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AlpineMiata
04-27-2007, 09:00 AM
Sorry for the length of this post, but this process is still ongoing after nearly two months. All I'm trying to do is have my phone taken off it's old family account and put on my own.

Over month and a half ago my old contract expired. I've been with sprint for 8 years on a family plan that has three lines (years ago it had more). I called *2 to renew my contract and get a new phone, I had an old VGA1000. I explained to the lady that I was graduating college soon and would have to get off my parents plan, she told me that Transfers of Liability were easy to do and explained the process. After jokingly mentioning SERO to the lady she signed me up for a SERO 500 plan. The very next day a Q was shipped to me. I had planned to do all this at one of the few times of the year I would be at my parents (which is a several hour plane flight away) to make the transfer easier to do.

I went to the Sprint store by where my parents live and they activated my phone. I filled out my paper work and had my credit run and my dad filled out the necessary paperwork on his part. Two hours later after the store manager had been on the phone with Sprint, nobody could figure out why the Transfer of Liability wouldn't go through. They said an error came up on the screen that they had never seen before and that this process typically takes all of five minutes. They had no problems setting me up and empty shell account though, they just couldn't get my phone transfered to it.

The next day I was back at school and the original store I went to faxed all the paperwork up to my local store. I explained the problem to them, they tried running the transfer and the whole process repeated. They kept giving me dates that were a week away and told me to come back and it should work then. After going to the store at least once a week for over a month still nothing was working. They finally gave me a number for Employee Services and told me to call that to get things sorted out.

So this was last Friday when I called that number. Now when you call that number it says something along the lines of "Thank you for calling employee customer care" and asks you to put in your phone number. After that the line would go dead for a second and what sounded like normal *2 came up. The lady I talked to couldn't have been nicer, I stayed on the phone with her for two hours why she tried to figure out what was going on. At the end of that she said she had to put in a ticket with Technical Support. She said that she would call me back on Monday and tell me how things were going. Monday came, no call. Tuesday came and about 4pm I decided to call again. I called that number got a CSR who tried to help me for a while before telling me to call Employee Services. I tried to explain that I already had, but was transfered back to it anyway. Now that became and endless cycle for the next two hours of CSR's trying to help me (or not) with varying degrees of success before transferring me to that number and it not working for me. Not one had the same story or advice as the last.

Right when I decided to give up I got a call back from the CSR I had talked to on Friday. She told me that they still couldn't figure it out but that she would call me back when they could.

I have remained very calm and polite through this whole process. The problem is I have to get off my family plan, most likely by the end of the day. My parents have put up with this process long enough, which keeps being explained to us as being mind numbingly simple. I have classes all day at the end of the day I guess I'll try the Employee Service number again. After that I'm going to have to reluctantly go to Verizon and sign up for an account because it seems like that will be the only way for me to get on my own account. That will begin the whole process of trying to cancel my Sprint account without penalty and get them to refund the phone (which will probably be even more horrendous).

If anyone has any suggestions or comments please let me know. This process has been so frustrating and annoying. All I'm trying to do is get my phone off my parents account and on to my own account (which is already set up, but empty). Two Sprint Stores and endless hours on the phone with CSR's I'm about to give up and forget my 8 year history with the company.


jumonjii
04-27-2007, 10:08 AM
That's crazy.

There are several sprint reps on here, perhaps one of them can give you more information on what the "error" message is.

Jason Fate
04-27-2007, 10:33 AM
try calling back, and see if removing the SERO plan temporarily will solve the problem. if you get the CSR to note both accounts, you should have no problem getting the SERO plan back. maybe its somewhere in the terms and conditions of SERO that its not transferrable. this would be my next step.

AlpineMiata
04-27-2007, 10:45 AM
That was one of the things the lady I talked to last Friday tried and it didn't work.

joe123
04-27-2007, 11:00 AM
Two hours later after the store manager had been on the phone with Sprint, nobody could figure out why the Transfer of Liability wouldn't go through. They said an error came up on the screen that they had never seen before and that this process typically takes all of five minutes.

I have had these type of Sprint "errors" and many more. Sprint is great at playing games - you need to be persistent.

I was at a Sprint store yesterday shopping for a new phone. I was there for a long time checking out each phone in detail. While I was at the store, 3 different reps helped me, each gave me a completly different story as to the refunds and other things I would get.

When I pointed out to the rep that the other rep standing 10 feet away just contracdicted him/her, they looked at me as in "and your point is?"

Welcome to Sprint :laughing: Whatever you do with Sprint, make sure you get it in writing (see my sig).

jumonjii
04-27-2007, 11:26 AM
I would think they notated your account with these issues. Why can't they just cancel it without ETF....because it's their error, and then set up a new account for you?


Maybe they would have better luck with the p2k system... if it's available. I've read it's much easier to use than the current system.

AlpineMiata
04-27-2007, 12:11 PM
I've heard several reps both in store and on the phone mention p2k. I really don't know the extent of what has been tried because most of the time they put me on hold and come back every now and again to tell me they are still working on it. It's so hard to get a rep on the phone that will actually help me though, most of them just tell me they can't do anything and tell me to go back to the store.

kirky
04-28-2007, 07:15 AM
why not call and ask for tech support, they might be able to help u more, i find them a little more knowledgable than reg csr(srry) or call retentions they have helped me more with probs than anyone

Obliark
04-28-2007, 12:26 PM
What was the error code, and was the Sprint store using RMS or P2k? Did your line need a depsoit on the new account? Any of that might help.

steezY one
05-02-2007, 10:15 PM
AlpineMiata, next time you speak to a rep, find out which billing system your parents are on and which billing system your shell account is on. I'm wondering if your parents are on the old P2K billing system and your shell account is set up on the new Ensemble billing system, or vice versa. It seems unlikely, because so far every rep I've spoken to has only had access to one or the other, but it's worth a try. I believe that could definitely generate some problems if you are on two different billing systems.

Have you asked them to just cancel off your line and then start fresh? Seems like that would be the simplest way to take care of it...

AlpineMiata
05-02-2007, 10:52 PM
Sorry I haven't update on this yet, I've been busy.

I called again last Friday and actually got through to Employee Care. The guy I got tried to run my transfer and said he had never seen that error before (surprise). He said he sent it to his boss in an email and his boss had never seen it before either. He said he was going to call tech support for me and call me back in a bit. A about 20 minutes later he called me back and said they didn't know what it was either so they were putting in a support ticket with their help desk. He said he would call back on Monday or Tuesday with the results. Now this sounded like the exact same thing that happened to me two Fridays ago. So far this guy hasn't called back but I did ask him to actually write down all this in my account so hopefully I won't have to explain quite as much each time I call in (and hopefully the support ticket number is in there so any rep can look it up for me).

Obliark, I'm still not sure what the error is though but I'll ask next time I call. They weren't using p2k because they were talking about how they wish they had access to is. No my account didn't require a deposit.

steezY one, Your idea of the p2k / ensemble mix up sounds like it might be it though. My parents account is an old grandfathered business plan that hasn't been changed in a while.

I really can't cancel because the phone number is on quite a few job applications right now. Thats why I'm starting to feel porting the number to Verizon might be the easiest way (sadly). Thanks to everyone for the help and suggestions so far. Hopefully I'll get a chance to call Employee Care again tomorrow and I'll update everyone on the results. Which will probably be the same as they have been for the last two months :irked: I might try calling Retentions to because I get the feeling they might be able to magically make the error go away.

steezY one
05-02-2007, 11:12 PM
steezY one, Your idea of the p2k / ensemble mix up sounds like it might be it though. My parents account is an old grandfathered business plan that hasn't been changed in a while.


If you are comfortable PM'ing me your phone number and parent's account number, along with your new shell account number, I would be able to tell you in about two seconds if that is the case.

If not, that is completely understandable as well.

Make sure to ask the rep tomorrow, and if that is the case all you should need to do is have them close out the shell and open it up on the same billing system that your parents' account is on.

steezY one
05-03-2007, 10:42 AM
Another idea, if you don't mind the hastle, is to try to port your number out to a prepaid and then back in. It would be a pain, but if your heart is set on Sprint and the other suggestions don't work, it may be your only option.

Ronkh
05-04-2007, 03:35 PM
WARNING !!!!

Do not PM anyone your number unless you know and trust the person.

steezY one
05-04-2007, 03:39 PM
WARNING !!!!

Do not PM anyone your number unless you know and trust the person.

I completely agree with that, which is why I asked him not to do it unless he was comfortable with giving me that information.

seaduced
05-06-2007, 04:38 PM
Hi Alpine,
Check out my thread from 2006. No one in the store or at *2 could separate our accounts. Credit was fine - it
was just the computer wouldn't separate them. They assigned one number a different account number but when the social security and address was changed for one - it automatically changed it for the other. I spent hours at the store and on the phone. No one could figure it out. I didn't want to cancel even though they would waive the ETF for fear of losing my number and/or the SERO plan. I finally wrote an email explaining the problem and giving all the information they needed for each account (SS, phone #, addresses, names) exactly as each account should be and it got fixed. My advice to you is put it in writing. They can spend the time necessary to figure it out.
Good Luck ! http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89702&highlight=transfer+liability

AlpineMiata
05-15-2007, 11:34 AM
I didn't even notice there were more replys to this thread, never got the email saying it.

I've been busy with finals coming up so I haven't really had the time to follow up on this issue. It just got way to frustrating to deal with. I never got a call back the second time and the few times I have tried to call in the 30min hold time has made me hang up. At the end of next week I'll have all the time in the world to solve it though. Plus my parents (who have given up trying to solve this too for the time being too) will be around which will make it easier to get past the initial talk with the rep (most of them won't help me unless both account holders are there, unless they read the pages of notes on the account to believe my frustration).

Hi Alpine,
Check out my thread from 2006. No one in the store or at *2 could separate our accounts. Credit was fine - it
was just the computer wouldn't separate them. They assigned one number a different account number but when the social security and address was changed for one - it automatically changed it for the other. I spent hours at the store and on the phone. No one could figure it out. I didn't want to cancel even though they would waive the ETF for fear of losing my number and/or the SERO plan. I finally wrote an email explaining the problem and giving all the information they needed for each account (SS, phone #, addresses, names) exactly as each account should be and it got fixed. My advice to you is put it in writing. They can spend the time necessary to figure it out.
Good Luck ! http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89702&highlight=transfer+liability

I looked through your thread and I'm going to write it all out for e-care and try it that way. We'll see what happens.

On a side not I did have someone PM me with an @sprint.com email address saying they could help me, not sure if I want to though because they just joined the forum. I think I'll just stick to the known e-care addresses.

steezY one
05-15-2007, 11:43 AM
Still available to help you out with figuring out which billing system you guys are on, if you need it.

seaduced
05-15-2007, 12:54 PM
Also, I included the drivers license number of who is responsible for each account. Good Luck .

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