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Bibbin
09-25-2008, 10:01 PM
Some may know of this added value from having unlimited mobile to mobile, but there are many who don't, so I thought I'd post.

I have a Sprint phone, so does my spouse who is currently in India. We both have unlimited mobile to mobile on our lines. Whenever I call him in India, the M2M kicks in and voila, free international outgoing calls.

The only charge which may be incurred will be on his line for international roaming. However, I have been told by Sprint Worldwide that the addition of the "Unlimited Intl. Roaming Plan" at a mere cost of $40 per mo. (attachable only to an Everything Plan or the Blackberry World Phone), would cover his roaming costs to receive the call on a non Sprint network.

So, in essence, Caller incurs no costs and may talk 'til their heart's content and the receiver, with the add-on is also free to talk 'til they are blue in the face. :clap:

In my opinion, that's a really good deal.;) Just thought I'd pass this on.

Bibbin
09-25-2008, 10:08 PM
Oh yeah, btw, I even got this in writing.

HBENZ
09-25-2008, 10:28 PM
That is really cool. Post what you got. Thanks

str8bacardil
09-25-2008, 10:46 PM
Damn Unlimited International Roaming sounds like a great deal.

OldIsGold
09-26-2008, 12:36 AM
Well.. since you are calling only the sprint number.. its ofcourse mobile to mobile and free.. even if u were calling a tmobile or at&t or any person who is internationally roaming you'd as you'd be calling only the US phone number ofcourse its of no extra cost for you. But cost for them to recv your call.

The unlimited international calling add-on sounds very lucrative. I know they used to have such a plan for $15 to roam in Canada a few years ago and they disabled it for some kind of accounts.. I think fair & flexible or soemthing..

Bibbin
09-26-2008, 02:29 AM
Well.. since you are calling only the sprint number.. its ofcourse mobile to mobile and free.. even if u were calling a tmobile or at&t or any person who is internationally roaming you'd as you'd be calling only the US phone number ofcourse its of no extra cost for you. But cost for them to recv your call.

The unlimited international calling add-on sounds very lucrative. I know they used to have such a plan for $15 to roam in Canada a few years ago and they disabled it for some kind of accounts.. I think fair & flexible or soemthing..

I beg to differ regarding your first statement. Were you dialing T-mobile or AT&T the calls would not be M2M and you would incur reduction in your minutes.

Also, I think you are misunderstanding my statement regarding the "Unlimited Intl. ROAMING Plan" for $40. It is not an Unlimited Intl. "Calling" Plan as you referred to it as. This plan covers the line which is abroad.

When you travel abroad, you are outside Sprint's network. Sprint has partnership agreements with foreign networks by which Sprint customers are allowed to "roam" onto the foreign network. This costs Sprint $$$, which they in turn, pass to the customer. As a result, any costs incurred as a result of there not being Sprint coverage in the foreign country result in intl. roaming fees which vary depending on the foreign country and the networks therein. Believe me, these costs are not cheap. $40/mo, no matter the country to roam freely without the angst of always monitoring roaming costs is a steal, to say the least. :tu:

peruvianman
09-26-2008, 05:46 PM
Hi Bibbin.
Understood this only works with an Everything Plan or the Blackberry World Phone. My wife and I will be renewing our current Family Plan for the SHARE PLAN (Talk/Message/Data Share Plans--Unlimited Messaging & Data; 1500 monthly anytime mins for 2 phones) very soon.

Do you think Sprint will allow us to add this $40/monthly Unlimited Int'l Roaming fee to our Share Plan? Or do we each need to get an Individual Everything Plan (ie: $69.99 for 450 monthly anytime min's) so the free roaming could work?

Txs.

Bibbin
09-26-2008, 06:04 PM
Hi Bibbin.
Understood this only works with an Everything Plan or the Blackberry World Phone. My wife and I will be renewing our current Family Plan for the Share Plan (Talk/Message/Data Share Plans`-+piyrw

I'm sorry, but "+piyrw?" Please explain. I'm not sure if the $40 plan applies to talk/message/data, but I don't see why it wouldn't. It is one of the newer plans.

However, if you do not have an Everything plan or a Blackberry World Phone, you can still get the plan. The only difference is that the per month charge will be $70, not $40.

Give Sprint Worldwide a call (888-226-7212). Be forewarned, based on my experience, treat what they say in the same manner as you would if you were calling Cust. Care (*2). I made the initial mistake of thinking that since their department was pretty subject specific that they would give accurate info across the board. WRONG!!! Five calls, five different answers. Be sure to give the Intl. Rep time to note why you called and politely ask them to read back to you what they've written. Half the time, the call description is wrong.:frustrate

Secondary warning In general, Domestic Reps have no clue about the ins and outs of Intl. services, beyond Intl. Dialing Capability and some don't even know that.

Keep this in mind.

peruvianman
09-26-2008, 06:09 PM
Thanks for your reply. So sorry about the "...cfhskf...", the message was sent accidentally w/out finishing the post.

deathorglory
09-26-2008, 10:27 PM
The unlimited international calling add-on sounds very lucrative. I know they used to have such a plan for $15 to roam in Canada a few years ago and they disabled it for some kind of accounts.. I think fair & flexible or soemthing..

That was only for Free & Clear and certain Fair & Flex plans with a set number of minutes, plus it was only supposed to be on corporate accounts like IBM, etc. It was not unlimited.

As for unlimited international roaming, I find that hard to believe. I'll look it up when I get to work on Monday though.

Bibbin
09-27-2008, 01:04 AM
Hi Bibbin.
Understood this only works with an Everything Plan or the Blackberry World Phone. My wife and I will be renewing our current Family Plan for the SHARE PLAN (Talk/Message/Data Share Plans--Unlimited Messaging & Data; 1500 monthly anytime mins for 2 phones) very soon.

Do you think Sprint will allow us to add this $40/monthly Unlimited Int'l Roaming fee to our Share Plan? Or do we each need to get an Individual Everything Plan (ie: $69.99 for 450 monthly anytime min's) so the free roaming could work?

Txs.

Yes, I checked and you can, in fact, add the plan to your T/M/D Share plan at $40/phone. I created a dummy shopping cart with the T/M/D share plan and at the very end you will see the option labelled "Data Worldwide" at a cost of $40/phone. This add-on can be removed and re-added at will and the beauty of it is that you can request a refund for any days you fail to utilize the service within the month for which you've paid.:tu: Why can't all add-ons be this flexible?

Also for anyone who finds this hard to believe, a description of the add-on can be found here (http://nextelonline.nextel.com/en/stores/popups/data_worldwide_popup.shtml).

Maybe I should start a thread regarding the Roaming Plan, as there appears to be more interest in it than in the actual thread topic. .:cool:

MISTRESS
09-27-2008, 02:55 AM
called 888 226 7212--Rep said 2 things before he said No. India has Sprint towers so it's easy to get m2m and he has never heard of, couldn't find any info on this unlimited int'l roaming $40.00 thing

Will try again later or tomorrow

Bibbin
09-27-2008, 10:10 AM
called 888 226 7212--Rep said 2 things before he said No. India has Sprint towers so it's easy to get m2m and he has never heard of, couldn't find any info on this unlimited int'l roaming $40.00 thing

Will try again later or tomorrow

:laughing:See what I mean when I say for callers to give the Intl Reps' answers the same credence you would give to a *2 Rep? It's the same scenario as when one calls and inquires about PICK 3. We all know the feature exists. However, you can call *2 and have a Rep. insist that it doesn't exist and they have never heard of it.:frustrate

Ask to speak to a Supv. As I have provided a link to the plan's features, it's obvious it does, in fact, exist.:deal:

OldIsGold
09-27-2008, 04:09 PM
called 888 226 7212--Rep said 2 things before he said No. India has Sprint towers so it's easy to get m2m and he has never heard of, couldn't find any info on this unlimited int'l roaming $40.00 thing

Will try again later or tomorrow

Why does India have Sprint Towers? Are there so many sprint customers roaming in India? or is it because the callcenters are in India?

Dubspoon
09-27-2008, 04:49 PM
I called about this too, there was a recent Jamaica trip recently that cost me 2 bucks/minute. I was assured multiple times no plan like that exist and that the op is probably signed up for international data roaming but all calls recieved and made by the out of country phone would be $2.50

Shoshana
09-27-2008, 09:30 PM
Why does India have Sprint Towers? Are there so many sprint customers roaming in India? or is it because the callcenters are in India?

I doubt they have Sprint towers - but they do have CDMA towers....

Bibbin
09-28-2008, 03:46 AM
I called about this too, there was a recent Jamaica trip recently that cost me 2 bucks/minute. I was assured multiple times no plan like that exist and that the op is probably signed up for international data roaming but all calls recieved and made by the out of country phone would be $2.50

:frustrate WOW, this is truly unreal that no one at Sprint Worldwide is acknowledging this thing. Did you refer them to this (http://nextelonline.nextel.com/en/stores/popups/data_worldwide_popup.shtml)? It gets kind of confusing because Intl. features are similarly labeled

If that is what you were told then I seriously question that Rep's knowledge of existing plans and features. I do have "international data roaming" on all of my lines. However this feature, when labeled as such, is merely the data equivalent to "International Dialing Capability" (which could also be listed on your plan as "International Calls"). These two no-charge add-ons are merely listed on your plan to indicate to the Intl. Support Team (Intl Tech Support, I suppose) that they should unblock or enable the line to 1. Dial Intl. #s and 2. Roam when travelling abroad. It's my understanding that w/o these to features, your device is rendered incapable of Intl. calling and/or Intl.Roaming.

To illustrate the confusion, it took me a total of 3 calls to merely get "International Dialing Capability" attached to one of my lines. The Reps kept adding the $4 /mo Intl Calling Plan. I kept explaining the difference to them and ultimately a Supv added the correct feature.:frustrate

Now, mind you, the subject of my post was M2M resulting in free Intl calls from a U.S. Sprint/Nextel device to a S/N device which is abroad (in my case, an Ace). The $40 plan I referred to only apples to the abroad line.

Dead_Rebel
10-01-2008, 07:58 AM
Umm.... Are you guys and gals sure that you're not accidentally referring to the $40/$70 intl DATA roaming plan that's ONLY for WW BB's?? That's a data only option and does not apply to calls in any way. It simply allows the BB to use the GSM radio to do double duty with voice/data capabilities on the foreign networks. Doesn't apply to voice calls in any shape form or fashion.

 
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