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ChicagoSU
02-03-2009, 06:23 PM
NBA Trade Deadline is Feb 19th who do you think will get moved and to where???
Being a Lakers fan I don't think they really need a trade. But if they were to move someone I wouldn't mind Walton or Radmonovic traded for someone who will help.
I can see S Marion, M Miller, V Carter, or J Oneil being moved.
not sure on whos moving where, but Chris Paul is a stud.
He is an advocate for bowling, and being a bowler myself, makes him ever better =)
xStriderx
02-04-2009, 12:09 PM
The Lakers won't and shouldn't make any trades and neither should the Celtics. They have all the peices they need. Teams like the Spurs, Suns and Cav's all need to make some trades.
ChicagoSU
02-04-2009, 12:12 PM
I bet the Magic wish they could get the Knicks to buyout Marbury so they could pick him up to replace Nelson. Marbury would be a great pick up for alot of teams
tbakergobuck
02-04-2009, 03:40 PM
I don't think the Cavs need a trade.
king_koopa
02-04-2009, 06:29 PM
Strap up, it's gonna be a boring trade deadline this year.
lol, i love the Lebron James going to the Cleveland Browns commercial. fav with him is still the commercial of him draining shots from across the court. i THINK it was a gatorade or powerade commercial
xStriderx
02-05-2009, 10:20 AM
^^^What? The Cav's need one more piece to become a true elite power in the NBA. Right now they're stuck in that limbo with Orlando. One more good trade and they are better then Lakers and Celt's.
xStriderx
02-05-2009, 10:26 AM
^^^What? The Cav's need one more piece to become a true elite power in the NBA. Right now they're stuck in that limbo with Orlando. One more good trade and they are better then Lakers and Celt's.
ChicagoSU
02-05-2009, 10:39 AM
I agree
^^^What? The Cav's need one more piece to become a true elite power in the NBA. Right now they're stuck in that limbo with Orlando. One more good trade and they are better then Lakers and Celt's.
tbakergobuck
02-05-2009, 02:05 PM
The Cavs have some depth now and they'll be better once West comes back. I always thought the Cavs needed another good player but pretty much there entire team has got better then last year and we all know Mo Williams has definitely made them better. If the Cavs didn't have to give up a lot up then I guess a trade would be ok but I can't think of anyone that I would want to trade.
The Cavs have some depth now and they'll be better once West comes back. I always thought the Cavs needed another good player but pretty much there entire team has got better then last year and we all know Mo Williams has definitely made them better. If the Cavs didn't have to give up a lot up then I guess a trade would be ok but I can't think of anyone that I would want to trade.
I'm with you...everyone fits into their roll perfectly. I'd like to see another Mo Williams added to the team but gosh, it's hard to think who would need to go to make that happen. Makes me nervous that it would upset chemistry and they would crash in the playoffs with not enough time to gel.
xStriderx
02-06-2009, 10:35 PM
I'm with you...everyone fits into their roll perfectly. I'd like to see another Mo Williams added to the team but gosh, it's hard to think who would need to go to make that happen. Makes me nervous that it would upset chemistry and they would crash in the playoffs with not enough time to gel.
Well then with that squad, you guys won't be seeing a Championship for the next 3 years to be honest. Celts and Lakers look like they'll be exchanging rings back and forth unless someone can change that up. The only team I see that will cause grief in the years to come is Portland. Just from last year they already shut up to 4th place in the WC and Oden still hasn't seen a fraction of his offensive potentinal yet. OH, and don't forget Orlando.
You need a solid big man to win championships and I don't think Big Z will cut it. Superman, Lamarcus and Oden are the future.
tbakergobuck
02-07-2009, 12:59 AM
Since you seem to have special powers and know the future how will the ecconmy be in 3 years? lol I think it's a little funny that every year Laker fans always think there team will win a ship no matter what. Byrum seems to be injury prone and without a player with his size and ability I just think the Lakers will come up short just like last year. Home court is big but don't forget that it's all about peaking at the right time (during the playoffs).
Well then with that squad, you guys won't be seeing a Championship for the next 3 years to be honest. Celts and Lakers look like they'll be exchanging rings back and forth unless someone can change that up. The only team I see that will cause grief in the years to come is Portland. Just from last year they already shut up to 4th place in the WC and Oden still hasn't seen a fraction of his offensive potentinal yet. OH, and don't forget Orlando.
You need a solid big man to win championships and I don't think Big Z will cut it. Superman, Lamarcus and Oden are the future.
I appreciate your comments but don't necessarily agree. Cleveland was 2 mintues from making it to the finals last year. Should they have made it, they could have disposed of the Lakers in much the same way as the Celtics. I do think they still need to to get just a tick better but like I stated before, they're team is so full of great roll players. Another big man to replace Big Ben would be great, that actually had some offence too.
tbakergobuck
02-07-2009, 09:47 AM
Suns are shopping Stoudemire. I know that the Cavs aren't mentioned as a team that is interested but damn him and Lebron would be scary together. :scare: Z can be pretty good at times and there's not to many 7 footers that can hit the 3 but his mobility is that great. Oh and being the Buckeye fan that I am I would like to see Oden do good but as of now he's not being the dominant force people thought he would be.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3890478
king_koopa
02-07-2009, 11:44 AM
Suns are shopping Stoudemire. I know that the Cavs aren't mentioned as a team that is interested but damn him and Lebron would be scary together. :scare: Z can be pretty good at times and there's not to many 7 footers that can hit the 3 but his mobility is that great. Oh and being the Buckeye fan that I am I would like to see Oden do good but as of now he's not being the dominant force people thought he would be.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3890478
What are the Cavs willing to give up to get Stoudemire? Wait, what do they have?
xStriderx
02-07-2009, 01:42 PM
Since you seem to have special powers and know the future how will the ecconmy be in 3 years? lol I think it's a little funny that every year Laker fans always think there team will win a ship no matter what. Byrum seems to be injury prone and without a player with his size and ability I just think the Lakers will come up short just like last year. Home court is big but don't forget that it's all about peaking at the right time (during the playoffs).
2.7 Million jobs created in 3 years thanks to Obama, next question.
Every Lakers fan thinks are team will win a a championship because we're acusomed to wining. When Cleveland gets some championships under their belt you're tone will change too. With that said, actually any team that as a gloried past thinks they're in the position to win it all, ie spurs, lakers, celtics.
Also, I don't think you could say Bynum seems to be injury prone. Actually you're the first person I've actually heard say that. When another player crashes into your knee, I think that's a legitiment injury and would have sidelined anyone else.
And to add, yes we lost Bynum but we beat Celtics without him at their home. We have two things we didn't have last year when we played the Celtics. The mental and physical toughness. Lamar Odon and Pau Gasol were exceptional and didn't back down at all and matched the phsyical play of Garnet and crew. Yes, we lost out 7 footer but we have the luxary of having Gasol still there who has actually shown when Bynum is out his numbers actually shoot up. OH, not to mention we have Ariza back who is healthy and and a tear on Defense. Judging by the games this year against the elite teams, we won't come short.
xStriderx
02-07-2009, 01:45 PM
What are the Cavs willing to give up to get Stoudemire? Wait, what do they have?
They don't have much to offer Suns. They would have to package one hell of a deal and future round picks to even get the Suns to even look their way. Plus, I doubt the Cav's would want to take on that huge contract seeing that in 2010 they may have to match the Knicks or Jersey when they start the Lebron biddingg wars.
xStriderx
02-07-2009, 11:03 PM
Vlad Rad just got traded for Adam Morrison and reserve guard Shannon Brown. Personally, I think they could have done better especially since Vlad was rated as such a good 3pt shooter but he was very streaky.
I think with this trade they are hoping to get Morrison's full potentioal. I mean after all the Lakers did turn around Sasha into a good defender and a great 3 pt. shooter. Hopefully we see the Morrison that tore through college.
baldyguy
02-08-2009, 02:47 AM
Not to mention the turn-around with Ariza!
I hope it works out with Morrison. Plus, imo Lakers paid too much for Radman.
Bye-bye Spaceman! :wavey:
Vlad Rad just got traded for Adam Morrison and reserve guard Shannon Brown. Personally, I think they could have done better especially since Vlad was rated as such a good 3pt shooter but he was very streaky.
I think with this trade they are hoping to get Morrison's full potentioal. I mean after all the Lakers did turn around Sasha into a good defender and a great 3 pt. shooter. Hopefully we see the Morrison that tore through college.
xStriderx
02-08-2009, 03:12 AM
ahhh, I forgot about that. They picked up Ariza for dirt cheap and he was barely getting any playjng time. Hopefully, we get the same turn around and result with Morrison.
tbakergobuck
02-08-2009, 06:02 PM
Another big man to replace Big Ben would be great, that actually had some offence too.After today's game I agree. Big Ben miss two dunks today. lol One looked like he was fouled but he should have made it.
bball1011
02-09-2009, 12:25 AM
I'd like to see my Suns trade Amare for Detroit's Sheed. He and Shaq would be awesome down low. Amare has never been a defender and that is why we can never get past the Spurs because no one can defend Duncan. Sheed is long, can shoot the three, and would make the West big men have to come out to defend that. I think the Suns would dramatically improve and would make an awesome West Finals series with the Lakers. Just my 2 cents. :D
Suns are shopping Stoudemire.
xStriderx
02-09-2009, 09:00 PM
I'd like to see my Suns trade Amare for Detroit's Sheed. He and Shaq would be awesome down low. Amare has never been a defender and that is why we can never get past the Spurs because no one can defend Duncan. Sheed is long, can shoot the three, and would make the West big men have to come out to defend that. I think the Suns would dramatically improve and would make an awesome West Finals series with the Lakers. Just my 2 cents. :D
That in my opinion would be a horrible trade. Sheed is a great player but he doesn't have much mileage left on him, while Amare on the other hand still has some time left to be all star in this league. Kerr would temporarily be solving a problem which in a couple years he'd have an aging Shaq plus an aging Sheed. By the way, no matter who you are Duncan is a difficult cover. Shaq, Dirk, whoever you stick on him has problems, he's a nightmare match up for people. Mr. Fundamental is the best Power Forward to ever play the game. And if that trade were to, by the grace of God go through, it would help but not that much. Lakers bench is way to deep.
xStriderx
02-09-2009, 09:11 PM
Pacers can give anyone except Granger for Amare and they would be a better team!
And even if the Suns traded for Sheed I don't see them being that much better, Kerr has made that team a mess and Terry Porter was the wrong coach I think.
Great Lakers/Boston game on thurs night! And after the Lakers beat CLE sunday I think that shows that CLE needs to make a trade to be up there with the Lakers/Celtics/Spurs since they lost with Bynum out and Kobe being sick. Now I think Sheed would fit great with Cavs maybe they could trade Wallys expiring contract and some others, I just don't know if DET would be willing to help CLE like that.
That would actually be an excellent trade. Amare with Granger...WHOA! To bad Amare probably wouldn't go for it. Rumors are he wants to go to a nationalized market and some where that already has an established playoff contending team.
Agree with you on the Clev. trade. I've been saying that all year but people think I'm just hating. After Sunday's game though, I realized they need to make a lot more moves then just the Center position. The Cav's need a deeper supporting cast and that was really highlighted in the 4rth quarter when the Bench Mob was on the court for more then HALF of the 4th quarter against Cav's starters and the lead was slowly increasing in favor of the Lakers.
Sheed would fit great with the Cav's but giving up Wally kind of hurts at the same time. Wally spreads the floor really well. Plus, I 100% guarantee no general manager on the east coast would make a trade to help Cleveland especially Detroit. They know there is a good chance they might run into them in the playoffs.
tbakergobuck
02-09-2009, 09:50 PM
The Cavs just need a 1 player that has some size and can hit mid-range jump shots when the game is on the line. The Lakers were giving the Cavs that shot but no one really took it. The Cavs offense is up and down but it will get better once Delonte West comes back.
bball1011
02-09-2009, 09:51 PM
Amare is a free agent next year and he is not gonna want to stick around when Nash is close to being gone. He will be offered quite a bit of money and Phoenix never puts money down so I think he will be gone. In my opinion it would be better to get rid of Amare and bring someone who will play some D and is a better cover on forwards. Amare is a liability for the Suns as he is always in foul trouble and is just too arrogant. I agree that Kerr made some mistakes, but I think Suns could be a lot better with Sheed and they are built for now so why not get someone like Sheed or if Kerr wakes up he should get a few Bulls for Amare.
That in my opinion would be a horrible trade. Sheed is a great player but he doesn't have much mileage left on him, while Amare on the other hand still has some time left to be all star in this league. Kerr would temporarily be solving a problem which in a couple years he'd have an aging Shaq plus an aging Sheed. By the way, no matter who you are Duncan is a difficult cover. Shaq, Dirk, whoever you stick on him has problems, he's a nightmare match up for people. Mr. Fundamental is the best Power Forward to ever play the game. And if that trade were to, by the grace of God go through, it would help but not that much. Lakers bench is way to deep.
baldyguy
02-09-2009, 11:23 PM
I've been saying that for the past 2 years. I'd like to see the Cavs make some big moves if not by the trade deadline, but for sure in the off-season. I'm not knocking them for signing Mo Williams but would like to see them acquire a decent star.
The Cavs just need a 1 player that has some size and can hit mid-range jump shots when the game is on the line. The Lakers were giving the Cavs that shot but no one really took it. The Cavs offense is up and down but it will get better once Delonte West comes back.
xStriderx
02-10-2009, 01:01 AM
I've been saying that for the past 2 years. I'd like to see the Cavs make some big moves if not by the trade deadline, but for sure in the off-season. I'm not knocking them for signing Mo Williams but would like to see them acquire a decent star.
Yah, not to talk Mo William's... he's a great scorer but I think you guys needed a Mike Bibby type player. Someone who has had lots of playoff experience and would be a leader on the team and take the ball out of Lebrons hands and create plays. To bad you guys didn't pick him up before he went to ATL. I know he wanted to go to the Cav's to play with Lebron but the Cav's for some odd reason didn't pick him up.
Right now the Cav's resemble the Lakers a couple years ago when Kobe was handling the ball 80% of the time and having to create plays. History tells us you're star player can't do that all the time and win Championships. It happened with MiJ and KB.
tbakergobuck
02-10-2009, 07:15 AM
Yah, not to talk Mo William's... he's a great scorer but I think you guys needed a Mike Bibby type player. Someone who has had lots of playoff experience and would be a leader on the team and take the ball out of Lebrons hands and create plays. To bad you guys didn't pick him up before he went to ATL. I know he wanted to go to the Cav's to play with Lebron but the Cav's for some odd reason didn't pick him up.
Right now the Cav's resemble the Lakers a couple years ago when Kobe was handling the ball 80% of the time and having to create plays. History tells us you're star player can't do that all the time and win Championships. It happened with MiJ and KB.I don't think Bibby is all that much better then Mo Williams. If you compare there stats there about the same and Mo's salary is 8 million less. Also Mo is 26 and Bibby is 30. If you watched the Cavs vs Lakers game Lebron did a good job getting his teamates involved in the first half. Lebron sometimes waits till the 4th quarter to do his thing and sometimes that's to late. The reason why the Cavs lost that game is that they gave up way to many easy buckets which come playoff time I doubt that will happen. I still think the Cavs can win it all with the team they have now (if healthy) but they have to play 4 quarters. I just don't think Boston/Lakers/Spurs are all that much better then the Cavs and like I said before it's all about playing good in the playoffs (not now). Will see what happens.
xStriderx
02-10-2009, 03:53 PM
Bibby would have been a great pick up for Cavs.
As far as Amare and the Bulls thats a deal that alot of people are talking about but I don't think they will offer what Suns will want. Hinrich,Thomas,Noc n a pick maybe but thats alot to give up for 1 guy who is probably gonna leave in a year.
I also wonder if the Knicks plan on buying out Marbury or if they are gonna make him sit the rest of the season. I don't see why they would buy him out since right now he could go to a team like Orlando and put them right up there with Lakers/Celtics/Cavs since Nelson is out.
Yah, Bibby would have been great. ::sigh::
As for the Bulls trade, no comment. I'll hold my tongue on that one.
But the Knicks! Ugh, what the hell are they doing with Marbury. A lot of teams would love to pick him up and I'm sure he's itching to play now. If Orlando picked him up, that would automatically put them in the upper elite in the East, no doubt about that.
OR Marbury to Celtics and have him come off the bench as a 6th man to help there bench. That would move house down from the 1 spot and put him where he belongs in the 2 spot. Give them an extra 1, 2 punch.
xStriderx
02-10-2009, 04:01 PM
I don't think Bibby is all that much better then Mo Williams. If you compare there stats there about the same and Mo's salary is 8 million less. Also Mo is 26 and Bibby is 30. If you watched the Cavs vs Lakers game Lebron did a good job getting his teamates involved in the first half. Lebron sometimes waits till the 4th quarter to do his thing and sometimes that's to late. The reason why the Cavs lost that game is that they gave up way to many easy buckets which come playoff time I doubt that will happen. I still think the Cavs can win it all with the team they have now (if healthy) but they have to play 4 quarters. I just don't think Boston/Lakers/Spurs are all that much better then the Cavs and like I said before it's all about playing good in the playoffs (not now). Will see what happens.
Bibby in my opinion is a lot better then Mo Williams. He does a lot of intangibles that you don't see on the stat lines. Put it this way, before Derek Fisher came to the Lakers we were shopping around for a PG, we tried to take Bibby from the Kings but the management would'nt dare making a once rival team better so they denied the Lakers. Instead we picked up a solid vet PG in Fisher who has had experience and is a vocal leader. Instantly our team chemistry and championship chances went from good to excellent. the same could be said with Bibby, he's a great player with good experience that Mo Williams doesn't have. Look what he did for example with the Hawks, his presence did solidify them as a true playoff team contender.
If Bibby was on the Cav's I can guarantee it would still be Lebron's team but Bibby would be running the show on the court. Just like Derek does for the Lakers, Bibby does for the Hawks(Joe Smith being the man over there), and Chauncey Billups running things for Denver(Carmello being the man for that team). A solid PG with experience can do a lot for a team.
tbakergobuck
02-10-2009, 04:40 PM
Mo Williams only has 5 years in the league and Bibby has 10 so I would think Bibby would be better but I just don't think he's a lot better. If you watch the Cavs play every night you would see Mo is having a great season and he will only get better playing with Lebron.
bball1011
02-13-2009, 11:47 PM
Dang it, so much for the Marion/Beasley - Amare trade rumors!:mad:
tbakergobuck
03-21-2009, 05:34 PM
Mo Williams has definitely played better then Bibby when the Cavs play the Hawks. Mo has scored 20+ all four games.
tbakergobuck
03-21-2009, 06:14 PM
I'm pretty sure Mo Williams is having a better season then Bibby this year as far as stats, plus like I already said Mo is younger and his salary is less. I highly doubt Bibby would have helped the Cavs more then what Mo has done for the Cavs. That's my opinion and we can agree to disagree.
Just a suggestion but when you quote someone your supposed to reply after the quote.
tbakergobuck
03-21-2009, 07:15 PM
Well you xStriderx both said the Bibby is a lot better then Mo which I don't agree with. When Lebron goes out Mo takes over. Playoff experience is good but I doubt Mo will choke in the playoffs. Your right it doesn't really matter who's better but I'm just happy that Mo's play has improved the Cavs a lot.
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