2009 NBA Playoffs [Archive]

tbakergobuck

05-26-2009, 06:56 PM

The Cavs will even up the series tonight and they'll get home court back. I wouldn't bet against Lebron James if the series was 3-0. I know the Cavs got swept against the Spurs a few years ago but Leborn and the Cavs are a lot better now.

Did anyone read the article about the Chinese investors to buy into Cavs? If Lebron stays with the Cavs and they get another superstar (Chris Bosh) they'll win at least a few NBA Championships.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4202661

GrayKode

05-26-2009, 06:57 PM

Oh I see what happened tbaker to the original thread ... the OP was banned as a clone via our Spam Decimator so the thread went away, too.
Just roll with this thread now. :)

when he was banned, some of us lost our post count and SU's

i had 200 post count and 1,000 SU's prior to the disappearance of the thread. can we get it back?:1zhelp:

Quill

05-26-2009, 07:04 PM

when he was banned, some of us lost our post count and SU's

i had 200 post count and 1,000 SU's prior to the disappearance of the thread. can we get it back?:1zhelp:

I did what I could ... hopefully that helps. I'm not sure where the rest of your posts went but you got a good chunk back and the SU$.

GrayKode

05-26-2009, 07:06 PM

I did what I could ... hopefully that helps. I'm not sure where the rest of your posts went but you got a good chunk back and the SU$.

Thanks for the Quick fix:wavey:.

GrayKode

05-26-2009, 07:07 PM

w7excursion

05-26-2009, 07:09 PM

w7excursion

05-26-2009, 07:14 PM

I did what I could ... hopefully that helps. I'm not sure where the rest of your posts went but you got a good chunk back and the SU$.

Well I dont know how many posts I had but I donated 1,000 to SprintGuru4Eva and I didnt know he was a banned user. Can I get my $u back?

tbakergobuck

05-26-2009, 07:18 PM

I lost 40 grand SprintUser $$... Can I get that back. Time to get my drink on and watch the Cavs win game 4.

bball1011

05-26-2009, 07:33 PM

X-factor will be Lebron for tonight's game. He needs a quick start and go to the line at least 20 times

bball1011

05-26-2009, 07:35 PM

Uh I had over 350 posts total???? How do I get them back?

jaytv

05-26-2009, 07:37 PM

Should be a great game tonight. Watch how the Cavs shoot early to see how they will go.

GrayKode

05-26-2009, 07:50 PM

Uh I had over 350 posts total???? How do I get them back?

LOL..sorry no Refunds.:hee:

GrayKode

05-26-2009, 07:51 PM

I hope Mo williams can actually step it up tonight since he seems to be doing alot of taking to the media on how they are going to win this game tonight. if they dont win, he will look like a duck for speaking so soon:D

w7excursion

05-26-2009, 09:33 PM

foulfoulfoulfoulfoulfoulfoulfoulfouland a foul on the ref,foul on the water boy.............FOUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GrayKode

05-26-2009, 10:47 PM

Orlando 3-1 , GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MAGIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

w7excursion

05-26-2009, 10:49 PM

somebody owes me a small fortune in $U dollaz, tb and bball after one more game :)

GrayKode

05-26-2009, 10:52 PM

I Wonder how Mo williams feel now?...lol....DUCK indeed

tbakergobuck

05-26-2009, 10:59 PM

I'm not paying.... lol Anyone that thinks the NBA is set on Lakers vs Cavs in the Finals is crazy after that game. West got knocked down with 6 seconds and a Cavs 1 point lead and then Varejo gets tackled right before the OT. I guess it's a good no call but damn. I just don't understand why they call touch fouls all through the game but not in the last seconds. Well I guess Lebron got a call with .5. lol

GrayKode

05-26-2009, 11:09 PM

tbakergobuck

05-26-2009, 11:15 PM

I'm surprised the Cavs had a chance considering how well Orlando shot from the 3-point line. I thought that would cost them the game but Lewis was able to hit a wide open one in the last seconds. Every game has come done to the last few seconds and I know you guys think I'm crazy but I still think the Cavs have a shot even being down 3-1. 1 game at a time.

w7excursion

05-26-2009, 11:20 PM

Unlikely but still a chance. put some $u on it after you pay me lol

tbakergobuck

05-26-2009, 11:29 PM

Unlikely but still a chance. put some $u on it after you pay me lolI can't pay u, stupid database error. :lol: I will bet anyone 10 grand the Cavs win game 5.

bball1011

05-27-2009, 12:21 AM

*shakes head* I just don't get it...what is going on with the CLE defense? Why isn't Lebron posting up more? Why why why???? Thank goodness I'm not a CLE fan lol

xStriderx

05-27-2009, 12:25 AM

Mike Bibby > Mo Willliams

;)

xStriderx

05-27-2009, 12:27 AM

*shakes head* I just don't get it...what is going on with the CLE defense? Why isn't Lebron posting up more? Why why why???? Thank goodness I'm not a CLE fan lol

For the exact same reason I've said in the other thread in the beginning of the season. He is a power forward who doesn't know how to play with his back to the rim and his jump shot is mediocre! If he's not taking it to the basket he's not scoring. PERIOD.

fakeguy

05-27-2009, 01:17 AM

Sorry Tb but this series is over. Lebron can't do it by himself all the time, he needs help...

bball1011

05-27-2009, 03:09 AM

^ I love that avatar lol I wouldn't say its over...ok maybeeeee it is, but I think CLE will at least win the next one at home.

tbakergobuck

05-27-2009, 10:08 AM

fakeguy

05-27-2009, 11:29 AM

TB don't get me wrong I wanted the Cavs to win but 3-1 is too tough. You never know though...

88jr

05-27-2009, 12:23 PM

Yeah, Cavs are in good shape still for playing 4 pretty crappy games. They'll win game 5 and make it 3-2. If they can squeek out a game 6 win (should be able to do since they came so close twice playing bad), then that takes them back to Cleveland for a game 7!

w7excursion

05-27-2009, 02:18 PM

lol okay no more false hope.

GrayKode

05-27-2009, 02:34 PM

rsbas

05-27-2009, 03:50 PM

What GrayKode said! Go Magic!!!!!!!
Good luck Cav fans.

bball1011

05-27-2009, 04:18 PM

Not looking good for my Cavy's but 1 game at a time. As i said before I would never count out Lebron James. The Cavs problem isan't Mo Willams. They need a center. Looking back the Shaq trade might have been a good trade. He's old to but he at least would be able to foul Howard.
Thank goodness we didn't trade Shaq to CLE. We need to get Tyson Chandler not big slow zeek :D Anyway thats not for here, but yes that would've meant an easy ring for the Cavs this year lol As for CLE, they have a center, they just gotta get Howard in foul trouble. He fouled out a lot in the regular season, I wonder why he isn't fouling out in this series *shrugs*

bball1011

05-27-2009, 04:23 PM

You Cavs Fans are acting like orlando will laydown and let the Cavs win too games on us. yea right..lol. lastnight you guys were up in the 2nd, but couldnt hold the lead. so we fought and fought untill we came up. Cavs are good, but lets face it ,orlando is a better team. Lebron keeps doing well, 42+ points in this series, however 1 man cant do it on his own. Game 5, Orlando will beat the cavs on their homecourt. we should of had game 2 anyway,so just like we finished the 76ers and Celtics on thier own court, so shall we do the cavs:haha:
Hmmm, the series could just as easily be 3-1 CLE, but it just seems like ORL wants it more. CLE is being outcoached, Lebron isn't taking it inside more (yes I think he needs to take it way more inside), and CLE is making horrible decisions. Someone needs to slap the "coach of the year" across the face to wake his team up. He's coaching each game like its a regular season game. Where's the adjustments being made "coach of the year"??? The only thing Mike Brown changes are his glasses. :icon_smil

w7excursion

05-27-2009, 06:17 PM

The games have been close. Its not the coaching. Its the other starters(and bench) besides lj & mo, maybe even west. They lack confidence. Orlando doesnt have the bubble guts like the cavs do now.

GrayKode

05-27-2009, 06:50 PM

What GrayKode said! Go Magic!!!!!!!
Good luck Cav fans.

LOL..yess sir.. GOOO MAGIC:D

GrayKode

05-27-2009, 06:52 PM

The games have been close. Its not the coaching. Its the other starters(and bench) besides lj & mo, maybe even west. They lack confidence. Orlando doesnt have the bubble guts like the cavs do now.

Yea, we been in situations like this, with the 76ers and Celtics. cavs never had a team challenge them like this. tomorrow game has a big pressure on them, because every shot will count. if they shoot poorly in the 1st half then their confidence will be gone in the 2nd.

bball1011

05-27-2009, 07:08 PM

The games have been close. Its not the coaching. Its the other starters(and bench) besides lj & mo, maybe even west. They lack confidence. Orlando doesnt have the bubble guts like the cavs do now.
I'm pretty sure the coaching has something to do with it. I'm not saying its all of the coaching. I know the rest of the team has to step up shooting, but how are the players gonna defend mismatches. The match-ups on D that CLE is playing is horrible especially when I think Lebron should be playing Hedo. Hedo plays well when he has the ball and can see the whole court when little 6'3" West is guarding him. This matchup doesn't make sense to me at all.

w7excursion

05-27-2009, 07:36 PM

Even if he made the change the rest of the magic team is ready to shoot. Thats why the rest of the team needs to step up. They just put hedo on lj because hes big. Its smart to have west there on D cause he checks turg all the time. No need to change that IMO.

tbakergobuck

05-27-2009, 09:41 PM

I'll give Orlando credit, they made a few more clutch shots and that's why there up 3-1 but it's not like there blowing the Cavs out. Even with the Cavs inconstant play and mismatch issues they still had a chance to win every game they lost. It's to bad the Cavs have been missing open shots they hit all year long not to mention I thought they were better closing games then Orlando. I don't care for LA so if my Cavs don't pull of a miracle come back I would like Denver to win it all.

xStriderx

05-27-2009, 10:53 PM

Geezus, finally Odom steps up today.

bball1011

05-28-2009, 12:21 AM

Geezus, finally Odom steps up today.
Woohoo!! It was about time! Odom has been having back problems, but it looks like he is feeling a lot better now :) Brown played awesome D on Chauncey. It was a good night, very good night :D Tonight LAL finally played like the regular season team they were. They went down low to their bigs early and Bynum stepped up too, so hopefully that will give him more confidence for game 6 and the Finals. Its showtime from here on out. GO LAKERS!!!! :headbang2

MsRandall

05-28-2009, 12:42 AM

Woohoo!! It was about time! Odom has been having back problems, but it looks like he is feeling a lot better now :) Brown played awesome D on Chauncey. It was a good night, very good night :D Tonight LAL finally played like the regular season team they were. They went down low to their bigs early and Bynum stepped up too, so hopefully that will give him more confidence for game 6 and the Finals. Its showtime from here on out. GO LAKERS!!!! :headbang2

My prediction is Game 6 LA wins the series...

xStriderx

05-28-2009, 02:52 AM

I read this on espn and made me laugh:

Note to CAVS fans: you can have the MVP, we here in L.A. will take the best CLOSER in the GAME! So all the witnesses, can witness missed free throws in crucial moments of the 4th quarter. Witness extremely low three point and perimeter shooting percentage. Witness your supporting cast withering away in hostile post season play. Witness all the marketing ploys your star gains with a resume thats not battle tested nor proven. You so called "King" supporters make us in L.A. laugh. Your boy can't be compared to the legends. He hasn't proved anything!

bball1011

05-28-2009, 03:37 AM

^ Couldn't agree more with that.
Kobe has the experience, the clutch buzzer beaters, and most of all, he's got the rings :D

tbakergobuck

05-28-2009, 06:34 AM

To all you Lebron haters. lol Didn't it take MJ 6 years to win a Championship?? So how long has Lebron been in the NBA?? 5 years people. Lebron will have a few rings before he's done, he's only 24 freaking years old. I just hope he wins a Championship in Cleveland. The Lakers, Denver, Orlando all have more then a few players that are stars. The Cavs don't really have another star other the Lebron. When they get another star player they should be great.

88jr

05-28-2009, 07:47 AM

It's funny how everyone wrote off the Cavs and gave them no attention during the regular season. Now that they're struggling a bit and not playing near to their potential, people want to tear them apart. Just wait, if it's not this year, they'll make a few minor adjustments and kick some more ***** next year!

w7excursion

05-28-2009, 08:10 AM

LA was good last night. To all the cavy lovers, there may never be any rings. But Ive said that before. We will have to wait and see.

GrayKode

05-28-2009, 08:26 AM

I read this on espn and made me laugh:

I Think he said what alot of people were afraid to say.Because if Lebron doesnt make it to the finals as predicted ,it will definitely deplete some of his hype that he has now

MsRandall

05-28-2009, 08:55 AM

As much as I love KOBE and the LAKERS. I cant say I dont love LEBRON too, he is a young man who is doing his thing in the NBA. And he has handled his success off the court like his nickname KING JAMES- In an era of pro stars having major legal issues off the courts. Did he deserve the MVP...yes. He has played well and although his team might not make it to finals doesnt erase what he has done up now. I wanted to see LEBRON and KOBE go at in the finals....LEBRON still has my second second pick if I was creating a dream team of active players, KOBE would be my first pick because he is the man and he proves it when he goes hard EVERY DAY win or lose.

I still dont count Cavs all the way out....HOWEVER THE FAT LADY IS IN THE BUILDING PRACTICING TO SING!!!

tbakergobuck

05-28-2009, 09:28 AM

LA was good last night. To all the cavy lovers, there may never be any rings. But Ive said that before. We will have to wait and see.As much as we talk I don't know your team. I know u don't like the Lakers though. lol

fakeguy

05-28-2009, 10:53 AM

most of all, he's got the rings :D

True but I do believe those are Shaqs rings.

I Think he said what alot of people were afraid to say.Because if Lebron doesnt make it to the finals as predicted ,it will definitely deplete some of his hype that he has now

I don't think his hype will ever go away. Like TB said he's ONLY 24. Most players don't really develop their game until around 28 and that makes him scary. I do however think those Kobe/Lebron commercials were a little too much/premature...

w7excursion

05-28-2009, 12:15 PM

As much as we talk I don't know your team. I know u don't like the Lakers though. lol
Man we talked about this before(texting). Too many beers I guess lol. My favorite player was at the game last night.

tbakergobuck

05-28-2009, 01:28 PM

I remember talking about it but yea I was drunk and i cant remember **** from last week. lol who was at last nights game?

xStriderx

05-28-2009, 02:12 PM

True but I do believe those are Shaqs rings.

I don't think his hype will ever go away. Like TB said he's ONLY 24. Most players don't really develop their game until around 28 and that makes him scary. I do however think those Kobe/Lebron commercials were a little too much/premature...

Shaq's rings? What are you talking about?

Those aren't shaq's rings? It was combo situation. Each could not have done it without the otehr person. BUT, if you were going to go purely by numbers the argument could be made that they are actually Kobe's since he had more of an impact on the team stats wise then Shaq.

xStriderx

05-28-2009, 02:15 PM

^Oh, and don't forget Kobe hit several game winning shots that pushed the Lakers on in the playoffs which if he didn't hit they would have been eliminated. Not just one year but every year he hit one or two.

fakeguy

05-28-2009, 02:29 PM

w7excursion

05-28-2009, 03:01 PM

Shaq's rings? What are you talking about?

Those aren't shaq's rings? It was combo situation. Each could not have done it without the otehr person. BUT, if you were going to go purely by numbers the argument could be made that they are actually Kobe's since he had more of an impact on the team stats wise then Shaq.

I think thats because everyone used the hack-a-shaq strategy. So kobe and the rest of the team had more opportunities to score and get their hands on the ball.

bball1011

05-28-2009, 03:38 PM

True but I do believe those are Shaqs rings.
Shaq's rings??:haha: so I guess Pippen can take sole credit for all those Bulls rings too? lol

fakeguy

05-28-2009, 03:52 PM

Shaq's rings??:haha: so I guess Pippen can take sole credit for all those Bulls rings too? lol

Nice try but in those LA championships Kobe was Pippen. And in the ones since...oh wait. Nevermind. :cool:

w7excursion

05-28-2009, 04:25 PM

lol

bball1011

05-28-2009, 04:27 PM

Nice try but in those LA championships Kobe was Pippen. And in the ones since...oh wait. Nevermind. :cool:
In both situations, neither Shaq without Kobe or Jordan without Pippen would have rings if they didn't have them. So you can't make that argument. I won't argue that Jordan is the best of all time and that Shaq was freakishly unstoppable, but Kobe did have a lot of clutch shots and plays made during the Lakers championship years which without those, I doubt Lakers would have won 3 in a row.

There haven't been any titles true, until...oh yea there will be one this year just keep watching :D

xStriderx

05-28-2009, 05:51 PM

Good points but how many does each have after they split up?

Shaq has 1 more because he was paired up with another great shooting guard. While Kobe was stuck with Kwame, Smush and Luke Walton for three years. Shaq has never won a Championship by himself yet alone get into the playoffs by himself. He has always needed some kind of dominant shooting guard around him. Penny --> Kobe --> Wade

xStriderx

05-28-2009, 05:57 PM

I think thats because everyone used the hack-a-shaq strategy. So kobe and the rest of the team had more opportunities to score and get their hands on the ball.

Hack-a-Shaq had no bearing on Kobe's performance off the ball. Hack-a-Shaq was to prevent Shaq from scoring late into the 4th quarter to stop the clock and send Shaq to the line, that's it. A side effect of that was not an increase of assists or points to another player, in this case Kobe. It was meant to remove Shaq from the floor so the opposing team can go back to single coverage instead of having to send a double down to Shaq and then freeing up one Laker player to shoot.

You've got it backwards.

bball1011

05-28-2009, 06:21 PM

Shaq has 1 more because he was paired up with another great shooting guard. While Kobe was stuck with Kwame, Smush and Luke Walton for three years. Shaq has never won a Championship by himself yet alone get into the playoffs by himself. He has always needed some kind of dominant shooting guard around him. Penny --> Kobe --> Wade
^ Exactly. That 06 Heat team was also stacked with talent: Wade, Posey, Kapono, Haslem, Mourning, JWilliams, Payton, etc...and Shaq hardly even played in the 06 Finals, so he really didn't have that much of an impact to why he has 1 more ring than Kobe.

tbakergobuck

05-28-2009, 06:52 PM

I just don't understand how xStriderx & bball1011 have two teams. lol

GrayKode

05-28-2009, 06:58 PM

I just don't understand how xStriderx & bball1011 have two teams. lol

LOL..guess they cant just choose one?. i dont have two teams, but i have a backup teams, say if orlando didnt make it to the playoffs and miami did, then i would be rooting for the next florida team,which is miami.:cool:

Oh yea. Almost Game Time. its Win or Got to bed crying for the Cavs tonight.

for the magics its just stay in the game till the 4th and blow them away with 3pointers from the parameter:hee:

GO MAGICS !!!!!!!:music:

xStriderx

05-28-2009, 07:11 PM

I just don't understand how xStriderx & bball1011 have two teams. lol

Are you talknig about my other favorite team Portland! Yah, I have two teams and I'm damn proud of it!

Anyways, I'm still hoping Cav's can pull out some kind of upset. Hopefully Lebron takes a page from the book of Kobe and gets his teammates involved. I still want to see Cav's vs Lakers in the playoffs. Right now I'm pretty confident Stern is ripping out his hair wondering WTH is going on with his dream matchup this year.

xStriderx

05-28-2009, 07:19 PM

LOL..guess they cant just choose one?. i dont have two teams, but i have a backup teams, say if orlando didnt make it to the playoffs and miami did, then i would be rooting for the next florida team,which is miami.:cool:

Oh yea. Almost Game Time. its Win or Got to bed crying for the Cavs tonight.

for the magics its just stay in the game till the 4th and blow them away with 3pointers from the parameter:hee:

GO MAGICS !!!!!!!:music:

Not if Mike Brown can actually coach!

Geezus, I was so mad when he recieved Coach of the year. I seriously thought there were better coaches more derserving. For one, Nate McMillin, he did a lot this year with a lot less talent. He actually COACHED! Mike Brown, when things are going sour just says, "everyone continue to play defense and on offense just give it to LBJ!" Obviously, that strategy isn't working and we're quickly finding out that Mike Brown can't matchup players worth issh! Seriously, Lebron on Alston!?!?! ***! Put him on Hedo or Rashard and take away one of their weapons. ugh! Hopefully he makes some kind of adjustment worthy of being Coach of the Year today.

::rant over:::

w7excursion

05-28-2009, 08:24 PM

Hack-a-Shaq had no bearing on Kobe's performance off the ball. Hack-a-Shaq was to prevent Shaq from scoring late into the 4th quarter to stop the clock and send Shaq to the line, that's it. A side effect of that was not an increase of assists or points to another player, in this case Kobe. It was meant to remove Shaq from the floor so the opposing team can go back to single coverage instead of having to send a double down to Shaq and then freeing up one Laker player to shoot.

You've got it backwards.

It wasnt only for the fourth quarter. And you proved my point:TO FREE UP ANOTHER PLAYER WHICH WAS KOBE A LOT OF THE TIME. The double team is a no brainer. Nobody was willing to give up the easy dunk for two. I have it forwards. On any team, one person cant do it all. I could easy say that shaq made kobe better, look at his stats. But that would be an opinion and everyone is entitled to one. goodie goodie

xStriderx

05-28-2009, 08:49 PM

I think thats because everyone used the hack-a-shaq strategy. So kobe and the rest of the team had more opportunities to score and get their hands on the ball.

It wasnt only for the fourth quarter. And you proved my point:TO FREE UP ANOTHER PLAYER WHICH WAS KOBE A LOT OF THE TIME. The double team is a no brainer. Nobody was willing to give up the easy dunk for two. I have it forwards. On any team, one person cant do it all. I could easy say that shaq made kobe better, look at his stats. But that would be an opinion and everyone is entitled to one. goodie goodie

Hack a Shaq was rarely used in any other part of the game other then the FOURTH QUARTER. It was a desperation move created by Don Nelson to stop the clock. Hack a Shaq in NO WAY created open shots for other players because it sent Shaq straight to the line where he would miss free throws and the opposing team would get the ball back. Again, in no way did it create open shots. Eventually after a team would slowly creep back into the game Phil would be forced to take Shaq out creating a level playing field on defense. Now the defense no longer had to crash on Shaq but every man could play straight up D making it HARDER for people like Kobe and team to get shots.

xStriderx

05-28-2009, 08:52 PM

From another source

The birth of Hack-a-Shaq

[edit] Nelson's innovation

Although there are a number of game situations in which it may make sense for a defense to commit an isolated intentional foul, from its inception, the strategy of intentional fouling repeatedly, on each and every possession by the opposition, was used only as a desperation measure. It was thought to make sense only when time was so short in the game, that a team trailing in the game, when they were on defense, had to make stopping the clock an even greater priority than stopping the other team from scoring. The strategy was not thought to make sense at most other times because, as mentioned above, allowing a team to shoot free throws typically will generate more points for them over time than does playing a standard defense.

w7excursion

05-28-2009, 09:21 PM

I guess you wont ever get the point.

jaytv

05-28-2009, 09:53 PM

I guess you wont ever get the point.

No, he just negated yours.

xStriderx

05-28-2009, 10:10 PM

No, he just negated yours.

Thank you! I'm glad you see it.

Would anyone else please chime in.

GrayKode

05-28-2009, 10:22 PM

Good Game Cavs, they got this game tonight. we will see them in Orlando,Saturday

xStriderx

05-28-2009, 10:23 PM

^hopefully they can pull off another one in Orlando.

bball1011

05-29-2009, 12:39 AM

Thank you! I'm glad you see it.

Would anyone else please chime in.
When Shaq was with the Lakers, he would miss the free throws when teams would use the "Hack-a-Shaq", and Phil would have to take him out. This put more pressure on the team and this is when Kobe would excel and carry the team. More pressure was on Kobe to sustain the team's lead and close out games. So, Kobe deserves just as much credit as Shaq for those rings.

We saw the "Hack-a-Shaq" here in Phoenix too by Pop in last year's playoffs. He was scared of the Suns offense and settled for fouling Shaq when the Spurs would be down and because he knew Shaq was a poor free throw shooter, the Suns would not score on the Spurs. D'Antoni would leave Shaq in because he was making at least 1 of 2 free throws and could live with that since Shaq was needed on D.

Good find on the rediculous "hack a shaq" :tu:

bball1011

05-29-2009, 12:44 AM

Good Game Cavs, they got this game tonight. we will see them in Orlando,Saturday
It is about Lebron started posting up. I still think he need to defend Hedo all the time, I guess we'll see in next game. I bet ORL is worried now that CLE is finally getting the idea and making the adjustments. Should be an awesome game. Go Cavs!!

fakeguy

05-29-2009, 12:51 AM

Hack a Shaq was rarely used in any other part of the game other then the FOURTH QUARTER. It was a desperation move created by Don Nelson to stop the clock. Hack a Shaq in NO WAY created open shots for other players because it sent Shaq straight to the line where he would miss free throws and the opposing team would get the ball back. Again, in no way did it create open shots. Eventually after a team would slowly creep back into the game Phil would be forced to take Shaq out creating a level playing field on defense. Now the defense no longer had to crash on Shaq but every man could play straight up D making it HARDER for people like Kobe and team to get shots.

From another source

When Shaq was with the Lakers, he would miss the free throws when teams would use the "Hack-a-Shaq", and Phil would have to take him out. This put more pressure on the team and this is when Kobe would excel and carry the team. More pressure was on Kobe to sustain the team's lead and close out games. So, Kobe deserves just as much credit as Shaq for those rings.

We saw the "Hack-a-Shaq" here in Phoenix too by Pop in last year's playoffs. He was scared of the Suns offense and settled for fouling Shaq when the Spurs would be down and because he knew Shaq was a poor free throw shooter, the Suns would not score on the Spurs. D'Antoni would leave Shaq in because he was making at least 1 of 2 free throws and could live with that since Shaq was needed on D.

Good find on the rediculous "hack a shaq" :tu:

Bottom line, Kobe needed Shaq more than people think. I still say he is a selfish person who just is acting nice to try and fix his legacy. Now let's move on...:cool:

Cavs pulled one out today but I still think they will lose in Orlando. Go Nuggets...:fingers:

xStriderx

05-29-2009, 01:17 AM

When Shaq was with the Lakers, he would miss the free throws when teams would use the "Hack-a-Shaq", and Phil would have to take him out. This put more pressure on the team and this is when Kobe would excel and carry the team. More pressure was on Kobe to sustain the team's lead and close out games. So, Kobe deserves just as much credit as Shaq for those rings.

We saw the "Hack-a-Shaq" here in Phoenix too by Pop in last year's playoffs. He was scared of the Suns offense and settled for fouling Shaq when the Spurs would be down and because he knew Shaq was a poor free throw shooter, the Suns would not score on the Spurs. D'Antoni would leave Shaq in because he was making at least 1 of 2 free throws and could live with that since Shaq was needed on D.

Good find on the rediculous "hack a shaq" :tu:

thanks!

I'm glad you understand the mechanics of the Hack a Shaq and the pressure that was put on other players once he was removed because of it. For a second there I thought I was taking crazy pills.

rsbas

05-29-2009, 08:32 AM

Good game Cavs!

tbakergobuck

05-29-2009, 08:59 AM

Nice to see the Cavs finally play a good game vs Orlando but the Cavs need to stop blowing 20+ point leads. LeBron James recorded his fourth career playoff triple-double on Thursday, tying him with Tim Duncan for second-most such games among active players. The Mavs' Jason Kidd heads the list with 11.

ahfrederick

05-29-2009, 11:33 AM

Well if we learn one thing from this year’s conference finals is that NOTHING is set in stone. Just because two teams have been "slotted" for the NBA Finals, doesn't mean it's going to happen. And being a Lakers fan I can really appreciate every game that has been played thus far (most have been nail biters). I will NOT take anything away from the Nuggets, as they have proven that they ARE the team to beat. And the same goes for the Magics! I would have to say that this year’s playoffs have been the most intriguing since the 80's. It's pretty much come down to a coin flip folks and any one of these four teams deserves to win the NBA Championship. So buckle up your seat belt kiddies, cuz this is going to be a VERY bumpy ride! :D

GrayKode

05-29-2009, 09:17 PM

I Think the lakers got this game tonight. they seem like they want it more then the Nuggets. So now we know its going to be the Lakers VS Magics:D

fakeguy

05-29-2009, 10:29 PM

Oh man I just turned on the game, what the hell happened to Denver???

MsRandall

05-29-2009, 10:38 PM

LAKERS IN SIX......I predicted it!!!!!!!!

xStriderx

05-29-2009, 10:49 PM

Oh man I just turned on the game, what the hell happened to Denver???

I'll tell you what happened. Lakers executed on offense and Denver had no answer, as simple as that.

bball1011

05-30-2009, 12:00 AM

LAKERS IN SIX......I predicted it!!!!!!!!
MsRandall, you are a psychic, please predict in how many games LAL will win in the Finals :D

bball1011

05-30-2009, 12:07 AM

I'll tell you what happened. Lakers executed on offense and Denver had no answer, as simple as that.
We are on a roll now!! It started in game 5 and no one is stopping LAL. The triangle offense is in full effect, Odom is back to normal, Pau is getting the ball down low like he wants it, Kobe is being Kobe stopping runs with clutch shots, and LAL fans are ready to celebrate with another ring :music: Go Lakers!!!

jaytv

05-30-2009, 12:38 AM

LAKERS IN SIX......I predicted it!!!!!!!!

You had that one so pegged! Great pull!

I think George Karl was right, in that the Nuggets just made the Lakers the complete team they should have been throughout the playoffs.

I don't think they're going to lose much anymore...

tbakergobuck

05-30-2009, 08:00 AM

The winner of the EAST shouldn't even go to the Finals because the Lakers are just to damn good. :rolleyes:

MsRandall

05-30-2009, 11:04 AM

Damn if only I could predict those lotto numbers......

I predicted in an old thread about 20 games in the season that Lakers would will be NBA champions. I think my buddy tbaker said he thought I was moving tooo fast...the season is long, etc.

If the LAKERS play like they are capable of playing they will make my final prediction come true. Oh it was sooo sexy the way they played yesterday....I was glued to the tv.

tbakergobuck

05-30-2009, 12:28 PM

DJRider

05-30-2009, 01:04 PM

Tbay, I heard they are going to cancel the finals and just declare the Lakers the official champions. :lol:

tbakergobuck

05-30-2009, 01:09 PM

^ Yep oh well there's always next year. :rolleyes: I thought you would be mad at my Yankee reply. lol

xStriderx

05-30-2009, 01:38 PM

At this point they might as well cancel the Finals and give it to the Lakers. I mean, there is no other team in the NBA that can beat them at this point.

I pray that Lebron can pull off another miracle today.

GrayKode

05-30-2009, 04:13 PM

Tonights a Big game for the Magics, i hope we send cleavland packing tonight for good. i really dont want to see a game 7 in CLE. we need to come out the door guns busting:bang::bang:, because CLE will be.:(

DJRider

05-30-2009, 05:32 PM

^ Yep oh well there's always next year. :rolleyes: I thought you would be mad at my Yankee reply. lol

I'm used to people hating the Yankees, lol

MsRandall

05-30-2009, 08:01 PM

Laker fans are just like Yankee fans they predict a Championship every year no matter what. :lol: What happens if the Lakers get spanked in the Finals like they did last year?? I can't wait to see Kobe screaming at his players when they screw up. :hee:

HAHA I am no bandwagon fan I love the lakers win or lose....Last year when they lost to Boston I was the first to say the Lakers played like chicken do-do

You already giving up on your Cavs I am ashamed of you....:laughing:

tbakergobuck

05-30-2009, 08:51 PM

HAHA I am no bandwagon fan I love the lakers win or lose....Last year when they lost to Boston I was the first to say the Lakers played like chicken do-do

You already giving up on your Cavs I am ashamed of you....:laughing:I never said you were a bandwagon fan. I had a sarcastic smiley after what I said. I'll never give up on Lebron/Cavs. However it's not looking good for my Cavs right now down by 18 at halftime. They can come back but they can't let Orlando get easy points/wide open 3's like they have been doing.

GrayKode

05-30-2009, 10:09 PM

Woooohooooooooooooooooo Go Magics Baby!!!!!!

GrayKode

05-30-2009, 10:29 PM

Magics VS Lakers

Magics in 6:D

MsRandall

05-30-2009, 10:37 PM

Magics VS Lakers

Magics in 6:D

You got the number right but wrong team!!!! Lakers should all go to the hoop in the first and get Superman in foul trouble...

tbakergobuck

05-30-2009, 10:38 PM

GrayKode

05-30-2009, 10:52 PM

Magic played good but the Cavs missed open shots/free throws again. I guess Van Gundy's crying about Lebron getting fouls in the paint paid off. lol Oh well I guess it probably wouldn't have mattered anyway but Howard/Magic got the calls tonight. I just don't understand how the officials can call a touch foul outside the 3-point line but when a harder foul near the rim is made there's no call. :scratch: I guess I will root for Orlando now.

Lebron is a good player, but tonight you could see that he was finally wearing out. he's carried his team on his back all season, tonight his team mates were there alittle. but not enough support from the bench. I wonder if Lebron will stay with cle or switch to a team with a bigger market.

GrayKode

05-30-2009, 10:53 PM

You got the number right but wrong team!!!! Lakers should all go to the hoop in the first and get Superman in foul trouble...

LOL...we beat the lakers 2-0 , twice this season.. we should have no problem doing it again. can you guys really stop the Man of steel? 40 points tonight, talk about Domination:hee:

I still say Magics in 6. , in 5 if kobe ball hogs.

tbakergobuck

05-30-2009, 11:06 PM

GrayKode

05-30-2009, 11:24 PM

LeBron is a great player at the age of 24. His teammates made shots during the season but missed them in the Orlando series. I disagree about Lebron carrying his team all year long but he did in this last series. Everyone thinks Lebron is leaving Cleveland but who knows what he's going to do. Maybe the Chinese investors might keep Lebron in Cleveland. :fingers:

There is word going about how Lebron showed true unsportsmanlike conduct tonight, he didn't even want to shake the players hands at the end of the game, while his teammates did, he even bypassed the press and went straight to the bus. is that the way a true leader should be acting? i can understand the frustration, but when boston lost, paul pierce showed up and gave an interview, even the 76ers, and even mo Williams showed up. but no Lebron to be found.

MsRandall

05-31-2009, 12:01 AM

LOL...we beat the lakers 2-0 , twice this season.. we should have no problem doing it again. can you guys really stop the Man of steel? 40 points tonight, talk about Domination:hee:

I still say Magics in 6. , in 5 if kobe ball hogs.

In the regular season yes you won, but if the regular season was a direct coalition of how the FINALS will play out the Cavs, the team with the best record in the season would be playing the Lakers and your team would be in The Keys Fly Fishing...:tu:

I say it again the LA Lakers will hand Mr Howard and company some Kryptonite by game 6 and will hold the NBA championship this year!!!!:laughing:

Damn tbaker you didnt waste no time changing your avatar...

w7excursion

05-31-2009, 12:04 AM

Who is ready for the Magic show? :tu:

bball1011

05-31-2009, 12:12 AM

bball1011

05-31-2009, 12:14 AM

Who is ready for the Magic show? :tu:
*raises hand* I'm ready for Kobe's magic ! :D

jaytv

05-31-2009, 01:13 AM

Gonna be a great Series. Will be close in game one, Lakers will win but not by much. Lakers will take control in game two. Orlando will win the first game back home, and the Lakers will respond with a hard fought win in the 4th game. Orlando will force a game 6 on a last minute shot by Hedo, and then the Lakers will dominate in the close-out game back in Staples, just like they did to Denver. Lakers will be the champs on June 16th.

Lakers in six, unless they play every game like game six at Denver, then Lakers with the sweep!

PS...Sorry tbaker, you're a good egg, and I know you love your Cavs and it hurts right now. I was there last year and every year since 1988 till last year with my beloved Dodgers.

The sad part is, I think that was really the Cavs last, best shot, and LeBron is going somewhere else in 2010. God, I hope it's not the Celtics!

tbakergobuck

05-31-2009, 07:03 AM

There is word going about how Lebron showed true unsportsmanlike conduct tonight, he didn't even want to shake the players hands at the end of the game, while his teammates did, he even bypassed the press and went straight to the bus. is that the way a true leader should be acting? i can understand the frustration, but when boston lost, paul pierce showed up and gave an interview, even the 76ers, and even mo Williams showed up. but no Lebron to be found.Maybe he was sick?? Maybe he was pissed off getting no calls and didn't want to cry about the officiating like Van Gundy, so he just didn't say anything. Who knows but he should have done one or the other.
Damn tbaker you didnt waste no time changing your avatar...The Cavs season is over but come start of next season it will be back up. Good luck in the Finals. The Lakers have some good shooters but if Orlando shoots as good as they did in the Cavs series I don't see LA winning.

GrayKode

05-31-2009, 09:49 AM

Gosh durnit, I wanted to see a CLE/LAL series. I was hoping to see Kobe open up a can on Queen James. Oh well, maybe we will when Lebron is with the Knickerbockers. As for the Finals, LAL will sweep ORL...I can already hear the music "I love L.A., We love it" lol

:haha:. The Unbelievers....shouldnt we all believe in magic?:hee:.

i Admit lakers have a possibility of winning, to me its 50/50

lakers lineup and orlando's lineup match up pretty nicely unlike cle. so this series could go either way, but if we come out the gates with guns:bang:, then theirs no way LA can stop us. because we will shoot our 3's no matter what.:tu:

88jr

05-31-2009, 10:17 AM

I've came to peace with the fact that the best team does not always win...that's sports. With that said, I wish the Magic the best...I hope they shove their sweaty socks down the throats of the Lakers! I would love to watch the finals but if Kobe is going to be on the screen for just a second, I might vomit...so I won't be watching this year...now let's see, what time does the NASCAR race start...

w7excursion

05-31-2009, 12:12 PM

And I thought I hated the lakers. Now thats hate. lol. hate-hate-hate

tbakergobuck

05-31-2009, 12:14 PM

There were a few games that could have gone either way but when the Cavs needed one stop they couldnt do it not to mention they didnt shoot good. Orlando is a more balanced team then the Cavs. The Cavs could be totally different team next year. I like Big Z but man he's so slow.

MsRandall

05-31-2009, 11:46 PM

I love the Laker Haters...they make me love the Lakers even more...lol

bball1011

06-01-2009, 12:08 AM

:haha:. The Unbelievers....shouldnt we all believe in magic?:hee:.

i Admit lakers have a possibility of winning, to me its 50/50

lakers lineup and orlando's lineup match up pretty nicely unlike cle. so this series could go either way, but if we come out the gates with guns:bang:, then theirs no way LA can stop us. because we will shoot our 3's no matter what.:tu:
Lol, It was huge for ORL beating the young Sixers in 6 games and it was insane beating the KG-less Celtics in 7 games in BOS' own house and omg! it was amazingly magicaly magical beating Queen James and the sleeping Cavs!!...but all fairy tales gotta come to an end because there is no magic aloud in the Staples Center only the Black Mamba and the 09 champion Lakers. :(
"I love L.A, We love it" :music:

xStriderx

06-01-2009, 12:29 AM

xStriderx

06-01-2009, 12:38 AM

Maybe he was sick?? Maybe he was pissed off getting no calls and didn't want to cry about the officiating like Van Gundy, so he just didn't say anything. Who knows but he should have done one or the other.
The Cavs season is over but come start of next season it will be back up. Good luck in the Finals. The Lakers have some good shooters but if Orlando shoots as good as they did in the Cavs series I don't see LA winning.

No, he wasn't sick. Let's not make excuses for him. If ANY OTHER superstar had done what he did we would be calling them a bad sport. Hell, if Kobe did that people would be saying it's just another example of his showing no class, etc. The man was fraustrated and made. I completely understand that but he should know better.

bball1011

06-01-2009, 12:52 AM

No, he wasn't sick. Let's not make excuses for him. If ANY OTHER superstar had done what he did we would be calling them a bad sport. Hell, if Kobe did that people would be saying it's just another example of his showing no class, etc. The man was fraustrated and made. I completely understand that but he should know better.
It's Queen James, who everyone loves and can get away with anything, what do you expect? :rolleyes:

tbakergobuck

06-01-2009, 02:07 AM

fakeguy

06-01-2009, 10:23 AM

xStriderx

06-01-2009, 12:39 PM

xStriderx

06-01-2009, 12:44 PM

LeBron dominated 5 out of the 6 Orlando games by by himself. You could cleary tell he was not the same player in game 6. Sometimes when your so tired you don't make the smartest decesions. You guys act like he cheated on his wife and raped some high school chick, then tried to buy her back with a big fat ring.

Obviously he should have taken lesson from the book of Kobe. If anything Lebron didn't do his team justice by playing the way he did. An espn article I read earlier reffered to him as having an old disease called, "Kobe Syndrome." Where you have to score all the points and create all the plays because you don't trust your teammates to do anything. The ball was stuck in his hand way to much and after awhile all the players just became spectators. He should have learned that doesn't win championships. It's great for your individual stats and all but nothing more. Reggie Miller during the post game wrap up after the night Kobe played decoy actually commented that he was surprised Lebron didn't follow suite after that peformance and get his team involved in the same manner.

w7excursion

06-01-2009, 01:24 PM

lol

fakeguy

06-01-2009, 01:24 PM

^Jordan wasn't a saint either if you remember correctly.

Anyways, I love the haters. The hate is actually what us Lakers' fans thrive on. We notice you guys start to hate the most and resort to ad hominems whenever Kobe starts to succeed.

Gambling vs Rape..:thought:

It is hate on him but mostly because everyone in L.A. is willing to put up a shrine to him and forget. The rest of the world still sees him for what he was/still is. If he wasn't in your city it would be different. I have no problem seeing others succeed but not that jerk.

w7excursion

06-01-2009, 01:30 PM

oh well. Lets see them settle it on the court. Thats what its for. Come on Thursday!!!

tbakergobuck

06-01-2009, 02:17 PM

Obviously he should have taken lesson from the book of Kobe. If anything Lebron didn't do his team justice by playing the way he did. An espn article I read earlier reffered to him as having an old disease called, "Kobe Syndrome." Where you have to score all the points and create all the plays because you don't trust your teammates to do anything. The ball was stuck in his hand way to much and after awhile all the players just became spectators. He should have learned that doesn't win championships. It's great for your individual stats and all but nothing more. Reggie Miller during the post game wrap up after the night Kobe played decoy actually commented that he was surprised Lebron didn't follow suite after that peformance and get his team involved in the same manner.I know your always right but here's my reply anyway. :lol: The only game the Cavs wern't in vs Orlando was game 6 when Lebron didn't dominate like he did in the previous 5 games. Lebrons teammates missed open shots they hit all year long. At times Lebron had to try and do it himself since no one else stepped up. Denver, Lakers and Boston all have two or three superstars. The Cavs only have one superstar but hopefully next season they'll have a few. :fingers:

w7excursion

06-01-2009, 02:37 PM

someone stealing a smoochie? ^^

fakeguy

06-01-2009, 04:38 PM

Going back to the playoffs even though it kills me I think the Lakers will win. If Van Gundy is whining about the foul calls on Howard, wait till Kobe gets in the lane. Who does he think is gonna get those calls? Lakers will probably win it :td:

xStriderx

06-01-2009, 05:00 PM

I know your always right but here's my reply anyway. :lol: The only game the Cavs wern't in vs Orlando was game 6 when Lebron didn't dominate like he did in the previous 5 games. Lebrons teammates missed open shots they hit all year long. At times Lebron had to try and do it himself since no one else stepped up. Denver, Lakers and Boston all have two or three superstars. The Cavs only have one superstar but hopefully next season they'll have a few. :fingers:

I do agree with you to an extent. It wasn't like they went ice cold. The simplest explanation of why they missed those routine shots was due to Orlando's hustle, height and length.

You are right about the fact the others have multiple stars and Cav's only have role players but people forget that those role players got them to the Eastern Conference finals, the best record in the NBA and a terrific home record we haven't seen in years. During the season people were touting how great the team was and how Mo Williams was the missing piece and how everyone plays team ball. Now they lose and Cav's fans now want to turn the coversation around and say it was because he doen't have another allstar to help him. You guys can't have it both ways.

w7excursion

06-01-2009, 05:12 PM

Why not? Isnt it the truth?

xStriderx

06-01-2009, 05:22 PM

edit wrong thread

tbakergobuck

06-01-2009, 05:27 PM

I do agree with you to an extent. It wasn't like they went ice cold. The simplest explanation of why they missed those routine shots was due to Orlando's hustle, height and length.

You are right about the fact the others have multiple stars and Cav's only have role players but people forget that those role players got them to the Eastern Conference finals, the best record in the NBA and a terrific home record we haven't seen in years. During the season people were touting how great the team was and how Mo Williams was the missing piece and how everyone plays team ball. Now they lose and Cav's fans now want to turn the coversation around and say it was because he doen't have another allstar to help him. You guys can't have it both ways.I thought the week off after the Pistons and Hawks series would help the Cavs but after seeing the Cavs miss wide open shots against Orlando I think it hurt them. Mo Willams was a great addition but still that's only 2 superstars if you call him that plus it was his first playoffs. The Cavs are probably thinking that they should have made that trade for a center considering how bad Ilgauskas and big ben played against Orlando. It will be interesting to see who the Cavs pick up next season.

xStriderx

06-01-2009, 05:32 PM

^What you guys need is another floor general who doesn't bend easily to Lebron's will. Someone who can direct things without the ball having to be in his hand 24/7. A stability factor which we got when we acquired Derek Fisher again.That and an obvious center like you mentioned.

bball1011

06-01-2009, 07:29 PM

I think Lebron needs to just learn the game more. He has the potential to be right up there with MJ and better coaching for James would do it. All the greats have had good coaching and I don't see CLE winning with this year's "coach of the year".

tbakergobuck

06-01-2009, 07:55 PM

No more Cavs talk. I'm thinking the Magic will win in 6.

GrayKode

06-02-2009, 08:21 AM

No more Cavs talk. I'm thinking the Magic will win in 6.

I think the magic will in 5 Games, get one win on their home court and win all 3 on our court.:clap:

w7excursion

06-02-2009, 02:57 PM

SuperMagicMan

tbakergobuck

06-02-2009, 06:26 PM

^ Me!!!????

bball1011

06-02-2009, 07:17 PM

tbakergobuck

06-02-2009, 07:57 PM

After seeing Orlando have issues closing a few games against Boston I thought they would do the same against the Cavs but they didn't. I think it might come down to who shoots the 3 - pointer better. I know most LA fans think they will win the Championship but I think it will be a good series that could be decided by a few last second shots.

GrayKode

06-02-2009, 09:15 PM

Looks like Jameer Nelson might be playing in the Finals: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/basketball/magic/orl-bk-jameer-nelson-magic-lakers-060209,0,5375094.story
This should make the Finals a little more interesting. I guess I'll take back LAL in 4 and make it LAL in 5 :D

LOL..you have such a vivid imagination. quite humorous indeed:haha:

Lakers Meet your Better Half, ORLANDO MAGICS!!!!!

However, on a side note, why did they have to put the game so far in the week, the anticipation and waiting is very crucial.

xStriderx

06-02-2009, 09:32 PM

Looks like Jameer Nelson might be playing in the Finals: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/basketball/magic/orl-bk-jameer-nelson-magic-lakers-060209,0,5375094.story
This should make the Finals a little more interesting. I guess I'll take back LAL in 4 and make it LAL in 5 :D

Jameer Nelson coming back would probably do Orlando more harm then good. For one, there is a good chance he's not 100% and on top of that he's not in basketball shape.

tbakergobuck

06-02-2009, 09:45 PM

I think Orlando will be smart about it and only have Jameer Nelson play limited minutes so I doubt his conditioning will be a problem. Who knows if he will help since he hasn't played in awhile. I was surprised Anthony Johnson played pretty good against the Cavs.

88jr

06-02-2009, 10:27 PM

GrayKode

06-02-2009, 11:10 PM

I agree...they've got great chemistry right now, why mess that up. I say have him dressed and if you get up by quite a few, later in the series, give it a try. If I were him I'd want to play at least a few minutes so I did feel guilty taking a ring I didn't earn.

I Agree. they should let him play in the final minutes of each quarter, but dont give him priority over rafer or lue or the other pg, because the other pg's play hard throughout the playoffs and deserve some seniority.

bball1011

06-03-2009, 03:11 AM

LOL..you have such a vivid imagination. quite humorous indeed:haha:

Lakers Meet your Better Half, ORLANDO MAGICS!!!!!

However, on a side note, why did they have to put the game so far in the week, the anticipation and waiting is very crucial.
Its called reality dude lol ORL hasn't faced a team like LAL. LAL went through much better teams than ORL. LAL went through a solid defensive UTA team, tough defensive players in Battier and Artest on Kobe, and the high scoring Nuggets. I just don't see how ORL can win. 3 points is a low percentage shot and that will not win a title.

xStriderx

06-03-2009, 03:29 AM

^Couldn't agree more. Orlando and Orlando fans benefited from playing a team which matched up horribly with them. Everything Orlando did was embellished a tad bit because of it. The Lakers on the other hand strengthened a weakness they had going into the playoffs playing Denver which was toughness.

88jr

06-03-2009, 08:36 AM

Its called reality dude lol ORL hasn't faced a team like LAL. LAL went through much better teams than ORL. LAL went through a solid defensive UTA team, tough defensive players in Battier and Artest on Kobe, and the high scoring Nuggets. I just don't see how ORL can win. 3 points is a low percentage shot and that will not win a title.

It may be a low percentage shot but when you shoot it at 40-45% like they often do, that's better then many teams shoot from the field!

GrayKode

06-03-2009, 08:48 AM

Its called reality dude lol ORL hasn't faced a team like LAL. LAL went through much better teams than ORL. LAL went through a solid defensive UTA team, tough defensive players in Battier and Artest on Kobe, and the high scoring Nuggets. I just don't see how ORL can win. 3 points is a low percentage shot and that will not win a title.

LOL..whats reality is we beat the lakers TWICE!! this year:D. we know how to deal with them. i guess the only thing we can do now is see what happens tomorrow in LA:hee:

GrayKode

06-03-2009, 08:52 AM

The Lakers on the other hand strengthened a weakness they had going into the playoffs playing Denver which was toughness.

LOL..we shall see if they did. Gasol and Bynum still have some work to do and may not be able to handle a young and healthy Dwight Howard. fisher wont keep up with rafer. if the lakers really expect to beat us, they will need bynum and gasol to step up in the paint. because so far neither one hasn't been a dominated force in the paint that would steer away the opposing team from driving to the paint.

GrayKode

06-03-2009, 08:55 AM

It may be a low percentage shot but when you shoot it at 40-45% like they often do, that's better then many teams shoot from the field!

I Agree!!!!!. points are points, no matter what the shot is and ive seen 3point shots become the key difference between winning and losing throughout the playoffs. and plus Orlando is a pretty good 3point shooting team. live and die by the 3's:cool:

bball1011

06-03-2009, 05:00 PM

LOL..whats reality is we beat the lakers TWICE!! this year:D. we know how to deal with them. i guess the only thing we can do now is see what happens tomorrow in LA:hee:
ORL beat LAL on the 2nd game of the Lakers back to back games both times and both teams were a different team than they are now. I think LAL got better since then. They adjusted really well this last series and are in sync exactly when they need to be. I just hope ORL does make those 3's so the games are close. I can't wait!!

"I love L.A., We love it!" :music:

tbakergobuck

06-03-2009, 05:28 PM

If Orlando is making there 3's and playing good d on Kobe the games won't be close, Orlando will blow LA out. The Lakers sometimes have issues blowing big leads which Orlando can score a lot points quick. If the games are close then LA has the advantage with Kobe but Orlando is playing with a lot of confidence and they proved they can hit big shots against the Cavs. Bynum seems up and down and he better get back on d since Howard runs the court well. Boston played good d on Howard not allowing him to catch the ball close to the basket. Hopefully it's a good series which I think it will be. :fingers:

bball1011

06-03-2009, 06:52 PM

Lol LAL will not get blown out by ORL.

LAL will probably make Howard beat them straight up rather than double team him like CLE did so that there will at be some pressure for ORL to hit the 3.
There is just no comparison with CLE and LAL and just because ORL beat CLE the way they did, does not mean that's how ORL will play against LAL. Even though ORL hit 41% of their 3's, Howard dominated down low, and Lebron's team mates couldn't hit a shot in the series, it was still a close series and that alone will make things very hard for ORL against a hungry LAL team.

w7excursion

06-03-2009, 10:59 PM

yawn

fakeguy

06-03-2009, 11:45 PM

http://twitter.com/THE_REAL_SHAQ/status/2020721522

Shaq is a nicer guy than I am. I'd never forget him snitching on me. I guess he hates Van Gundy more. Oh well.

Orlando in 6.

w7excursion

06-04-2009, 03:27 PM

Cant wait for the game to start!!

http://i39.tinypic.com/2pr8lxu.jpg

fakeguy

06-04-2009, 03:57 PM

I have to work tonight... ****!

fakeguy

06-04-2009, 06:47 PM

Gonna have to try and find a place to watch it online. Any ideas?

Edit: Nevermind. Found a t.v.

bball1011

06-04-2009, 09:14 PM

Game's looking really good right now :D

fakeguy

06-04-2009, 09:42 PM

Where the **** is "Superman?"

bball1011

06-04-2009, 09:47 PM

C'mon Stern just crown LAL. This is gonna get embarrassing for ORL :D

fakeguy

06-04-2009, 09:52 PM

Lakers are showing why living and dying by the 3 is a not the best motto...

fakeguy

06-04-2009, 10:01 PM

Games over. Goodnight Orlando.

GrayKode

06-04-2009, 10:05 PM

LOL..yeah tonight i guess all the LA Lights got in our eyes. cause we are just missing key shots left to right, and these are shots we made throughout the series....Lakers 1 ORLANDO 0. there's always another game for us to tie it up. i guess game one made us get a feel and to know what to expect from the lakers. its not over LA. its just game one...lol.

GrayKode

06-04-2009, 10:06 PM

i dont know why they let jameer back in. wheres rafer or anthony....

fakeguy

06-04-2009, 10:07 PM

Sorry Gray but I think the Magic just got hot for the east conf playoffs. Now that theyre back to normal theyre getting spanked. Unless they get hot again I don't think they can last.

GrayKode

06-04-2009, 10:11 PM

Sorry Gray but I think the Magic just got hot for the east conf playoffs. Now that theyre back to normal theyre getting spanked. Unless they get hot again I don't think they can last.

LOL..we will bounce back.. we just making alot of poor plays and poor shots. and turnovers. Lakers got game 1, but it aint over yet. we beaten some of the best teams including boston who beat LA last year, so we can handle the lakers,. now we know what to expect from them in game 2 and on,we will be ready :tu:

fakeguy

06-04-2009, 10:16 PM

Boston this year was not the Boston of last year though. Magic exposed the Cavs now it's happening to them. Phil > Van Gundy. Don't get me wrong I want the Magic to win (badly) and I hope Im wrong.

bball1011

06-04-2009, 10:21 PM

LOL..we will bounce back.. we just making alot of poor plays and poor shots. and turnovers. Lakers got game 1, but it aint over yet. we beaten some of the best teams including boston who beat LA last year, so we can handle the lakers,. now we know what to expect from them in game 2 and on,we will be ready :tu:
:confused: I thought you were just on the magic dust but now I don't know what else you're on lol

GrayKode

06-04-2009, 10:26 PM

C'mon Stern just crown LAL. This is gonna get embarrassing for ORL :D

LOL. i admire your Loyalty to the Lakers. i hope you still feel the same way about LA after we win the series in 6.

GrayKode

06-04-2009, 10:31 PM

:confused: I thought you were just on the magic dust but now I don't know what else you're on lol

LOL@magic dust....cute..

but we've lost some game 1's in the playoffs, like when we lost the first game to the 76ers. we got game 2. you'ill see:tu:

GrayKode

06-04-2009, 10:32 PM

Boston this year was not the Boston of last year though. Magic exposed the Cavs now it's happening to them. Phil > Van Gundy. Don't get me wrong I want the Magic to win (badly) and I hope Im wrong.

LOL..lets not assume that yet. Van Gundy is a good coach.and were on the lakers home court..its a tough thing to beat a team on thier home court.

bball1011

06-04-2009, 10:34 PM

^ I don't know what to call that? Its either loyalty or just psycho crazy and I'm thinking its the second lol

bball1011

06-04-2009, 10:37 PM

LOL..lets not assume that yet. Van Gundy is a good coach.and were on the lakers home court..its a tough thing to beat a team on thier home court.
It's impossible to beat LAL in their home court in the Finals the way they are playing....so I don't know how you can win lol

xStriderx

06-04-2009, 10:43 PM

Sorry Gray but I think the Magic just got hot for the east conf playoffs. Now that theyre back to normal theyre getting spanked. Unless they get hot again I don't think they can last.

That's what I've been saying. They dominated in the East but that's because they benefited off horrible mismatches. Now they plan a team with a lot more length and they are going to see a lot of contested shots and even the shots that aren't contested they're going to see a 6'8+ person running at them unlike Cleveland. I really believe Orlando got over hyped.

bball1011

06-04-2009, 10:49 PM

How is ORL gonna win when they are playing against the best player who beat them by himself??? LAL will expose Howard's "loose" elbows when he turns to make a move. Pau exposed it and Howard got caught and after that Howard didn't go up as strong. Hedo was so confused tonight...oh wait that's how he always looks lol

xStriderx

06-04-2009, 10:51 PM

LOL@magic dust....cute..

but we've lost some game 1's in the playoffs, like when we lost the first game to the 76ers. we got game 2. you'ill see:tu:

Are you really comparing the 76ers to the Lakers???

bball1011

06-04-2009, 10:54 PM

That's what I've been saying. They dominated in the East but that's because they benefited off horrible mismatches. Now they plan a team with a lot more length and they are going to see a lot of contested shots and even the shots that aren't contested they're going to see a 6'8+ person running at them unlike Cleveland. I really believe Orlando got over hyped.
Do you think Mbenga should come in for a while and beat up Howard? He's scary lookin as heck lol

GrayKode

06-04-2009, 11:00 PM

It's impossible to beat LAL in their home court in the Finals the way they are playing....so I don't know how you can win lol

LOL..just like lebron, Kobe too shall wear out. we will get game 2:tu:. nothings impossible when you got Magic:fingers: on your side..lol

GrayKode

06-04-2009, 11:03 PM

Are you really comparing the 76ers to the Lakers???

Lakers are a basketball team are they not? they are not some sort of ALL-Star, Supreme team, they can be beaten like any team..lol so an comparison to the 76ers wasn't a comparison meant to point out the differences in the two teams skills, only to show Orlando has lost a game 1 before and have came back to win series.in addition, we've beaten them twice this season. sure you guys going to say the lakers are a different team than they were in the season, then i guess we can conclude Orlando is too.

bball1011

06-04-2009, 11:04 PM

LOL..just like lebron, Kobe too shall wear out. we will get game 2:tu:. nothings impossible when you got Magic:fingers: on your side..lol
Lol Queen James was already passing out after game 1?? Don't tell me Lee is gonna wear him out lol You double him and Kobe will hit the open man. The "closer" is on a league of his own :tu:

GrayKode

06-04-2009, 11:07 PM

Lol Queen James was already passing out after game 1?? Don't tell me Lee is gonna wear him out lol You double him and Kobe will hit the open man. The "closer" is on a league of his own :tu:

LOL..why do i get the feeling of deja vu? everyone thought King James was going to own us and take his team to the championship , we got rid of him, now kobe's in the picture and the same challenge occurs and you guys think we going to let kobe reign freely as he wants. no way. tonight was just testing the waters for the magic. we will bounce back surely:tu:

bball1011

06-04-2009, 11:08 PM

Lakers are a basketball team are they not? they are not some sort of ALL-Star, Supreme team, they can be beaten like any team..lol so an comparison to the 76ers wasn't a comparison meant to point out the differences in the two teams skills, only to show Orlando has lost a game 1 before and have came back to win series.in addition, we've beaten them twice this season. sure you guys going to say the lakers are a different team than they were in the season, then i guess we can conclude Orlando is too.
ORL is a different team. They are playing with a cold Nelson, while LAL is playing with a longer quicker team than in those 2 losses to ORL and are executing beautifully :D

GrayKode

06-04-2009, 11:09 PM

That's what I've been saying. They dominated in the East but that's because they benefited off horrible mismatches. Now they plan a team with a lot more length and they are going to see a lot of contested shots and even the shots that aren't contested they're going to see a 6'8+ person running at them unlike Cleveland. I really believe Orlando got over hyped.

LOL..dude LA,CLE, BOSTON ,ORLANDO all were over-hyped this playoff seasons, especially Cleavland. i don't think we got over-hyped, i think we got an long over due credit for what we've done in the east. we're still the eastern conference champs whether we win or lose the finals.

GrayKode

06-04-2009, 11:12 PM

ORL is a different team. They are playing with a cold Nelson, while LAL is playing with a longer quicker team than in those 2 losses to ORL and are executing beautifully :D

LOL. nelson wont be cold for long. i just hope you lakers fans aren't celebrating yet. because the series isnt over yet.

GrayKode

06-04-2009, 11:16 PM

^ I don't know what to call that? Its either loyalty or just psycho crazy and I'm thinking its the second lol

LOL..wow..i just seen this. its not the second. its Loyalty!!!!.im with my team win or lose. i wont never sell them out.:cup:

btw..whats up with shaq and kobe? are they cool again or what? i see shaq rooting kobe on and tiger woods rooting for the laker, traitors..lol:rolleyes:

xStriderx

06-04-2009, 11:17 PM

As it stands...

Disneyland:1, Disneyworld:0

SprintMamba

06-04-2009, 11:20 PM

Great game by LA and Kobe!! Orlando better come up with a good game plan for game 2

GrayKode

06-04-2009, 11:21 PM

As it stands...

Disneyland:1, Disneyworld:0

LOL..i forgot CA had a disneyland.

SprintMamba

06-04-2009, 11:25 PM

So wheres the Dwight puppet??

xStriderx

06-04-2009, 11:30 PM

^Why make one...the series will be over quickly.

MsRandall

06-05-2009, 12:26 AM

^Why make one...the series will be over quickly.

I spit my Coke out on my screen.....rofl:laughing:

jaytv

06-05-2009, 12:28 AM

LOL..i forgot CA had a disneyland.

We have the Disneyland. The Original. Like the Lakers.

You have DisneyWorld. The money grab afterthought. The pretender. Like the Magic.

xStriderx

06-05-2009, 02:23 AM

Saw this on another forum and had to post this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGDE_ABe7Ss&feature=player_embedded

fakeguy

06-05-2009, 11:04 AM

We have the Disneyland. The Original. Like the Lakers.

You have DisneyWorld. The money grab afterthought. The pretender. Like the Magic.

Um but the Lakers aren't originally from L.A. They're not close to being the originals...

Saw this on another forum and had to post this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGDE_ABe7Ss&feature=player_embedded

I saw this yesterday and its kinda ***. I don't care how much I like an athlete, I'd never write him a song. http://yoursmiles.org/ssmile/fun/s0203.gif

w7excursion

06-05-2009, 11:45 AM

So wheres the Dwight puppet??

SprintGuru4Eva is that you? :laughing:

xStriderx

06-05-2009, 02:22 PM

Um but the Lakers aren't originally from L.A. They're not close to being the originals...

I saw this yesterday and its kinda ***. I don't care how much I like an athlete, I'd never write him a song. http://yoursmiles.org/ssmile/fun/s0203.gif

Michael Jackson did it... Jay-Z did it... now Lil Wayne.

jaytv

06-05-2009, 05:32 PM

Um but the Lakers aren't originally from L.A. They're not close to being the originals...

They are the first Los Angeles NBA team. Original.

They are the first NBA/BAA Championship team. Original.

They are the most storied franchise outside the Celtics, and soon to be more storied. Original.

Fakeguy. Obtuse. Argumentative. NOT ORIGINAL.

bball1011

06-05-2009, 06:14 PM

^Don't forget the most hated team in the NBA too.
Everyone (haters) always criticises the best :tu:

SprintMamba

06-05-2009, 08:11 PM

too many days off between games 1 & 2

bball1011

06-06-2009, 03:00 AM

Yea I know, I guess they want a bigger audience since more people stay at home and watch tv on Sunday than on Saturday.

Matt

06-06-2009, 04:03 AM

<---peeks in

GrayKode

06-06-2009, 10:18 AM

I Agree, 2days is too much, if a team was hot, they can go cold in two days. i guess they milking the finals for every thing its worth.:tu:

GrayKode

06-06-2009, 10:19 AM

<---peeks in

LOL..So Matt what are your predictions for the Finals?

Lakers or Magics?

SprintMamba

06-06-2009, 09:30 PM

They are having the game on Sunday so the Lakers get to wear there Sunday Whites

GrayKode

06-07-2009, 04:57 PM

Game Night Tonight.who will win tonight, nobody knows:D.

xStriderx

06-07-2009, 05:12 PM

umm.. we all know except for you. Lakers by 10

GrayKode

06-07-2009, 05:21 PM

umm.. we all know except for you. Lakers by 10

LOL....are you sure about that?. want to put some SU$ on that prediction?:tu:

MsRandall

06-07-2009, 05:22 PM

Lakers baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

advancephlowa

06-07-2009, 05:33 PM

NBA Finals Game 2- Magic will win by 5pts....Go Orlando

bball1011

06-07-2009, 07:22 PM

LOL....are you sure about that?. want to put some SU$ on that prediction?:tu:
I'm glad nobody bet you. I hate to see you lose SU$ :D

GrayKode

06-07-2009, 07:49 PM

I'm glad nobody bet you. I hate to see you lose SU$ :D

LOL..awww..thanks for the concern, but that would of been a good "profitable" wager. we can always bet on who will win game 3 in Orlando:Popcorn2:

w7excursion

06-07-2009, 08:56 PM

Close game but good. :clap:

tbakergobuck

06-07-2009, 09:02 PM

Only 35 points in the 1st half. I'm sure the Lakers fans think that's there great defense. :rolleyes: Orlando is starting to make open shots now. Orlando needs to push the ball more.

w7excursion

06-07-2009, 09:07 PM

Absolutely with Bynum and Odom in foul trouble.

fakeguy

06-07-2009, 09:50 PM

Why does a rookie take the last shot? He had two chances to win this game. Good game though.

fakeguy

06-07-2009, 09:55 PM

Games over. Changing channel. Magic gave it away.

tbakergobuck

06-07-2009, 10:14 PM

SprintMamba

06-07-2009, 10:31 PM

Good game, Lee should have made 1 of those shots.

fakeguy

06-07-2009, 11:27 PM

I can only imagine how pissed Kobe and Jack would be if the refs called Courtney Lee's basket good with .5 left in the game since Gasol did hit the rim/back board. I guess Orlando had there chances but the officiating still continues to be inconsistent.

He not only hit it he put his hand through the rim, but it only shook the basket a little.

MsRandall

06-07-2009, 11:39 PM

I can only imagine how pissed Kobe and Jack would be if the refs called Courtney Lee's basket good with .5 left in the game since Gasol did hit the rim/back board. I guess Orlando had there chances but the officiating still continues to be inconsistent.

Youre right because at my calculations both Dwight Howard and Hedo Turkoglu should have fouled out in the 3rd with all the elbows they throw on each touch of the ball.

Lakers showed some heart tonight and we will win the series...:tu:

bball1011

06-07-2009, 11:49 PM

Thank goodness ORL made their 3's because game 1 was just straight boring. It's time to finish it up in ORL :D

tbakergobuck

06-08-2009, 12:08 AM

He not only hit it he put his hand through the rim, but it only shook the basket a little.They replayed it and the announcers said the refs missed it. In the rule book if a defensive player hits the rim or back board during a shot then the shot is good no matter if the player misses the shot. Who knows if Gasol affected the shot by hitting the rim/back board. Majority of the time refs will not make a game changing call no matter what. Youre right because at my calculations both Dwight Howard and Hedo Turkoglu should have fouled out in the 3rd with all the elbows they throw on each touch of the ball.

Lakers showed some heart tonight and we will win the series...:tu:As I said the officiating has been inconsistent. At times they call a touch foul on Turk when Kobe pushes off but when Turk does it, it's a offensive foul. For what I saw it was nice that some touch fouls weren't called. I'm surprised they didn't call a foul when kobe got swatted by Turk.

bball1011

06-08-2009, 02:08 AM

They replayed it and the announcers said the refs missed it. In the rule book if a defensive player hits the rim or back board during a shot then the shot is good no matter if the player misses the shot. Who knows if Gasol affected the shot by hitting the rim/back board. Majority of the time refs will not make a game changing call no matter what.

As I said the officiating has been inconsistent. At times they call a touch foul on Turk when Kobe pushes off but when Turk does it, it's a offensive foul. For what I saw it was nice that some touch fouls weren't called. I'm surprised they didn't call a foul when kobe got swatted by Turk.
Blah, blah...Howard went through the rim earlier to block Pau's shot with his fingers through the net and the refs clearly missed that so the Pau backboard touch on the Lee layup attempt cancels out. Howard and Hedo throw elbows and push off like crazy and they call it maybe 2 times the whole game so yea...blah, blah :p

advancephlowa

06-08-2009, 02:41 AM

It is about time I see other fans besides Lakers Fans. Everybody knows that the NBA corporate office wants the Lakers to win it all. The Lakers have been getting calls in the paint that should not be called. The NBA wants Kobe to be the next MJ not going to happen. I say the magic in 6, not a magic or laker fan but I like underdogs

tbakergobuck

06-08-2009, 06:20 AM

Blah, blah...Howard went through the rim earlier to block Pau's shot with his fingers through the net and the refs clearly missed that so the Pau backboard touch on the Lee layup attempt cancels out. Howard and Hedo throw elbows and push off like crazy and they call it maybe 2 times the whole game so yea...blah, blah :pIt's funny because if LA did lose the game they would blame the refs. lol I also think it's funny how you praised Lebron James and then started calling him Queen James after he lost. Enjoy the lucky win last night and I know a win is a win.

Mr-Sleeper-34

06-08-2009, 07:35 AM

Youre right because at my calculations both Dwight Howard and Hedo Turkoglu should have fouled out in the 3rd with all the elbows they throw on each touch of the ball.

Lakers showed some heart tonight and we will win the series...:tu:

^GO LAKE SHOW! :Popcorn2:

Thank goodness ORL made their 3's because game 1 was just straight boring. It's time to finish it up in ORL :D

^You know it. :tu:

fakeguy

06-08-2009, 09:48 AM

It's funny because if LA did lose the game they would blame the refs. lol I also think it's funny how you praised Lebron James and then started calling him Queen James after he lost. Enjoy the lucky win last night and I know a win is a win.

It's OK, Lakers fans are always confused with nicknames. They still chant MVP for their idol everytime he's at the free throw line. Can't accept reality...

Sadly this series is over, I think it will end 4-1.

The NBA wants Kobe to be the next MJ not going to happen.

That will NEVER happen. Unless MJ goes a little too far in Denver too...

w7excursion

06-08-2009, 12:04 PM

Touch Down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

bball1011

06-08-2009, 05:28 PM

It's funny because if LA did lose the game they would blame the refs. lol I also think it's funny how you praised Lebron James and then started calling him Queen James after he lost. Enjoy the lucky win last night and I know a win is a win.
I do like Lebron and I do think he deserved the MVP award, but I started calling him Queen James after his performance and lack of leadership in the ECF. He's been crowned as "king" and "the chosen one" and all the reporters and experts are calling him better than Kobe and this is just not true. I was about to be a "witness", but I'm not a true believer yet. He has to win a championship 1st (which I thought he had a very good chance to do this year) and again show true leadership, which he didn't show in the ECF, then and only then will I call him King James again.

As for the refs, I've said it time and time again, they always make bad calls. Its not even worth blaming the refs. Its always gonna be that way. Call it luck or whatever you like, but true champions always come out on top no matter what :D

tbakergobuck

06-08-2009, 05:51 PM

I know it doesn't matter now but I'm bored. I wasn't really blaming the refs but if it was turned around and Howard did the same thing with .5 left in the game and Kobe missed a lay up then all you LA fans would be *****ing, right? It really was a huge no call. I disagree about the Champions always come out on top. As much complaining Van Gundy did in the Cleveland series I'm surprised he hasn't done that in the Finals.

Hedo Turkoglu Big Block on Kobe - Courtney Lee's Key Miss to End Regulation. At then end the announcer said is that goal tending and Magic Johnson said no his finger got caught in the net. :lol: After seeing this is slow motion you can clearly tell the backboard moved when Gasol hit the rim.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKshgJwb_ac

Courtney Lee Missed Layup FTW NBA Finals Orlando Magic Los Angeles Lakers (IN PERSON) wow.. lol coming from a LA fan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X2MyWEqMwY

Pictures don't lie.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/tbaker/nba_g_clee_200.jpg

fakeguy

06-08-2009, 06:05 PM

Magic was a great player but he is the most biased "announcer" ever. Lee should have made that the basket moved but he still would have missed...

bball1011

06-08-2009, 06:20 PM

Magic was a great player but he is the most biased "announcer" ever. Lee should have made that the basket moved but he still would have missed...
I could've made that basket and I'm 5'3 :p

SprintMamba

06-08-2009, 07:56 PM

So much hate towards the Lakers and Kobe. And when they win it this year they still won't get any love from all the haters.

Magic are losing this series because of the defense being played on Howard, he isn't even a factor and without him they have no chance at winning. Lee proved why you always want your best player taking the last shot.

tbakergobuck

06-08-2009, 08:46 PM

Magic was a great player but he is the most biased "announcer" ever. Lee should have made that the basket moved but he still would have missed...I'll agree about Magic being the most biased announcer and that's why I had a laughing smiley after what I said. If you know for sure that Gasol didn't affect the shot at all let me know the lotto numbers. lol I think most people know when a back board is moving there is a chance it could affect the basketball. Now I'm not saying Lee missed the shot because Gasol hit the rim but regardless if that affected the shot or not the rule are the rules.

RULE NO. 11-BASKETBALL INTERFERENCE-GOALTENDING
Vibrate the rim or backboard so as to cause the ball to make an unnatural bounce.

Lee made some important shots against the Cavs and he will be a good player, he's only 23. It was a great play and you can't have the same players taking clutch shots all the time.

GrayKode

06-08-2009, 10:26 PM

As Much as i love my Orlando Magics. i see the lakers winning it in 5:( . ...i couldn't bear to watch the game after lee missed one of the easiest shots in the playoffs. i noticed how they had the NBA trophy shipped to Orlando..lol...guess everyone knows that magic wont be able to win all 3 games at home...maybe some magic will happen?..who knows