New version of PDANet is out (2.0)

[pony]

PDANet 2.0 is out with WM6 enhancements, including the ability to use the phone and data connection simultaneously. Upgrading from 1.80 only costs $19.

Timed nicely with the just-recently released *official* Sprint Touch Rev.A+GPS firmware update.
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[NOVA_Sprint]

where do i get it? can someone send me a link here to let me know where i can get the latest version of the pdanet? i am thinking of using my mogul as a modem. i have the unlimited pro vision internet service. am i able to do so?

[dzuchowski]

version 2 does not support vista 64 bit yet only version 1.8 does and why is the company called june fabrics?

[jhilman]

So pardon me for being stupid but what does PDAnet get you that you can't do with the built in Ineternet sharing program? I use it regularly tethered to my laptop and it works great. I'm just curious as to what spending the extra $19 will get me. I'm not opposed to spending money on solutions... but can't see why if there is a free alternative that works.

[pony]

So pardon me for being stupid but what does PDAnet get you that you can't do with the built in Ineternet sharing program? I use it regularly tethered to my laptop and it works great. I'm just curious as to what spending the extra $19 will get me. I'm not opposed to spending money on solutions... but can't see why if there is a free alternative that works.

First off, the program is $36. It is $19 if you purchased the previous version.

Secondly, its easier to use. One click on your desktop and its all connected. With the phone's ICS, you have to use the phone to establish its own internet connection, then go to the PC and share it. PDAnet makes it simpler, and its 100% sure not to get you charged (some people have said their ICS has reverted automatically from time to time from "Sprint PCS" back to "Phone as Modem". If Sprint catches you using Phone as Modem, they could charge you.) PDANet doesn't use Phone as modem or ICS. It is its very own separate dialup networking application that is running on your phone, so as far as Sprint sees it, it is just like any internet application you install to your phone.

[pony]

where do i get it? can someone send me a link here to let me know where i can get the latest version of the pdanet? i am thinking of using my mogul as a modem. i have the unlimited pro vision internet service. am i able to do so?

You will be able to with unlimited data. I don't know if I can post the link here, but search google for "June Fabrics", that is the company's name.

[pony]

version 2 does not support vista 64 bit yet only version 1.8 does and why is the company called june fabrics?

I wasn't aware of that. However, it should still work with Bluetooth or Wifi, since these things don't require the PC-side of pdanet.

[pony]

version 2 does not support vista 64 bit yet only version 1.8 does and why is the company called june fabrics?

Because May Fabrics was already taken?

Maybe they started out as selling fabrics. Who knows? Seem like an illogical jump to go from clothing to software?

What about Tandy, which is a leather company (Tandy Leather). They became Radio Shack Corporation. Leather to computers/electronics is a bit of a stretch too.

[jhilman]

First off, the program is $36. It is $19 if you purchased the previous version.

Secondly, its easier to use. One click on your desktop and its all connected. With the phone's ICS, you have to use the phone to establish its own internet connection, then go to the PC and share it. PDAnet makes it simpler, and its 100% sure not to get you charged (some people have said their ICS has reverted automatically from time to time from "Sprint PCS" back to "Phone as Modem". If Sprint catches you using Phone as Modem, they could charge you.) PDANet doesn't use Phone as modem or ICS. It is its very own separate dialup networking application that is running on your phone, so as far as Sprint sees it, it is just like any internet application you install to your phone.


Ahhh, ok. So here's something interesting. I've updated to the latest ROM which gives me WM6.1, Rev. A, and GPS. The one thing that was noticed and corrected pretty quickly was that ICS no longer worked (error 67 problems). A registry hack to remove a reference to a DLL file call was made and it works like a champ, but I've also noticed that being able to select PAM is not longer an option in the connections setting tab. Only SprintPCS is there. Using ICS will automatically choose PAM for you and I've yet to find anything to prevent that. However... I've never seen any additional billing from Sprint from my past usage and I've used it for quite a while. Mainly when I'm not near a hotspot and am meeting with clients to show them some of my online slideshows.

[pony]

Ahhh, ok. So here's something interesting. I've updated to the latest ROM which gives me WM6.1, Rev. A, and GPS. The one thing that was noticed and corrected pretty quickly was that ICS no longer worked (error 67 problems). A registry hack to remove a reference to a DLL file call was made and it works like a champ, but I've also noticed that being able to select PAM is not longer an option in the connections setting tab. Only SprintPCS is there. Using ICS will automatically choose PAM for you and I've yet to find anything to prevent that. However... I've never seen any additional billing from Sprint from my past usage and I've used it for quite a while. Mainly when I'm not near a hotspot and am meeting with clients to show them some of my online slideshows.

Whatever works is good.

I originally bought PDAnet when I had a Treo 700wx (With WM5 and no ICS). Verizon wanted $20/month to tether, so at $36, PDAnet paid for itself in 2 months. Even though I'm on Sprint with a phone that has ICS, I still paid $19 more to upgrade to 2.0. I just like the software.

You can always just try it out if you want to. It will install as a trial for a period of time.

[eagle63]

PDANet 2.0 is out with WM6 enhancements, including the ability to use the phone and data connection simultaneously. Upgrading from 1.80 only costs $19.

So is it official that Rev A supports simultaneous voice/data? Maybe I'm out of the loop, but I thought there was some debate a while back on whether or not it truly allowed for that. Doing some very unofficial testing myself a few minutes ago, I'm unable to do anything data related while on a phone call. (not using PDANet, just in general) I'm fairly certain that I'm in a Rev A location too...

[pony]

So is it official that Rev A supports simultaneous voice/data? Maybe I'm out of the loop, but I thought there was some debate a while back on whether or not it truly allowed for that. Doing some very unofficial testing myself a few minutes ago, I'm unable to do anything data related while on a phone call. (not using PDANet, just in general) I'm fairly certain that I'm in a Rev A location too...

Sort of... here's what June Fabrics says:

Version 2.0 has some significant improvement for Windows Mobile 6.0 phones. In particular, it adds the Proxy Mode feature that allows the phone's radio/modem to be shared by the phone and the computer at the same time. This improves the stability of the PdaNet connection and also allow the phone to be used for voice calls without having to drop the PdaNet connection.

[jhilman]

Ok.. I've installed it on my phone and laptop and have tried it out. Seems to work pretty slick. Though I never really found the old way that much of a hassle. Two finger flicks and a softkey button push and I'm all connected... but PDAnet does allow me to automatically connect when I connect the phone so that's cool. The speed difference is non-exsistant(both methods have the same rate despite the PDAmodem showing 2.4Mbps and the other at 10Mbps... bottleneck is still the network), though BT is marginally slower than USB. I could never actually get BT tethering to work so I always used my USB cable anyway. The biggest thing though is that I'm able once again to use the sprintpcs connection rather than the PAM connection. In theory this will prevent Sprint from hammering me with extra fees or charges. Though I've never seen any additional charges before. I'll use it for a while and see if it's something I can't live without. :)

[pony]

Ok.. I've installed it on my phone and laptop and have tried it out. Seems to work pretty slick. Though I never really found the old way that much of a hassle. Two finger flicks and a softkey button push and I'm all connected... but PDAnet does allow me to automatically connect when I connect the phone so that's cool. The speed difference is non-exsistant(both methods have the same rate despite the PDAmodem showing 2.4Mbps and the other at 10Mbps... bottleneck is still the network), though BT is marginally slower than USB. I could never actually get BT tethering to work so I always used my USB cable anyway. The biggest thing though is that I'm able once again to use the sprintpcs connection rather than the PAM connection. In theory this will prevent Sprint from hammering me with extra fees or charges. Though I've never seen any additional charges before. I'll use it for a while and see if it's something I can't live without. :)

For all the mogul owners out there, they have the option of using the wifi, but yes, for us Touch owners, its USB or bluetooth only...

There isn't much hope in adding wifi to the Touch. The company that makes the wifi SD cards (Spectec) has been dragging its feet on a wireless G micro-sd card. And to make matters worse, the poor design of the Touch's micro SD port (in particular the inaccessibility and the cover over it) will make the final product impractical anyway. Those wifi cards tend to stick out, for the internal antenna.

[eagle63]

Sort of... here's what June Fabrics says:

Version 2.0 has some significant improvement for Windows Mobile 6.0 phones. In particular, it adds the Proxy Mode feature that allows the phone's radio/modem to be shared by the phone and the computer at the same time. This improves the stability of the PdaNet connection and also allow the phone to be used for voice calls without having to drop the PdaNet connection.

Ok, so based on the wording it isn't simultaneous voice/data (how could it be if the carrier technology doesn't allow for it) it just doesn't disconnect you if a call comes in? (or allows you to make a call w/o disconnecting)

[pony]

Ok, so based on the wording it isn't simultaneous voice/data (how could it be if the carrier technology doesn't allow for it) it just doesn't disconnect you if a call comes in? (or allows you to make a call w/o disconnecting)

I guess thats what it means. Personally, I have no idea if the technology can or cannot support it...

[eagle63]

I guess thats what it means. Personally, I have no idea if the technology can or cannot support it...

yeah, UMTS/HSDPA supports it but EVDO does not. (not until Rev B apparently)

[hippityhoppity]

Ok, so based on the wording it isn't simultaneous voice/data (how could it be if the carrier technology doesn't allow for it) it just doesn't disconnect you if a call comes in? (or allows you to make a call w/o disconnecting)
Nope. PDANet really sucks compared to the built-in Internet Sharing app.

With the built-in app, you can make calls or accept calls while online and then return to surfing when you hang up. With PDANet, you are permanently disconnected when a call comes in and you have to re-connect manually afterwards.

So not only is it NOT simultaneous voice and data, it isn't anywhere near as good as the stock MS app.

[gedster314]

Nope. PDANet really sucks compared to the built-in Internet Sharing app.

With the built-in app, you can make calls or accept calls while online and then return to surfing when you hang up. With PDANet, you are permanently disconnected when a call comes in and you have to re-connect manually afterwards.

So not only is it NOT simultaneous voice and data, it isn't anywhere near as good as the stock MS app.

Have you tried version 2.0? How can you say that if you haven't tried the upgraded version that is supposed to be able to do both? It does not suck, if you had a Treo 700wx you would be happy to have the program. I used it trouble free for a long time on my Treo and XP. I found the 64 bit version a little buggy on Vista64.

With my Touch and ICS, I doubt I will pony up $19 for the new version. ICS is working fine for me. You do need to make reg edits to tether with ICS without Pam. Funny how PDANet never needed reg edits.

[hippityhoppity]

Have you tried version 2.0? How can you say that if you haven't tried the upgraded version that is supposed to be able to do both? It does not suck, if you had a Treo 700wx you would be happy to have the program. I used it trouble free for a long time on my Treo and XP. I found the 64 bit version a little buggy on Vista64.

With my Touch and ICS, I doubt I will pony up $19 for the new version. ICS is working fine for me. You do need to make reg edits to tether with ICS without Pam. Funny how PDANet never needed reg edits.
I've obviously tried 2.0 and that's what I'm using now. Please refer to the title of this thread.

[pony]

Nope. PDANet really sucks compared to the built-in Internet Sharing app.

With the built-in app, you can make calls or accept calls while online and then return to surfing when you hang up. With PDANet, you are permanently disconnected when a call comes in and you have to re-connect manually afterwards.

So not only is it NOT simultaneous voice and data, it isn't anywhere near as good as the stock MS app.

Did you even read this thread?

What you describe ICS as being capable of is exactly what PDANet 2.0 does.

[pony]

I've obviously tried 2.0 and that's what I'm using now. Please refer to the title of this thread.

I guess you miss the point of using PDANet. Verizon has already locked down ICS. Its possible Sprint will do the same. On top of that, some people have reported that somehow their "SprintPCS" has reverted back to "Phone as Modem" without them knowing when or how. If any data goes out through that profile, Sprint COULD tell what you are doing.

Also, the registry change may not actually do anything. It is just a string, and for all we know, it could just be a label (name) change with no functional change. So maybe you are using "Phone as Modem" that you just nicknamed "Sprint PCS", but could still be actually using PAM. Since the registry change can't hurt, it is recommended. But should never be counted on.

Just because they haven't done anything about it does not mean that they will never do anything about it, nor does it mean that they are incapable of knowing that you are doing that.

And just because you've never been billed for it doesn't mean that they never will bill you for it. It's also quite possible that when they discover this usage that they could go back and review past logs and also charge you all the past usage from day 1. Would they likely do this, I don't know. And I don't care, because I took the safe route.

I imagine if that did happen, however, you'd likely post "my bill sucks" instead of "PDANet sucks".

[hippityhoppity]

Did you even read this thread?

What you describe ICS as being capable of is exactly what PDANet 2.0 does.
Wrong. Try reading the thread again and focus on what users who have actually used PDANet 2.0 have reported.

As for Verizon, who cares? This forum is www.sprintusers.com. I understand what PDANet is and it's a good service for phones without ICS (though I still like USBModem more), it's just that v2.0 is touted as being much better for WM6+ phones. For phones like the Touch and Mogul, it's actually worse than the stock ICS app.

[eagle63]

Wrong. Try reading the thread again and focus on what users who have actually used PDANet 2.0 have reported.


No one who has posted on this thread has mentioned having to manually reconnect after a phone call. (except apparently you, though it was very unclear from your first post)

So to clarify, you've tried 2.0 and it does NOT allow you to resume data sessions after a call comes in. (in other words, you're forced to manually reconnect) Think of the saved bandwidth if you had just said that! So have you contacted PDANet to tell them that they're advertised feature doesn't work?

[hippityhoppity]

No one who has posted on this thread has mentioned having to manually reconnect after a phone call. (except apparently you, though it was very unclear from your first post)

So to clarify, you've tried 2.0 and it does NOT allow you to resume data sessions after a call comes in. (in other words, you're forced to manually reconnect) Think of the saved bandwidth if you had just said that! So have you contacted PDANet to tell them that they're advertised feature doesn't work?
Read post #18 again. Focus on this part:

"With PDANet, you are permanently disconnected when a call comes in and you have to re-connect manually afterwards."

[huevosrancheros]

I have the old version of PDAnet and it does disconnect when a call comes in (and seemingly at random times, but that's a whole other problem), but I thought the main benefit of 2.0 was that it allows for incoming calls without dropping. Is it deceptive advertising, or just poor reading comprehension on my part?

[hippityhoppity]

I have the old version of PDAnet and it does disconnect when a call comes in (and seemingly at random times, but that's a whole other problem), but I thought the main benefit of 2.0 was that it allows for incoming calls without dropping. Is it deceptive advertising, or just poor reading comprehension on my part?
It MUST disconnect from the data during a call because of the CDMA technology. What ICS does and PDANet claims to do (but doesn't), is reconnect to the data automatically after your call ends so you can resume surfing.

[pony]

It MUST disconnect from the data during a call because of the CDMA technology. What ICS does and PDANet claims to do (but doesn't), is reconnect to the data automatically after your call ends so you can resume surfing.

Maybe you didn't enable the proxy on PDANet

[eagle63]

Read post #18 again. Focus on this part:

"With PDANet, you are permanently disconnected when a call comes in and you have to re-connect manually afterwards."

The confusion was because you didn't mention you had tried version 2.

So did you contact them and ask why it doesn't work?

[hippityhoppity]

Maybe you didn't enable the proxy on PDANet
I used the proxy. It sets up that way as the default setting.

[crak]

I'm using pdanet 2.0 as we speak and I just made a call, ended the call and AUTOMATICALLY connected to the internet. I did not have to click connect on pdanet. What it does it holds all the data transfer until you are done with the call and restarts the transfers when you are done.

[hippityhoppity]

I'm using pdanet 2.0 as we speak and I just made a call, ended the call and AUTOMATICALLY connected to the internet. I did not have to click connect on pdanet. What it does it holds all the data transfer until you are done with the call and restarts the transfers when you are done.
ICS does the same thing but does it better. PDANet doesn't resume very well.

[kicelo]

IMO I do not like programs that "call home". Unless, I am paying for a particular service.

[SL]

anyone know if PDANet will work on something like Asus' Eee PC?

[pony]

IMO I do not like programs that "call home". Unless, I am paying for a particular service.

Well, the other secure method for licensing software would be DRM and TPM being required. But more people would prefer the "phone home" method.

[kicelo]

Well, the other secure method for licensing software would be DRM and TPM being required. But more people would prefer the "phone home" method.


Good point sir

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