[Pre] Viewing YouTube

[thejollibengali]

I know the phone isn't out yet, but has anyone read if it will have the capability to view youtube videos (like how the touch pro/iphone have a youtube viewer, or flash from the web? Thanks!

[cwfluke]

I know the phone isn't out yet, but has anyone read if it will have the capability to view youtube videos (like how the touch pro/iphone have a youtube viewer, or flash from the web? Thanks!

If it doesn't, you can always get to youtube from the web - and the webOS browser seems to be quite capable. Even if there isn't a specific application on the phone, there seem to be satisfactory ways to view youtube videos. I personally don't care about that - but I know alot of people do. Flash was said to "not be included at the moment but they were working on adding it" - at least I think I remember the Palm VP saying that in one of the videos I watched.

[d12a60n]

Flash would be so awesome as it took this long for Apple to even finally start working with Adobe on it. Being able to watch network broadcast shows on sites like hulu.com or their respective channels would be great

[ImmaSlave4U]

I saw a demo where the rep was asked to access Youtube.com via the web browser and when she was asked to play a video, she did...but it came up with an error. No flash support?!

I hope they change that before the release. Geez.

[NM08SRT8]

They're working on flash support

[AmeriKenny]

If they don't make YouTube easily accessible on the Pre it would be one of the biggest blunders they have made with the device.

[NM08SRT8]

If they don't make YouTube easily accessible on the Pre it would be one of the biggest blunders they have made with the device.
...Because of no Youtube support? So the device will be a flop because of no Youtube support?

If anyone bases their decision of buying a device, just off of the sole purpose of it not supporting youtube, they need a CAT Scan..

[AmeriKenny]

YouTube is one of the most important applications that a smart device should be capable of handling. The iPhone has it, the Instinct has it, the Centro has it, some Treos have it....it would be shocking if the Pre didn't support it without having to download some third party app the way you have to do with the Treo 800w.

[NM08SRT8]

YouTube is one of the most important applications that a smart device should be capable of handling. The iPhone has it, the Instinct has it, the Centro has it, some Treos have it....it would be shocking if the Pre didn't support it without having to download some third party app the way you have to do with the Treo 800w.
You have mobile support.. not native support. It will be supported when Flash is finally integrated and updated for webOS. May not be at launch, but Flash and Palm are working on it as we speak.. and if they can't meet the deadline, they will come pretty damn close to it, shortly after the launch of the Pre.

BTW, Flash is a "3rd party supporter"... And has been for numerous devices.

[AmeriKenny]

I just read in another thread that the Instinct got postponed twice before it was released. I'd say that the same will happen with Pre since they haven't rectified the YouTube problem yet. It would be dumb to release the Pre and then fix it AFTER release. I don't know how Sprint is going to do it, but it would be a much better idea if they just waited till after Palm and Flash got on the same page.

[NM08SRT8]

Dude, nothing else has been released about the phone.. It's funny how you're basing this off of.. what?

And no it wouldn't be dumb, either way, you're going to complain. You'll chew out Palm and Sprint for not releasing it sooner, then if they do.. you'll complain because of the bugs and/or no flash support, if applicable. So either way, To people such as yourself, they loose.

[AmeriKenny]

I'm not basing it off anything except my experience with the Treo 800w. That is the newest available Sprint Palm phone with the newest version of Windows Mobile but it could not play YouTube vids unless you bought some third party app. I'm not complaining, just discussing. This is a discussion board. I'm just speculating and hoping for the best.

Bugs are bad. Not having a very popular thing such as YouTube is bad for a phone this advanced. I'm not too worried about that stuff. Don't blow it out of proportion. If it wasn't what I thought it was, I'll simply go for another phone.

[NM08SRT8]

But again, thats WM, this is a totally different OS, Remember that. Palm is only a brand..

[AmeriKenny]

Since the Palm operating systems on the Treo 700's and the Centro have the ability to play YouTube, I seriously doubt WebOS wouldn't be able to support YouTube.

[cwfluke]

Since the Palm operating systems on the Treo 700's and the Centro have the ability to play YouTube, I seriously doubt WebOS wouldn't be able to support YouTube.

I'm confused - whilst I can see where it might be a nice feature, I'm still trying to wrap my head around someone making a decision about a phone based on YouTube support?!?! If that's the number one criteria for choosing a phone, perhaps a different phone might be in order other than the Pre or some other WM smart phone. There are plenty of very smart "dumb phones" out there that have it integrated right in - or so I hear.

[AmeriKenny]

Well part of my wanting it to have YouTube could be the fact that I own a YouTube channel www.kennychannel.com where I have 145 subscribers to my videos.

[NM08SRT8]

So it's impartiality that you have Youtube with you, 24/7, to the point where it just can't wait until you get home?

[AmeriKenny]

Well that's not the main reason. I guess the main reason is to show cool spur-of-the-moment videos to friends. I've done that already with a Centro that I had for a short while. YouTube has EVERYTHING. Since I'm a person that wants the most bang for the buck and I value YouTube so highly out of all the sites on the internet, I think that any phone more advanced than an LG Lotus or Palm Centro MUST be capable of accessing YouTube. I mean even the Instinct has it. I'm confident that it will have YouTube. There's almost no doubt in my mind. They aren't confined by the rules of Windows Mobile like they are with the Treo 800w and Pro. With their own OS's like the Treo 700's and Centro they can make sure the Pre's WebOS is YouTube ready. And as I've already stated, I hope and pray that is what they will have worked on between the CES 2009 and the Pre release date.

[ImmaSlave4U]

I would definitely be disappointed not being able to access YouTube videos on the Pre. I do it all the time on my Instinct (and wish it were even more YouTube-friendly than it is...like the iPhone).

[orngcrsh]

Was watching youtube videos on a newer build of the Pre so yes baby its there :)

[cwfluke]

Was watching youtube videos on a newer build of the Pre so yes baby its there :)

:haha:

And its still being released Sunday I bet too, huh?!

[orngcrsh]

LOL u funny. Lucky enough to know peeps testing it.

[NM08SRT8]

LOL u funny. Lucky enough to know peeps testing it.
I'm hoping you're right, but a few other things I wanted to mention..

WELCOME TO SprintUsers! Please use the search feature or the good ol' fashion way of browsing through the pages to check for your question before you ask.

Secondly, Please, don't take offense to people that are going to criticize you, providing you are correct and accurate on what you say... Your post count to others will reflect otherwise. In any event, enjoy the site and Welcome

[orngcrsh]

NM08SRT8 - Thanks for the welcome! Been lurking for a while but I am pretty interested in the Pre and wanted to share that tidbit.

[cwfluke]

NM08SRT8 - Thanks for the welcome! Been lurking for a while but I am pretty interested in the Pre and wanted to share that tidbit.

No offense meant at all, man! There are just a myriad of people on here that claim to have talked to this person or that person, and they say this date or that date, etc etc etc. It just gets old after a while. But like the previous guy said - I hope you are correct and actually do have an insider!!!

[orngcrsh]

I hear ya on that and don't blame ya if some new poster like myself says something like that. So take my word for what it is, which is first hand knowledge if I might add. It took me a bit of convincing to see the wares because Palm is so secretive with this thing.

[thejollibengali]

so I wanted to know, although phones like the instinct, iphone, and touch pro don't support flash, how are they able to have youtube apps? (can someone explain how they can do this, do they convert the videos to avi, sorry if I am not so tech saavy with this)

[maxima2k53]

in my opinion...i dont give a s*** about youtube support...i got the motorola v950 and i had to download opera 4.2 to get the youtube support and i never use youtube....the main purpose of the pre is multitasking....not youtube supporting!!

[AmeriKenny]

The Pre not having YouTube support would be the biggest joke in modern cell phone history. It will have YouTube support. Mark it down.

[AmeriKenny]

so I wanted to know, although phones like the instinct, iphone, and touch pro don't support flash, how are they able to have youtube apps? (can someone explain how they can do this, do they convert the videos to avi, sorry if I am not so tech saavy with this)
I've been wondering the same thing. Anyone know the answer? My Touch Pro loves the YouTube site, but it doesn't seem to play similar video files on other sites.

[Park]

The Pre not having YouTube support would be the biggest joke in modern cell phone history. It will have YouTube support. Mark it down.

You overestimate the importance of YouTube on a smartphone.

[AmeriKenny]

I think you underestimate the importance of YouTube on any able bodied cell phone -- especially smartphones.

[Diana Prince]

I don't use bluetooth on my phones, but I'd have to scratch my head about a phone with so much hype (not to mention it's fan boy support) not having bluetooth. I actually enjoy being able to watch youtube videos on my phone. I did it all the time on my HTC Touch. I would just find it odd that it wouldn't have something that many older phones already have and that many people enjoy.

[dsulls]

To answer the question asked, I believe youtube also keeps a second copy of all their videos in .3gp format so that they work with cell phones. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I've heard.

[w7excursion]

Thats what tinytube or mobile youtube is for. Its converted to 3gp/3g2 or flip phones couldnt view videos.

[w7excursion]

I think you underestimate the importance of YouTube on any able bodied cell phone -- especially smartphones.

I rank the need for youtube at the bottom of my list. I never hear anyone I know talk about wanting to use their phones to watch youtube. I rarely do.

[neelesh]

I Love having youtube on my phone...I use it every so often, but I have a feeling (I mean just a guess) that it will probably have youtube, since I feel like almost every smartphone has a dedicated youtube app (which would be the best), but worst case you can just go to m.youtube.com and it will work there (but that would be the worst case scenario)

[AmeriKenny]

Well I know that a lot of people use YouTube. If you want a good reason to use YouTube, here's one. FREE MUSIC. Why pay money and download a song when you can look it up on YouTube and listen to it? It may not be CD quality, but if you have a more advanced phone like an HTC Touch Pro, the quality is near CD quality depending on how good the upload of that particular video/song was. So if you have unlimited data on your plan and your phone is YouTube capable, that's like having unlimited access to songs (except the ones that were removed because of copyright/royalty violations, etc.).

[GolpherZX]

You take YouTube for just the music, or the videos too? That could be slightly entertaining, but what about Pandora? I've started using it a lot more lately on my Blackberry...

[w7excursion]

If it comes with a youtube app it wouldnt bother me. Its just not important to me. If I want free music I use my computer and put it on my memory card.

[Park]

Even for those that feel like YouTube is such an important thing to have on their phone, why are you stressing about it so much? Like someone earlier said, even if there's not a native app, just go to the mobile site. Either way you'll have your precious YouTube.

I like YouTube and used it on my iPhone sometimes, but its lack or inclusion on the Pre won't affect the phone's success much.

[cwfluke]

Even for those that feel like YouTube is such an important thing to have on their phone, why are you stressing about it so much? Like someone earlier said, even if there's not a native app, just go to the mobile site. Either way you'll have your precious YouTube.

I like YouTube and used it on my iPhone sometimes, but its lack or inclusion on the Pre won't affect the phone's success much.

Or at all!! There are many ways around an actual "YouTube app"

[NM08SRT8]

Even for those that feel like YouTube is such an important thing to have on their phone, why are you stressing about it so much? Like someone earlier said, even if there's not a native app, just go to the mobile site. Either way you'll have your precious YouTube.

I like YouTube and used it on my iPhone sometimes, but its lack or inclusion on the Pre won't affect the phone's success much.
Very well put.

[Awake]

I believe some people failed to understand the point of the Pre, or they did not see that leaked document which showed that the Pre's target audience are the business customers. Palm/Sprint are not going to market the Pre as a media device (although the media functions appear to be great) the new Sprint commercial of the guy in the business suit with the Pre should be pretty obvious where the Pre is headed. Also, the success or failure of a device is not dependent on a damn "youtube" app.

[NM08SRT8]

I believe some people failed to understand the point of the Pre, or they did not see that leaked document which showed that the Pre's target audience are the business customers. Palm/Sprint are not going to market the Pre as a media device (although the media functions appear to be great) the new Sprint commercial of the guy in the business suit with the Pre should be pretty obvious where the Pre is headed. Also, the success or failure of a device is not dependent on a damn "youtube" app.
It's just how crazy people are getting these days..

Example: "If the phone has a 20pin usb connector and not a 21 pin, it's going to be a dealbreaker", "If the Pre doesn't have a military time option, that will be a dealbreaker", "If the Pre doesn't have the headphone jack .1" to the right, it will be a dealbreaker". See where the overreaction begins? Is not having a Youtube app THAT big of a problem? I mean, from a scale and stand point of what is most important to a device and what isn't.. Should an application, even youtube, seriously be considered to ruin the whole phone to the point where you just won't enjoy it?

[Diana Prince]

It's just how crazy people are getting these days..

Example: "If the phone has a 20pin usb connector and not a 21 pin, it's going to be a dealbreaker", "If the Pre doesn't have a military time option, that will be a dealbreaker", "If the Pre doesn't have the headphone jack .1" to the right, it will be a dealbreaker". See where the overreaction begins? Is not having a Youtube app THAT big of a problem? I mean, from a scale and stand point of what is most important to a device and what isn't.. Should an application, even youtube, seriously be considered to ruin the whole phone to the point where you just won't enjoy it?

I would enjoy a youtube application on the phone. I am not stressed or freaking out over it. I feel quite calm. I don't think I used an exclamation mark once in anything I typed and I definitely don't think anyone posted anything "crazy". It's a forum to discuss anything and all that is Pre. Not having a youtube app isn't a "dealbreaker" for me, but for the gentleman above who has his own site on youtube, I think he is allowed to decided whether this app would be a dealbreaker for him. Again, relax and let people comment on the phone. You come off like you're the only person who can generate logical discussion involving this phone. Who are you to decide what a person (who could potentially pay hundreds of dollars for this device) is ALLOWED to expect and hope for on this phone? :td:

[Thug541]

If its not out at launch, google is clearly expanding their youtube app past just iPhone with their WinMo release....plus the fact youtube mobile will more than likely work fine.


But a youtube app would be relatively easy to put together i think.

[GolpherZX]

Don't forget the fact that Palm has joined the alliance for flash on mobile devices, or whatever it is that they are calling it these days. The Pre eventually will support flash, and thus YouTube, just that it will take a little bit of time before they do so.

Now what about all of those web sites that say "iPhone" version of their site, are they going to detect the Pre appropriately and send that device to the full website, or will it be seen as a mobile device and sent to the mobile version of the site without all the possible goodies.

[Mitalis]

I believe some people failed to understand the point of the Pre, or they did not see that leaked document which showed that the Pre's target audience are the business customers. Palm/Sprint are not going to market the Pre as a media device (although the media functions appear to be great) the new Sprint commercial of the guy in the business suit with the Pre should be pretty obvious where the Pre is headed. Also, the success or failure of a device is not dependent on a damn "youtube" app.

I'm not sure if it's a good idea for Palm/Sprint to be marketing this phone towards business. I mean really, if this phone is intended for the average businessman why would they need the functionality to synchronize his/her facebook profile and G-mail account to the phone? Besides Exchange support, Gmail and Facebook are the other two services that Synergy (at this time) seem to work with.

Seeing as Synergy has been the main selling point to this phone since it was announced, it would make sense for this phone to be marketed to the age group of people (probably ages 14-29) that would most likely take advantage of all the features shown (Amazon Music store, Instant Messaging) as well as purchasing any future application this phone will see. Why would a businessman using the phone for business need to buy music on Amazon?

You want a phone that is designed and aimed towards a business? Get a blackberry. No other phone manufacturer in the mobile market is designed more towards a business then RIM who pride themselves being a leader for supporting business email and push capabilities.

[Thug541]

Don't forget the fact that Palm has joined the alliance for flash on mobile devices, or whatever it is that they are calling it these days. The Pre eventually will support flash, and thus YouTube, just that it will take a little bit of time before they do so.

Now what about all of those web sites that say "iPhone" version of their site, are they going to detect the Pre appropriately and send that device to the full website, or will it be seen as a mobile device and sent to the mobile version of the site without all the possible goodies.

Seeing its a webkit based browser we are going to get the iPhone versions of sites i would assume.

[NM08SRT8]

I'm not sure if it's a good idea for Palm/Sprint to be marketing this phone towards business. I mean really, if this phone is intended for the average businessman why would they need the functionality to synchronize his/her facebook profile and G-mail account to the phone? Besides Exchange support, Gmail and Facebook are the other two services that Synergy (at this time) seem to work with.

Seeing as Synergy has been the main selling point to this phone since it was announced, it would make sense for this phone to be marketed to the age group of people (probably ages 14-29) that would most likely take advantage of all the features shown (Amazon Music store, Instant Messaging) as well as purchasing any future application this phone will see. Why would a businessman using the phone for business need to buy music on Amazon?

You want a phone that is designed and aimed towards a business? Get a blackberry. No other phone manufacturer in the mobile market is designed more towards a business then RIM who pride themselves being a leader for supporting business email and push capabilities.
It doesn't matter who its marketed to. If someone is interested in the thing, they will buy it. You think WM is for your average user? No, more sophisticated business device, but tons of people on here who are average joes use WM, and smartphones in general.

[Park]

I'm not sure if it's a good idea for Palm/Sprint to be marketing this phone towards business. I mean really, if this phone is intended for the average businessman why would they need the functionality to synchronize his/her facebook profile and G-mail account to the phone? Besides Exchange support, Gmail and Facebook are the other two services that Synergy (at this time) seem to work with.

Seeing as Synergy has been the main selling point to this phone since it was announced, it would make sense for this phone to be marketed to the age group of people (probably ages 14-29) that would most likely take advantage of all the features shown (Amazon Music store, Instant Messaging) as well as purchasing any future application this phone will see. Why would a businessman using the phone for business need to buy music on Amazon?

You want a phone that is designed and aimed towards a business? Get a blackberry. No other phone manufacturer in the mobile market is designed more towards a business then RIM who pride themselves being a leader for supporting business email and push capabilities.

You're a little out of touch. Do you not realize how big facebook has gotten and how many professionals use it too? You're probably young and don't realize that the people using things like Amazon Music Store and IM range well beyond the "14-29" demographic. You act like people that use a smartphone for business want a smartphone that ONLY does business--that's not the case. Even RIM has an app store now.

Why would a business person pick a RIM device when it looks like the Pre will be great at business email and push capabilities, and also do so much more?