Q9c Battery

[coolj01]

Im looking at switching to the Moto Q9c and have been looking on the boards and couldnt find any info on buying a regular sized battery just in case i dont like the size of the extended. Anyone have any links to where to buy one?

[Stin]

I would like to know this as well. Does the Q9c use the same battery and cover as the regular Q? If not I have no idea where to get a slim battery because I have not seen any anywhere.

[Mashie]

I would like to know this as well. Does the Q9c use the same battery and cover as the regular Q? If not I have no idea where to get a slim battery because I have not seen any anywhere.

Same battery as the original Q, but different backs. Finding slim backs for the Q9c is the hard part.

[Stin]

Would one of these cheap generic batteries from ebay work?
http://cgi.ebay.com/SPECIAL-SALES-SLIM-PHONE-BATTERY-FOR-MOTOROLA-MOTO-Q_W0QQitemZ160189572364QQihZ006QQcategoryZ20350QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
If anyone can find where to buy a slim back please post here!

[blackangst]

Same battery as the original Q, but different backs. Finding slim backs for the Q9c is the hard part.

No. Original Q had a slim battery, Q9c has an extended battery.

[Stin]

No. Original Q had a slim battery, Q9c has an extended battery.
I think Mashie means the Q9c can take the same slim battery as the Q, we all know it ships with the extended.

[Mashie]

I think Mashie means the Q9c can take the same slim battery as the Q, we all know it ships with the extended.

Correct, the slim battery of the original Q works just great in my Q9c. Like I mentioned the hard part is getting slim backs for the Q9c. The original Q backs don't work. I was able to get a slim back from a friend of mine that works at Moto :)

[Leakman]

Im looking at switching to the Moto Q9c and have been looking on the boards and couldnt find any info on buying a regular sized battery just in case i dont like the size of the extended. Anyone have any links to where to buy one?

Its such a small difference 1/4" maybe?? Not worth the bother IMHO!! Use the stock battery!

[TheEsupremacy]

Please folks - the extended Q9c battery and door are NOT THAT THICK. Please look @ one before you start thinking it ruins the phone or something.
It does not @ all! In fact, I LIKE the way it feels in your hand better than the original Q (which I did own) again, my opinion, and it's of course subjective.

[Stin]

Correct, the slim battery of the original Q works just great in my Q9c. Like I mentioned the hard part is getting slim backs for the Q9c. The original Q backs don't work. I was able to get a slim back from a friend of mine that works at Moto :)
-How is battery life with the slim compared to the extended?
-Is the standard battery as bad as it was on the original Q?
-Which do you end up using more?
-Does the extended battery feel noticeably thicker in your pocket?

[Stin]

Please folks - the extended Q9c battery and door are NOT THAT THICK. Please look @ one before you start thinking it ruins the phone or something.
It does not @ all! In fact, I LIKE the way it feels in your hand better than the original Q (which I did own) again, my opinion, and it's of course subjective.
From infosync review
However, we didn't like the bump from the extended battery, and wish that Sprint had given us both a regular and extended battery, so we would have the choice. A big part of the Q's appeal is its slim profile, which it loses when equipped with the extended battery.

[coolj01]

Please folks - the extended Q9c battery and door are NOT THAT THICK. Please look @ one before you start thinking it ruins the phone or something.
It does not @ all! In fact, I LIKE the way it feels in your hand better than the original Q (which I did own) again, my opinion, and it's of course subjective.

Hey im not bagging on the Q cuz its got a bubble butt or anything would just like to know what options are out there for it. Hey Mashie how can your friend that works at Moto hook us up? Or at least point us in a direction to get hooked up.:tu:

[Mashie]

-How is battery life with the slim compared to the extended?
-Is the standard battery as bad as it was on the original Q?
-Which do you end up using more?
-Does the extended battery feel noticeably thicker in your pocket?

Battery life with the standard battery is OK, not great. I feel it is better then the original Q but not by a whole lot. With the standard battery and normal usage I find myself needing to charge at the end of the day. This is with a few calls, a few text messages and push email from my Exchange server.

With heavy usage I did not quite make it through a full day (I charged from my laptop for about an hour). In all honesty, I would just stick with the battery that came with the device. You get a whole lot more battery life for only a very small increase in size.

[zeusmontes]

Please folks - the extended Q9c battery and door are NOT THAT THICK. Please look @ one before you start thinking it ruins the phone or something.
It does not @ all! In fact, I LIKE the way it feels in your hand better than the original Q (which I did own) again, my opinion, and it's of course subjective.

I couldn't agree more. I too was concerned about the bigger battery but it really is not that much bigger and the phone feels SOLID in your hand. That's just my 2 cents.

[TheEsupremacy]

My friend said you can call Motorola customer service and they can order you the regular battery and door for Sprint's Q9c. I haven't tried this yet to verify but I don't see why he'd lie. As far as Sprint including BOTH batteries and doors to us, C'mon, that's almost funny. We are lucky we got a wall charger from the Sprint/Motorola relationship.:laughing:

[coolj01]

My friend said you can call Motorola customer service and they can order you the regular battery and door for Sprint's Q9c. I haven't tried this yet to verify but I don't see why he'd lie. As far as Sprint including BOTH batteries and doors to us, C'mon, that's almost funny. We are lucky we got a wall charger from the Sprint/Motorola relationship.:laughing:

Sounds like the battery life lost isnt worth the smaller size so guess ill keep the bubble butt.

[section76]

I called Moto at 866-289-6686, they transferred me to some Q specific dept. They are shipping me a free regular battery door, supposedly with Sprint logo. Picked up the standard battery for $8 on ebay including shipping.
No the bubble isn't terrible, but i'll gladly pay $8 to get rid of it and have an extended batt for backup.

[sprtjnkie]

I'll be interested to see how long the Q9 runs on the standard batt. I couldn't get through a full day on my old Q on it so I can't figure how you could possibly do it on the Q9. I think the extended batt adds to the sturdiness of the phone. To each his own however.

[Bam]

What battery do you look for on ebay?

the Q9M's on Verizon? or the 1st Gen Q?

[section76]

search for motorola bt60. I think it fits old q, q9c, q9m, etc. but I don't have it yet, will reply after I get it.

[JPSmith]

I called Moto at 866-289-6686, they transferred me to some Q specific dept. They are shipping me a free regular battery door, supposedly with Sprint logo. Picked up the standard battery for $8 on ebay including shipping.
No the bubble isn't terrible, but i'll gladly pay $8 to get rid of it and have an extended batt for backup.


I called the same number, got the same dept., and the clueless rep said they didn't have any standard battery doors available, Sprint or otherwise. I.e. Moto's reps appear to be about on par with Sprint's..... I'll have to try again I guess.

[JPSmith]

What battery do you look for on ebay?

the Q9M's on Verizon? or the 1st Gen Q?


Any battery listed for Q will fit. The biggest capacity standard-size battery I've seen is 1130 mah. There are also some puny 800-something mah Q batteries out there, don't get those...

[recithree]

once someone gets a slim battery i would be interested in knowing if sound from the speaker gets muffled.the bubble butt keeps some clearance between the speaker and the surface it is laying on.

[chilidogtampa]

I just found this standard door after already ordering the wrong one, but before i order im gonna try calling moto as mentioned above, if they ship out freebies im likin that!!

http://store.everythingq.com/content/accessories/88-89--3449.htm

[chilidogtampa]

aaaaahhhhh!!!!!! I spent an eternity on hold with Moto to get to the guy who told me that would be happy, no, thrilled!! to send me free back, if of course they had any... doh!!! they did say to call back and he gave me a "case #". oh well.... :1zhelp:

[chilidogtampa]

hey anybody who calls moto and gets shipped or promised a slim back please post so i know its time to call in....as for saying the fat battery is not "too fat" its not obnoxious but for slippin it the pants pocket it would be nice to have the full slimness, but the big battery lasts a long time and thats nice too.

[Mashie]

once someone gets a slim battery i would be interested in knowing if sound from the speaker gets muffled.the bubble butt keeps some clearance between the speaker and the surface it is laying on.

I have the slim battery and slim sprint back for my Q9c and have noticed no difference in the speaker between slim and extended batteries...

[recithree]

I have the slim battery and slim sprint back for my Q9c and have noticed no difference in the speaker between slim and extended batteries...

thanks for the response.i would hate to have to lay my phone face down to listen to my music considering the dirt that tends to be on the surfaces around me.(i am a electrician and when trimming out panels for hours at a time in a fairly quiet enviroment i used to lay my 8400 on top and always have to wipe the back off)

[Xtek]

I have the Q9c with the extended battery. I like it more then the slim Q because the bulge makes it a little easier to hold with the rubber feel and I get 4+ days with semi-heavy use.

[tbakergobuck]

I didn't think I would like the extended battery but I like getting a few days with somewhat heavy use.

[section76]

The free q9c Sprint standard battery door that Moto was supposedly sending me turned out to be for the old Q.

[BrettW]

id say just buy off ebay, i got an OEM verizon door (eh so what, ill scrape the verizon off like i did with my orig moto Q) and OEM moto BT60 battery for a total of $14.96 (5.98 for the battery 8.98 for the door)

[zeusmontes]

id say just buy off ebay, i got an OEM verizon door (eh so what, ill scrape the verizon off like i did with my orig moto Q) and OEM moto BT60 battery for a total of $14.96 (5.98 for the battery 8.98 for the door)

How long of a charge are people getting on the slim battery?

[93geometro]

Did you get your door and battery yet? how can you tell if the battery is genuine or not? what seller did you buy from on ebay? thanks

[BrettW]

got the battery its as genuine as i can tell it has the moto holograms across it

plus it came from within the US which helps me think (and hope) its genuine, plus most fake batteries they dont post the MAH this seller did (i believe)

the door i think is waiting in my mailbox i work until 10pm and my mailbox area gets locked at 9:30ish

so i havent even gotten to play with it yet

both the battery and door came from within the US the battery came from quite local (san francisco)

seller is here http://myworld.ebay.com/1to3shop-net/

i bought the door from

http://myworld.ebay.com/gsm-store/

the battery cost less then the door, total i paid a few cents shy of $15

[93geometro]

thanks for the reply I ordered the batt door but I want to know is the battery I need the bt60? and did you get the 850mah bt60 one like in the link you put up?

[BrettW]

yes i got the bt60

[chilidogtampa]

Im having such bad luck on the battery thing, first I ordered this "OEM" (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220179577023&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=012) battery that im sceptical may be counterfeit, AND was DOA, then I ordered a old q door from china...der..then I orderd a BT60 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290195167178&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=019) and the guy shipped me a BT50... I (hopefully) have a verizon door coming... I sure do like this phone, if it came with the slim battery I probably would hav wanted the extended anyway.:clap:

[roady]

Not worth the loss in battery life IMO

[BrettW]

Im having such bad luck on the battery thing, first I ordered this "OEM" (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220179577023&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=012) battery that im sceptical may be counterfeit, AND was DOA, then I ordered a old q door from china...der..then I orderd a BT60 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290195167178&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=019) and the guy shipped me a BT50... I (hopefully) have a verizon door coming... I sure do like this phone, if it came with the slim battery I probably would hav wanted the extended anyway.:clap:



moto holograms all its batteries

so if it doenst have a hologram thats your first sign

[BrettW]

Not worth the loss in battery life IMO

going from 1620mah to 850mah it will still net me about 2 days of battery life since i get 4 on the 1620mah battery, which is plenty seeing as 99% of the time i charge my phone at the end of the day anyways

i got the battery and door on my Q9c now, ill post some pics when i get home tonight if anyone wants me to

[chilidogtampa]

moto holograms all its batteries

so if it doenst have a hologram thats your first sign

its got a hologram, but im still not convinced, I accused the seller of selling me a fake in regards to the charger and he wrote back swearing up and down that the charger (and batt) are OEM, I told him whatever just swap the battery for a working one and im fine, now he wont write back... the paypal dispute is open for about $25 on the batt+charger. we will see. I sent the other guy his BT50 back and that guy sez he will send out a BT60. I still didn't get the slim door. to those that say that it isn't worth the usage loss to go slim I say yeah sorta, I want both options, and to have the phone slim when I don't need a lot of battery and I can toss the fatty in my wifes purse so SHE can keep jaw jackin after she kills her touch AND my Q...:D

[BrettW]

yea, its not like the extended battery is getting thrown away lol its in my desk drawer (and will probably end up in my cars glovebox in a bag) in case i need it i can swap to it, but for now i want a slimmer phone because that was my favorite thing about the Q and Touch is both phones are quite slim, the girth of the extended battery of the Q9c always bugged me, just a little bit.

[93geometro]

I want to see the pics please

[93geometro]

hey brettw were you able to get the verizon logo off your battery door? if so how did you do it?

[BrettW]

i havent had a chance yet, but ill probably do it the same way i did with my Q when i got a silver door for it before sprint had extended doors available, which is very carefully using my fingernails and an x-acto blade and just pick at it

or ill just stick a sticker over it :-)

edit: oh, and ill have the pics up as soon as i can, ill be home in about an hour, give or take a few minutes.

[NeoteriX]

going from 1620mah to 850mah it will still net me about 2 days of battery life since i get 4 on the 1620mah battery, which is plenty seeing as 99% of the time i charge my phone at the end of the day anyways

i got the battery and door on my Q9c now, ill post some pics when i get home tonight if anyone wants me to
Isn't the BT60 1100 mAH? I've got one right here in front of me, SNN5782A.

[BrettW]

dunno im to lazy to pull it out and check now lol

if its 1100 mah thats even better

[BrettW]

as promised heres the pics

thickness shot
http://image.bayimg.com/eajbhaaba.jpg

Touch VS Q9 Shot 1
http://image.bayimg.com/eajbjaaba.jpg

Touch VS Q9c Shot 2 (thickness)
http://image.bayimg.com/eajbnaaba.jpg

Downward Angle
http://image.bayimg.com/eajbkaaba.jpg



theres a few other pics that were to grainy to post, which can be found here

http://bayimg.com/album/naAHbAAac

[BrettW]

man i need to wash my touchs screen lol,

[NeoteriX]

Taking a quick look at the stock q9c extended battery BT90 (SNN5826A), it's rated at 1800 mAH; so that's a difference of 900 mAH. I have read though that there have been a few revisions of the BT60, one was produced at 1000 mAH.

I'm still waiting on a slim battery cover, but I'm going to be putting the slim battery through a test drive to see how it'll work out in my daily usage. The biggest problem for me is that I spend a large part of my day in and out of service, that has typically been a battery killer for my other phones.

edit: Brett, have you noticed with the slim battery that the phone no longer beeps/notifies that the battery charging is complete? I haven't seen that thus far

[BrettW]

all i know is 8hrs of being @ work with low signal, what used to murder my Q didnt drop a bar off my Q9c

who knows what rating these moto batteries are, everywhere i look gives a different rating lol

according to motos shot my battery SNN5744A = 1000mah which is good

everywhere i read marks the SNN5826A at 1700mah, thats 700mah difference not bad

either way im satasfied with my battery life!


and just a note for thoes who want to see the pics, they are on pg 1

[93geometro]

I went to the sprint store near my place to look for a bt60 battery not in stock there so the guy called a different store they said sprint does not sell normal sized batterys for the q9c later that day I was by the sprint store he called so I went in and explained my need well she talked to the techs in the back and they said the q9m verizon battery will work in the q9c but she said the verizon q9m does not have windows mobile 6:laughing: thus needs less battery power that is why thay can get away with having a smaller battery anyways I went to a vzw kiosk at the mall and ordered a std. battery for the q9m it is the BT61 rated @ 1170 mah for just under $44 with free 2 day fed ex to my door because no vzw kiosk in this state has std. q9m batterys in stock

[BrettW]

I went to the sprint store near my place to look for a bt60 battery not in stock there so the guy called a different store they said sprint does not sell normal sized batterys for the q9c later that day I was by the sprint store he called so I went in and explained my need well she talked to the techs in the back and they said the q9m verizon battery will work in the q9c but she said the verizon q9m does not have windows mobile 6:laughing: thus needs less battery power that is why thay can get away with having a smaller battery anyways I went to a vzw kiosk at the mall and ordered a std. battery for the q9m it is the BT61 rated @ 1170 mah for just under $44 with free 2 day fed ex to my door because no vzw kiosk in this state has std. q9m batterys in stock

lol more so sprint got shafted by moto shoving the first wave of moto Qs with age old batteries and then it having shoddy battery life in general so instead of risking it this time around they shove the Q9c out with the extended battery to leave nothing up for chance.

thats fine $15 and 3 days of waiting later my Moto Q9c has a nice slim waistline :-)

[93geometro]

what is the official word on the mah rating on the bt90 battery it comes with?

[93geometro]

nevermind saw it on sprint 1860mah for those wondering

[BrettW]

im just going to ignore all the mah ratings on these batteries because it seems motorola changes them with the seasons.

[executor485]

I personally like the extended battery on the Q9c... I think it was very wise of Sprint to make it the standard battery, just because that was one of the largest complaints with the regular Q. And they didnt charge you any more for it, so thats a huge bonus IMO.
As far as wanting to get a standard battery backing, just a few ideas to throw out there. Why not post over in the everythingQ, or Qusers and ask the people with the verizon phones if they wouldnt mind selling their regular battery with or without the standard battery? Or, depending on your local Verizon store and how nice they are... You might be able to pick up a standard cover there (either for purchase, or maybe they have a few laying around/turned in). Or, you could always search for a craigslist in your area and try making a posting on there in the electronics section and/or the wanted section. I know craigslist gets a lot of hits and you might get lucky there :)

As far as the battery life with the extended, I love it. By the end of the day, with heavy texting, internet surfing, e-mail, etc... I have at least 2 bars left, normally 3 though. The only time I had problems with battery life is when I was running the IM program with Yahoo, MSN, and AIM all day. The battery drained down super fast and normally would only last about 12-14 hours.
I've also heard that installing apps that you use frequently to your SD card will significantly drain your battery life faster. So if you use things like Facade, install them to your phone rather than the SD card. This will increase your battery life :)

[chilidogtampa]

hhhmmm here is something interesting, I charged my Q9 overnite (big battery) and took it off charge @ about 6:30am with the "charge complete" screen, then @ about 8:30a after not using it at all I was down to two bars:mad: I havent had any battery or charging issues, i wonder why this is?

also about the slim/fat, and what it should ship with, I agree shipping the big battery was a good idea, but would it have busted the bank to toss in a slim cover? and for that matter a wired headset....that is stingy...IMO..;)

ok, after I posted this I soft reset, whiile working from 8:30-9:45 I listened to XM, and mad 3 long calls, after a soft reset im back up to 3 bars? :cool: why?

15 minutes later back to two...

[roady]

Leave the phone on at night when you're charging it? Usage/Consumption comes to a semi-full charge.

Is it all the way discharged when you charge it? Batteries still have a memory, you have to stretch the charge for as long as you can.

[chilidogtampa]

I dont really want to leave my phone "off" all night but I think I may have left apps running in the background, im thinking to do a "kill all" before bed tonight. interesting because my first few trials I left it off charge for one night and it stayed full for two full days....

[executor485]

Sounds like some serious apps running... More than just an IM too... Sounds a little strange to be down 2 bars in 2 hours, I didnt even have that bad of luck with my regular Q.

[NeoteriX]

2 bars in 2 hours definitely seems strange...

On another note, there is no memory effect with lithium ion batteries, you do not need to completely discharge.

Additionally, I can't imagine that the phone at its highest level of power consumption would consume more power than is being supplied by its A/C adapter. You shouldn't have to turn off your phone at night if it's plugged in. If you're plugged into a USB port of a computer... that's a different story. The USB port only supplies enough power to maintain the current charge of whatever you had; maybe that's your problem?

[executor485]

I would have to differ on the USB port not charging your phone. Maybe the older USB ports 1.0 and 1.1... But all my USB 2.0 ports have charged my phone, even my laptop charges the phone.
There is also option in SmartTweaker that allows you to turn off the ability to charge when plugged into a USB port.
But, your very correct on the fact that there shouldnt be anything that would drain the battery faster than it can charge. Maybe its just an off day for the phone? lol
I know this sounds crazy, but was the charger plugged into the wall all the way? I've had that issue before, the charger was just-so that the contacts werent getting power.

[Xtek]

You're right memory with lithiums doesn't exist. However, it does help to recondition them from time to time and I have seen this prooven with lion batteries both through blog posts online and through my own personal experience with laptop and cell phones. Every once in a while it helps to drain the battery completely and then charge it to full and pull it off the charger right after the charge completes. I've gotten an extra 2 hours out of my Q9c and an extra 35 minutes out of my laptop from conditioning the battery every month or so.

As far as not charging the phone via USB it might because it is a legacy USB port or the fact that it doesn't have enough power. Power and bandwidth is split between almost all of your USB ports usually and even on some laptops the power coming out of the USB ports isn't eneough to power you phone. An example is the "front" connectors on most desktops don't usually carry enough juice for it.

[chilidogtampa]

I think it was apps running...I was using the OEM wall plug and it did say "charge complete". im not worried abvout it that much, but I will be aware of what apps are running.

[BrettW]

alright day 1 on actual full charge with standard (BT60) battery.

no bars lost, phone has been off charger for 17hrs (10:00 am - 3:00 am) bluetooth on the entire time, plenty of texting a few phone calls, 4 hrs of roaming/no signal while at my friends helping him assemble his new air hockey table

well worth it

[NeoteriX]

alright day 1 on actual full charge with standard (BT60) battery.

no bars lost, phone has been off charger for 17hrs (10:00 am - 3:00 am) bluetooth on the entire time, plenty of texting a few phone calls, 4 hrs of roaming/no signal while at my friends helping him assemble his new air hockey table

well worth it
I tried a few days on my slim BT60 battery (with the extended battery cover... ugh, still waiting :) ) and I'd just like to point out how much of a significant difference "push" email saves your battery life. Prior to switching to push email via Mail2Web, I had my Q9c checking my gmail every 5 minutes...


On the first day I tried the slim battery, I powered down the wifi and bluetooth radios while I was having class in a basement where there was definitely no signal, in an attempt to conserve battery life. I was down to 2 bars by the early afternoon.

After I caved and tried out Mail2web last night, I gave it another go. This time, without ever powering down my radios and having significant conversations on the phone with some clients, the battery was at a solid 3 bars until the late evening when it finally bumped down to 2.

I was worried whether I'd be able to make it through the day on the slim battery prior to going with push, but it definitely seems like the slim battery will suit me fine now...

[jgill07]

I tried a few days on my slim BT60 battery (with the extended battery cover... ugh, still waiting :) ) and I'd just like to point out how much of a significant difference "push" email saves your battery life. Prior to switching to push email via Mail2Web, I had my Q9c checking my gmail every 5 minutes...


....
After I caved and tried out Mail2web last night, I gave it another go. This time, without ever powering down my radios and having significant conversations on the phone with some clients, the battery was at a solid 3 bars until the late evening when it finally bumped down to 2.

I was worried whether I'd be able to make it through the day on the slim battery prior to going with push, but it definitely seems like the slim battery will suit me fine now...

hey neo, how do you switch to push via mail2web?

and eveyone else, it appears that the motorola website now has the bt61 battery at 1170maH in what appears to be the slim profile...Can anyone confirm this? And if it is the slim battery (no bump), is that the strongest one available right now? Thanks!

[chilidogtampa]

the big/standard battery(BT90) is 1800mah, that is still the one to use for longevity, I use both styles as I need. when going off for a whole day with the family I grab the big one to be safe.

[TJNE]

I used to get 3 days out of my extended (Bump) battery and one day I only got about 12 hrs out of it. Sprint said take it to store to be tested, store says they made a 13 min call and the battery did not drop so everything is fine. I could have done that, but it still only runs about 12 hrs before I need to plug it in. I got the phone in SEPT.

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