NBA Almost Here

[Lakers4ItAll]

I can't wait for the NBA Season to start later this month!

Anyone else a HUGE fan?

[88jr]

Aaaa...sort of. Only because once NASCAR ends in November, the holidays carry me through early January. I look for a pick me up until NASCAR starts again in February. I lived in Cleveland when they drafted Lebron so a big Cavs fan...I hope they get at least one title with him.

[Lakers4ItAll]

Cavs better get some help before Lebron leaves for NY

[88jr]

Yeah yeah...I'll believe it when I see it. They got someone, I don't even know who...we'll see...

[2k4mach]

yup cant wait. already got tickets for the season opener here in san antonio.

although im not too sure how the spurs are going to do with no manu for a while.

[tbakergobuck]

The cavs got mo williams which he should help with scoring. lebron had a few bad games against boston in the playoffs last year againt boston and the cavs were still in every game. The Cavs should be better this season since they have more exspirence together. might go see a preeseason game when they play at the shot in columbus.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/maurice_williams/index.html?nav=page

[Lakers4ItAll]

I'm just happy Bynum is back healthy, with him Kobe and Gasol Lakers are gonna be tough.

[ahfrederick]

yup cant wait. already got tickets for the season opener here in san antonio.

although im not too sure how the spurs are going to do with no manu for a while.

Nice! I'd go to a Spurs game, especially if the Lakers were playing! haha, but yeah Manu has proven himself to be the MAN in SA! He is an awesome player and I give him credit! :tu:

The cavs got mo williams which he should help with scoring. lebron had a few bad games against boston in the playoffs last year againt boston and the cavs were still in every game. The Cavs should be better this season since they have more exspirence together. might go see a preeseason game when they play at the shot in columbus.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/maurice_williams/index.html?nav=page

Right on! Bron does need help. He's one of the best, but even MJ himself needed roll players to back him up. I wish the best for the Cavs this season, hope to PLAY you in the NBA finals! :tu:

I'm just happy Bynum is back healthy, with him Kobe and Gasol Lakers are gonna be tough.

TOUGH?!?! That's an understatement, we didn't have Bynum because of injury last season and we made it to the FINAL bro! Come on! With Bynum in the middle where we need him and Odom probably will play SF again,.. IF he doesn't get traded. LMAO! All in all, we'll be back in the Finals, and we'll win it this time around! :tu:

[Lakers4ItAll]

I'm all for trading Odom, I wanted Artest.

And I have a friend who Works for the Pacers so when the Lakers come in town he's getting me free tickets as close to courtside as possible!

[tbakergobuck]

Right on! Bron does need help. He's one of the best, but even MJ himself needed roll players to back him up. I wish the best for the Cavs this season, hope to PLAY you in the NBA finals! :tu:Your right. I think Jordan started winning Championships after he got Pippen/Kerr. I don't think I have ever started watching the NBA this early in the season. So far the Cavs haven't had a issue scoring points. They scored 40 points in the 4th quarter against the pacers the other night. Last night Lebron scored 41 for the second time this year against the Bulls. When Lebron is hitting his jump shot I don't think there's anyone in the NBA that can stop him. The Cavs have a lot of depth. It's a long season and hopefully the Cavs can get through the season without having to many injuries.

[88jr]

Your right. I think Jordan started winning Championships after he got Pippen/Kerr. I don't think I have ever started watching the NBA this early in the season. So far the Cavs haven't had a issue scoring points. They scored 40 points in the 4th quarter against the pacers the other night. Last night Lebron scored 41 for the second time this year against the Bulls. When Lebron is hitting his jump shot I don't think there's anyone in the NBA that can stop him. The Cavs have a lot of depth. It's a long season and hopefully the Cavs can get through the season without having to many injuries.

Yeah, injuries are huge...they don't seem to have too many players that are "injury prone." I don't know about Szerbiack(sp?). They got rid of hughes who missed like 1/3 of the games who ironicly is out with an injury in Chicago. I think the Cavs can win the East, make it to the finals but it's so hard to beat the top 2 or 3 teams out West.

[xStriderx]

Your right. I think Jordan started winning Championships after he got Pippen/Kerr. I don't think I have ever started watching the NBA this early in the season. So far the Cavs haven't had a issue scoring points. They scored 40 points in the 4th quarter against the pacers the other night. Last night Lebron scored 41 for the second time this year against the Bulls. When Lebron is hitting his jump shot I don't think there's anyone in the NBA that can stop him. The Cavs have a lot of depth. It's a long season and hopefully the Cavs can get through the season without having to many injuries.

Keyword: When/If

Lebron is very inconsistent with his jump shot. This is why he'll never be actually be held in the same tier as Jordan/Bryant. Plus, Lebron can't make free throws when they really count down the stretch.

[tbakergobuck]

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Your right. I think Jordan started winning Championships after he got Pippen/Kerr. I don't think I have ever started watching the NBA this early in the season. So far the Cavs haven't had a issue scoring points. They scored 40 points in the 4th quarter against the pacers the other night. Last night Lebron scored 41 for the second time this year against the Bulls. When Lebron is hitting his jump shot I don't think there's anyone in the NBA that can stop him. The Cavs have a lot of depth. It's a long season and hopefully the Cavs can get through the season without having to many injuries.

Keyword: When/If

Lebron is very inconsistent with his jump shot. This is why he'll never be actually be held in the same tier as Jordan/Bryant. Plus, Lebron can't make free throws when they really count down the stretch.

The scary thing about Lebron is that he's young and he get's better every year. Out the first 8 games I think Lebron has scored 41 points in 3 games which the only other player that has done that is Jordan. Lebron is a special player and he will probably win a few championships. I just hope that he wins one in Cleveland. lol

[ahfrederick]

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The scary thing about Lebron is that he's young and he get's better every year. Out the first 8 games I think Lebron has scored 41 points in 3 games which the only other player that has done that is Jordan. Lebron is a special player and he will probably win a few championships. I just hope that he wins one in Cleveland. lol

Hey guys. Sorry, I've been gone for quite sometime now. LMAO! But yeah, I have to agree. Bron is hella scary. You have to take into account, players like MJ, Magic, and Kobe. They've all done the same thing, LOSE early in their careers. But they have all overcome it with key "roll" players and have won many championships. And so will Bron, just wait. You'll see. :tu:

[88jr]

And so will Bron, just wait. You'll see. :tu:

Can this happen sooner, rather than later please?

[xStriderx]

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The scary thing about Lebron is that he's young and he get's better every year. Out the first 8 games I think Lebron has scored 41 points in 3 games which the only other player that has done that is Jordan. Lebron is a special player and he will probably win a few championships. I just hope that he wins one in Cleveland. lol

The problem with Lebron is, like I said above, he's not well versed in everything. The great thing about MJ and Kobe is there drive to have an all around game. Lebron seriously lacks in his free throws, post game, and perimeter shooting.

As for your little fact about only MJ and Lebron doing that, you're completely wrong. Several players in NBA history have scored 40 + points in 2 or 3 games. Only a few players have scored 40 plus points in 8 consecutive games; Wilt(1st), Kobe(2nd), MJ(3rd) and out of those three only two have scored 50 plus points in 4 games or more; Wilt and Kobe.

[tbakergobuck]

The problem with Lebron is, like I said above, he's not well versed in everything. The great thing about MJ and Kobe is there drive to have an all around game. Lebron seriously lacks in his free throws, post game, and perimeter shooting.

As for your little fact about only MJ and Lebron doing that, you're completely wrong. Several players in NBA history have scored 40 + points in 2 or 3 games. Only a few players have scored 40 plus points in 8 consecutive games; Wilt(1st), Kobe(2nd), MJ(3rd) and out of those three only two have scored 50 plus points in 4 games or more; Wilt and Kobe.I don't care that you think Lebron is not MJ or Kobe. lol Lebron has passing skills as good or better then Magic Johnson and he has hops like MJ plus he's built like a tank. He's a freak!! Like I said Lebron is getting better every season so stop hatin. :lol: As for the fact - There have been five 40-point games in the NBA this young season - three by James and only two by all the rest of the players in the league combined (Amar'e Stoudamire and Tony Parker). The last NBA player to reach the 40-point mark at least three times in his team's first eight games of a season was Michael Jordan in 1991. :wavey:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/elias?date=20081111#3697393
who does this remind you of. :hee:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIvAJOhKPbY

[xStriderx]

I stand corrected only because I got the context in which you were speaking incorrectly.

By the way, I'm not saying he's not good because he's not MJ or Kobe but because his game has not evolved all around yet. A few people say each year he keeps getting better which I will say is true but Barkley pointed out that when he improves in one category something else drops. Also, he hasn't learned to actually play his true PF position which will really kill him later on when he loses that athleticism. All I'm saying is the hype for LeBrone is a little to much. He's great but I wouldn't want him taking the last shot if I had a choice.

[tbakergobuck]

Did Kobe play great against Boston in the playoffs last year? :scratch: I think Lebron might have played better against Boston even though he shot bad the first two games. Most of the Laker fans thought Kobe was going to tear Boston up but I don't think that ever happened. You don't hear Lebron cheating on his wife or demanding a trade. As far as not wanting Lebron taking the last shot. Lebron has won more games then he has lost taking the last shot, not to many players can hit game winners every time. I know this is just one game two years ago but this is by far the best game in the Playoffs by one player I have ever seen. Lebron tore up the entire Piston team scoring 48 points 29 of the last 30 points for the Cavs winning game 5.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1Px-jPm_TU

[xStriderx]

First, in your attempt to defend Lebron you clearly used ad hominem's to attack Kobe, which I will simply ignore.

Secondly, not to many superstars have done well again the Celtics. Last year without a doubt they played the one of the best zone defenses in recent NBA history.
Boston led the league in regular-season defensive efficiency by a large margin at 96.2. Relative to the league, only two teams in the past 35 years were better defensively, the 2003-04 Spurs and the 1992-93 Knicks (see chart).

[88jr]

Did Kobe play great against Boston in the playoffs last year? :scratch: I think Lebron might have played better against Boston even though he shot bad the first two games. Most of the Laker fans thought Kobe was going to tear Boston up but I don't think that ever happened. You don't hear Lebron cheating on his wife or demanding a trade. As far as not wanting Lebron taking the last shot. Lebron has won more games then he has lost taking the last shot, not to many players can hit game winners every time. I know this is just one game two years ago but this is by far the best game in the Playoffs by one player I have ever seen. Lebron tore up the entire Piston team scoring 48 points 29 of the last 30 points for the Cavs winning game 5.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1Px-jPm_TU

Thanks for that link. I totally enjoyed watching that again. I remember that night...crazy! I'm with you man. I can't think of a player ever in the league that could talk the talk and walk the walk at age 23. Yikes!

[tbakergobuck]

The new Pistons gave the Lakers there first loss last night. Kobe went 12-30 from the floor. :td: The Lakers have dropped eight of their last 10 games against the Pistons.

[88jr]

And the Cavs are the hottest team in the league...6 straight wins. It's all tied up at the top of the Eastern conf. Tonight is going to be tough...Utah.

[xStriderx]

^Yah, Cavs are definitely hot right now. I must admit the addition of Mo Williams really helped that team. A lot of teams were trying to pick him up. He's a solid all around player and you can trust him with the ball in the last seconds of any game if need be.

[tbakergobuck]

Cavs are playing great together. Four Cavaliers in double figures and Lebron had 38 (missed his last 3-pointer). Get that week **** out of here Boozer. I'm glad that guy doesn't play for the Cavs. Start the playoffs tomorrow. lol

[88jr]

Cavs are playing great together. Four Cavaliers in double figures and Lebron had 38 (missed his last 3-pointer). Get that week **** out of here Boozer. I'm glad that guy doesn't play for the Cavs. Start the playoffs tomorrow. lol

I wish booz did still play for the cavs...imagine how good they'd be. Probably would have won 2 championships already. Anyway he sucks now and they have the most wins in the nba...tied with Boston!

[tbakergobuck]

I wish booz did still play for the cavs...imagine how good they'd be. Probably would have won 2 championships already. Anyway he sucks now and they have the most wins in the nba...tied with Boston!Boozer screwed the Cavs by saying he was going to stay then he took off for more money so f him. lol I don't see how any NBA player wouldn't want to play with one of the best players in the NBA. It's not like the guy was hurting financially. He might have made the Cavs better in the past but he has times when he struggles. I like the team we have now.

[2k4mach]

cavs are balling good.

i dont even know what to say about the hometown spurs

[xStriderx]

I wish booz did still play for the cavs...imagine how good they'd be. Probably would have won 2 championships already. Anyway he sucks now and they have the most wins in the nba...tied with Boston!

I'm confused? Who has the most wins in the NBA tied with Boston, the Cavs?

Anyways, if the Boozer still played for the Cavs, they would be a force to be reckoned with. The guy is a solid all-star who doesn't concern himself with points but will do all the little things you need done to get the win.

[xStriderx]

cavs are balling good.

i dont even know what to say about the hometown spurs

lol! You should know by now that the Spurs have been doing this for the past 3 maybe even four years now. They start off just okay and sometimes sub par then as the season progresses, especially after allstar break they start to look like a whole other team.

[tbakergobuck]

I forget where I heard it but the Cavs talked about getting Chris Bosh. Now if the Cavs got him that would be a great team. I'm not saying Boozer sucks but he's up and down. After 5 years the Cav fans still boo Boozer. lol

Boozer still fuels Cavaliers fans' ire
http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/122682795286160.xml&coll=2&thispage=1

[88jr]

I'm confused? Who has the most wins in the NBA tied with Boston, the Cavs?

Yeah, they both have 8 wins, 2 loses. 8 wins are the most by any team.

Actually I just looked and Boston now has 9 wins...dang it!

[tbakergobuck]

Cavs didn't play a good 1st half last night but dominated the 2nd half blowing out the Nets by 24. Cavs were 10-17 shooting 3's. That was crazy when LeBron came from 20 feet behind the track down the Nets point guard Harris, forcing him to rush a dunk that the high-flying James blocked.

Cleveland Cavaliers superstar LeBron James replaced Kobe Bryant on Tuesday as the youngest player in NBA history to score 11,000 points. James (23 years, 324 days) reached the plateau with a wide-open jump shot set up by a great crossover dribble late in the first quarter of the Cavaliers' game with the New Jersey Nets. He came into the game with 10,987 points. Bryant of the Los Angeles Lakers was 25 years, 99 days when he reached 11,000 points.

Cavs play the Pistons tonight so that should be a good game.

[xStriderx]

Cavs didn't play a good 1st half last night but dominated the 2nd half blowing out the Nets by 24. Cavs were 10-17 shooting 3's. That was crazy when LeBron came from 20 feet behind the track down the Nets point guard Harris, forcing him to rush a dunk that the high-flying James blocked.

Cleveland Cavaliers superstar LeBron James replaced Kobe Bryant on Tuesday as the youngest player in NBA history to score 11,000 points. James (23 years, 324 days) reached the plateau with a wide-open jump shot set up by a great crossover dribble late in the first quarter of the Cavaliers' game with the New Jersey Nets. He came into the game with 10,987 points. Bryant of the Los Angeles Lakers was 25 years, 99 days when he reached 11,000 points.

Cavs play the Pistons tonight so that should be a good game.

Yah, one of the reasons why David Stern changed the NBA draft rules by requiring kids to play at least one year of college. It seems every talented kid you skips college and comes straight from High School breaks some record that was set by a legit legend. It kind of skews the stats when the kid has a 4 - 5 years start on people like MJ, Larry & Magic.

[88jr]

Yah, one of the reasons why David Stern changed the NBA draft rules by requiring kids to play at least one year of college. It seems every talented kid you skips college and comes straight from High School breaks some record that was set by a legit legend. It kind of skews the stats when the kid has a 4 - 5 years start on people like MJ, Larry & Magic.

True and a good rule. Don't you think players are hanging it up sooner than they used to? Maybe not, would be an interesting thing to see retirement ages over the years.

[xStriderx]

True and a good rule. Don't you think players are hanging it up sooner than they used to? Maybe not, would be an interesting thing to see retirement ages over the years.

Don't know. We can only tell with this new generation when they retire. Kobe, KG, A.I, etc. They all have a lot of miles on them


Cavs lost to the Pistons tonight. I knew that A.I trade would pay off. I'm not sure if it was this thread or another forum but I said that the A.I trade was made to negate Lebron. They needed a big time superstar which if the team was stuck in the 4th quarter could turn things on like Lebron and score like mad. Though A.I didn't have to do that this game.

1 Celtics
2 Pistons
3 Cavs/Magic

[88jr]

Don't know. We can only tell with this new generation when they retire. Kobe, KG, A.I, etc. They all have a lot of miles on them


Cavs lost to the Pistons tonight. I knew that A.I trade would pay off. I'm not sure if it was this thread or another forum but I said that the A.I trade was made to negate Lebron. They needed a big time superstar which if the team was stuck in the 4th quarter could turn things on like Lebron and score like mad. Though A.I didn't have to do that this game.

1 Celtics
2 Pistons
3 Cavs/Magic

Yeah, I wasn't sure about AI. He's always been pretty selfish but so far he seems to be fitting in good. How about the East vs. West. I was reading something that the East's winning percentage over the west was like 65% or something. Things look the opposite of what they've been over the last several years with the Celtics, Pistons, and Cavs in the East.

[tbakergobuck]

Cavs lost to the Pistons tonight. I knew that A.I trade would pay off. I'm not sure if it was this thread or another forum but I said that the A.I trade was made to negate Lebron. They needed a big time superstar which if the team was stuck in the 4th quarter could turn things on like Lebron and score like mad. Though A.I didn't have to do that this game.

1 Celtics
2 Pistons
3 Cavs/MagicThe Cavs played a great 1st half but didn't play a good 2nd half. I was surprised the Cavs didn't knock the Pistons out in the 3rd Quarter since they have been playing better in that Quarter. I don't understand why Brown took out Big Ben and Zeek because they were blocking shots in the first half. Lebron didn't play all that great and the Cavs lost by 7. The Pistons shot lights out in the 4th Quarter which you live and die by the 3-pointer. I think it's way to early in the season to predict anything. Every Piston fan I know didn't like the A.I trade.

[xStriderx]

Pistons didn't like the trade because it broke up a team that won them a Championship and sent away a good player who was respected in the community and by the fans. However, NBA analysts said it was a great trade because with that prior lineup they were never going to get out of the Eastern Conference Finals. They needed to change something desperately to compete with the Celtics, they basically needed someone who will draw double teams. Plus, it free's up some cap space next year if they decide to get rid of Iverson.

[tbakergobuck]

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I understand that but Billups and the Nuggets are doing well to. I guess it's a win for both teams so far. So your a Piston fan?

[xStriderx]

No, 100% Lakers fan.

I just know a good trade when I see one! =)

[tbakergobuck]

I should have known that you liked the Lakers after the Kobe talk. Will see how good A.I. and the Pistons are after playing back to back games when they play Boston tonight.

[xStriderx]

Yah, tonight we'll see how well they do. This is the Easter Conference Match up right here, so expect the guys to play as if their lives depend on it. Right now, I still think the Celts are the best team in the East though but it will be a very close game.

Lakers vs Suns tonight! Gasol and Bynum vs the Big Aristotle. I predict Lakers trouncing these guys as long as they can keep Barbosa from scoring.

[tbakergobuck]

The season's early surprises, from 1-15
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=surprises-081120

[xStriderx]

So, I gotta ask. Who's everyone's pick for MVP so far?

[tbakergobuck]

Lebron is looking good but I know you don't like him or think he's a great player.

[xStriderx]

No, I just don't like him but I think he's a great player.


After 05', 06' season though, I can't honestly give the MVP to the best individual player in the league. With those two seasons oddly enough, the criteria that we typically judged on changed. It went from best individual player to best individual player on the best team in the league.

[tbakergobuck]

So who is your pick for MVP so far? Kobe?

[xStriderx]

Kobe, KG, Paul Peirce, and even Pau Gasol

[tbakergobuck]

Kobe, KG, Paul Peirce, and even Pau GasolGasol is to soft. As said in the NBA power rankings week 4 Here's a LeBron question that has nothing to do with 2010 for a change: What are his MVP odds if Kobe keeps averaging 33-ish minutes per game and LBJ keeps the Cavs on this 63-19 pace with all his crazy numbers?

[tbakergobuck]

A good article. Read it all. Just four weeks into the season, we're down to six contenders for the 2009 NBA title: Cleveland, Boston, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Utah and San Antonio. The first three are the favorites; the second three are the long shots. And they have one thing common. Reps.

2. Why don't more people realize that the Cavs, already really good, will be even better three months from now?

In the NBA, and life, it's all about getting your reps
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/081126&sportCat=nba

[xStriderx]

Gasol is to soft. As said in the NBA power rankings week 4 Here's a LeBron question that has nothing to do with 2010 for a change: What are his MVP odds if Kobe keeps averaging 33-ish minutes per game and LBJ keeps the Cavs on this 63-19 pace with all his crazy numbers?

Gasol has been the leading offensive scorer. He's one of the main reasons that the Lakers are winning games and the main reason why kobe isn't having to play 39plus minutes.

And to answer your question; I'm quite confident Kobe's minutes will go up after All-Star break(second half of season). Last year up until the second half of the season people had Chris Paul as MVP till Kobe turned it up a notch. Just as the Spurs did too. But to answer your question directly, if Kobe doesn't turn it up then I can say Lebron has the title but Kobe has fresh legs for playoffs.

[xStriderx]

A good article. Read it all. Just four weeks into the season, we're down to six contenders for the 2009 NBA title: Cleveland, Boston, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Utah and San Antonio. The first three are the favorites; the second three are the long shots. And they have one thing common. Reps.

2. Why don't more people realize that the Cavs, already really good, will be even better three months from now?

In the NBA, and life, it's all about getting your reps
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/081126&sportCat=nba

I don't why people have not figured this out but the Spurs every year start off sub par. They seem to get better as the year ends and always end up in the 2 or 3 spot in the west. So I wouldn't put them as long shots just yet.

Why people don't give the Cavs their respect is because I haven't seen anything consistent yet. I saw them to get to the finals during a year when some people argue the east was pretty weak compared to the west. And this year they started out great just like the Hornets did last year and look where they are at now. The Hornets are definitely not the same team we saw last year and there was nothing taken away from them. Hell, the Warriors upset the Mav's that one year and the Clippers even got into the playoffs that one yet. One more year of getting into the finals and they get that rep that Cleveland fans so badly want them to have.

[tbakergobuck]

Lebron isn't playing as much as last year either so his legs will be fine come playoff time. I think the reason why he's starting out great this year is because of playing in the Olympics.

The Spurs aren't the same team they use to be but there still good. It's a long season and really it's way to early to be talking this much NBA. :lol:

[MsRandall]

Lebron can have the MVP, he is playing like be a beast right now ... I want a championship for the Lakers and Kobe....

Gasol played soft in the finals last year because he wasnt playing his position- he aint a center.. now that he is at his normal position, he is giving the lakers a lift.

[xStriderx]

Lebron can have the MVP, he is playing like be a beast right now ... I want a championship for the Lakers and Kobe....

Gasol played soft in the finals last year because he wasnt playing his position- he aint a center.. now that he is at his normal position, he is giving the lakers a lift.

When you put it that way, I guess I don't mind Kobe losing the MVP race as long as he gets a Championship. MVP's mean nothing if you don't get that ring to go with it.

[xStriderx]

By the way, has anyone heard this buzz about Shaq leaving the Suns when his contract is up and coming back to the Lakers to play one more season and retire a Laker?

Crazy huh?

[tbakergobuck]

I think everyone that's has a favorite NBA team would rather there team win a Championship more then anything else.

I didn't think the Warriors were ever going to miss last night but the Cavs shot well to and pulled away in the 3rd. Man I love watching Lebron play. He's such a explosive player. He didn't have to play at all in the 4th last night. Cavs got some easy games ahead of them and hopefully they keep playing hard.

I don't see shaq going back to LA. If him and Kobe got along they would have won a few more rings.

[88jr]

By the way, has anyone heard this buzz about Shaq leaving the Suns when his contract is up and coming back to the Lakers to play one more season and retire a Laker?

Crazy huh?

I want him to retire in Orlando, with Penny Hardaway, Nick Anderson, Dennis Scott, and Horace Grant. That was my favorite starting 5 ever!

[tbakergobuck]

88jr - did you see the Cavs vs Denver game Friday night? Man the Cavs couldn't miss in the 1st half and Ilgauskas looked good after being out for a bit. Lebron was hitting his fade away and shut down Anthony again. What do you think about the talk about trading Wally and getting Vince Carter or Antawn Jamison?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-081220-21

[88jr]

88jr - did you see the Cavs vs Denver game Friday night? Man the Cavs couldn't miss in the 1st half and Ilgauskas looked good after being out for a bit. Lebron was hitting his fade away and shut down Anthony again. What do you think about the talk about trading Wally and getting Vince Carter or Antawn Jamison?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-081220-21

I did see the highlights. I have the game on my DVR. We had our 3rd child that afternoon so I missed it! But, he was at his element. I saw 2 or 3 sweet fadeaway long jumpers...nothing but net, amazing. When he's feeling it, look out, he can hit from anywhere and is unstoppable. I'm glad Z and Boobie are back...that was scarey. What's with Z and 3's? He's hit several this year...trying to be like Rasheed Wallace...

[tbakergobuck]

I did see the highlights. I have the game on my DVR. We had our 3rd child that afternoon so I missed it! But, he was at his element. I saw 2 or 3 sweet fadeaway long jumpers...nothing but net, amazing. When he's feeling it, look out, he can hit from anywhere and is unstoppable. I'm glad Z and Boobie are back...that was scarey. What's with Z and 3's? He's hit several this year...trying to be like Rasheed Wallace...congrats on the baby. lol at the Wallace comment. I wonder if the Pistons are regretting the Billups/Iverson trade?

[Lakers4ItAll]

I doubt it since AI contract comes off the books at the end of the season

congrats on the baby. lol at the Wallace comment. I wonder if the Pistons are regretting the Billups/Iverson trade?

[xStriderx]

I doubt it since AI contract comes off the books at the end of the season

Supposedly I heard the reason A.I made this trade was to work his way back to Phily and retire there. That's word on the street out here in L.A... heh.

[xStriderx]

Ahh, the Lakers beat the Celts!

They may not have the best record in the league but today they proved they are the best team in the league!

[88jr]

I was also glad to see that even though I hate the Lakers. That pulls my Cavs to one game behind Boston. Ironicly, that one game is the one they lost to the Celts. Oh well. All this talk about how great the Celts have been this year...give me a break. The Cavs are there baby!

[tbakergobuck]

It's a long season and it really doesn't matter who the best NBA team is right now. It's better to be peaking/playing good ball during the playoffs. The Cavs got a ugly win tonight and there still the only undefeated NBA team at home.

[xStriderx]

It's a long season and it really doesn't matter who the best NBA team is right now. It's better to be peaking/playing good ball during the playoffs. The Cavs got a ugly win tonight and there still the only undefeated NBA team at home.

Pssshhh! Cav's only have a winning record at home because they haven't played any tough teams at home yet.

There are only two teams they've played at home that are good and those teams were lacking their major players, Utah and Houston. Utah, was missing Deron Williams(enough said) and Houston just got back Tracy Mcgrady from his injury and only scored 4 points(probably wasn't even healed yet).

[tbakergobuck]

Pssshhh! Cav's only have a winning record at home because they haven't played any tough teams at home yet.

There are only two teams they've played at home that are good and those teams were lacking their major players, Utah and Houston. Utah, was missing Deron Williams(enough said) and Houston just got back Tracy Mcgrady from his injury and only scored 4 points(probably wasn't even healed yet).True but if you don't show up and execute your game plan then any team can win. Like last night the Cavs didn't play good against the Wizards but they found a way to win which they didn't do last year. Also the Cavs had some injuries as well during during the winning streak at home. I'm looking forward to the 9th when Boston comes to Cleveland.

[88jr]

[QUOTE=xStriderx;2017289]Pssshhh! Cav's only have a winning record at home because they haven't played any tough teams at home yet. QUOTE]

Well, when you're 25-4, and only Boston has a better record, aren't all teams easy teams!?

[xStriderx]

[QUOTE=xStriderx;2017289]Pssshhh! Cav's only have a winning record at home because they haven't played any tough teams at home yet. QUOTE]

Well, when you're 25-4, and only Boston has a better record, aren't all teams easy teams!?

lol. No. They've definitely been blessed so far with an easy schedule at home. No teams like Spurs, Hornets, Suns, Lakers, Pistons, Celtics, Mavs, etc. Instead they've played IND, OKC, MIL, GSW, NYK, and of course WAS.

[tbakergobuck]

xStriderx - So you don't think the Cavs are good and they won't beat the good teams at home? :scratch: You did see the playoffs last year right?

[xStriderx]

I think the Cav's are good but I don't think they'll keep up their home record once some West teams actually play in the arena. Let's face it, the East is still weak and if I remember correctly last year the east and some teams with losing records in the playoffs just like they'll most likely have again this year. It's not that hard to get to the finals in the East if you're a good team.

[xStriderx]

by the way Celts lose to the 8-22 Warriors today... ouch!

[james2K]

I'm sick of watching the Pistons lose or win nail biters against bad teams. I hope that with Iverson in the mix they will be a better playoff team than how they've played so far this year. but its a long season and there is time to get better.

[xStriderx]

That trade was basically made to negate Lebron James come Playoff time and to free up cap space at the end of his contract. I don't see it paying off immediately but I'm sure in the end it will help.

[tbakergobuck]

not that rankings mean that much especially now but SI has

1. Cavs
2. Lakers
3. Magic
4. Boston
5. Spurs

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/chris_mannix/12/29/power.rankings/index.html?eref=T1

espn rankings

1. Lakers
2. Boston
3. Cavs
4. Magic
5. Spurs

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/powerranking?season=2009&week=9&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos1

[xStriderx]

There is reason SI is no longer regarded as a credible sports information magazine, hence it's subcription loss in the last couple years. =)

How could they put the Cav's above the Celtics. The Cav's who have had trouble putting away their last 4 games with poor play. Not to mention the Cav's still haven't beaten Celts this year and the Celts are the world Champions. Honestly, the fact that they are the Champions alone warrants at least a number two spot but 4?!? WoW, even I give the Celts more respect then that.

[tbakergobuck]

Boston did lose back to back games and the Warriors are 9-22. I could care less who's ranked # 1 or #2 etc as long as the Cavs are winning. The last 4 or 5 games the Cavs offense hasn't been hitting wide open shots like they were when they were beating teams by 15+. I can't believe how bad the officiating is tonight in the Cavs vs Heat game.

[xStriderx]

Good game between Miami and Cav's. Wade really trusted his team in the fourth with some big shots. Him showing confidence that he didn't have to take over will do a lot for a young team like Miami.

[xStriderx]

Boston did lose back to back games and the Warriors are 9-22. I could care less who's ranked # 1 or #2 etc as long as the Cavs are winning. The last 4 or 5 games the Cavs offense hasn't been hitting wide open shots like they were when they were beating teams by 15+. I can't believe how bad the officiating is tonight in the Cavs vs Heat game.

I don't think the officiating was bad. Bad officiating is when they make a bad call and don't correct it, tonight's game I saw the officals frequently meet up with each other to correct the call if there was some confusion.

[tbakergobuck]

Good game between Miami and Cav's. Wade really trusted his team in the fourth with some big shots. Him showing confidence that he didn't have to take over will do a lot for a young team like Miami.Even though the Cavs played a crappy 1st half they battled back from 16 points down. The Heat were on fire shooting 3's (11-18). Miami is a lot better team this year since Wade is healthy.
I don't think the officiating was bad. Bad officiating is when they make a bad call and don't correct it, tonight's game I saw the officals frequently meet up with each other to correct the call if there was some confusion.Let's just make one thing clear. I'm not blaming the officiating for the loss but even the announcers were questioning some of the calls (both ways). The heat just made more shots and I don't remember Cook every making those shots when he was a Buckeye. lol Did you watch the entire game?

1. A official called a charged then changed his mind to a block. :lol:
2. there was a inverted whistle.
3. There was a ball that clearly hit a player that was out of bounds.
4. Two or three other calls like you said the officials came together which to me seems like they just don't want to make a call
5. There was a player that got knocked down but no call either way

[king_koopa]

How bad was it when my Rockets lost to the Wizards last night? my tv will never forgive me for teaching it the whole "cuss dictionary"

[88jr]

Boston did lose back to back games and the Warriors are 9-22. I could care less who's ranked # 1 or #2 etc as long as the Cavs are winning. The last 4 or 5 games the Cavs offense hasn't been hitting wide open shots like they were when they were beating teams by 15+. I can't believe how bad the officiating is tonight in the Cavs vs Heat game.

Seriously...what was up with those officials, they must be like high school officials! They had to consult with each other like 4 different times and on a couple of occasians, one called charging, the other called blocking...lol!

Yeah, rankings don't really matter. I can see Cavs or Celts at #1. Lakers for sure #3, and Magic sort of a distant #4. Behind that...everyone pretty much sucks.

[xStriderx]

How bad was it when my Rockets lost to the Wizards last night? my tv will never forgive me for teaching it the whole "cuss dictionary"

That definitely sucks! I knew Houston was going fuzz out. They always seem to dissapoint no matter how much talent they have.

Anyways, Portland beat Celtics witout BRoy! What a good game. L.A and Oden are beasts in the middle. Give Portland a couple more years and I see them winning championships.

[xStriderx]

Seriously...what was up with those officials, they must be like high school officials! They had to consult with each other like 4 different times and on a couple of occasians, one called charging, the other called blocking...lol!

Yeah, rankings don't really matter. I can see Cavs or Celts at #1. Lakers for sure #3, and Magic sort of a distant #4. Behind that...everyone pretty much sucks.

I don't think everyone behind #4 sucks. You got Spurs, Nuggets and my other team Portland which are doing okay but I can see them improving during the later half of the year. I have a feeling Celtics will lose a couple more games as the continue their trip out West and Cavs to once they come this way.

[88jr]

I don't think everyone behind #4 sucks. You got Spurs, Nuggets and my other team Portland which are doing okay but I can see them improving during the later half of the year. I have a feeling Celtics will lose a couple more games as the continue their trip out West and Cavs to once they come this way.

Yeah...I suppose they don't suck. I just don't see any team being able to beat LA, Boston, and Cleveland in a series...right now anyway.

[tbakergobuck]

Thought that was funny when Portland had 6 players on the court and Garnett started yelling at the officials then Portland scored. They couldn't take the basket away.

[xStriderx]

Thought that was funny when Portland had 6 players on the court and Garnett started yelling at the officials then Portland scored. They couldn't take the basket away.

That was sooo funny! I was laughing so hard even Oden was on the bench smiling because they got 2 points for it! lol! Doc Rivers on the side was pissed.

[tbakergobuck]

Cavs lost to the Wizzards and Boston lost to the Knicks. :lol:

[88jr]

Cavs lost to the Wizzards and Boston lost to the Knicks. :lol:

That's twice now the Cavs and Celtics have both lost on the same night to sucky teams. I guess, neither are too serious about winning the east...geez! So much for any team getting to 70 wins!

[xStriderx]

^Hah! Make that three times now! =)

Seriously though, what just happened tonight?

Cavs lost...to the Wiz?!?

Celtics lost...to the Knicks?!?

Magic lost to the Raptors?!?

At least the Lakers beat the Trail Blazers!

[tbakergobuck]

Cavs, Boston and Magic all played away. They all probably thought it was going to be another easy win. Lakers played at home and Portland didn't have Brandon Roy.

[xStriderx]

1.) It' doesn't matter if you play away. They lost to extremely bad teams.
2.) Portland without a Brandon Roy also beat the Celts.

[tbakergobuck]

1.) It' doesn't matter if you play away. They lost to extremely bad teams.
2.) Portland without a Brandon Roy also beat the Celts.Lakers lost to a bad team as well, (Pacers). The league is tough, if you don't come to play any team can beat anyone.

Portland beat Boston without Brandon Roy on there home court not away.

[ChicagoSU]

BOS lost again to CHA tonight and LAL lost to NO

BOS hasn't been playing well lately.

[bball1011]

Wow Boston lost to the Bobcats. Looks like the loss to the Lakers really got to them on Christmas Day as they've been losing a lot since then.

[88jr]

Yeah...holy crap, who would guess a team with only 2 losses would go and drop 5 of 7!?

But HEY! The CAVS are NUMBER 1 baby! Only because everyone else is loosing more. How about the Magic, they're sneaking right up on these guys.

[tbakergobuck]

Pistons have won 7 in a row. Some of those wins are by a few points but they wern't winning those games earlier in the season. Cavs and Boston have cooled off but they'll be fine.

[ChicagoSU]

BOS is still the Champs and by losing maybe it has taken some pressure off them.

[tbakergobuck]

Maybe Boston is trying to lose 19 in a row now. :lol:

ESPN guy just said Lebron looked like a Kangaroo because he jumped so high shooting a jump shot. :lol: They said Lebron seemed mad tonight playing the Bobcats after his crab dribble travel call against the Wizzards the other night.

[xStriderx]

Maybe Boston is trying to lose 19 in a row now. :lol:

ESPN guy just said Lebron looked like a Kangaroo because he jumped so high shooting a jump shot. :lol: They said Lebron seemed mad tonight playing the Bobcats after his crab dribble travel call against the Wizzards the other night.

Why would he be mad? The man traveled and for once got caught. I wish the refs would call that more often.

[ChicagoSU]

BOS lost again ton! I'm loving it! Lakers won tho!

[88jr]

BOS lost again ton! I'm loving it! Lakers won tho!

Whoo...whoooo! There for a couple of hours until the Lakers won and became tied with Cleveland again, the Cavs had the best record in the NBA since 1989...wow, 20 years!

[tbakergobuck]

Why would he be mad? The man traveled and for once got caught. I wish the refs would call that more often.I don't think Lebron was mad the espn guy was just messing around because Lebron was tearing up the Bobcats team. There's a lot of missed traveling and palming calls but personally I can't stand when the refs are whistle happy and slow the game down. :td:

Paul Pierce said that the Cavs will be ready to play Boston tomorrow night and that it would be a game to change things around for Boston. Will see about that.

[tbakergobuck]

Lebron is unbelievable. Go Cavs! 19-0 at home. Hack a Ben didn't work that well and that was awesome when Lebron hit the half court shot even though it didn't count.

[88jr]

Oh my gosh...hack a Ben...come on Doc! That was the lamest thing I've ever seen in the NBA. He went 5-10 from the line...nice! That half court shot by Lebron should have counted!

Sweet win, Celtics sucking so bad it didn't seem like the game I was all jacked up before. They're like the 10th best team right now. Oh well, I'll take it. Cavs are doing great! Long road trip coming up...at least they have a 2 game lead in the East.

[bball1011]

Amazed at how good Lebron's defense is. The guy is unstoppable offensively and the Celtics admit they can't stop him is even more amazing. If the season was over today, I'd pick Lebron as the league's MVP.

[xStriderx]

What the hell happened to the Celts tonight?!?! That definitely was not the game I was looking forward too. It's almost as if the team didn't even show up. What's going on with the Celts!?! What happened to Paul Pierce tonight? It's as if he didn't want o play or something. The Truth, is a lot better then that. But whatever, a win is a win. I think the win would have meant more of the Cav's if the Celts came to play but a win is a win.

By the way, Lebron and Kobe had amazing nights tonight.

Kobe Bryant: 36 pts, 13 ast, 7 reb
Lebron James: 38 pts, 6 ast, 7 reb

[tbakergobuck]

Amazed at how good Lebron's defense is. The guy is unstoppable offensively and the Celtics admit they can't stop him is even more amazing. If the season was over today, I'd pick Lebron as the league's MVP.Lebron pre game credited MacMillan for his improvement on defense during the Olympics. It's amazing seeing Lebron running full speed sacrificing his body to get a block. That one play when Lebron did a spin around the three point line to get around Rondo then Allen came flying in, Lebron just muscled it in with his left was sweet. I think after that the fans started saying "MVP MVP". What cracks me up is pre grame Avery Johnson said Lebron needs to work on his 3-point shot. He was 3-7 last night and 9-9 from the line. This morning on ESPN Avery Johnson said Boston is still the best team. lol :scratch:

[bball1011]

Avery is just silly. They just got him on ESPN cuz of that funny voice of his. One game I can't wait to watch for is the Lakers and Cavs next month. That is gonna be awesome to watch Kobe and Lebron go at it. One play that really stood out for me was when Lebron cut to the basket and got a pass for a two handed dunk in the 1st quarter. All the Celtics could do was just get out of his way and watch. I love it!!

[xStriderx]

Avery is not the only one who believes Celtics are still the best team in the league. I still think that the Celts are the best despite losing to Lakers and the Cav's. Like I said, that win yesterday would have been a lot more convincing if the Celts had brought their "A" game like they had the Lakers. The fact that you guys beat a struggling Celts means nothing to people like Avery Johnson, Coach Van Gundy, and Mark Jackson who all repeated the same rhetoric that the Celtics are the best. I can guarantee the Cav's won't be playing that same Celtics team that showed up yesterday come playoff time.

[88jr]

We smoked them...and it was without a starter...Z. Everyone had to step up. We were missing something like 15 pts per game right there, had be been

I agree with you to a point, the Cavs didn't beat the real Celtics. The win over Boston does not make the Cavs the best team in the east, it's the fact that the Celtics have lost like 6 of 8. How can you be considered the best team in the NBA when you've played like that over your last several games. The best team has to play like the best team, to be considered the best team.

[tbakergobuck]

I'm not saying that Boston won't have a chance to repeat but as of now ti think there the 4th best team in the NBA. The Cavs didn't have Ilgauskas last night and they played two good quarters (1st and 4th). Cavs game up a fair share of layups which helped Boston stay in the game. Come playoff time I doubt the Cavs give up easy scores like that. Looking forward to the 19th when the Cavs go to LA.

[xStriderx]

^Yah, I think everyone is now looking forward to the Cav's vs Lakers game. I know I'm looking forward to that game. Can't wait for the Lakers to give a spanking to Cav's. ;)

By the way, if Big Z is still out when they play them and lose I don't want to hear anyone saying they were missing him because you guys "beat" Boston without him. =)


Drunk post.. hpe it makes sense.

[88jr]

Drunk post.. hpe it makes sense.

Nice disclaimer!

[tbakergobuck]

I know it was just Memphis but another great game from Lebron last night which the Cavs needed since they didn't have Wallace or Ilgauskas . Lebron got his 10 assist for his triple-double with a behind the back pass. lol Once again James hustled down the court and blocked a lay up which he's done I think 9 times this year.

[ChicagoSU]

Great game between Lakers/Spurs last night. Kobe should have kept the ball for the last shot. And that wasn't a travel on Ariza, but oh well

[xStriderx]

I didn't get to watch the game but once again the Spurs stepped up when it matters.

[tbakergobuck]

It looked like Mason kicked his leg up so they shouldn't have called a foul on Fisher. I hate when a game in decided on a whistle but I couldn't see if Ariza traveled or not.

Hornets could be a tough game tomorrow night at home against the Cavs. The Cavs are only the 10th team to go 19-0 at home. Hopefully I didn't jinx them. lol

[88jr]

Delonte West - fractured wrist - CRAP! Bad time for that to happen. I'm so bummed. With Z out and West, they're down 2 starters man. They were up like 13 early in the first tonight and ended up loosing in OT. Ok for now, still have best record, but man, they were really rolling I hate to see injuries.

[tbakergobuck]

Yea I'm bummed to because Delonte West was playing great ball but I guess it could have been a lot worse since he practically landed on his head. That was goal tending on the Bulls and not a blocking foul on Lebron towards the end of the game. I guess Lebron wasn't feeling good and it showed. It's hard to beat a team 4 times in a year. This next few weeks is going to be tough if the Cavs don't get any players to step up when the starters are down.

[88jr]

Yea I'm bummed to because Delonte West was playing great ball but I guess it could have been a lot worse since he practically landed on his head. That was goal tending on the Bulls and not a blocking foul on Lebron towards the end of the game. I guess Lebron wasn't feeling good and it showed. It's hard to beat a team 4 times in a year. This next few weeks is going to be tough if the Cavs don't get any players to step up when the starters are down.

I agree with you on the goal tend and blocking foul...was thinking the same thing. I wonder when Z will be back. With the Lakers ahead, it would be nice to have all 5 starters at least...not 3! Come to think of it, Wallace didn't play tonight either, they only had 2 starters out there!

[ChicagoSU]

Yes he did.

And I would liek to see Cavs at full strength for the Lakers I want no excuses if they lose.

I agree with you on the goal tend and blocking foul...was thinking the same thing. I wonder when Z will be back. With the Lakers ahead, it would be nice to have all 5 starters at least...not 3! Come to think of it, Wallace didn't play tonight either, they only had 2 starters out there!

[xStriderx]

Delonte West - fractured wrist - CRAP! Bad time for that to happen. I'm so bummed. With Z out and West, they're down 2 starters man. They were up like 13 early in the first tonight and ended up loosing in OT. Ok for now, Lakers still have best record, but man, the Cav's were really rolling I hate to see injuries.

Fixed! =)

[xStriderx]

Yes he did.

And I would liek to see Cavs at full strength for the Lakers I want no excuses if they lose.

It's okay. We're missing Famar and Walton so I think it's pretty much even at this point when the two teams play. It's not as if they're missing Kobe or Lebron now if that was the case it's a different story.

[tbakergobuck]

Wallace just has the flu so hopefully he will play tonight for the Cavs. I have no idea when Z will be back. When those two big guys are out teams are getting to the basket a lot more on the Cavs. Looks like West will be out 2-3 weeks. Gibby's is still not 100% but he's getting better. Sasha Pavlovic and Wally will have to step up. I guess if your going to have injuries it's better to have them now then later in the year. The Cavs have some depth so hopefully some of the younger talent can step up. :fingers:

[88jr]

Wallace just has the flu so hopefully he will play tonight for the Cavs. I have no idea when Z will be back. When those two big guys are out teams are getting to the basket a lot more on the Cavs. Looks like West will be out 2-3 weeks. Gibby's is still not 100% but he's getting better. Sasha Pavlovic and Wally will have to step up. I guess if your going to have injuries it's better to have them now then later in the year. The Cavs have some depth so hopefully some of the younger talent can step up. :fingers:

Agreed - 2-3 weeks for Delonte isn't bad. I have been pretty impressed with JJ Hickson. They need him to step up big!

[tbakergobuck]

I forgot to say this but Delonte West is a tough kid. I bet if last night was a playoff game and the Cavs needed him he might have gone back in and tried to play. West is left handed and he's always saying something funny, he said " I really don't use my right hand, anyway."

[tbakergobuck]

Lakers looked good last night. I figured the Cavs would have to shoot great to win which they didn't. In a way I'm glad the Cavs got beat like they did so it will make them work harder on getting better. Hopefully the Cavs get a payback on Feb 8. :fingers:

[MsRandall]

Lakers did look good last night...My kobe showed out even with a dislocated finger on his shooting hand....

[88jr]

I didn't figure the Cavs would win with so many injured players. Oh well, as long as they beat LA in Cleveland later this year, I'm cool. I'm thinking with the tough west, the Cavs will hopefully finish with a better record anyhow. That's all that matters so that if they meet in the finals Cleveland gets home court.

How about the Magic...wow, they're becoming kinda scarey! Best record now!

[xStriderx]

Lakers defense was on point last night. I was really happy with it. They shut down Lebron and basically said if your going to win it's not going to be because of Lebron. Can't wait for the 8th.

[tbakergobuck]

Neither Kobe or Lebron shot well last night. Kobe's teammates stepped up and made shots. I think once Z and West come back, Lebron will start getting back into the paint since those two are good shooters and help spread the floor. I'm sure not to many non Cavs fans will agree but Lebron gets hacked a lot and to me it seems like the refs don't call fouls as much now. A foul is a foul no matter if your small and scrony or big and muscular. I guess it's similar to holding in the NFL, you can almost call that every play but then fans would get mad because the games would take forever.

Lebron has a NFL football commercial and some analysts are saying that Lebron probably could play in the NFL because of his size and speed plus he was a very good High School player. Now Kobe felt the need to reply by saying he could play in the NFL. lol If you haven't seen the commercial it's in my signature.

[ChicagoSU]

I'm tired of hearing about Lebron or Kobe going to play in the NFL. It's never gonna happen and pointless to talk about.

[tbakergobuck]

I know they won't play in the NFL. I only made a comment about it because Kobe just had to say he could play in the NFL just because of the Lebron NFL talk. I only heard about this for one day. geeesshhh

[ChicagoSU]

I wasn't meaning you sorry just ESPN ect

[xStriderx]

Neither Kobe or Lebron shot well last night. Kobe's teammates stepped up and made shots. I think once Z and West come back, Lebron will start getting back into the paint since those two are good shooters and help spread the floor. I'm sure not to many non Cavs fans will agree but Lebron gets hacked a lot and to me it seems like the refs don't call fouls as much now. A foul is a foul no matter if your small and scrony or big and muscular. I guess it's similar to holding in the NFL, you can almost call that every play but then fans would get mad because the games would take forever.


Neither shot well but for different reasons. Kobe dislocated is finger while Lebron was just shut down. He didn't get those easy dunks and wide open looks at the lane he normally gets. The great thing about the Lakers and why I cay Cleveland isn't better then the Celtics or the Lakers or even the Spurs is because like last night if Lebron doesn't have a 30 plus game, their going to lose. Lakers are very deep and can get contribution from every where. That's the next step the Cav's need to make to be a Championship team.

[ChicagoSU]

Lakers played a good game against Clippers tonight. Kobe had a triple double and Bynum had a career high 42pts and 15rbs

[tbakergobuck]

^ Well it was against the Clippers (9-32). I think any NBA team that loses two starters is going to struggle at times and it's going to take a little time to get some rhythm with the different players. Last night the Cavs played at Portland and Mo Williams stepped up big time scoring 33 points. The Cavs shot well, made 11-19 from 3-point attempts. Z should be back next week I think so that will help out the Cavs on offense and defense.

[ChicagoSU]

Ya it was against the Clips but none the less Bynum showed what he is capable of doing if he continues to work hard.


^ Well it was against the Clippers (9-32) . I think any NBA team that loses two starters is going to struggle at times and it's going to take a little time to get some rhythm with the different players. Last night the Cavs played at Portland and Mo Williams stepped up big time scoring 33 points. The Cavs shot well, made 11-19 from 3-point attempts. Z should be back next week I think so that will help out the Cavs on offense and defense.

[88jr]

if Lebron doesn't have a 30 plus game, their going to lose.

I think missing 30 ppg (Z and West) is what looses them games, not Lebron...

[tbakergobuck]

^ Yep. Not to mention how much both West and Z help on defense. It's funny even though it was last year the Cavs played better then any other NBA team against the Celtics in the playoffs but some people still don't think there one of the top 3 or 4 teams in the league. Oh well hopefully NBA teams think the same way. lol

[ChicagoSU]

What are you talking about they don't get respect? They get plenty. And the Hawks played Celtics just as well if not better than Cavs.


^ Yep. Not to mention how much both West and Z help on defense. It's funny even though it was last year the Cavs played better then any other NBA team against the Celtics in the playoffs they still don't get much respect. Oh well hopefully NBA teams think the same way. lol

[tbakergobuck]

What are you talking about they don't get respect? They get plenty. And the Hawks played Celtics just as well if not better than Cavs.I edited my post above but the Hawks did not play Boston as good as the Cavs in the playoffs last year. I know the Cavs and Hawks both took Boston to 7 games but all four loses for the Hawks they got blown out. The Cavs never got blown out so they were in all the games.

[ChicagoSU]

7 games is 7 games either way. And as far as your edit you are wrong. There isn't anyone who doesn't think Cavs are a top 3-4 Team, I don't know where you get that from.

[xStriderx]

I edited my post above but the Hawks did not play Boston as good as the Cavs in the playoffs last year. I know the Cavs and Hawks both took Boston to 7 games but all four loses for the Hawks they got blown out. The Cavs never got blown out so they were in all the games.

Boston also refused to make adjustments to Lebron and double team and triple team him if need be. Atlanta on the other hand was more of a balanced team effort. The teams that have beat the Cav's this year made those adjustments and finally the Bulls learned to clog the lane and make Lebron a jump shooter and he's less effective. I'm sure come playoff time you're not going to see Paul Pierce going one on one with Lebron like he did last year. I'm sure this year you'll see some games where it's not that close as long as they make the proper adjustments.

[tbakergobuck]

I will agree to disagree about who played better in last years playoffs against Boston. Re-read the last 5 or 6 posts and you should understand why I said what I said.

[tbakergobuck]

Lebron is a freak and no matter how much you try to clog the lane he will eventually find a way to get to the rim. When Lebrons jump shot is on, no one can stop him. I guess you didnt see last nights game against Portland.

[ChicagoSU]

Lakers did a pretty good job keeping him away from the rim on Mon, it's a team effort.

BOS played a good game against ORL tonight. And Lakers blew out the Wizards. Bynum had another good game 23pts 14rbs




Lebron is a freak and no matter how much you try to clog the lane he will eventually find a way to get to the rim. When Lebrons jump shot is on, no one can stop him. I guess you didnt see last nights game against Portland.

[tbakergobuck]

Lakers did a pretty good job keeping him away from the rim on Mon, it's a team effort.

BOS played a good game against ORL tonight. And Lakers blew out the Wizards. Bynum had another good game 23pts 14rbsLakers did do a good job but Lebron didn't shoot well. You can say it was Kobe's defense you can say Lebron had a off night but my point is when Lebron is hitting his shots (which he's done against LA) then teams have to play tighter defense which helps him get to the rim. Also when he teammates hit shots then that open the lanes as well.

[88jr]

my point is when Lebron is hitting his shots (which he's done against LA) then teams have to play tighter defense which helps him get to the rim. Also when he teammates hit shots then that open the lanes as well.

Bingo...you hit the nail on the head. In the previous 2 seasons, I felt like on certain nights they did this very well. This season, I feel they are doing this almost nightly. Missing part of your rotation hurts but they've done pretty well so far. Hopefully they continue to mature through the end of the season. I still wonder if they'd trade, I'd be afraid this would mess up what they have going right now...

[ChicagoSU]

I think Cavs need a trade

[xStriderx]

^ I don't think a trade will help. I think Lebron needs to handle the ball less. The offense runs way to much through Lebron. The team has great scorers and ball handlers in Mo Williams and Delonte West but they've been turned into spectators at times.

[ChicagoSU]

I don't think the Cavs have great scorers other than Lebron. That's why I think they need a trade

^ I don't think a trade will help. I think Lebron needs to handle the ball less. The offense runs way to much through Lebron. The team has great scorers and ball handlers in Mo Williams and Delonte West but they've been turned into spectators at times.

[88jr]

I don't think the Cavs have great scorers other than Lebron. That's why I think they need a trade

I don't know, I'm struggling with this. If you put this team up against the greats of the past, I'm not sure they have great shooters. But if you look at Williams, West, Gibson, and Z, they have some very good outside shooters. I'm just afraid a trade would upset things going forward to the end of the season. The only way I think I'd like it is if they'd get another Mo Williams or better. That might help. They need another big man a forward that can score.

[tbakergobuck]

not that I want to get into a "who's better Lebron or Kobe" but I thought this was a good article.
The Back and Forth: Kobe or LeBron?
This debate only seems to be headed to one place: the 2009 NBA Finals
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3854368

[ChicagoSU]

Lakers blew out Spurs yesterday also Celtics blew out Mavericks.

[cjordan08]

LLAAAKKKEEERRRSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tbakergobuck]

21-0 at home....Damn, Mo Williams was hot last night scoring a career high 43 points. He was 7-12 for 3-pointers and James had a quiet triple double.

Bobcats beat the Lakers in LA in 2OT.

[ChicagoSU]

It's terrible how the good Teams usually lose to bad Teams.

[88jr]

I know...they must just figure they have it in the bag and don't play hard. I always wonder how the sucky team gets pumped for a game like that. I'd be like, "Aaaaa sh*t, we're gettin our *****es handed to us tonight..."

[ChicagoSU]

Bynum got hurt again last night :(

[xStriderx]

It's okay that Bynum is out. Everyone already knows that the Lakers are more then capable of making it to the playoffs an

[ChicagoSU]

Yes hopefully he makes it back in time for the playoffs this year.

[tbakergobuck]

Bynum was playing good ball and the Lakers have some depth but will see how it affects them a month from now. I think the Cavs went 9-4 without Z but it took a week or so to change the offense not to mention teams got to the hoop a lot more but I know the Lakers still have another 7 footer.

[ChicagoSU]

Kobe dropped 61pts on the Knicks at Madison Square Garden setting 2 records. Most points by a visiting player (used to be MJ w/ 55) and most points ever scored there (Bernard King had 60). Lakers won 126-117

[ChicagoSU]

Also Jameer Nelson dislocated his right shoulder tonight

and

Chris Paul Strained his Groin tonight

[xStriderx]

Bynum was playing good ball and the Lakers have some depth but will see how it affects them a month from now. I think the Cavs went 9-4 without Z but it took a week or so to change the offense not to mention teams got to the hoop a lot more but I know the Lakers still have another 7 footer.

Not to mention we have a sixth man who can easily be a starter on any team in the NBA. I'm confident the Lakers won't see any down time with Bynum gone.

[ChicagoSU]

I hope so, exspecially when Kobe drops 61pts Woooooooo!

[Dissolved]

Not to mention we have a sixth man who can easily be a starter on any team in the NBA. I'm confident the Lakers won't see any down time with Bynum gone.


LO or Ariza? Both could easily be 6th man. But with Drew out LO will start.

J. Nelson Has a Torn Labrum in his right shoulder.

[xStriderx]

WOOT! Just got back from the bar watchingn the Laker game! Lakers beat Celts AT HOME!.... WOOOHOOO! mang.. we got home court adv. hell yah!

[MsRandall]

The Lakers looked good and its time to wake my Boston Loving sister up and tell her my Lakers are going to the ship just like I predicted in the beginning of the season ....I love it!!!!! I know she wont answer the phone she never does after Boston loses!:bang:

[xStriderx]

For anyone who thinks games like those don't matter, did you notice after the Lakers won how they ran onto the court and huddled in the middle high fiving and stuff? You can tell me that game meant a lot especially since they beat Boston without Bynum.

Next big game is Lakers and Cav's on Sunday.

[88jr]

Next big game is Lakers and Cav's on Sunday.

Oh yeah! We're ready. Here's a great article for Cavs fans saying that Lebron has MVP wrapped up this year. Having no teamates on the All-Star team says that he has no true all-stars to support his efforts. Good point that I never thought of...

http://my.nba.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5700032347

[xStriderx]

Oh yeah! We're ready. Here's a great article for Cavs fans saying that Lebron has MVP wrapped up this year. Having no teamates on the All-Star team says that he has no true all-stars to support his efforts. Good point that I never thought of...

http://my.nba.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5700032347

Again, that arguement for MVP can't be used. I for one still remember 2003-2005 when Kobe was robbed of MVP awards. He had awesome seasons and was denied the MVP award because they said it wasn't the "Best pllayer of the year award," nor was it, "Best performance for the year," but the award should go to the best player on the best team. After that the award went to Dirk and Steve Nash(pssshhh, the two best playetrs on the best teams at the time. Honestly, Kobe took Kwame, Smush and Walton to the playoffs, consecutively and was still not given the award. Compare that Lakers team to what Lebron has now and I think any neautral party should agree that by far Lebron has more help.

Am I bitter that Kobe got slighted those years, hell yes!

[xStriderx]

Oh yeah! We're ready. Here's a great article for Cavs fans saying that Lebron has MVP wrapped up this year. Having no teamates on the All-Star team says that he has no true all-stars to support his efforts. Good point that I never thought of...

http://my.nba.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5700032347

By the way, it's not really a wrap either. If history has taught us anything, you'll see Kobe's numbers and performance shoots up in the second half(after Allstar break). Last year CP3 was the clear front runner the first half then Kobe was the second. He might just do that again, especially if he leads the Lakers to beating the Cav's at home.

[88jr]

I agree...it's a long road, I was just sharing the article that argues that Lebron has it wrapped up. It's too bad they don't decide the MVP when the Finals are over. Dirk won it a couple years ago and didn't make it past the first round. That tells me that he wasn't too valuable...lol

[xStriderx]

^Exactly, but he only won it because of that rule seveal years back, "Anyone but Kobe".

[xStriderx]

Lakers are starting a bad habit of breaking streaks. First Celtics, now Cav's.

Lakers really had LBJ on lock today.

[tbakergobuck]

Cavs gave up way to many easy buckets and the Lakers did do a good job on Lebron.

[tbakergobuck]

Glad Mo Williams finally gets to go to the All Star Game. Who knows why he wasn't already selected. Damn Cavs haters. lol

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/allstar2009/news/story?id=3897494

[tbakergobuck]

That was a crazy finish in the Cavs vs Pacer game. Lebron went up for a dunk with .8 sec and got fouled by Granger. Lebron made both foul shots to tie the game. Then with .4 sec it looked like Lebron went straight up and tipped the ball but the stupid officials called him for a foul against Granger. I guess it was a make up call. lol Cavs lost by 1

[tbakergobuck]

Pacers beat Orlando as well. There better then what there record shows. The Cavs just need to get there swagger back like they had at the start of the season.

[xStriderx]

^ The Laker Effect?

The Cavs lose back to back games tonight for the first time in the season... the Celtics lose back to back games (at home) a few days ago...

What do they have in common? Both losses come right after they lose the the Lakers. Muahahahah

(Still loving the win over the Celts )

[tbakergobuck]

Glad the Cavs got back on the winning track and Mo Williams was on fire once again scoring a career-high 44 points. :) Utah beat the Lakers.

[xStriderx]

There's no denying that Utah's a tough team. They earned that win.

Much props to Utah because they beat us without one of their star players and a still recovering D-Will. Sucks this year that team has been plagued by injuries. If they were completely healthy I think they would be up there with Orlando and Cleveland.

[king_koopa]

If Houston was healthy :thought::eyebrow:

[xStriderx]

I gave up on Houston long time ago my friend and so should you =) j/p

[xStriderx]

For those who missed it, probably the best block of the season, period.

http://i43.tinypic.com/30hvlmp.gif

And then the reaction of the Lakers....

http://www.hachisvertas.net/temp/gif/brown_block_LOL.GIF

The whole building went crazy when it happened.

[tbakergobuck]

Nice block bud damn he practically ran the dude over. lol I guess that might be the best one but Lebron probably has 10 blocks this season that he's hustled down the court and blocked the ball off the backboard.

[sprintrook]

For those who missed it, probably the best block of the season, period.

The whole building went crazy when it happened.

Here it is in HD. Holy Hops.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0N5D728RkE

[xStriderx]

^I'm glad we picked up Shannon Brown. Without a doubt we picked up him to help Farmar on Rondo. Farmar does a great job on Ronod, it's just Fisher is getting old and we don't want him chasing around Rondo when someone else can. Brown's athleticism should neutralize Rondo when Farmar and Fisher are both out of the game.

[xStriderx]

Nice block bud damn he practically ran the dude over. lol I guess that might be the best one but Lebron probably has 10 blocks this season that he's hustled down the court and blocked the ball off the backboard.

Dude, that was not a foul. If you watched the game you'd see the different views. There was no contact until the ball was in Shannon's hands and even the contact that was made was very minimal. The official who called it was just behind the play and made the call because the player fell to the ground like he'd been hit by a truck. Just look at the youtube video, hell even read the comments there. A lot of people agree that it wasn't a foul.

[tbakergobuck]

^ lol at the Lebron reply. I call it like I see it and to me it looked Laker player got all ball but in the process his lower body knocked the hawks player over because he came through him. The Laker player that made the block didn't argue that a foul was called so maybe he thought it was the right call. I really don't care if it's a foul or not. :lol:

Also when I said bud the d was a typo, it was suppose to be but.

Sprint4ever you know your suppose to quote under what your quoting. :thought:

[bball1011]

Speaking of blocks, Lebron had a nice hustle one on Calderon last night. Yea, Brown had a good block but I've seen better by G.Wallace this year :)

[tbakergobuck]

Yea It's crazy how Lebron gets those blocks. He comes out of know where and swats the ball in traffic against the backboard running full speed. You would think he would hit his head or something on the backboard. I remember Lebron blocking Ray Allen a few times when he thought he had a wide open lay last year in the playoffs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrFHcth5i0c

[tbakergobuck]

Damn Lebron was on fire tonight scoring 55 points (8-11 3 pointers) against Milwaukee. In the 3rd Quarter Lebron scored 16 points in the first 2 minutes, 50 seconds. :ohcrap: That was cool when Z stepped in and got Varejao's back after Villanueva from Millwauke threw Varejao down by his chin. The Cavs need to take better care of the ball though. They had 17 turnovers.

[sprintrook]

I heard lebron was on HGH for a while, maybe that explains why the guy has more back hair than a gorilla.

[Show]

I heard lebron was on HGH for a while, maybe that explains why the guy has more back hair than a gorilla.

Just when you think ignorance was going to take a nap.....PRESTO it appears out of no where.

[Matt]

Knock it off and stick with the topic.

[sprintrook]

Anyone see devin harris magically stretch out 1.8 seconds into enough time to move the ball 10 feet, get deflected, then still get a shot off? Kudos on the buzzer beater but I have no clue how that was 1.8 seconds.

[xStriderx]

Marbury finally agreed on a buyout with the Knicks! I see him going to Orlando or Boston.

[CHOPPAHOLIX113]

Marbury finally agreed on a buyout with the Knicks! I see him going to Orlando or Boston.

Prob Boston will make them better.

[tbakergobuck]

Cavs had a horrible game against the Rockets and got there butts kicked. Houston had a good game plan against Lebron. The Cavs had open looks but shot 35%. :td: Hopefully the they'll bounce back tomorrow night against the Spurs. Also Ben Wallace broke his fibula I think in the 1st quarter and played on it til the 3rd. There saying he will be out 4-6 weeks.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3938537

[Show]

Boston lost last night to the CLIPPERS! wow

Then tonight the Cavs got blow out by the Rockets who held Lebron to 1 rb and 0 ast 1st time 493 games he went with no assist's. Also they lost Ben Wallace w/ a broken leg for 8-10 weeks.

Also tonight the Laker's blew out a PHX team w/out Nash

I wanted to watch the Lakers game but I fell asleep. Glad to hear that they won.

[bball1011]

I didn't see that one coming today. Suns beating the Lakers without Nash and surviving Kobe's crazy 3rd quarter gives me hope that my Suns will make the playoffs and might do some damage if Amare comes back. Its awesome to see them back to run and gun style. :)

[tbakergobuck]

Lakers and Boston go down. Cavs won a tough game on the road against Atlanta. I don't know how Lebron had a chance to get a hand in Joe Johnson's face on the last second shot since the Hawks had a good screen on him.

[tbakergobuck]

Damn good game between the Cavs and Heat tonight. I think the last two games shows how mentally tough the Cavs are. Lebron had 42 and Wade had 41. Cavs rallied from 11-point deficit in the final minutes to beat the Heat 107-100. The Cavs finally stopped Wade after they started double teaming him in the 4th Quarter. That dunk King James had late in the game was sick. He through the HAMMER Down. lol
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=290302014

[jervz]

Lakers losing 2 straight only for the 3rd time this season. Good thing the Celtics are losing too so Los Angeles stays at the top of standings.

[tbakergobuck]

Cavs and Lakers are 47-12. Boston is 47-14. Cavs have 14 home games left in the season. :) The Cavs will probably pick up Joe Smith or Drew Gooden which either one of the players will help since Ben Wallace is injured.

[jervz]

Cavs and Lakers are 47-12. Boston is 47-14. Cavs have 14 home games left in the season. :) The Cavs will probably pick up Joe Smith or Drew Gooden which either one of the players will help since Ben Wallace is injured.


No. Lakers is 48-12, if they win it tonight then its going to be 49-12 or 48-13 if they lose 3 in a row which never happen this season.

[xStriderx]

Kobe wouldn't let that happen.

[jervz]

Kobe wouldn't let that happen.

Yeah I hope so. Game about to start.

[tbakergobuck]

must be a echo echo in here. :lol:

[tbakergobuck]

Shaq's flop against Howard was kinda funny. I was a little surprised with this though "I was shocked, seriously, shocked," Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said of O'Neal's flopping. "And very disappointed cause he knows what it's like. Lets stand up and play like men, and I think our guy did that tonight."

[Show]

must be a echo echo in here. :lol:

Mitch Kupcake sits on his butt again while other teams do something to improve. What have the Lakers done? Nothing.

[bball1011]

Its gonna be fun watching Lebron kill Boston tonight and if I'm lucky the Stro Show will get a nice dunk on Yao :D

[sprintrook]

Its gonna be fun watching Lebron kill Boston tonight
Good call, lebron really killed em!

[bball1011]

Lol oops

[tbakergobuck]

The Cavs gave up way to many points in the paint. If they don't stop that **** there not winning anything. Not to mention they need to do better at the foul line.

[w7excursion]

Good call, lebron really killed em!

lol the cavs fans were cheering for the Celts at the end. And we(tb and I) had this discussion last year, L.J. cant do it all.

[tbakergobuck]

Actually Lebron's teammates did ok last night but Lebron didn't shoot good. James is a streaky shooter but I think the Cavs need to push the ball up the court more because Lebron is hard to stop and Mo can hit 3's on the run.

[xStriderx]

I don't see the Cav's beating Celtics in the playoffs. If the Cav's can't beat them without KG and Big Baby I don't see them winning the series.

[88jr]

Yeah, I'm getting a little worried about the Cavs. They typically pick it up in the playoffs and I think they will again. I think the Cavs are only 1-4 against the Celtics and Lakers...the only 2 teams that will challenge them in the future...

[88jr]

I guess their 2-5 against the Lakers, Celtics, Magic and Spurs. There are still home games left against the Magic, Celtics and Spurs. If they win those, I suppose a 5-6 record against the top 3 teams is decent, I think that's where they need to improve...stepping it up to another level when playing top teams.

[xStriderx]

Yeah, I'm getting a little worried about the Cavs. They typically pick it up in the playoffs and I think they will again. I think the Cavs are only 1-4 against the Celtics and Lakers...the only 2 teams that will challenge them in the future...

Well, the difference between last year and this year is during this time last year Lebron was going nuts on teams he knew he'd be running into in the playoffs. This year not so much. I think teams like Spurs, Celtics and the Lakers have finally found strategies that keep him from torching them. In my opinion, it looks like their actually sending less double teams to him and making him play one on one with only the option of getting jump shots. Their playing a lot of help defense and collapsing to a zone the moment he even looks like he wants to go into the lane. What I've also noticed is when they make him play the one on one it throws the Cav's offense out of sync. He no longer has the open man from the double team to dish it to, to get the easy assist and open shot. Once this happens the team takes a lot longer to get into their offense and the team as a whole start to play a lot of one on one ball.

[tbakergobuck]

Cavs on back back games are 13-2 which is the NBA's best. Cavs did a good job on Wade and Lebron had another triple double. Mo Williams had another good game against the Heat with 29 points 6-7 from 3-point line but the Cavs can't give up 20 point leads. Cavs now get a few days of rest after playing 5 games in 7 days.

[tbakergobuck]

LeBron James blocks Jason Richardson's 360 fastbreak dunk!!! OWNAGE! So EMBARRASSING!!! :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8wHE6pR-m0

[xStriderx]

Dude! That was very embarrassing! Poor JRich! lol!

[sprintrook]

LeBron James blocks Jason Richardson's 360 fastbreak dunk!!! OWNAGE! So EMBARRASSING!!! :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8wHE6pR-m0

Clearly a foul. Another triple double though.

[tbakergobuck]

Officials probably thought Richardson was a dumb @ss for trying 360 while Lebron was anywhere near him. lol Lebron has what like 20 chase down blocks this year. :ohcrap: :scare:

Cavs made it hard on themselves once again coming out slow and not playing any defense but they got the win. The Cavaliers clinched the Central Division title for the first time since 1975-76. :)

[xStriderx]

^ Yah, to bad that's the only title they are going get. =)

[tbakergobuck]

Time will tell my friend. If the Cavs continue to hit the 3's and start playing 4 quarters of defense they have a good shot to win it all. It's all about peaking during the playoffs not to mention having some luck and staying healthy.

[xStriderx]

They have to many road blocks. They still can't be Celtics missing KG and they can't beat the Lakers missing Bynum. Both players intricate parts of the offense and defense to both teams.

Right now I see Celtics vs Lakers again the finals.

[jervz]

Yeah looks like a foul but you can't blame the refs...if they didn't see it then they cannot call it.

[88jr]

Cavs win again. Big win at home against the Magic. Lebron's 3 with about 45 seconds to go was amazing...why he didn't just go for 2, I don't know, thank God he made it! 9 of their final 15 are at home. I don't want to call it a season, but Boston sure has some work to do to catch the Cavs in the East. The battle with Los Angeles looks like it's going to come right down to the wire. They only have 7 of their final 16 at home.

[xStriderx]

^To catch the Cav's? What are you talking about? You Cav fans seem to be the only ones saying this kind of stuff. ESPN, NBA, TNT, Spots Illustrated still have Celtics as the favorite coming out of the East. I understand the Cav's are playing really well but the Celtics are still the Champs and the road to the title still goes through them. Plus, I wouldn't be getting a gitty right now because Celtics are still missing and K.G and still working in Marbury. I think it still looks like a Lakers vs Celtics game.

[tbakergobuck]

Will find out soon enough but I don't understand how you think the cavs have no shot just because they one lost one freakin game to boston when they didn't have kg. If the cavs finish with the best record in the nba that will only help them since there 30-1 at home. Hopefully wally's knee is ok but the cavs are deep and someone will step up if he can't play.

[xStriderx]

Pretty sure what he means is the Cavs couldn't beat BOS w/out KG and couldn't beat LAL w/out Bynum so until they prove they can the Celtic's have the better shot of coming out of the East. Cav's are playing great ball right now and being home is gonna help them.

Exactly my point, thank you!

Being home should help them a lot but when it comes playoff time teams like Lakers, Celtics and especially the Spurs(can't put enough emphasis on this team) turn it up a notch. Cav's are playing great but anyone who says that lost to the Celts was just one game is really lowering the bar a lot. If you've noticed the games which include Spurs, Lakers, Celtics and Cav's have all been serious games as if they were finals or playoff games and for good reason. It's a big boost to know you can beat that team even if it is just "one freaking game." Hell, when the Lakers beat Celts at home the Lakers team ran on to the court as if they just won the ring.

[bball1011]

All the games between Cavs and Celtics have been won by the home team this season and it looks like the Cavs will have home court in the East unless they have a complete meltdown which I think will help them beat the Celtics in a 7 game series. Besides I'd rather like to see a Kobe vs. Lebron finals than a repeat of last year's :)

[xStriderx]

^ I don''t want to see that game only because it won't be fun. Lakers have pretty much learned how to play Lebron now. Every time they've met he's been a non factor and the Lakers have just out played the Cav's. I don't think it would be that great of a game especially if Bynum comes back.

[tbakergobuck]

We have talked about this before. Teams have been playing Lebron better by not letting him get to the hoop as much but when Lebron is hitting his jumper that opens up his drive. I really think the Cavs should run more since Lebron finishes so strong. Lebron is a streaky shooter but each year he improves. No matter what team Lebron or Kobe and maybe even Pierce plays against in the Playoffs, if there healthy no team will shut them down. I'm so sure of that I'll bet anyone 30 grand su $ :lol:

[xStriderx]

Poor Portland they were so close. My second favorite team in the league almost beat the Cav's at home. I just wish Brandon Roy would be more aggressive in close situations like that.

[tbakergobuck]

It was a ugly game but the Cavs/Lebron found a way to win another close game against Portland. Cavs should have set a team record with the fewest turnovers in a game (1) but at the end Mo Williams threw a pass off the rim when he was running away from getting fouled.

[88jr]

^To catch the Cav's? What are you talking about? You Cav fans seem to be the only ones saying this kind of stuff. ESPN, NBA, TNT, Spots Illustrated still have Celtics as the favorite coming out of the East. I understand the Cav's are playing really well but the Celtics are still the Champs and the road to the title still goes through them. Plus, I wouldn't be getting a gitty right now because Celtics are still missing and K.G and still working in Marbury. I think it still looks like a Lakers vs Celtics game.

Yeah, Cavs are close to wrapping up home court in the East. If they can get home court in the East finals, I don't see Boston coming to Cleveland and beating them...this is huge. And right now, the Cavs are one game up on the Lakers. I think if the Cavs hope to beat the Lakers in the Finals, they NEED home court.

[bball1011]

Congrats to Shaq on passing Moses Malone and is now the 5th all time scorer :tu:

[xStriderx]

The Natural(Brandon Roy) had 30 points, eight rebounds and seven assists in his game against the Bucks. The more I watch this guy play the more I fall in love with his game.

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Yeah, Cavs are close to wrapping up home court in the East. If they can get home court in the East finals, I don't see Boston coming to Cleveland and beating them...this is huge. And right now, the Cavs are one game up on the Lakers. I think if the Cavs hope to beat the Lakers in the Finals, they NEED home court.

The Cav"s need home court if they hope to win anything. Anyone can beat the Cavs on the road. But teams like the Lakers and even the Celtics can win one in Cleveland.

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The Cav"s need home court if they hope to win anything. Anyone can beat the Cavs on the road. But teams like the Lakers and even the Celtics can win one in Cleveland.

Don't forget the Spurs!