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Interesting article, after reading that, I think a take-over is unlikely, at this time.
Dan
02-28-2007, 09:20 PM
Comcastic Wireless?
:wavey:
TRADEDATE
02-28-2007, 09:28 PM
I would like to see Comcast buy Sprint.
Then I could get a discount for having my home phone, cable, internet, & cell phone all on one bill.
shamefulzero
02-28-2007, 09:29 PM
so what if sprint turns the tables and buys out time warner, or Comcast, or Cox. Turns it into sprint home tv and Home internet. like Verizon has?
or...is sprint even able to put themselves in the auction seat for Alltel with 22 Billion in debt?
geez sprint buying alltel would be great.
ImSoNotEmo
02-28-2007, 09:29 PM
it'll happen :(
shamefulzero
02-28-2007, 09:31 PM
it'll happen :(
what will happen?
Dan
02-28-2007, 09:32 PM
so what if sprint turns the tables and buys out time warner, or Comcast, or Cox. Turns it into sprint home tv and Home internet. like Verizon has?
or...is sprint even able to put themselves in the auction seat for Alltel with 22 Billion in debt?
geez sprint buying alltel would be great.
I dont think sprint could line up the financing to do another merger at this time.
I do think something will be accounced soon as far as sprint getting aquired goes. :Popcorn2:
:wavey:
Wayne 1
02-28-2007, 09:34 PM
As long as they leave my deals alone, I'm fine with who-ever or what-ever. :tu:
ImSoNotEmo
02-28-2007, 09:36 PM
what will happen?
A merge lol
shamefulzero
02-28-2007, 09:38 PM
I dont think sprint could line up the financing to do another merger at this time.
I do think something will be accounced soon as far as sprint getting aquired goes. :Popcorn2:
:wavey:
well. ill jump ship if its Time-Warner who buys i've heard nothing but bad about them. but its just rumors right?
shamefulzero
02-28-2007, 09:40 PM
A merge lol
a merger with the TV company? or Alltel? i was talking about 2 different things in that post
ImSoNotEmo
02-28-2007, 09:41 PM
I wish alltel but I dont think that will ever happen
Wayne 1
02-28-2007, 09:42 PM
Comcast :Popcorn2:
rip
02-28-2007, 10:08 PM
Nobody is buying Sprint, too much divestment for wireless companies, markets cant overlap where there would not be enough competitors. And Sprints spectrum footprint is nationwide, which means in much of the country the only thing VZW would get is some more customers. No cable company wants to buy a company that needs as much work as Sprint Nextel does. They want a quick buck, not to have to spend many billions to be where they want to be. Sprint and Alltel could merge with an all stock merger similar to the Nextel merger. Low out of pocket cost, a couple of billion for the premium, thats it. Little would have to be divested because Alltel covers mainly Sprints affiliate markets and in those markets Sprint is not a major player. In most cases local and small regional carriers have more market share than Sprint in the affiliate markets. so an Alltel Sprint merger would get approval before anything else.
shamefulzero
02-28-2007, 10:18 PM
do you think sprint would actully go after Alltel? because i read that VZW is after them
loveshinesthru
02-28-2007, 11:41 PM
isnt alltel gsm?
JeffDTD
02-28-2007, 11:48 PM
God, if Verizon gets alltell, they will just gobble them up and alltell will be no more, and they will have the best CDMA coverage of all, and also the ability to start locking sprint out of roaming agreements :(
ImSoNotEmo
03-01-2007, 12:20 AM
isnt alltel gsm?
Nope CDMA just like us! :)
macuser09
03-01-2007, 12:52 AM
Verizon isn't after them as they are busy trying to get money together to buy all verizon shares from vodaphone. They have tried once but apparently didn't have enough money yet to entice vodaphone. If Verizon bought alltel that price would just go up which is what they don't want. Sprint is a more likely suitor to Alltel with the limited overlap in coverage. With verizon a lot and I mean a lot of markets would have to be sold off.
loveshinesthru
03-01-2007, 02:12 AM
would be nice if sprint bought out alltel then?
Dan
03-01-2007, 03:37 AM
Lets see what the next few months (or less) holds for sprint.
:wavey:
ryanlk
03-01-2007, 04:16 AM
what will happen?
he meant the 'take over'...
larry
03-01-2007, 12:39 PM
God, if Verizon gets alltell, they will just gobble them up and alltell will be no more, and they will have the best CDMA coverage of all, and also the ability to start locking sprint out of roaming agreements :(
Do you really think Verizon would want to lock Sprint out of roaming agreements? No chance. Verizon makes great money off of roaming revenue and have had a roaming partnership with Sprint for years and years. If they wanted to lock Sprint out they could have done that a long time ago in places like California where they're pretty much Sprint's only choice for roaming. Also Verizon relies on Sprint a lot for roaming as well and just added them back in their PRL for the Los Angeles market.
If anything I would be more concerned about the possibility of a GSM carrier buying Alltel and then converting the network to GSM.
Dan
03-01-2007, 01:05 PM
Do you really think Verizon would want to lock Sprint out of roaming agreements? No chance. Verizon makes great money off of roaming revenue and have had a roaming partnership with Sprint for years and years. If they wanted to lock Sprint out they could have done that a long time ago in places like California where they're pretty much Sprint's only choice for roaming. Also Verizon relies on Sprint a lot for roaming as well and just added them back in their PRL for the Los Angeles market.
If anything I would be more concerned about the possibility of a GSM carrier buying Alltel and then converting the network to GSM.
Verizon + Alltel would be able to cover their own coverage gaps and lock sprint out fairly easily. They would have the ability to borrow enough cash to make a big push to cover areas where sprint is their roaming partner to eliminate the need for sprint roaming.
It makes good business sense to lock out a competator from roaming on your network, if your basically the only choice. Verizon + alltel would not need sprint, and ending the roaming agreements would make sprint a distant 3rd as far as native coverage goes.
I dont see a GSM carrier buying a CDMA one and converting the system as the cost would be quite high.
:wavey:
larry
03-01-2007, 01:16 PM
I don't believe that will happen. Remember that any Verizon purchase of Alltel would result in heavy fed scrutiny and Verizon would have to divest a number of Alltel/Verizon properties which would then have to be sold off to another carrier (US Cellular and/or Sprint maybe?).
sprintadv
03-01-2007, 01:34 PM
Larry: maybe Sprint would encourage that to capture cheaper assets!
Matt
03-01-2007, 01:38 PM
I think it will happen. Comcast already has wireless in Portland and they use Sprints network.
larry
03-01-2007, 01:50 PM
Larry: maybe Sprint would encourage that to capture cheaper assets!
Yeah on paper it looks like a good opportunity for Sprint to take away some of the Alltel/Verizon properties that will have to be sold off. US Cellular would be their main competition on that.
Mikecintel
03-01-2007, 02:43 PM
Oh my, If Comcast does buy Sprint and I hope they do not. I wonder will they still have the Sprint and will the store change and they will not have a Sprint logo or what. Better yet the main thing is customer service. If Comcast does buy Sprint I hope there CS will not suck like VZ.
Mike
Dan
03-01-2007, 03:09 PM
I don't believe that will happen. Remember that any Verizon purchase of Alltel would result in heavy fed scrutiny and Verizon would have to divest a number of Alltel/Verizon properties which would then have to be sold off to another carrier (US Cellular and/or Sprint maybe?).
They would have to sell off excessive capacity in areas where they are each others competition. The federal scrutiny doesn't seem to exist currently with the AT&T merger getting approved.
anskY
03-01-2007, 03:29 PM
Verizon can't buy alltel...Then who will Verizon Moto users get their flashes from?
larry
03-01-2007, 03:32 PM
They would have to sell off excessive capacity in areas where they are each others competition. The federal scrutiny doesn't seem to exist currently with the AT&T merger getting approved.
For once I would like to see the feds step in a block a mega merger like this. All it's going to do is lead to higher prices down the road for everyone. But we all know that's not going to happen. The feds will basically allow anything nowdays regardless of whether it's good for the consumer or not.
loveshinesthru
03-01-2007, 03:53 PM
this was posted on the consumerist http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1035_22-6162763.html
Wayne 1
03-01-2007, 03:58 PM
Lobbyist's are constantly trying to influence politicans (any way they can) in order to get around laws and influence new legislation. The feds break up companies and then let them join back together (AT&T for one). Weird! :bang:
Deval
03-02-2007, 07:08 AM
I don't believe anyone will be buying Sprint anytime soon...though AllTel has signed that roaming agreement with Sprint, which generates revenue for both companies.
Malibu
03-02-2007, 07:53 PM
Actually, it's Cox Communications. Check out this link.....they are already in place in a couple of areas.....more to come this year. It's called Mobile Access from Cox and Sprint;
http://www.cox.com/mobile/
Dan
03-02-2007, 10:40 PM
Actually, it's Cox Communications. Check out this link.....they are already in place in a couple of areas.....more to come this year. It's called Mobile Access from Cox and Sprint;
http://www.cox.com/mobile/
Sprint has resale agreements with cox, TWC, comcast and probably more cable companies. It lets the cable companies bundle wireless along with VOIP, high speed internet and digital cable to compete fully with ATT and Verizon.
:wavey:
shamefulzero
03-02-2007, 11:50 PM
so the bottom line after 3 pages of this thread is that sprint wont be bought out right? i cant wait for all of this to settle. and have sprint have everything complete with nextel so that its just sprint with Walkie Talkie devices. sprint offering kick ***** top of the line services. and they get back to what they were in 2002. Cmon sprint!
Wayne 1
03-03-2007, 02:32 PM
so the bottom line after 3 pages of this thread is that sprint wont be bought out right? i cant wait for all of this to settle. and have sprint have everything complete with nextel so that its just sprint with Walkie Talkie devices. sprint offering kick ***** top of the line services. and they get back to what they were in 2002. Cmon sprint!
Some senior people are convinced they are going to sell out. IF and this is a big IF, conditions will improve for existing and future customers, maybe it would be a good situation. Who knows....... :)
crash2manyx
03-03-2007, 03:29 PM
Oh my, If Comcast does buy Sprint and I hope they do not. I wonder will they still have the Sprint and will the store change and they will not have a Sprint logo or what. Better yet the main thing is customer service. If Comcast does buy Sprint I hope there CS will not suck like VZ.
Mike
well comcast's cust svc isn't that bad, t-mo is the best that i've found, sprint itsn't that great so pretty much anything would be an improvement
Mikecintel
03-04-2007, 08:09 AM
HI Crash2manyx
OK yes since I live in NYC I don't know much about Comcast because they don't have Comcast in NYC. I never tired T-mobile so I do not know about there cust svc. Oh Sprint isn't that great for cust svc why? I never had problems with Sprint when I talk to there cust svc. They have resolved my problems and they are VERY FRIENDLY. Unlike VZ 100x worse that you can forget about because I have dealt with them many times and oh my their monkeys. All they do in VZ there CS is they scream at you for no reason. At least Sprint is not like that.
Mike
Wayne 1
03-04-2007, 10:27 AM
Unlike VZ 100x worse that you can forget about because I have dealt with them many times and oh my their monkeys. All they do in VZ there CS is they scream at you for no reason. At least Sprint is not like that.
Mike
CS screaming at customers, that is not cool!
MidwestDrummer
03-04-2007, 12:51 PM
What on earth are you talking about? Verizon has consistently had one of, if not, the top customer service departments of any wireless carrier. I'm not a homer for VZW, and I'm not a user of their products or services (I do them though, along with Alltel and AT&T), but I, for one, wish Sprint had at least half of the kindness, patience and drive to help the customer that VZW customer service has. Not only does this link (http://www22.verizon.com/about/executivecenter/bestoflists/2006awardsandrecognition.html) echo my statements, but I've heard many kind words from VZW customers, and whenever I've had to call VZW CS for one of my customers, I've only had positive experiences.
VZW Customer Service > Sprint Customer Service...and it's not even close.
Deval
03-04-2007, 03:43 PM
I'll tell you 1 thing...every time I've called CS, they've been willing to help me...I'm not sure what people complain about.
DJRider
03-04-2007, 04:08 PM
I'll tell you 1 thing...every time I've called CS, they've been willing to help me...I'm not sure what people complain about.
I guess I have been very lucky also. CS has always tried to help me and have always been very polite. I was with Nextel for 5 years and I really have not had any bad experiences since I switched to the Sprint side. I do not see any difference since I switched.
shamefulzero
03-04-2007, 04:17 PM
yeah.. no take over is going to happen.. sprint will stay sprint. they will begin to recover from the losses either this quarter or next. you have to have faith in them. especially if your a member here. you gotta think. they wouldnt have bought nextel if it wouldnt have worked. sprint will be back to greatness soon!
rip
03-04-2007, 09:56 PM
do you think sprint would actully go after Alltel? because i read that VZW is after them
No i do not think this would happen. VZW would have to divest way too many markets for a buyout of Alltel to make sense.
It wouldn't surprise me if Sprint will be gobbled up.
I lurk around some stock trading boards and a few folks have been buzzing about a potential takeover. :irked:
We'll see how this all pans out this year.... I kinda hope nothing will though.
Just might lead up to 1 or 2 cell provider(s) someday!!!
Something will happen, or it wont. Likely it will depend on how great a "merger rumor" premium has been added to the stock to determine if its financially viable.
:wavey:
Mikecintel
03-05-2007, 09:45 AM
Hi Wayne1
Yes Scream is not cool.
Mike
Mikecintel
03-05-2007, 09:50 AM
Hi MidwestDrummer
What I am talking about is when I call Verizon they do scream I am telling you and it seems I always get a rep with an attitude. I guess you are the lucky ones you never encounter that problem. Lucky you. I do not think they are the "top customer service department". I always had problems with there home phone and their services. I always had problems for VZ especially there DSL. Now I am not with there DSL thank god. You have no idea how bad VZ is because I had my co-worker working them and it was a nightmare.
Mike
Evan702
03-05-2007, 10:06 AM
I'll tell you 1 thing...every time I've called CS, they've been willing to help me...I'm not sure what people complain about.
Either Verizon or Sprint will buy them out since it has a good CDMA network in the south. Alltel powered by sprint?
As the article says, each carrier has its own issues with completing an alltel merger or aquisition. Sprint is still trying to do the nextel merger, verizon would have to convince vodaphone to do it, and AT&T along with T-Mobile would have to convert the majority of the network to GSM, or get true hybrid GSM/CDMA phones to make it worthwhile.
Mikecintel
03-05-2007, 01:32 PM
Hi crash2manyx
What I meant by scream is like they are yelling at the customers. I forgot to put the ing in screaming. Sorry
Mike
JeffDTD
03-05-2007, 03:08 PM
God oh precious baby, I freakin wish Sprint would get some cash together and just grab them. I mean, they have so many things that sprint wants. That, and it would definately change public perception of sprint's network.
Nextel should have NEVER EVER happened.
As Alltell "shops" themselves around, my biggest question is this: As they ponder a "merger" what do they really have in mind? At 12 million customers, theres no "merger".. its more or less an absorption. ... Do they want any part of what they have created to live on? I mean, i believe it should.. but that would mean that whoever takes them in would have to devise some alteration in their image.
Then again, don't we have ALOT of openings in the executive management of sprint? Len Lauer's spot? I mean, why not buy alltell, work out some sort reimagination of offerings, and put alltells key executives in control at different levels of sprint? Sprint could stand to benefit from the influence of a well run wireless company
crash2manyx
03-05-2007, 03:50 PM
Hi crash2manyx
What I meant by scream is like they are yelling at the customers. I forgot to put the ing in screaming. Sorry
Mike
lol, actually, after reading it again, it must have been too early for me to get on the computer cause i makes perfect sence now
larry
03-05-2007, 05:11 PM
Nextel should have NEVER EVER happened.
You could argue that from a financial point of view however without the Nextel merger there would be less Sprint CDMA coverage right now in the big cities like NYC, LA, Chicago, etc. I am very glad the Nextel merger happened because the Los Angeles market (for example) got hundreds of new synergy cell sites out of the deal which has dramatically improved coverage. That would not have been possible without the merger.
monkeyboy
03-05-2007, 07:36 PM
I am very glad the Nextel merger happened because the Los Angeles market (for example) got hundreds of new synergy cell sites out of the deal which has dramatically improved coverage. That would not have been possible without the merger.Well, I'm glad that the merger benefitted someone... because here in Upstate, NY, we got ZIP. Coverage is if anything *worse* than pre-merger, and prices/rates are higher. And still no EVDO...
NASCAR14FAN
03-05-2007, 07:44 PM
Sprint should buy Alltel! :Popcorn2:
Dan
03-05-2007, 08:11 PM
Well, I'm glad that the merger benefitted someone... because here in Upstate, NY, we got ZIP. Coverage is if anything *worse* than pre-merger, and prices/rates are higher. And still no EVDO...
You have to factor in the fact that most of Upstate NY was not Nextel, it was Nextel partners and that transaction closed quite recently. A customer in a nextel partners area still can not buy a hybrid phone, unless they changed it in the last couple of weeks.
Sprint was not utilizing the nextel partner tower's for improved coverage, so the nextel deal did nothing fir Upstate NY in the short term. Long term, who knows what sprint plans for co-locating.
As far as saying that without the merger, sprint and nextel would not have developed some arrangement for co-locating on towers is silly. Many competitive companies co-locate to save money and to get approval for a tower to be built in a town. Near my daughters school, one tower has 6 different companies panels on it!
:wavey:
I hope S/N can get this going good with these hybrid phones, and release a few that are true CDMA sprint phones with 800mhz CDMA roaming that you can choose iDEN PTT or CDMA roaming on. Sadly, the current hybrids are lacking for CDMA roaming :(
larry
03-05-2007, 08:12 PM
Well, I'm glad that the merger benefitted someone... because here in Upstate, NY, we got ZIP. Coverage is if anything *worse* than pre-merger, and prices/rates are higher. And still no EVDO...
Affiliate area?
Michael0o
03-05-2007, 08:17 PM
good article! i like it！
bobo37
03-05-2007, 09:08 PM
Affiliate area?
NO
and verizon has had EVDO in Syracuse and Albany for at least 6 months
cdkb
03-05-2007, 10:42 PM
God oh precious baby, I freakin wish Sprint would get some cash together and just grab them. I mean, they have so many things that sprint wants. That, and it would definately change public perception of sprint's network.
Nextel should have NEVER EVER happened.
As Alltell "shops" themselves around, my biggest question is this: As they ponder a "merger" what do they really have in mind? At 12 million customers, theres no "merger".. its more or less an absorption. ... Do they want any part of what they have created to live on? I mean, i believe it should.. but that would mean that whoever takes them in would have to devise some alteration in their image.
Then again, don't we have ALOT of openings in the executive management of sprint? Len Lauer's spot? I mean, why not buy alltell, work out some sort reimagination of offerings, and put alltells key executives in control at different levels of sprint? Sprint could stand to benefit from the influence of a well run wireless company
:good:
rip
03-06-2007, 08:27 AM
VZW is not interested in buying Alltel, or any large company right now. The problem for them is the same as it is for Sprint Nextel or AT&T. Buying a nationwide chunk of 700mhz spectrum and building the network to utilize this spectrum will cost less than Alltel.
JMurray853
03-06-2007, 08:41 AM
There was a really good article about the Nextel Sprint merger in the Wall Street Journal a couple of months ago. It spoke about the fact that when combining the companies they tried to integrate the management of the two too much and basically created duplicate executive positions with different titles. This then caused friction and made decision making and moving forward next to impossible.
This is only a portion of the article, wsj subsribers can login and view the whole thing
http://users2.wsj.com/lmda/do/checkLogin?mg=wsj-users2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB1160 48367524088013.html%3Fmod%3Dhome_whats_news_us
mossimo278
03-06-2007, 09:12 AM
I'm all for a Alltel/Sprint merger. Sprint has the cities covered, while Alltel has the rural areas covered. Atleast in my area. "NexSprinAlltel" here we come! IMO.
JeffDTD
03-06-2007, 09:47 AM
Yes, i do continue to wonder what AllTell wants to happen to their legacy?
If Verizon "were" to buy them on some whim, the red regime would swallow them whole and spit up more verizon stores, phones, and unchanged plan offerings.
I think we could count on Sprint atleast carrying on , perhaps, their "my circle" promotion and making it known that Alltell was now part of the Sprint Family.
Hell, why now throw a little blue in the moving forward logo? Just a thought
djlo
03-06-2007, 11:29 AM
Interesting... I don't think its worthy of a new thread but....
March 1:
William E. Kennard has resigned from the board of Sprint Nextel Corp.
what happened to all the other open seats that were going to be filled by now? any news of them being filled? is gary wanting to run this company by himself?
Dan
03-06-2007, 02:20 PM
what happened to all the other open seats that were going to be filled by now? any news of them being filled? is gary wanting to run this company by himself?
Maybe a super acquisition and merger is in the cards? Comcast buys alltel and sprint? :lol:
:wavey:
JeffDTD
03-06-2007, 03:44 PM
I feel like Forsee is trying to run the company by himself. vacancies are abundant, from what we hear.
Dan, an acquisition by comcast... would that be a good thing?
What does everyone think? Things could improve in many ways, but they also wouldn't be able to take away any of the perks that have defined Sprint to millions of us
larry
03-06-2007, 03:54 PM
I have to question the odds of a cable company or other private investment firm buying Alltel. Nothing like that has ever happened before in wireless and until it does I believe that another major carrier will be the most likely scenario.
djlo
03-06-2007, 03:55 PM
Maybe a super acquisition and merger is in the cards? Comcast buys alltel and sprint? :lol:
:wavey:
Heck, you never know! :haha:
Dan
03-06-2007, 05:00 PM
Name Symbol Last Trade Change Mkt Cap
Sprint Nextel Corporation S 19.69 +0.08 (0.41%) 57.00B
Verizon Communications Inc. VZ 36.48 +0.35 (0.97%) 106.50B
Alltel Corporation AT 60.21 +1.61 (2.75%) 22.50B
Comcast Corporation CMCSA 25.88 +0.58 (2.29%) 80.79B
Verizon has the biggest value, with sprint about half the size. I could see sprint going with alltel, alltel "buying" sprint though alltel has the lower value, comcast buying either sprint or alltel, or all companies continuing "as is" for the near future.
I'd be happy with sprint and alltel together. Who bought who wouldn't matter to me :) Sprint + Comcast likely wouldn't have a great benefit to me, though if Comcast can invest into sprint to build out the network, then great!
Sprint alone seems to have a slow growth in tower sites and customers for the near future, but if 4G is launched successfully Sprint could be the biggest player of all in mobile high speed internet, which is a money making item big businesses will drop their current provider for in a heartbeat.
Wayne 1
03-06-2007, 09:43 PM
Maybe a super acquisition and merger is in the cards? Comcast buys alltel and sprint? :lol:
:wavey:
I've been thinking about this some more since the AT&T deal. Maybe Sprint merging with another company or companies wouldn't be a negative for us. Maybe it would improve Sprint's bottom line. On the other hand some people would lose jobs, they nearly always do in a merger.
rip
03-06-2007, 10:58 PM
I feel like Forsee is trying to run the company by himself. vacancies are abundant, from what we hear.
Dan, an acquisition by comcast... would that be a good thing?
What does everyone think? Things could improve in many ways, but they also wouldn't be able to take away any of the perks that have defined Sprint to millions of us
Many people forget that AT&T spun off Comcast a few years back. But still owns a very large share of Comcast. So in effect if Comcast bought Sprint Nextel, AT&T would be buying Sprint Nextel........NOT GONNA HAPPEN. Period.
AT&T really is Comcast still, the whole "spin off" was nothing more than a name change burying the owners name under a two mile stack of subsidiaries and divisions.
tsc_busami
03-06-2007, 11:23 PM
sprints been in talks with comcast for over a year and a half
rip
03-06-2007, 11:30 PM
sprints been in talks with comcast for over a year and a half
Not for a merger or buyout, Comcast is but one of the cable companies that are teaming up with Sprint to offer bundled services.
shamefulzero
03-06-2007, 11:45 PM
Many people forget that AT&T spun off Comcast a few years back. But still owns a very large share of Comcast. So in effect if Comcast bought Sprint Nextel, AT&T would be buying Sprint Nextel........NOT GONNA HAPPEN. Period.
AT&T really is Comcast still, the whole "spin off" was nothing more than a name change burying the owners name under a two mile stack of subsidiaries and divisions.
rip you just killed this thread! THANK YOU after 6 pages it now has been clarified that comcast wont buy sprint.! time warner isnt part of comcast or cox by chance? if they were that would mean NO ONE would buy them? SPRINT WILL STAY SPRINT?
rip
03-07-2007, 08:19 AM
rip you just killed this thread! THANK YOU after 6 pages it now has been clarified that comcast wont buy sprint.! time warner isnt part of comcast or cox by chance? if they were that would mean NO ONE would buy them? SPRINT WILL STAY SPRINT?
Sorry...but all the 'Sprints getting bought" rumors are just that. Rumors that market speculators and analysts came up with because Sprints low net adds since the merger. They needed something to talk about over lunch. In reality Sprint is in the buying mode, not the selling mode.
mossimo278
03-07-2007, 09:34 AM
buying is good. They should buy Alltel and stay Sprint.
crash2manyx
03-07-2007, 09:38 AM
yeah, and move the my-circle thing to sprint, that would just be awesome
handsdown
03-07-2007, 10:29 AM
rip you just killed this thread! THANK YOU after 6 pages it now has been clarified that comcast wont buy sprint.! time warner isnt part of comcast or cox by chance? if they were that would mean NO ONE would buy them? SPRINT WILL STAY SPRINT?
i think comcast and timewarner merged. my timewarner cable bill changed to comcast a few months ago. so i think its somewhere along that line.
Wayne 1
03-07-2007, 12:23 PM
Thanks for the info rip! :)
ISI
03-07-2007, 01:16 PM
i think comcast and timewarner merged. my timewarner cable bill changed to comcast a few months ago. so i think its somewhere along that line.
Actually I think Comcast and Time Warner did some territory swapps....the did not merge. They traded your area for another area.
handsdown
03-07-2007, 01:24 PM
^thanks for the info. i wasn't too sure.
GrEeN gOBlIn
03-07-2007, 04:02 PM
rip my friend shamefulzero was thanking you for killing the thread. he hates this thread he wasnt upset you were killing it. but im with him here. i want sprint to stay sprint.
Wayne 1
03-07-2007, 05:59 PM
i want sprint to stay sprint.
So do I, Sprint should fend off the corporate raiders! :fingers:
rip
03-07-2007, 09:34 PM
rip my friend shamefulzero was thanking you for killing the thread. he hates this thread he wasnt upset you were killing it. but im with him here. i want sprint to stay sprint.
I didn't think anybody was mad. The AT&T/Comcast relationship is one most don't realize is there. Comcast was originally AT&T's cable services/ISP company. AT&T spun them off when they first contemplated selling out. But AT&T turned around and quietly bought back into Comacst by buying subsidiaries and divisions of Comcast. This is where Comcast came up with much of the funds for their own network buildout. AT&T is more like a very large silent investor in Comcast and less like an owner, but the government would not like it either way. Comcast buying Sprint Nextel would open a can of worms even the FCC/DOJ could not handle.
Dan
03-07-2007, 10:15 PM
I didn't think anybody was mad. The AT&T/Comcast relationship is one most don't realize is there. Comcast was originally AT&T's cable services/ISP company. AT&T spun them off when they first contemplated selling out. But AT&T turned around and quietly bought back into Comacst by buying subsidiaries and divisions of Comcast. This is where Comcast came up with much of the funds for their own network buildout. AT&T is more like a very large silent investor in Comcast and less like an owner, but the government would not like it either way. Comcast buying Sprint Nextel would open a can of worms even the FCC/DOJ could not handle.
Though it sounds like a big deal, i dont believe it really is. TWC owned a decent steak in comcast also, until the adelphia deal made that go away in a "tax free" transaction.
I honestly think that if Comcast wanted to make a run at Sprint, their would be some deal worked out where ATT would take some assets from the combined company in exhange for returning the stock, like happened with TWC and Comcast during the Adelphia deal.
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shamefulzero
03-08-2007, 12:27 AM
im glad its been clarified that comcast and ATT have a relationship, cuz now i wont buy comcast cable in my area. I HATE ATT theyd have to kill me to get another penny from me.
Dan
03-08-2007, 12:53 PM
im glad its been clarified that comcast and ATT have a relationship, cuz now i wont buy comcast cable in my area. I HATE ATT theyd have to kill me to get another penny from me.
I wouldn't assume that just because AT&T were the original owners of Comcast, that they have a very large ownership steak in it. Obviously, they do not control day to day operations or Comcast would have partnered with Cingular as opposed to Sprint for wireless phone offerings.
Somewhere in the SEC filings, AT&T would have to show that they owned X company that owns Y company that owns a XX% share in comcast. It's not really that hard to connect the dots!
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crash2manyx
03-13-2007, 11:09 AM
im glad its been clarified that comcast and ATT have a relationship, cuz now i wont buy comcast cable in my area. I HATE ATT theyd have to kill me to get another penny from me.
i take it u owe them money, lol
Goodgyrl
03-13-2007, 11:17 AM
Well AT&T and Cingular are together now so there's no saying that Comcast wont try and get Cingular.
crash2manyx
03-13-2007, 11:19 AM
pretty soon, there will be no cingular, just att, not sure how it happened, or why cingular aquired att wireless, but that's what it looks like
Goodgyrl
03-13-2007, 11:34 AM
it was a matter of time. Suncom was a part of AT&T wireless. Cingular brought them out. That's when I left. Now Cingualr and AT&T wireless are in talks.
mossimo278
03-13-2007, 12:20 PM
now they are in talks? Hasnt this already happend?
Goodgyrl
03-13-2007, 12:40 PM
I think it's like Sprint and nextel they're together but wont be together for a few years
Dan
03-13-2007, 02:29 PM
Here's the deal on Cingular...........
Cingular was a joint venture, but both "owners" are now the "new AT&T" so Cingular is owned by AT&T.
NASCAR is the reason that they are not pushing the Cingular name off already IMO. AT&T wants to keep a Cingular / AT&T car in NASCAR, but the deal with NEXTEL says that if Alltel or Cingular change their name, they can no longer sponsor a car. Cingular / AT&T is in negotiations with NASCAR and Sprint on keeping an AT&T car in the NEXTEL cup series.
Now then, back on topic............. If AT&T owned a controlling stake in Comcast, it would be found out. I'm sure AT&T owns a small stake in the company still, but not some secret majority that can control the actions of Comcast. If Comcast was controlled by AT&T, they would have partenered with Cingular, not sprint.
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crash2manyx
03-13-2007, 04:20 PM
Here's the deal on Cingular...........
Cingular was a joint venture, but both "owners" are now the "new AT&T" so Cingular is owned by AT&T.
NASCAR is the reason that they are not pushing the Cingular name off already IMO. AT&T wants to keep a Cingular / AT&T car in NASCAR, but the deal with NEXTEL says that if Alltel or Cingular change their name, they can no longer sponsor a car. Cingular / AT&T is in negotiations with NASCAR and Sprint on keeping an AT&T car in the NEXTEL cup series.
Now then, back on topic............. If AT&T owned a controlling stake in Comcast, it would be found out. I'm sure AT&T owns a small stake in the company still, but not some secret majority that can control the actions of Comcast. If Comcast was controlled by AT&T, they would have partenered with Cingular, not sprint.
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well said!!!
Goodgyrl
03-14-2007, 01:04 PM
not true. Not if they trying to be the big company. If AT&T puts money into all these companies and slowly start to buy them off then AT&T will own everything. So I could see how AT&T would try and control sprint then Cingular.
GrEeN gOBlIn
03-14-2007, 01:16 PM
Here's the deal on Cingular...........
Cingular was a joint venture, but both "owners" are now the "new AT&T" so Cingular is owned by AT&T.
NASCAR is the reason that they are not pushing the Cingular name off already IMO. AT&T wants to keep a Cingular / AT&T car in NASCAR, but the deal with NEXTEL says that if Alltel or Cingular change their name, they can no longer sponsor a car. Cingular / AT&T is in negotiations with NASCAR and Sprint on keeping an AT&T car in the NEXTEL cup series.
Now then, back on topic............. If AT&T owned a controlling stake in Comcast, it would be found out. I'm sure AT&T owns a small stake in the company still, but not some secret majority that can control the actions of Comcast. If Comcast was controlled by AT&T, they would have partenered with Cingular, not sprint.
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GREAT! can we put this thread to rest already?
Dan
03-14-2007, 03:35 PM
GREAT! can we put this thread to rest already?
All that would mean was that Comcast is likely not an AT&T controlled company, and therefore could be looking at sprint.
Merger rumours are just that, rumours, which seem to be bringing up the stock price on sprint and alltel now.
Just a couple weeks till sprint will have Q1 07 numbers, then we will see the rumours die off, or heat up.
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