artest
Jarrett Jack
Trevor Ariza
Lamar Odom
Ramon Sessions
Charlie Villanueva
David Lee
Nate Robinson
Chris Wilcox
Marcin Gortat
Hedo Turkoglu
Andre Miller
Matt Barnes
Grant Hill
Drew Gooden
Shawn Marion
Anthony Parker
Carlos Boozer
Paul Milsap

I hope the Lakers resign Ariza let Odom go and sign Artest. The Bulls should go after Gortat, Boozer, or Turkoglu. Cleveland should go after Rasheed Wallace, Gortat, Odom, or Ben Gordon.

[bball1011]

I hope my Suns can pick up Rasheed Wallace if they don't trade Shaq for Chandler and pick up Hedo :fingers:

Nash, Richardson, Turkoglu, Stoudemire, Wallace or Chandler...that's one awesome lineup running "7 seconds or less" :tu:

[GrayKode]

we orlando doesnt resign hedo, i think we should get boozer or mcdyess


i think grant hill should retired while he can.

if CLE can pick up Hedo and A.I

that would be the squad
Wallace
James
Hedo
Mo Williams
A.1

[bball1011]

we orlando doesnt resign hedo, i think we should get boozer or mcdyess


i think grant hill should retired while he can.

if CLE can pick up Hedo and A.I

that would be the squad
Wallace
James
Hedo
Mo Williams
A.1
I think ORL should do everything it can to keep Hedo. He's one of those special players. I mean at 6'10 and play at a somewhat point guard position is impressive. Go over the luxury tax. He is worth it. Atlanta has all the money in the world to spend so if its money Hedo wants, then Hawks will pay.

Thats why I would LOVE for Shaq to be traded, this would give Suns about $10.5 to work with...depending on who we get in return...but would offer at least 9 to get Hedo.

No way Grant Hill should retire. He played 82 games last year and averaged 30 minutes coming off the bench. He still can play. I'm all for Hill returning to my Suns :tu:

If only Suns could get Hedo or Artest...we are title contenders again :D

I don't think A.I. and LJ23 could work together.

[88jr]

I DON'T want AI in Cleveland...PERIOD!

[tbakergobuck]

I DON'T want AI in Cleveland...PERIOD!X2. I don't see how anyone would want old basket case Rasheed Wallace.

[GrayKode]

hey guys..Quick Q, whatever happend to Steve Francis? and moby? they still in the NBA?

[bball1011]

X2. I don't see how anyone would want old basket case Rasheed Wallace.
I wouldn't mind Sheed with my Suns. He wouldn't be my 1st choice, but I think he could do pretty good in the 7 seconds or less offense, adds interior D, and shoots the 3 pretty good for a big that the Suns need. He played ok last year, but I think he just wants out of Detriot and really didn't care, but playing with Nash will make him better.

[bball1011]

hey guys..Quick Q, whatever happend to Steve Francis? and moby? they still in the NBA?
Didn't Mobley retire last year cause of heart problems???
Franchise was waived by the Grizzlies during midseason.

Rockets seem to get nothing to work after the Dream years *shakes head*

[tbakergobuck]

I wouldn't mind Sheed with my Suns. He wouldn't be my 1st choice, but I think he could do pretty good in the 7 seconds or less offense, adds interior D, and shoots the 3 pretty good for a big that the Suns need. He played ok last year, but I think he just wants out of Detriot and really didn't care, but playing with Nash will make him better.He might have a year or two left but he's been in the NBA for 13 years. I think he was banged up when he played the Cavs and it definitely showed. As of now I think he hurts a team more then he helps. If he wasn't such a hot head he might do better.

[bball1011]

He might have a year or two left but he's been in the NBA for 13 years. I think he was banged up when he played the Cavs and it definitely showed. As of now I think he hurts a team more then he helps. If he wasn't such a hot head he might do better.

The medical staff in Phoenix works miracles, just look at Shaq, Hill, Nash, and Amar'e so we can fix up Sheed in no time. Thats all we would need Sheed for anyway. We are looking ahead and need to dump Shaq and his crazy $20 mil salary, sign a few players with it (prefer Hedo or Artest) , and get ready for the 2010 free agents and offer the world to Bosh or Wade :tu:

[AL_CAPONE_187]

my rockets are keeping artest!!


you just want him because we got the best "kobe stoppers" (artest,battier) or best players than gives him a good challenge in the NBA on one great team.

:D

[bball1011]

my rockets are keeping artest!!


you just want him because we got the best "kobe stoppers" (artest,battier) or best players than gives him a good challenge in the NBA on one great team.

:D

I don't want Kobe stopped though, well I wouldn't mind if my Suns did it lol I just want my Suns to win a title with Nash. Artest isn't the missing piece, but would help out. Plus I wouldn't want my 2 favorite teams duking it out soooo I guess it would be better that you keep Artest :p

[SprintMamba]

He might have a year or two left but he's been in the NBA for 13 years. I think he was banged up when he played the Cavs and it definitely showed. As of now I think he hurts a team more then he helps. If he wasn't such a hot head he might do better.

Your crazy if you don't want Sheed he's exactly what the Cavs need a big that can shoot and play D.

[SprintMamba]

you just want him because we got the best "kobe stoppers" (artest,battier) or best players than gives him a good challenge in the NBA on one great team.

Ya they might be the best but they still didn't stop him this year did they

[bball1011]

Ya they might be the best but they still didn't stop him this year did they

Or ever will :D

[bkeyzee1898]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Iverson sign with the Mavericks or Bobcats......or maybe Knicks. Hmm....we'll see. Those teams seem like they wouldn't mind the HUGE risk. After all, those three franchises have had bad luck for a long time now. Why not roll the dice?

[tbakergobuck]

Your crazy if you don't want Sheed he's exactly what the Cavs need a big that can shoot and play D.Sheed used to show up every night but he's old and slow now not to mention he cry's way to much. The Cavs need a player like Bosh.

[bball1011]

If Amar'e leaves, there is no doubt Suns will do everything they can to sign Bosh next year. We were soooooooo close to making it happen at the trade deadline this year, but our GM is a chicken lol

I just pray we get rid of lane clogging Shaq to the Cavs, I was against it at first, but heck we'll do a straight up trade for old man Big Ben just to free up money. Please, please, please Lebron come and take Shaq!! lol

[SprintMamba]

Sheed used to show up every night but he's old and slow now not to mention he cry's way to much. The Cavs need a player like Bosh.

It's doubtful the Cavs get Bosh since he will be a FA after next season and theres no way they could afford to sign Lebron and Bosh. Cavs need a Gasol type trade since really have no $ to spend this off season

[GrayKode]

It's doubtful the Cavs get Bosh since he will be a FA after next season and theres no way they could afford to sign Lebron and Bosh. Cavs need a Gasol type trade since really have no $ to spend this off season

cavs have some good big men that can get better, they need another good scorer to help lebron, a good point guard would do. A.I would be a good PG to test the chemistry with.

[SprintMamba]

Imagine if Hedo signed with ATL

[GrayKode]

Imagine if Hedo signed with ATL

LOL..that would be a good team, but i hope bibby can step up and not be afraid to shoot some jumpers. ATL needs a good team leader to guide them

[bball1011]

cavs have some good big men that can get better, they need another good scorer to help lebron, a good point guard would do. A.I would be a good PG to test the chemistry with.

I agree Cavs need a scorer, but not A.I. Lebron and him would fight over the ball too much and A.I. isn't even close to being a good point guard. Everyone saw how he messed things up in Denver and Detroit. Cavs need Shaq!! lol

[GrayKode]

I agree Cavs need a scorer, but not A.I. Lebron and him would fight over the ball too much and A.I. isn't even close to being a good point guard. Everyone saw how he messed things up in Denver and Detroit. Cavs need Shaq!! lol

if the cavs get shaq then wow..they would be a force to be reckoned. they had the best record in the east this year, maybe with shaq they will go all the way...anything possible:hee:. but as for the Suns..they need surgery..they wasting money on overpriced player who arent playing too well ,especially for the salary they are getting payed. nash need some help, he cant do it on his own.

[bball1011]

if the cavs get shaq then wow..they would be a force to be reckoned. they had the best record in the east this year, maybe with shaq they will go all the way...anything possible:hee:. but as for the Suns..they need surgery..they wasting money on overpriced player who arent playing too well ,especially for the salary they are getting payed. nash need some help, he cant do it on his own.

We need a new GM. Suns actually have a young backup point guard who looks promising in Dragic and helped out Nash a lot in the second half of last season. I do agree they wasted money on Shaq, that's why I want him to leave and plus he does not fit well in the Suns system. You have to remember that the Suns had the best record in the NBA before they did the Shaq trade and everything went down hill from there. Hill is taking midlevel and does really good in our system. We need a center like Chandler and a good defender at SF and I will bet all my SU$ that we will be title contenders again :tu:

[bball1011]

Bucks trade Jefferson to Spurs

Looks like the Spurs are trading Bowen, Oberto, and Thomas to the Bucks for Richard Jefferson. I think this is an awesome trade for the Spurs and the West just got tighter than what it was this year. I can't wait for the draft and free agency to start!!

[SprintMamba]

Bucks trade Jefferson to Spurs

Looks like the Spurs are trading Bowen, Oberto, and Thomas to the Bucks for Richard Jefferson. I think this is an awesome trade for the Spurs and the West just got tighter than what it was this year. I can't wait for the draft and free agency to start!!

Oberto is a stud I think the Bucks got the best of this trade. Jefferson plays the same position as Manu

[bball1011]

Oberto is getting traded to Detroit in exchange for Amir Johnson. I think Oberto is a big body but that's about it lol Manu can play SG and RJ can play SF. I think its a good combo with Parker and Duncan and bring Finley off the bench. I'd take that lineup lol

[SprintMamba]

Ok now that I see Oberto got traded and the Bucks will buy out Bowen and Detroit will prolly buy out Oberto and both will resign with SA The Spurs deff got the better of the trade.

[bball1011]

Yea the Spurs are evil geniuses and I hate them and Stern for screwing over my Suns :frustrate

[bball1011]

Wizards trade No. 5 pick to T'Wolves
Another good trade! Washington now has a good young scorer in Foye and a good shooter in Miller. Cavs and Celtics beware of the Wizards :) T'Wolves now have the 5th and 6th picks in the draft. I wonder if the T'Wolves are setting up this trade to trade for a superstar? :thought:

[AL_CAPONE_187]

Ya they might be the best but they still didn't stop him this year did they


we did it better than any other team did. we gave them run for there money. in reality we were basically the only team that gave the "champs" a challenge in the playoffs.

but yes we put a stop to him better than anyone else. he really didnt have an huge outrageous game.

[AL_CAPONE_187]

Or ever will :D


lol he is not unstopable. no one is.

[xStriderx]

Wow, the Wizards might have a solid team this season!

By the way, the Celtics are shopping around Rondo and R.Allen. omg!

[SprintMamba]

Wow, the Wizards might have a solid team this season!

By the way, the Celtics are shopping around Rondo and R.Allen. omg!

I don't understand why they are shopping Rondo.

I wanna see what Detroit does with all the $$ they have to spend this off season

[bball1011]

Wow, the Wizards might have a solid team this season!

By the way, the Celtics are shopping around Rondo and R.Allen. omg!

Yea, Boston tried to trade Rondo/Allen for Amar'e before and word is they are trying to again. I'll shank the Suns' GM myself if this happens lol

[bball1011]

I don't understand why they are shopping Rondo.

I wanna see what Detroit does with all the $$ they have to spend this off season

I still want Sheed with my Suns :D I wouldn't mind Rip. I'd do this deal for Shaq. Detroit, Cleveland...step up someone and take Shaq lol

[SprintMamba]

I still think CLE needs to go after Sheed he's the best option for them at the lowest cost.

NBA Draft is tomm night also so I'm sure there will be some moves then

[bball1011]

Naaaa, Cavs need Shaq :p Yea Big Zeek is the slowest human alive. Sheed would fit nicely with the Cavs. I still think he can play, he just needs to be on a better team.

Yea, I think Draft Night is gonna be memorable, I have a feeling there's a lot of moves that are gonna happen. I wanna see what else the T'Wolves are gonna do

[SprintMamba]

The Portland TrailBlazers agreed to trade the 24th, 56th and worst of their second round picks in 2010 to the Dallas Mavericks on Wednesday for the 22nd pick in Thursday's NBA draft, according to a league source.

The trade has been agreed to in principle by the two teams. It should be finalized by the league office later today

[bball1011]

Jamal Crawford traded to Hawks

I'd bet the Heat and Cavs are going to want to pick up Bibby now that Atlanta has Crawford.

[SprintMamba]

Jamal Crawford traded to Hawks

I'd bet the Heat and Cavs are going to want to pick up Bibby now that Atlanta has Crawford.

ATL has Joe Johnson playin SG I don't see why they would get Crawford, he's not a PG

[xStriderx]

Runor was while back was ATL wanted to get rid of Joe Johnson or Josh Smith that way ATL had a clear leader and one definite style of play. The addition of Jamal probably means one thing.

[bball1011]

I don't see the Hawks getting rid of JJ, but ya never know the way these crazy trades are dropping in.

[bball1011]

Shaq traded to Cavs
Holy macaroni!! Yahoo Sports is reporting that Shaq will go to the Cavs!!!!
This gives my Suns about $10 mil...I can't wait til tomorrow!!!! :music:

[SprintMamba]

Shaq will help them but they deff need more help, I still think Sheed would have been a better fit.

This is interesting........

The Cavaliers were also in talks with New Orleans about obtaining Tyson Chandler. If they had not made the trade for O'Neal, they would have traded for Chandler, according to a source.

[bball1011]

The Suns are looking for a 3rd team to make this deal and they have wanted Chandler for a while, so if this is the case then Chandler is coming to Phoenix!! This is a dream come true .... if it happens *drools at Amar'e/Nash pick n roll with Chandler down low* :fingers:

[2k4mach]

Yea the Spurs are evil geniuses and I hate them and Stern for screwing over my Suns :frustrate

hehe, i was shocked at that trade, even though i heard from a very reliable source the day before that it was gonna happen.

[bball1011]

hehe, i was shocked at that trade, even though i heard from a very reliable source the day before that it was gonna happen.

Are the Spurs going to make any other moves? They really don't have to do much because they have one awesome lineup now. I HATE the Spurs with a passion lol but I can easily see them in the WCF and maybeee even in the Finals next year if they can stay healthy. Come on Lakers, keep Ariza!!

[w7excursion]

Shaq traded to Cavs
Holy macaroni!! Yahoo Sports is reporting that Shaq will go to the Cavs!!!!
This gives my Suns about $10 mil...I can't wait til tomorrow!!!! :music:

I saw that also :)

[bball1011]

Shaq will help them but they deff need more help, I still think Sheed would have been a better fit.

I think Shaq is going to hurt the Cavs. The medical staff got him into awesome shape down here, Nash got him the ball and into perfect position to score in every possession and he still hurt us with his slow, big, body. He did help us out with rebounding, but that is it. Poor free throw shooting and one year older... Good luck Cavs?

[xStriderx]

Orlando may just pick up Vince Carter too.

[GrayKode]

Orlando may just pick up Vince Carter too.

vince would be a good replacement for Hedo...But with all these trades, who knows what these owners got up their sleeves. Cavs my have acquired shaq only to trade him to another team in a package type trade deal.:bang:

[fakeguy]

vince would be a good replacement for Hedo...But with all these trades, who knows what these owners got up their sleeves. Cavs my have acquired shaq only to trade him to another team in a package type trade deal.:bang:

I don't know if I'd be totally in love with Vince, he has a rep for being too fragile. I'd rather have Hedo.

[2k4mach]

Are the Spurs going to make any other moves? They really don't have to do much because they have one awesome lineup now. I HATE the Spurs with a passion lol but I can easily see them in the WCF and maybeee even in the Finals next year if they can stay healthy. Come on Lakers, keep Ariza!!

they got there eyes on a couple guys that should go late 1st round/early 2nd round so there trying to move up in the draft.

ill go downstairs and see what the g/f says.........(she works for the spurs) lol

[bball1011]

Knickerbockers just bought the Lakers 29th pick for $3 mil ! This is good news as this is going to help sign Ariza and Odom :D

[2k4mach]

vince would be a good replacement for Hedo...But with all these trades, who knows what these owners got up their sleeves. Cavs my have acquired shaq only to trade him to another team in a package type trade deal.:bang:

i dunno bout that, vincesanity is getting to that age where he will be converting from the slasher type player to the more spot up shooter and midrange type player.

now id for sure take him if there inteding to bring hedo back as well but VC as a hedo replacement no way.

[bball1011]

Vince Carter traded to Magic

Looks like it just went down. Skip to my Lou, Battie and Lee go to Nets.

[2k4mach]

its gonna be an interesting off season i cant remeber a off season with so many players moving.

[tbakergobuck]

Cavs might trade Z or Varejao to move up in the draft and or they'll pick up a power forward.

[bball1011]

its gonna be an interesting off season i cant remeber a off season with so many players moving.

Everyone's getting ready for the 2010 season that's why. Suns are looking to trade Amar'e to the Warriors now...:irked: it better include Curry in that trade :fingers:

[xStriderx]

Interesting, Amare to the Warriors. He would be a great fit there.

[GrayKode]

Well Vince Carter is officially an Magic tonight.

We took Vince Carter and Ryan Anderson


and we gave them Rafer Alston, Courtney Lee and Tony Battie

i dont know why they gave up lee...i hope this trade was worth it.

:fingers:

[bball1011]

Amar'e traded to Warriors
It isn't official yet , but it looks like Amar'e is going to GS and my Suns will be getting Andris Biedrins, Stephen Curry (#7 pick), and a couple more players. Either it's rebuilding time or my Suns got something up their sleeve with all the money we now have :D

[AL_CAPONE_187]

Vince Carter traded to Magic

Looks like it just went down. Skip to my Lou, Battie and Lee go to Nets.

i kinda wish we still had skip and francis. oh well thats the nba. hopefully we dont make any stupid trades.

we might get stoudamire for mc grady.

there a bunch of trade talks going on right no. some i approve of and some i dont.

[xStriderx]

Howard, Lewis, Turkoglu, Carter, Nelson.

That's a true All-Star line up. Do you guys think their lineup will look that way or will Carter come off the bench as the spark for the 2nd unit like Ginobli or Odom?

[SprintMamba]

I doubt ORL is gonna try to resign Hedo watch him and AI go to the Bobcats.

Lots of deals being made this off season

[bball1011]

we might get stoudamire for mc grady.

there a bunch of trade talks going on right no. some i approve of and some i dont.

The only way I see the Suns trading for T-Mac is if the Rockets also send Landry and Scola in the deal and I don't see that happening, but I'd be all for that :tu: Right now it looks like Amar'e is going to the Warriors, but ya never know :)

[SprintMamba]

Rumor has it that Detroit will try and sign Hedo and Boozer, that would be a nice team.

[xStriderx]

That will be a nice team if they do that.

Orlando management are idiots for not resigning Hedo

[SprintMamba]

That will be a nice team if they do that.

Orlando management are idiots for not resigning Hedo

I agree, no way is VC gonna make them a better team than they were with Hedo.

[AL_CAPONE_187]

The only way I see the Suns trading for T-Mac is if the Rockets also send Landry and Scola in the deal and I don't see that happening, but I'd be all for that :tu: Right now it looks like Amar'e is going to the Warriors, but ya never know :)


lol tmac for Amar'e is ok.

but Amar'e is not good enough in my opinion for us to trade all 3 of those players. I rather keep what we have than to make that trade.

I think they wanted brooks and tmac for Amar'e. brooks is up and coming i say we keep him. tmac is just to injury prone.

[GrayKode]

That will be a nice team if they do that.

Orlando management are idiots for not resigning Hedo


LOL..call it what you want, but the team has to do whats in their best interest. i think orlando "was" willing to pay hedo alittle more, but i think hedo made it clear he plans on opting out and becoming a free agent after lee,alston and battie got traded, so the question is now who is going to get Hedo? detroit should get him if they smart. however, if CLE could management to get Hedo that would be a "killa" squad indeed.

[SprintMamba]

LOL..call it what you want, but the team has to do whats in their best interest. i think orlando "was" willing to pay hedo alittle more, but i think hedo made it clear he plans on opting out and becoming a free agent after lee,alston and battie got traded, so the question is now who is going to get Hedo? detroit should get him if they smart. however, if CLE could management to get Hedo that would be a "killa" squad indeed.

CLE doesn't have the $$ DET or POR are gonna sign him

[xStriderx]

LOL..call it what you want, but the team has to do whats in their best interest. i think orlando "was" willing to pay hedo alittle more, but i think hedo made it clear he plans on opting out and becoming a free agent after lee,alston and battie got traded, so the question is now who is going to get Hedo? detroit should get him if they smart. however, if CLE could management to get Hedo that would be a "killa" squad indeed.

What was in their best interest was to resign the guy who was the heart of your offense. Why mess up a good thing? With that squad you got to the Finals and by adding VC to possibly replace Hedo you're not getting the same type player.

[bball1011]

lol tmac for Amar'e is ok.

but Amar'e is not good enough in my opinion for us to trade all 3 of those players. I rather keep what we have than to make that trade.

I think they wanted brooks and tmac for Amar'e. brooks is up and coming i say we keep him. tmac is just to injury prone.

Hold up now lol Amar'e is good enough to trade for all 3 of those players. Put Amar'e with Artest, Battier, Yao, and Brooks(You can keep him, we don't want him lol)...that's a really scary lineup. He is top 5 scorer in the league and there is no one that can stop him one on one. His defense just needs a little more work. No worries we could fix T'mac cause the Suns doctors work miracles. Too bad this deal isn't going to happen.

[bball1011]

What was in their best interest was to resign the guy who was the heart of your offense. Why mess up a good thing? With that squad you got to the Finals and by adding VC to possibly replace Hedo you're not getting the same type player.

There goes Orlando's chance of getting back to the Finals again if Hedo leaves. I think if he stays, they can beat the Cavs and Celtics again.

[xStriderx]

^yah, VC doesn't play the same role as Hedo. Hedo ran the offense and made other teammates around him better whereas VC is a great scorer. If Orlando is looking to focus more on Dwight and make a force in the middle that's cool but the tandem they had with Dwight and Hedo was almost perfect.

[GrayKode]

LOL..there you guys go again with Hedo being the "heart" of our offense again, like Ive said before and will continuously, Orlando's offense consisted of numerous players who helped in the attack, this is what made Orlando such a hard to beat opponent this season, because are opposing team never knew which guy would step up that night to be the goto guy for shots, some nights it was hedo, some nights it was Howard, or pietrus or Lewis or nelson. in addition, we lost a good player no doubt, but that doesn't mean without him we cant contend and play magic basketball like we have done all season, even on nights when hedo was playing very poorly. I see most of you guys don't think Vince can be a good addition to the Orlando's lineup without hedo, but he may prove you guys wrong next season:Popcorn2:, Let us not predetermined what is to come or to be of next seasons match up,because we will never know what may happen next year, which can be anybody's guess,especially with all these trades occurring. plus hedos good guys, but he's no jordan yet, so i dont see whats the logic in you guys over-hyping the situation..lol. life will go on without hedo, and the magic will continue to win and lose games with or without him, like every team does.



btw other teams have bigger worries than Orlando, like CLE should ask themselves how does a team who had the best record in the east and maybe the league lose to a #3 magic team, Boston as well has some fixing to do, like get rid of KG:Popcorn2:

[GrayKode]

^yah, VC doesn't play the same role as Hedo. Hedo ran the offense and made other teammates around him better whereas VC is a great scorer. If Orlando is looking to focus more on Dwight and make a force in the middle that's cool but the tandem they had with Dwight and Hedo was almost perfect.


hah :haha:lol..are you more of an Hedo fan then you are a laker fan?:Popcorn2:

[GrayKode]

There goes Orlando's chance of getting back to the Finals again if Hedo leaves. I think if he stays, they can beat the Cavs and Celtics again.

I Disagree:hee:

[bball1011]

I Disagree:hee:

I bet you will agree with me sometime about mid-season and you will miss Hedo, Lee, Alston, and I'm pretty sure Gortat is gonna leave too. Why break up a team that made it to the Finals?? All you need is a healthy Jameer and you can still beat the Cavs and I still think you can beat Boston too as they are older, but not if Gortat and especially if Hedo leaves. Vince is a nice addition, but that is what you need additions, not replacements.

[2k4mach]

rasheed wallace is down here in san antonio :scratch:

[bball1011]

Hmm, tell him to come down to Phoenix :)

[SprintMamba]

Can't wait for all the action after today!

[2k4mach]

interesting that Okur and Boozer opted to not opt out lol.

[xStriderx]

What is this I hear that KG has been in constant contact with Sheed trying to convince him to come to the Celtics. What's crazy is Celtics is on the top of his list his agent says.

[SprintMamba]

Ya Sheed to BOS would be great for them.

Artest is gonna be huge wherever he ends up. LA CLE both want him.

[bball1011]

Wow, I hear the Raptors are offering a 5 year/$60 mil deal to Hedo. Looks like the East is finally gettin better.

[GrayKode]

Wow, I hear the Raptors are offering a 5 year/$60 mil deal to Hedo. Looks like the East is finally gettin better.

Hedoo noooo:eek:..lol..let me stop

but yea a cool 12mill a year isnt bad. thats more then what the magics were paying him anyway, as a nba fan i say he should take the highest bidder,but dont get too confident


and Yes, the east has always been the best..lol..coughes:hee:

[SprintMamba]

Hedo to TOR would help them out alot but only if they can end up keeping Bosh next year or else it's worthless. I think Hedo would help put POR over the top tho.

I heard B Gordon agreed to sign with DET already

[GrayKode]

aww that sucks..Chicago had a great squad..B Gorden was chicago..thats a big loss for them

[SprintMamba]

aww that sucks..Chicago had a great squad..B Gorden was chicago..thats a big loss for them

I disagree Ben was a great offensive player but he was a liability on D. Defense wins championships.

[bball1011]

Pistons paying Gordon $11 mil for 5 years! I can't believe everyone is getting paid like crazy!

[SprintMamba]

Looks like Lakers might let Ariza walk. If they do they better get Artest

The Clippers Wednesday traded Zach Randolph to Memphis Grizzlies for guard Quentin Richardson, the LA Times has learned.

The Detroit Pistons struck first Wednesday, getting commitments from their top two free-agent targets, Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva.

Gordon agreed to a five-year, $55 million deal, according to a source familiar with the negotiations. Villanueva, the source said, also has committed to the Pistons, though details were still being worked out. Free agents could begin negotiating deals at midnight Wednesday, but can't sign them until July 8, after the salary cap and luxury tax for 2009-10 are agreed upon by the league and players association.

[AL_CAPONE_187]

Ya Sheed to BOS would be great for them.

Artest is gonna be huge wherever he ends up. LA CLE both want him.

come on artest stay in Houston :)

[AL_CAPONE_187]

Looks like Lakers might let Ariza walk. If they do they better get Artest

The Clippers Wednesday traded Zach Randolph to Memphis Grizzlies for guard Quentin Richardson, the LA Times has learned.

The Detroit Pistons struck first Wednesday, getting commitments from their top two free-agent targets, Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva.

Gordon agreed to a five-year, $55 million deal, according to a source familiar with the negotiations. Villanueva, the source said, also has committed to the Pistons, though details were still being worked out. Free agents could begin negotiating deals at midnight Wednesday, but can't sign them until July 8, after the salary cap and luxury tax for 2009-10 are agreed upon by the league and players association.


Never!!! :mad:

lol.

Artest should stay in Houston.

[bball1011]

Sorry Al, but I doubt Artest is gonna be a Rocket next year unless Houston ends up with Amar'e. He wants to win a title and make more money. I doubt Artest will sign with the Cavs either. I don't think they got the money to get him now that they took Shaq off our hands :tu: If Ariza does leave L.A., then I think Artest will be a Laker and get his first ring next year. :D

[xStriderx]

I can live with Ariza leaving if we acquire Artest. For one, Ariza is this year's Posey. He's a great player who did a lot of the little things to put us over the top but can easily be replaced. Artest''s numbers speak for themselves. Ariza offensively isn't that great. He's a player that benefited from having Bryant and Gasol on his team so a lot of his points were assisted wide open baskets. Having Artest means we have another player who can create their own shots and shots for others.

Artest>Ariza

[tbakergobuck]

I hope the Cavs get Ariza. :fingers::)

[SprintMamba]

I can live with Ariza leaving if we acquire Artest. For one, Ariza is this year's Posey. He's a great player who did a lot of the little things to put us over the top but can easily be replaced. Artest''s numbers speak for themselves. Ariza offensively isn't that great. He's a player that benefited from having Bryant and Gasol on his team so a lot of his points were assisted wide open baskets. Having Artest means we have another player who can create their own shots and shots for others.

Artest>Ariza

Forsure! Ariza is a bit over rated right now, don't get me wrong he played great in the playoffs but it was also his contract year.

[AL_CAPONE_187]

ill reply to the other post as soon as i can


but ya even though it looks like artest is done here :( i still wish we sign him but im not sure how that will work if it works. I hope he goes to the cavs if he dont sign with us.


on another note i jut read that ariza is in talks with us. That morey and him met in vegas.

[SprintMamba]

Sheed gets a offer from Boston 2 year at the MLE...just aired as breaking news on SC....said he is in no rush to make a decision

Gortat verbally commits to Mavs. Marcin Gortat says hes going to sign with dallas according to Marc Stein

[xStriderx]

Artest says he's heading to the Lakers!

[king_koopa]

Artest says he's heading to the Lakers!

I haven't been able to SLEEP because of the Rockets this past week. frustrate:frustrate:irked::mad::mad::mad::mad::ban g:Lakers!:bang:CAVS

Lets hope we can sign Rasheed before Boston gets their hands on them :fingers:

The Rockets seriously need :1zhelp:

[AL_CAPONE_187]

I haven't been able to SLEEP because of the Rockets this past week. frustrate:frustrate:irked::mad::mad::mad::mad::ban g:Lakers!:bang:CAVS

Lets hope we can sign Rasheed before Boston gets their hands on them :fingers:

The Rockets seriously need :1zhelp:



i agree im mad. but him signing with the "lakers" explains alot though. . .


anyways looks like artest signs with lakers and ariza signs with the rockets.

[SprintMamba]

Woooooooooo so happy LA got Artest bye Ariza thanks for the job well done but we just upgraded BIG TIME!! Now they better sign LO

[fakeguy]

Wow so Artest can't beat him so he joins him. I never saw this coming. The lakers are going to be VERY hard to beat next year. Wow.

[bball1011]

I smell back to back champions :D

[AL_CAPONE_187]

now it all makes sense. . .

[nohbdyshero]

Artest for Ariza is a good trade for LA

[MsRandall]

I smell back to back champions :D

I love me some Ariza but a second or third leading scorer like Artest on the Lakers...I smell a repeat too
:headbang2

[AL_CAPONE_187]

Artest for Ariza is a good trade for LA


for the "lakers" ya. not for us. we got ariza. we will take him i suppose but i still rather have artest.


but it wasnt a good trade.

[bball1011]

Now word is that Hedo is going to Portland for 5 year/$50 mil-ish. I thought he would've been a better fit in Toronto. I guess it doesn't matter where you go when you're offered that kind of money though.

[SprintMamba]

Now word is that Hedo is going to Portland for 5 year/$50 mil-ish. I thought he would've been a better fit in Toronto. I guess it doesn't matter where you go when you're offered that kind of money though.

Hedo is gonna make POR the 3rd best team in the West.

[xStriderx]

I think once again the Lakers out did everyone in the FA market. Shaq to Cleveland was nice, Vince to Magic was cool but Arrtest to the Lakers is like WHOA. Not only does he replace an intricate piece but he's a major upgrade.muhahahah


Lakers 2 more championships.

[GrayKode]

Its been reported that Hedo has backed out of the Portland deal and is seriously considering Toronto, in addition, he feels that the Toronto diverse environment would be better for his family because of the strong Turkish population there. so the only question left is will Toronto give up rights to some of its free agents in order to sign Hedo?

[bball1011]

Toronto has plenty of cash and has an awesome GM in Colangelo. I heard they offered Hedo $60 mil before so I don't know why Hedo even bothered with Portland. Its gonna be fun watching the Raptors knock out the Cavs or Celtics in next years playoffs thanks to Hedo. I have a feeling Toronto is going to be really good :tu:

[tbakergobuck]

I think my Cavy's will be just fine and what the heck is on your head? ^

[SprintMamba]

Hedo going to TOR sucks for POR I don't think landing Hedo even puts them close to ORL, CLE, or BOS. Do they sign Marion now?

Where is Kidd signing?

[bball1011]

I think Toronto is better now. Like I said in my previous post, they will upset the one of the "top" East teams in next year's playoffs. Calderon, Bosh, Marion, Hedo, with Kapono and Bargnani coming off the bench. That is one dangerous fast lineup. I'm pretty sure Colangelo will make one more move, maybe at C that will make Toronto the suprise team in the East. ;)

I hear Kidd is being offered a 3 year/$24 mil deal from Dallas. The Knicks are after him too and he said he will decide after the holiday weekend. If he was smart he should sign with NY (Lebron 2010) instead.

On a personal note, Tyson Chandler going to my Suns is looking better and better !!! :fingers:

[bball1011]

I think my Cavy's will be just fine and what the heck is on your head? ^

Awwww that's my headband with a pretty pink bow on it :( and yes the Cavs will be fine winning their division and making the playoffs jus like they did last year. Idk how people think big old Shaq is taking them to the Finals. Silly people ;)

[GrayKode]

Awwww that's my headband with a pretty pink bow on it :( and yes the Cavs will be fine winning their division and making the playoffs jus like they did last year. Idk how people think big old Shaq is taking them to the Finals. Silly people ;)

And One sexy pink headband it is:wiggle:



On a side note, anyone know if it has been confirmed on whether or not Lebron will stay in clevland? July 8 is around the corner and anything can happen:tu:

[xStriderx]

Lebron wouldn't leave Shaq after he just came to help him get a ring. No one including Shaq would let him live that down.

[tbakergobuck]

No one knows how these trades will help or hurt there team. I doubt Orlando will have a year like they did last year. Lakers look great on paper but I guess I'm the only one thinking Artest could screw things up. Boston is getting old and who know how KG will be after having knee surgery. The Cavs should be better then last year with the team they have now but hopefully they get that power forward they need.

[psychosteve]

Another Suns fan here!

I've been reading up on tons of rumors and so far....

Ben Gordon to Detroit (as we all know) but it may turn into a sign-and-trade for Iverson. So Iverson to Bulls....Gordon to Detroit.

Rasheed: Sounds like he will go to Boston BUT I also heard he is talking to the Magic.

Hedo: Raptors

Hill: I would love him back on the Suns but nothing I have heard yet

Ben Wallace: The Suns from what I heard can trade him for Chandler RIGHT NOW, but they are exploring other options...WHAT OTHER OPTIONS???? Get Chandler now!!

I would love for the Suns to bring back Marion as he was my favorite Sun but I doubt it.

[bball1011]

Sheed is going to sign with Boston for mid-level. I really like that move. I see Boston as the favorites in the East now (if KG's knee is good). Finally sweet revenge for the Lakers next year :D

Thanks GrayKode :tu:

Yes psychosteve!!! I totally agree that we need to sign Tyson Chandler and bring the Matrix back!! We were the highest scoring team in the league with Marion and yes we didn't have a good defense, but I really think it would change with Chandler at C, well at least our pick n' roll defense. If you watched the Suns every game like I have been doing for the past few years, you saw how Shaq just destroyed our team because of his size and slowness. Anyways, I could go on forever with my Suns lol

Oh yea I hear Boozer might go with Detroit and they are looking better and better on paper if it happens.

[xStriderx]

^I thought Boozer agreed not to opt out this year do to the financial pinch felt by most the teams.

Anyways, Fisher, Bryant, Artest, Odom/Gasol and Bynum seem to be the best line up in the NBA.

[SprintMamba]

Sheed to Boston is huge if they can stay healthy.

[bball1011]

^I thought Boozer agreed not to opt out this year do to the financial pinch felt by most the teams.

Anyways, Fisher, Bryant, Artest, Odom/Gasol and Bynum seem to be the best line up in the NBA.

Boozer did decide not to opt out, but he might go to Detroit by trade. The Jazz wanna play Millsap more and at the same time want to get rid of the 12 mil Boozer is gonna make. So I guess Boozer is gonna get paid but the Jazz don't wanna be that team to pay.

[psychosteve]

There is a rumor Marion might come back to the Suns!!!! PLEASE BE TRUE!!!

:clap:

[bball1011]

There is a rumor Marion might come back to the Suns!!!! PLEASE BE TRUE!!!

:clap:

There is a rumor, but I don't know why Marion would come back?? He got all sensitive when he was in all the trade rumors before they did the Shaq trade and then talked crap about Kerr. Don't get me wrong, I would love Marion back though. It'd be like the old ssol Suns which was the funnest team to watch!!

Gortat close to reaching a deal with Mavs, just waiting to see if Orlando will match the offer.

[advancephlowa]

Here's a list of Free Agents, where do you think they will end up????

Mike Bibby
Marvin Williams
Raymond Felton
Ben Gordon
Jason Kidd
Chris Andersen
Allen Iverson
Antonio McDyess
Rasheed Wallace
Ron Artest
Jarrett Jack
Trevor Ariza
Lamar Odom
Ramon Sessions
Charlie Villanueva
David Lee
Nate Robinson
Chris Wilcox
Marcin Gortat
Hedo Turkoglu
Andre Miller
Matt Barnes
Grant Hill
Drew Gooden
Shawn Marion
Anthony Parker
Carlos Boozer
Paul Milsap

I hope the Lakers resign Ariza let Odom go and sign Artest. The Bulls should go after Gortat, Boozer, or Turkoglu. Cleveland should go after Rasheed Wallace, Gortat, Odom, or Ben Gordon.

A lot of these players are role players that want a lot of money. There are four, possibly five players that NBA teams are going to push for. The Lakers need to resign Ariza and get Milsap or Gooden. Trying to put too many stars on one team is not a great idea...we saw that with Kobe, Shaq, Payton and Malone....I like Boston and the Spurs approach on getting players that work together. Wallace should go to boston along with felton. Ron artest should go to the heat. Carlos Boozer should stay with utah and try to get gordon. Some of my picks are a little extreme but I like to see good basketball

[psychosteve]

There is a rumor, but I don't know why Marion would come back?? He got all sensitive when he was in all the trade rumors before they did the Shaq trade and then talked crap about Kerr. Don't get me wrong, I would love Marion back though. It'd be like the old ssol Suns which was the funnest team to watch!!

Gortat close to reaching a deal with Mavs, just waiting to see if Orlando will match the offer.

Now they are saying he is probably going to the Mavs :mad:

[xStriderx]

A lot of these players are role players that want a lot of money. There are four, possibly five players that NBA teams are going to push for. The Lakers need to resign Ariza and get Milsap or Gooden. Trying to put too many stars on one team is not a great idea...we saw that with Kobe, Shaq, Payton and Malone....I like Boston and the Spurs approach on getting players that work together. Wallace should go to boston along with felton. Ron artest should go to the heat. Carlos Boozer should stay with utah and try to get gordon. Some of my picks are a little extreme but I like to see good basketball

Wow, so many things I see I want to talk about....


1.) Lakers don''t need to resign Ariza. They upgraded and got Artest who is a better match up for that position against Small Forwards like PP, Melo and Lebron. Lakers don't need Milsap or Gooden because they have already 3 centers that are very versatile and bring a variety of different things to the court when needed(Gasol, Bynum and Mbenga)

2.) By the way, the Kobe, Shaq, Payton and Malone thing did work but it was unfortunate injuries to Malone and Payton in the Finals that screwed them over.

3.) Wallace to Boston!?! Are you crazy! The reason they are bringing Sheed is to spread the floor and uncongest the middle for PP, Alan, and mostly Rondo. With Wallace in the midde playing alongside KG you'll have a crowded middle. I heard it said best when someone on ESPN radio said they need Sheed because right now it's like 5 players playing basketball in an elevator.

4. I agree Boozer should stay with Utah but Gordon coming to Utah:ohcrap: Are you crazy? They already have a predominant ball handler in DWill and don't need another shooting guard who needs the ball in his hands. They need another spot shooter for Dwill to drop the ball off to and hit.

[xStriderx]

Now they are saying he is probably going to the Mavs :mad:

He should have stayed with the Raptors. That would have been great. Hedo, Shawn and Chris B. nice line up right there that could have definitely suprised some teams in the East.

[xStriderx]

Wow, so many things I see I want to talk about....


1.) Lakers don''t need to resign Ariza. They upgraded and got Artest who is a better match up for that position against Small Forwards like PP, Melo and Lebron. Lakers don't need Milsap or Gooden because they have already 3 centers that are very versatile and bring a variety of different things to the court when needed(Gasol, Bynum and Mbenga)

2.) By the way, the Kobe, Shaq, Payton and Malone thing did work but it was unfortunate injuries to Malone and Payton in the Finals that screwed them over.

3.) Wallace to Boston!?! Are you crazy! The reason they are bringing Sheed is to spread the floor and uncongest the middle for PP, Alan, and mostly Rondo. With Wallace in the midde playing alongside KG you'll have a crowded middle. I heard it said best when someone on ESPN radio said they need Sheed because right now it's like 5 players playing basketball in an elevator.

4. I agree Boozer should stay with Utah but Gordon coming to Utah:ohcrap: Are you crazy? They already have a predominant ball handler in DWill and don't need another shooting guard who needs the ball in his hands. They need another spot shooter for Dwill to drop the ball off to and hit.

Had a brain fart for soem reason I was thinking Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace, lol.

[bball1011]

Word is the Cavs just met with Ariza and are trying to change his mind about joining the Rockets. If the Cavs do steal him from Houston, then I'll take back what I said about the Cavs reaching the Finals.

[w7excursion]

Sheed is going to sign with Boston for mid-level. I really like that move. I see Boston as the favorites in the East now (if KG's knee is good). Finally sweet revenge for the Lakers next year :D


I cant wait to see. :wavey:

[bball1011]

Andrea Bargnani has signed 5 year/$50 mil extension with the Raptors. Now I just hope Marion stays so that Raptors will make the East better, but Ric Bucher is reporting he is signing with the Mavs tomorrow. Grr :irked:

[AL_CAPONE_187]

Word is the Cavs just met with Ariza and are trying to change his mind about joining the Rockets. If the Cavs do steal him from Houston, then I'll take back what I said about the Cavs reaching the Finals.


wouldnt surprise me if he signed with the Cavs. being the fans of the rockets well most of them dont want him and rather have artesr back. so he might not really feel wanted by the city which means he might decide to sign else where.

[bball1011]

^ Ariza officially signed with the Rockets today, so you guys should be happy. I guess that means no Finals appearance for the Cavs after all :( ;)

Artest will wear the number 37 to honor Michael Jackson's "Thriller" album, which was the best selling album for 37 weeks in a row after it was released :tu: I love Ron Artest :D

[bball1011]

McDyess is signing with the Spurs, should make the WCF more interesting with the Lakers now next year.

[xStriderx]

Damn, Spurs really know how to put together a team. They have a really good chance of upsetting the Lakers. Actually, in my opinion I think they stand the best chance in the whole NBA.

By the way, pretty lame what LeBronze did earlier. LeBron gets dunked on by Xavier player, confiscates all video (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/LeBron-gets-dunked-on-by-Xavier-player-confisca?urn=ncaab%2C175293) He should be worried less about that tape and more concerned with how Kobe is getting his fifth ring.

[SprintMamba]

Damn, Spurs really know how to put together a team. They have a really good chance of upsetting the Lakers. Actually, in my opinion I think they stand the best chance in the whole NBA.

By the way, pretty lame what LeBronze did earlier. LeBron gets dunked on by Xavier player, confiscates all video (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/LeBron-gets-dunked-on-by-Xavier-player-confisca?urn=ncaab%2C175293) He should be worried less about that tape and more concerned with how Kobe is getting his fifth ring.

Spurs do have a great shot with the team they have if they stay healthy.

And Lebron needs to get off his high horse, he hasn't proven anything yet.

[2k4mach]

Damn, Spurs really know how to put together a team. They have a really good chance of upsetting the Lakers. Actually, in my opinion I think they stand the best chance in the whole NBA.

yeah RC and the crew did a great job IMO of revamping our aging roster.

Spurs do have a great shot with the team they have if they stay healthy.

yeah that dang ginobli and his ankles that are made of glass

[bball1011]

Spurs have a very very good lineup now, but I still don't think they can beat the Lakers. They still don't have anyone who can stop Kobe and if he is double teamed, there is one BIG option with Artest now that he can go to. Artest is good enough defensively to play Parker and once Parker is stopped, it's basically all on Duncan's shoulders. I can see Pau playing Duncan well as he did 2 years ago in the playoffs. I think the big key for the Lakers is if they can keep Odom. If so, I don't see them losing.

[2k4mach]

Spurs have a very very good lineup now, but I still don't think they can beat the Lakers. They still don't have anyone who can stop Kobe and if he is double teamed, there is one BIG option with Artest now that he can go to. Artest is good enough defensively to play Parker and once Parker is stopped, it's basically all on Duncan's shoulders. I can see Pau playing Duncan well as he did 2 years ago in the playoffs. I think the big key for the Lakers is if they can keep Odom. If so, I don't see them losing.

but..........if the lakers can stop parker and timmy, they still gotta deal with glass ankles ginobli and RJ :p
if the spurs can stay healthy they are really the only team in the west that made moves to challenge the lakers.

[SprintMamba]

ESPN.com is reporting that the Cavaliers have come to an agreement with free agent forward Anderson Varejao on a six-year, $50 million dollar deal.
Varejao may very well be the starting power forward for the Cavs now that Ben Wallace is finally gone. He has limited offensive potential, but could average nine or 10 rebounds and flirt with more than a block per game this season

Dahntay Jones signs 4 year (11 million) deal with Pacers

Chris "Birdman" Andersen re-signing with Nuggets

The Dallas Mavericks continued to revamp their team Wednesday evening, formally acquiring forward Shawn Marion from the Toronto Raptors in a multi-team deal that was still working toward finalization Thursday morning. As first reported on NBA-TV's "Game Time," Marion agreed to a five-year deal that will pay him $40 million, which was possible only with the help of the Memphis Grizzlies' taking on the contract of Dallas guard Jerry Stackhouse.

The Houston Rockets used the NBA Disabled Player Exception to sign free agent forward Trevor Ariza, according to general manager Daryl Morey.The NBA granted the Disabled Player Exception based on the fact that Yao Ming is not expected to play next season because of his broken left foot.The value of the NBA Disabled Player Exception is identical to the Mid-Level Exception. They both begin at approximately $5.8 million per year.The Rockets chose to use the Disabled Player Exception on Ariza because the NBA only allows it to be used on one player. The Mid-Level Exception can be broken up and used on one or more players.

[psychosteve]

I actually like the move by the Mavs because Marion needs to be in a fast paced offense i which Jason Kidd is great in. Also, Kidd and Marion played together with the Suns back in their younger years.

The thing I don't like about the trade is Marion is going to the Mavs and not the Suns!!! :(

[bball1011]

but..........if the lakers can stop parker and timmy, they still gotta deal with glass ankles ginobli and RJ :p
if the spurs can stay healthy they are really the only team in the west that made moves to challenge the lakers.

That's where Odom comes in, he can play Manu since he is long and left handed. Manu's strength is to go left and that's where Odom's D helps out. Kobe can play RJ. Problem solved lol If the 2 teams do meet in the playoffs, which I think they will, I think it will be a very good one. I just have to go with the Lakers because:

they are the champs and Kobe wants the Celtics.

they are now better on offensive and defense with the addition of Artest.

Bynum can't be hurt again (he is cursed if he is) and he will be a beast.

Spurs prone to injuries-Duncan (knees), Manu (ankles)

and most importantly because I hate the Spurs for screwing over my Suns lol

[bball1011]

I actually like the move by the Mavs because Marion needs to be in a fast paced offense i which Jason Kidd is great in. Also, Kidd and Marion played together with the Suns back in their younger years.

The thing I don't like about the trade is Marion is going to the Mavs and not the Suns!!! :(

I wanted my Suns to get Marion back too, but honestly my Suns need Kerr out as GM, he isn't doing anything because he doesn't know what the *bleep* he's doing???? Amare and Nash have publicly said over and over that they want to stay, but don't know if they are because no one is telling them anything???
Idk maybe Kerr is still working for the Spurs and screwing us over more :p

[xStriderx]

ESPN.com is reporting that the Cavaliers have come to an agreement with free agent forward Anderson Varejao on a six-year, $50 million dollar deal.
Varejao may very well be the starting power forward for the Cavs now that Ben Wallace is finally gone. He has limited offensive potential, but could average nine or 10 rebounds and flirt with more than a block per game this season

Dahntay Jones signs 4 year (11 million) deal with Pacers

Chris "Birdman" Andersen re-signing with Nuggets

The Dallas Mavericks continued to revamp their team Wednesday evening, formally acquiring forward Shawn Marion from the Toronto Raptors in a multi-team deal that was still working toward finalization Thursday morning. As first reported on NBA-TV's "Game Time," Marion agreed to a five-year deal that will pay him $40 million, which was possible only with the help of the Memphis Grizzlies' taking on the contract of Dallas guard Jerry Stackhouse.

The Houston Rockets used the NBA Disabled Player Exception to sign free agent forward Trevor Ariza, according to general manager Daryl Morey.The NBA granted the Disabled Player Exception based on the fact that Yao Ming is not expected to play next season because of his broken left foot.The value of the NBA Disabled Player Exception is identical to the Mid-Level Exception. They both begin at approximately $5.8 million per year.The Rockets chose to use the Disabled Player Exception on Ariza because the NBA only allows it to be used on one player. The Mid-Level Exception can be broken up and used on one or more players.


Am I the only person who thinks the Cav's overpaid for Sideshow Bob? I mean the guy can't guard the quick 4 types like R.Lewis(magic) and he's not strong enough to guard the K.G types. Seriously, in a market where Artest can be had for 6 mil, Hedo(who was without a doubt the MVP in the playoffs for the Magic) 10 mil and Chris Anderson(who is definitely more effective then Sideshow) for 5 years 26 mil they really got robbed.

[2k4mach]

Am I the only person who thinks the Cav's overpaid for Sideshow Bob? I mean the guy can't guard the quick 4 types like R.Lewis(magic) and he's not strong enough to guard the K.G types. Seriously, in a market where Artest can be had for 6 mil, Hedo(who was without a doubt the MVP in the playoffs for the Magic) 10 mil and Chris Anderson(who is definitely more effective then Sideshow) for 5 years 26 mil they really got robbed.

i agree. i would have paid him no more than the MLE

[bball1011]

Am I the only person who thinks the Cav's overpaid for Sideshow Bob? I mean the guy can't guard the quick 4 types like R.Lewis(magic) and he's not strong enough to guard the K.G types. Seriously, in a market where Artest can be had for 6 mil, Hedo(who was without a doubt the MVP in the playoffs for the Magic) 10 mil and Chris Anderson(who is definitely more effective then Sideshow) for 5 years 26 mil they really got robbed.

I think Lebron just likes playing with Anderson's hair and c'mon now you can't make Queen James unhappy. Duh. Seriously though the Cavs aren't doing anything, but trying to make Lebron happy and will do whatever he says to help him stay. That's why they got Shaq because Lebron wanted him, but the Queen and Cavs are clueless and that's why no other top free agents decided to sign with the Cavs.

[2k4mach]

I wanted my Suns to get Marion back too, but honestly my Suns need Kerr out as GM, he isn't doing anything because he doesn't know what the *bleep* he's doing???? Amare and Nash have publicly said over and over that they want to stay, but don't know if they are because no one is telling them anything???
Idk maybe Kerr is still working for the Spurs and screwing us over more :p

kerr just straight up sux as a GM, that whole shaq trade was retarded. i thought he was the missing piece yet timmy and the crew went about there ways and made the sun set on the suns again lol. although last season i kinda put some of the blame on the players as they still didnt understand how to play defense :icon_smil

[bball1011]

kerr just straight up sux as a GM, that whole shaq trade was retarded. i thought he was the missing piece yet timmy and the crew went about there ways and made the sun set on the suns again lol. although last season i kinda put some of the blame on the players as they still didnt understand how to play defense :icon_smil

Defense...what's that??? lol Suns weren't that great at playing D before Shaq and then became the worst defensive team in the league with Shaq. Yea you guys owned us in that 1st round series 2 years ago...Duncan hitting that 3 to tie was heart breaking :( So come on 2k4 you can tell me if Kerr is on your side, I won't hate, that would actually be pretty genius of them lol

[bball1011]

SprintMamba check your PM!!! lol

[2k4mach]

as far as i know Kerr isnt working for us but ill ask my g/f just to be sure. that was 1 of the best 1st round series games ive ever seen and the best part was i was there 8th row hehe.
i do hope the suns retool with some of those run and gun type players as it is a lot of fun to watch those games.

[bball1011]

Don't remind me of that game anymore please :p I bet you must get awesome seats cause of your g/f. Best I've sat is in the 7th row in Phoenix. Doesn't Shaq look like a bear in person?! lol

3 team deal being discussed:

Carlos Boozer to Chicago

Kirk Hinrich to Portland

Tyrus Thomas to Utah

Utah is retarded if they make this trade (they do want to clear $12 mil though), but Portland gets a really good player in Hinrich :tu:

[2k4mach]

Don't remind me of that game anymore please :p I bet you must get awesome seats cause of your g/f. Best I've sat is in the 7th row in Phoenix. Doesn't Shaq look like a bear in person?! lol

3 team deal being discussed:

Carlos Boozer to Chicago

Kirk Hinrich to Portland

Tyrus Thomas to Utah

Utah is retarded if they make this trade (they do want to clear $12 mil though), but Portland gets a really good player in Hinrich :tu:

shaq just looks huge hehe. yeah having a g/f that works for the spurs does have its perks.


ill be out in phx in the next few weeks and im scared to tell anyone where im from, scared of all you suns fans that are mad at the spurs :D

utah is stupid if they do that, i thought portland was going after milsap. that would be good for chicago they would have them a decent back to the basket post player.

[SprintMamba]

All Portland needs is a PG and Boozer would be great on the Bulls

[xStriderx]

Yah, Portland needs a solid PG. I like Steve Blake but I don't think the team will get to be one of the upper elite teams with him at the helm. I'm just waiting for J. Bayless to develop.

[bball1011]

Portland is talking with Andre Miller from the 6'ers. That would be a nice addition with Blake and Bayless.

Okur re-signs with the Jazz for 2yr/$20.8 mil. Not bad, I really like his inside/outside game (3 pointers).

[SprintMamba]

The Orlando Magic are trying to keep up in the arms race in the competitive Eastern Conference, agreeing to terms on Friday with free agent forward Brandon Bass on a four-year deal believed to be worth $18 million.

[bball1011]

^Good pick up by Orlando, Bass isn't close to a Hedo, but does have a nice touch mid range and can bang down low since he's a wide dude.

Hey psychosteve, we re-signed Hill and got Frye. Nash and Amar'e are supposed to get an extension soon. I think we get a decent C or PF and we are set for ssol again!! Good day for us Suns fans :D

[GrayKode]

Orlando did a good move by signing bass, so now dwight can have some extra help in the paint hopefully., are lineup starting to look nice. if we can get iverson as a backup PG then that would be great

[SprintMamba]

Lakers expected to sign Odom this week for about 8 mill

An NBA source has told the Orlando Sentinel that the Orlando Magic will match the five-year, $34-million offer sheet extended by the Dallas Mavericks to Marcin Gortat and thus retain him. The team would not be able to trade him until Dec. 15, at the earliest, if that's what the team wants to do.

[bball1011]

I think Odom wants to be back with the Lakers. He knows that they need him since they signed Artest and are offering him $8 mil which isn't that bad. I think he likes winning rings in L.A. :D

Magic are making a lot of smart moves this offseason, except for the Hedo thing. I'm surprised that Dallas was the only team that was really interested in Gortat? He looked really good in the Finals rebounding and running the floor.

[psychosteve]

^Good pick up by Orlando, Bass isn't close to a Hedo, but does have a nice touch mid range and can bang down low since he's a wide dude.

Hey psychosteve, we re-signed Hill and got Frye. Nash and Amar'e are supposed to get an extension soon. I think we get a decent C or PF and we are set for ssol again!! Good day for us Suns fans :D

Hey, they also finally bought out Ben wallace's contract...I guess Chandler isn't healthy enough for them to trade Wallace for him...Oh well.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2009/07/13/20090713spt-wallacebutout.html

[bball1011]

^ Tim Thomas was waived by the Bulls, he could be a nice addition to us again. Remember those big 3's he hit for us in the 06 playoffs? *tear* lol We are looking into Kurt Thomas again too. I'll be satisfied if we get them back. We won't win a title, but at least will be back in the playoffs again :tu:

[bball1011]

What in the heck??? Word is that the Lakers have withdrawn their offer to Odom now since he hasn't responded. Apparently, Buss offered Odom a 4 year/$36 mil deal or a 3 year/$30 mil deal and Odom and his agent are looking to get a 5 year deal at $10 mil a year?? What the heck is Odom doing? He wants to be a Laker, but stupid agents always step in and ruin things even when there's a good offer on the table grrr :irked:

[2k4mach]

lol odom wants the chedder

[bball1011]

Miami is now talking to Odom and wanting to get Boozer. If Utah matches Portland's offer for Millsap, it looks like Boozer is heading out for sure. The Heat are offering a 5 year/$34 mil contract to Odom. That's not even $7 mil per year, yet Odom refused the Lakers' offer of $9 mil for 4 years and $10 mil for 3 years:frustrate

[SprintMamba]

I still think LA will resign Odom, the fact that he hasn't signed anywhere else yet leads me to believe so.

[bball1011]

I sure hope you're right SprintMamba. :fingers: I don't understand why he doesn't just resign? I don't think anyone will offer him more than the Lakers are. I'm also seeing that Buss might do a sign and trade with Odom now.:indiff:

[xStriderx]

^At this point LO isn't looking for the money like everyone thinks but a 5 year contract in LA. He's getting older and realizes that so he's just trying to get that extended contract so he can probably play out his last couple years in LA.

[SprintMamba]

It's sad how players are all about the $$ these days. Even with Odom the Heat won't be as good as BOS ORL or CLE.

[bball1011]

Well if he wants that 5 year deal, I hear the Lakers won't do it, but Miami will. Wade is trying to get him over and supposedly they are very good friends. I just want it to be over. The Lakers are looking to reload some more, but have to wait for Odom to make up his freakin mind lol

If its not for the money, then it must be for another championship or maybe is it just playing for the fun of it and getting paid until he retires?? If its for a title then yea he will stay in L.A. I mean c'mon what is the big deal about getting a 5 year deal...that doesn't guarentee that he won't be traded later??

[2k4mach]

Well if he wants that 5 year deal, I hear the Lakers won't do it, but Miami will. Wade is trying to get him over and supposedly they are very good friends. I just want it to be over. The Lakers are looking to reload some more, but have to wait for Odom to make up his freakin mind lol

If its not for the money, then it must be for another championship or maybe is it just playing for the fun of it and getting paid until he retires?? If its for a title then yea he will stay in L.A. I mean c'mon what is the big deal about getting a 5 year deal...that doesn't guarentee that he won't be traded later??

but a 5 year fully guaranteed contract is like job security. even if he does get traded hes still gonna be getting paid the amount in the contract.

[bball1011]

I understand the 5 year contract agreement, but seriously, these guys are getting paid millions and I doubt they are struggling and if they are then they are really irresponsible. Do you think a 5 year/$35 mil contract is better than a 4 year/$36 mil contract?

This goes along with Big Ben just being bought out by my Suns for $10 mil and he was supposed to make $14 this year had they kept him. I doubt Wallace is going to lose any sleep over being bought out.

[SprintMamba]

Earl Watson was released by OKC and signed by Indiana

[bball1011]

My Suns sign Nash to a 2 year extension!! Finally back in the playoffs, one year away was way tooo much lol

[SprintMamba]

My Suns sign Nash to a 2 year extension!! Finally back in the playoffs, one year away was way tooo much lol

Now you better hope they don't trade Amare

[bball1011]

Now you better hope they don't trade Amare
That would suck so bad if Amar'e gets traded. The Suns are waiting until the season starts to see how his eye is doing to offer him an extension. I think that Amar'e will show up stronger, he always does after an injury. If they do trade him, then the Suns better get at least 2 good players in return that can play D and run the floor with Nash.

[bball1011]

Looks like Odom is finally going to re-sign with L.A.!! The deal is supposed to be for 4 years at $40 mil

[SprintMamba]

Looks like Odom is finally going to re-sign with L.A.!! The deal is supposed to be for 4 years at $40 mil

Link???

[2k4mach]

havent heard anything on Odom other than him and LA have started talking again

[bball1011]

Grrr I lost the source! Sry SprintMamba. I remember reading it, but I'll keep looking for it

[SprintMamba]

Grrr I lost the source! Sry SprintMamba. I remember reading it, but I'll keep looking for it

Reason I asked for a link was because it's just a rumor.....

[bball1011]

I can't find the source anymore and I've been looking like crazy so maybe it was taken off as being false. It sounded pretty legit but then again I just saw Buss is on vacation right now...so yea I guess it was just another rumor *sighs*

[2k4mach]

my spurs signed Theo Ratliff :icon_smil i guess its a decent move to add another shot blocker to the team but still i thought we were in the middle of our youth movement so we sign a 36yr old lol.

[bball1011]

It shouldn't bother you 2k4mach, your Spurs are evil geniuses lol I'm sure Ratliff will have a positive impact playing with Duncan and he's a vet and Pop is all about vets and D. Speaking of Pop, I hear he said that he'll leave the Spurs if they don't win the title next year?? You better pray Odom doesn't re-sign or your title days are over for a while down in S.A. :p

[2k4mach]

nah pop wont leave till timmy leaves and hes got i think 3 years left on his contract.
our D sucked last year if you ask me it was no where near the level were used to seeing from the spurs.

[SprintMamba]

Portland signed Andre Miller for 3 years, they are begginning to be a solid team with alot of youth watch out for them next year

[xStriderx]

Portland signed Andre Miller for 3 years, they are begginning to be a solid team with alot of youth watch out for them next year

This makes me happy. A solid vet who can handle the ball and make good decisions means less energy expelled by BRoy. Now all they have to do is develop Jared Bayless and we've got a solid line up.

[SprintMamba]

This makes me happy. A solid vet who can handle the ball and make good decisions means less energy expelled by BRoy. Now all they have to do is develop Jared Bayless and we've got a solid line up.

Miller will also make Oden's game alot easier by throwing him lob passes all the time. Only bad thing for Portland is that after next season they aren't going to be able to sign all those good young players to extensions

[xStriderx]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,2985902.story


Originally Posted by L.A. Times

Oddsmakers see Lakers as NBA favorites, with or without Lamar Odom

One bookmaker suggests that the team's addition of Ron Artest is better than losing free-agent forward.

No reason to panic, Lakers fans.

Whether free agent Lamar Odom stays in Los Angeles or leaves for the Miami Heat, Las Vegas bookmakers said Monday they don't anticipate anything that would drop the Lakers from their perch as preseason favorites to win the NBA championship -- again.

"Getting [forward Ron] Artest is better than losing Lamar," said Jay Rood, director of the MGM/Mirage Race and Sports Book. The Lakers signed free agent Artest this month. "The core of that team still is what it is, and as long as you keep Kobe [Bryant] and [Coach] Phil [Jackson], nothing changes."

At MGM/Mirage, the Lakers are an 8-5 favorite to win the NBA title, followed by the Boston Celtics, and recent addition Rasheed Wallace, at 3-1, and the Cleveland Cavaliers, with Shaquille O'Neal joining LeBron James, at nearly 4-1. The Orlando Magic are 13-2 and the San Antonio Spurs are 7-1.

"We didn't change anything when they got Artest, and if they lose Odom it'll just be a wash," said Jay Kornegay, executive director of the Las Vegas Hilton's Race and Sports book, which has the Lakers as the 2-1 favorite over the 3-1 Cavaliers and 5-1 Celtics.

"Odom's a component, but he's not a star. As that team has already shown, if they lose someone, they'll find someone else."

Those who assess these situations, with millions of dollars on the line, believe the possible loss of Odom will not diminish support for what is essentially Las Vegas' hometown team.

So why change the Lakers' odds to 3-1 or 4-1 when the betting action supporting the team is already intense?

"The public has shown they'll support the Lakers and the team proved last season they can get by without a big man," Rood said, referring to the injury absence of center Andrew Bynum. "And the return of Bynum is another big thing for that team, that makes them so much more dangerous."

Odom's effect at the sports book will be only slight, bookmakers say, if he goes to Miami. Rood said he'd likely drop the Heat from 25-1 to around 22-1.

"He might make Miami significantly better but they still have the Celtics, Cavs and Magic in front of them," Rood said.

[SprintMamba]

If Lakers lose Odom they are gonna need some help on there bench, but adding Artest deff makes them better than if they had just kept Ariza IMO. Problem is if Lakers do have to try and sign someone they only have the Vet minimun to spend which isn't gonna draw anyone of Odoms caliber. Lakers need to sign LO if they want to repeat.

If Boston stays healthy I think they will win the East. I think Orlando losing Turkolu is gonna really change the way they play, but they deff have a better bench. Shaq to Cleveland is questionable to me so I'm waiting to see how that works for them. And I think Toronto will be in the top 4 now with adding Tukolu.

[bball1011]

^Seriously, what is Odom thinking??? I'm not even gonna watch this any more :frustrate

[bball1011]

Finally!!! Odom agrees to 4 year deal!!! Lakers get number 16 in 2010 :D
SOURCE ------> http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4367213

[SprintMamba]

Finally!!! Odom agrees to 4 year deal!!! Lakers get number 16 in 2010 :D
SOURCE ------> http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4367213

Thank God!! Bring on the repeat!!

[bball1011]

Heck yea! maybe even four peat!....maybe :tu:

[BlackberryUser]

So who is the best FA left?

[bball1011]

I think Ramon Sessions is the best free agent left. I heard the Knickerbockers are really trying to sign him. He'd be awesome in D'Antoni's system.

[kb24]

I think Ramon Sessions is the best free agent left. I heard the Knickerbockers are really trying to sign him. He'd be awesome in D'Antoni's system.

Word. I was actually hoping that Allen Iverson would be hired as a one year Rent-A-Knick. That woulda been fun to watch. :D

[BlackberryUser]

Ya I think AI could be a great pickup if he was willing to come off the bench but he says he wont do that. Anyone have a list of the Free Agents remaining?

[bball1011]

It looks like the Knickerbockers are looking to do a sign and trade with David Lee. Old man Bruce Bowen I think is still available, Iverson, Sessions and Stromile Swift are still free agents.

[BlackberryUser]

AI to sign with Memphis (sorry for double post)