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I asked why we didnt have alot of EVDO phones and I was told it was to be forwarded off on an answer. I did get my question answered today.
Basically it comes down to 3 factors
High Price of EVDO phones and plan options
Low Demand
They want to have an upgraded Network and 3g Services offered everywhere on network before Sprint expands that part of the market.
Wayne 1
08-08-2006, 12:35 PM
Tai:
Do you have any approximate dates for the new EVDO phones coming out such as the Sanyo 8400, 9100 and any others that will be introduced, more than likely?
Serifan
08-08-2006, 12:39 PM
I asked why we didnt have alot of EVDO phones and I was told it was to be forwarded off on an answer. I did get my question answered today.
Basically it comes down to 3 factors
High Price of EVDO phones and plan options
Low Demand
They want to have an upgraded Network and 3g Services offered everywhere on network before Sprint expands that part of the market.
...while I agree that demand often dictates supply, I think they can increase that demand by having more choices and marketing the service more/better.
channel125
08-08-2006, 12:51 PM
...while I agree that demand often dictates supply, I think they can increase that demand by having more choices and marketing the service more/better.
This is very true. All about Supply & Demand, and I think sprint is doing the right thing with this. EVDO is far from available everywhere. I live in an affiliate market, which doesn't have EVDO yet, actually they have it downtown, but I'm not going to drive downtown everytime I want to go online. I wish I knew how long it's going to be until they expand.
CJENA
08-08-2006, 12:53 PM
This is very true. All about Supply & Demand
Right, but how are you supposed to create demand if you don't have the supply? Spring really needs more EVDO phones. If a person doesn't have EVDO in their area, they can still use the 1xRTT network.
Tai
08-08-2006, 01:48 PM
This is very true. All about Supply & Demand, and I think sprint is doing the right thing with this. EVDO is far from available everywhere. I live in an affiliate market, which doesn't have EVDO yet, actually they have it downtown, but I'm not going to drive downtown everytime I want to go online. I wish I knew how long it's going to be until they expand.
CS can look at an area and if theres any towers going up they will see it within 3 months of the scehduled date
Tai
08-08-2006, 01:49 PM
Tai:
Do you have any approximate dates for the new EVDO phones coming out such as the Sanyo 8400, 9100 and any others that will be introduced, more than likely?
I heard whispers about released in Sept of newer device not sure which ones We just got the cheap A420 (stoner phone I love the name )
madsexy
08-08-2006, 02:19 PM
This is very true. All about Supply & Demand, and I think sprint is doing the right thing with this. EVDO is far from available everywhere. I live in an affiliate market, which doesn't have EVDO yet, actually they have it downtown, but I'm not going to drive downtown everytime I want to go online. I wish I knew how long it's going to be until they expand.
Hmmm... on the contrary... to generate more demand they should push now. This in turn will provide the $$$ for expansion. Lack of ubiquitous coverage has not stopped Verizon from successfully marketing V-Cast. I am sick and tired of their ads everywhere.
This is why, despite inferior coverage compared to Sprint, Verizon's V-Cast service is already being reviewed as being superior to Sprint's. I recently read a review where the writer said the two services were essentially the same, but somehow, in the end, he concluded V-Cast was better because it had more "appeal." Oh well.
Again, that goes to show you it's all in the marketing... Verizon's brainwashing machinery...
Jonathanlc2005
08-08-2006, 02:25 PM
actully buddy, that isnt true. there is a few reviews that will tell you verizons is below sprints by a moderate margin. as well as my own review. i personally believe its because of it being cellular and were PCS.
sprint needs advertising. bottom line!!!
Tai
08-08-2006, 02:44 PM
high amounts of advertising means higher costs
Serifan
08-08-2006, 03:08 PM
Hmmm... on the contrary... to generate more demand they should push now. This in turn will provide the $$$ for expansion. Lack of ubiquitous coverage has not stopped Verizon from successfully marketing V-Cast. I am sick and tired of their ads everywhere.
This is why, despite inferior coverage compared to Sprint, Verizon's V-Cast service is already being reviewed as being superior to Sprint's. I recently read a review where the writer said the two services were essentially the same, but somehow, in the end, he concluded V-Cast was better because it had more "appeal." Oh well.
Again, that goes to show you it's all in the marketing... Verizon's brainwashing machinery...
:headbang2...preach on.
madsexy
08-08-2006, 03:54 PM
actully buddy, that isnt true. there is a few reviews that will tell you verizons is below sprints by a moderate margin. as well as my own review. i personally believe its because of it being cellular and were PCS.
sprint needs advertising. bottom line!!!
What isn't true? Are you suggesting there are no reviews whatsoever proposing V-Cast is superior to Power Vision? You only have to run a Google search to find them.
If you go back and read my original post, I never said V-Cast was superior, on the contrary. I referred to the fact that despite Sprint's coverage being superior, there are reviews out there stating Verizon's service is better. I did this to illustrate how marketing can influence perception.
Without discounting the reviewer's abilities, I can see how seeing 20 V-Cast ads for each PowerVision ad shown on TV can have some sort of influence in this. If you are told something is better over and over, obviously, this can make you more susceptible to the message. This is also why millions of people have been "conditioned" to think Verizon has the best network.
But without further ado, here's a link to the review I have referred to. What should cause alarm is not whether he's right or not, but the fact that Sprint's marketing does little to change that perception or to capitalize on Power Vision's merits.
What isn't true? Are you suggesting there are no reviews whatsoever proposing V-Cast is superior to Power Vision? You only have to run a Google search to find them.
If you go back and read my original post, I never said V-Cast was superior, on the contrary. I referred to the fact that despite Sprint's coverage being superior, there are reviews out there stating Verizon's service is better. I did this to illustrate how marketing can influence perception.
Without discounting the reviewer's abilities, I can see how seeing 20 V-Cast ads for each PowerVision ad shown on TV can have some sort of influence in this. If you are told something is better over and over, obviously, this can make you more susceptible to the message. This is also why millions of people have been "conditioned" to think Verizon has the best network.
But without further ado, here's a link to the review I have referred to. What should cause alarm is not whether he's right or not, but the fact that Sprint's marketing does little to change that perception or to capitalize on Power Vision's merits.
Speaking of new PV phones, I got some nice info today that the 900p (for PLUS) is coming out next month. One of our techs knew exactly what the difference was between the current A900 and the "p" version, but of course, he's on vacation until Sunday. I'll post then what the difference is.
Gibsohnn
08-08-2006, 05:33 PM
Oh, and I have no pictures because it's only going to come in black and look the same. If you own an a900, merely get out your phone and look at it. That's what it will look like. LOL Sorry for the sarcasm, but someone is gonna post "this is useless without pics" and I don't have any because I could snap a shot of a current a900 and that's what it's supposed to look like. :)
Wayne 1
08-08-2006, 07:11 PM
Speaking of new PV phones, I got some nice info today that the 900p (for PLUS) is coming out next month. One of our techs knew exactly what the difference was between the current A900 and the "p" version, but of course, he's on vacation until Sunday. I'll post then what the difference is.
Thanks btrav13, that will be interesting. My hope is they'll include the higher capacity battery and a better speakerphone. IMO that would make a much better overall phone. :)
Gibsohnn
08-08-2006, 08:10 PM
The techs exact words were "I'm not sure, it's software related, you'll have to ask Jeremy when he gets back from vacation, he knows exactly what it is." Hope that helps.
Tai
08-09-2006, 07:41 AM
When I go in ill check with the warehouse to see whats coming out
cory1848
08-09-2006, 08:10 AM
I can see how seeing 20 V-Cast ads for each PowerVision ad shown on TV can have some sort of influence in this. If you are told something is better over and over, obviously, this can make you more susceptible to the message. This is also why millions of people have been "conditioned" to think Verizon has the best network.
Thats why I went with Geico....When is was time to get new auto insurance, what popped into my head? That stupid little lizard, turned out they actually practice what they preach and its the best deal I have found yet, unlike some cell phone companies that are out there...
Gibsohnn
08-09-2006, 08:36 AM
When I go in ill check with the warehouse to see whats coming out
They found this out through the software that's available to technicians for software updates. Deval may be able to see it. Not sure you guys will have info in the warehouse yet, but give it a shot. I'd be curious to know for sure myself.
CJENA
08-09-2006, 08:42 AM
Will they be able to update regular Blades with this new software to support the Sprint themes?
Gibsohnn
08-09-2006, 08:43 AM
Will they be able to update regular Blades with this new software to support the Sprint themes?
Not looking like it. He put that software on a regular blade and it messed it up bad. Some of the menu options were blank screens when you went into them.
CJENA
08-09-2006, 08:44 AM
Not looking like it. He put that software on a regular blade and it messed it up bad. Some of the menu options were blank screens when you went into them.
Dang. Not that I would probably use the themes...but it would be a nice option to have if I wanted to use them.
madsexy
08-09-2006, 11:07 AM
Thats why I went with Geico....When is was time to get new auto insurance, what popped into my head? That stupid little lizard, turned out they actually practice what they preach and its the best deal I have found yet, unlike some cell phone companies that are out there...
Exactly, that's the point... in your case, seeing so many Geico ads predisposed you to think that's the best deal. I hope you paid attention to your deductible amounts though, LOL... the problem with Geico seems to be lower premiums but higher deductibles...
A coworker of mine found out the hard way... I believe $1,000.00 out of pocket before Geico would cover anything!!!
cory1848
08-09-2006, 11:12 AM
Exactly, that's the point... in your case, seeing so many Geico ads predisposed you to think that's the best deal. I hope you paid attention to your deductible amounts though, LOL... the problem with Geico seems to be lower premiums but higher deductibles...
A coworker of mine found out the hard way... I believe $1,000.00 out of pocket before Geico would cover anything!!!
You get to choose your deductibles...I actually was able to get lower deductibles through Geico than my previous agent. In my case it was the best deal. I only knew about it through advertising. Point being, more advertising may cost more, but in the long run, it will profit you more...after all, if people dont know your services are out there....how will they become a customer?
madsexy
08-09-2006, 08:04 PM
You get to choose your deductibles...I actually was able to get lower deductibles through Geico than my previous agent. In my case it was the best deal. I only knew about it through advertising. Point being, more advertising may cost more, but in the long run, it will profit you more...after all, if people dont know your services are out there....how will they become a customer?
Oh, wow... then my coworker must be an idiot because he said he didn't know about his deductible... oooops... another case of not reading their contract!
Anyway, this proves two points: advertising is as effective as word of mouth... though in my case, the bad word of mouth was unjustified...
Now, if only someone at Sprint would get a clue...
QueenzYankee
08-09-2006, 08:09 PM
The new 900 is going to have a memory card, and fix all the bugs with the current one. I couldn't tell you what the other additional/if any features would be..
autoprime
08-09-2006, 08:23 PM
The new 900 is going to have a memory card, and fix all the bugs with the current one. I couldn't tell you what the other additional/if any features would be..
why create false rumors? it's too late in the game for that.
now do any techs have access to the A900p/m firmware?? id love to try flashing my a900 with the new firmware... regardless if it messes it up or not. I have backup files/firmware/phones incase that happens.
PM me if needed :)
Wayne 1
08-09-2006, 08:23 PM
The new 900 is going to have a memory card, and fix all the bugs with the current one. I couldn't tell you what the other additional/if any features would be..
Nothing on the battery? :)
kewlmascwisguy
08-09-2006, 08:30 PM
We will get there guys!!!!
QueenzYankee
08-11-2006, 09:35 AM
http://www.pcsintel.com/content/view/1315/32/
I'm not creating any rumors, wait till the phone comes out then I'll except your apology
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