The OFFICIAL Yankee-Haters Thread (sticky?)

[wavezero]

Ok, so I had to. Especially given these two threads:

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68132&page=10
and
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157346&page=8

Then I read the following article last night, and this is spring freaking training. Let the hating begin...

3 players, 2 coaches ejected in Yanks-Rays game

Associated Press
Updated: March 12, 2008, 9:15 PM EST
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (AP) - So much for the notion that the New York Yankees and Tampa Bay Rays could settle a gripe without fighting.

Meeting only days after New York manager Joe Girardi complained about Tampa Bay's aggressive play in spring training after one of his players was injured in a home-plate collision, the Yankees brought some attitude of their own into a testy rematch Wednesday.

The bad blood between the Yanks and Rays was evident Wednesday. (Gene J. Puskar / Associated Press)

Shelley Duncan's hard slide into second base with his spikes raised sparked a bench-clearing scrum that resulted in two players and two coaches being ejected during the second inning of Tampa Bay's 7-6 victory.

Duncan, who had hinted at the prospect of retaliating for the Rays' Elliot Johnson barreling over New York catcher Francisco Cervelli last Saturday, spiked second baseman Akinori Iwamura in the right thigh and was immediately tossed.

Tampa Bay's Jonny Gomes was ejected, too, after racing in from right field and ramming into Duncan as other players poured onto the field.

Girardi called the home-plate collision in the first game between the AL East rivals unnecessary. This time it was Tampa Bay manager Joe Maddon's turn to denounce rough play not normally associated with exhibition games.

"In Tampa, that play you saw at home plate was a good, hard baseball play. What you saw today was the definition of a dirty play," Maddon said. "There's no room for that in our game. It's contemptable. It's wrong. It's borderline criminal, and I could not believe they did that."

Among New York players, Duncan was the most vocal in his criticism of the collision that broke Cervelli's right wrist, sidelining the Yankees prospect for eight to 10 weeks and triggering a debate over what's fair play in spring training.

The Yankees first baseman insisted he was not trying to injure Iwamura.

"I'm pretty sure the spikes weren't that high. They were pretty much going straight at the glove," Duncan said. "I've done it before. Never had a reaction like that."

Duncan's hard grounder glanced off third baseman Evan Longoria's glove for an error and rolled up the line in foul territory. Duncan rounded first and hesitated before taking off for second - a move the Rays perceived as conclusive evidence he had ill intentions.

Longoria's throw to Iwamura beat the runner by at least 10 feet, but Duncan went into the bag hard anyway.

"No question that was a blatant attempt to hurt Aki," Maddon said. "It was set up. It was planned. It was premeditated. It's all the above. I don't know what the difference is between that and a high stick in hockey. But it was that bad."

Yankees third base coach Bobby Meacham and hitting coach Kevin Long also were ejected by the umpires, who met with Girardi and Maddon before the game. Crew chief Jerry Crawford had no comment afterward.

New York left-hander Heath Phillips was ejected in the first inning after one of his pitches appeared to graze Longoria's shirt. The Rays already had two runs and three hits in the inning.

"What happened the other day set the tone, showing us how hard they're going to play. You see their intensity level, you try to match it," Duncan said. "We need to wake up a little bit. We need to play hard as well."

Girardi, criticized by former Yankees bench coach and current Rays senior adviser Don Zimmer for comments the New York manager made after Saturday's game, was unapologetic, adding that he would have to see a replay to determine if the play was dirty.

"You don't ever want things to get ugly, and I don't think it got ugly. I think the umpires stopped it before it got ugly," Girardi said.

"Shelley told me that he was taught when you're going to be out, you go after the ball. ... Shelley made a hard, aggressive slide, and I would have to look at a replay to really determine what I thought."

Gomes' view from right field was different.

The 225-pound slugger took off as soon as Duncan slid into Iwamura. He knocked Duncan back a few feet, and the Yankees first baseman held his hands up as if to ask: "What did I do?"

"I wasn't really trying to get a shot in on him. I probably could have done a lot of things worse," Gomes said. "But it is a baseball field, and there are fans and kids watching."

Duncan said he was baffled by the benches clearing. Gomes wasn't buying it.

"He did what he said he was going to do," the Rays outfielder said.

The teams play again in a split-squad game Saturday in Tampa.

Once again, Girardi said he doesn't expect any carry-over. The Rays, who will face the Yankees 18 times during the regular season, aren't so sure.

"It's going to be kind of hard for it not to," Tampa Bay's B.J. Upton said.

"When we go out and play the Yankees the next time, we're going to play it hard and play it right. Period," Maddon said. "That's how we come to the ballpark every day."

Spring training brawls are rare, but there was one at the same ballpark in 1987 after Boston pitcher Al Nipper hit Mets slugger Darryl Strawberry with a pitch - payback for Strawberry's slow home run trot in Game 7 of the 1986 World Series.

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[some18mybrain]

With those two given threads, why couldn't you just post it there? You know...keep all the hating together :)

Also, bad plays happen.....benches clear....brawls sometimes happen......it doesn't just happen with the Yankees.....in fact, the Rays have had fueds with about 4 other teams that I can think of, INCLUDING the Red Sox, Orioles, and Blue Jays.....ALL of their East Coast rivals.......It's baseball.....are we gonna start an OFFICIAL <insert team name> hater's thread every time that happens? I'm saying this both as a Yankee fan, and as a Baseball fan. For it to happen in Spring Training is bad, since it's not for any titles or anything, and you don't want to be injuring anyone before the season starts(hence the Yankees problem with going hard into home plate)....but it's unfortunately a part of the game, and we have to live with it.

[wavezero]

Yeah we could, but I saw a trend developing. I thought we could archive throughout the season the reasons supporting why the Yankees are the "evil empire".

I do agree that going hard to the plate may be uncalled for in spring training, but is very much within the legal and proper rules of the game. And it's a minor leauger (Elliot Johnson) trying to make a name for himself and land a spot in the bigs.
Then on the other hand you have a player (Shelley Duncan) saying he's going to go out and do something, and then pull a DIRTY stunt like that. I think anyone would agree that sliding in cleats high like that is wrong and he intended to hurt someone. It was very obviously premeditated, cheap and dirty.

No, we do not need to start an "OFFICIAL <insert team name> hater's thread" every time this happens. I'm just saying that there are certain organizations, be it businesses or sports clubs, that have a dastardly culture from the top (Hank) to the bottom.

[some18mybrain]

People pull DIRTY plays all the time in defense of their players. How many times have you seen players beaned because someone did something to one of their players. Again, it happens with EVERY team. Nobody is immune to it. I just love how everyone is so quick to hate on the Yankees, because it seems to be the cool thing to do. I myself am not a big fan of Hank either....but it is what it is.....Why put down the entire team because their owner is an ass......

Just like any other team in the major leagues, it's 26 players going out there with one common goal....to win games, and ultimately win a championship.....

[DJRider]

Let me get this straight. In an exhibition game a Tampa Ray player barrels into a rookie catcher and breaks his wrist. The next meeting a Yankee slides into second base hard, playing old time baseball.

The Rays right fielder, I will say this again, the RIGHT FIELDER comes in from the outfield and starts a fight with the Yankee player that slid into second base. Both players are thrown out. It then breaks into a bench clearing brawl. And this is all the Yankees fault?

I'm sorry but thats baseball. All the other teams have ***** envy of the Yankees. Manny grew up in the Bronx and can not stand the fact that the Yankees never wanted him.

Not matter all the trash that is thrown about, the Yankees are the biggest draw, the most successful, and the most recognized team in sports. Take a chill pill and live with it. :tu:

[some18mybrain]

Let me get this straight. In an exhibition game a Tampa Ray player barrels into a rookie catcher and breaks his wrist. The next meeting a Yankee slides into second base hard, playing old time baseball.

The Rays right fielder, I will say this again, the RIGHT FIELDER comes in from the outfield and starts a fight with the Yankee player that slid into second base. Both players are thrown out. It then breaks into a bench clearing brawl. And this is all the Yankees fault?

I'm sorry but thats baseball. All the other teams have ***** envy of the Yankees. Manny grew up in the Bronx and can not stand the fact that the Yankees never wanted him.

Not matter all the trash that is thrown about, the Yankees are the biggest draw, the most successful, and the most recognized team in sports. Take a chill pill and live with it. :tu:

:good::good::good::werd:

[tbakergobuck]

Shelley Duncan knew he was out. He wasn't breaking up a double play so there was no need for a hard slide. He's either a retard that doesn't know how to slide or just another "dirty player". I don't know about you guys but if someone almost cleated me in the nuts they would have hell to pay. :mad::bang: Not sure how you can compare the hard slide into second base to home plate but then again that's a yankee fan for ya. :hee:
Video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YT34FDy9dRM

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/tbaker/mlb_a_duncan_slide_400.jpg

[some18mybrain]

I'm actually not comparing anything to anything......I'm just saying that it happens EVERYWHERE in baseball....not just with the Yankees......it's just that people are always so quick to jump on the "I hate the Yankees" bandwagon.....Let me ask the question this way.....

If this same incident happened in a Rangers/Angels spring training game, would anyone be running in here to start an "OFFICIAL Rangers/Angels Haters thread"? I don't think so.....

[DJRider]

Shelley Duncan was out by 5 feet and he wasn't breaking up a double play. There was no need for a hard slide. He's either a retard that doesn't know how to slide or just another "dirty player". I don't know about you guys but if someone almost cleated me in the nuts they would have hell to pay. :mad::bang: Not sure how you can compare the hard slide into second base to home plate but then again that's a yankee fan for ya. :hee:
Video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YT34FDy9dRM

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/tbaker/mlb_a_duncan_slide_400.jpg

No fight broke out on that play. It was Johnny Gomes who came in from right field and started the brawl. I played college ball and I actually played second base. You know as a second baseman you always expect the player to slide in hard and break up the play. I will say the slide was high, but again the second baseman had no objections.

As a base runner you are trained to do that, its instinct. The second baseman had no problem with the play. The fact of the matter is the right fielder came in to the infield and started the brawl. Whether I be a Yankee fan or not, thats what happened.

As a second baseman you are taught to throw the ball head high to first to make the player get out of the way. Is that an Evil Empire only play too?

If Gomes doesn't come in from the outfield, the play is over and thats the end of it. Don't blame it all on Duncan. The fact of the matter is that Gomes started the brawl.

Edit: After looking at the pic and the video again the second baseman should already have been out of there. Looks like he doesn't know how to make the phantom play! Ive seen harder plays in little league games lol

[YankeeFan01]

No fight broke out on that play. It was Johnny Gomes who came in from right field and started the brawl. I played college ball and I actually played second base. You know as a second baseman you always expect the player to slide in hard and break up the play. I will say the slide was high, but again the second baseman had no objections.

As a base runner you are trained to do that, its instinct. The second baseman had no problem with the play. The fact of the matter is the right fielder came in to the infield and started the brawl. Whether I be a Yankee fan or not, thats what happened.

As a second baseman you are taught to throw the ball head high to first to make the player get out of the way. Is that an Evil Empire only play too?

If Gomes doesn't come in from the outfield, the play is over and thats the end of it. Don't blame it all on Duncan. The fact of the matter is that Gomes started the brawl.

Edit: After looking at the pic and the video again the second baseman should already have been out of there. Looks like he doesn't know how to make the phantom play! Ive seen harder plays in little league games lol

As a former shortstop and alternate second baseman, I gotta say, you hit this on the head.:werd::good::good::good:

:ninja: <-- (Me and my friends doing the wave at a Yankee game!!!)

[NINO63004]

I have played baseball and I didn't really agree that the one player should have hit the yankee catcher. It is exhibition and it is not worth it to do it. It is not worth getting hurt in the game that doesn't really matter.

As for the slide at second. Probably wasnt a good idea but this is baseball and teams have to protect their other teammates. Like mentioned before this happens not just with yankees but with other teams as well.

It's the game of baseball and has happened in the past many times. I do agree it sometimes get to far with some teams.




Nino

[tbakergobuck]

No fight broke out on that play. It was Johnny Gomes who came in from right field and started the brawl. I played college ball and I actually played second base. You know as a second baseman you always expect the player to slide in hard and break up the play. I will say the slide was high, but again the second baseman had no objections.

As a base runner you are trained to do that, its instinct. The second baseman had no problem with the play. The fact of the matter is the right fielder came in to the infield and started the brawl. Whether I be a Yankee fan or not, thats what happened.

As a second baseman you are taught to throw the ball head high to first to make the player get out of the way. Is that an Evil Empire only play too?

If Gomes doesn't come in from the outfield, the play is over and thats the end of it. Don't blame it all on Duncan. The fact of the matter is that Gomes started the brawl.

Edit: After looking at the pic and the video again the second baseman should already have been out of there. Looks like he doesn't know how to make the phantom play! Ive seen harder plays in little league games lolI disagree that the second basemen had no problem with the play. Just looking at the picture and seeing his mouth wide open makes me think that he's like "wow did he just do that". Then the video shows that the second baseman comes back to the base and points to his leg where Duncan slid into him. Two wrongs don't make it right but as you listen to the video Gomes did say that Duncan was going to hurt someone prior to the game. This could've been why Gomes did what he did. :thought: The fact of the matter is if Duncan doesn't slide over the base with his cleat up in the air there would be no brawl.

[penuch]

Man Gomes is an idiot the rays had that coming after coming in hard on the catcher. I am a well know yankee hater but even I don't support fu(_King with peoples career overr a spring training game. i.e the broken wrist. It just isn't worth it. You should never wish bodily harm even or the worst yankee :) hahah Seriously though that play would have been over had Gomes not be an idiot I think he should be fined.

[some18mybrain]

Man Gomes is an idiot the rays had that coming after coming in hard on the catcher. I am a well know yankee hater but even I don't support fu(_King with peoples career overr a spring training game. i.e the broken wrist. It just isn't worth it. You should never wish bodily harm even or the worst yankee :) hahah Seriously though that play would have been over had Gomes not be an idiot I think he should be fined.


:werd::good:

It's good to see that even a non-Yankee fan(and I know how hard that must have been for you :lol: ) can see what we're talking about......Thanks!

[wavezero]

You've got to be kidding me.

Point 1. I'm a hockey goalie, if I were to take a slapshot to the head in an exibition game and end up with a concussion, I would have NO room to complain. It's part of the position, part of the sport. If Cervelli broke his wrist playing his postion, maybe he's too delicate for Major League Baseball? Granted a hard play at the plate may be uncalled for as this contradicts the spirit of spring training. But you have a minor leauger who desperately wants a job, this is the same reason there are so many fights in minor league hockey. Players are trying to show their brass, impress the coaches, and land a job.

Point 2. Why is there a difference between 1st Degree Murder (pre-meditated) and Manslaughter? Johnsons play was in the heat of the moment and I've already discussed the other reasons. Duncan's play was very deliberate and he intended to hurt someone. He said so himself before the game. Did you see him pause after rounding first, where he obviously should have stayed? This would be one thing if it were a hard slide on a close play with none of the pre-game junk, this does happen and it's forgiven. But with these circumstances, come on. Someone try to defend him...

Point 3. Lay off Gomes. I want one of you guys that played competetive sports to tell me that if someone from an opposing team made a threat and then pulled an obvious move like that, you and others wouldn't come to your mate's aid?

Final thought: Yes, stuff like this does happen with all teams. No, we don't need to start a XXXXX-haters thread every time this happens. Again: some orginizations, businesses or teams have a defiant lack of class and respect combined with and abundance of arrogance. The Yankees are such a team.

[some18mybrain]

Ok. Take Hank out of the equation, and you tell me how the Yankee TEAM has a defiant lack of class and respect, or even an abundance of arrogance for that matter. As I said before, you have 26 people that are the same as every other team out there: They are passionate about what they do, and YES, they actually expect to go out there and win every day......call that arrogance if you want, I'd call it PRIDE myself. And as far as the lack of class and respect, if you're siting this ONE incident with Duncan, then that's just poor. First of all, whether it was right or wrong of him to do(not saying at all that I agree with it, because I don't), he was protecting his player, just as a pitcher does when they bean someone that does something to one of their players.

I really don't want to keep having this debate. Unless you have actual facts to back up what you're saying.....and I'm not talking about Hank Steinbrenner....I'm sure everyone knows by now what a clown he is....but hey....we're stuck with him......

Come up with actual Facts that support your statement that they lack class and respect. You can't just throw that statement out there without any information to back up your claim.

As far as the Gomes thing. I kind of agree. If the second baseman wanted to do something about Duncan sliding in high, he would have. Gomes comes running in to "Defend" his player....which according to you is ok to do......then why isn't it ok for Duncan to do the same? Because he said ahead of time that something might happen?? Sorry, but you can't have your cake and eat it too. If it's wrong for one, it should be wrong for all.

[wavezero]

I had started writing this response before I read yours above-
"By the way, this thread was not opened just for this article. I anticipate there to be many more stories as the season progresses.

Remember A-rod yelling "I got it" as he ran from second to third causing the ball to drop in for a hit? Talk about lack of class. This is only one example."

I would love to write a multiple page dissertation as to why the Yankees are the most despicable team in baseball. From ownership (which we can push to the side if you like), to players to base coaches (Zimmerman) to drug use etc. I may find time to do this soon. Yes, you are probably right that many of these elements are found throughout the league, but no where are they as frequent and as prevalent as in the Bronx.

I agree that this discussion (between you and I) should be shelfed until I have the time to produce what is described above. But I would love to hear what other think about this. And again, I speculate that we will see much more of this as the season progresses.

[some18mybrain]

I was going to make another long response post, pointing out the flaws in your previous post once again, but then I thought about it. I don't need to defend them. People are going to think what they want to think, regardless of what you or I say. If people want to hate on the Yankees, they will. Just like if people want to hate on any other team, they will. The only thing I will say in closing(for now) is that the Yankees have the same problems that all other teams have......but because of their fame and name, it's put in the spotlight even more. You can give me an example of any bad thing that's happened with the Yankees, and I'm sure I can give you at least 3 or 4 other teams that have had the same thing happen. I can talk till I'm blue in the face, but a Yankee hater is going to be a Yankee hater is going to be a Yankee hater......nothing can be said to change that. Which is fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions....


Even if they are wrong :p









:joke:

I take this all in fun. It's good to have a debate every once in a while. Please don't take any of what I say as an attack toward you, or as me being upset. It's good to have a nice spirited conversation every once in a while :)

[wavezero]

Even if they are wrong :p









:joke:

I take this all in fun. It's good to have a debate every once in a while. Please don't take any of what I say as an attack toward you, or as me being upset. It's good to have a nice spirited conversation every once in a while :)

I couldn't agree more, and echo your feelings. This is half the fun of being a sports fan! I'm still curious what others think and I'm sure this will pick up again very soon...

[DJRider]

The fact of the matter is if Duncan doesn't slide over the base with his cleat up in the air there would be no brawl.

No, the fact of the matter is if Johnny Gomes stays at his position there would be no brawl!

In addition, do people talk hate about the Indians, the Pirates or the Brewers. In the NFL do people hate the Cardinals, the Falcons, or the Saints etc? NO

Do people trash the Yankees, the Red Sox, or the Braves in baseball etc? In the NFL do people talk hate against the Patriots, the Cowboys, or the Colts etc. YES

The bottom line is people hate winning teams. Do not confuse arrogance with a winning attitude. Like I said people have ***** envy of winning franchises when there own teams stink year after year. I am just happy my team plays to win year after year.

[wavezero]

That's rediculous, and by the way, the indians beat your yanks in the ALCS last year!!

No one hate the Pirates, Brewers, Falcons, Saints, or Cardinals because they have not given anyone a reason to.

People hate the Pats because they're alleged Cheaters, the Cowboys because of TO and the same arrogance and the Colts because of Payton Manning. (I don't agree or disagree with this statement, this is just what I've observed.)

Who hated the Bulls? But people hated the lakers because of Kobe and Shaq.

People don't hate winning teams, they hate jerks.

[wavezero]

I'm sorry, did you say your team plays to win or pays to win?

[DJRider]

That's rediculous, and by the way, the indians beat your yanks in the ALCS last year!!

No one hate the Pirates, Brewers, Falcons, Saints, or Cardinals because they have not given anyone a reason to.

People hate the Pats because they're alleged Cheaters, the Cowboys because of TO and the same arrogance and the Colts because of Payton Manning. (I don't agree or disagree with this statement, this is just what I've observed.)

Who hated the Bulls? But people hated the lakers because of Kobe and Shaq.

People don't hate winning teams, they hate jerks.

People always find excuses to hate winning teams as you have proved in your above statement. And big deal the Indians won a playoff series, it doesn't make them a winning organization.

People hate winners and you proved it my naming all the above players in sports, because simply put, they are winners. People put winners under the microscope, and look for reason to drag them down out of jealousy. Its human nature that laps over into the sports world.

The bottom line is the Yankees have won 26 world championships and it just kills the fans of other teams and makes their skin crawl with jealousy. People will look for any reason to bring them down.

The argument is so ridiculous,,,,The Yankees suck because of what Shelly Duncan did on one play? The guy batted 74 times last year and he represents the Yankee organization? Its just ridiculous.

And in regards to paying to win. Maybe if a city like Seattle put their money into the team, instead of the corporations pockets they might win. I guess its the Yankees fault too that they draw 4 million a year at home and invest it back into the team?

Geeze people get over it, jealousy and hate will eat you up from the inside out.

[some18mybrain]

People hate the Pats because they're alleged Cheaters, the Cowboys because of TO and the same arrogance and the Colts because of Payton Manning. (I don't agree or disagree with this statement, this is just what I've observed.)

Ok....then why did people hate the Pats BEFORE this season, and the cheating allegations, and why did people hate the Cowboys even BEFORE they got TO? I never really cared about the Colts, so I can't really say anything one way or the other about them. :lol:

[DJRider]

Ok....then why did people hate the Pats BEFORE this season, and the cheating allegations, and why did people hate the Cowboys even BEFORE they got TO? I never really cared about the Colts, so I can't really say anything one way or the other about them. :lol:

Totally correct. The Cowboys were hated before TO ever stepped on their playing field. The Patriots were hated too before they even were known to cheat. One reason: they were winners and the fans of the crappy organization resent it, and turn it into a hate thing! Jealousy is the name of the game. It then turns to hate, as the name of this thread implies.

[tbakergobuck]

I'm sorry, did you say your team plays to win or pays to win?:laughing: Exactly... Yanks buy there rings just like Boston. :lol:

[DJRider]

:laughing: Exactly... Yanks buy there rings just like Boston. :lol:

Hey my advice to anyone who believes that:

Support your team and fill your stadiums to have money coming in. Not the Red Sox and Yankees fault that other fans don't fill there stadiums. I guess my money that I pay to the Yankees should go to the Rockies or some other team? I don't think so. Support your teams and fill the stadiums.

And as proven money doesn't win. The facts prove that. If it did, why aren't the Yankees the World Champions the last 7 years? I rest my case!

[some18mybrain]

:laughing: Exactly... Yanks buy there rings just like Boston. :lol:

Riight....that's why a majority of their team is from their OWN farm system. :)

[wavezero]

Apparently MLB agrees with me:

Yankees:
Shelley Duncan 3 game suspension
Melky Cabrera 3 game suspension
Joe Girardi $ fine
Bobby Meacham $ fine
Kevin Long $ fine

Rays:
Jonny Gomes 2 game suspension

Interperting the message: The Yankees were much more at fault, especially seeing they fined the Yankees coaches. When you fine a coach, you're assiging blame and wrong doing.

Here's the article:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7911862?MSNHPHMA

As I said, well see how the season plays (or pays) out...

[some18mybrain]

That just means the Yankees were more involved in the brawl.....and the coaches got fined because it was probably considered a "retaliation" play....just like when a Manager gets ejected and fined for his pitcher throwing at a batter after the benches have been warned...Gomes got his suspension because his hot headedness started the whole thing. :)

And I still don't see how this ONE incident gives the Yankees the stigma that you're assigning to them......

[wavezero]

Ok, so I had to. Especially given these two threads:

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68132&page=10
and
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157346&page=8

Then I read the following article last night, and this is spring freaking training. Let the hating begin...

I had started writing this response before I read yours above-
"By the way, this thread was not opened just for this article. I anticipate there to be many more stories as the season progresses.


No, not ONE incident, the first of many to be documented here.

[some18mybrain]

No, not ONE incident, the first of many to be documented here.

Ohhhh....so now you're Nostradomus, predicting the future? Sorry, I didn't realize we were in the presence of greatness :p

[psmith16]

wow, I haven't really been around in a while but.....since when did we just start making "I hate xxxxx team" thread? :ohcrap:

That amazes me, how can you sit there and compare hocky to baseball. Unless you TOOK off your helmet and TOOK a slap shot to the head you have no idea what it feels like. I played baseball up through college I was a pitcher and 3rd baseman and to be ran over like that was uncalled for.

This is spring training, do you really think you will be called up running over players and injuring them during spring training. NO, its not going to happen. Until the S0x win as many WORLD TITLES as the Yanks they have no room to talk. A lot of this is nonsense. When you play baseball you are taught to slide in hard EVERYTIME, and you are taught to aim for the glove (but that was stupid to raise his cleats that high).. Just like how you are taught to Run all the way to first even if you are out. That is just hustle but to actually injure a player when NOTHING counts is foolish. If you would Really like we can start posting threads about how many bonehead mistakes the S0x have done in the past up until now (But hey, the season is still EARLY. They have lots of time). And back to the hocky, seriously man, you would have been better off saying rugby. Hocky is in no way compareable to baseball, ice, grass, hockey stick, bat, 1 metal blade per foot, 9 little metal blades per foot. Its not close. People need better things to do than create post that TRY to belittle a GREAT, HISTORIC, AUTHENTIC TEAM :headbang2 Please, like I said when the S0x win close to as many WORLD SERIES TITLES as the YANKS :hee: then come talk some more but THEY NEED TO PROVE THEMSELVES to everybody and not just do ok every once in a while. Maybe this year might be different but its to early to tell. If you want to hate than do that but to make post like this is crazy :music: . TO HIS, HIS OWN!!!!

[DJRider]

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[tbakergobuck]

Jim Rome is bustin Hank Steinbrenner chops for the comments he's made. :lol:

[some18mybrain]

Yeah....I wonder if Hank even realizes that his comments do more harm than good for the Yankees organization. :indiff:

[DJRider]

Jim Rome is as big of a jerk as Hank is!

[tbakergobuck]

I think the only thing that Rome and Hank have in common is that they both like to talk. Hank just doesn't think before he talks. :lol:

[DJRider]

I think the only thing that Rome and Hank have in common is that they both like to talk. Hank just doesn't think before he talks. :lol:

I agree. But the problem with Rome is he does think before he talks, and he still had no clue about sports. Just ask Jim Everett. lol Thats why he has no credibility and has been punched out in the studio! Jim Rome is burning ,,,,the show should be burnt right off the air :laughing:

[tbakergobuck]

I agree. But the problem with Rome is he does think before he talks, and he still had no clue about sports. Just ask Jim Everett. lol Thats why he has no credibility and has been punched out in the studio! Jim Rome is burning ,,,,the show should be burnt right off the air :laughing:Wow you agree with me. :rolleyes: I like Jim Rome because he tell it how it is and I think he knows his Sports. The Everett thing was pretty funny. Even though Everett told Rome not to call him Chris to his face again Rome still had the balls to say it. :lol: No punches thrown just a love push which Rome fell because of the stairs. I wouldn't be surprised if they planned it for ratings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7txYT1P1S4

[DJRider]

Wow you agree with me. :rolleyes: I like Jim Rome because he tell it how it is and I think he knows his Sports. The Everett thing was pretty funny. Even though Everett told Rome not to call him Chris to his face again Rome still had the balls to say it. :lol: No punches thrown just a love push which Rome fell because of the stairs. I wouldn't be surprised if they planned it for ratings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7txYT1P1S4

Lol It was really funny. Actually I agree with your take on sports for the most part and I am a sports nut just like you. The only thing we really don't agree on is that we both support our local teams. So actually we do agree there also. :)

And for whats it's worth I did root for your Indians after they beat the Yankees. Uh oh I just let that cat out of the bag! :tu:

Also we both drink Coors Light and are phone whores too :laughing:

[tbakergobuck]

Lol It was really funny. Actually I agree with your take on sports for the most part and I am a sports nut just like you. The only thing we really don't agree on is that we both support our local teams. So actually we do agree there also. :)

And for whats it's worth I did root for your Indians after they beat the Yankees. Uh oh I just let that cat out of the bag! :tu:

Also we both drink Coors Light and are phone whores too :laughing:I had to quote you just in case you changed your mind about rooting for my Indians. lol I have a few friends that we can't talk sports because there Michigan or Steeler fans. lol On a different note I think there are a lot of people that just wear Yankee stuff not because there a fan because it's a fad. I must admit that it makes me sick when I see Lebron wearing a Yankee hat. I got a kick out of that when Cleveland fans made him take it off.

[DJRider]

I had to quote you just in case you changed your mind about rooting for my Indians. lol I have a few friends that we can't talk sports because there Michigan or Steeler fans. lol On a different note I think there are a lot of people that just wear Yankee stuff not because there a fan because it's a fad. I must admit that it makes me sick when I see Lebron wearing a Yankee hat. I got a kick out of that when Cleveland fans made him take it off.

I remember that story and for what its worth I hate pink Yankee hats lol I wont discuss basketball since Cablevision bought the Knicks and let the franchise just rot away. :irked:

[MURF]

I simply want a level playing field in competition, being a former player, I love the game of baseball. I love to play it still, watch it in person, on tv, on the radio, etc... The Yankees SUCK!!! They are the antithesis of a level playing field! I take great pleasure when a small market team kicks their butt!

[some18mybrain]

The Yankees SUCK!!! They are the antithesis of a level playing field!

Why is that? As djvulcan already stated, why should people hate a team where the owners actually put money BACK INTO IT?? There are only a few teams that do that.....the others are too busy eating up the profits of the team. Just because a team draws fans, and makes money....and puts it back where it belongs, in the team....that's no reason to hate them. Yeah, they do pay their players a lot, but need I remind everyone again.....most of their team comes from their own farm system. There are a few players that everyone is crying an complaining about, and that's usually because their team couldn't afford to bring them there. Forget A-Rod and Giambi.....look around that field, and tell me how many players came up through the organization. Then look at some other high payroll teams.....and tell me where a lot of their players came from.....other teams.....

As has been stated before, people are jealous of success, and will always find reasons to hate the Yankees. I just wish sometimes people would bring up valid reasons, and not fall back on the old standards that usually don't hold any water......

[jimmyeat311]

im gonna put it this way...i am probably one of the biggest sox fans you will find...do i hate the yankees? yes!...why? becasue they are a quality team and my teams arch rivals...why does anyone hate another team...you usually dont hate teams that actually suck...(how many people hate the devil rays or the royals...not many guessing just their own fans)..but besides that...everything that happend at the spring training game was bull****...from the slide to gomes bein an idiot...everything. i will also agree with some of the great posters in here and say...all teams do stupid things...ive seen a red sox minor leaguer (izzy alcantrais...something like that) kick a catcher in the face and try to take on the whole other team. i mean sometimes in the heat of the game you do stupid things. dont get me wrong sox fans i am not sticking up for the yanks at all.. i am just saying give it a little rest and wait til the season starts and we can beat them on the field instead of just saying we are better...we can prove it.

[DJRider]

Jimmy is right. The reason I hate the Red Sox is the same reason he hates the Yankees. Its a rivalry. And both teams are excellent. Both teams have spent money and both teams make money. If you hate them because their owners put the money back into the team so be it.

I don't feel sorry for people for example in Toronto. They used to sell out every game and won the world series . I should feel sorry for them because their fans don't support the team any more? Do you think its just a coincidence that when the attendance dropped so did the team in the standings?

My advice to all the haters is buy a bottle of Pepto Bismol because if it makes you hate when the Yankees win, its going to be a long summer for you. Spend your money on your team and support them. Its pretty funny when some of these teams that are so hateful of the Yankees, only sell out their home games when the Yankees are in town.

The majority of the Yankee team came through their minor league system. The crying that they bought their team is just "crying wolf." If people really knew baseball they would see the roster has a majority of the players from their minor leagues and were not "bought."

As for this Yankee fan I am glad we "suck." I am glad Steinbrenner is a big idiot and puts his money back into the team and not in his pockets like some other franchise owners. I am also sure that although we suck, the Yankee fans and the Red Sox fans are going to have one enjoyable, exciting summer.
For the haters, its going to be a real long summer :haha:

[jimmyeat311]

i know im right...haha thats why i wrote it

[DJRider]

Where have all the Red Sox fans gone?

[BTMark]

Still here, but with Tampa doing so well, we're all waiting with baited breath to see them fall ;)

[some18mybrain]

I'm waiting for the Rays' monumental fall from grace.....and hopefully with a good series against the Sox this weekend, the Yankees will be in a good position in the AL East...

[MURF]

Nuff Said! :td:

[some18mybrain]

Thanks for adding such a well thought out post to the discussion. :indiff:

[DJRider]

Thanks for adding such a well thought out post to the discussion. :indiff:

Yes it always adds so much to the thread. I guess I have to look up the thread where I had the definition of suck listed :tu:

Yes.....http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157346&page=7

Post # 95

Yes the Yankees suck! :laughing:

The Rays and Sox better look behind them and see who has caught up to them. Just a matter of time till we pass them.

[enob]

With the recent trade for Xavier Nady and Damaso Marte I can smell number 27 already... It will be nice raising the championship flag in the new stadium next year...

[some18mybrain]

Hell yeah it will! GO YANKEES!

[DJRider]

Yes the smell of victory is in the air!