Sanyo Pro 700 & 800 series coming out soon?

[Mikecintel]

Hi Everyone,

Does anyone know when Sanyo Pro 700 & 800 are coming out for Sprint.

Mike

[w7excursion]

No news on them yet. (Deval would say we dont know if they are coming at all)

[sprintguy]

200 and 700 are coming, no word on the 800. deval wouldn't say even if he did know so as not to risk his job unlike person51 did a few weeks ago.

[james2K]

i still have the pics person51 posted if anyone wants to see them? there was definitely the pro 700 in one of them, i wonder if the 200 was the white one....

[C1787GJ]

I wanna see please :) :)

[james2K]

okay i have them at home so laters k?

[C1787GJ]

Sounds good to me :) Thank you sir

[shattereddove]

me too?

[w7excursion]

I have them also but we can't post them right?

[DrewSG3]

I would to see them too. PM them to me, please. :)

[viperboy]

PM pics too, please?

[sprintguy]

the white was the preproduction test version of the 700. 200 is very similar but smaller.

[Deval]

I'm really waiting to see where Sprint will go with the RevA phones...now that 95% of NJ is fully RevA

[Teck_72]

If you don't mind, I'd also like to see the pictures. PM me them if possible.

[Deval]

Is the thread still active?

[james2K]

i'll PM them to everyone later today.

I had some issues that prevented me from being online for a couple days, but things are getting back to normal :)

Sorry for the delay!

[jerseypimp]

I'm really waiting to see where Sprint will go with the RevA phones...now that 95% of NJ is fully RevA
Im in nj how can I tell if Im on rev A.

[gumby420h]

some one send them to me please thanks

[cbrutananadilew]

i would love to see them, please.

[wizziko]

can you send them to me also, thanks

[thingnblah]

sorry to sound redundant but i would also like to see these pictures if possible.

[james2K]

that's too many ppl to PM. lol

i'm gonna roll the dice and post these :hee: they can't fire me

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f296/james2k6/1200206752.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f296/james2k6/1200206750.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f296/james2k6/1200206748.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f296/james2k6/1200206747.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f296/james2k6/1200206744.jpg

[YPG]

Nice! Thanks :)

[Dubspoon]

Looking at Sanyo over the last few years, the pros don't seem all that promising. None of thier highends had a shelf life of more than 9 months so if we even see these how long will they be on shelves. What's on display is hardly midrange so I guess that bodes well

[JohnnyDetroit]

I love the look of the black one with that aluminum bezel around the outer LCD. Sweeet! I'm a diehard Sanyo fan, and hope that this model is finally the step up from the M1 that i've been waiting for. Do you know if it is the uplevel version of the Pro series phones? Or are both models you show are the same phone, just different colors?

Thanks for the pics!

JohnnyD

[thingnblah]

i have to agree with dubspoon, when the M1 came out it seemed as if most stores never even had it on display and a few months later it was replaced by the upstage as sprints new "flagship" phone and was thus never really promoted.

[knytphal]

Those are really nice. The black one, isn't that the 800? I don't recall. That's the one that I would prefer between those two.

[shamefulzero]

Those are really nice. The black one, isn't that the 800? I don't recall. That's the one that I would prefer between those two.
no its the 700. i believe the 800 has a speaker on the front (kinda like the 8100) plus a mp cam?

i hope

[yappering]

Whats with all these thin wussy phones Sanyo now produce. Can't they make some real phone for real men like they used to which actually had a battery life?

[Cheatachu72]

thanks for posting those...looks interesting

[aschlect]

NOOOO !!! Not another Sanyo half-baked keypad. I thought that was remedied with the new katanas !

[Deval]

Im in nj how can I tell if Im on rev A.

www.sprint.com/coverage

[Deval]

yep...those are the pictures of the demo phones which will not be available in retail which got Person51 fired

[knytphal]

www.sprint.com/coverage

OK. So does that mean that if one is in the "Sprint Mobile Broadband" (orange) coverage area that they will in fact have EVDO Rev A coverage when devices become available? I've tried looking through the coverage site, but its never really been too clear on that. Or am I just missing it?

[shamefulzero]

yep...those are the pictures of the demo phones which will not be available in retail which got Person51 fired

wow he got fired! shoot. suers just got serious!

[Deval]

yeah he made a post about it in the original thread.

and yes, if it is orange, that is RevA

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1625896&postcount=202

that is the thread/post I was referring to

[tijkane]

Originally Posted by Deval
yep...those are the pictures of the demo phones which will not be available in retail which got Person51 fired

wow he got fired! shoot. suers just got serious!

Please people don't risk your job just to tell us new phones are coming out. Most of us will not even buy the phones when they come out and we will not help you pay your bills when they are due.
You get nothing more than a "thank you for posting". Be smart

[Deval]

Please people don't risk your job just to tell us new phones are coming out. Most of us will not even buy the phones when they come out and we will not help you pay your bills when they are due.
You get nothing more than a "thank you for posting". Be smart

exactly...but some people like the spotlight :thought:

[Teck_72]

Does anyone still have pics of the 900? that's the one that i liked the best when i saw glimpses.

[Deval]

I know someone had blurry shots of a fake prototype device

[P11guy]

wow, phones look nice, that black one looks like an upgrade from 7050
anyone know if these are q-chat?

[copterpilot]

On the plus side it looks like they are trying to keep the good wounding external speakers which have been unique to Sanyo. They need to fix the keyboard so the whole thing lights up. And why can't they put in a bigger screen? I'm still waiting for a decent replacement for my MM-5600!!!

[9000 BABY]

yet another ugly sanyo phone. i will never come back to sanyo until they make better looking phones so cheap yuck!

[knytphal]

I had thought that those were just test devices, the final design was not yet decided?

[shamefulzero]

i just hope the sidekick 900 comes out!. if so. im buying 2 full price w/o trying to weesel em out of sprint.

[Deval]

wow, phones look nice, that black one looks like an upgrade from 7050
anyone know if these are q-chat?

I believe these are the q-chat phones

[C1787GJ]

lol they keypad thing is kind of funny. you think by 2008 they would have noticed and fixed that :)

[CMSprint]

Sanyo Pro 200 and 700 will both be released in March. First QChat phones.

[Dubspoon]

I remember reading about the 200, 700 and the 900 but the 800 is a mystery, so far only the 900 can be considered a replacement for the M1. IMO

[loveshinesthru]

did that poster really mean sidekick 900 or sanyo 900? i would love a sidekick myself. but then again maybe i like my centro too much now.. lol.

[Kihorun]

Please oh please, Sanyo offer another 2 MP camera. We're almost ten years into the 21st century, 1.3 MP is bull.

[loveshinesthru]

no kidding how about a 3mp camera phone?

[shamefulzero]

no kidding how about a 3mp camera phone?
there where threads couple months back with this dude who swore his eyes could see the blurry pics clear. anyways he said the pro 800 had a 3.0mp cam with 2 qgva screens in and out with 262k in color res. along with a speaker on the outside. lol

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=141814&highlight=pro+800+specs

[Dubspoon]

Going by the pics that have been posted the 200 and 700 look like a variant of the Katana/DLX's, we've speculated the 900 will be sidekick like. So does that mean the 800 might replace the M1

[Deval]

well the fun part is...we will not know...not for a while at least. After seeing someone get fired for talking about the Pro 700 (I believe), I doubt most people who actually know something will risk their jobs for it.

[KevC84]

Agreed as much or as little as I know I would not risk it. But in the end someone always does.

[SL-10]

that's too many ppl to PM. lol

i'm gonna roll the dice and post these :hee: they can't fire me

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f296/james2k6/1200206752.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f296/james2k6/1200206750.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f296/james2k6/1200206748.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f296/james2k6/1200206747.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f296/james2k6/1200206744.jpg

Nice pics...:clap:

[Deval]

:funny:

good one

[Quill]

Please do not offer to sell things outside of the SU Trading Post. Next post like that in this thread will get points.

[Deval]

so anyway...back to thread...my thoughts are...these phones will be simple...nothing too fancy...start getting people off iDEN...the fancy ones will come later. Kinda like the power source phones...the simple i402 and i502, then the i902.

[knytphal]

I would tend to agree with you - but wouldn't you think that as a user of a more feature full DC phone one would tend to look down at a simpler qchat device? I don't know that I would switch unless it was something that was at least comparable.

But then, I've never even really looked at the DC or qchat phones before because it's not a feature that I require at this point in time.

[Deval]

I would tend to agree with you - but wouldn't you think that as a user of a more feature full DC phone one would tend to look down at a simpler qchat device? I don't know that I would switch unless it was something that was at least comparable.

But then, I've never even really looked at the DC or qchat phones before because it's not a feature that I require at this point in time.

yeah but when I worked in the retail stores, I saw more simple PTT devices than anything else coming in.

[Climatronic]

so anyway...back to thread...my thoughts are...these phones will be simple...nothing too fancy...start getting people off iDEN...the fancy ones will come later. Kinda like the power source phones...the simple i402 and i502, then the i902.

The lax attitude you are stipulating above is the very reason the Sprint Corporation as a whole is on the brink of falling apart. The days of waiting months to roll out the actual mass market phones people want to buy need to end. If they think they're going to be releasing "simple" phones with the very technology they are banking to save the ship, well, that's just a giant pipe dream. Aggressive action within the company needs to be taken to rid Sprint of it's current culture of laziness. That's great that you sell a lot of low end phones, have you looked at Sprint's finances and subscriber numbers lately? Spring is failing with it's high-paying business and consumer customers. Unfortunetly for them, not everyone is on subprime credit.

[indianolmatt]

Hey guys, I could use a little help. My pocket pc quit working a week ago so my local sprint store was sending me a treo through my insurance to replace it…the phone I just received looks exactly like the 700 you guys are discussing. It has a number on it’s face: P700N237 . Can anyone tell me what this phone is and does etc? Thank you

[james2K]

can you post a pic?

[indianolmatt]

I can go get a camera. I used my pocket pc's mostly. This model (p700) does not have a camera on it as well. But like I said, I can get something up in a bit. Can you tell me anything about this phone? I have not activated it yet and am probably going to take it up to my local sprint store this evening unless I hear something very interesting about it.

[james2K]

if you somehow got that phone it's a huge mistake on LL/Sprint's part because the person who posted the pics in this thread got fired. i bet they can't even activate it.

awaiting pics :fingers:

[indianolmatt]

what is the qchat you guys were talking about?

[james2K]

you can search the forums for q-chat theres a ton of info

[Deval]

The lax attitude you are stipulating above is the very reason the Sprint Corporation as a whole is on the brink of falling apart. The days of waiting months to roll out the actual mass market phones people want to buy need to end. If they think they're going to be releasing "simple" phones with the very technology they are banking to save the ship, well, that's just a giant pipe dream. Aggressive action within the company needs to be taken to rid Sprint of it's current culture of laziness. That's great that you sell a lot of low end phones, have you looked at Sprint's finances and subscriber numbers lately? Spring is failing with it's high-paying business and consumer customers. Unfortunetly for them, not everyone is on subprime credit.

and of course, you are the subject matter expert on marketing, finance, product development, and everything else which hundreds of people deal with daily.

There is alot more involved in releasing phones than just reading about it on a web board.

[Climatronic]

and of course, you are the subject matter expert on marketing, finance, product development, and everything else which hundreds of people deal with daily.

There is alot more involved in releasing phones than just reading about it on a web board.

And with all due respect, are you? Even Sprint's new CEO has acknoledged that their handset selection needs to be quickly ramped up. This "wait for 6 months" attitude that CEBU employees is why Sprint has the phone selection is does. I don't care how smart the marketing, finance and product development people are, becuase one look at Sprint's fourth quarter results tell me their not. Just wondering, but have you cared to look at them? Sprint Corp. is in dire straights at the current time.

[RicoRich196]

if you somehow got that phone it's a huge mistake on LL/Sprint's part because the person who posted the pics in this thread got fired. i bet they can't even activate it.

awaiting pics :fingers:


They really got fired? How do you know?

[james2K]

They really got fired? How do you know?

person51 did indeed get fired.

his post

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1625896&postcount=202

from

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130401&highlight=q-chat

where the pics i posted were originaly posted.

i wonder if the guy who said he got it from insurance is bs'ing us. that would be sooooo crazy if he got the 700 like that when it's 'top secret', seeing as person51 lost his job from posting them.

[Marlon_JB2]

Pics. Please.

[knytphal]

Yep....there needs to be a "this post is worthless without pics" smiley to go along with TTIWWP's...

[shamefulzero]

:needpict:

[w7excursion]

I can go get a camera. I used my pocket pc's mostly. This model (p700) does not have a camera on it as well. But like I said, I can get something up in a bit. Can you tell me anything about this phone? I have not activated it yet and am probably going to take it up to my local sprint store this evening unless I hear something very interesting about it.
Where did ya go?

[knytphal]

Where did ya go?

He had to go find a camera! ;)

[kewlazme]

Well this is, as usual, disheartening. I was hoping for a Pro800 in Q1 but if the best they can do is some mid-range qchat then I am lookin at the mogul for my next phone in the interim.

[jrdhmmr]

With Kyocera's buyout of Sanyo, we may never see the Pro 700 & 800. I love my M1 for features, but I have to say that my MM7500 is by far the best built phone I've ever had.

What would be nice if Kyocera takes over where Sanyo wouldn't go. Build a phone with the ruggedness of the MM7500 (or how about the military spec 7050?) and all the best features of the MM9000 and the M1. Then they'd finally have a phone that was actually worth what they charge us.

[P11guy]

Where did ya go?


lets face it, indianolmatt has been kidnapped by sprint so he wouldnt be able to post those pictures. Damn.

[Marlon_JB2]

With Kyocera's buyout of Sanyo, we may never see the Pro 700 & 800.


What makes you say this? The Pro 700 and Pro 800 are WAY TOO FAR in the development cycle to cancel them. It would be an absolute waste of engineering funds.

[RicoRich196]

lets face it, indianolmatt has been kidnapped by sprint so he wouldnt be able to post those pictures. Damn.

LMAO :lol: that was a good one.

[RicoRich196]

person51 did indeed get fired.

his post

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1625896&postcount=202

from

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130401&highlight=q-chat

where the pics i posted were originaly posted.

i wonder if the guy who said he got it from insurance is bs'ing us. that would be sooooo crazy if he got the 700 like that when it's 'top secret', seeing as person51 lost his job from posting them.

See this is BS IMO Sprint keeps everything under such lock and key. It's people like Person51 who posted pics and info on phones that were coming that HAS KEPT ME WITH SPRINT. If there was no information on future phones (read: nothing to look forward to on Sprint's horrid line up of sh*t phones) I would've left a long time ago. So thank you to the Person51s of SU and that's F'ed up that SU sold out his IP Address like that. Person51s post probably single handedly kept hundreds of customers on Sprint.

[Marlon_JB2]

See this is BS IMO Sprint keeps everything under such lock and key. It's people like Person51 who posted pics and info on phones that were coming that HAS KEPT ME WITH SPRINT. If there was no information on future phones (read: nothing to look forward to on Sprint's horrid line up of sh*t phones) I would've left a long time ago. So thank you to the Person51s of SU and that's F'ed up that SU sold out his IP Address like that. Person51s post probably single handedly kept hundreds of customers on Sprint.

The IP address isn't what got him fired.

See that number on the phone, above the keypad?

That is what got him fired. Had he blocked that out of the photo, he may have had a chance.

[jrdhmmr]

What makes you say this? The Pro 700 and Pro 800 are WAY TOO FAR in the development cycle to cancel them. It would be an absolute waste of engineering funds.

Well, I certainly hope you're right, but it wouldn't really be a loss to Kyocera. Sanyo has already eaten the loss. Also, I was thinking of the patent wars that were going on. I'm not 100% up to date on that, but it might be possible that Kyocera will find it more advantageous for them to let it go and steer things in a slightly different direction.

I really hope that the Pro 800 does get released though, & soon, I'm ready for at least 1 upgrade.

[Marlon_JB2]

Well, I certainly hope you're right, but it wouldn't really be a loss to Kyocera. Sanyo has already eaten the loss. Also, I was thinking of the patent wars that were going on. I'm not 100% up to date on that, but it might be possible that Kyocera will find it more advantageous for them to let it go and steer things in a slightly different direction.

I really hope that the Pro 800 does get released though, & soon, I'm ready for at least 1 upgrade.

I should have said resources instead of funds.... They can cancel it (I doubt it), but it's still a waste of time and money.

[shamefulzero]

any new news on the pro 200?

[shamefulzero]

http://www.eamobile.com/Web/Catalog/US/en/game/mobile/ChangeNewCarrierActionHtml/carrier-3

i found this site which post games by EA that are down loadable for phones.

Found the sanyo pro200 & pro700 and the lg lx400 listed as phones (although it says photo unavalible)

though its good hopes!

[P11guy]

See this is BS IMO Sprint keeps everything under such lock and key. It's people like Person51 who posted pics and info on phones that were coming that HAS KEPT ME WITH SPRINT. If there was no information on future phones (read: nothing to look forward to on Sprint's horrid line up of sh*t phones) I would've left a long time ago. So thank you to the Person51s of SU and that's F'ed up that SU sold out his IP Address like that. Person51s post probably single handedly kept hundreds of customers on Sprint.

I agree it is messed up.
BUT also you have to look at it like this, person51 knew what he was getting himself into. He knew he should have taken extra precautions but didnt.
Think of it like any time you've been in trouble before, either with your folks, significant other, law, employer whoeva you dont wanna get caught you cover you ass 110%. Unfortunelty person51 didnt.

[Deval]

See this is BS IMO Sprint keeps everything under such lock and key. It's people like Person51 who posted pics and info on phones that were coming that HAS KEPT ME WITH SPRINT. If there was no information on future phones (read: nothing to look forward to on Sprint's horrid line up of sh*t phones) I would've left a long time ago. So thank you to the Person51s of SU and that's F'ed up that SU sold out his IP Address like that. Person51s post probably single handedly kept hundreds of customers on Sprint.

BS? You apparently have never worked for a company which has internal information which should stay internal. If you really believe that this person kept hundreds of customers on Sprint, you are the bigger fool?

[RicoRich196]

How many people that were kept on Sprint is questionable yes, but what I am saying is Sprint keeps everything **hush hush* and we never hear about future phones.

[Marlon_JB2]

While you both have great points, here's the thing though: The number of people that view this site and other "gadget" sites are so tiny in comparison to Sprint's subscriber base. Go out on the street and ask everyone you see with Sprint if they've heard of the PRO series.

$5 says if you do it for 8 hours, you will not find one person who has heard or seen of this phone.

[Deval]

How many people that were kept on Sprint is questionable yes, but what I am saying is Sprint keeps everything **hush hush* and we never hear about future phones.

Yes, just like every other company in the entire country. Do you say the same about Honda with their test mules of new cars?

[Marlon_JB2]

Yes, just like every other company in the entire country. Do you say the same about Honda with their test mules of new cars?
You still in love with Honda? I thought you were over them by now. :p

[P11guy]

so how bout those pro series phones, yay:wavey:

[kewlazme]

oh. Sprint finally gonna get a good phone! It's a samsung (m-800 (http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=152141)) but if it drops before the pro I'll be forced to put my relationship on pause with Sanyo and have an affair with Samsung.

[RicoRich196]

Yes, just like every other company in the entire country. Do you say the same about Honda with their test mules of new cars?


The car industry is not the same as the cellphone industry. And you can come to expect a new Accord on a yearly basis, that is not the case with cellphones. Also the competition in the car industry is completely different. "Sprint won't release information on the successor to the Sanyo M1 as to not provide Verizon with ideas to improve their LG Chocolate"? Makes no sense, however Honda keeping info on their next Accord under wraps because it directly competes with the Toyota Camry is an entirely different and understandable situation. All I am asking is how do we [Sprint Customers] LOSE if we know more information about future Sprint devices?

[Deval]

The car industry is not the same as the cellphone industry. And you can come to expect a new Accord on a yearly basis, that is not the case with cellphones. Also the competition in the car industry is completely different. "Sprint won't release information on the successor to the Sanyo M1 as to not provide Verizon with ideas to improve their LG Chocolate"? Makes no sense, however Honda keeping info on their next Accord under wraps because it directly competes with the Toyota Camry is an entirely different and understandable situation. All I am asking is how do we [Sprint Customers] LOSE if we know more information about future Sprint devices?

You would be surprised...maybe if you worked for the company, you would understand why someone got fired for posting info.

Someone else wanna try explaining this? :thought:

[RicoRich196]

Okay so just answer this: "All I am asking is how do we [Sprint Customers] LOSE if we know more information about future Sprint devices?" That's all I really want to know.

Also are you really trying to say that my argument about the car industry makes NO sense?

[Deval]

because you do not realize that 'we' are not the only ones who see this information.

[RicoRich196]

:( I just want better phones! Shoot me.

[Godmera]

Actual I don't think they mind some of the info getting out, it helps them guage customer interest and stuff. They just don't want to much inside info getting out.:thought: Where they draw the line is anyones guess.

[Deval]

The line gets drawn whenever someone gets a pink slip :lol:

[Marlon_JB2]

The line gets drawn whenever someone gets a pink slip :lol:

Pretty much, sadly. I'd hate to see anyone lose their job, but um...

something like that is inexcusable.

[P11guy]

all that really matters is if someone wants to risk there job to show off new phones, its really on them. If your job was working for a company (any company doesnt matter) and they said this information is all top secret, no one is alowed to see it.

Then you take pictures of it and share with everyone, you know whats gonna happen.

Regardless of who you work for.

[kewlazme]

New sprint photos leaked! I hope it doesn't cost me my job!

http://unclutterer.com/wp-content/uploads/mt/070927-old-cell-phone.jpg
http://files.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_on_1_26_2005_06_19_50/old-cell-4.jpg69db54d8-0f85-4382-93a4-fc0f44b45e08Large.jpg

:lol::lol::lol::haha:

[knytphal]

^^Those are some SWEET shots! When can we expect a release?

:D

[w7excursion]

Isn't that the new Samsung ABC-69 ?

[kewlazme]

Isn't that the new Samsung ABC-69 ?

Actually that's the Motorola - "1" :) First phone of its kind :) They are starting from scratch :)
:cool::D

[P11guy]

New sprint photos leaked! I hope it doesn't cost me my job!

http://unclutterer.com/wp-content/uploads/mt/070927-old-cell-phone.jpg
http://files.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_on_1_26_2005_06_19_50/old-cell-4.jpg69db54d8-0f85-4382-93a4-fc0f44b45e08Large.jpg

:lol::lol::lol::haha:


WOW new Qchat phones

[Marlon_JB2]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/marlonjbt/2c_1.jpg
;)

I will not list my sources for this photo. I just know she tests new phone models.

[whiteshadow]

On the plus side it looks like they are trying to keep the good wounding external speakers which have been unique to Sanyo. They need to fix the keyboard so the whole thing lights up. And why can't they put in a bigger screen? I'm still waiting for a decent replacement for my MM-5600!!!

sprint will never make a vision phone like the 5600 ever. until power vision and blackberry start waving the extra monthly cost, I'll stick to my 5600.

[Dubspoon]

Alright Samsung and LG have confirmed devices but all we knew about the the Pros long before either of 'em, maybe they are saving the best for last

[kewlazme]

sprint will never make a vision phone like the 5600 ever. until power vision and blackberry start waving the extra monthly cost, I'll stick to my 5600.

Wasn't the 9000 close/better?

[james2K]

Wasn't the 9000 close/better?

um yeah, the 9000 was a major improvement over the 5600. all it needed was bluetooth to be perfect in my eyes.

[C1787GJ]

I will not list my sources for this photo. I just know she tests new phone models.

Sweet looks like they are bringing back the old school logo too ;)

[Dubspoon]

So according to all specs, meaning speculation, there will be a Pro 200, 700, 800 900. What is the model # that got buddy fired

[Deval]

I think that was the Pro700...I think

[Marlon_JB2]

This is looking like the longest phone test/release ever. SEBU????

[kewlazme]

I think that was the Pro700...I think

Getting fired over pics of the ugliest phone on the list... what a bad way to go. At least he coulda leaked some 900 pics :P

[BrettW]

lets pull this back on topic, its a thread about the pro 700/800, i dont want to have to close this thread.

[P11guy]

so sanyo pro series are gonna be Qchat
but anyone know any other features, and please dont say DOrA
we already know this, thats how qchat works.

[Deval]

So what other features would you expect?

[kewlazme]

So what other features would you expect?

The important things....
- Flash/Flashlight?
- MultiColor LED?
- Ability to send music player to background?
- Able to receive calls while QChatting?
- Faster Processor? (DLX is a bit slower than M1)
- Newer browser? (I think there is a newer version out there)

[shamefulzero]

i just hope the pro 800 specs come close to this, remember this from cppu?

My Eye sight is incredible and Can confirm these specs for the New Pro 800 Sanyo Phone


Micro Sd Card Slot
Bluetooth
1.1 Inch TFT External Screen
2 Inch Internal QVGA Screen
Micro USB Connector
High Quality Speakerphone
HP PTT button with Blue Backlighting
2.0 (maybe more blurrier than the rest) Megapixel Camera Located on top left back of phone.
3.5mm Headset jack
Call End Button On Side of Phone
Camera Button On Side of Phone
Speaker Button On Side of Phone

[Dubspoon]

We can discuss the 200 & 900 too or is it restricted to 700 & 800?

[kewlazme]

We can discuss the 200 & 900 too or is it restricted to 700 & 800?

Not sure. Last I heard the 200 & 700 were more realistically talked about for release in the near future. I think the 800 & 900 are still vaporware.

[Deval]

The important things....
- Flash/Flashlight?
- MultiColor LED?
- Ability to send music player to background?
- Able to receive calls while QChatting?
- Faster Processor? (DLX is a bit slower than M1)
- Newer browser? (I think there is a newer version out there)

I would think the 1st or 'basic' batch of qchat phones won't have all that fancy stuff...kinda like the moto iDEN phones and the power source phones?

[P11guy]

right, but the samsung z400 has a basic camera and rugged looking design,
and the LG phone is said to have all the same features as the muziq.
I dont see why they'd have phones that didnt have basic features when they first come out. If you looked at one of these phones and didnt think of qchat you'd think it was a regular phone compared to other phones right?

[kewlazme]

I would think the 1st or 'basic' batch of qchat phones won't have all that fancy stuff...kinda like the moto iDEN phones and the power source phones?

ekk..so they are going backwards in other technology to go forwards in newer technology.. 1MP Cam, 1G Mini SD, LED based display, external antenna woohoo

[Dubspoon]

If any highend devices come they won't have basic features. That something like the 900 would have anything less than 2mp cam doesn't seem too likely

[Deval]

well that is the thinking...at least, that is what I believe.

[P11guy]

If any highend devices come they won't have basic features. That something like the 900 would have anything less than 2mp cam doesn't seem too likely

right, but i think sprint is considering price of these devices more than the technology. Its sad because there are people out there willing to pay for these devices that have the technologies we want, but then you have the cheap people who want the world for free, and they ruin it for everyone.
:bang: :laughing: cheap people

[Dubspoon]

Cheap people don't bother me in fact I believe they help affect change, got to stick up for the "economically conscience", I'm in that crowd

[PokerFace23]

nice to see the pro 200 and pro 700 sku's out.

[shamefulzero]

nice to see the pro 200 and pro 700 sku's out.

any specs on the 200?

[Dubspoon]

Dean, you've seem proof of the legendary Pros, even if it is the low-ends?

[Deval]

if he is posting about the SKUs that means they are in the system...does not always mean anything, as they sometimes add SKUs and remove them.

[kewlazme]

if he is posting about the SKUs that means they are in the system...does not always mean anything, as they sometimes add SKUs and remove them.

That would be a fun job to have. Just to screw with people add SKUs for cutting edge phones, iphones, sidekicks, Nokias... then right before the day they would go live.. yank 'em.... crashing everyone's dreams :clap:

[PokerFace23]

i've never seen a SKU on the official excel file get yanked. the pearl was on there during the summer i think. the 6900 as well, the LG text messaging device, etc.. so BLAH! :wavey:

[Deval]

i've never seen a SKU on the official excel file get yanked. the pearl was on there during the summer i think. the 6900 as well, the LG text messaging device, etc.. so BLAH! :wavey:

the LG 545 SKU was there as well

[Dubspoon]

There is lots of hope that something Pro will come out and soon, that make the believability that the 900 is coming too

[P11guy]

yeah i seen the accessory sku for the pro 200 and 700, and z400(unrelated)

but they should be coming soon.

[KevC84]

I have seen SKU's removed. It's a good indicator but never a definite indicator.

[shamefulzero]

I have seen SKU's removed. It's a good indicator but never a definite indicator.


i thought you jumped ship to tmobile

[Deval]

you missed the memo...kev's back

[aschlect]

Pro 700

go to phonescoop

[Jason Fate]

http://www2.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=2787 is the link, barely beat me to it

[Dubspoon]

Well now that the 700 is coming we can hope that 200, 800 and 900 might actually be real

[KevC84]

I came back. The other side was bright and magenta and I didn't like it. LOL

[kwatcha]

Don't get me wrong it's great news but sadly enough it seems like PTT is on it's way towards a downward spiral....seems like the crowd has moved on to Smart phones. I wish Sprint had marketed Ready Link much better along with DC and who knows the interest for PTT would have stayed high but in my opinion Sprint killed it. I walked into a Sprint store yesterday in Orlando (Sand Lake and OBT) and as customeres were entering I saw a majority of them showing an interest in the following phones 1. Black Berry Pearl, Moto Q9, Palm Centro, HTC Mogul, HTC Touch and the new Samsung Ace...oh well.

[PokerFace23]

WELL

it seems like PTT may be going out.. for consumers.

you have to think about the big businesses and group connect. it is more expensive and time consuming to have your secretary call 20 employees to tell them the exact same message or set up a separate land-line so they can call in to listen to a conference call.

and blackberry is going to putting out a phone on the direct connect side, finally.

[Dubspoon]

Going by the drawing of the 700 it seems to look almost exactly like the test phone Person51 got fired for

[kewlazme]

WELL

it seems like PTT may be going out.. for consumers.

you have to think about the big businesses and group connect. it is more expensive and time consuming to have your secretary call 20 employees to tell them the exact same message or set up a separate land-line so they can call in to listen to a conference call.

and blackberry is going to putting out a phone on the direct connect side, finally.

I still think the approach is wrong. If QChat is supposed to replace Nextel's DC, then Sprint's first order of business would need to be QChat <--> DC connectivity. This would help get people to start rolling off of nextel phones and onto qchat phones, without missing a beat, eventually phasing out the iDEN.

Instead, QChat is QChat only. And Nextel just released 4 new DC phones a month ago. QChat is just gonna be ReadyLinkv2... and fall flat on its face.

The Pro 700 will sell since it does have Rev A and people will be interested in the novelty of QChat... just like people were into RL when it first came out. But a year from now it will just be another "Thick" sanyo with a "memo" button

I really hope they don't add QChat to the 900 if it ever comes out... That ship has sailed

[Dubspoon]

I am in total disagreement about qchat, it was already stated that it works with IDEN so it's better than Readylink from the getgo, I want ptt so the 900 should have it. Hope it is released this year along with the 200 and 800, one of those has to be an equivalent to a M1

[kewlazme]

I am in total disagreement about qchat, it was already stated that it works with IDEN so it's better than Readylink from the getgo, I want ptt so the 900 should have it. Hope it is released this year along with the 200 and 800, one of those has to be an equivalent to a M1

It was stated that it works with iden? well then if that is the case, then I am wrong about it. But I was under the impression that it was just going to be an alternative

[Dubspoon]

Buddy that got fired said so, not saying that's gospel but as I've read so far it's the case

[PokerFace23]

it's supposed to work with iden. who knows until it comes out though right?

[viperboy]

Here you go...

Sanyo 200 and 700 (http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/02/23/sanyo-alive-and-well-pushes-first-direct-connect-phones-through/)

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2008/02/sanyo-pro-200-700-fcc-id.jpg

Both are equipped with Bluetooth and EV-DO

[james2K]

i'd put a feature-lacking q-chat sanyo on my 2nd line just to see how it works :fingers:
hopefully you don't have to be in ensemble or some crap just to activate the phone

[viperboy]

i'd put a feature-lacking q-chat sanyo on my 2nd line just to see how it works :fingers:
hopefully you don't have to be in ensemble or some crap just to activate the phone

Well, by the time these come out, most likely everyone will already be in Ensamble.

[james2K]

Well, by the time these come out, most likely everyone will already be in Ensamble.

heh, everyone who's NOT an IPCS affiliate customer :frustrate

[viperboy]

heh, everyone who's NOT an IPCS affiliate customer :frustrate

Ok... so most normal people will already be in Ensamble :p :hee:

[james2K]

Ok... so most normal people will already be in Ensamble :p :hee:

:hee: well i never claimed to be normal... maybe i'll get lucky... or open an ensemble account :hee: 3 phones why not :tu:

[kewlazme]

What is this Ensamble I keep hearing about? I know its a new billing system or something instead of the old one which i see is called P2K, but whats the purpose of it? Why do some people want to manually migrate? To get new features?

I got a letter from sprint. Said they are moving my account between Feb 18-21 to a new billing system. And that I would need to create a new username. But i just tried logging in and i used my old method of logging in.

is this new billing system Ensamble that they are migrating me to?

[james2K]

ensemble is nextel's legacy billing system, it allows online esn changes and hybrid phone accounts. i'm thinking if hybrids have to be in ensemble q-chat will too, but that's my own warped theory, which may or may not be true.

[P11guy]

sounds right to me.
to work with accounts ensamble uses FDT, which allows editing of codes on customers accounts. I see new codes in there all the time. All P2K accounts are being moved. And I dont think the codes for cdma hpptt are in there.

[knytphal]

ensemble is nextel's legacy billing system, it allows online esn changes and hybrid phone accounts. i'm thinking if hybrids have to be in ensemble q-chat will too, but that's my own warped theory, which may or may not be true.

sounds right to me.
to work with accounts ensamble uses FDT, which allows editing of codes on customers accounts. I see new codes in there all the time. All P2K accounts are being moved. And I dont think the codes for cdma hpptt are in there.

OK.

I've seen it spelled two different ways. How is Ens[e|a]mble actually spelled? I always thought it was with the 'e', not the 'a'...?

[james2K]

the E

anyway... my g/f's account is set to be migrated in March. mines a bit more complex.. i doubt it'll happen for a while. so if it really happens, I'm definitely gonna get a pro 700 even just to try QChat :D

[P11guy]

OK.

I've seen it spelled two different ways. How is Ens[e|a]mble actually spelled? I always thought it was with the 'e', not the 'a'...?

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

wit an E. i think?

[PokerFace23]

Ensemble

Ensamble

well, firefox tells me that it's spelled the first way and there's a red underline underneath the second one :D

i cant wait !

[Dubspoon]

Now the 800 and 900, the 2 coming look like they don't have cams

[HChristianS]

sorry if this is a repost?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/IaznNpinoyC/small_nextel.jpg

[SingSongBird]

Ugh!

[Dubspoon]

That is a repost but that just means there are pics at the end of the, a pic of the 200 would be cool though

[Deval]

I wanna see a highend Sanyo PPT soon!

[kewlazme]

I wanna see a highend Sanyo PPT soon!

PPT? isn't it PTT?

[Dubspoon]

The 800 and 900 are the ones that had my nose open like Vick's, hope they push them out fast now though. Hoping the 800 is at least a replacement for the M1, might get both though since the swap is available. They better come out this year

[shamefulzero]

yeah the sanyo pro 200 looks like the pro 800 that was pictured months ago along wth the 700. maybe the pro 200 has a 3mp cam on the back.

[KevC84]

It is spelled Ensemble and I believe that you would have to be in Ensemble in order to use HPPTT which will be branded as DirectConnect. Ensemble is the only system that will allow you to be assigned a UFMI (PTT Number) and be attached to a Fleet.

[Deval]

PPT? isn't it PTT?

yeah sorry...was tired :p

[kewlazme]

yeah sorry...was tired :p

lol with all the spelling games of 'ensemble' and 'ensamble' we don't need any more confusion :p

[P11guy]

soo anyone know the difference between the 200,700,800 which are coming out?

[Deval]

the thread basically breaks it down no?

[kewlazme]

the thread basically breaks it down no?

Apparently No :p

[P11guy]

edit: just noticed they're both there in that fcc document.

hhmmmmm

[aschlect]

yeah the sanyo pro 200 looks like the pro 800 that was pictured months ago along wth the 700. maybe the pro 200 has a 3mp cam on the back.

IMO, the Pro 800 and Pro 200 look nothing alike, yet the Pro 700 sketch looks identical to the Pro 700 photo. I think the Pro 800 is still to come :

Pro 700 sketch.........Pro 200 Sketch

http://img.phonescoop.com/img/n/2787_231x250.jpg

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/showimage.php?m=Articles.Images&f=name&id=12548
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/showimage.php?m=Articles.Images&f=name&id=12547

[shamefulzero]

i cant take it anymore aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[kewlazme]

Found this link in another thread, but it pertains more to the phones discussed in this thread:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Sprint-will-launch-several-new-phones-in-April-article-a_2489.html

So looks like Qchat does have interoperability with current Nextel DC... thats what I was unclear about. So that's good for keeping existing Nextel DC customers. But it appears QChat is functionally no diff than DC... so there's no real draw to non-nextel users except that they can DC their buddies with Nextel now... that gets old after the 2nd time your buddy chirps you in the middle of a work meeting and says "CHIRP... WHats up b!tch!.. CHIRP"

So it will keep existing Nextel'rs happy, but there is no real interest (or functional difference) to those who have already tried DC or RL.. its basically RLv2 with DC crossover support, and the actual patented nextel "chirp" (sans the 10 sec idle wait when done using RL, before you could make calls again)

[Deval]

Yes, but you don't realize how big Push-To-X really is. There is a huge user base, and it is growing by the day. There are alot more features coming down the pipe I believe, other than just 'chirpin'.

[PCSuser]

I know that for iDEN new features are coming, more network expansion, and new iDEN only phones!

-PCSuser

[kewlazme]

Yes, but you don't realize how big Push-To-X really is. There is a huge user base, and it is growing by the day. There are alot more features coming down the pipe I believe, other than just 'chirpin'.

Well I dunno how big it is to normal users... I can see construction and elevator operators using it.. And dispatch based businesses. Basically any business that needs to be able to Blurt emergency information freely over the airwaves without waiting for your consent to answer the phone.

the "NEED" doesn't extend much past that. Mostly its the "Where you at?" urbanites that just like to annoy people on the train while their girlfriends sing "Happy birthday" to them over the walkie and the rest of the train gets to hear staticcy garbage.

[ou2mame]

yeah, i'm all about hating on nextel users. its one thing if you are running a business, but i see no purpose in walking around <insert random store/public place> and screaming into your phone like my unamericanized greek father does whenever i hand him my cellphone to talk to a family member. i seriously hate having to hear people talk, especially when the other party is coming through a speaker on their phone with so much static that i don't even know what they're saying, which makes me wonder how the intended listener even knows. and on top of it, i don't know about anyone else, but i hate being on speakerphone, and i really hate having other people listen to my calls. i don't even like to talk on my bluetooth in public because it looks like i'm talking to myself, and i feel as though i can talk lower through the mic on my phone than my headset. i really hope that one day we can get away from the speakerphone walkietalkie bull****. its an ancient idea. its my understanding that these people can use the ptt thing on their phone through their phone's internal speaker, which leaves even less reason to have it come out on the speaker. its one thing if its a cop or something, to have random calls coming through a speaker attached to their body.....or a taxi driver. but the average person just isn't important enough to bother everybody else with their conversations.

[PokerFace23]

haters. if you dont like nextel/PTT nobody is forcing you to carry those devices.

just because you dont find a need for it, it doesn't mean 20 million others dont. i have a lot of spanish speaking customers that get PTT because of the international capabilities. it's $10/month to basically talk long distance for free.

[shamefulzero]

ou2mame, do u know you have a ptt device? if do dont like it you shouldnt support it. deval there is a push to x community already? how do i join?

[Deval]

Well I dunno how big it is to normal users... I can see construction and elevator operators using it.. And dispatch based businesses. Basically any business that needs to be able to Blurt emergency information freely over the airwaves without waiting for your consent to answer the phone.

the "NEED" doesn't extend much past that. Mostly its the "Where you at?" urbanites that just like to annoy people on the train while their girlfriends sing "Happy birthday" to them over the walkie and the rest of the train gets to hear staticcy garbage.

I for Sprint IT, as a lot of the people here already know, and I find PTT perfect for asking quick questions to my other guys, or trying to coordinate a client meeting.

I think you deal with a lot of those 'urbanites' but there is a huge market for it.

[kewlazme]

haters. if you dont like nextel/PTT nobody is forcing you to carry those devices.

just because you dont find a need for it, it doesn't mean 20 million others dont. i have a lot of spanish speaking customers that get PTT because of the international capabilities. it's $10/month to basically talk long distance for free.

Hmm i thought nextel was only in USA. Then it would be useful for a normal user. Tho assuming you meant nationwide, then i guess it could still be useful if you can have just D/C and pay only $10/mon to talk to families from NY to Cali... but i thought you needed to have a plan as well, and i think the basic plan these days includes nationwide coverage or at least free mobile-to-mobile... at least they should. Even the landline phone companies have switched over to a region free plan now.

But sanyo does force us to have those devices :) Since they seem to include that feature on their higher end models with other features that we love so much.

I'm not saying they are bad.. there is certainly a market for them. I'm just saying those of us who have tried RL or had Nextel in the past aren't likely excited to try qchat, as functionally its identical to existing DC, just basically doubling the amount of users with sprint & nextel being able to use it. That in itself might be a reason for people to get it if their phone supports it. But we've gone this long without it and its useless still for calling friends on other carriers. (I think I have only one friend with Sprint, one nextel, the rest Tmobile or AT&T), and the low-end phones would likely be a good replacement for the low-end nextels that exist now for businesses who are giving just basic phones for talkin to their staff.

[Deval]

what about those who tried RL and actually liked it, and just wished for better performance.

I'm waiting to see what other features they will bring

[kewlazme]

what about those who tried RL and actually liked it, and just wished for better performance.

I'm waiting to see what other features they will bring

I liked RL.. What was the main performance problem? I was doing tests with my friend who worked for nextel (pre-merge).. he had a nextel and his co worker did too, I had RL and my friend did too.

RL was about 1 sec slower. Still not what I would consider a performance issue, as that could still be considered "instant". The biggest let down was after the first week of hype, there was no one else to talk to. At that time I had 3 nextel friends... if the 2 sprint people could talk to the 3 nextel people ... RL might have won us over.

QChat appears to be that answer... but now i'm down to 1 nextel (cuz nextel had that text-messaging problem and people left) and 1 sprint friend... maybe i just need better friends :P

What "other" features can there be? Instant video? IM? Are you referring to "other" features of qchat or DOrA? I think the "chat" in Qchat goes about as far as it can.

[Deval]

You can do group chat with iDEN, you can push files with iDEN, etc.

There are so many business type people who use/need the DC. I am not just talking about mom-and-pop shops, but real 2000-5000 line account for major companies.

[Dubspoon]

Bring on the replacement for my M1

[kewlazme]

You can do group chat with iDEN, you can push files with iDEN, etc.

There are so many business type people who use/need the DC. I am not just talking about mom-and-pop shops, but real 2000-5000 line account for major companies.

Yes I've already said businesses need it... I am talking about normal people still. Pushing files with iden seems moot.. and I'm not talkin Iden.. im talking Qchat. You wouldn't push files with qchat, you'd push them with DOrA

[Dubspoon]

Suppose Sanyo follows what they did when RL, bringing out the low and mid (7000 and 2400) then highend with the 5400 and a candybar 4920. Makes me hold out hope that maybe the 800 and 900 could be around the corner and maybe a ptt version of the S1. That's what I'll hope for

[kewlazme]

Suppose Sanyo follows what they did when RL, bringing out the low and mid (7000 and 2400) then highend with the 5400 and a candybar 4920. Makes me hold out hope that maybe the 800 and 900 could be around the corner and maybe a ptt version of the S1. That's what I'll hope for

I'm thinking high-end more like 7400 and 9000.

[whiteshadow]

sorry< made a mistake can't delete this reply.

[whiteshadow]

Wasn't the 9000 close/better?

9000 was a power vision phone, the sanyo 5600 was the best vision phone ever.

[kewlazme]

9000 was a power vision phone, the sanyo 5600 was the best vision phone ever.

seems like comparing the best 56k modem to the best DSL modem...

[Dubspoon]

All the Sanyo phones that were owned by me performed great, only the 5400 had a real shelf life. Every phone following it, highend at least, was discontinued too soon.

[shamefulzero]

i hope sprint/sanyo has fixed the fullscreen feature they took away from us. if so...... the pros would be the bets phones in the world!!!

[kewlazme]

i hope sprint/sanyo has fixed the fullscreen feature they took away from us. if so...... the pros would be the bets phones in the world!!!

I just hope they give us a screen worth calling "fullscreen". Fill the whole panel like Razr & Blade!

[shamefulzero]

yeah the actul size we have now to view tv on sanyos now is a joke with the yellow bar above and below the tv now..

[KevC84]

I really like the PTT and I think it's a great feature that not only are great for business but can be great for consumer too. This 'Push-to-X" idea is great. It's great for people who need to be in constant communication without the wait. With Rev. A and Push-to-X the possibilities are amazing. Pushing a picture instantly with the push of a button, pushing a contact information, an address or a LBS coordinate. We are all about instant gratification. You need to send a picture but don't want to wait up to a minute for the other person to get it. You pick the picture, pick the person you want to send it to, push your DC button, you hear that infamous chirp and instantly that image appears on the other persons handset. Same could work for e-mail or an attachment. I think it's great and its something that can set Sprint apart from the competition. It has immense potential and as long as its developed the right way then it can be revolutionary.

[kewlazme]

I really like the PTT and I think it's a great feature that not only are great for business but can be great for consumer too. This 'Push-to-X" idea is great. It's great for people who need to be in constant communication without the wait. With Rev. A and Push-to-X the possibilities are amazing. Pushing a picture instantly with the push of a button, pushing a contact information, an address or a LBS coordinate. We are all about instant gratification. You need to send a picture but don't want to wait up to a minute for the other person to get it. You pick the picture, pick the person you want to send it to, push your DC button, you hear that infamous chirp and instantly that image appears on the other persons handset. Same could work for e-mail or an attachment. I think it's great and its something that can set Sprint apart from the competition. It has immense potential and as long as its developed the right way then it can be revolutionary.

Hmm i am unfamiliar with this "Push-to-X"... But is it a QChat feature or is it a DOrA feature?

[KevC84]

Hmm i am unfamiliar with this "Push-to-X"... But is it a QChat feature or is it a DOrA feature?

Push-to-X is the idea behind the possibilities of Sprint DirectConnect. It's more than just push-to-talk its push to _____ fill in the blank. This is whats going to differentiate Sprint from the competition. That and WiMax. :)

[kewlazme]

Push-to-X is the idea behind the possibilities of Sprint DirectConnect. It's more than just push-to-talk its push to _____ fill in the blank. This is whats going to differentiate Sprint from the competition. That and WiMax. :)

Well lets pretend I "get" the concept. Does D/C currently do that stuff now?
Assuming the answer is no, is this only going to work with phones that have QChat? or will this work for any phone using DOrA? Since really qchat is just an application that runs on DOrA.. I would think that DOrA would be the backbone, not the qchat application.

[Deval]

well by that logic, our voice calls are also over the DOrA backbone.

Qchat allows iDEN < -> CDMA PTT...it is basically a software and hardware IP gateway between the 2 technologies.

Since it is over CDMA, there are alot more data-intensive applications which can be developed for it.

[Dubspoon]

D, is seeing the 200 and 700 become reality making you believe the 900 could see the light of day

[kewlazme]

well by that logic, our voice calls are also over the DOrA backbone.

Qchat allows iDEN < -> CDMA PTT...it is basically a software and hardware IP gateway between the 2 technologies.

Since it is over CDMA, there are alot more data-intensive applications which can be developed for it.

That's my point.. which is why I'm asking.. is "Push-to-X" only available on QChat phones or all phones that use Rev A? I mean Push-to-X is basically the equivalent of Instant Messenger on the computer, which should be based on the DOrA backbone and not the QChat middle bone.

[Dubspoon]

It will be on qchat, other devices can send thru pic/vidmail. Sanyo/Kyocera needs these to be winners seeing as no other carrier has thier phones

[Deval]

That's my point.. which is why I'm asking.. is "Push-to-X" only available on QChat phones or all phones that use Rev A? I mean Push-to-X is basically the equivalent of Instant Messenger on the computer, which should be based on the DOrA backbone and not the QChat middle bone.

yes, that is the whole idea behind Push-to-X...it is a q-chat specific feature.

[kewlazme]

yes, that is the whole idea behind Push-to-X...it is a q-chat specific feature.

Seems like it should be a DOrA feature. or a "Q-pic" feature or a "Q-movie" feature. or change "QChat" to "QConnect".. Man who's running Sprint's marketing? a monkey?!

[Deval]

what are you talking about? It is not marketed as q-chat

[thermbug]

Waiting with baited breath here.
Pro 700 rugged, evdo, bluetooth, DC compatable via qchat.
No camera or card slot correct?
Pro 800 camera and card but not rugged.

[kewlazme]

what are you talking about? It is not marketed as q-chat

its not? According to the latest press (http://www.phonenews.com/sprint-reveals-wimax-and-qchat-plans-2839/) they mention "QChat" by name as the technology.

[Deval]

its not? According to the latest press (http://www.phonenews.com/sprint-reveals-wimax-and-qchat-plans-2839/) they mention "QChat" by name as the technology.

is the Touch marketed as CDMA? Marketing is not the same as technology

[kewlazme]

is the Touch marketed as CDMA? Marketing is not the same as technology

... not quite the same thing..... so then what are they marketing it as? Direct Connect? "Push-to-X" ?

[KevC84]

Sprint has already said that they are branding push to talk as Direct Connect on all platforms. It was Direct Connect before the merger and the branding was changed to walkie talkie now it is back as DirectConnect. QChat was the application developed by Qualcomm. Sprint is branding it as DirectConnect. DirectConnect makes sense because it is not just about walkie-talkie its about having a direct connection to the other user. Push-to-X is the possibilities behind DirectConnect. Push-to-Talk, Push-to-Send, Nextmail and other future possibilities.

[Dubspoon]

Hope thermbug is on the right track, maybe add outer media player controls like the M1 with a bigger sexier outer screen to match up with the V9m whichever one those Machs in the Samsung forum

[kewlazme]

Sprint has already said that they are branding push to talk as Direct Connect on all platforms. It was Direct Connect before the merger and the branding was changed to walkie talkie now it is back as DirectConnect. QChat was the application developed by Qualcomm. Sprint is branding it as DirectConnect. DirectConnect makes sense because it is not just about walkie-talkie its about having a direct connection to the other user. Push-to-X is the possibilities behind DirectConnect. Push-to-Talk, Push-to-Send, Nextmail and other future possibilities.

Ah thats what I needed to clear it up.

[Dubspoon]

What about a Pro version of the S1 that adds a cam

[kewlazme]

What about a Pro version of the S1 that adds a cam

and evdo. At some point EVDO needs to become the standard. The cost of a EVDO transceiver can't be much more than a 1xRTT transceiver by now.

[Dubspoon]

That would be a given that you need DOrA for qchat, I would get one

[OP_Kansas]

and evdo. At some point EVDO needs to become the standard. The cost of a EVDO transceiver can't be much more than a 1xRTT transceiver by now.

It's an entirely different chipset, and yes - It is more expensive.

[kewlazme]

It's an entirely different chipset, and yes - It is more expensive.
But it can't be much more :) Its like Pentium 1 costs the same as a Dual Core when it first came out.. technology costs must come down.

[P11guy]

That would be a given that you need DOrA for qchat, I would get one

the qchat phones are all listed as Rev. 0
on phonearena....

[Deval]

and phonearena is 100% accurate?

[Dubspoon]

I knew that was wrong too seeing that qchat needs DOrA to operate

[OP_Kansas]

Actually DOrA is an acronym for REV. A.

[blaxxboy]

and for QOS (quality of service) reasons Qchat does require evdo rev a or dora..so phonearena is incorrect...evdo does not have enough throughput for qchat..if evdo rev o was all that was needed it would been out.. Sprint is marketing qchat as Direct connect and it must match DC qos on iden to be the true network unifier that has been deployed to do

[blaxxboy]

yes, that is the whole idea behind Push-to-X...it is a q-chat specific feature.

actually push to x is not specific to qchat phones..it also works on iden phones too..some of those push to x features are already available for iden..its actually enabled by that new gateway u metioned in the earlier post...proof you can add push to email...now on iden...so these push to x features are for all DC...iden or cdma

[Deval]

yeah all of 2 iDEN phones which ever supported Push-to-X

[Dubspoon]

If April 16th or 20th launch is true you would think the specs would be available

[thermbug]

I've seen the 16th date so many times by now.
I keep checking http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/-PRO700-phone-p_2643.html but all they have are the fcc specs.
By now do we change the thread to Pro 200 and pro 700?

[Deval]

what specs are you looking for?

[Dubspoon]

Cam or not, mp's of said cam, screen size and resolution... that type of stuff

[Deval]

Well considering they were not confirmed, I would think specs are hard to come by?

[Dubspoon]

I'm cool with that, especially since neither is highend but did want to know what else it could besides ptt and it would give me an idea of how they will improve the successors

[yappering]

Sanyo needs to stop screwing around and make a phone that combines all the modern features of the DLX and the style,mil. spec ruggedness, battery, and reception of the 7050. Who else is tired of these girly thin phones that have no battery life or reception? I was talking to a Sprint rep who said if they made a rugged 7050 with all the features of the DLX, Sanyo phones would go flying off the shelves--and i believe him. They should stop screwing around and call it the Sanyo Ten Thousand--a successor to the best phone ever 5600 and 9000. Any thoughts?

[Deval]

Rugged and Slim? I'm pretty sure that is not really possible if you think about it.