One of the most ridiculous things I've heard regarding the Pre.

[laravia18]

Lately I have been looking at different youtube videos and everyone is talking about the Pre. Now there are always people with something negative to say. But just about every youtube video that I look at, the comments read that the Pre looks good but too bad that it's on Sprint.

First off of course it's on Sprint. Sprint usually gets the Palm phones first. Second I don't get that response because people switched to AT&T for the iPhone. AT&T in my experience is a network who has okay phones but crappy service. Third, I think it is the jealousy that has people saying things like that because Sprint could actually be given some good press due to the phone being on our network. Lastly, I know Sprint has its issues but Sprint has great things going for the network just like they all do. Does that mean that other companies don't deserve the great phone deals they score? Of course not. Competition is beautiful and healthy for our market that sells consumer goods. Don't feel threatened by a new device, look at it as an opportunity for your network to work out a deal with another phone creating company to come out with a better phone. JMO!

[tbot]

I agree completely! I know that service varies in different areas and yes people will have their preference, but come on. Sprint in my area is the best, and I've had all but verizon (i refuse to pay the ridiculous prices they have for everything).

I think it comes around to fanboys of the various carriers similar to apple fanboys. I can almost guarantee if the pre came out on their service they would be praising it.

Anyways enough said, lets just hope the release is soon and we can rub it in their faces haha!!!

[laursifer]

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I think you get 2 versions for comments like, "Too bad it's going to Sprint."



1) People who like the phone but are currently in contract with another carrier will say this because jumping ship for the phone would cost them money (ETF's). I don't think this is so much a jab at Sprint but more just a statement meaning, 'Bummer.'



2) Then you'll have your more ill-intentioned meaning where it is a jab at Sprint. Let's face it, Sprint has a somewhat poor reputation, made even worse when they brought over Nextel. Some people just don't like them, and that's fine by me.



I've seen comments like this where the meaning was made very clear, and these seem to be the 2 versions you see. The same comments were also made regarding AT&T with the iPhone. I'm sure some of the people who are attacking Sprint were once customers who were left with a very bitter taste in their mouths. This stuff happens across the board with all carriers. For me, Sprint is okay. I wouldn't say they're great--I consider myself a good customer and I am rewarded accordingly for that; my service is also excellent where I live. However, I also have to consider that I have an advantage over many customers, like many of us do here: we know where their weak points are and how to approach, handle or avoid them. I was reading this forum in the 1st week I joined Sprint. Had that not been the case, I may not have turned out to be the happy customer that I am (I can say with a generous amount of confidence that I'm pretty darn sure I wouldn't be).



Kind of sounds like I'm one of the ones attacking Sprint, and I very well could be. I think customer service is the weakest point they have, and it's just about the last place you want one in a company.

[laravia18]

Oh I certainly agree! I understand those not wanting to leave their company because of contract. I felt the same way about Sprint when phones I love were available for another carrier.

I didn't mean for it to sound like I had a problem with their opinion of Sprint, because there are serious customer service issues that need to be address. I guess what fuels me up is those who have obvious agendas by the way they word things but know their service isn't all that great either.

I've been a member since '04 but always forgot my membership here. I've had sprint for even long that that. This place is great and it really helps resolve my issues with the company when they arise. Sometimes I tend to vent so if I offended anyone with my post forgive me. I'm just a person who has learned the hard way no cellular company is perfect. Plus I hate the air of arrogance from people believing that Sprint doesn't deserve amazing phones because their company does.

[laursifer]

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No offense taken here at all. I didn't get the impression from your post that you had a problem with those commenters' opinions. I actually just liked the topic & was discussing it as well :) It's nice to have something to talk about regarding the Pre that's different. I feel like we've been talking about the same stuff since day one lol. This was a refreshing thread to read, IMO!

[laravia18]

I'm glad I was able to bring a new element to the discussion of the Pre. It is always nice to talk about new devices but it can be tiring reading the same thing over and over again.:)

[Eyecon82]

DUDE!! i totally agree

everytime someone says crap about sprint on HOFO or crackberry...i Just copy and paste my signature and they shut up right away!!

[laravia18]

^^
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That should give them something to think about.

[AllTeedUp]

Well Sprint is losing way more customers than the other carriers so I think the too bad it's on Sprint comments are valid. I'm happy cause I'm stuck with Sprint. I did say "too bad it's only for AT&T" about the iPhone. I like the deal I have with Sprint but I'm forced to roam in a major city just to get coverage which is crazy.

[johnny hotsauce]

I've been with Sprint for 5 years now and I couldn't be happier. I was with Nextel prior to Sprint aquiring them and my Nextel service was going downhill right before Sprint bought them so when I had the opportunity to switch to the CDMA side ETF free I thought I'd give it a shot before I just bailed in general. I've had every carrier except USCC prior to Sprint/Nextel and I just wasn't ready or willing to revisist those carriers again unless it was an absolute last resort (especially Verizon).

I will admit that pricing influenced my decision to try the Sprint side and I did have some hiccups during the first 6 months but after that was all worked out everything has been fine since.

I do have to admit that Sprint is a different company over the past year or so and a much better one IMO. Too bad that it's reputation precedes them and it's going to take a LOT of good word of mouth advertising for the general consumers to get over Sprint's bad past rep.

I'm no fan boy and I just like to go with what works best for me at a price I can live with which is why I stick it out with Sprint and for the past 5 years my coverage has been problem free, my billing has been right (for the most part..LOL) and customer service has never burned me (knock on wood). If things go the other direction then I'll look at alternatives but I don't see a need of doing that in the near future.

I really think the Pre is going to be a win on the Sprint network and for Sprint itself and especially if people will consider giving them a second chance they'll see a difference from the old Sprint that I completely agree was a bit less than desirable back in it's day.

[udratherbme]

I am glad i stuck in there as well, i had a time period when i was getting fed up with the overages and the dropped calls, then when you call you get ignorant CS that dont want to help, but i think that was solely the script... this is what you say to an irate customer, this is what you say to a calm customer... added on top of that it seemed like Sprint was behind the curve as far as technology, nothing ever really spectacular on the shelf, now if Palm is the answer, Sprint will rebound, and probably will have a lot of positives by the summer, caveat to that though is... NEXTEL is a Boat anchor that need to be dumped

[ame]

The only time I have ever made a comment saying "too bad it went to so and so" was against AT&T. iPhone and Bold I believe. I will NEVER patronize ATT again. EVER. For anything. They don't even get my home phone business. I went to a broadband phone plan to not use them. So when iPhone came to AT&T I immediately said "well then it's a POS because Jobs wasn't smart enough to go with a good provider. idiot". And this from an apple fangirl.

[chilidogtampa]

I understand the reasoning, among my friends and coworkers probably half have had sprint at one time and left, I can think of one co-worker with sprint now. yes even though its cheaper. why? just read some posts... remember the sidekick? a big hit, all the celebrities had one, how long was it til sprint got a side-sliding dumbphone? then it was the "rumor" with no EVDO...duh... its almost predictable that the newest, coolest, CDMA handsets will usually be on VZW... I love sprint because like eyecon posted above my plan is great but sprint has work to do if they want to shake this reputation... for lots of folks it is a dealbreaker.

[runagun]

It actually hurts peoples judgement about Sprint when u post ur plan. Ur reinforcing the idea that people have about Sprint. That u get wat u pay for(cheap, bad service/CS). If u wanna help sprint get that off ur sig and talk about the strengths (evdo,coverage,etc.) instead of price.



DUDE!! i totally agree

everytime someone says crap about sprint on HOFO or crackberry...i Just copy and paste my signature and they shut up right away!!

[Eyecon82]

It actually hurts peoples judgement about Sprint when u post ur plan. Ur reinforcing the idea that people have about Sprint. That u get wat u pay for(cheap, bad service/CS). If u wanna help sprint get that off ur sig and talk about the strengths (evdo,coverage,etc.) instead of price.


i disagree...how does a good plan reinforce bad CS? it reinforces good CS

[AmeriKenny]

DUDE!! i totally agree

everytime someone says crap about sprint on HOFO or crackberry...i Just copy and paste my signature and they shut up right away!!
The only problem with that is, who the hell knows what SERO, BIS, BES, PAM, and FIMF means? I'm starting to learn what SERO means just because I just started spending a lot of time on this message board. But for the common man, what do all those other things mean? I don't know how effective pasting your sig is going to be if people don't have a clue what those abbreviations stand for.

[Eyecon82]

that's your issue then :huh:....if you would simply google it...you'd know :ohcrap:

just because you don't know ..doesn't mean others don't.

SERO-sprint employee referral offer
BIS-blackberry internet service
BES-blackberry enterprise system
PAM-phone as modem
FIMF- first incoming minute free

all those terms besides SERO is a universal term to all carriers

don't be scared of the search button :thought:

[laursifer]

Yeah, on those forums, most frequent readers know what those acronyms stand for. For what that's worth lol.

[AmeriKenny]

Yeah, on those forums, most frequent readers know what those acronyms stand for. For what that's worth lol.
Yeah that may be true. :clap:

[gedansky]

I've heard the "too bad it's on Sprint!" comment as well. Sorry, it makes perfect sense it's on Sprint, or at least, on a CDMA network. CDMA is far faster than GSM/Edge, and always will be. And, despite their claims, Sprint actually has the best developed, and fastest, data network.

It has only been in recent years that Palm phones would go to Sprint. Historically, some of the coolest phones, including Palm phones, went to other networks first. The initial Treos right up to the 300 were all released on GSM networks months before making it to Sprint. The O2, one of the coolest initial releases of Windows Mobile, went to T-Mobile. T-Mobile! Come on! A few Palm based phones from Samsung and Kyocera, never even came to Sprint. The Blackberry is finally going 3G (I've had a 3G phone since they came out in what, 2002?) And, of course, the iPhone went to AT&T.

Now, let's talk about that for a moment. The iPhone (haters need not respond), Possibly the most exciting, and one of the most technologically advanced, best laid out, data-centric phones ever. A device that has become as iconic for phones as the iPod is for media players, is tethered to a slow, undeveloped, bottle necked wireless data network. You might as well buy the best, most expensive Alienware gaming laptop, and log on with a 56K dial up modem. This has been what I have seen happen to MOST of the cool phones of the past ten years. They start out on GSM, even though the tech screams for CDMA.

I've argued for years, that, GSM may have more real estate, but the parts of the world that are most data centric (Asia, and the US) use CDMA. So, the fact that Sprint is getting the next innovative, iconic PDA phone to hit the market, is not only fair, it's right and just!

[Eyecon82]

wow..a very well thought out response...maybe i'll paste that instead of my sig next time ;)

[d12a60n]

Great post Gedansky! Well said indeed. I love your analogy of the alienware on a dial-up connection. My analogy for the iPhone was "driving a Bugatti Veyron in the middle of New York traffic"

[Cheeko318]

I've heard the "too bad it's on Sprint!" comment as well. Sorry, it makes perfect sense it's on Sprint, or at least, on a CDMA network. CDMA is far faster than GSM/Edge, and always will be. And, despite their claims, Sprint actually has the best developed, and fastest, data network.

It has only been in recent years that Palm phones would go to Sprint. Historically, some of the coolest phones, including Palm phones, went to other networks first. The initial Treos right up to the 300 were all released on GSM networks months before making it to Sprint. The O2, one of the coolest initial releases of Windows Mobile, went to T-Mobile. T-Mobile! Come on! A few Palm based phones from Samsung and Kyocera, never even came to Sprint. The Blackberry is finally going 3G (I've had a 3G phone since they came out in what, 2002?) And, of course, the iPhone went to AT&T.

Now, let's talk about that for a moment. The iPhone (haters need not respond), Possibly the most exciting, and one of the most technologically advanced, best laid out, data-centric phones ever. A device that has become as iconic for phones as the iPod is for media players, is tethered to a slow, undeveloped, bottle necked wireless data network. You might as well buy the best, most expensive Alienware gaming laptop, and log on with a 56K dial up modem. This has been what I have seen happen to MOST of the cool phones of the past ten years. They start out on GSM, even though the tech screams for CDMA.

I've argued for years, that, GSM may have more real estate, but the parts of the world that are most data centric (Asia, and the US) use CDMA. So, the fact that Sprint is getting the next innovative, iconic PDA phone to hit the market, is not only fair, it's right and just!

I had my Alienware laptop hooked up to Sprint aircard for over a year before I tapped into works net. Simply because it was all that was available. Sprint is a great company but its not fastest and most developed everywhere. Before I got SERO I never would of stayed with Sprint I was constantly overcharged and ripped off every month for 2 years before my contract was up and went over to SERO. I must say though the everything plans they have available are a good deal and were not there before when I had problems.

As for the iphone...I have heard many problems with lockups and phone not working so it may not be as amazing as some claim. Tbh I have never had one but I have heard of many problems. It has the Apple name though so ppl will buy it. I personally do not see the appeal. I have 2 ipods and they dont work any better then an old random name mp3 player I had like 8 years ago. Its not that I am an apple hater I just do not see the all loving appeal that some ppl show to them.