Sanyo 8400 has a MAJOR bad issue...

[Fool4Fone]

...and I'm pissed. :irked:

I just gave up my beautiful 7400 for the 8400 because I just had to have EVDO. Ok, someone tell me just how the heck I'm supposed to tell the difference between TEXT MESSAGES and VOICE MESSAGES when I see my icon?

There is no "T" or "V" to designate what type of messages I am getting so I have to open the phone, search for the message, find out what type it is and then retreive it!

Every other Sanyo phone has had this feature. What the heck went wrong with the 8400?

[williams1132]

I would say this is truely an issue with my considerations of buying this phone..Im not sure on that, but I appreciate the info..

[ajblbv]

I agree on it being annoying, samsung shares a common message icon too.

[Brandon]

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Alot of newer phones don't have it anymore, they have the missed alerts menu to take place of that.

[Yay4Juggs]

a missed alerts screen should pop up and allow you to hit a softkey to bring up said alerts shouldnt it ?

[Brandon]

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It does.

[Fool4Fone]

a missed alerts screen should pop up and allow you to hit a softkey to bring up said alerts shouldnt it ?
It shouldn't have to be that hard.

Plus, that alert disappears and what if you want to check the message later, well, you forget what it was.

Look, you can do alot to go around the feature and make the phone work for you but a simple thing like adding a T or a V would have been an awesome feature that, by the way, EVERY OTHER DAMN SANYO HAS HAD!! (Even the stupid KATANA has it!!!)

i hate you sanyo and i was with your mother last night.

[Storino03]

The Fusic has different icons for voice SMS and text messaging.

[Yay4Juggs]

you can change it to where the message pops up if its a text just go to settings/messaging /notification/message + icon or icon only...change it to message and icon

[Fool4Fone]

you can change it to where the message pops up if its a text just go to settings/messaging /notification/message + icon or icon only...change it to message and icon
That doesnt fix it. You must work for Sanyo.

[Yay4Juggs]

no i dont work for sanyo i just know their user interface and software not to mention i have owned every single sanyo phone there is...

[Fool4Fone]

Then you should know that what you're proposing is an immediate check that will be useless once it goes away and you're sitting there with a blank envelope that tells you nothing.

You might be able to operate on a lack of information but I am a professional and I need, no I demand, my information!

[Fool4Fone]

The Fusic has different icons for voice SMS and text messaging.
You are fortunate that you didn't buy the Sanyo 8400. Way to go!

God, I'm mad.

[Yay4Juggs]

see thats the glory of it
it wont go away until you tell it to go away.

[Fool4Fone]

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Alot of newer phones don't have it anymore, they have the missed alerts menu to take place of that.
Just goes to show you that "new" doesn't necessarily mean "better".

Sanyo sucks.

[Yay4Juggs]

why not return it and get something else

[Brandon]

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why not return it and get something else

My thoughts exactly, your gonna have to go to the message center anyway so how hard is a an extra click.

[Fool4Fone]

see thats the glory of it
it wont go away until you tell it to go away.
The "T" and the "V" on the envelope didnt go away and you didn't have to click two or three extra buttons to get the info like you do now.

Sanyo reminds me of the Taliban.

[Yay4Juggs]

i have a nice 900m that ill trade ya for the 8400 but you'll have to throw in some cash too

[Fool4Fone]

why not return it and get something else
...because I like the damn phone but it could have easily been perfect.


Thanks for the trade offer but I'll just muddle through it all.

[reemusk]

this is not a "major bad issue". All modern Sanyo phones have removed this.

A simple way would be to check your text messages or voicemail before wondering why the arrow is there.

i don't think this is a "major issue". obviously you've never used an A900

[Fool4Fone]

this is not a "major bad issue". All modern Sanyo phones have removed this.

A simple way would be to check your text messages or voicemail before wondering why the arrow is there.

i don't think this is a "major issue". obviously you've never used an A900
Check out the Katana, Reemusk (if that's really your name.) Katana has it and is selling like hotcakes.

You sound like someone who has bought the phone and now trying to justify your purchase. Hmmmmm....interesting.

[reemusk]

Sanyo reminds me of the Taliban.

get serious. put that into perspective. they didn't include a T or a V in their envelope, and your relating them to murderous terrorists?

If you don't like it, return it.

b-b-b-but but but but but it'd be perfec -- stop it. if you don't like it, return it.

[Brandon]

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this is not a "major bad issue". All modern Sanyo phones have removed this.

A simple way would be to check your text messages or voicemail before wondering why the arrow is there.

i don't think this is a "major issue". obviously you've never used an A900

Obviously Not.

[Fool4Fone]

get serious. put that into perspective. they didn't include a T or a V in their envelope, and your relating them to murderous terrorists?

If you don't like it, return it.

b-b-b-but but but but but it'd be perfec -- stop it. if you don't like it, return it.
...and get what? You're ugly Sanyo 9000? Heh heh....no.

[reemusk]

...and get what? You're ugly Sanyo 9000? Heh heh....no.

Have you seen your 8400?


my phone was EOL'D when your 8400's brother was still dominating lockline.

[Quill]

Not that I see a flame war busting out here or anything, but, no need to take out how you feel about a phone on the other members here.

Please continue this discussion. Perhaps there is a solution. Or maybe we'll just keep ranting. Have fun.

[reemusk]

Not that I see a flame war busting out here or anything, but, no need to take out how you feel about a phone on the other members here.

Please continue this discussion. Perhaps there is a solution. Or maybe we'll just keep ranting. Have fun.


agreed :wavey:

[reemusk]

Check out the Katana, Reemusk (if that's really your name.) Katana has it and is selling like hotcakes.

You sound like someone who has bought the phone and now trying to justify your purchase. Hmmmmm....interesting.


No..I've owned mostly Sanyo's if you take a look at my signature. Never owned an 8400, just wondering why you are complaining so hard but not willing to get something else.

My mother owns a Katana, and she likes it.


Don't like it and don't want to change? O well!

[Fool4Fone]

Not that I see a flame war busting out here or anything, but, no need to take out how you feel about a phone on the other members here.

Please continue this discussion. Perhaps there is a solution. Or maybe we'll just keep ranting. Have fun.
Understood.

I've had the first analog Sanyo ever made and since then I've only bought Sanyos. (6 to date.) I just don't understand how they could take away a wonderful yet simple feature.

Again, why was it so hard to include the "T" and "V" in addition to the missed alerts as they did the Katana? I think it was a mistake that might be rectified some day. Who knows but I'm hoping and praying and writing my Congressman.

Thank you and good night. :wavey:

[reemusk]

Understood.

I've had the first analog Sanyo ever made and since then I've only bought Sanyos. (6 to date.) I just don't understand how they could take away a wonderful yet simple feature.

Again, why was it so hard to include the "T" and "V" in addition to the missed alerts as they did the Katana? I think it was a mistake that might be rectified some day. Who knows but I'm hoping and praying and writing my Congressman.

Thank you and good night. :wavey:



I'm not sure as to why they did it, I just know if a T or a V ruins a phone for you (which if obviously did, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion), then return it. Sprint and Sanyo don't owe you anything.

[Fool4Fone]

I'm not sure as to why they did it, I just know if a T or a V ruins a phone for you (which if obviously did, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion), then return it. Sprint and Sanyo don't owe you anything.
Oh, and that is where you are wrong.

Sprint and Sanyo owes every consumer their existance. We buy the phone that they make and if we didn't they wouldn't be around.

So, buy your toys and be happy with whatever you get even when you're not happy but I'll be voicing my opinions.

[reemusk]

Oh, and that is where you are wrong.

Sprint and Sanyo owes every consumer their existance. We buy the phone that they make and if we didn't they wouldn't be around.

So, buy your toys and be happy with whatever you get even when you're not happy but I'll be voicing my opinions.


They may owe their existance, but you've purchased the product. Just because it doesn't meet your standards doesn't mean they owe you anything. You getting a refund isn't "Sprint owes me". That's you getting your money back because you weren't happy.

You won't even do that, you'd rather complain and keep it.

Have you written to Sanyo? Doubt it.

Toy Value:

Faceplates:
9000? No.
8400? Yes

8400 wins.

Multiple Colors
9000? No.
8400? Yes.

8400 wins.

Toy value....8400 wins for 2 points!

[Brandon]

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this is not a "major bad issue". All modern Sanyo phones have removed this.

A simple way would be to check your text messages or voicemail before wondering why the arrow is there.

i don't think this is a "major issue". obviously you've never used an A900
Check out the Katana, Reemusk (if that's really your name.) Katana has it and is selling like hotcakes.

You sound like someone who has bought the phone and now trying to justify your purchase. Hmmmmm....interesting.

So are you saying ppl bought the katana because it has p v and t on the envelope? Yea...

[Fool4Fone]

So are you saying ppl bought the katana because it has p v and t on the envelope? Yea...


Of course.

[Fool4Fone]

They may owe their existance, but you've purchased the product. Just because it doesn't meet your standards doesn't mean they owe you anything. You getting a refund isn't "Sprint owes me". That's you getting your money back because you weren't happy.

You won't even do that, you'd rather complain and keep it.

Have you written to Sanyo? Doubt it.

Toy Value:

Faceplates:
9000? No.
8400? Yes

8400 wins.

Multiple Colors
9000? No.
8400? Yes.

8400 wins.

Toy value....8400 wins for 2 points!
Existence = everything. Futhermore I never actually said Sanyo owed me anything. That was your weird call.

Sanyo has been written. I'll post their reply if I get one.

You get 5 pts. just for continuing this rant after I ended it an hour ago! (Nicely I might add.) You're the toy!

[professor80]

My phone went to a complete white screen Saturday night, I had to take the battery out to get the phone to restart, and text messages were delayed two hours later, never seen that before on a Sanyo. I can't wait for the M1. They took some short cuts on the 8400. The ringer deosn't ever say call from and give the name, I really liked that feature.

[Brandon]

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So are you saying ppl bought the katana because it has p v and t on the envelope? Yea...


Of course.

Well why don't you be like those ppl and get the Katana and stop this crazy rant. Then you'll probably complain about something else.

[Brandon]

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My phone went to a complete white screen Saturday night, I had to take the battery out to get the phone to restart, and text messages were delayed two hours later, never seen that before on a Sanyo. I can't wait for the M1. They took some short cuts on the 8400. The ringer deosn't ever say call from and give the name, I really liked that feature.

Text delay is more of a network problem than a phone problem.

[professor80]

No, I just want an M1 - The 8400 kind of reminds me of the 3100

[Brandon]

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No, I just want an M1 - The 8400 kind of reminds me of the 3100

I'm also waiting on something to replace my old 9000.

[VibrantRedGT]

This thread is hilarious.

They cancelled the T, V, etc. feature and replaced it with an entire folder "Missed Alerts". You press the center key ("Ok") twice. Its not that hard so there is no need to be all dramatic about it. The 8400 isn't the first phone not to have it. The 5600 was the last time I saw those icons. I miss them too but pressing a button won't kill me. Take it back if you can't deal with it.

[Fool4Fone]

This thread is hilarious.

They cancelled the T, V, etc. feature and replaced it with an entire folder "Missed Alerts". You press the center key ("Ok") twice. Its not that hard so there is no need to be all dramatic about it. The 8400 isn't the first phone not to have it. The 5600 was the last time I saw those icons. I miss them too but pressing a button won't kill me. Take it back if you can't deal with it.
Thank you! You're quite the amazing one, aren't you?

Now we can all move on.

[Fool4Fone]

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Well why don't you be like those ppl and get the Katana and stop this crazy rant. Then you'll probably complain about something else.
Katana doesn't have EVDO. Read my first post then go play outside.

[aatm]

I don't see what the big deal is. Just press up to open up "messaging", unless it's different on the 8400. pressing up brings up the messaging menu, which shows all the different types of messages you can receive. as long as that "blank envelope" is there at the top of your phone, if you go to messaging, it'll show the message and the number unread. For example:

"Text (1)"
or
"Voicemail (2)"

Geez...not really something to pi$$ and moan about.

[Fool4Fone]

I don't see what the big deal is. Just press up to open up "messaging", unless it's different on the 8400. pressing up brings up the messaging menu, which shows all the different types of messages you can receive. as long as that "blank envelope" is there at the top of your phone, if you go to messaging, it'll show the message and the number unread. For example:

"Text (1)"
or
"Voicemail (2)"

Geez...not really something to pi$$ and moan about.
Oh great.

So, if I have a Voice Message come in, instead of just pushing the number 1 and going directly to my mailbox I have to open the phone, go to message center, look down the list, and finally get my voice mail that will probably be Sanyo letting me know how stupid they were for taking out the "T" and the "V" in the first place!

Sorry, but that's one message I won't be returning. Sanyo = Satan. Think about it.

[professor80]

I think some of us are just spoiled with the flag ships of MM5600 and the MM9000

[Brandon]

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Yea, this is also the case on the high end samsung's.

[Ced91071]

Sanyo phone models as recent as the Katana had the icon that would show a V for voicemail and/or a T for text messaging. If this is true, this blows MAJOR chunks...........................
No wonder half of the Sprint reps here in town now work for Cingular. The good reps too........................ :indiff: :indiff:

[reemusk]

Sanyo phone models as recent as the Katana had the icon that would show a V for voicemail and/or a T for text messaging. If this is true, this blows MAJOR chunks...........................
No wonder half of the Sprint reps here in town now work for Cingular. The good reps too........................ :indiff: :indiff:


i don't understand how a T or a V makes Sprint reps leave the company? :Popcorn2:

[VibrantRedGT]

I think some of us are just spoiled with the flag ships of MM5600 and the MM9000

Actually the 9000 does not have it either. Neither does the 7500.

[DrewSG3]

The 5600 had it. It was something I missed since the A900 shares the same icon.

It is a hassle, but not something I would cry about.

[SANYO OR LG]

Just goes to show you that "new" doesn't necessarily mean "better".

Sanyo sucks.
lol!!! buy a fusic and see how many problems you have

[SANYO OR LG]

...and get what? You're ugly Sanyo 9000? Heh heh....no.
lol!!!! get a bigger screen

[SANYO OR LG]

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I'm also waiting on something to replace my old 9000.
yeah me too and its not the 8400

[Deval]

:lol: not a major issue...I dont mind it...just dont hurt going to the messaging menu and looking at what says (1) next to it

[aatm]

Oh great.

So, if I have a Voice Message come in, instead of just pushing the number 1 and going directly to my mailbox I have to open the phone, go to message center, look down the list, and finally get my voice mail that will probably be Sanyo letting me know how stupid they were for taking out the "T" and the "V" in the first place!

Sorry, but that's one message I won't be returning. Sanyo = Satan. Think about it.

wow...are you serious? if so, that's unfortunate.

*shrug*

[krazyfiend]

a major issue on the 8400 is the camera picture light exposure problem, which could be considered a defect because of how many 8400 owners are reporting this issue, while a select few don't have it at all (so it seems)

this txt msg / voicemail visual alert , well ive never had a phone with this feature that the author of this thread thinks is a major issue when left out on the 8400

the vm4500/5500 didnt have it , and either did my 6000 or 6200 candybar/slimline sanyo's have it ...not really an issue to me

[Deval]

I claim that as user defect, or asking for too much.

the camera issue I can understand, but like I told tbaker, its really hard to recreate that kind of issue for a resolution.

[krazyfiend]

the camera issue I can understand, but like I told tbaker, its really hard to recreate that kind of issue for a resolution.

resolution seems to be, return it until u get an 8400 like RedVibratGT's that takes outdoor pictures in all sorts of bright direct /side/behind lighting situations

or return it for refund and step up to the M1 (if u are a sanyo fan and only stick with their product line) when it comes out hoping the 2.0mp camera is clean cut w/ no light exposure problems across the board

[Deval]

Yeah I hate to say it, but you gotta understand, you cant just take someone's word for it. Thats not how things work, and thats not how things would get fixed.

Certain bugs for phones can be fixed if the exact steps needed to recreate them are provided.

[Cnorwapo]

That is why I still hold on to my 9000....nothing out yet that has forced me to open my wallet.

[james2K]

the missed alerts menu was a great idea IMO that seems to have been mandated by SPRINT, not sanyo. Look at the newer samsungs (900-960) and the LG Fusic.

[Deval]

part of a 'standard' UI

[SANYO OR LG]

That is why I still hold on to my 9000....nothing out yet that has forced me to open my wallet.
SAME HERE I HAD THE FUSIC BUT NO GO

[Marlon_JB2]

That was one nice feature of the 7400...

[Brandon]

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part of a 'standard' UI

Its what verizon's should be, the same layout but with a different look on each phone.

[Deval]

I like the Sprint UI...its 'different' yet similar...very cool

[Brandon]

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I like the Sprint UI...its 'different' yet similar...very cool

Thats what i was tryna say but couldn't get the right words.

[NONAME]

the missed alerts menu was a great idea IMO that seems to have been mandated by SPRINT, not sanyo. Look at the newer samsungs (900-960) and the LG Fusic.I share the same feelings about the "missed alerts menu" as you do J2k :cool:

[tbakergobuck]

I made another thread on the 8400 white balance camera issue. :)

http://sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=114933

[jmax626]

My phone went to a complete white screen Saturday night, I had to take the battery out to get the phone to restart, and text messages were delayed two hours later, never seen that before on a Sanyo. I can't wait for the M1. They took some short cuts on the 8400. The ringer deosn't ever say call from and give the name, I really liked that feature.
The ringer does say call from if you set up the voice tag feature.

[Rose4uKY]

Ok my Sanyo 8300 I belive had the T and the V I know my 8200 did.. I can live without it I didn't realize this didn't have it.. I saw the missed alerts and knew it was somethig new but didn't really understand it at 1st cause I never had it. But on my 8200 and 8300 I forgot how I got it on the phone but I made up an extra folder for pages and when someone didn't leave me a voice mail and punched back in there number it would go to a separate folder and say please call so and so in a different folder then my text or voice mails did.. I forgot how I set that up now. Which I may not need that now since I have this missed alerts thing.. I need to play around with it and send myself a text a voice and a page.. I have missed alerts as a shortcut.
I love the 8400...
Rose

[Nate-dawg]

I actually own the Sanyo 8400, and I have to warn people that the title of this thread is a "MAJOR" exaggeration. :) People should not be scared away by this phone - it ROCKS!!!

What people need to know is that when you have a message, a notification screen comes up describing the message along with all the details you'd need, including who left a message and if it's voice/text, etc....

It's only after you read and dismiss this notification will you have to rely on the envelope icon.

So it's not a drawback after all, because at that point you already know specifically whether you got a voice message or text message, or a combination of both.

I almost bought another phone because of the originating post, which I feel is misleading.

[Marlon_JB2]

I actually own the Sanyo 8400, and I have to warn people that the title of this thread is a "MAJOR" exaggeration. :) People should not be scared away by this phone - it ROCKS!!!

What people need to know is that when you have a message, a notification screen comes up describing the message along with all the details you'd need, including who left a message and if it's voice/text, etc....

It's only after you read and dismiss this notification will you have to rely on the envelope icon.

So it's not a drawback after all, because at that point you already know specifically whether you got a voice message or text message, or a combination of both.

I almost bought another phone because of the originating post, which I feel is misleading.
This is exactly why I tell everyone to try out the phone themselves since we all have varying tastes.