How do I create a streaming video site to stream video content?

[JohnnyC]

Ok, so I have always wanted to created a website where I could put up videos and movies and such for people to watch..or even users of this forum to watch...SleekTunic is kinda doing something similar. However I already have tons of content. Not to mention, I have learned sooo freakin much from this great site Id love to give back.

Now here is the deal. I already have a personal website hosted by a hosting company with full professional webservers and such. Im allotted unlimited space and a TON of bandwidth.

I know how to set up the files to play on the phones. I know that the line has to begin with rtsp...so like rtsp://www.mysite.com/actualfile.3gp

I can do that...files are encoded correctly and all that...but it gives me a video playback error...however it does try to launch the media player. Now I know you have to set the MIME types for the server and all that...but maybe I set the wrong ones..but I did set them...I feel I am almost there but not quite.

I am not running this off a home server as mentioned..so I can't use darwin or all that jazz...and these professional servers I am hosted on do support streaming so that cannot be it.... so any suggestions?? I already have games and apps Ive collected successfully hosted in my private portion of the site as well as ringers and wallpaper..so everything else works.

If I can get this working..Id like to open a portion of the site for people from this forum to use and enjoy also so any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance

JC

[JohnnyC]

Ive gotten some inquiries about this idea however no one seems to have the info to allow me to do it. Like I said I would love to do this and a few of you have PM'd me about wanting the link which I will be happy to provide...but I need to know how to make the streaming work. Anyone...help lol??

[JSMZ]

Your best bet would probably be to PM SleekTunic about it. That site is set up well, I watched a three hour movie and it only buffered five times. :Popcorn2:

[iSleek]

:)
to stream, you need a server, or a program that will set up a small server for you so that your videos are available as a Real Time Streaming Protocol (rtsp://)..
the reason why i'm able to stream so easy is because i'm running a server, with Quicktime Streaming Server embedded on it..
check it out
www.geocities.com/sleektunic (updated today, by the way :P)
not really sure how to get streaming working on windows, but you might wanna look at the "ORB thread".. i'm sure people will help you. (i'm running OS X on my computer)

edit: sorry i didnt read the whole post before.. but when you try from your phone, what RTSP error do you get????? Depending on the error number, it can be different things.. like.. it can time out, which means that there's something wrong with your connection (could be firewalls).. could be "404" which is that the link doesn't point to the right file..
i'll try to help you.. :)

[JohnnyC]

:)
to stream, you need a server, or a program that will set up a small server for you so that your videos are available as a Real Time Streaming Protocol (rtsp://)..
the reason why i'm able to stream so easy is because i'm running a server, with Quicktime Streaming Server embedded on it..
check it out
www.geocities.com/sleektunic (updated today, by the way :P)
not really sure how to get streaming working on windows, but you might wanna look at the "ORB thread".. i'm sure people will help you. (i'm running OS X on my computer)

edit: sorry i didnt read the whole post before.. but when you try from your phone, what RTSP error do you get????? Depending on the error number, it can be different things.. like.. it can time out, which means that there's something wrong with your connection (could be firewalls).. could be "404" which is that the link doesn't point to the right file..
i'll try to help you.. :)
Thanks for trying to help. I will try the link tomorrow to see what error it produced. Things got hectic today (tornado) decided to blow up outta nowhere.

I am not hosting off my windows based computer, my site is hosted with a hosting company that I purchase a package from. Its a linux server and does have streaming support and runs cpanel. I don't know if this is going to change things.

Like I said by tomorrow evening Ill give what it returns to you. Lol and don't worry I have ALREADY checked out your site and watched some south park.......great job on the encoding...very high quality...VERY little buffering..keep up the good work on your end...its appreciated...just something about hearing cartman belting from my phone!!!

[JSMZ]

I watched a three hour movie and it only buffered five times.

whoops I was refering to this site :p http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1069589#post1069589

But the one with southpark is very good also !

[JohnnyC]

:)
to stream, you need a server, or a program that will set up a small server for you so that your videos are available as a Real Time Streaming Protocol (rtsp://)..
the reason why i'm able to stream so easy is because i'm running a server, with Quicktime Streaming Server embedded on it..
check it out
www.geocities.com/sleektunic (updated today, by the way :P)
not really sure how to get streaming working on windows, but you might wanna look at the "ORB thread".. i'm sure people will help you. (i'm running OS X on my computer)

edit: sorry i didnt read the whole post before.. but when you try from your phone, what RTSP error do you get????? Depending on the error number, it can be different things.. like.. it can time out, which means that there's something wrong with your connection (could be firewalls).. could be "404" which is that the link doesn't point to the right file..
i'll try to help you.. :)
OK... I uploaded a small test video. I encoded it using quicktime pro...optimized it for streaming and all that. The error I get is

RTSP Error 408:
Server timed out. The clip you requested was not returned in a timely manner. Please try again.


Now remember I have purchased a hosting package and its on a linux server....not my home computer...so yeah. Hope you can help!!!

[allthatinny]

its 2 seperate server one is the streaming server, the other is a normal webserver, like sleek told he used a streaming server i dunno what OS he got but am in win xp x64 and i used something called Darwin, it was designed by quicktime and optimize for quicktime 3gp, they call it hint (i dont even know why) but when i get time (which is hell for me right now) i will create a guide for windows user as it is hell for to setup for window users

[JohnnyC]

its 2 seperate server one is the streaming server, the other is a normal webserver, like sleek told he used a streaming server i dunno what OS he got but am in win xp x64 and i used something called Darwin, it was designed by quicktime and optimize for quicktime 3gp, they call it hint (i dont even know why) but when i get time (which is hell for me right now) i will create a guide for windows user as it is hell for to setup for window users
Thanks for the info. However as I said...im not using windows..or my home computer. I am using the hosting package I have for my regular website. Its a linux server running cpanel and does support streaming audio and video...so it does have streaming installed on the server.

[allthatinny]

no the streaming server is seperate from the hosting server, so in other words its 2 servers working together to act as one.

[iSleek]

well he's saying that his host allows him to stream music/video, which is what my server does..
now, about the 408 error, it seems like there's a connection issue between you and the server, that's why it's not being returned in a timely fashion..
how am i so sure? well, what i did to try it out on my server, is turned the firewall off, then streamed: fine. turned it on, streamed: error 408..
also, when i tried before i was running the server, i had Darwin Streaming Server, and it would time out as well, until I gave up trying.......
have you tried streaming it from your computer?? (on quicktime or real player)
try that, and see what happens.. you might have to contact the host of your server and tell them that their 'stream' feature is not really working :)
remember: no computer problem is impossible to fix ;) so stop thinking too hard :P

let me know if u need more help after u try those few steps.

[JohnnyC]

well he's saying that his host allows him to stream music/video, which is what my server does..
now, about the 408 error, it seems like there's a connection issue between you and the server, that's why it's not being returned in a timely fashion..
how am i so sure? well, what i did to try it out on my server, is turned the firewall off, then streamed: fine. turned it on, streamed: error 408..
also, when i tried before i was running the server, i had Darwin Streaming Server, and it would time out as well, until I gave up trying.......
have you tried streaming it from your computer?? (on quicktime or real player)
try that, and see what happens.. you might have to contact the host of your server and tell them that their 'stream' feature is not really working :)
remember: no computer problem is impossible to fix ;) so stop thinking too hard :P

let me know if u need more help after u try those few steps.
Thanks for the help...Ill give this a shot. I AM beginning to believe that maybe the hosting company's streaming ability isn't working like it should. The only other option I can think of is I have the MIME type set wrong...but I have it at video/3gpp and the extension associated of .3gp...which should be correct according to every list. Ill see what happens but thanks again for the imput thus far...gah...im sooooo close!! lol

[iSleek]

but I have it at video/3gpp and the extension associated of .3gp


1) how did you get ahold of those settings? i thought only admins were able to change them within a server.. :S

2) try adding video/3gp, and video/3g2 as well, but i don't think it's the mime settings at all, it's worth a shot anyway..

3) have u tried streaming from your own computer rather than your phone yet?

and yeah, i would most definitely contact the provider and have them run a test.. to make sure it works the way they say it does..

[JohnnyC]

1) how did you get ahold of those settings? i thought only admins were able to change them within a server.. :S

2) try adding video/3gp, and video/3g2 as well, but i don't think it's the mime settings at all, it's worth a shot anyway..

3) have u tried streaming from your own computer rather than your phone yet?

and yeah, i would most definitely contact the provider and have them run a test.. to make sure it works the way they say it does..
I researched what the settings should be. In Cpanel you have the option to add additional MIME types in addition to the default ones. The hosting package I have utilizes Cpanel and allows access to that.

I will try the additional MIME types you recommended. I actually did not try them in that particular format.

I did try the streaming last night from my computer. It also did not work, so its def. a server related issue.

I am contacting them today about this.

[iSleek]

sweet. best of luck.