View Full Version : Big Ten facing multiple hurdles in 2007
tbakergobuck
08-22-2007, 07:18 AM
I thought this was a good read. How can I post the story in here without having to click the link? I tried copy/paste but it's not paportioned right.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview07/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=2984164
Cheatachu72
08-22-2007, 09:03 AM
CHICAGO -- When a reporter began to recite the list of players Ohio State's football team will have to replace this season -- stars such as Heisman Trophy winner Troy Smith and receivers Ted Ginn Jr. and Anthony Gonzalez -- Buckeyes coach Jim Tressel cut him off.
"You mention all those names and they're gone," Tressel said. "It makes me feel bad."
The defending Big Ten champion won't be the only team from the conference searching for an identity this season. Michigan, the 2006 Big Ten runner-up, must replace seven starters on defense, including All-American tackle Alan Branch and cornerback Leon Hall. Wisconsin must replace quarterback John Stocco, and Penn State must find replacements for leading rusher Tony Hunt and linebacker Paul Posluszny.
Three other Big Ten teams figure to endure even more difficult transitions. Indiana, Michigan State and Minnesota have new coaches. The Hoosiers promoted assistant head coach/offensive coordinator Bill Lynch to succeed Terry Hoeppner, who died June 19 after an 18-month battle with a brain tumor. The Spartans hired Cincinnati's Mark Dantonio to replace John L. Smith, who was fired, and the Gophers hired former NFL assistant Tim Brewster to succeed Glen Mason, who was ousted after 10 seasons.
Uncertainty also extended to the Big Ten's most high-profile teams at the end of the 2006 season. Ohio State and Michigan flopped in bowl games, raising questions about the league's overall strength.
Those factors, combined with the questions about expansion and scheduling, seem to place the Big Ten at a crossroads in 2007.
But Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said his league is stronger than ever.
"The Big Ten intercollegiate athletics are in a very healthy state, in particular, the sport of football," Delany said. "We've had teams not only compete on the national basis, as we've had two teams win a national championship in the past 10 years and competing for several more, but also within the conference. We've had eight different champions or co-champions in the past decade."
However, the 2006 postseason was one to forget for the Big Ten. Ohio State was pummeled by 27 points by Florida in the BCS Championship Game. Michigan, which was ranked No. 2 in the country for much of last season, lost to USC by two touchdowns in the Rose Bowl.
While Wisconsin finished 12-1 in coach Bret Bielema's first year, beating Arkansas 17-14 in the Capital One Bowl to end the season, the rest of the Big Ten was largely mediocre or worse in 2006.
Penn State finished 9-4 after replacing many starters from a team that lost only one game in 2005. Iowa finished with a losing record for the first time in six seasons, and Purdue lost at least five games for the third season in a row.
All told, six of the league's 11 teams finished the 2006 season with losing records. And its bad teams have been really, really bad. Illinois has lost 30 of its past 32 conference games and hasn't won more than one Big Ten game in a season since 2002. Indiana has lost 26 of its past 32 Big Ten games.
So when the Buckeyes and Wolverines were beaten so soundly in bowl games, the overall strength of the Big Ten was immediately scrutinized. Were Michigan and Ohio State really that good? Or did those teams simply pad their records against soft conference schedules?
"You feel a little bit like you let down the rest of the conference," Tressel said.
So much so that during the offseason, the Big Ten examined the way it finishes the regular season. Did the long layoffs contribute to another poor postseason showing? The conference has produced one winning bowl season since 1999, going 20-27 in postseason games the past seven seasons combined.
Ohio State was beaten 41-14 by the Gators after a 51-day layoff. Michigan lost to USC 32-18 after waiting 44 days to play. The Big Ten regular season ended Nov. 18 last season, two weeks earlier than most other leagues.
This spring, Big Ten coaches discussed adding a bye week to the schedule to extend the regular season, thus eliminating the long layoff between the regular-season finale and bowl games. But coaches voted against it because they didn't want their teams playing beyond Thanksgiving Day.
Delany also squashed any thoughts about expanding the Big Ten to 12 teams, which would enable the league to stage a conference championship game, like the ACC, Big 12, SEC and other conferences do.
"This shouldn't surprise anybody," Delany said. "We're not looking for a championship game. If we were looking for a championship game, we would have had one 15 years ago. We're looking for a stronger conference, a conference that works better for all 11 members. Our goal from our 11 institutions is how can we get better."
Don't tell Delany the league should start by recruiting better athletes. When a Chicago Sun-Times reporter suggested Big Ten teams couldn't compete with SEC teams because they weren't recruiting the best athletes, Delany defended his league's schools -- and seemed to criticize some SEC schools' academic standards.
"I love speed and the SEC has great speed, especially on the defensive line, but there are appropriate balances when mixing academics and athletics," Delany wrote in an open letter to Big Ten fans, which was published on the league's Web site Feb. 9.
"Each school, as well as each conference, simply must do what fits their mission regardless of what a recruiting service recommends. I wish we had six teams among the top 10 recruiting classes every year, but winning our way requires some discipline and restraint with the recruitment process. Not every athlete fits athletically, academically or socially at every university. Fortunately, we have been able to balance our athletic and academic mission so that we can compete successfully and keep faith with our academic standards."
Before criticizing the SEC, Delany pointed out the Big Ten's recent success against the league: a 2-1 record against SEC teams in bowl games last season; an 8-6 record against SEC teams in bowl games the last five years; and 15 BCS berths to the SEC's 13. Delany also noted that Big Ten teams have produced five Heisman Trophy winners in the past 15 years, compared to the SEC's one.
Tressel said Ohio State's bad loss to the Gators wasn't a result of the Buckeyes' being slower.
"I think they were both pretty fast," Tressel said. "There's no question Florida was a fast team, and Ohio State was a fast team. The first play of the game [Ginn's 93-yard kickoff return for a touchdown], it looked like we had the fastest guy in the world."
Illinois coach Ron Zook, who coached at Florida for three seasons, said Big Ten teams are well-equipped to beat their SEC counterparts.
"In my mind, there isn't any difference," Zook said. "We have every bit the speed that they do. In my mind, there is no question that this league can compete against anyone in the country."
It's time for Big Ten teams to start doing it.
Mark Schlabach covers college football and men's college basketball for ESPN.com. You can contact him at schlabachma@yahoo.com.
-didnt i just read an article yesterday about how Michigan had the second best recruiting class in the nation this year (behind USC)?
-Minnesota facing a tough transition this year? what from sucking last year to sucking this year...not much of a transition.
-Wisconsin having difficulty replacing John Stocco? the most popular guy on the Wisconsin campus is the backup QB (until he takes a snap... :p )
-Ann Arbor is a whore
-Sparty wears a skirt
feels good to know college football is coming soon :clap:
Cheatachu72
08-22-2007, 09:06 AM
oh yeah THE ohio state has the best recruits money can buy
josh33_unc
08-22-2007, 10:14 AM
Alabama has the best coach MONEY can buy :)
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This time, Bama really is back.
At least, it’s back on the cover of Sports Illustrated, the nation’s most respected sports magazine.
The University of Alabama football program is again the subject of an SI cover story, this time about the impact that the hiring of head coach Nick Saban has had on the program, and the excitement it has generated among Crimson Tide football fans.
The Aug. 27 edition of SI marks the 21st time that a person active in UA athletics has graced the national magazine’s cover.
The last time Alabama football was featured on the cover of SI was in the Oct. 10, 2005, issue, when quarterback Brodie Croyle was depicted after Alabama’s victory over Florida with a banner headline proclaiming, “ ‘Bama Is Back.”
This month’s article, written by Pulitzer Prize-winning author and UA journalism instructor Rick Bragg, explores Alabama fans’ expectations that Saban will return the program to its glory years.
He wrote, “They have welcomed him as Caesar, as pharaoh, and paid him enough money to burn a wet dog. Now he will take them forward by taking them back to the glory of their past — the 21 Southeastern Conference championships, the 12 national championships, the Team of the 20th Century (as The Wall Street Journal called the Crimson Tide in 2000).
“Saban has not promised them so much — ‘I don’t believe in predictions,’ he says — but they believe. It may take two years, three, more, to be in the discussion again when people talk about the best teams in college football. But they know he will take them home.”
Alabama football was first featured on an SI cover on Aug. 19, 1966, accompanying a story on legendary coach Paul W. “Bear” Bryant.
Alabama athletics — mostly football — was featured twice in the 1960s, seven times in the 1970s, twice in the 1980s, four times in the 1990s and seven times in the 2000s.
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josh33_unc
08-22-2007, 10:20 AM
i have the "bama is back" issue described in this story..(with brodie croyle on the cover, who is about to be the Chiefs starter this season)....following the 31-3 beatdown of florida http://www.rolltide.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=37427&SPID=3011&DB_OEM_ID=8000&ATCLID=231417
so i definitely have to grab this upcoming issue as well.
alabama had to send fans away because there were more than 92,000 that came to the annual a-day (red vs white) game
http://www.rolltide.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=37423&SPID=3011&DB_OEM_ID=8000&ATCLID=874544
wearmaize
10-26-2007, 11:49 AM
Let's see...
Bama is not doing well.
Minnisota is 1-7 with a loss to 1-AA North Dakota
Ohio State (1st in BCS) has beaten Purdue, the only team with remotely any quality.
Michigan is 6-2, 19th in the country with wins over 10 Penn State and a good Illinois, but losses to App State and Oregon (now top ten ranked).
Go blue.
tbakergobuck
10-28-2007, 06:54 AM
Ohio State didn't even punt once against Penn St.
flipn0tic
10-28-2007, 12:20 PM
I'll admit before this weekend that even I as an OSU alum and fan felt that the Bucks were overrated at #1 with the cupcake schedule we've had thus far, but with the decisive victory over Penn State, I'm convinced that we do have a shot. Still a rough road ahead but I can look forward with some confidence now rather than anxiety.
Of course even if OSU does finish the season on top the nation still won't give them any credit.
ccalvinn
10-28-2007, 06:06 PM
Of course even if OSU does finish the season on top the nation still won't give them any credit.
For everyone to give OSU credit they will have to beat an SEC team. The majority of people believe in the SEC hype machine that says a 3 loss SEC team is better than an unbeaten Big 10 team.
I believe that if OSU beats LSU in the title game it will set minds at ease, but if OSU beats BC, Oregon or Oklahoma people will believe that LSU/Georgia/Florida should be the true champion.
Of course this is all a pipe dream because when OSU loses to Michigan, they won't play in a National Championship game! :)
tbakergobuck
10-28-2007, 07:25 PM
Michigan beating Ohio State now thats a pipe dream. :hee: If Ohio State won another National Championship I could careless what other people think.
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