[Pre] Advertisements in the Media

[hotis300boy]

I'm seeing posts on Twitter that there was a Palm Pre on Knight Rider last night. Did anyone see this? Im watching the episode now... here is the link http://www.hulu.com/watch/57415/knight-rider-fly-by-knight

[cwfluke]

I'm seeing posts on Twitter that there was a Palm Pre on Knight Rider last night. Did anyone see this? Im watching the episode now... here is the link http://www.hulu.com/watch/57415/knight-rider-fly-by-knight

Hard to tell really - looks like it might be it

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikecane02/3276831454/

[Awake]

If that is the Pre It would not surprise me a bit, Sprint and NBC are partners. I believe the Pre has made it's way onto the TV show 'Leverage' as well. Check out this clip: http://www.tnt.tv/dramavision.jsp?oid=45696


Edit: From precentral.. Update: False alarm. Palm responded to the Knight Rider screencaps on their twitter page declaring...

"They're impostors."

[dkotoric]

Looks like the Touch Dual to me

[hotis300boy]

palm released a statement earlier today saying it was an IMPOSTER sorry guys lol

[GolpherZX]

Thinking about using this portion as the place for info about advertising, not related to specific launch dates...

It looks as though Palm is starting to gear up some sort of advertisements for the launch of the Pre. Which means the March 15th date is most definitely not going to happen, as many of us expect.



http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2009/03/09/palm-forces-elevation-to-sell-185m-shrs-proceeds-shared/?mod=yahoobarrons

Palm (PALM) this morning said it will follow through on plans to exercise its right to “remarket” 18.5 million common shares underlying 49% of the Series C units of preferred stock and warrants acquired by Elevation Partners in January 2009. Another 2.8 million shares could be sold under an over-allotment option.

Elevation will receive its original cost for the units - $49 million - with Palm to get the rest of the net proceeds. The company will use the cash to strengthen its working capital position and to “bolster the resources Palm is devoting to the launch of the Palm Pre” and future product development efforts.

Elevation expects to use proceeds it receives to buy common stock in the offering at the public offering price.

PALM this morning is down 40 cents, or 6.5%, at $5.75.

[d12a60n]

I agree - the March 15th date is unlikely, but I'm glad there are some recent moves financially. It means they are either using the $ towards ramping up production to meet demand or focusing on a huge marketing campaign now. I

[GolpherZX]

At this point I'm going with you on the marketing campaign side. I'm guessing that the one thing that the Apple boys that went over to Palm brought with is the need for marketing on this project. I'm wondering how similar the advertising on TV may mirror that on Palm.com.

[d12a60n]

I actually think the video that Palm did on their website - how it introduced some basic features using the "starting out in the morning" was done quite well. That in itself should be great as a teaser commercial!!

[PlatMan]

Yes, waiting is hard and the anticipation is fun.

I agree, Palm has the best advertizement I have ever seen for any cell phone that has been out. Their lonnnnnnggggg presentation given at a CES meeting of theirs and Sprints. This video does make your mouth water, doesn't it! :D

http://www.palm.com/us/products/phones/pre/ces-video.html

[TheToph]

I just watched that whole thing....wow.. SOLD!

[joe.simpson123]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10191724-94.html

[Hush]

For what it's worth, I was at Best Buy the other day and the cell phone rep told me that they had the Pre in but they had to send it back for whatever reason. He said he doesn't know when they are going to get them back in but he does know that the new HTC Pro will be out by the end of March.

[DtownSprintel]

wow

[Zeeshan]

i just watched that whole presentation. damn good device. i mean i was going to buy it anyway but now im really getting impatient after watching.

[TreoLady]

For what it's worth, I was at Best Buy the other day and the cell phone rep told me that they had the Pre in but they had to send it back for whatever reason. He said he doesn't know when they are going to get them back in but he does know that the new HTC Pro will be out by the end of March.

Don't believe that...they probably meant the Palm Pro.

[mikejames07]

Thinking about using this portion as the place for info about advertising, not related to specific launch dates...

It looks as though Palm is starting to gear up some sort of advertisements for the launch of the Pre. Which means the March 15th date is most definitely not going to happen, as many of us expect.



http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2009/03/09/palm-forces-elevation-to-sell-185m-shrs-proceeds-shared/?mod=yahoobarrons


Yeah the Treo Pro is what is coming out on the 15th...not the Pre

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/03/04/sprints-palm-treo-pro-set-to-make-its-debut-on-march-15th/

[Zeeshan]

yea dont count on the pre anytime soon. my buddy works at radioshack and he said they havent heard ANYTHING about the pre yet...and they usually here about phones 2 weeks before they come out. the pro they knew about...the pre...nothing.

[ndnguy85]

yea dont count on the pre anytime soon. my buddy works at radioshack and he said they havent heard ANYTHING about the pre yet...and they usually here about phones 2 weeks before they come out. the pro they knew about...the pre...nothing.
but the pre might be exclusive to best buy..so RS wouldn't know anything anyway.

[Zeeshan]

but the pre might be exclusive to best buy..so RS wouldn't know anything anyway.

im a best buy hater..lol. i'll be purchasing from sprint store or telesales.

[NM08SRT8]

yea dont count on the pre anytime soon. my buddy works at radioshack and he said they havent heard ANYTHING about the pre yet...and they usually here about phones 2 weeks before they come out. the pro they knew about...the pre...nothing.
Don't think they will hear anything since Best Buy has the exclusive outside of Sprint retail locations..

[NM08SRT8]

but the pre might be exclusive to best buy..so RS wouldn't know anything anyway.
lol, you beat me to it damnit.

[meatpopsicle]

Well what if you live in a state where Best Buy doesn't carry sprint?

[NM08SRT8]

Then, Go to Sprint..

[pesok]

well march 15th has come and gone and pre is not out so rumours are false. Dont really care about getting pre that much but i really hope that Pre will make HTC pro bit cheaper to get?

[NM08SRT8]

well march 15th has come and gone and pre is not out so rumours are false. Dont really care about getting pre that much but i really hope that Pre will make HTC pro bit cheaper to get?
Dude, no where did it say the Pre was coming out this month. 15th has been confirmed thousands of times for the Pro, not the Pre.. Pro was confirmed for today, and Sprint delivered.. Pre is confirmed for 1H, 2009.. and Sprint will deliver. Relax please.

[AmeriKenny]

The Palm Treo Pro came out on March 15 people! GIVE IT A REST.

[pesok]

jeez guys relax, no need to get pissy i am new here and posted about this for the first time. I just went by what i saw here(not sure if that qualifies as "no where did it say":
http://www.precentral.net/palm-pre-release-date-revealed-sprint-eol-list-march-15th
and here:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Palm-Pre-Might-Get-Launched-on-March-15-103780.shtml

and decided to ask on sprint forum where i just registered, didnt expect such a warm welcome though:)

[neverenough02]

Dont take it personally pesok, they are just upset the damn phone wasnt in our hands last year when everyone was stuck with the bug filled curves and moto Qs.

[Thug541]

Wait..the Curve is bugged filled?

[neverenough02]

Wait..the Curve is bugged filled?

When it first came to sprint it was. Couldnt even MMS a pic. The point is Sprint waits too longto bring a competitve exclusive smart phone to the market and then pumps it up to be incredable but does not give it to us, or even a release date. Sure they are moving along as schedualed at Palm but, Sprint should have worked deals with blackberry releases a long time ago. I can understand why people get snappy at this point.

[Diana Prince]

When it first came to sprint it was. Couldnt even MMS a pic. The point is Sprint waits too longto bring a competitve exclusive smart phone to the market and then pumps it up to be incredable but does not give it to us, or even a release date. Sure they are moving along as schedualed at Palm but, Sprint should have worked deals with blackberry releases a long time ago. I can understand why people get snappy at this point.

Not sure bug filled and lack of MMS are the same. Curve is a pretty stable device.

[sel1965]

Not sure bug filled and lack of MMS are the same. Curve is a pretty stable device.

I agree, never have had a problem with my curve.

[Thug541]

Yeah i'm going to have to concur...not having MMS isn't a bug. If thats the case...the iPhone is pretty damn bug riddled haha.

Curve is the best smart phone i've owned thus far. It never freezes on me and i've probably had to do a hard reset twice in the year i've owned it for a bug related issue.

And I also think it wasn't Sprint's lack of trying in the smart phone department....in fact i think thats where they aren't lacking personally.

The Curve came to Verion/Sprint around the same time....I think RIM just isn't that big into CDMA.

But their partnership with HTC and Palm have always been strong.

[neverenough02]

Yeah i'm going to have to concur...not having MMS isn't a bug. If thats the case...the iPhone is pretty damn bug riddled haha.

Curve is the best smart phone i've owned thus far. It never freezes on me and i've probably had to do a hard reset twice in the year i've owned it for a bug related issue.

And I also think it wasn't Sprint's lack of trying in the smart phone department....in fact i think thats where they aren't lacking personally.

The Curve came to Verion/Sprint around the same time....I think RIM just isn't that big into CDMA.

But their partnership with HTC and Palm have always been strong.

I cant remeber most of the facts off the top of my head but I beleive we waited an additional 4 months to get the curve after its release date on other carriers. That = 4 months of new customers who wanted that phone in particular. I beleive they had many other bugs as well. As mentioned above, they were not phone killing bugs but quirks that people had issues with. I beleive the music player was down. I think the wait for our new software from sprint was almost a year after verizon customers received the same updates. The I phone is filled with "bugs" according to most news articals and unbiased phone review websites. Since then, apple has resolved a lot of these issues from what I have read. We still dont have the storm, the bold, the I phone, or the 8900 (doesnt look like we will at least) and these are a huuuge source of new customer revenue. Sprint is loosing customers while every other carrier is growing. I personally think sprint has the best plans and service coverage but the proof is in the pudding. You need the phones to pull customers! All I am saying is that sprint really would have done a lot better if their efforts included a competitve exclusive phone or two. I am hoping they dont drop the ball on this and wait until May or June to release the Pre.

[Matt]

The lack of MMS is not a bug. It was something left out.

A bug is something the software is supposed to do but doesn't or does it improperly.

Example: "My new phone has Telenav but everytime I try to open it my phone freezes up".

and the word is "Losing" not "loosing".

I would expect the Pre in June or July. The device still has much that needs to be done.

[Thug541]

Sounds about right.

[monkeyboy]

The lack of MMS is not a bug. It was something left out.How does it go? Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence...

[NM08SRT8]

Yeah i'm going to have to concur...not having MMS isn't a bug. If thats the case...the iPhone is pretty damn bug riddled haha.

Curve is the best smart phone i've owned thus far. It never freezes on me and i've probably had to do a hard reset twice in the year i've owned it for a bug related issue.

And I also think it wasn't Sprint's lack of trying in the smart phone department....in fact i think thats where they aren't lacking personally.

The Curve came to Verion/Sprint around the same time....I think RIM just isn't that big into CDMA.

But their partnership with HTC and Palm have always been strong.
Not anymore lol. It now has MMS and Copy/Paste

[decypher44]

Not anymore lol. It now has MMS and Copy/Paste

And more! For me, MMS is pretty big.

[Thug541]

Yeah iPhone def. fixed A LOT of negatives i had of it.

Hell...a lot less reason to switch to a Pre if iPhone owners were interested.

(I still want the pre more).

[NM08SRT8]

Yeah iPhone def. fixed A LOT of negatives i had of it.

Hell...a lot less reason to switch to a Pre if iPhone owners were interested.

(I still want the pre more).
Well if people want real multitasking, and not Push alerts.. I know it might not be THE biggest reason to switch, but after Apples wacked out reasoning.. I'm sure there is no chance for this in the future.

[Awake]

It will be interesting to see if Att's network can even handle MMS, look what happened in Texas last week and at CES this year. Not only were a lot of iphone owners not able to make calls, they couldn't send a simple txt. I wouldn't want to be that Att rep telling customers they have to pay an additional $30 (guessing, wouldn't be surprised) on top of their already high service plan.

[neverenough02]

The lack of MMS is not a bug. It was something left out.

A bug is something the software is supposed to do but doesn't or does it improperly.

Example: "My new phone has Telenav but everytime I try to open it my phone freezes up".

and the word is "Losing" not "loosing".

I would expect the Pre in June or July. The device still has much that needs to be done.

Mi Spellin Duz not matter if u can understand what i am cumunicating too you. This isnt a graded paper... Why are you trying to start an argument about what the definition of a bug could be? The point is there has never been an exclusive smart phone for sprint customers to crave. Everyone had the curve for months before sprint, bugs or not. Not having MMS was a bug IMO since the plans sprint sold said they included picture mail. Just because it was not a Blackberry caused bug does not mean it wasnt a bug.

[monkeyboy]

The point is there has never been an exclusive smart phone for sprint customers to crave.I dunno why you say that... for example, Sprint has had a long history with Palm, having exclusive sales of most Palm CDMA products for usually 6mos, most of the Treos, the Centro and now the Pre. Of course it depends on how you define "crave", but plenty of customers "craved" the various Palm devices and became Sprint customers as a result. Sprint also had the Mogul early, and the Touch/Vogue... although there I suppose you could argue that GSM equivalents were available, at least outside the US... Sprint had the Samsung i500 and its predecessors (i300, i330), which also had a very loyal following (earlier Palm phones). In short, I don't think your point has merit...

Of course if you are going to define "crave" as "icrave", well, there simply hasn't been anything like the iPhone before in terms of market impact...

[NM08SRT8]

Mi Spellin Duz not matter if u can understand what i am cumunicating too you. This isnt a graded paper... Why are you trying to start an argument about what the definition of a bug could be? The point is there has never been an exclusive smart phone for sprint customers to crave. Everyone had the curve for months before sprint, bugs or not. Not having MMS was a bug IMO since the plans sprint sold said they included picture mail. Just because it was not a Blackberry caused bug does not mean it wasnt a bug.
I'm sorry but I'm agreeing with Matt all the way on this. A bug is when something isn't working like it should. You cannot have a bug with something that isn't there.. Sorry

[neverenough02]

I'm sorry but I'm agreeing with Matt all the way on this. A bug is when something isn't working like it should. You cannot have a bug with something that isn't there.. Sorry

:laughing:

[Matt]

"The point is there has never been an exclusive smart phone for sprint customers to crave."

Well, why don't you yell at Sprint and not me. ;)

[neverenough02]

"The point is there has never been an exclusive smart phone for sprint customers to crave."

Well, why don't you yell at Sprint and not me. ;)

I am not yelling at anyone. Just threw out that people seem grumpy in regards to the pre release date due to the lack of phones to get excited about in the recent months. Next thing you know people are talking about what their opinion of a "bug" is and all kinds of other nonsense. O well. No harm no foul.

[Thug541]

Mi Spellin Duz not matter if u can understand what i am cumunicating too you. This isnt a graded paper... Why are you trying to start an argument about what the definition of a bug could be? The point is there has never been an exclusive smart phone for sprint customers to crave. Everyone had the curve for months before sprint, bugs or not. Not having MMS was a bug IMO since the plans sprint sold said they included picture mail. Just because it was not a Blackberry caused bug does not mean it wasnt a bug.

I'm going to agree with Matt on this one as well sorry.

A bug is a malfunction in a phone not intended.

MMS just wans't approved from Sprint for whatever reason(probably because they use picture mail).

Everyone had a curve yes....but Sprint and verizon have the most up to date curve. How many people have a 3G curve?

It was an update to a model name...but the phone itself had new internals.

[Dunpeal]

I strongly believe tha Palm Pre will follow in its marketing foot steps as th Samsung Instinct did. Thus, it is mor likely the phone will be released in mid June 2009.

However, there will be some "official" cry wolf calls prior to then.

BTW, for those of you that dont know, MMS is now on the Curve and Pearl with SW version 4.5

[NM08SRT8]

I don't. I think the Pre will have way better advertising because Palm's stoked about this.. This is their device to get them back up and running again. They are going to push marketing themselves, as well as pushing Sprint to market the hell out of this thing.

Old news bud lol. Ton's of people know this already. :)

[Thug541]

I honestly think commercials in the style of the "Meet the Pre" video on Palm.com would work.

Just make it look more "real" so people don't think its simulated. Then do it on different topics.

[dknight247]

Thinking about using this portion as the place for info about advertising, not related to specific launch dates...

It looks as though Palm is starting to gear up some sort of advertisements for the launch of the Pre. Which means the March 15th date is most definitely not going to happen, as many of us expect.



http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2009/03/09/palm-forces-elevation-to-sell-185m-shrs-proceeds-shared/?mod=yahoobarrons

An interesting perspective from Mr. Barbas on the Facebook Pre page:

"Charles Barbas (France) wrote
at 7:24am on March 16th, 2009
Various european papers are very sceptical on the reality of this palm pre... this beauty may never show up!
Apparently, Palm needed to announce this Pre to raise no more than 112m$ on the nasdaq to buy-out the VC fund, only 10 prototypes are out, and the production is far from started...... sounds bad
Sprint revealed a 100$/month unlimited offer... 100$ ???!!!
Report "

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?sid=8ca0fab7ecba1a5e615c79da33687406&gid=44938817578

[neverenough02]

I'm going to agree with Matt on this one as well sorry.

A bug is a malfunction in a phone not intended.

MMS just wans't approved from Sprint for whatever reason(probably because they use picture mail).

Everyone had a curve yes....but Sprint and verizon have the most up to date curve. How many people have a 3G curve?

It was an update to a model name...but the phone itself had new internals.

Sprint and Verizon have the old BB curve. Not too sure where your head is at. The curve we have now has been around for a long long time (long for the phone world) and they have updated some options. T mobile has the most up to date curve. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/devices/blackberrycurve8900/?CPID=KNC-SEMD_8900_US&HBX_PK=rimggl99100000011180s&HBX_OU=50

[NM08SRT8]

Sprint and Verizon have the old BB curve. Not too sure where your head is at. The curve we have now has been around for a long long time (long for the phone world) and they have updated some options. T mobile has the most up to date curve. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/devices/blackberrycurve8900/?CPID=KNC-SEMD_8900_US&HBX_PK=rimggl99100000011180s&HBX_OU=50
Last I checked, the 8330 is pretty new..

[neverenough02]

Last I checked, the 8330 is pretty new..

Nope. Launched nearly a year ago. Still, both carriers do not have the most up to date curve.

[lnong]

Anyone see this new posting yet?

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=14970

It says:
'...Palm didn’t put a date on the Pre launch, but said the device and its software were “being polished up” and being certified from Sprint as the company prepares to ramp up manufacturing.

The big takeaway: There are no showstoppers for the Pre launch in the first half of the year. CFO Doug Jeffries also added that “there’s an enormous amount of interest globally for the Pre...'

[Dunpeal]

I dont understand what you mean by "both carriers do not have the most up to date curve." ? Are you talking about the 8900 as being the most up to date curve in this prespective in which they dont have ?

[Show]

We will see how the advertising goes. Of course they want to do a killer marketing job. Timing is the issue, if the competitors come out with a cheaper updated/upgraded version of a popular phone and people buy that phone frustrated waiting for the pre or maybe they just consider the phone a good deal, how many will then switch and go buy the Pre?

[neverenough02]

I dont understand what you mean by "both carriers do not have the most up to date curve." ? Are you talking about the 8900 as being the most up to date curve in this prespective in which they dont have ?

Correct!

[neverenough02]

We will see how the advertising goes. Of course they want to do a killer marketing job. Timing is the issue, if the competitors come out with a cheaper updated/upgraded version of a popular phone and people buy that phone frustrated waiting for the pre or maybe they just consider the phone a good deal, how many will then switch and go buy the Pre?

I agree. The I iphone now has the cut copy and paste along with mms. Or maybe it has not been released yet. But they have the issue solved. I hate the iphone but the idea of a bug free i phone vs a pre which will most likley need a half year of tweaking could sway a lot of minds. I beleive the 8900 was actually announced a week or two before the pre and they are already in stores. Palm shouldnt be too far off logistically.

[Show]

I agree. The I iphone now has the cut copy and paste along with mms. Or maybe it has not been released yet. But they have the issue solved. I hate the iphone but the idea of a bug free i phone vs a pre which will most likley need a half year of tweaking could sway a lot of minds. I beleive the 8900 was actually announced a week or two before the pre and they are already in stores. Palm shouldnt be too far off logistically.

I keep reading where the iPhone has cut, copy and paste. Is that for a word document? I know my treo 755p has some cut, copy paste ability.

Everybody seems to want the pre yesterday. And I'm sure that they will come out with an aggressive marketing campaign. However as I stated I think timing play a big part. If Sprint waits to late and there are other really popular brands on the market at an really affordable price, some people may not to wait any further and be swayed to buy the other phone. Timing is what could make or break how well it does.

[neverenough02]

I keep reading where the iPhone has cut, copy and paste. Is that for a word document? I know my treo 755p has some cut, copy paste ability.

Everybody seems to want the pre yesterday. And I'm sure that they will come out with an aggressive marketing campaign. However as I stated I think timing play a big part. If Sprint waits to late and there are other really popular brands on the market at an really affordable price, some people may not to wait any further and be swayed to buy the other phone. Timing is what could make or break how well it does.

I phone didnt have it and now it does.

I agree with the timing issue. Each month sprint waits, they are loosing many many customers and not gaining as many back. With the Iphone patch, more people will be apt to leave as it leaves the apple with little to wish for at this point. The pre will no doubt be gobbled up by the remaining sprint customers but that may not be enough to keep exclusivity.

[Show]

I phone didnt have it and now it does.

I agree with the timing issue. Each month sprint waits, they are loosing many many customers and not gaining as many back. With the Iphone patch, more people will be apt to leave as it leaves the apple with little to wish for at this point. The pre will no doubt be gobbled up by the remaining sprint customers but that may not be enough to keep exclusivity.

Exactly. Of course we all want a phone that is free of bugs (or as free as bugs as it can possibly get) however they should make sure (or maybe should have already made sure) that this happen and strategically release the phone to minimize defections to the other carriers and for those people who would defect to do so before they purchase another phone and don't defect.

[lacotomo]

Here in Michigan, there have been a lot of ramped up Sprint commercials during the NCAA tournament. Since sports rules the world.....is the Final Four weekend the perfect time to release the Pre or what?

[Show]

The Super Bowl would have been the ideal time but since it was not released then I would agree and say that the Final 4 would be an ideal time to release it. A lot of media coverage and then they could also advertise it for the womans Final 4 to max coverage as well.

Somehow I don't think it will be released then :fingers: but its a good thought and idea anyway. I assume the worse of two evils (for lack of a better term) and say that it won't be released until June. No CSR no one but my own opinion. Later rather than sooner. It's almost April and I waited this long so.....