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Dan
03-05-2007, 09:19 PM
Penguins declare arena talks impasse, move closer to leaving
Associated Press Mar 5, 2007, 4:09 PM EST



PITTSBURGH (AP) -The Penguins moved a step closer to leaving Pittsburgh, declaring on Monday an impasse in their new arena negotiations with state and local leaders and saying they will actively pursue relocation.

The breakdown in arena talks came only three days after Gov. Ed Rendell said he felt an agreement was close. It also increases the possibility the Penguins will be playing in Kansas City next season.

"We have made a single-minded effort to bring this new arena to a successful conclusion and keep the team in Pittsburgh," owners Mario Lemieux and Ron Burkle said in a letter to Rendell and local government officials. "... Our good-faith efforts have not produced a deal, however, and have only added more anxiety to what we thought at best was a risky proposition for us moving forward."

In the letter, Lemieux and Burkle put the blame for the impasse on government officials, arguing they agreed to pay $120 million over 30 years to help build a $290 million arena and cover construction cost overruns, yet still have not reached a deal.

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman became involved in the talks several weeks ago, but also has been unable to finalize an agreement.

"We can do no more," Lemieux, the longtime Penguins star, and Burkle said in the letter.

The Penguins had an agreement with Isle of Capri Casinos to build the arena at no expense to the team or taxpayers in exchange for a license to build a Pittsburgh slots casino, but a state board in December chose a competing bid.

On Jan. 4, the team, state, city and Allegheny County began negotiating an alternate arena funding plan. At the time, government officials were asking for the team to contribute about $4.1 million per year, but lowered that to $2.8 million during the first round of negotiations.

During subsequent talks, the Penguins agreed to up that annual contribution to $3.6 million, plus $400,000 in operating expenses, after the state said there was a funding shortfall. However, the two sides still could not close a deal.



Kansas City has offered its nearly completed Sprint Center to the Penguins rent-free. The Penguins would also gain revenue from development projects around the arena.

However, the Penguins would be leaving one of the NHL's strongest U.S. markets for a smaller one that lost an NHL team in 1976 after only two seasons because of lack of support. The Penguins' home attendance and local TV ratings are among the strongest of the 24 United States-based franchises.

When Lemieux's group bought the team in federal bankruptcy court in 1999, the Hall of Fame player said he did so to ensure the team's existence in Pittsburgh.

The Penguins' hardball negotiating stance comes with the team contending for a playoff spot for the first time in six years. A youthful team led by NHL scoring leader Sidney Crosby and rookies Evgeni Malkin and Jordan Staal has become one of the league's prime attendance draws.

At home, the Penguins are playing to nearly 96 percent of arena capacity for the season. All of their remaining nine home games are expected to attract standing-room-only crowds.

The Penguins also have begun selling season tickets for the 2007-08 season in Pittsburgh, even though they have not agreed to play there another season.

"They're tough negotiators," Rendell said.


Source: www.nhl.com

NASCAR14FAN
03-05-2007, 09:34 PM
I think both sides are being jerks here! Now, it seems that the Pens just don't care anymore! KC here we come! :irked:

LJA
03-06-2007, 12:03 PM
They'd be welcomed in Little Rock! We miss hockey.

Dan
03-06-2007, 02:42 PM
I think both sides are being jerks here! Now, it seems that the Pens just don't care anymore! KC here we come! :irked:


I dunno what the team's finances are like now as opposed to when Mario bought them. I know that the sabres had to get the HSBC arena debt discharged to make the team viable under the old league structure, and now are still not turning a big profit with a sold out season.

You can "cook" the books however you want. The team had agreed to the $120 million over 30 years for lease payments it seemed, but didn't want to have to cover the cost over-runs.

Working construction, over-runs on a project like that can easily add 10% or more so it could be another 30 million up front. When KC is offering a rent free arena, $120-150 million over 30 years is a lot of money!

I personally hope the Pens stay in Pittsburgh. They are a close rival of the sabres, and like Toronto and Montreal they seem to have a number of fans that will follow their team to "close" away games. I don't see Columbus generating the same results :(

Here's hoping the state, city and team can work something out. If not, FloorMatt seems to hope they move to Houston!


:wavey:

kulnet
03-06-2007, 03:02 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing them come to Houston...

willwise
03-07-2007, 06:47 PM
On kc radio today they were talking about the possibility of being sold by Lemeux to people who would move the team. I don't think that would happen but I would love to see the Kansas City Penguins

NASCAR14FAN
03-07-2007, 07:16 PM
On kc radio today they were talking about the possibility of being sold by Lemeux to people who would move the team. I don't think that would happen but I would love to see the Kansas City Penguins

It's likely that they would change the name as well :irked:

Dan
03-12-2007, 02:50 AM
It's likely that they would change the name as well :irked:


I could see them coming to a new city as the penguins and then having a "name the team" contest, kinda the the Houston Oilers came to Tennessee as the Oilers before getting their new name.

NASCAR14FAN
03-12-2007, 07:16 AM
I could see them coming to a new city as the penguins and then having a "name the team" contest, kinda the the Houston Oilers came to Tennessee as the Oilers before getting their new name.

Sucks! I don't want the Pens to leave :irked: ! The state took our money and paid for 2 stadiums for the Pirates and the Steelers, and the Pirates still suck! :irked: They might as well just give Mario the damn money and be done with it. There was some good news though... There has been talk about geeting the league to relalax it's rule on public ownership of teams. So that stock can be sold to people in Allegheny County! I'd buy 1000 shares :clap:

 
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